> > However, I have run Windows NT 4.0 on both DEC Alpha systems, and on an
> > IBM RS/6000 box** .
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You are so weird.
>
> > (** I'm probably one of the .0001% of people who has seen
> a Windows NT
> > desktop on a PowerPC system)
>
> (but then so am I ;)
Did you see it running on an Apple Common Hardware Reference Platform (CHRP) box, or an IBM one? I was really looking forward to being able to run my Mac OS and IBM's OS/2 on future Macs back in 1995! That's almost 10 years ago now! Best, David Greelish, classiccomputing.com
Hello everybody,
as there were a few posts about HP Convex multiprocessor computers on the
list last week, I thought I'd jump in and ask a few questions for the job
I'm currently doing a few hours a week.
The University of Erlangen (Northern Bavaria) has a collection of computing
equipment and the like, which is run by a former boss of the regional
computing centre. When I showed up there at the beginning of my Electrical
Engineering studies and had a talk with him, he offered me a student job -
which I subsequently accepted.
A few months ago we got a Convex SPP-1600 which was decommissioned by the
computing center due to a hardware fault (rumour: Bad PSU in one cabinet).
This is a 3-cabinet unit and we would like to show part of it as an exhibit
- since the entire computer is too big to fit in our showroom, we would like
to set up only one unit and put the remaining two into storage.
The question now is: Could this sucker be reconfigured in a way which would
allow the separated unit (obviously one with a sound PSU...) to actually
operate, using the original HP frontend machine? I understand the memory
interconnects between the processors are fairly complex so I fear it's not
just a matter of "un-plug and play"...
We haven't found any documentation about such reconfiguration jobs and we
think it might not even been handed out to customers. Calling HP Field
Service is obviously out of question (obsolete machine, constrained budget),
so any information about this is greatly appreciated.
Yours sincerely
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> Are we really "doomed" to re-invent the vacuum tube? ;)
My dad told me that he designed special vacuum tubes for the Soviet
Venus missions, which were special tubes made of ceramics that could
work at 500 deg C. Those spacecraft were able to last several hours
on Venus before giving up the ghost. No semiconductor can work at
500 deg C.
MS
Greetings:
Please view our auction listing for a Diablo Series 30 disk drive:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5103296988
This drive was part of a Data General Nova configuration; this model was
also commonly used on Datapoint (2200) systems and many other
minicomputers. The Diablo I/O bus was also used by plug-compatible
drive makers.
Included is a complete set of manuals on CD-ROM in PDF format.
Funds are badly needed and any interest in this drive is much appreciated.
Regards,
Michael Grigoni
Cybertheque Museum
msg(a)REMOVETHIScybertheque.org
Never owned one, but couldn't resist. Complete Atari 520 ST, with floppy
drive and power supplies. Any ACTIVE resources out there for these? I
wouldn't mind upgrading the TOS, memory or putting together a hard disk
interface. It has a video out port, and a composite NTSC out too.
Thanks,
Kelly
David V. Corbin <dvcorbin(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> If a "sufficiently advanced technogoloy is indistinguishable from magic" and
> many people that magic once existed on earth, is it not possible that the
> older civilizations were actually more advanced than ours?????
That's what Erich von Daniken, Zecharia Sitchin, Michael Cremo, David
Hatcher Childress and me have been saying for a long time.
MS
Actually, I guess what I really need is one of those 14 slot double
high BA23 rack mount chassis that DEC used on big MicroVAX systems.
It probably wasn't called a BA23, but it was effectively two BA23s
stacked up, with two power supplies, a double backplane and room for
four 5 1/4" drives.
Just in case somebody happens to have one lying around that they
don't want :-)
Bob
I am resubscribing to the list after about 2 years absence due to the # of
posts, the DEC and mini predominance, and the time I was spending
going thru the posts. I had also forgotten the access to info and the humor
and off-beat perspectives of many of the members.
The final thrust was the post by Tony Duell which I am still giggling about.
> And FWIW, according to the current UK educational standards I don't know
> how to use a computer (!)...
> -tony
So I'm back unless Jay rejects me. And I imagine some members will not
welcome the crazy Canuck. Too bad Ward (Mr. TRS-80) still hasn't relented.
(I hear a collective groan from some members)
Lawrence
Hi all,
its been a while since I have had a decent find of some good machines,
but anyway yesterday I got given two personal IRISes.
One seems to be dead, as it doesn't seem to pass the diagnostics, the
other well it will boot, but the os is hosed on one of the disks, and
refuses to boot into single user mode.
The other disk which has a realy old version of IRIX (3.3.1) is at the
moment attempting to boot, I have got the UNIX copywrite boiler plate,
followed by the version of IRIX it's trying to boot, but nothing
else..
But it seems to be going through a file system check, as the drive
light is pretty much on solid (well its pulsing) , but this has been
going on for a few hours. And as I have no idea how long fsck would
take on one of these older machines I plan to leave it running for a
while to see if it will get anywhere.
The other cool things I got with this machine, are manuals galore
(Including the Personal Iris Owner's Guide). And one of the
installation tapes. (But no tape drive)
Does anyone know where one can source the older versions of IRIX for
these machines, be it cd or tape images? I know this machine could run
IRIX 5.3 which one could get off ebay, but as this machine only has 16
meg of ram, I would prefer to run one of the older versions of IRIX on
it, be it 3.x.x or 4.x.x as I haven't ever realy played round with
these older versions of UNIX before.
Benjamin
--
one you lock the target
two you bait the line
three you slowly spread the net
and four you catch the man
Front 242 Headhunter
Greetings,
About a year ago, amongst a bunch of stuff from a university, I picked
up three SGI Personal Iris systems. They didn't all have hard drives
and I think one of the keyboards is dodgy so my plan was to sell one on
ebay (which I did) and get a working system out of the last two.
This has not happened and I don't forsee it happening in the near
future, plus I need the space...
I did take a few pictures (just after i got them) for my site and they
can be found at http://popcorn.cx/computers/sgi/iris/
What there is:
- Two SGI Personal Iris units, '4D/20 ENTRY' configuration
(but I'm not sure if they are still that configuration)
- Two 21" monitors (see pictures)
- Two keyboards
- One mouse (maybe two but definitely only one of the special
red/blue mouse pads for the early optical mice)
- At least one video cable per monitor
- Various Irix administration and programming manuals (see the
pictures for titles)
The cost:
Free.
The catch:
You have to pick it all up from Glen Waverley, Melbourne, Australia.
Also since they came from a student computer lab where they booted off
the network they will almost definitely need some degree of operating
system reinstall.
I'll give it a week or two but after that I'll try and find a computer
recycling place that will take them, otherwise it is off to the tip
(rubbish tip that is)...
Stephen
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Hi,
I have a couple of the MIT Radiation Laboratory electronics books that
were published in the late 1940s and I'd like to get the rest of them. Does
anyone have any of them that they're willing to part with?
Joe
Those of you on cbm-hackers will have already seen this message. Some
preamble:
Commodore, just yesterday (see www.commodoreworld.com) was reintroduced
by trademark holder Tulip as an electronics subsidiary. Most of their
current and envisioned product line is fairly unimpressive me-too products
including an iPod/iTunes ripoff and they're actually trying to resell the
old Epyx Commodore 64 titles to which they have acquired the rights.
One thing that has not endeared Tulip to the Commodore community was an
attempt to grind down on trademark enforcement. First it was the
Commodore name and logo, and then the system ROMs, and there is also some
argument over the IP of the 64 itself. Apparently a collabourator called
Ironstone is developing a new 64 of their own, separate from the C-1 being
created by Jeri Ellsworth, which is nearing completion. There is worry that
Ironstone/Tulip will clamp down on new hardware development as a result.
What appears below is a note about the new policies by Ruud Baltissen, who
was one of the speakers at Commodore's "relaunch" yesterday and a long
time member of the Commodore community who was asked to speak at their
launch likely as an attempt to bridge the (at the moment) contentious gulf
between the classic community and the new corporate environment.
Anyone have any comments? This seems like the C64 community is going to get
stomped on. (None of this affects the Amiga, AFAIK, which is not owned
by Tulip.)
----- Forwarded message from Baltissen, GJPAA -----
From: "Baltissen, GJPAA (Ruud)" <-->
To: "'cbm-hackers@..'"
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:29:19 +0200
Subject: CommodoreWorld
Hallo allemaal,
As some of you already know, yesterday the new Commodore presented itself to
the world. I was invited as well to speak to the community as one of the
users. I felt awfull when on stage :(
Most important thing: I have spoken with the top of Tulip and Commodore,
four men. One thing we have discussed are the sites like FUNET and ARNOLD,
sites that archive ROMs and games. Regarding the games, utilities and other
non-system-ROMs they were clear: they considered that as there legal
property and as they wanted to make money with it, they would protect these
rights. And with reason, see later.
Personal point of view: I understand completely and accept it. (But I cannot
say I like it).
The system-ROMs are another matter. They realise that the C= community is as
it is nowadays, thanks to you guys and the information that is available
worldwide. Three of the four agree that there has to be made an arrangement
or whatever where both parties, Commodore and we developers, could live
with. I spoke with the fourth guy, one of the original Tulip-guys and merely
money orientated, and showed him things the community had developed on their
own the last ten years: Retro Replay, X1541, IDE64, 64HDD and.... Marko's
CD. He was impressed and would think things over. But don't blame him as a
person, he is a nice guy IMHO, but one that has to run a bussines.
A small problem is that they want to sell or include an emulator with one of
their products. But they realise that the community as it is now probably is
not waiting for their emulator as there are some very good ones available
for free. With this emulator they have a reason to forbid publishing
systemROMs as wel but.....
I spoke with Darren Melbourne, the man behind Ironstone, as well. Ironstone
is responsible for the C64-joystick C= will start to sell around
october/november. I, of course, asked him about the hardware.
The bad news: it will a single chip ASIC. I only forgot to ask him if the
ROM with OS and games were inside the ASIC or apart.
The good news: I know about who is behind the development of this C64 and
therefor we can expect quite some suprises:
- The new C64 will have at least 265 colours
- It will have higher resolutions
- It will have two SID's onboard
- The ASIC runs on 27 MHz. I hardly can imagine it needs 27 cycles to
emulate one of the original C64.
- I asked Darren if there are plans to produce a big C64 based on this
print. So he revealed that, although it resembles a joystick, all
connections of the normal ports are available in the form of pads. So one
could solder his own expansionport, userport or whatever to this stick.
- Regarding the extra features: they want to publish the memorymap and other
technical details so programmers are able to develop new games etc. for this
new C64.
The disclaimer: The above info is given by me as it was told me. I'm only
human and I could have understood some things wrong. Etc., etc., etc.
About the person: Darren doesn't mind to tell me who it is but the person
self does because of a personal reason.
This C64-joystick is the reason they want to protect their legal rights
about the games. But they also want to stimulate the old community to
develop programs for this new C64, the community that has thrived on the
availability of ROMs and other information. And you won't be making friends
by taking away that where those friends are thriving on :)
Another point is the makers of hardware like Maurice Randall but also people
like Markus Brenner and the Czechs who produce the IDE64. Particulary those
who produce hardware that is to be connected to the userport or
expansionport. I didn't realise it but these ports are intellectual
properties of Commodore as well. So actually anyone building hardware for
these ports has to pay C= a fee as well.
Regarding Maurice, he bought the stuff from CMD and Tulip/Commodore doesn't
know what agreement CMD had with the original C=.
Regarding others: three of the four agreed that as long as no big money is
involved, they leave the situation as it is.
I mentioned the above in my speach and the fourth guy told me he started to
realise that actions against these people would loose them a lot of sympathy
of the old community as well.
The fact is: Commodore/Tulip thrives on the fact that the name Commodore is
know worlwide and on the sympathy created (merely) by the C64. So they want
to avoid any action that will loose this precious sympathy. But they have a
bussiness to run so some things are unavoidable.
So:
- sites publishing games and related software owned by Commodore have to
remove it.
- sites publishing kernals/systemROMs are tolerated for the moment [1].
- producers of hardware are tolerated as long as there is not really big
money involved for the moment [1].
Rereading the above I may sound a bit pro-Tulip but it is a fact that they
have the law on their side. Yesterday I used this example: imagine you
inherit a fruitgarden with apples and pears, which has been left alone for
ten years. Because nobody cared, the neighbouhood got used to pick their own
fruit every autumn.
You as the new owner, are only interested in the apples as the pears have no
real commercial value for you. So you can leave them hanging to rot or....
tell the neighbourhood generously to help themself with the pears as you
don't have a really need for them for the moment [1].
As you have the law on your side, most people will accept the situation. But
what are you going to do with people that still pick (thus steal) your
apples as well?
[1] notice the "for the moment". Lets face it, things can change in the
future. But I have been there and I left with a good feeling.
And now you can shoot.....
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Not sure if this has already been posted or not, there is what looks to be
an awesome collection of older data books, manuals etc. for auction on
E-Bay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6907274702&sspagename=STK
%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I emailed the person selling them, he estimates them at 1000lbs. They are
for local pickup only (NJ area).
-Neil
hello,
you have 10 iie's with cards and software are you
willing to sell some? I need the courvs 74mb thing
and the "transporter". PLease let me know.
THanks So Much,
JIm j.
L@@K RARE MINIVAC 601, 1961 COMPUTER, UNIVAC, EXC L@@K
wow... some one shure choked this down for 600+ bucks.. silly me I thought they were $300 high!
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
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5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
I recently acquired a Commodore 75BM13 monitor. Its' signal-in port is
a female 6-pin Din like the C64 serial port. It was manufactured in 1986.
The 1902 (non-A) also had a 6-pin port and a cable with an 8-pin on the
computer end but I tend to doubt this was a low-cost alternative.
The M13 part of the model # undoubtably stands for monochrome 13".
I've been unable to find any info on it other than a few oblique references
in the CBM newsgroup and a Commodore monitor list with no specs and a
question mark opposite a similar model 76BM13. Anyone know what this
model might have been used with ?
When looking thru my cable stash I came across a cable with the same
pin-out on both ends and also "monitor" printed on one end and "computer"
on the other end. It didn't come with the monitor and I'm curious what it
may be for. Anyone recognize it ?
Thank you. I'm no longer on the list but browse it occasionally when I have time.
Lawrence
I'm auctioning some excess (duplicate) DEC Technical
Journals and a few duplicate DEC manuals:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&
userid=dampingwire&sort=2&rows=100&since=-1&rd=1
That will probably wrap horribly, so just
search for seller dampingwire.
The ones that might interest this list are
- the "VAX 8600"
- the "MicroVAX II"
and
- the "Internet and Performance".
That last one has an article by Max Burnett
and Bob Supnik that covers computer preservation
(PDPs etc) and emulation (SIMH).
Antonio
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Hey, all:
Any good places to visit in New York City?... and I should be clear that
I'm asking regarding classic-computing kinds of places, rather than MOMA
or Shea Stadium or the hellish Disneyesque nightmare that Times Square has
become. :)
-O.-
(who knows I'll be visiting at least two of those in the next
week or so, but that's strictly a coincidence)
I just found out about this list and thought I'd mention that I've just
listed a Casio CFX-40 scientific calculator watch (circa 1985) on ebay
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4906266445).
I bought my original CFX-40 back when they were originally sold, and
started getting paranoid that it was going to die, so I bought some
spares from a guy who had a few of them. Well, my original watch is
still going strong, so I decided to unload one of the spares on ebay.
I love this watch! My wife once joked that if anything ever happened to
my CFX-40, she was worried that I'd off myself! Seriously, I told her
after getting the spares that she never had to worry about getting me a
Rolex or anything, because this is the only watch I would ever need, or
want. When the year 2000 rolled around I was a bit concerned that it
wouldn't properly deal with the calendar issues, but it never had any
problem with it. Those Japanese engineers really know their stuff.
I'm a programmer, and since this is the classic computer list, I thought
I'd mention that my first computer was a Compucolor II, an 8080-based
system with a color screen and built-in floppy drive and a whopping
32K(!) of memory. I think I kept it running for 9 months once without
it blowing up. It was great -- The thing normally died fairly
routinely, but I remember sitting at it one day and my mom came into the
room (I was in college) and I said something about how great it was that
the computer seemed to be getting more reliable. The VERY NEXT MORNING
I turned it on and there was a loud SNAP! and smoke came out of it.
There was no local repair center so I had to take it 180 miles to Kansas
City for service.
Any other Compucolor veterans out there?
-Tom
I happen to like Disney World.
Anyway, re: New York. There used to be a great store downtown called Computer
Bookworks, but I think it's gone now.
There is the famous J&R Music and Computer World, which is no Fry's, but is
still a fun and large store to wander around.
Across the river are the Stevens Institute of Technology (in Hoboken) and the
New Jersey Institute of Technology (in Newark.) Both are easily reached by
train from Manhattan.
If you're interested in the history of PDAs/handheld computers, then you're
welcome to contact me -- been working hard on building a nice collection.
As for baseball, I highly recommend Yankee Stadium, not Shea! I am, however, a
lifelong Yankees fan. :)
Evan
> At 06:16 PM 6/18/04 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey, all:
> >
> >Any good places to visit in New York City?... and I should be clear that
> >I'm asking regarding classic-computing kinds of places, rather than MOMA
> >or Shea Stadium
>
>
> >or the hellish Disneyesque nightmare that Times Square has
> >become. :)
>
> Sheesh, be glad that you don't live here in central Florida, home of
> Dismal World!
>
> Joe
>
>
At least Orlando has Universal Studios, you can skip Disneyland and head
there.
How about an all-singing, all-dancing super Commodore emulator? Emulates
PET, C16, VIC20, C64, Plus4, C128, Amiga 500/1000/2000, all relevant
cartridge and expansion slots, internal IDE hard drive to store program, and
disk/tape images.
>From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)floodgap.com>
>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: The Future of Commodore (fwd from cbm-hackers)
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:01:08 -0700 (PDT)
>I spoke with Darren Melbourne, the man behind Ironstone, as well. Ironstone
>is responsible for the C64-joystick C= will start to sell around
>october/november. I, of course, asked him about the hardware.
>The bad news: it will a single chip ASIC. I only forgot to ask him if the
>ROM with OS and games were inside the ASIC or apart.
>The good news: I know about who is behind the development of this C64 and
>therefor we can expect quite some suprises:
>- The new C64 will have at least 265 colours
>- It will have higher resolutions
>- It will have two SID's onboard
>- The ASIC runs on 27 MHz. I hardly can imagine it needs 27 cycles to
>emulate one of the original C64.
>- I asked Darren if there are plans to produce a big C64 based on this
>print. So he revealed that, although it resembles a joystick, all
>connections of the normal ports are available in the form of pads. So one
>could solder his own expansionport, userport or whatever to this stick.
>- Regarding the extra features: they want to publish the memorymap and
>other
>technical details so programmers are able to develop new games etc. for
>this
>new C64.
>
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Pardon the nag. If anyone has any clues on working on these drives,
or thoughts about someone who can fix them (cost?) would be greatly
appreciated.
Is this drive a rebadged F-880?
Dennis Boone
------- Forwarded Message
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
From: Dennis Boone <drb(a)msu.edu>
Subject: TSZ07, "5F MOTOR FAULT"
Reply-to: drb(a)msu.edu
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:32:08 -0400
Sender: drb(a)yagi.h-net.msu.edu
Dear all,
I just obtained a TSZ07, and of course promptly tried to load a tape.
The drive blows for a while, rotating the front hub, routinely seems
to get the tape about halfway through the serpentine path, then emits
an error message "5F MOTOR FAULT". The rear hub seems to be moving at
least some, the front hub works the way I remember these units working.
(Ok, _my_ memories are of 1600bpi Cipher-badged units from my Prime
days.)
Any suggestions, or am I screwed?
Thanks,
Dennis Boone
------- End of Forwarded Message
Greetings all;
I'm heading off to DC tomorrow, and it occurred to me while there are all
the usual haunts for museums (NASM, Holocaust, monuments, so on, so
forth) that there quite possibly is a computing museum, or at least
"Warehouse o' Junk" somewhere in DC.
Anyone have suggestions as to things to look at along this vein?
JP
Hi Steve
I've got the source someplace if Joe doesn't come up with
it before I do. Of course, I should be able to do a ROM
dump but I'll be busy with a couple things this and next
weekend.
Dwight
>From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net>
>>
>I have finally had time to start bringing up my Northstar Horizon system. What
I was hoping was that someone had the hex prom code or source for the Intel
monitor in the MDS-800. In past time, I actually had ISIS-II running on a
Northstar system and it requires a Intel style monitor program at 0f800H. Once I
get access to my 8" disks again, I will be able to supply modified source that
would allow someone else to do the same thing.
>
>best regards, Steve Thatcher
>
Hi
Most know about motor rotation but he was
talking about delta versus Y. This can be quite
different.
Dwight
>From: "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org>
>
>> I can't think of a specific incident like that, but I do know
>> that our University uses a non-standard order of phases, and
>> that all the electrical contractors who come on site get a
>> lecture about it, for obvious reasons!
>
>What's a "standard order of phases"? I know if you inadvertently
>swap any two you potentially end up spinning the other way. For
>some things this matters and for other it doesn't.
>
>I can only assume I'm missing something obvious ...
>
>Antonio
>
>--
>
>---------------
>Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
>
>
Knowing that there's a few EBay users on the list who also know how to
fix modern software... :-)
On the rare occasions that I do actually bother to search EBay for
anything classic computer related I quite often find that hitting the
search submit button just hangs, with the browser (Opera under Linux in
my case) sitting there saying "Waiting for DNS confirmation of cookie
domain(s)".
If I open another browser window at this point and then try and go to
any other site it'll just sit there with the same message.
If I close the browser and come back later it's fine. Very frustrating.
Anyone else see this or know what causes it? I've *only* seen it happen
trying to do an Ebay search, never with any other website - but it's
been this way for months.
Whilst it's hung like this in the browser I can do DNS lookups from the
shell fine, so it's not a DNS problem or a local configuration problem.
I assume Opera happens to use shared DNS lookup code and for some reason
something to do with EBay's search *sometimes* makes it hang.
Presumably others might be able to shed some light on this, or at least
confim / deny that they've seen similar problems with EBay UK from
different platforms and browsers...
cheers
Jules
I'd like to create a resource listing of all the neo-retro hardware being
developed today.
For example:
- IDE or CF interfaces for the Apple ][ and other 8-bits,
- IDE HD interfaces for minis like Bob Shannon's for the HP1000, etc.
- Vince's M452X and W076X PDP-8 replacement boards
- Vince Briel's Replica-1
- Catweasel (I count this as "neo-retro" because it's useful to us)
- Bob Armstrong's SBC6120
- etc.
So basically, I'd like to know about any new hardware (and I guess
software) being developed and/or sold for vintage computers. I'm going to
compile a directory for this stuff and I also have other plans that may or
may not come to fruition.
I imagine you can post them to the list since it might be useful for other
folks to know about these projects, but please copy me directly
<sellam(a)vintage.org>.
Thanks!
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I was scrounging around in a surplus electronics shop the other day and
came across an interesting part. It was a Delay Line, part number
ADL-CN037. I forgot who the manufacturer was, but it was someone big and
established (GE maybe)?
Anyone know what this is?
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Hi,
Picked this up on ebay and have no use for it (I really wanted the i860
Programmer's Manual that came with this), so if anyone wants it let me know
$3 + shipping...
Thanks,
Ram
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Hi
There is a Jupiter Ace for sale on eBay. It is
in the UK and has the PAL type output ( faster
processor ). It comes with a large pile of software.
I sure hope someone in this group gets it.
Dwight
Here is a bit of good mainframe junk recently obtained:
http://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/3803.front.jpghttp://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/3803.open.jpghttp://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/3420.front.jpghttp://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/3420.open.jpg
Basically, the big blue box is an IBM 3803 Tape Control Unit - the brain
that connects 3420 Tape Units (one of three is pictured) to an S/370 thru
a Bus & Tag channel. The 3803 and two of the 3420s are from 1972, and the
third 3420 may be from 1980. The 3803 apparently works - it was in service
quite recently - but all three of the 3420s have problems. Luckily, I
obtained a full set of MLMs (service binders) for the units, plus some Bus
& Tag cables.
Note the 3803 has a full control panel. It better, as it has more
electronics in it than most minis of the era.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Hi
If you don't want them, i would be interested.
Thanks
Paul
paul(a)mirams.org
________________________________
From: cctech-bounces(a)classiccmp.org on behalf of Paul R. Santa-Maria
Sent: Thu 6/17/2004 11:13 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: FIND: Commodore SuperPET SP9000 + 2040
If you need manuals for your SuperPET
then I have the following:
SuperPET...
Waterloo BASIC (2)
System Overview (2)
Waterloo 6809 Assembler
Waterloo microFORTRAN (2)
Waterloo microPASCAL (2)
Waterloo microCOBOL
Waterloo microBASIC
Waterloo microAPL
The first one is published by WATFAC
and the rest are published by SAMS.
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Monroe, Michigan USA
I have finally had time to start bringing up my Northstar Horizon system. What I was hoping was that someone had the hex prom code or source for the Intel monitor in the MDS-800. In past time, I actually had ISIS-II running on a Northstar system and it requires a Intel style monitor program at 0f800H. Once I get access to my 8" disks again, I will be able to supply modified source that would allow someone else to do the same thing.
best regards, Steve Thatcher
>
> That, however, is a good idea. Might do that myself.
>
> -spc (Didn't hear of that one ... )
Hi
One of the things that would knock out a lot right now
would be to reject any mail that contained html pointers
that had the recipients email address or name in it.
This is almost always junk.
Dwight
On Jun 17, 23:31, Teo Zenios wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
> > The "old" (mid 1990s) Bay routers have a large amount of
blinkenlights
> > inside. Pretty neat, but I don't know what they did.
>
> I have a Bay Networks Instant Internet 100 router and it has 7
blinking
> lights on the front, each one does mean something but only a few
actually
> blink constantly when in normal use.
I have a Newbridge Orange Ridge 12-port 10/100 switch in the office,
which I keep because each port has 5 LEDs: Tx, Rx, Link, Collision,
100Mb/s. It also has some status LEDs and a set for its ATM port. It
looks like Christmas every day :-)
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Network Manager
University of York
Hello all:
I recently acquired a pair of Vector Graphic MZ systems - I've always had a fondness for Vectors since I had a chance to play with a hard drive equipped version in the early 90s when I was a consultant transitioning a company from the Vectors to PCs.
One of the MZs worked very well, one worked not so well. To appease the wife, I sold the good one and am now looking to get the other one up and running. The issue seems to be minor, the Flashwriter II that's in the box is throwing up garbage on the "terminal" and not interpreting keystrokes properly. Anyone familiar with these puppies who might be able to give me some pointers?
I've noticed a real dearth of info online for these boxes so I'll be putting a site up to start gathering info. If there's any lurkers out there playing with Vectors, send me a note, I'd love to compare notes.
Thanks!
Regards,
Gord
I have a box of old Amiga manuals for free - you pay
shipping.
Probably over 20 pounds in a large box.
I don't have a list of what's there, shout-out if
you're interested. Manuals only, no software.
STS
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I'm trying to find information and/or a controller card for the Plus
Passport. Plus (Plus Development Corporation) is the same company that
made the Hardcard.
The Passport is a removeable drive chassis. You install the chassis into
your PC and then the hard drive modules slide into it and connect to a
connector on the back end. You boot the computer, do your work, then when
you're done for the day you slide the hard drive out and take it with you.
I've got the chassis but need the interface card and/or any drivers that
it may have required.
Has anyone ever heard of one of these things, or used one, or have what I
need?
Thanks!
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If you need manuals for your SuperPET
then I have the following:
SuperPET...
Waterloo BASIC (2)
System Overview (2)
Waterloo 6809 Assembler
Waterloo microFORTRAN (2)
Waterloo microPASCAL (2)
Waterloo microCOBOL
Waterloo microBASIC
Waterloo microAPL
The first one is published by WATFAC
and the rest are published by SAMS.
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Paul
Monroe, Michigan USA
>From: "der Mouse" <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca>
>
>> Most know about motor rotation but he was talking about delta versus
>> Y. This can be quite different.
>
>What _is_ the difference between delta and Y? A while ago we had a
>discussion that ended up revolving around what point is grounded
>("neutral"). As far as I can see, delta and Y are basically
>equivalent, provided you don't try to refer anything to ground (or
>anything else beyond the three phases), and provided you don't overload
>anything.
>
>Am I missing something?
They would be the same if one only connected the points of
the three phase. The problem is one often ties 120V stuff
between on of the legs and the neutral center of the Y.
If one has three balanced 120V, everything is OK. If
not, one will have all the voltage drop and bang!
Dwight
was going through some books to add to the reference library here at the museum and ran across a most excellent book
Computer Structures: Readings and Examples
by Gordon Bell..... has the inside facts on many early system and even the 9100A HP calc.
also to my surprise I found it online at the below listed url.
http://www.research.microsoft.com/~gbell/Computer_Structures__Readings_and_…
If you have plesnty of disc space you may want to archive it in case this link ever goes away....
Happy reading!
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
On Jun 17, 23:48, Antonio Carlini wrote:
> > I can't think of a specific incident like that, but I do know
> > that our University uses a non-standard order of phases, and
> > that all the electrical contractors who come on site get a
> > lecture about it, for obvious reasons!
>
> What's a "standard order of phases"? I know if you inadvertently
> swap any two you potentially end up spinning the other way. For
> some things this matters and for other it doesn't.
Exactly. Apparently one order is more common than the other, and we
use the "uncommon" one, but I can't remember which is which.
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On Jun 17, 21:38, Jules Richardson wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 20:29, Joe R. wrote:
> > At 09:22 PM 6/16/04 +0100, you wrote:
> > >
> > In that case, you might want to give this a try.
> > <http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/Articles/BootItNG/>.
>
> I don't recall Pete saying he needed to tweak an existing partition
on a
> drive though - or is there some other justifcation for using that
> software?
The problem of having DOS and Windows coexist. It might be OK with XP,
which certainly coexists happily with earlier versions of Windows; I
don't know if that extends to DOS but I'm sure I'd find out quite
quickly if I tried it :-) If I do I'll let the list know in case it
helps anyone else who needs an environment for retro software/hardware.
> Currently I triple-boot the desktop PC between Linux, Windows 2k and
DOS
> 6.22 - but I'm using SCSI disks, so Linux and Windows co-exist on the
> larger drive and DOS has a seperate drive all to itself. I just
change
> the boot SCSI ID in the SCSI BIOS to boot from the DOS drive when I
need
> to. Not sure if there's an equivalent if you're using IDE drives
though.
Yes, it's called a DPDT switch ;-) Or you can just use a boot floppy.
> As an aside, I'm curious as to what (if any) equivalents to 22disk
there
> are for Linux. Certainly it's probably a more viable platform if you
> want to have hardware fitted at strange addresses or outside the
scope
> of the BIOS than DOS is.
I've not seen anything and in fact last time I looked at Linux's
support for non-PC formats, notably anything that started it's sector
numbering at zero as %deity intended, it was sadly lacking (but that
was quite a while ago)
> I have no idea what sort of control the kernel headers allow you over
> the floppy controller(s) though. Of course you probably have a good
> reason for using 22disk - either a) because it's there
That's the main reason. I'd use teledisk for disk images, as people
seem to use that much more often.
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University of York
I've arranged lodging for VCF East. I've got a room block reserved at the
Marriott Burlington. $69 a night if you pay in advance (no
cancellation/refund) or $79 a night if you just reserve in advance.
It's a pretty good deal, considering this is a 3-* facility with internet
access in each room (I don't know if there's an extra charge for that, but
probably). It's also within walking distance of Sun's campus.
More information is here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/lodging.php
I'm sure there are other cheapie hotels in the area but you'll have to
find them yourself. A good place to start is to go to Yahoo! maps, put
"Network Drive" in "Burlington, MA" into the search box, and then click on
the links to find local hotels.
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I've arranged lodging for VCF East. I've got a room block reserved at the
Marriott Burlington. $69 a night if you pay in advance (no
cancellation/refund) or $79 a night if you just reserve in advance.
It's a pretty good deal, considering this is a 3-* facility with internet
access in each room (I don't know if there's an extra charge for that, but
probably). It's also within walking distance of Sun's campus.
More information is here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/lodging.php
I'm sure there are other cheapie hotels in the area but you'll have to
find them yourself. A good place to start is to go to Yahoo! maps, put
"Network Drive" in "Burlington, MA" into the search box, and then click on
the links to find local hotels.
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I've put off asking about this in view of the discussion about what's
on/off topic, but I need some help from Those Who Know These Things.
My specific requirement is to put together a PC to run 22DISK, my
DOS-only PAL/PROM programmer software, and the like. It will run DOS
6.22 in a FAT16 partition (and probably WinXP in another partition
because I will not permit more than one PC in my workshop, but that
part is definitely off topic so I mention it no further). I want it to
be able to support single-density floppies, and eventually 8" drives
too.
Available "ingredients" are an Intel SE440BX motherboard (if it
matters) with a P2 400 and stupid Intel/Phoenix BIOS, a Teac FD-55GFR
5.25" floppy drive, choice of any number of 3.5" floppy drives, the
usual other bits that go to make a PC, and a few harddisk/floppy
controllers, including a Western Digital WD1006V-MM2 F002, and a
Western Digital WDAT-240. I have a couple of older no-name ISA floppy
cards but I suspect they won't support HD floppies (though I wonder if
they'd support 8" DD? Same speed...) and I probably have other 5.25"
drives somewhere. I picked those controllers, by the way, because they
have 37C65 FDCs and the magic second (9.6MHz) crystals and are reputed
to do SD correctly.
A problem is the braindamaged BIOS/mobo, which only handles one floppy.
Yes, really; not content with bastardising the interface to enable
cables-with-a-twist, they've removed all drive selects but one. No
pins, no PCB tracks, or in the words of the manual, "no connection".
However, if I disable the onboard FDC in the BIOS, I can persuade the
machine to see the FDC on a WD1006V-MM2. Only it won't boot; it gets
so far and then hangs. It almost looks as if disabling the FDC in the
BIOS actually disables support for an FDC at the primary address, and
MS-DOS can't complete the boot. Do I need to do something with
CONFIG.SYS? Maybe it would be better to leave the onboard FDC alone,
and use the WD controller as a secondary? I guess I do need DRIVER.SYS
for that, yes?
I have a similar problem with the HD controller. I want to use two IDE
channels, but I can't disable the HDC on a WD card; I can only change
the address between primary and secondary - and I can't even do that on
the WDAT-240, unless someone here knows something I don't. But I can't
get the PC to work properly with the IDE controller on the WDAT-240; if
I leave the onboard controller enabled, they fight, and if I disable
the onboard controller in the BIOS, it seems to stop the WD controller
working properly. Any suggestions?
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Anyone know what these are? Just been offered a couple of processor
boxes with cache streamers, front-loading reel tape drives with vacuum
load, and some sort of disk units ("platters the size of dinner plates"
I was quoted) + terminals, printers, cabling etc.
I'm awaiting photos, thought I'd ask in the meantime though.
I assumed at first (from the mention of the size of things and the age)
that it was "just" rebranded DEC stuff, but I could be wrong.
Google didn't seem to have anything useful to say on 'ROCC' though,
other than a modern systems company who could well have been around in
the 70's selling rebadged equipment I suppose...
Sounds like stuff that should be saved anyway, so reserve space in those
garages now :-)
cheers,
Jules