- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Peter C. Wallace <pcw(a)mesanet.com> wrote: > That reminds me, I have a bad 4SIMX printer (Jams) available for free (Pickup > in SFBA only) It has Duplexer and Postscript options... Well, since I've already got mine working and fattened with the full set of options, I don't need it, but would you also happen to have a broken tray that could be raided for parts? See my long post, at the end where I ask about a little plastic part from a tray. MS

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Printer help?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org ---snip--- > >With the help of the service manual (OK, part swapper guide) I figured ---snip--- Hi This is what I meant by worthless. It doesn't even list signals or anything. Nothing like a schematic exist. > >The NX engine has 300 DPI and 600 DPI versions, and the difference is >only in the DC controller board. Every other part is the same, as are >options like the duplexer. Formatter boards would be different too, >not just between HP IIISi and 4Si (which have a bit more significant >differences at the formatter/personality level), but other folks like >DEC who used the NX engine would have had to redesign the formatter >board for the higher resolution when going from NX/300 to NX/600. >But still, it's an interesting thought that all paper handling options, >i.e., the duplexer, high capacity sheet and envelope feeders, etc., >and even the plain paper trays are exactly the same between HP IIISi, >HP 4Si, DEC LPS17, probably others... I wonder if there is a Canon repair manual out there that actually has useful information in it? > >Speaking of paper trays for NX printers, I wonder if anyone here might >have one piffling little plastic part they would be willing to part with. >Do you know the metal plate/bar that goes across the tray near its back >(most protruding) end? That metal plate/bar has two plastic pivots on >its side that hold it in the tray. The right pivot in one of my trays >is broken, but the tray is perfectly fine otherwise. Since it's just >this piffling little plastic part that needs replacement, I really don't >want a whole new tray. It's not a matter of cost, I just don't want >another tray, I want to fix the one I have. The piffling little plastic >part I need has a part number, RB1-1074, it's molded into the plastic >and it's a Canon part number, so it's the same whether it came from Canon >to you through HP or through DEC or however. But no printer parts store >is willing to sell me that piffling little plastic part, they want to >sell me another tray that I don't want. So I wonder, would someone here >happen to have a spare RB1-1074 that I could have? Perhaps from a broken >tray that's broken in another way? TIA, > >MS > You may have to break down and buy a tray from ebay. I have seen a couple of parts trays show up on ebay. You know, missing the top or something. The biggest cost would be the shipping. For other, the IIIsi and 4si are heavy duty printers. Most of the cheaper table top models would not hold up to the kind of use these units will take. They are also quite fast as well. The one I have was used at the company I was previously at as a server printer ( hundreds if not thousands of pages a day ). I don't use it quite that much but it is great to have something that can do heavy work. If I have the information in digital form, it is better than having a copier. Dwight

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Printer help?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org > >der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > >> I had to replace the fuser on mine because I left it on 24/7 while >> printing only occasionally (every few days). The fuser eventually went >> bad under that treatment. > >Hmm, I use mine in the exact same manner, does this mean I'm mistreating >the fuser? I wonder, would the powersave mode help? It turns off the >heater, doesn't it? Right now my printer doesn't go into powersave because >the lower tray is out (see my previous message about looking for a tray >part), but it should work with both trays in. I would really like the >printer to work as a server, even if it's a rarely used one. > >MS > Hi The most common failure of the fuser lamps is not the filament, it is the contacts at the end. They get corroded over time. I've used some of the lower temperature silver solder on the lamp ends and that seems to work fine. I've not done this on the HP yet but I've fix a couple of copiers this way. Still, it is a lamp and they do fail over time. Dwight

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Printer help?

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > I had to replace the fuser on mine because I left it on 24/7 while > printing only occasionally (every few days). The fuser eventually went > bad under that treatment. Hmm, I use mine in the exact same manner, does this mean I'm mistreating the fuser? I wonder, would the powersave mode help? It turns off the heater, doesn't it? Right now my printer doesn't go into powersave because the lower tray is out (see my previous message about looking for a tray part), but it should work with both trays in. I would really like the printer to work as a server, even if it's a rarely used one. MS

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20,046 page doc archive still available

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>> Mr Watzman did not ask, and I would not have given him permission >> to sell the material from bitsavers. >> >> I have asked him not to mention my URL in any of his future >> usenet postings. >> >> For the record, I DO NOT want the material from my site to be sold >> in any form. > >And likewise, what little information I have contributed to bitsavers >is not to be sold. It's to be shared on bitsavers, but I do not >want any money exchanged for anything that I donate. I have Barry's DVD - I find it very useful, and it's the cheapest way for me to get the material (in fact, it's the ONLY way for me to get some of the material). I also see a fair bit of material that I have scanned on it, and I have no trouble with that - in fact I have told Barry to go ahead and use any of my material that he wants. I recently (yesterday) finished all 7 SuperPET manuals (1500+ pages) and I have already contacted Barry to see if he wanted me to send them early (I have a lot of material backed up and probably won't get to a site update for another month) - I expect to see them on the DVD once he gets them, and I also do not expect the price will increase because they were added (think about why that might be). I live in the country where A) there is no high-speed service B) they are not putting in high-speed service, and C) they aren't planning to put in high-speed service in the forseeable future (I ask every couple of months). On a good day, I can get 2k/second download speeds, and I can sometimes keep that up for 20 mins before the connection goes down. [Thats why it takes time to update my site - I have to burn it to CD's and physically take it into the city] Having access to a DVD with gigs of material, a lot of which I will use is well worth what Barry is asking ... For that price, he is buying a good quality DVR-R blank, and spending his own time to burn it and ship it. Not to mention that he has obviously spent some time downloading and organizing the material. If he were charging $100 or $200, I might take offense, however he's charging $35, and frequently publishes the places where those who have the ability can get the material for free (except apparently some people don't want him to let people know where their "free" stuff is - Not sure how that makes sense). $35 buys about 20 mins of my time - I would spend a lot more than that trying to get the material via a modem, which would likely be unsuccessful. I've already extracted several very large files from the DVD that I've been trying to get for some time but have found to be "impossible" due to the size. I doubt he's making any substantial profit at it - in fact, given the amount of material that he himself has scanned and archived, I expect it's cost him lots in time and money over the years (it sure has me!). If he is able to make $5 or $10 a DVD, then I think thats good - it *MIGHT* be enough to keep him doing it, and might even help recover some of his other costs - but as noted above, I doubt he's making any real money from it. Are you willing to take the time to burn and mail DVD's of your "free" material when someone asks? How about if 10 people a week ask? Your position would prevent me from obtaining the material because I cannot download it directly from your site. I am also wondering how you manage restricting your site to only freenet subscribers? - clearly anyone using an ISP is paying for the delivery of your material, and that constitutes "money changing hands". In fact, they are providing delivery of your material strictly as a "for profit" business - they have absolutely no interest in preserving vintage documentation at all. A DVD - reasonably priced for the service it represents is no different - it's just a means of delivery (except in this case it is being done from someone who is active in collecting and preserving the material). Clearly he is not charging for the actual material (otherwise why would he keep telling people where to get it directly - well - at least the sources he's permitted to give out). And yes, I have also purchased Walnut Creek and InfoMagic CD collections which work out to a considerably higher $$ per meg than Barrys offering (and they are mass produced at far less cost than Barry's offering) - because for some people (like me), physical media is the best way to get the material. No: I don't know Barry other than that I have communicated with him a few times regarding documents that I needed or had available. Whew!!! --- nuff said. Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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[GreenKeys] Model 35KSR anyone?? (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

An FYI for the List - I'm not affiliated in any way - and I already have one of these beasties; a nice, solid machine... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:16:17 +0000 From: wa2hwj(a)att.net To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 35KSR anyone?? Greenkeyers, I have a very nice full-size Teletype Model 35KSR available. The typing unit appears to have never been used. Everything works, and the machine has the standard 20 ma. interface. The thing weighs about 150 lbs and shipping won't be cheap...but you know that! I will part with this treasure for $35 and can recommend a shipper. I can send pictures to anyone interested, but you'll have to wait until the weekend (when I'm at a home). Reason for selling: I need the space...for some reason my wife would like to park her car in the garage this winter(!). So, as I move stuff out of the garage and into the radio room, things are getting tight. When a difficult TTY decision has to be made, ASCII goes first! It is being replaced with two TT-4's and a TT-76 (Kleinschmidt's) and a complete AN/GRC-106 HF radio setup. (if you do the math, you'll notice that the newly-added stuff will take up more room than the 35...I said it was getting tight!) If interested, let me know...offer good only to Greenkeyers. If you come to pick up it (near Albany, NY) you might get some other goodies thrown into the deal. Otherwise, off to Ebay. 73, Jack WA2HWJ NNNN _______________________________________________ GreenKeys mailing list GreenKeys(a)mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys

21 years, 6 months

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archive viper rubber roller

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi all - I've used the "norprene tygon tubing" hack to fix my tu-58 drives but now I'm faced with an Archive Viper 1/4" drive with a *seriously* gooey rubber roller... Has anyone gone the route of ordering a replacement part? Or shoud I just try a smaller diameter piece of tygon tubing? :-) I think I'd like a 'real' part if those can be had. Advice? -brad

21 years, 7 months

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Message arrival order?

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I've been receiving messages out of order: I'm seeing the responses well in advance of the original messages. Why would the list software do that? - John

21 years, 7 months

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who can identify this vintage card - "DAD-48" ?

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I have a mystery card to identify within a pile of miscellaneous cards acquired recently. On the card is printed "DAD-48 Computer Dynamics, Inc. 1985." The cable jack is a 50-pin female. I am having trouble locating specifics on the web, and I have looked everywhere. Where might one use this card? Is it PCI SCSI? A picture is worth a thousand words. Here is a page I put up with some pictures http://vintagecomputer.net/dad-48/ Thanks in advance. Bill Wilmington, Delaware vintagecomptuer.net

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11/23 or 11/03 picture of DEC/PDP logo

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 3 2004, 1:07, Wai-Sun Chia wrote: > Hmmm...my BA11-N (11/03L) was resprayed evidently as there are paint > oversprays to the control panel area (the toggle switches), but I didn't > know that the BA11-N front was actually in a single plain color.. > > I know that the BA11-M (11/03) has a nice DEC/PDP logo with color, and > the BA11-S (11/23) also, so I assumed that the BA11-N has too.. Well, that's odd, because none of the ones I've ever seen are anything but grey! Mine are all plain grey, no colour, as are the three I've sold or given away in the last five years. All the ones I used to service when I worked for a TPM company were plain grey too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

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on topic: my website (gak!)

by tomj＠wps.com

For over a year now, my (and a few thousand others) website is on-topic for the CC lists. I don't have a copy of my 1993 website, but it's close to the copy I have from April 1994: http://wps.com/archives/wps.com.11Apr1994/ (The content is, let's say, a bit rough, in more than one way at a time, but So It Goes. I do find my obsession with file size amusing though, but this was a 16K bits/sec "nailup" SLIP connection to the Little Garden. Alas, the gopher server [remember when gopher was the killer net app after email?] was taken down by 1995. The 'about wps' link describes the hardware & software, in use Jan 1994, which seems today much todo about nothing.) http://wps.com/archives/wps.com.21Oct1996/ others in the index

21 years, 7 months

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Printer help?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi der Mouse I have a IIIsi that I fiddle with every now and then. I also have an official service manual ( not much help for anything ). I suspect that they think that anyone working on one of these would be factory trained. Other than the occational cleaning and a problem with the last toner/drum assembly, mine works well. The only major failure I've had is the input card failed. ( a bummer since it was one of the harder to get parallel/serial cards and not the easy to get ethernet cards ). I've gotten some aftermarket RAM and put rediculously large amounts of RAM in it. It also has Postscript, a duplexer ( I got from ebay ) and an envelope feeder ( also from ebay ). Smoke is a bad sign. Good luck. Dwight PS While in the service, I had the nickname of "Mouse". It was because anytime anyone with gold braid on their cap would enter an area that I was in, I'd find a piece of equipment to hide behind. It was noted that I was like a mouse. Dwight >From: "der Mouse" <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> > >Does the collective list wisdom include repair hints for an HP LaserJet >IIISi? I have one. Yesterday, I turned it on, same as a zillion times >before, and it didn't come up normally; it was making an odd ticking >noise. I went to see what was up and smelled that unpleasant smell >that usually means the magic smoke has been let out of something. I >turned it off immediately and have been spending the last hour or so >trying to figure out how to disassemble it to find out what's fried >(and try to estimate how user-replaceable it may be). > >But it's being difficult, and my replacement capabilities tend to >operate at a coarser FRU grain than, say, Tony's :-); service doc would >help (even if only the kind Tony not entirely unjustly calls just a >boardswapping guide - it'd still help with things like mechanical >disassembly). Someone with experience with the things would help even >more, of course, but I can't really expect to be that lucky. > >I'm still working on pulling it apart to find out what let out that >unpleasant smell.... > >/~\ The ASCII der Mouse >\ / Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca >/ \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B >

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HP Repair parts needed (urgently...)

by MGemeny＠pgcps.org

I should have a spare or two. But this is just not the time of year for me to find them and get them shipped. Too busy with the Haunted House. Can it wait until November? Mike Gemeny.

21 years, 7 months

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Runout vs. Flatness and Dial test indicators

by kevintct＠streamyx.com

just would like to enquire.. Is the DTI reading for run-out the difference between the high and low limits or is it the average of the difference

21 years, 7 months

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TV alert -- more info

by evan947＠yahoo.com

http://www.pbs.org/kcts/videogamerevolution/

21 years, 7 months

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TQK70 configuration

by phirkel＠sympatico.ca

Hello (again!). I'm very pleased with my VAX 4000/300 thus far, but I'm about to get a KZQSA card from someone, and I need to move my TQK70 controller over on the Q-bus so that the KZQSA card can fit into the machine. However, when I did a test run of this, the card was responding (show dev showed the card), but it wouldn't find the TK70 tape drive attached to the TQK70. Is there a jumper I have to set? Or did I screw up in some other way? Thanks. Phil.

21 years, 7 months

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Cromemco docs needed

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I'm looking for a copy of the docs for the Cromemco Dazzler video board. If anyone has this, either paper or electronic, please let me know. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

21 years, 7 months

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Heathkit ETA-3400 Modifications

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

I was sent a set of GOOD scans of the ET-3400 mods and have created a PDF file. It's now on the classic computer documentation DVD that I'm selling, but also I've asked Howard Harte to post it to his site, so hopefully everyone will be able to download it from there soon (perhaps by tomorrow (Thursday, 9/9)). I'm willing to scan any LOOSE (unbound) manuals and produce high-quality PDF files, I have a high-end 2400 dpi scanner with an ADF (sheet feeder) that can do over 200 page per hour (of double sided-material) unattended. Contact me if you think that you might have something not in the collection. Originals (or copies) can be returned. Bound documents are much, much more difficult, although I've done more than a few. Barry Watzman Watzman(a)neo.rr.com

21 years, 7 months

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who can identify this vintage card - "DAD-48" ?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "B.Degnan" <billdeg(a)degnanco.com> > >I have a mystery card to identify within a pile of miscellaneous cards >acquired recently. On the card is printed "DAD-48 Computer Dynamics, Inc. >1985." The cable jack is a 50-pin female. I am having trouble locating >specifics on the web, and I have looked everywhere. Where might one use >this card? Is it PCI SCSI? > >A picture is worth a thousand words. Here is a page I put up with some >pictures >http://vintagecomputer.net/dad-48/ > >Thanks in advance. > >Bill >Wilmington, Delaware >vintagecomptuer.net > > > Hi Bill Looking at the parts on the board, it is a multi channel A/D board. It looks like a Standard Bus but I think there should only be 50 pins. The TSC 800 is a dual slop A/D ( slow but very good resolution ). The AD667's are analog somethings by Analog Devices. They might be D/A's or analog swithces. It looks like there is a bunch of input amplifiers. This could be for anything from a simple A/D to a temperature measurement board. Anyway, it is definitely and analog interface board. Dwight

21 years, 7 months

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Vintage hardware in Los Alamos NM

by news＠computercollector.com

What's the web site?

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 8 2004, 15:13, Tom Jennings wrote: > How about, 'type you name here' and it spits out paper tape with it > punched as text? (I have C code for this). Paper tape is cheap even > today, as you'd only need a foot or two per visitor. I was going to add that but ran out of tinme, when I... > (And if the tape had their name also coded as machine-readable, you > could use it as a 'ticket' for other displays or activities...) ... wrote a short piece of PDP-8 assembler to do that on the ASR33 for my nieces. Several of the visitors who have seen my PDPs have asked for a bit of tape with something punched on it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

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11/23 or 11/03 picture of DEC/PDP logo

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 17:57, Megan wrote: > >> BA11-M (11/03) DEC/PDP logo in glorious DEC maroon: > >> http://hampage.hu/pdp-11/kepek/pdp1103.jpg > > >That doesn't look original to me. > > It is... but a later version of the panel. You can tell by > the inset screws at the ends of the panel. I also have one > in storage at the moment... I stand corrected :-) I've only seen one of those panels with the screws before, and it was plain grey. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

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Cool book

by vcf＠siconic.com

Say, I found a mighty swell book today at the local ham swap. Title: The "Compulator" Book - Building Super Calculators & Minicomputer Hardware with Calculator Chips (How to mate the COMPuter with the calcULATOR) by R. P. Haviland. Several copies are available on ABE, Alibris, etc. NeAt-O! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Interactive displays was Re: Cool book

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Cameron Kaiser Wrote > You are a sick person Sellam. I see you have already > had a good swig of that Hg. > > Just wait until the t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-tremours start. > I think he has the mad hatter syndrome. Reference From http://www.hgtech.com/Information/Mad%20Hatter.htm /begin reference Hatters really did go mad. The chemicals used in hat-making included mercurous nitrate, used in curing felt. Prolonged exposure to the mercury vapors caused mercury poisoning. Victims developed severe and uncontrollable muscular tremors and twitching limbs, called "hatter's shakes"; other symptoms included distorted vision and confused speech. Advanced cases developed hallucinations and other psychotic symptoms. The popular top hat of the time were made from beaver fur, but cheaper ones used furs such as rabbit instead. A complicated set of processes was needed to turn the fur into a finished hat. With the cheaper sorts of fur, one step was to brush a solution of mercurous nitrate on to the fur to roughen the fibres and make them mat more easily, a process called carroting because it made the fur turn orange. Beaver fur had natural serrated edges that made this unnecessary, one reason why it was preferred, but the cost and scarcity of beaver meant that other furs had to be used. Whatever the source of the fur, the fibres were then shaved off the skin and turned into felt; this was later immersed in a boiling acid solution to thicken and harden it. The acid treatment decomposed the mercurous nitrate to elemental mercury. Finishing processes included steaming the hat to shape and ironing it. In all these steps, hatters working in poorly ventilated workshops would breathe in mercury vapor. /end reference Haven't we all heard about putting on your thinking hat to solve a problem. Aren't computers just big problem solvers, so by induction a thinking hat is just a computer. Personally I hope my wife thinks I'm just "eccentric", not mad. I tell her it's better that I collect computers instead of wild women, drugs, gambling, cars, guns, horses, and speeding tickets. Mike

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survived another one!

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Dave Mabry" <dmabry(a)mich.com> > >Joe R. wrote: > >snip > > >> >> I'd already pulled the most usefull boards and stored them inside. The >> remainder of the boards, CRTs, PSUs MIGHT eventually be usefull but I >> should already have all the parts that I'll ever need. I currently have >> eight fully operable MDS-800, two operable and one non-op MDS-2xxs and lots >> of spare parts. I don't really have the room to store the remaining >> chassis. That's why they're sitting outside. >> >> Joe >> >> > >EIGHT!!!! Damn, you are a hoarder! I can store one of those in a dry >environment for you. ;) Hi Now be nice Dave. You know you might need one of those boards some day. Joe is a great resources. Dwight

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Message arrival order?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> > >On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 12:02 -0500, John Foust wrote: >> I've been receiving messages out of order: I'm seeing >> the responses well in advance of the original messages. >> Why would the list software do that? > >Same here, just in the last few days though. Didn't Jay mention a disk >crash a week or so ago? Maybe things are just clogged trying to catch up >since then and it'll all gradually sort itself out. > >cheers, > >Jules > > Hi There are all kinds of variable delays in messages on the web. Even though, one message might go the fast way, another might take a more roundabout method. There is any number of reasons that they might arrive out of order is they were sent close in time. Dwight

21 years, 7 months

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Econet for an RML380Z?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Has anyone ever seen (or heard of) an RML380Z with Econet network support (rather than the usual coaxial that RML used for its CHAIN network)? I picked up an SJ Research MDFS Econet fileserver the other day which I'll have running at the museum. However, the docs at one point (and one point only, it seems so far) mention RML380Z fileservers and 380Z machines with Econet. (I've got an RML380Z fileserver, but naturally it has a CHAIN network board and not Econet!) As I collect Torch, Acorn and RML stuff (and Torchnet is at least electrically compatible with Acorn's Econet) it's of particular interest as it implies one day I might be able to connect machines from all three manufacturers. I've never seen mention of Econet support in any of RML's documentation though, so have a feeling it was maybe a product that never saw the light of day... cheers Jules

21 years, 7 months

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CD Shredder

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Now here is something I like the looks of. At only $130, I'm really tempted to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I thought others here might be interested in as well. http://www.primera.com/ds360_disc_shredder.html Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any meritwhatso

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net> > >"Pure >mercury sulphide used to be used as vermilion pigment (which may >explain something about some artists)". > >Yes... other pigments got them too! but in the case of old 'one ear >Vincent you also can mix in syphilis and also drinking absinth ( had word >wood in it goggle this for more info). > >the painters life was full of toxins and infection! Hi Also lead for whites and cadmium for yellows. I'm sure the list goes on. Dwight

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ibm aptiva for parts

by Lvchld1979＠aol.com

how much for the power supply?

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any meritwhatsoever

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Joe R. wrote: > >> Speaking of that. A few years ago they had a plastic bottle of mercury >> sitting over at the surplus disposal at Patrik AFB (part of Kennedy Space >> Center). The bottle had been sitting for a long time and gotten brittle. >> Someone tried to pick it up and it shattered and spilled mercury >> everywhere. They made everyone stay exactly where they were and called the >> haz mat crew. They came and made everyone strip, yeah, naked! Male and >> female. And then made them walk out into the parking lot where they sprayed >> them down with firehoses (in front of the rapidly gathering crowd!) So >> this is what you have to look forward to Sellam! > >Excellent! I'll be sure to invite over the Swedish Bikini Team before I >spill any. > >Tickets to the spectacle will go sale shortly. > Hi I suspect the hazmat team over reacted just a little. Mercury in elemental form is not all that dangerous ( or most of us old timers would be dead or vegetables by now ). It is most dangerous as salts or as long term exposure to vapor. We had a diffusion pump fracture in a lab once with mercury in it. It did require that we had to remove the linoleum flooring but we didn't all strip and hose ourselves down. That is just plain silly. This is typical over/under reaction of today's world on hazardous materials. We fail to put things into perspective. We also fail to consider all of the consequences of the choices we make as well. Look at how we handle asbestos. Look at how California handled MTBE. Look at how people see using hydrogen to fuel cars. The list goes on. Dwight

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 22:52, ed sharpe wrote: > Pete: are we going to actually spin this drive up after bereakeing the seal > on it? I thought bad things would happen....... ed Of course you're going to spin it up. Drives are surprisingly tough. I've run drives with the cover off several times. To avoid a head crash, avoid dust. If you think the air might be dusty, disable the head movement and let it spin for a while to move any remaining dust out of the way -- winchesters have a small internal filter which filters the air as it is dragged round by the platters. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Simh on Gameboy

by rachael＠rachael.dyndns.org

>from Slashdot, http://www.kernelthread.com/publications/gbaunix/ someone has ported pdp11 from sihm to run on a gameboy advanced with unix v5 -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: rachael(a)rachael.dyndns.org url: http://rachael.dyndns.org fido: 2:237/38.8

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Classic computers FREE to a good home!

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Sorry for the public post, that was supposed to be a private reply Paxton Astoria, OR

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by jbmcb＠hotmail.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: *** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays.... >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:29:32 +0100 (BST) <SNIP> > > While I have not been following every message in this thread..It seems >like > > a replica might be the best way to go. Could definitely "play some >games" to > >NO!!!! > >Sorry, but I object to technical museums that present replicas (and >emulators hidden inside the case of an older machine, and...) as the real >thing. You would not accept an art gallery that showed copies of the >famous paintings, you shouldn't accept it for computers either. > >If I go to a museum it's because I want to see the real machine -- one I >don't happen to already have. I don't want to see a fake. > >-tony I mostly agree. Technical museums shouldn't play games with "fake" hardware. Demonstrating said hardware is another matter. It would be really cool to sit at the console of a Univac and run some calculations on it, watch the power meters twitch as the accumulators spin. Maybe run the infamous election prediction algorithm :) Running an actual Univac, however, would be cost prohibitive, in electricity alone if not in maintanance. Get a Univac all set up, maybe with just enough B+ to get some of the heater elements lit up for show, complete and in working order, mind you. But if people want to play with one have an accurate simulator set up, driven by a PDP11 or Palm Pilot or something equally humorous. It would clearly be marked as a simulator, but you'd get the full effect of operating a Univac. Maybe even have it blow a tube now and then :) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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"Error: sysboot not found"

by sab＠freemail.ru

Hello, Aro Hirohi I found your message releted to sysboot problems at Apollo DN5500 . here it is ____________________________ I am trying to salvage a nice Apollo DN5500 server. Unfortunately I had to swap the original Maxtor ESDI 760 HD - it makes a clunky noise - for a lower capacity Micropolis and I have some difficulties to reinstall DomainOS software. The system starts under service mode. It can read a bootable tape and install the mini DomainOS software but it cannot boot DomainOS directly from the hard disk ... it dies with an "Error: sysboot not found" What I've done ... in service mode, with a 10.3.4 boot tape inserted, > re > di c > ex config, ex calendar, ex invol ... to enter the new hd configuration, setup date/time and format hd then ... > ex domain_os ... does a lot of shoeshinning, copy base OS from tape to hd and says that sysboot is found and skipped ... ) go ... goes to HP logo and login or ) sh runs a text shell ... I was delighted ... but now if I shutdown and reboot the system in normal mode, it passes the tests ok but fails to start the base OS complaining about "sysboot not found". Same result in service mode if I do a > re and > ex domain_os. Considering that it boots fine from a tape, I assume that the sysboot is not a eprom program and that it has been erased by formatting the drive. Does anybody know how to install the sysboot. Does it have anything to do with the 40KB file copied from the tape to //nodeXXX/sysboot on the hard disk? Kind regards, Aro http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-December/023001.html ______________________________ I have the same problems now. Did you solved your ones ? If yes - may i ask you how you did it ??? Thank you. Al.

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any merit whatsoever

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 12:40, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Vintage Computer Festival > <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > > > > I've got some quicksilver that I liberated from some evacuated glass tubes > > by cracking the tips of the tubes and then emptying the contents into a > > container. Unfortunately, some tiny glass shards got into the container > > and is now mixed in. How can I filter out the glass shards so they don't > > cut up my esophagus when I drink it? > I'm guessing you haven't got an electron microscope and and a very > small pair of tweezers..... I'm surprised nobody has thought of the obvious: mercury is considerably denser than glass, so the glass would float on the surface. All you have to do is skim it. Never mind skimmed milk, Sellam, you can have skimmed quicksilver ;-) A more interesting way would be to use some other metal to make an amalgam, leaving the glass behind, and then recover the mercury from the amalgam. Sodium's good. If you put sodium amalgam in water, it will decompose into nicely fizzy caustic soda solution and pure mercury, giving off hydrogen, which "burns rather readily". The usual method of filtering mercury is to use a small folded filter paper, with a very small hole torn in the point of the cone. The mercury will run through the small hole, but most of the rubbish, which floats on the top, will stay behind. You usually need to do this a couple of times. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi David;; I had at one time over 20 of those classic radios when I was a kid. Now I only have one, a Stennite. I too have slipped to collecting classic computers and using a PC. I am in Astoria, Oregon, USA and could come up and pick up the lot in Victoria, BC. I am particularly interested in the IMS and the Soroc and would pass any of the ones I wasn't interested in on to other collectors. I have had a couple of Northstar Advantages but never a Polymorphic. I would bring a Toyota Van. How soon do you need to move them? Paxton Hoag Astoria, Oregon

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Fwd: survived another one!

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Glad to hear that you're still with us Joe! So, how 'bout them hurricanes ;P ? By the way, you wouldn't happen to know how bad (or good) NHC did with the forecast? I'm only asking because I work over at JTWC (Joint Typhoon Warning Center) here in Pearl Harbor, and we just love to make fun of those guys over there. It's funny that they say they're busy over there when there are only two storms. 2+ storms are the norm for us! And we don't get an "off" season (don't forget about the southern hemisphere!). Yeah, it seems like Florida, Taiwan, the Philippines & Korea are just bad places to live this year. ----- Original message ----- From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:16:30 -0400 Subject: survived another one! Second hurricane in three weeks!! Just got power back after hurricane Frances. This one was HUGE!!!! It reached from the FIorida Keys to Atlanta Ga! It started raining here Friday. HEAVY rain and winds all day Saturday and Sunday. More rain Monday (and a curfew in effect). Today (1:30 PM Tuesday) some rain bands are still passing through. Three tornadoes in this area yesterday and another today. The worst of the storm was south of us this time and everything around here that could be blown down was already down due to Charlie so now as much damage this time but HUGE amounts of rain. I set my canoe outside last week and it was FILLED completely full of rain by Friday night. Luckily Florida is flat so rain doesn't concentrate much. NOW it looks like we're in the path of Hurricane Ivan!!! It's scheduled to be in this area about Sunday or Monday. UnF***ING believable! joe

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 8:32, ed sharpe wrote: > yes.... the visual of seeing the heads seek in and out.... I suppose you > could pared the heads so they do not land and do not even hardly spin the > thing up just make the heads seek...... The large Fujitsu SMD drives (smaller capacity than an Eagle, but about the same physical size, 14" platters) have perspex HDA covers, and you can see the heads moving quite well. I have an M2284 like that. Of course, you can do it with a 5.25" winchester or even a 3.5" one as well, if it's the type that has a flat top cover (note that some Seagate 3.5" drives have a flat *baseplate* to which all the gubbins are mounted -- it looks like just a cover, but it isn't). Just take off the cover, and use it as a template to cut out and drill a perspex replacement. Or even cover it with clingwrap (saran wrap, I think you colonists call it), but keep people's fingers away from it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any merit whatsoever

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've got some quicksilver that I liberated from some evacuated glass tubes by cracking the tips of the tubes and then emptying the contents into a container. Unfortunately, some tiny glass shards got into the container and is now mixed in. How can I filter out the glass shards so they don't cut up my esophagus when I drink it? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Atari to release "new" hardware - the 7800!

by cbajpai＠comcast.net

For those of you who were at VCF/East and saw the talk from the developers of the Atari 7800..while they may have been disappointed the 7800 wasn't smash hit in ~1985.it may be in 2005! Atari (Infogrames) is releasing a miniaturized 7800. I wonder if any of the original developers will see any cash from their efforts 20 years ago. -Chandra Atari to Reissue Scores of Old Games By ANTHONY BREZNICAN AP Entertainment Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Atari wants to take you back in time, and to get there, you can ride a "Centipede" or an "Asteroid," or bounce back and forth between the pixilated paddles of "Pong." The video game company told The Associated Press on Tuesday it plans to reissue scores of its classic titles from yesteryear on a single disc that can be played on the game consoles Xbox and PlayStation 2. "Atari Anthology" will feature 85 games and is scheduled to go on sale in November at a cost of about $20. But it's only one of the nostalgia projects Atari will push into the market then. The second is Atari Flashback, a slightly miniaturized version of the old Atari 7800 from the mid-'80s. It will have 20 games built into it, including "Breakout," "Solaris," "Crystal Castles" and "Battlezone." Flashback will sell for $45 and include a pair of old-school joysticks. Atari isn't expecting its decades-old games to compete on a technical level, like "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," "Halo" and "Madden NFL 2005" that feature colorful realistic graphics, fast-moving 3-D action and the freedom to roam at will. Instead, the company is aiming at the nostalgia market. "It's a time machine. You go back to your childhood and you play," Atari chief executive Bruno Bonnell said. And for gamers who weren't even born when the first PlayStation appeared? "The kids will think this is quick, this is fast to understand, and we don't need a manual to understand it," he added. "We're going after two generations." Even "Pong," perhaps the most primitive of the games with its simple white square bouncing across the screen, may still have some appeal. "The more primitive the better. It shows that video games are not just about high-end graphics or sophisticated representation. It's about the game-play, the challenge to the player," Bonnell said. The "Atari Anthology" disc will offer new twists on the games, too: "trippy mode," which renders the graphics in psychedelic colors, and "time warp" and "double speed," which can alter the pace of on-screen action. Besides its array of classic Atari 2600 and 7800 titles, the Atari Flashback console will include one previously unreleased game: "Saboteur." Reissuing classic games in the modern consoles has become common over the years. "Sonic the Hedgehog" and its sequels from the early 1990s turned up on Nintendo's GameCube, and the old martial-arts challenge "Street Fighter" series returned on PlayStation 2. But those titles still look like science-fiction dreaming compared to the jumping dots and boxes of the old Atari games. Still, there is a market for even those old games, and the Internet proves it: Countless sites offer free downloads of the programs for playing on PCs - leading to rampant bootlegging. But Bonnell downplayed the impact bootlegging could have on sales for "Atari Anthology" and the Atari Flashback console. "You're right to say that a lot of them are bootlegged, and the code is not the right code, and the color is not the right color. But here we're offering them ... and you don't go through collecting the games on the Internet and being scared of the viruses that are going to pollute your computer at some point." Despite their simple appearance, the games can be very difficult, he added - especially for people who are two decades out of practice. "They are not easy to master," Bonnell said. "Some people believe that because they are old games they will finish them very soon. But I think people will be sweating to finish."

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SCO Open Desktop 1.0.1 stuff available

by mikes＠m5systems.net

Are these items still available?? Thanks Michael Seidner M5 Systems 602-288-8304 http://www.m5systems.net

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Classic computers FREE to a good home!

by dnr＠horizon.bc.ca

Hi! I'm new to this list, so please humour me. When I was a young lad, my dad, who was in the Radio business from 1925 onwards, lamented the loss of hundreds, if not thousands of classic radios. During the depression years, they robbed the old ones for parts and burned those beautiful wood cabinets for heat. With this in mind, I have kept/collected several old computers... all from the pre-Apple era. These include an IMS system (w/5mb HD!), 2 North*Star Horizon's, and (I may keep this last one) a Polymorphic 88. Terminals are by Morrow, a Lear-Siegler ADM-3A, a Cybernex L46006 and a Soroc-IQ-120. I even have and early Compaq luggable. The POLY-88 and the two N*S Horizons were my own machines. Now, sadly, I use an up to date PC. BTW: The Poly-88 is fitted out with dual N*Star floppies, but I do have the original serial cassette interface card! Now, I am moving and can no longer afford the space, so I wish to give them away - to someone who will appreciate them. They're too good to take to the dump. All were working when taken out of service... all have been stored indoors, and dry. All in very good nick. I have most of the diskettes (mostly 5 1/4" sizes) and original documentation. I also have a large box of spare S-100 memory and I/O cards (Even a clock/calendar on an S-100 board!) and various spare drives - in both 48 track SS & DS and 96 track DS - hard sector. Also have (if I can find it) a copy of McDos which grafted 96tpi floppies onto N*S Horizon disk systems. I think I may even have a printout of the source code for it! (No guarantees on that one!) I also have some old Borland publications and some original CPM documentation. Sadly, too much to keep and move. :( Ah! I hear you say... what is the catch? And, yes, there is one... and it's a biggie! I am in Victoria, B.C., and am not in a position to pack and ship. So, this offer is really only good for someone in Western Canada or the North West USA, who is willing to drive over and collect the stuff. The second catch is that its available only as one lot. Sorry, no time to get involved with 6 people who each want different bits. If you're interested, please reply off list, please. Many thanks. ---------- David Young, | ?galit?, libert?, Victoria, CANADA | fraternit? et Beaujolais. Personal Web-site at: http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr Leica Reflex Forum web-page: http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr/lrflex.htm

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xenix

by schoenfeldephraim＠yahoo.com

Hi I am trying to locate XENIX install disks would you know where to look ? I am helping a friend get a cnc machine up something made by cybermation Any help would greatly appreciated Regards Ephraim Schoenfeld _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

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Heathkit ETA-3400 Modifications

by jec＠jcosper.com

>Heathkit Manual for the Memory and Input/Output Accessory for the ET-3400 >Trainer, Model ETA-3400, part number 595-2271, copyright date 1979, 95 >pages. > > If anyone has the manual (not sure of its exact title) describing the >modifications necessary to connect an ETA-3400 to an ET-3400, please email >me on or off-list. > > Paul Pennington > Augusta, Georgia > Greetings, Here is a list of the manuals I have: Microprocessor Trainer ET-3400 part number 595-2021-06, copyright date 1977 113 Pages + 3 set Foldout + "price list 10/20/80". Memory and Input/Output Accessory for the ET-3400 part number 595-2271-01, copyright date 1979 95 pages. Memory Input/Output Accessory ETA-3400 (Assembly) part number 595-2170-03, copyright date 1979 57 Pages. + 1 set Foldout. Modification Kit for the Heathkit ET/ETW-3400 and 3400A Microprocessor Trainers Model ETA-3400/EWA-3400. part number 597-1954-02, copyright ???? 21 Pages. I can scan these if there is interest in them. Later, James.

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Heathkit ETA-3400 Modifications

by paulpenn＠knology.net

We join this program already in progress: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Rubin" <jack.rubin(a)ameritech.net> To: "'Paul A. Pennington'" <paulpenn(a)knology.net> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Heath ETA-3400 manual > Paul, > > Just to clarify, I dug out my ETA-3400 Assembly manual (595-2170) this > morning. The last paragraph on p. 39 states: > > "This completes the 'Initial Tests' of your Memory I/O Accessory. Set > the Memory I/O Accessory aside and proceed to the ET-3400 Trainer > Modification Kit. Then return to the 'Final Assembly and Operational > Tests' in this Manual." > > The contents and implementation of the Modification Kit are the big > mystery here, especially since it's not called out in the parts list. > I'm also lacking the pictorial booklet (large foldout) for the ETA-3400; > maybe it's covered there. If you have the pictorial booklet, I'd sure > appreciate a copy next time you go to Kinko's (hopefully they can handle > the oversize pages). > > Jack Paul wrote: >> For example, I just picked up a Heathkit >> ETA-3400 expansion box for my ET-3400, a Motorola 6800 >> trainer. I got some of the manuals with it but I'm missing >> others. I need the instructions for modifying the ET-3400 >> Trainer to attach the ETA-3400 Expansion, for one. Jack again: > If you find that manual, I know several folks who would be interested in > it - especially the pictorial section! My understanding is that the > "Heathkit" people are only selling copies of the old manuals and I don't > know if they provide the foldouts. I haven't purchased directly from > them - I came close on some of the H8/H89 stuff but ended up finding > "real" manuals for everything I needed, except the ET-3400 mods. I have > a siamesed unit (trainer + expansion) so I suppose we could swap a few > pix and reversed engineer the connection without too much trouble if you > can't find the manual. > > Jack

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Keyboards & Conductive Rubber

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Hi Guys, I'm trying to revive a keyboard (integrated into a vintage computer so it's kinda important) - this is the kind where there's a PCB with lots of "pads" in the scanning matrix, and the keys push a little pad of "conductive rubber" down onto the PCB pads to make the connection. Several of the keys on this keyboard require excessive pressure to make contact - I've tried cleaning the pads, and (gently) the surface of the rubber, however it appears that the rubber has increased in resistance. The good keys measure 200-300 ohms from one end of the conductive rubber pad to the other with only mild pressure - the bad keys measure 5k-10k unless you really squeeze them - under pressure they drop to 1k - 2k, which appears to be barely enough to trigger a detection. Anyone know what the failure mode is? I though perhaps the rubber bits had cracked, however this does not appear to be the case. Anyone have any tips/tricks to fix this problem? Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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20,046 page doc archive still available

by aek＠spies.com

Are people downloading things from bitsavers and selling them for a profit? -- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74946&item=5120677046 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=163&item=5117657361 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=163&item=5117657564 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=163&item=5117657045 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4619&item=3695381778 and thanks to the last four, I've had a few dozen people trying to Wget the whole IBM section of the archive.

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HP Repair parts needed (urgently...)

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >Joe R. said that he had some in response to a query I posted some time ago. >He never found them I guess. I'm still looking for a couple, exact same part >as you are. Then again, I'm sure he's got his hands full these days. If you >find a source for these Bob, please let me know! > >Jay > > Hi How are these parts made. Is it something in plastic that can be molded. If so, someone should get some mold material and make a mold before the last one is broken. Dwight

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