> From: Allison
>> What about warm white LEDs, though? ... maybe they are available in
>> bulb replacement form?
> I used a supply of dead bulbs to make mine. a little heat and the glass
> goes, a resistor and a 3mm led and good to go.
Urr, I'm not up to making them! I was really hoping for the plug-in
replacement ones in white... They used to make replacements in red (we
replaced the bulbs in our -11/45 with them, BITD), so I was hoping.
Anyone know of a contemporary source for LED replacements for front panel
bulbs? (Of any colour!)
Noel
> I'll have to redo my kludgy fix to gmtime() ... I guess I'll have to fix
> it for real, instead of my kludgy fix (which extended it to work for
> 16-bit results). :-)
> ...
> And on the -11/23:
> Note that the returned 'quotient' is simply the high part of the dividend.
Heh. I had decided that the easiest clean and long-lived fix was to just to do
it right, using the long division routine used in the V7 C compiler runtime:
http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V7/usr/src/libc/crt/ldiv.s
and I vaguely recalled reading a DMR story that talked about that, so just for
amusement I decided to re-read it, and looked it up:
https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/odd.html
(the section "Comments I do feel guilty about"), and it's lucky I did, because
I found this:
Addendum 18 Oct 1998
Amos Shapir of nSOF (and of long memory!) just blackened (or widened) the
spot a bit more in a mail message, to wit:
'I gather the "almost" here is because this trick almost worked... It has a
nasty bug which I had to find the hard way!
The "clever part" relies on the fact that if the "bvc 1f" is not taken, it
means that the result could not fit in 16 bits; in that case the long value
in r0,r1 is left unchanged. The bug is that this behavior is not documented;
in later models (I found this on an 11/34) when the result does fit in 16
bits but not in 15 bits ... which makes this routine provide very strange
results!'
So this code won't work on an 11/23 either (which bashes the low register of
the pair; above). I'd have been groveling in buggy math, again...
Caveat Haquur (if you're trying to run stock V7 on a /23 or /34)!
Noel
> From: Charles Dickman
> Does anyone have DEC bus edge connectors they are willing to sell?
> I would like to do some OMNIBUS interface prototyping and I need a way
> to connect to the bus back-plane.
Have you looked through Douglas Electronics' offerings? They have a lot of
DEC-backplane compatible boards that might be what you want, e.g.:
http://www.douglas.com/index.php/18-de-77.html
this one.
Noel
So, I have discovered, to my astonishment, that the double-word version of the
DIV instruction on the PDP-11 won't do a divide if the result won't fit into
15 bits. OK, I can understand it bitching if the quotient wouldn't fit into 16
bits - but what's the problem with returning an unsigned quotient?
And, just for grins, the results left in the registers which hold the quotient
and remainer is different in the -11/23 (KDF11-A) and the -11/73 (KDJ11-A).
(Although, to be fair, the PDP-11 Architecture Manual says 'register contents
are unpredictable if there's an overflow'.)
Oh well, guess I'll have to redo my kludgy fix to gmtime() (the distributed
version of which in V6 qhas a problem when the number of 8-hour periods since
the epoch overflows 15 bits)! I guess I'll have to fix it for real, instead of
my kludgy fix (which extended it to work for 16-bit results). :-)
I discovered this when I plugged in an -11/73 to make sure the prototype QSIC
(our RK11/etc emulator for the QBUS) worked with the -11/73 as well as the
-11/23 (which is what we'd mostly been using - when we first started working
on the DMA and interrupts, we did try them both). I noticed that with the
-11/73, the date printed incorrectly:
Sun Mar 10 93:71:92 EST 1991
After a certain amount of poking and prodding, I discovered the issue - and
on further reading, discovered the limitation to 15-bit results.
For those who are interested in the details, here's a little test program that
displays the problem:
r = ldiv(a, b, d);
m = ldivr;
printf("a: 0%o %d. b: 0%o %d. d: 0%o %d.\n", a, a, b, b, d, d);
printf("q: 0%o %d. r: 0%o %d.\n", r, r, m, m);
and, for those who don't have V6 source at hand, here's ldiv():
mov 2(sp),r0
mov 4(sp),r1
div 6(sp),r0
mov r1,_ldivr
rts pc
So here are the results, first from a simulator:
tld 055256 0145510 070200
a: 055256 23214. b: 0145510 -13496. d: 070200 28800.
q: 0147132 -12710. r: 037110 15944.
This is _mathematically_ correct: 055256,0145510 = 1521404744., 070200 =
28800., and 1521404744./28800. = 0147132.
And on the -11/23:
a: 055256 23214. b: 0145510 -13496. d: 070200 28800.
q: 055256 23214. r: 037110 15944.
Note that the returned 'quotient' is simply the high part of the dividend.
And on the -11/73:
a: 055256 23214. b: 0145510 -13496. d: 070200 28800.
q: 055256 23214. r: 037110 15944.
Note that in addition to the quotient behaviour, as with the /23, the
'remainder' is the low part of the dividend.
Noel
Hi folks,
I have a question about floating CSR allocation on PDP-11s. Both the 1976 and 1981 versions of the PDP-11 peripherals handbook indicate the floating CSRs are to be allocated starting at address 760010. However, both the XXDP FLOAT program and simh's autoconfig suggest I should set my DZ11 (first floating CSR device in my config) to 760100. Anyone know what gives?
thanks,
--FritzM.
Hi folks,
I have found it very convenient to maintain a simh configuration that parallels the physical hardware configuration of my PDP-11/45. I'm just about to add a DR11-C for a physical interface that I am building -- this will "grab" a floating interrupt ahead of a DZ11 that I already have in the machine.
Does anyone here know of convenient way to inform simh's autoconfig that I wish to insert a DR11-C?
cheers,
--FritzM.
> From: Allison
> you have to pull the panel apart to replace them, gets tiring. Modern
> yellow LEDs are nice and bright, and don't burn out.
> Less digging in the box is a good thing as over time fumble errors can
> hurt it.
Agree about replacing lamps - we switched to LEDs BITD because replacing
burned-out lamps (especially when you're trying to fix some _other_ problem)
when there's something better available is just, silly.
> Modern red leds at 8mA are very much brighter. However the yellow look
> more like lamps.
What about warm white LEDs, though? The ones we used in the QSIC indicator
panel are, to me, pretty much indistinguishable from the lights as I recall
them from BITD. I mean, maybe if I had them sitting next to each other, I
could tell, but... Those are SMD, though, but maybe they are available
in bulb replacement form?
Noel
I am the temporary caretaker of a Sperry UTS-40 "intelligent" terminal (very
green screen, Z-80 based terminal from the late 70's or early 80's) which I
grabbed on eBait for sending parts to Dominique Carlier over in Belgium. The
CRT, power supply and character generator seem to work (gives a very sharp
semi-random geometric display on power-on, sometimes with a few nicely drawn
characters interspersed), but the darn thing does not seem to boot on reset.
The picture goes away and weird sound is emitted from the speaker after a
long beep-of-death. I was wondering if anyone had service documentation. Or
a dump of the firmware. Al, anything that crossed your desk?
Marc
I have a BA11-M box with the usual front panel control, however it was
damaged and all three switches have been sheared off.? The LED's and the
circuit card that connects to the power supply appear to be OK.? I would
like to repair it and put it back into service.? Is there a replacement
for those switches?
Doug
Does anyone have DEC bus edge connectors they are willing to sell? I
would like to do some OMNIBUS interface prototyping and I need a way
to connect to the bus back-plane. In my mis-guided youth I resorted so
sawing them off perfectly good boards. I would rather not do that
again.
If anyone has prototype boards they have designed with fingers or dead
boards they would part I will take them. My methods are crude, but
effective.
-chuck
> From: Steven Malikoff
> I also have a book 'RADAR How it all began' by Jim Brown ...
> incredibly precise recollection of the engineering
Wow, thanks for that incredibly valuable pointer. My copy just arrived, and
it's fabulous; it documents in great detail a part of the story that's
little-known, which is the industrialization of the early radar work. There
are a number of books from people on the research side (Watson-Watt, Bowen,
etc), but not much on the industrial side.
There is an obscure book:
Frank Rowlinson, "Contribution to Victory: An Account of Some of the
Special Work of the Metropolitan-Vickers Electrical Company Limited
in the Second World War", Metropolitan-Vickers Electrical Company,
Manshester, 1947
(which covers a lot of stuff, not just the radar work), but it doesn't have a
lot of technical detail. What it _does_ have a lot of large, excellent B+W
photos of the early CH, CHL etc transmitters (which MetroVick built), but not
much technical detail of them. That book, and Brown's book, are a marvellous
pairing, since he has the detailed description, but no images! A very
complementary pairing.
Noel
All,
More of the stack. if any of this interests you please contact me via Private (not list) email at mtapley at swri.edu.
If you do want something, send me your shipping address and exactly what you want. I'll get back to you with estimated shipping costs (USPS media rate where possible) as soon as I can. You send me payment (any method is acceptable; USPS does not recommend cash in the mail) and I will ship when payment arrives. If you want Fed-Ex or something different from USPS media let me know at your first contact and I will price that for you. If you can afford to send slightly more than costs, I'll collect up the surplus for Cindy and get it to her.
If more than one person wants the same thing, it goes to the person sending me the earliest time-tagged email.
If Al K. wants anything for Bitsavers, he gets priority (even if his is not the first email) up until it leaves my hands.
There will be multiple sets of email from me, each with a short list of things, unless/until someone asks me to quit.
Thanks for your attention!
- Mark
This list is all Books (down to and including pamphlets), no software included.
?????????
Adobe Photoshop for Macintosh, Version 3 (Classroom in a Book), 1994.
American Heritage Dictionary: 3rd edition for Mac. 32 pages.
Communicator 4 quick-study guide. Laminated folder.
DeltaGraph Pro 3 Users Guide, 2nd edition. 1993.
Excel 5.0 Advanced, Macintosh, student manual. Logical Operations. 1994.
Excel: Mastering Excel 5 for the Mac (An Insiders Guide). Thomas Chester and Julia Kelly. 1995.
Eudora Mail Pro, educational use. V. 3.0 user manual & quick reference guide.
FrameMaker. Using Framemaker release 5, Windows and Macintosh. 1995.
Inspiration user manuals. Getting Started manual. Idea book.
Netscape: Official Netscape Communicator 4 Book. Macintosh edition. Pi? James. 1997.
Now Up-to-date and Now Contact (user manuals). (Two different versions, to match the two different versions on disk we have, I imagine.)
Office: Getting Started.
The On-line Research Handbook. Hayden Mead and Andy Clark. 1997.
Port Replicator: Users Guide. Micronpc.com 1999
PowerPoint: Using PowerPoint 4 for Macintosh. Que, 1994.
Quicken version 5.: Users Guide for Macintosh Perform Users.
Quicken 5 for Macs for Dummies. Stephen L. Nelson. 1994.
The Student?s Guide to Doing Research on the Internet. Dave and Mary Campbell, Addison-Wesley. 1995.
vi: Learning the vi editor. Linda Lamb, O?Reilly & Associates, Ltd. 1990.
Word: The Macintosh Bible Guide to Word 6. Maria Langer. ?Includes Power Macs.? 1995.
I have a couple of carts I'd like to read, found a drive today, talks SCSI but not common command set.
It seems to act more like a disk than a tape (read block makes the tape move), but mode sense doesn't
return anything sensible.
The only thing I've ever been able to turn up on these drives is a mention in a Fuji product brochure
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:28:11 -0600
> From: Grant Taylor <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net>
> Subject: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13
> Message-ID:
> <6a172546-d8f1-13b9-f843-8fdba5799f09 at spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
>
> If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
> Multiprise 3000.
> But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it that way.
The power requirements aren't that bad, are they?
I think Guy Sotomayor (spelling, apologies if I'm butchering ...) has a
MP3K that I believe I bid against him on eBay once, and he ended up
getting it (which made me feel a bit better). It's what I call a 1/4
fridge size.
There were/are multi MP3K's on eBay currently that I've been watching, and
one didn't know if there was an OS on it (Not sure I'd want to fight that
battle with IBM, although a corner of the Internet lengthy forum post
(yes, anecdotes are not evidence) leads me to believe they at least are
"sympathetic" to hobbyists, but they won't publically admit it. ... but
I still didn't want to chance getting a paperweight. The other one is way
too much for me $ wise.
I have a basement and 220V available. For an IBM Mainframe of my own,
damn the power bill. :) As long as it doesn't have the awful whine of
an Alpha DS10-L I don't think my wife would mind.
I will admit to myself that at some point there will be a limit to how
many systems I can have at the house though running 24/7.... :)
Fred
I am looking into getting a VMS
Machines up and running and or
Open/netbsd you mentioned you had a few to donate or sale thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Mar 2018, at 11:55, Liam Proven via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the process of giving
>> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
>
> The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
> sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
> toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.
>
> Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
>
> But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be interested.
>
> --
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There are two gzip'ed files up now of analog digitized 9 track data under
http://bitsavers.org/projects/9track containing two files of 16 bit incrementing
data patterns blocked 512 bytes/blk and the tach signal from a Qualstar 1260 running
at 50 ips.
The data can be viewed using Salea's Logic app in simulation mode if anyone has burning
curiosity what a 1/2" tape block looks like.
I made these as test data today for Len Shustek's 9 track readtape project
https://github.com/LenShustek/readtape
Hi Folks.
It's time for the Commodore collectors to get their turn. I've created a
separate thread for Commodore and related items for sale from my
collection. I will be continuing to add Commodore stuff to this thread as
I come across it.
The list is here:
http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?62641-Sellam-s-Commodore-Sales-Th…
If you are interested in anything then as usual for fastest response please
do reply to me by e-mail via <sellam.ismail at gmail.com>.
Thanks!
Sellam
During my browsing, I've run across mention of the Emerson "Tape Pac"
2000 series, a half-inch cartridge tape system targeted at
minicomputers, and it seems, the PDP-11.
Here's a mention in IEEE Computer, about the new products at the 1976 NCC:
https://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/co/1976/06/01647391.pdf
(That was about the same time as "The Milpitas Monster")
I can't find of photos of the thing. Has anyone run into one of these?
--Chuck
>> I am not at liberty to post the document.
>
>This?
...
>Also:
...
>If so, it might be this:
...
There's a difference between "I am not at liberty..." and "what anyone
can google...".
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 04:25:26 +0000
> From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu>
> Subject: AlphaServers
> Message-ID:
> <MWHPR03MB257387ED466A847E328DC5D6E4D20 at MWHPR03MB2573.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I'll pile on with my $0.212 (two cents plus tax).
I started with a VAXStation 4000/90A. Still have it. Absorbed that
system into SIMH and upgraded to a Alphastation (server?) 255. Sold that
the 255 and upgraded again to my current DS10, running OpenVMS 8.3.
Typing on it now in fact, ssh'ed in from $work.
Luckily, I used to work for a company that had data processing services
heavily invested in OpenVMS/DEC/Compaq/HP gear. I'm sure I acquired the
systems over the years for well below market rates.
I could probably sell the VAX 90A for a pretty large sum of $. ... but I
really don't want to ... because then I'd have the money and not the VAX.
:)
If the power bill was free I would upgrade again .... but I have enough
24/7 equipment running in the home office. :) ... and I'm always
hunting for more! (an iSeries, perhaps a Multiprise 3000, etc ... )
Fred
The Quest for a Universal Translator for Old, Obsolete Computer Files
To save bygone software, files, and more, researchers are working to
emulate decades-old technology in the cloud.
by Jessica Leigh Hester
March 08, 2018
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-to-open-old-computer-files
________________________________
>From the sound of this, it strikes me that several of the
people/organizations that the author spoke to don't know much about
running older software that _will_ work on modern hardware...
--
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Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com
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Here is detailed pics of the SGI origin 2000. Its in my shop tonight
hoping we can identify whats here.
Image heavy
https://imgur.com/a/mdlCW
Also these 19 racks came with it and it looks like some old cluster stuff
in them
https://imgur.com/a/feoEq
Greetings,
I have an old PDP-11 RL02 that I would like to read, to preserve its data
for archival purposes. Ideally I would like to extract and store every
block on the disk. I am in southern California but would be willing to
drive a day or so to anyone who still has an RL02 disk drive on a PDP-11 or
VAX and can read it.
I can bring a computer with X/Y/Zmodem/Kermit and RS-232 cables if that
helps.
Thanks,
Paul Hardy
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk wrote:
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
Well my AS4100 is running OpenVMS even as we speak. I have an Alphastation
500 here doing nothing. I arranged for somebody to get two free DS20Es
last year so, yes, I still do alphas.
Intel? Don't need no stinkin' intel around here.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black
All,
I'm looking for info on a George Risk 771 parallel ASCII keyboard. I've got
one but no documentation or existing cabling. I'd like to interface it to
my Poly-88.
Thanks,
Jonathan
As the most obvious example of the impedance mismatch between 370
architecture and 68000 microarchitecture, the 68000 is hardwired to have
eight each data and address registers, not sixteen GPRs, and microcode
can't easily paper over that.
Similarly, the 8087 microarchitecture has hardwired support for binary
floating point normalization, and microcode can't efficiently force that to
do radix 16 normalization.
Both problems could be surmounted (inefficiently) with enough microcode,
but the chips were designed with no significant extra microcode ROM and PLA
capacity.
Hi,
last weekend I cleaned and restored a TI Silent 703 printing terminal.
A rather common type with its whopping 300 baud transfer rate - nevertheless
a piece of history.
It was easy to fix a broken trace on the keyboard PCB (corrosion) and to
roughen the idler roller for better grip on the paper.
Now there is one issue left:
The print head is missing one dot (infinite resistance: burnt out) and one
dot prints weak (resistor seems to have twice the resistance of the others,
which are all around 95 Ohms).
As these terminals were produced in large numbers and the printhead/ribbon
cable combo was a user serviceable part someone might have some spare
parts...
So: if you have a new or used part
#2310472-0001 printhead, thermal
I would be interested.
It is a 10 wire ribbon cable with the print head. It was used in the 703 and
707 and probably also in other devices of the TI 700 Silent family.
Martin
are there scanned ? copies of Honeywell?computer journal in pdf or? ?have several bound? volumes 68-69 ?and??also ?73... ?tightly bound... ?if ?scanned ?already? somewhere will just put on shelf her and consider?no further action
?
ed# www.smecc.org
All,
More of the stack. if any of this interests you please contact me via Private (not list) email at mtapley at swri.edu.
If you do want something, send me your shipping address and exactly what you want. I'll get back to you with estimated shipping costs (USPS media rate where possible) as soon as I can. You send me payment (any method is acceptable; USPS does not recommend cash in the mail) and I will ship when payment arrives. If you want Fed-Ex or something different from USPS media let me know at your first contact and I will price that for you. If you can afford to send slightly more than costs, I'll collect up the surplus for Cindy and get it to her.
If more than one person wants the same thing, it goes to the person sending me the earliest time-tagged email.
If Al K. wants anything for Bitsavers, he gets priority (even if his is not the first email) up until it leaves my hands.
There will be multiple sets of email from me, each with a short list of things, unless/until someone asks me to quit.
Thanks for your attention!
- Mark
This list is all Software. Some of it appears to match the books in the previous list, which is why this is titled round 10B - if you are interested in one of these, let me know to look for the matching manual (if I have it).
?????????
Adobe Acrobat 4.0, education version
Adobe Photoshop 3.0, 8 disks
DeltaGraph Professional for Macintosh. 3 disks. 1991.
DeltaGraph Pro 3. 1994. 4 disks.
EarthLink Sprint Internet Access Software: Total Access 2.0, Mac or Windows, with a book called ?Getting the Most out of the Internet,? third edition, for new users of the EarthLink network, including such information as how to use email.
Framemaker release 5 (for Macintosh). CD-ROM disk, quick reference, Introducing Frame Maker, Installing FrameMaker
Inspiration for Macintosh. V. 4.1a Two disks. 1988-1994. Also 4.1c Updater.
Kensington Mouseworks QuickStart, plus disk, v. 5.04.
MacWorld present Click art disk
Norton Utilities v. 4.0, education
Now Synchronize. 2 disks. For Palm Pilot and Mac.
Now Up-To-Date, and Contact. V. 3.5 for Macintosh. 3 disks.
Now Up-to-Date. 1993. (probably later than the other one? Looks more sophisticated)
Now Contact, 1993.
Ohio Distinctive Software: Executive Diet Helper, Weight Loss Planner, Menu Planner (Macintosh), 1994
Sad macs Utilities, the official companion disk for Ted Landau?s book, Sad Macs, Bombs, and Other Disasters. 1996.
On 03/11/2018 08:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> I've scrapped six of those already. They aren't worth anything.
>
>
> On 3/11/18 1:23 AM, jim stephens wrote:
>> I think this is actually a quad density half inch.? If the guy didn't burn it up (says probably 12v fault) it would be
>> handy.
>>
Isn't that a Kennedy streamer? Sure looks like one.
I note that the Kennedy incremental 7 inch reel drive in the NASA flight
case hasn't attracted a lot of interest.
That sample tape that I got, however does verify that the parity track
on this telemetry stuff is unused. So that explains the 8 data inputs
with no parity on the NASA model.
--Chuck
I won an auction down at Indiana University for an SGI Origin 2000 System
and 19 racks.
Trip was an adventure. Rented a 26ft Penske Truck which was a junkheap in
itself. Off we went. My gf and her best friend went along and had a blast.
7 Hour drive down from Michigan to Bloomington Indiana. In a rainstorm at
dark. Waffle House outside of Indianapolis made for a very nice night.
Got loaded up 9am yesterday morning. And headed home.
Here are pics of the SGIs. And my gf's find an IBM Selectric II. Shes a
typewriter lover.
https://imgur.com/a/XzDXg
Plan now is to start rounding up parts to fix it. It seems mostly cosmetic.
Goal is to have it fully operational by VCFMW.
I also found some historical info on it too
https://www.hpcwire.com/1997/05/16/indiana-u-installs-64-node-origin2000/
Eventually this belongs on display somewhere. I plan to get an inventory
of everything this week. and Im looking for any extra parts that anyone
has for this.
Thanks
This turned up on Fess Bouc yesterday and it was news to me.
It's a DIY replica of an original IBM PC motherboard:
http://www.mtmscientific.com/pc-retro.html
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Folks, sorry for the Sun spam.
Everything was working in my newly acquired 3/260, and the monitor is even starting to shape up.
It was a gorgeous machine until I tried to use the SCSI bus on it.
The controller is dead, very dead. No fuses or obvious things.
No matter the device or chain... including the original disks.
?getbyte error, phase mismatch?
So again I plead- does anyone have a Sun 3 scsi controller, preferably of the internally pinned type, sitting on a shelf somewhere?
Thanks,
- Ian
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 04:53:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jerry Wright <g-wright at att.net>
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: 2 long lost systems Needs OS
Message-ID: <1082292210.13919302.1520571207779 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi All,? I'm still looking for the OS media or any manuals for 2 systems 1 is a OSM Zues 4 Early Z80 System,the other is? a Pertec p4010 mini. which uses coax to the terminals.? I can find a little bit on the Pertec 3200 but nothing on the 4010.
Thanks, Jerry
,,,,,,,,,,,,,? Update? ,,,,,,,,, for those that asked and add info
The Zues is cute little desk top system with? a wood top. 16x16, Very simple, but nice.Had its own Multi user OS, Z80,? Seagate? ST-212 HD? 12 meg , 5 1/4 Floppy.? With 10
serial? ports, I would guess this thing would be sweating bullets,? if all 10 ports where busy.
Of coarse this is 2018 and it still runs. That has to say something.? date code is 1984
?Pertec
After doing a little searching . This is a Pertec 3200 series. By the info I have seen,It is a 3230 floor standing model.? The P4010 on the tag is most likely the configuration ???
It has a 70 meg HD (MFM), Bridge board,Tape drive and? 5 1/4 Floppy. 68020 processor
The Coax ports, where fast and The terminals could? be a long distance away. The Bridge board has a 68000 Processor and DPT sticker on the Roms.? Very nicely made Machine.
Each Terminal Had a Z-80 with 64k of Memory in it.
There is a company in? Denver that lists the OS but they have not returned my E-mail Requests Yet ??
- Jerry
I have added some Zues and Pertec? Terminal pictures to this file.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xsa6xu6fn9ct6db/AAC93v0xdy0nSuOJQ-1ApGbta?dl=0
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 04:53:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jerry Wright <g-wright at att.net>
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: 2 long lost systems Needs OS
Message-ID: <1082292210.13919302.1520571207779 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi All,? I still looking for the OS media or any manuals for 2 systems 1 is a OSM Zues 4 Early Z80 System,the other is? a Pertec p4010 mini. which uses coax to the terminals.? I can find a little bit on the Pertec 3200 but nothing on the 4010.
Thanks, Jerry
Here are a few pictures of the P4010
?Try this again. Let me know it ti fails
- Jerry
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xsa6xu6fn9ct6db/AAC93v0xdy0nSuOJQ-1ApGbta?dl=0
Does anyone have more info on these Japanse machines. I collected the
infomation I got from the former owner of a PHC-3100. Interesting machines
based on the TMS9900.
http://www.datormuseum.se/computers/others/sanyophc3100-1
I have 32 floppies which was dumped using ImageDisk. 40 tracks, double
sided, FM encoding. But none of these floppies are original so I am not
sure if I have the full OS, whatever that is. I also lack documentation.
>From what I understand they were never sold outside Japan.
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 04:53:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jerry Wright <g-wright at att.net>
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: 2 long lost systems Needs OS
Message-ID: <1082292210.13919302.1520571207779 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi All,? I still looking for the OS media or any manuals for 2 systems 1 is a OSM Zues 4 Early Z80 System,the other is? a Pertec p4010 mini. which uses coax to the terminals.? I can find a little bit on the Pertec 3200 but nothing on the 4010.
Thanks, Jerry
Here is a few pictures, This has? a 68020 processor and a build date of 1989
Pertec_4010.zip
- Jerry
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Hi All,? I still looking for the OS media or any manuals for 2 systems 1 is a OSM Zues 4 Early Z80 System,the other is? a Pertec p4010 mini. which uses coax to the terminals.? I can find a little bit on the Pertec 3200 but nothing on the 4010.
Thanks, Jerry
While working at the scrapyard today, i managed to get a couple 386
machines right as they were being dropped off. One is a pakard bell
with monitor, in pristine condition. The other is a Tandy 2500 with
monitor, in rough looking shape but working too. The monitor is pretty
beat up for the tandy but working.
I have been on the look ut for a good 386 mahine for a while now, i
got kinda lucky and picked up two working systems in one day.
The pakard bell is up and running fine, it was a pretty standard
machine and just needed a hard drive.
The tandy 2500 is pretty nice as well, it has a cdrom and a hard drive
installed, although the hard drive is dead and seems to only accept AT
hard drives.
I am still learning about tandy computers, on my other machines, i was
unable to find an 8 bit isa cad that could support newer ide drives.
On the machine i just picked up it looks like a 16 bit isa slot is
free, if i were to install a 16 bit ide hard drive controller for use
with newer ide drives, would it work, or cause some kind of conflict
with the onboard hard drive controller?
The floppy drive is quite dirty but reads disks sometimes, i need to
clean it up. Im hoping to post back with a couple pictures of both the
machines running. I do not need them both, I really like the packard
bell, but if someone absolutely needs a 386 machine with monitor I am
open to offers to get one shipped out and keep the other one.
--Devin
Hi,
I'm trying to repair this monitor, but unfortunately I can't find any service manual or guide with schematics for it.
I found something on www.electronic-circuitry.com<http://www.electronic-circuitry.com>, but it's impossible to download.
Thanks in advance,
Janek Sochaczewski
Happy DEC-10 Day!
It is my honor to announce that we at Living Computers: Museum + Labs
are releasing to the computing community our Massbus Disk Emulator
and all the associated software. This device connects via Massbus
cables to the RH10 and RH20 interfaces on KI-10 and KL-10 systems, to
the RH11 interface on KS-10 and small PDP-11 systems (including the
front end 11/40 on the KL-10), and to the RH70 on the PDP-11/70. The
MDE provides up to 8 emulated RP06 or RP07 disks (represented by disk
files in the format used by the SimH emulation of these systems).
We expect that it will also work with the RH780 on the VAX-11/780 and
VAX-11/785 although we have not yet tested it in this configuration.
The original MDE was designed by Keith Perez in 2005, and emulated up
to four RP06 drives connected to a KL-10. The current generation was
a redesign by Bruce Sherry in conjunction with the restoration of our
DECsystem-1070 in 2012, and initially provided eight RP06 drives on
the RH10. It has undergone continual development, with associated
software created for us by Bob Armstrong, and is now being opened up
for the use of the relevant communities.
To this end, we have placed the design files for the hardware and the
source files for the software to interface with it, along with our
library of Universal Peripheral Emulator routines, on public access
repositories at Github. The URLs for these repositories are
https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/MDE2https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/MBShttps://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/UPELIB
These are released under a very liberal license which will allow for
free use of the MDE by any interested party.
Happy Dec-10 Day!
Rich
Richard Alderson, Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computers: Museum + Labs
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
Cell: (206) 465-2916
Desk: (206) 342-2239
http://www.livingcomputerss.org/
The 1969-71 AlphaCom terminal is a candidate for
https://terminals-wiki.org/
Here are some photos
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=502
I got this from the inventor's son. I am unsure how many of these were
made or put into production. The terminal kind-of worked for a while, it
saves forms in core memory and transmits them like a glass teletype (i.e.
datapoint 3300) and would have been a competitor machine. Unfortunately
it's too complex for me to decipher, there are no schematics and I am
unable to get it running again. The Sanyo TV adapted as a display is also
dysfunctional now. Perhaps someone here would like to help me make
progress. I have a ton of photos on my site, linked from the above thread,
but doubtless more research is necessary.
I am located in Landenberg, PA USA near Philadelphia due west of Newark
Delaware.
BIll
I have well over 100, maybe 200 DEC compatible boards which I have no plans
to use. Maybe 20 or so EMULEX, DILOG, ADAC, DATA TRANSLATIONS, and dozens
or other manufacturers. Also the ones that have no company name on them.
They range from a few PDP-8 boards, to Q-bus. Unibus, to VAX.
I hope to have a complete list sometime later this year, bur feel free to
send a wish list (off list)and I will dig through them.
Thanks, Paul
I have at LEAST 5 cases of these old Sam's books. Any interest, or dumpster
fodder? Mostly Zenith and RCA.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 cell
sales at elecplus.com
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It is just the manuals. Seth answered me and I am pretty sure he is going to
take them. I don't have the 200 pound hardware anymore.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 cell
sales at elecplus.com
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