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bit-widths, was Re: HP Laserjet ..again....

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

Don Lancaster's Decimal Counting Unit (1968) also used a bi-quinary circuit. http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/PopularElectronics/Feb1968/Feb_1968_PE.htm Michael (top post) Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 07:26, Paul Koning wrote: > > > That doesn't sound right; a Nixie has 10 wires, one per digit, plus a > > common wire. > > See below, scroll down to the bottom! > > http://wps.com/archives/tube-datasheets/Datasheets/Burroughs-catalog-918A/8… >

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Just curious how many of you still uses good-ole classic analog >> modem technology daily

by sml49＠comcast.net

How about this: I work as an in-house medical consultant to the health-fraud operation of a major US computer-services company (no names but Ross Perot used to own it...) and because I'm a consultant and not an employee (one day a week for three years now) I am refused access to the company network - so I work on an old iMac I restored and leave at that location, and I access the web via dialup using my daughter's Earthlink account. The internal phone network there must be noisy; all I can get is maybe 24K. Not fun. Used to do it on a PB 3400 but someone tossed the iMac at the local town dump and I adopted it - so now I can leave the even-older PB at home where it runs a SCSI scanner. Seth Lewin > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <a05210610bd78b4ee37c0(a)[129.162.152.69]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > At 12:00 -0500 9/11/04, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: >> p.s. Just curious how many of you still uses good-ole classic analog >> modem technology daily? > > Yo. (And that has nothing to do with how late this response is :-) .) > > Ethernet at the office, but analog modem at home. Not audio, the > phone cable plugs straight into the modem board on the PowerBook > 3400, which admittedly isn't on topic...

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archiving as opposed to backing up

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb(a)deltasoft.com> > >On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Michael Sokolov wrote: >> >> > Teo Zenios <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Scientists think an asteroid, comet, or meteorite cause the Tunguska >> > > explosion in Russia in the early 20th century that behaved just like a >> > > nuclear bomb does today (intense energy, heatwave, shockwave, radiation). >> > >> > This is not what happened. Lyn Buchanan, a very good remote viewer >> > whom I know fairly well, has told the real story in his book The Seventh >> > Sense: >> >> That's total and complete bullshit. I know this for a fact because it was >> *I* who caused the explosion, not a silly spaceship! >> >> I hate people trying to take credit for my deeds. Pfeh! >> > >Hey Sellam, where's your monocle and white persian cat? You can't take >over the world without 'em ya know. > >g. > > > Hi A famous man once said, "Your out on the plains of Wyoming and you hear hoof sounds. You probably shouldn't think zebras." ( I may have got the quote a little off but the sentiment is correct. ) Dwight

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by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Teo Zenios <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: > Scientists think an asteroid, comet, or meteorite cause the Tunguska > explosion in Russia in the early 20th century that behaved just like a > nuclear bomb does today (intense energy, heatwave, shockwave, radiation). This is not what happened. Lyn Buchanan, a very good remote viewer whom I know fairly well, has told the real story in his book The Seventh Sense: -- quote from the book: -- Once I was given a set of coordinates by Ted, who has been mentioned before in this book. Ted is a rabid UFO fanatic, and liked to sneak UFO targets into our tasking now and then. This was forbidden, but he sometimes did it anyway. I thought that the target on this particular day was an operational target and was not expecting an ET target. I accessed the site and found a pilot flying an aircraft. I saw that he was worried about something. Still a fairly novice viewer at the time, I rushed in and accessed the pilot's mind to find out what was worrying him. The pilot and all his passengers had been members of an extremely oppressive culture. They had rebelled against their government, but to no avail. The political leaders of that culture had given them the choice of dying or being allowed to leave and never return. They had elected to leave. They had been provided with the aircraft and allowed to leave without incident. But now that the pilot had found a place to land so they could start a new home for themselves, he realized that something was wrong with the aircraft. It had been fixed to self-destruct as soon as it tried to land anywhere. Someone in the oppressive regime had not been satisfied just to let them go. He wanted to kill them all. The pilot realized the problem, but could find nothing to do about it. He had called his wife and children into the cockpit to watch the landing, fully aware that they would probably die before the aircraft could land. I gave myself a move command to the problem, and found that it was a device that the saboteur had placed within the pilot's range of sight, but out of the pilot's reach. He sadistically wanted the pilot to know and understand before death what had been done to these freedom-seeking refugees and their families. The pilot tried everything he could think of to procure a safe landing. He went around the world several times (this was my first in-session clue that it was possibly an ET target). Going back up was out of the question, for some reason that I did not investigate because I was getting so sucked into the pilot and his panic. Now, every life on the ship depended on our skill and our creative ability to solve the problem. We finally figured out a way to bring the ship in for a landing. We hoped to be able to land on a mountain top that would be high enough to keep the explosive device from detonating. As we made final preparations for the landing, we turned to our family and assured them of our love, then got back to the job at hand. A moment later, the ship exploded in a great ball of fiery debris. Once I had gotten sucked into him, it was my family, too. I loved them and ached for them. I felt responsible for their lives and knew that my political actions and beliefs and my desire that they have freedom had caused this situation to exist. In the last moments of their lives, I realized how much they had suffered for my beliefs, and I blamed myself for their dying. Everyone I loved and cared about was to die, and it was my fault. When the ship exploded, I was thrown violently out of the session, and even fell out of the chair in which I had been sitting to do the viewing. I found out later that my task had been to find out what caused the Tunguska explosion, which flattened thousands of acres of land in southeastern Siberia, on June 30, 1908. [...] But, at the time of that particular session, I had no way of detoxing >from the target. For almost two months after that session, no one in the office or at home dared to talk to me about any political subject or anything the government was doing. I became so violently opposed to any form of organized government and the oppression it wields that several times I became physically violent, just at the mention of any political subject. I could not listen to the news on the way to work or back home. I could not watch the news on TV for fear of getting so enraged that I was ready to yell and scream and throw things. Over the next two months or so, it slowly wore off, and I could again function normally. But to be totally honest, I found out about two years later, after I had developed the protocols for detoxification, that I still needed to detoxify from that session. I was still harboring very deep and angry resentment toward organized governments of any form, all because of the evil that had been done to the people and family "we" (the pilot and I) loved and cared about so dearly. -- end of quote -- To add a personal note to this story, even though I'm not a remote viewer (yet) and I have never accessed anyone else's mind, that is exactly how *I* feel about the government. Maybe I was that pilot in my previous life? Death in 1908, a little break, reincarnation in 1979, who knows, might be. MS

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PeeCee Text

by cb＠mythtech.net

>So in the event that I decide to keep it as >part of the odd dead PC group, I'd like to trade you for the keyboard >adaptor and setup disk (if you have it). I have pinouts for the adaptor on my web site (<http://www.mythtech.net/WyseKey.jpg>). Pretty trivial to make. I have no idea if the one I have is a real Wyse adaptor, or just something a previous owner built. It looks a little amature to be a real Wyse part and has no part numbers on it. Next time I am at my storage garage, I'll take a look for the setup disk. Or, if you need/want it sooner, just pester me to go look for it. If I find it, I can send you an image of it (the one I have is also not a Wyse original). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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LGP-21 Hardware Training Manual

by tomj＠wps.com

Scanning is mostly done, and it's indexed and on the web at http://wps.com/projects/LGP-21/Documentation/LGP-21-Maintenance-Training-Ma… I scanned only the first 50 or so A-sized pages, but all the B-sized (large) schematics etc are there. It's missing the memory alignment info, which are in the later pages. Now that I got the new perl script done (it's not that big a deal, it was simply a matter of time to complete it) I'll finish scanning probably this week. PS: to John Foust (I think it was) that politely reminded me some time ago of the obvious fact that JPEGs are lossy. I did everything in TIFF format, but my browser (konqueror) would not load TIFF images! Oddly, when I hovered the mouse over an image link, it would say on the status line "/path/etc/foo.tiff (X bytes, TIFF format)" but not display it. So I had to convert to JPEG, sigh. I have the TIFFs should I stumble upon a solution.

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98015-66501

by aek＠spies.com

google is your friend: http://www.com-com.co.uk/parts_4998.ihtml HP/Compaq 98015-66501 9885 ALIGNMENT CARD - 98015-66501 - 9801566501

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archiving as opposed to backing up

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > With enough slaves, and the technology hidden at area 51. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I stand corrected on the last point, I meant that we cannot with officially acknowledged technology. As for slaves, don't forget that those secret government bases are not only repositories of clandestine technology, but are also ready to be used as concentration camps of the Fourth Reich. MS

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by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Teo Zenios <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: > People today have no reason to build > egyptian type pyramids, and we can build them if we wanted to with our > present technology. No, we cannot. MS

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archiving as opposed to backing up

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/23/04 1:05:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, teoz(a)neo.rr.com writes: Over 2000 years ago, the ancient Romans & Greeks *knew* the Earth was round > and orbited the sun. However, it seems all references to that knowledge was > unavailable by the 1st millennium, when people once again thought the world Actually it was ethe Egyptians who calculated the diameter of the world and knew it was round. And the Library in Alexandra had over 400,000 books covering the knowledge and technology of the time. 600 to 300 BC was a real high point in civilization with a real understanding of the world and technology. The Greeks adopted much of the Egyption technology. The Mediterainian area even had geared differential chronometers for navigation. It was the Romans who burned the library and did not care about loseing the technology. Their technology was war and the were very successful at it. The world before the Romans was much more stable and understood. It was Western Civilization (based on the Romans) that really brought Civilization down from its high point. And is still doing it. Paxton Astoria, Oregon PS: I think it is the failure of the electrical systems due to virus attacks that will bring our civilization down from it's high point. With so much information in electronic format it will be similar to the burning of the library in Alexandra with much loss of technology.

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interesting finds: Matrox VME Video card, AST Advantage

by konsheyn＠yahoo.com

Hi Joe! Do you have Matrox VG-640 card? Do you want to sell it? Ken : Stopped and looked through a bunch of scrap today. Found a Matrox VG-640 video card for the VME bus. Does anyone have any specs on this? Google didn't find ANY hits for it. Also picked up an AST Advantage card with the Advantage Pak daughterboard. Anyone need it? OT stuff: Also picked up a Beckman UV 5270 SpectroPhotometer. Man this thing is loaded! Will try to re-assemble it and get it working in a few days. Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Byte collection going to the block.

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

I am going to be selling off a collection of Byte magazines [they are going to e-bay thiss weekend]. The collection is complete [to the best of my knowledge] for 1983 thru 1986. There are also 20+ issues from the early-mid 1990's. If any is interested and wants to make a reasonable offer (all offers will NOT include shipping), this is your chance..... David Sayville, NY

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Bitsavers archive mirror -> modems

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0500 9/11/04, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: >p.s. Just curious how many of you still uses good-ole classic analog >modem technology daily? Yo. (And that has nothing to do with how late this response is :-) .) Ethernet at the office, but analog modem at home. Not audio, the phone cable plugs straight into the modem board on the PowerBook 3400, which admittedly isn't on topic... -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967

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PeeCee Text

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I think I've got one. Or at least, I've got a weirdish Wyse PC. The >processor is on an ISA card that also has the keyboard connector, which is >a modular phone plug type. Weird. I had one of those. I think it was a 386 (might have been a 286), I know it was a Wyse. It was a full height desktop case, but only about half as wide as an AT/XT. The processor was on an ISA card, and the keyboard socket was an RJ-12 connector. I never had a matching keyboard, all I had was an adaptor to go from the RJ-12 to a regular din-5 AT style keyboard. I know you needed a special disk to configure the BIOS. I kept a copy of the floppy taped inside the case so I didn't have to hunt around for it if I made any changes. I still have the keyboard adaptor. I may have other parts from the machine, but I'm not sure. I might have kept the processor ISA card because it was interesting, but I know the machine on a whole was junked. I likely still have a copy of that setup disk somewhere as well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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archiving as opposed to backing up

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Maybe we should realize that the "unimportant" stuff may really tell people in the future a lot about us. It's amazing what can be discovered from unintentionally discarded stuff. How are we to know what was so commonplace that nobody saved it. For example the following is a reference to archeology and digging up old privys. http://www.sha.org/ha34ca.htm#springcon I remember all of the computer cards I punched and then used to record phone messages. I don't have one left today. How many Fortran coding sheets do you still have? Mine are gone. I still have a couple of greenbar printouts. If I try to describe them to my kids they don't understand. Their grandchildren will wonder what they were needed for. Thanks Mike

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FW: Byte collection going to the block.

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

I am going to be selling off a collection of Byte magazines [they are going to e-bay thiss weekend]. The collection is complete [to the best of my knowledge] for 1983 thru 1986. There are also 20+ issues from the early-mid 1990's. If any is interested and wants to make a reasonable offer (all offers will NOT include shipping), this is your chance..... David Sayville, NY

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Byte collection going to the block.

by david＠dynamicconcepts.us

I am going to be selling off a collection of Byte magazines [they are going to e-bay thiss weekend]. The collection is complete [to the best of my knowledge] for 1983 thru 1986. There are also 20+ issues from the early-mid 1990's. If any is interested and wants to make a reasonable offer (all offers will NOT include shipping), this is your chance..... David Sayville, NY

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GMail Invitations

by jrice54＠vzavenue.net

I have five gmail invitations to pass out. Any takers? First come, first served. I'll be out this evening but will take care of any requests as soon as I get back in. James -- www.blackcube.org The Texas State Home for Wayward and Orphaned Computers

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GMail Invitations

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Erik S. Klein wrote: > >> I've got a dozen of the same and have the same offer. >> >> First come, first served. Just drop me an email with your name and a >> contact email address (if different from the one you're emailing me >> from) > >Are these in high demand or something? Of what benefit are they? Can I >buy some on eBay? > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival Any special colors or flavors? Dwight

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RSTS / Simh disk drive confusion

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Ok, I am reading the RSTS/E 7.0 system generation manual.. and I am looking at my existing simh hard disk files and what may be available.. I can't seem to find information for RSTS as to what it calls it's disk drives.. I have two RL01 images which RSTS calls DL0: and DL1:, and DSKINT and HARDWR see them also as RL and they seem to have 2MW of capacity. I can have other kinds of disks, for instance RMO3 simh=RP RSTS=???? DSKINT/HARDWR=RR Capacity=33mw Ten times the size but what does RSTS call them? I would like to find a table/list that shows all the different disk models and what RSTS calls them. Can anyone point me to the proper manual?

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RSTS/PDP11 quick reference guides

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

As I usually do when investigating some new (old) hardware, I like to create a "Quick Reference Guide" Usually in form an 8 1/2 x 11 page with 3 columns on each side meant to be folded in 3rds. Ok RSTS/E people what should be on a quick reference guide? Basic syntax? Commands? The PPN's of common subsystems like OPSER? SPOOL? (are those locations standard?)

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It's back up...

by zmerch＠30below.com

I dunno about anyone else, but I haven't received any list messages for a day or two... was the list down, or just sporadic? (It's gone sporadic a time or two before...) Jay, you mentioned a dying hard drive. Need a donation? I could spare a sawbuck your way for the new one... Lemme know! Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate." sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein zmerch(a)30below.com |

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some HP history

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I found another interesting link to a document about the history of HP, squarely on the HP-3000. This is vaguely similar to the other document I posted a while back, but a different one nontheless. Enjoy! http://www.3k.com/papers/hp3000_history.html Jay

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PeeCee Text

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> wrote: > In the old days of the XT and CGA, what text modes were supported? 0, 1, 2, 3. 40x25 and 80x25. > Were these modes standard? No. MS

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Decimal V Binary??

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I feel it is right for some purposes. I feel more confident when I know the bank is using a decimal based computer. Dwight >From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >There are SOME people (I am NOT one) who actually feel that >DECIMAL is the right way to go in computers! > >For example, check Mike Cowlishaw's pages at IBM: >http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/decimal/decifaq.html >http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/decimal/decifaq3.html#bingood >etc. > >-- >Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com >How would society have developed if the more dominant >of our ancestors didn't have stinky feet? >

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archiving as opposed to backing up

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Teo Zenios wrote: > >> To me archives should be made up of just the important stuff, if we didn't >> find it important enough to save it, people 1000 years from now will think >> it is even less important. Who wants to dig through a trillion pictures of >> everyone's pre school finger paintings in an archive our parents put >> together 1000 years from now? > >Well, I for one would be beyond thrilled to see pictures of people and >places and things from 1000 years ago. > >-- Hi Of course, pictures without captions would be of less interest than ones with captions. How many albums seem to lack context. Sellam is right, I'd love to see how people did simple day to day kinds of things from 1K years ago. Dwight

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zorba and 4p

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

I had a modular micro Zorba and a TRS80 4p portable dropped of today. Looking at the zorba website http://www.zorba.z80.de/telcon.htm there is mention that the disks are also available from Don Maslin. Large pile of software and disks with them to play with this Friday. -- Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 Looking for: PICMG backplane Open Source Weekend http://www.osw.ca

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bit-widths, was Re: HP Laserjet ..again....

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > I always thought that the technical definition of a "byte" is "8-bits". That's the current definition among beige-box kids, I thought the original definition was the smallest *addressable* unit of memory, wasn't it? That's the reason why RFCs use the term "octet" for 8 bits, not "byte". MS

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > 2) Muy favourite word processor is called TeX.... Mine's troff. Currently using it to write a book on UFOs and exopolitics. MS

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Western Union self-winding clock

by FaLLnAnGeL889＠aol.com

Hi, My dad has one of those self winding clocks, and i was wondering if you could point me in the direction of finding a wiring diagram for it? thanks for your time -Kate

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[BBC-Micro] CEEFAX short story contest

by charlesb＠summerfield-technology.co.uk

you could in fact quite legally broadcast a teletext signal from a small transmitter if you are capable of building one, you MUST be careful however to make sure that you get no spurious emissions and also dont use an aerial but a coax feeder between the tx and the tuner. (IE link it up exactly as you would a TV). I also have a program somewhere that ran on an RML 580Z that I wrote at school to simulate a teletext server and just made up the pages from text files and displayed them on the screen. it was written for a school message system above reception. If I get time some day I'll try and dig up the disk (if it still is readable) and zip it up and put it up somewhere. regards charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: <bbc-micro(a)cloud9.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro] CEEFAX short story contest > On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 22:20 +0100, gARetH baBB wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Jules Richardson wrote: >> >> > BBC was? I still have a pet project to get a real service up and >> > running >> > at the museum (and if a phone exchange can be simulated, then it's not >> > like we don't have plenty of old modem hardware lying around - acoustic >> > coupler, anyone?) >> >> Q: what do you think viewdata has in connection with teletext (apart from >> most of the display attributes) ? > > Both are examples of early information retrieval systems; the problem > with a museum exhibit being that it'd be somewhat illegal to broadcast > teletext over the airwaves! > > That doesn't stop the simulation using a service such as pip that I > mentioned earlier (which digging around appears to have been public- > access) across a dial-up link, though. > >>From a display point of view it'd make sense to combine it with a > viewdata system (in the sense that one or the other could be used at a > time by a terminal of some form - whether a BBC or whatever) simply to > avoid duplication of cabling, modems etc. > > And an example of a BBS would be a third option of course. It's a case > of making a modem think it was talking to a phone exchange and I'm not > sure what's involved there - but the Colossus guys know all about phone > equipment and have piles of period hardware lying about so I'm sure they > can offer help. > > I'm still not sure what was used server-side to construct and hold > teletext pages either (fro BBC's Ceefax or others); likely a DEC mini of > some sort - BBC machines for page composition? > > cheers > > Jules > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.759 / Virus Database: 508 - Release Date: 15/09/2004

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Don Maslin

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Vern Thanks for being there. I hope his wife understands how many people her husband has helped. We all wish her and the rest of her family the best. We have all lost a friend. Dwight >From: "Vernon Wright" <vern4wright(a)yahoo.com> > > >I read the list through the digests, and not always >frequently. So let me re-introduce myself. > >I am a past-president of the San Diego Computer >Society. > >In about 1986 I founded Dina-SIG, a special interest >group of the San Diego Computer Society. Don Maslin >immediately showed up, and we became fast friends and >have remained so ever since. I find it difficult to >speak of him in the past tense. > >Don took on a special project for Dina-SIG, and made >it his own: the archiving of software for classic >computers. > >I have of course talked with his wife Winnie, and >she has asked that people interested in Don's software >archives and his hardware collection hold off on >contact until further notice through this list. > >Within a reasonable time I will locate his archives, >and I will personally guarantee that the archives will >be duplicated and copies deposited with people and >institutions which will honor the attitude that Don >put into this effort - one of love for old stuff and >and of service to the community. > >In time his hardware collection will also be made >available to the community. > >I ask you to consider Mrs. Maslin's position and not >attempt to intervene at this time. > >Vern Wright > >vern4wright(a)yahoo.com > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo >

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Don Maslin

by aek＠spies.com

I was going to stay out of this, but.. > Within a reasonable time I will locate his archives, and I will > personally guarantee that the archives will be duplicated There is unmarked, unread, and uncataloged material as well. My particular concern is I sent hundreds of 8" discs to Don through his nephwew up here to archive, which he never touched. I can't imagine that I was the only person that did this. It is going to be a non-trivial effort to find, read, and organize all of this.

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Don Maslin

by vern4wright＠yahoo.com

I read the list through the digests, and not always frequently. So let me re-introduce myself. I am a past-president of the San Diego Computer Society. In about 1986 I founded Dina-SIG, a special interest group of the San Diego Computer Society. Don Maslin immediately showed up, and we became fast friends and have remained so ever since. I find it difficult to speak of him in the past tense. Don took on a special project for Dina-SIG, and made it his own: the archiving of software for classic computers. I have of course talked with his wife Winnie, and she has asked that people interested in Don's software archives and his hardware collection hold off on contact until further notice through this list. Within a reasonable time I will locate his archives, and I will personally guarantee that the archives will be duplicated and copies deposited with people and institutions which will honor the attitude that Don put into this effort - one of love for old stuff and and of service to the community. In time his hardware collection will also be made available to the community. I ask you to consider Mrs. Maslin's position and not attempt to intervene at this time. Vern Wright vern4wright(a)yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Challenger C4P information wanted.

by keith＠saracom.com

Hello, A friend gave me his first computer to go in my collection. Its a Challenger C4P. I do have the original manuals etc. And of course my friend for information. What I am looking for however is additional information, websites etc devoted to it. I have the cassette based version. The first question would be details on the floppy disk version. IE can I upgrade mine. If not, sources for programs for the cassette based unit. For one thing, I would like a terminal emulation program for it. Thanks Max

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > A big reason for the techies and nerds was so they could do > programming without being constrained by time limits. And what did they > programs? GAMES! Well, to give just one data point, not me: when I first learned how to program at the age of 7, in PDP-11 assembly on my first home computer, Soviet BK0010, I did NOT write any games. My first program, although it was not on the BK0010 but on its successor, BK0011, was an operating system. So I guess I was destined from the very beginning to be an OS guy. (What am I doing now, 18 years later? Maintaining 4.3BSD-Quasijarus, an operating system. And it's for VAX, which is not that far away from PDP-11, my first instruction set.) MS

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MicroVAX3100 boot disk limited to 1GB - which ones?

by classiccomp-tech＠bouncy-castle.demon.co.uk

Which models of the MicroVAX3100 were limited to <1GB boot disks? I've a stack of MicroVAX3100 model 30s that I'm tarting up & I'm trying to acquire HDDs for and couldn't find if they were affected by the limitation? ta greg (ps : anyone UK want a 3100? Just ask. shed is full of the things rescued from Witchy / Jules Richardson :)

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4.3bsd/quasijarus w/ts11 (I have a fix)

by brad＠heeltoe.com

I know that many of you out there are running 4.3bsd-quasijarus on your vax 11/780's, 750's and 730's. And you've probably been wondering why the probe of the TS11 controller in your unibus is failing and you can't get your tape drive to work. Go ahead, admit it. You've been wondering. If you see messages like this when booting: zs0 at uba0 csr 172520 didn't interrupt The you have the problem. Well, I found a fix. Well, actually, Chris Torek, who made the change which broke the TS11 probe code also offered a 'quick fix', and it's here: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ts11+interrupt&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=12… (I'm sending this more as an archive so the next luser like me who can't figure out why his ts11 won't work may be lucky enough to get a google hit :-) -brad

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free autorouting...

by pkoning＠equallogic.com

Saw an ad in EE Times that might be of interest to some on this list: www.freeautorouting.com -- do the placement with the ratsnet (netlist) and send it to them; they run the Specctra autorouter over it. That's a pretty expensive piece of software. You get back an email that tells you where to retrieve the output. The ad says "you don't have to be our customer to use this free service". Neat. I don't know anything further -- haven't tried it, haven't dealt with that company (PCBnet) before. But if some of you have a PCB layout to be done that's big enough to be a pain to do manually, you might want to check this out. paul

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> >>> >>>> Well, it's much harder to fill out paper forms using a >>>> computer and printer (getting spacing right, measuring the >>>> form to figure out where fields are, etc). And, I prefer >>>> using my Selectric on forms to using a pen and writing it >>>> out; my handwriting isn't always that readable. >>>> >>>> Pat > >If you are running Windows and have a Scanner, check of FillMagik. >Reasonable to use for single-use forms, GREAT for forms you have to fill out >on a regular basis. Not much good if you have to use the old multisheet carbon forms. Of course these days at work basically all of our forms are filled out on the web. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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HP Printers

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Inkjet ink is actually more expensive than champagne. Although I prefer bourbon and water but the printer may rust. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3035500.stm Mike

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Site Privacy issues

by jpl15＠panix.com

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:42:52 +0100 From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon(a)gjcp.net> Subject: Re: Site Privacy issues John Lawson wrote: >> I do understand perfectly that your's is an innocuous, semi-private site, >> and making the info available to the Legacy Computing community is quite <gordon(a)gjcp.net> replies: > I just can't understand the thinking behind that. Do you take all the > back-up > batteries out of your PCs, so you can set up the BIOS from scratch every > time? [snip] Gordon, either you're very used to reasoning with young teenagers, or perhaps you are quite young yourself - no matter. There is a term: reductio ad absurdam, and I shall not dignify your post any further than to refer you to that term, it's definition, meaning, and how it might apply to the above.. Cheers John

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by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Tom Jennings <tomj(a)wps.com> wrote: > > Soviet BK0010, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ----> COOL! :-) Are you familiar with it? I never thought its very existence was known anywhere outside the former USSR! I mean it wasn't secret or anything, just something I can't imagine anyone else knowing about (USSR wasn't exactly a computer exporter :-). Well, OK, there was some Eastern Bloc computer technology that was significant enough to be at least known in the West (Robotron for example), but I can't imagine something as little as BK0010 being known anywhere in the West. Its CPU chip, K1801VM1, was really cool though: it was a complete single-chip implementation of an LSI-11 CPU with Q-bus on its pins. DEC never had that. MS

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FW: cctech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 27 - Re: HP Laserjet

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Barry Watzman wrote: "I have an actual factory service manual for the Laserjet II, I may scan it and make it into a PDF for the classic computer documentation effort." Seth Lewin wrote: "I wonder if anyone on the list has any kind of teardown instructions or lubrication instructions for these machines - mine sounds as if it can use a greasing when it's feeding paper - not a screeching sound but is sounds as if something's running dry in there. It's never been taken apart and Apple's hardbound book on the LW II doesn't give this kind of information." ********** Ok, I did scan the manual. Although it's an HP Laserjet Series II service manual, it's essentially a service manual for any device using the Canon "SX" print mechanism. The bad news, it' 8 megabytes (I scanned it in color, it's a color manual). I can't easily E-Mail it, anyone know an FTP site where I can make it available? A bit of concern here, it's a copyrighted manual, and unlike IMSAI, Altair, etc., HP is very much still in business and might object. [Although I have an HP LaserJet 4 service manual in PDF format that I found on another web site.]

21 years, 6 months

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Big IBM vacuum-column tapes drives on Ebay

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

Two 3420 drives and 3803 controller, in Maine USA. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74946&item=512531949… --Bill

21 years, 6 months

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

JimD <jimmydevice(a)verizon.net> wrote: > There is no reason to own almost anything. A house, live in an apartment > or under an > overpass or in a cave. I live in an apartment. Being in the bottommost socioeconomic spectrum (a Marxist lumpen-proletarian with nothing to lose but my chains), I will never own a house. > A car, Ride public transportation, bike or walk, I vehemently hate cars and will never own one. I use and very strongly support public transportation, and I walk. > Tv? Books > and newspapers. I've been living without a TV since 2000 and I'm very happy without that brainwashing machine. And yes, I like to read. MS

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> wrote: > "In 1977, Ken Olsen, the founder and CEO of Digital Equipment > Corporation, said, "There is no reason for any individual to > have a computer in his home." 2004 now and I still agree with that 100%. MS

21 years, 6 months

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HP Printers

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > >[HP Printer fuser] > >> These parts are available, but expect to pay $30 to $50 each for a new lamp >> and tube. The job is not that difficult if you know what you are doing, but >> substantially more difficult if you don't (big surprise, right?). > >I don;t know what I'm doing, but I've stripped and rebuilt the fusers for >the CX and SX engines. The most important thing to remember is that the >'heater' is a quartz-halogen lamp, and you must not touch the 'glass' >with your fingners. The CX one is difficult to handle (it's possible to >hld it -- just -- by the ceramic end cap), the SX one can be handled by >the wires. > ---snip--- Hi I thought I'd mention that should you actually touch the quartz part, it is not throw away yet. You just need to clean the surface well. Rubbing alcohol works well at removing finger grease but I always like to follow with a good dry cleaning fluid like automotive "Brake Clean". What happens is that your finger grease will carbonize on the hot surface and cause a hot spot. This will stress the quartz tube and break it. Dwight

21 years, 6 months

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computer flooring (fwd)

by aek＠spies.com

> this stuff is HARD to come by yup. I'm interested as well. Where is it located? Would suspect the other Big Iron people (Donzelli, Ross) may be interested as well.

21 years, 6 months

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BBC printer port (ever used for anything else?)

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

The only thing I remember the printer port being used for was some cheap-assed eprom burner, and a weird 9000Hz sound sampler. Usually manufacturers had the sense to use the 1 Mhz bus. I really wouldn't go to much effort to bring it off-board in your ACW. I doubt you'll ever get a chance to use it. By the way I'm borrowing Joe Rigdon's US Beeb so I can recover the code on my BBC 5.25" floppies, which is where the sideways RAM loading code you were looking for is stored. Unfortunately I did't have any copies of it on the Archie disks (which had been easier to restore). My experiments with fitting a 5.25 drive to a PC and reading the files that way were a complete disaster. The first attempt scored gashes in some floppies until I noticed, then after buying an identical (but working) drive on eBay to replace the bad one, I found that the code I had to read the disks just plain did not work reliably. I tried several PCs, including old ones, knowing the problems with incompatible disk chips. I was also unable to get the disks working under any Beeb emulators. (Unlike with the Archie emulators which worked a treat with 3.5 disks!) Once I get the US Beeb and can read the disks native, does anyone have any good suggestions on how to read and transfer disk images to Unix over a serial line? Remembering that I'll have to bootstrap any process by typing the code in to the Beeb. I guess I should start wiring up a Beeb<->PC serial line right now! G

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