On Nov 11 2004, 8:32, Gooijen H wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have the pdp8/e *including* the console running on the Core
> 6809 Board (plus one I/O Board)!
Nice! I look forward to seeing this.
> If the HALT (or SING STEP) switch is down, you can use the EXAM
> and DEP momentary switches. If I press EXAM, I want to see the
> 12-bit word contents of the address currently on display in the
> top row (memory address) of the console.
> That 12-bit word is displayed on the 12 lights below the memory
> address lights. Is it correct that the position of the selector
> switch (the rotary knob) must be on "AC" to see the contents of
> the active address? Or is its position not relevant while HALT
> (or SING STEP) is active which seems odd to me because you want
> to be able to see more than just the AC when you HALTed the CPU?
The position is always relevant, but you don't set it to AC. You set
it to MD (Memory Data). And when you press EXAM (or DEP), the address
displayed on the upper row will increment (but the data displayed will
remain the same, the data for the address that was current when you
pressed EXAM/DEP).
> The answer seems easy, I just want to hear confirmation.
> The current implementation shows the contents briefly after I
> pressed EXAM *and* the knob is on "AC". Just *very briefly*,
> then the simulation shows the actual AC content again.
It shouldn't do that.
> So, on a real pdp8/e I assume that when the knob is on "AC" you
> see the contents of AC when HALT is active?
Yes, without any glitches from the data. But only if the rotary knob
is turned to the AC position, otherwise you see whatever you've
selected (STATE, STATUS, AC, MD, MQ, BUS).
> In that case, after the user pushed EXAM once (and the memory
> contents is displayed as I described above), how does he get to
> see contents of the "AC" again?
>
> Hope I made myself clear why I asked the question ...
>
> TIA,
> - Henk, PA8PDP.
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Hello all,
I have the pdp8/e *including* the console running on the Core
6809 Board (plus one I/O Board)! But ...
I have one more question about the behaviour of the pdp8/e.
If the HALT (or SING STEP) switch is down, you can use the EXAM
and DEP momentary switches. If I press EXAM, I want to see the
12-bit word contents of the address currently on display in the
top row (memory address) of the console.
That 12-bit word is displayed on the 12 lights below the memory
address lights. Is it correct that the position of the selector
switch (the rotary knob) must be on "AC" to see the contents of
the active address? Or is its position not relevant while HALT
(or SING STEP) is active which seems odd to me because you want
to be able to see more than just the AC when you HALTed the CPU?
The answer seems easy, I just want to hear confirmation.
The current implementation shows the contents briefly after I
pressed EXAM *and* the knob is on "AC". Just *very briefly*,
then the simulation shows the actual AC content again.
So, on a real pdp8/e I assume that when the knob is on "AC" you
see the contents of AC when HALT is active?
In that case, after the user pushed EXAM once (and the memory
contents is displayed as I described above), how does he get to
see contents of the "AC" again?
Hope I made myself clear why I asked the question ...
TIA,
- Henk, PA8PDP.
A Macintosh Plus 1MB with keyboard, mouse, power cable, apple cable and dust cover(s) followed me home from trash night. I powered it up - makes the tone, then wants you to load floppy disk in drive. I've got no boot disks... Display is good. Overall condition is decent, needs cleaning. Weights 20 pounds/9Kg. total. It's yours for postage from 19001 USPS; 19044 UPS; 19034 Fedex. In case you're interested, they threw out the Apple printer last week - someone else picked it up. I got the HP laser printer though last week....strangely enough, they threw out another HP laser printer tonight, this time with a toner cartridge. The toner cartridge is bad...rats...Bill.
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At "Au Vieux PC" (where shopping is always an Adventure) I spotted a T4400
with docking station and parallele port to SCSI addapter and other bits.
All for 15 CAD.
However, the T4400 has a BIOS password.
http://www.bitlink.ca/Library/toshiba.shtml Says that it's impossible to
remove the password. Anyone here have any other ideas?
Also, anyone want this beast?
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I'm going to take a crack at bidding. I have access to fiche scanners.
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I have all of this fiche already, and thousands of sheets more if you
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Hello, I need a bit of help. I had a problem with my ISP and my mailbox got shut down for three days. After this, I am having problems getting my daily messages for either cctalk or cctech. I tried resubscribing but those requests bounced. I emailed mailman-owner(a)classiccmp.org but was told my email was rejected, please email mailman-owner(a)classiccmp.org. If someone might be able to help, please respond to my email. Please feel free to forward this to the appropriate admin for resolution.
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Hey, here's a couple of posts from alt.sys.pdp11 for those who have an
interest: the first a list of equipment, the second some additional
information about their current situation. Sounds like a potentially nice
bunch o' stuff.
No affiliation, and Michigan's about 2000 miles out of my way. :)
-O.-
-- first forwarded message --
From: Todd Wilson <wilsonto(a)msu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11
Subject: Parts
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:37:03 -0500
Message-ID: <cmr69e$27er$1(a)msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Greetings from Michigan State University
I've got the following group of stuff set to go to salvage and have no
idea of the value (if any) that they have anymore. Any information would
be appreciated.
DEC PDP 11/93 - RSX11M+
TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1)
MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2)
M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2)
M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (1)
M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1)
M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1)
M8991 (1)
M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1)
M9401 - GRANT CONTINUITY CARD (3)
DEC PDP 11/83 - RSX11M+
TK-50 TAPE DRIVE (1)
MAXTOR RD-54 DRIVES (2)
M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2)
M3107 - DHQ11-M ASYNC MUX (2)
M7516 - Q-BUS TO ETHERNET ADAPTOR (1)
M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1)
M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1)
DEC VAXStation II
MAXTOR RD-53 DRIVES (2)
M3106 - 4 LINE ASYNC CARD (2)
M7504 - DEQN-M Q-BUS ETHERNET CARD (1)
M7555 - RD DISK CONT BD F4/D1,DUAL (1)
M8027 - LPV11 PRINTER CONTROLLER (1)
M9058 - RQDX2,3 CABLE PADDLE CARD (1)
EMULEX TC0210201-FSH - TAPE CONTROLLER
EMULEX SC0310201-BXF - DISK CONTROLLER
MISCELLANEOUS
DEC H3104 - 36-PIN TO 8 MMJ PORTS (3)
DECXM-M.D01 - AUI X BNC THINWIRE MAU (2)
DEC BNE40=02 - 2M E-NET/IEEE 802 NI CABLE (2)
DEC H8571-C - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (3)
DEC H8571-D - MMJ-RS232 ADAPTER (2)
DEC H8575-B - DB9F / MMJ ADAPTER (7)
EMU-TEK - REVs 3.0A and 3.0B (1ea)
VT520-A4 TERMINAL (1)
BLACK BOX 4-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25)
BLACK BOX 6-1 RS-232 SWITCH (DB25)
Thanks...
Todd Wilson
HVAC Services - Michigan State University
-- second forwarded message --
From: Todd Wilson <wilsonto(a)msu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11
Subject: Re: Parts
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:05:27 -0500
Message-ID: <cmt06p$npl$1(a)msunews.cl.msu.edu>
I should clarify...
These systems are to be sent to salvage complete, and I don't intend to
part them out. Of the miscellaneous parts, the H3104s go with the PDPs
(2 with the 11/83, 1 with the 11/93). The MAUs and NI cables were a
DECNet interface between the two PDPs. 232-MMJ adapters, I have a bunch
of generics (bought from Black-Box) along with the actual DEC ones
listed. I also have quite a bit of documentation with the PDPs. The
VaxStation was procured as a parts machine since it is also QBus and PDP
parts were becoming scarce(though we never used it as such). My hope is
to generate some interest in them so that someone will buy them through
salvage rather than sending them to the crusher. The last unit I sent to
salvage was an 11/24, 5 full enclosures, 9 RA-81 disk drives, 1 RA-80, 2
RLO2, and about (literally) 30 RLO2 Pacs. All were crushed due to lack
of interest. When I send this group of items to salvage, it will include
some LA100 and 120 printers and stands, an RLO2 Diagnostic Pac (RSX11M),
and I think I have 2 or three more VTs (if memory serves, VT320s). I
might have 1 more RA80 also. My intent is to post back here with details
on how to purchase the items through salvage when I send them (within
the next week or two). Many have offered EBay as an option, but our
equipment transfer rules do not permit direct sale of University owned
items. All inventoried materials must be transferred to Salvage for
release from the University.
If anyone need to contact me about them, I can be reached at
Direct Line: (517)432-0533
Email: tdwilson(a)pplant.msu.edu
Thanks
Todd Wilson
>Mines a A9M106, and seems to be compatible with my Mac Classic, That is
>if my
>mac classic can grok an 800K drive.
Yes, the classic can handle an 800k drive.
Support for the 800k disks was dropped I believe in software, not
hardware sometime around OS 8.?? Any Mac that has a floppy port should be
able to work with an 800k drive, with the exception of possibly the 128k
(the 512 needs the "Init 20" init to use an 800k drive, that same init
may work with the 128. I have a feeling I've used it to add an HD20 to
the 128 in the past, but I can't be sure, and I've seen reports that the
HD20 does NOT work with the 128... if the reports are right, and I'm
wrong, then the 128 should also fail to use an 800k drive for the same
lack of HFS support reason)
The Classic will work just fine with an 800k drive. The harder part will
be finding 800k disks! (you can't reliably use HD disks as 800k. It will
work, but not for long)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Can an Apple II 3 1/2 drive be attached to the floppy port
>of a Mac Classic II?
>
>Can this damage my Mac Classic II?
>
>I am currently running system 7.1
>
>
>
>I think it's an 800K drive.
It depends on the drive. Some were compatible between the two lines,
others would fry the drive controller.
If you do a search on the actual drive part number, that should give you
the answers you seek. This web site may be all you need to find your
drive and if it will work with both
<http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/drives.html>
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Can an Apple II 3 1/2 drive be attached to the floppy port
of a Mac Classic II?
Can this damage my Mac Classic II?
I am currently running system 7.1
I think it's an 800K drive.
>Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:58:10 +0000
>From: cvendel(a)att.net
>Subject: Xerox GUI on a PC???
>Is there a PD program that can be downloaded to run a PC to give it the
>look &
>feel of the original Xerox Altos or Star 8010 ???
Yes. GVWin. It's not entirely PD - mostly obsolete abandonware as far as I
understand. Get it here:
http://www.corestore.org/gvwin21.zip
There's another implementation - GVX - which does the same job under X on
SunOS and (I think) AIX. But it's a bugger to configure!
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
I found an OEM 11/73 at Salvage this morning. It was built by Netcom.
I'm trying to identify a few boards that are in it. Wonder if anyone
can help?
There's a pair of double-width boards marked KHV1, one says "COMMS
CHIPCARD", the other says "DMA CARD". The boards are connected by
a wide ribbon cable. The latter has a handwritten tape label which
says "Modified 422 / DTR tied active / provides xmit clks". I take
this to mean this is some type of RS-422 interface, but can't find
any notes about it online.
The other item (two of them, actually, identical) has virtually no
identifying markings. It's a quad width board, marked "(C) Orange,
CA 92665". The reverse has a small icon of a whale, and says
"MOEBI QUICK". There may be text under then handles, but they're
essentially riveted onto the board. In the center of the back edge
of the board, there's a wide ribbon cable connector. Multiport serial
boards perhaps?
I believe this was probably a Merit SCP machine (node CES1), for anyone
who was around educational networking in Michigan over 15 years ago.
There's a board in the machine which is definitely a custom item,
marked "MFV (C) 1984 UMNET", which I'm sure was developed by the U of
Michigan/Merit folks. The latter appears to have its own processor,
EPROMs, etc.
The other boards in the machine are the CPU, and a DEC 128k RAM board.
Images (warning: LARGE, about 3 MB each) are at:
http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1282.jpg (quad board)
http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1284.jpg (double board, COMMS)
http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/img_1286.jpg (double board, DMA)
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Dennis Boone
> Same goes for (HP) Apollo Domain/OS ...
10.4 is taken care of. Hopefully someone is taking care of the
earlier cart and floppy versions.
I've been bugging the person who was working on the NetBSD port
to the DN3/4xxx series for the hardware info he was able to find
but he's stopped replying to emails. Finding hardware info would
be a good thing to archive as well.
I'm still trying to find a Tek 8550 or DOS/50 software, or the
distrib/diag floppies for the 856x
Hi Bill. I'd be interested if it's still available.
Kind regards,
John
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From: Bill Pileggi [mailto:wpileggi@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 5:58 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: "Eagle" CPM machine, all-in-one, w/manuals needs a home
A friend has an Eagle all-in-one machine that runs CPM. 8080 or Z-80, 64K
RAM, 2 floppy disk drives. 1 original, 1 copy of manual. Software? Sort of
resembles Radio Shack model 3 - monitor, keyboard and drives all in one
case. Working status unknown - I only read through the manual - it's in his
storage room. Located in PA. 19001 weight ~30 pounds? Bill
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These files are multi-page TIF format. You can read these TIF files
with the "Kodak Imaging" viewer available in Windows 9x ....
Click Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Imaging (IIRC).
I have scanned these TIFs, but have sent CD-ROMs to a few people on
this list. They said that they would convert them into PDF files.
*If* that is done, you might get an other link to the PDF versions.
- Henk, PA8PDP.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of g-wright(a)att.net
> Sent: woensdag 10 november 2004 2:04
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: looking for Print set for a DEC TE-16 tape drive
>
> Hi all
>
> Does anyone have one of these or know a web source.
> any version.
>
> I'm still looking for PDP 11/60 Processor manuals also.
>
> Thanks, Jerry
While many of you were enjoying the sights and
sounds at VCF this weekend, I was driving a cargo
van to pick up equipment from various places in the
Midwest.
First was a rescue in Indiana that Jack Rubin
mentioned on the list. The owner reported some
DEC equipment in his warehouse that needed to
be hauled away before the building was demolished.
It turns out that the warehouse is a huge condemned
building that has a leaky and collapsing roof, is without
heat or electric power, and is located in an, um,
"socio-economically challenged" neighborhood.
From there I pulled out two racks: one with a DEC 11/34
and another with some distribution panels. The third
rack, with a tape drive, was too heavy for just the warehouse
owner and me to load into the van. From that setup I also left
behind two RP06 disk drives. In another part of the warehouse
was another set of three racks -- a PDP 8/e and three RK05 drives.
We pulled the CPU and left the rest. I also pulled out two
VT52s and two VT100s, along with some RSTS manuals
and magtapes. I left behind half a dozen DECwriter printing
terminals.
Before anyone gets too excited about what's left, be aware
that this stuff is not in very good condition. The warehouse
roof is in poor condition and the building is very drafty.
Everything was dirty, damp to the touch and rusting. None of the
equipment is anywhere near working condition -- it's been
sitting there for at least 10 years, suffering the ravages of
weather, temperature extremes and rodents.
Second rescue was from an electronics surplus place about
two hours drive from the first warehouse. From there I pulled
a MicroPDP-11, an RX02, a MINC-23 on a rolling cart, a DEC
GIGI, an Osborne luggable and a TI Silent 700. I know the last
two items got wet, but the others look in much better shape than
the equipment from the first warehouse. Photos upon request.
Third rescue, to me, was the best: I now have a working
Hewlett-Packard 9831A desktop computer. This machine uses
the BASIC language, has a single-line LED display and accepts
most of the 9825 interfaces. I know Tony has one of these, but
I'm not sure if anyone else does. They only appeared in the HP
catalog for one year and are extremely uncommon. I wrote a
bunch of software on these computers for an HP VAR in 1981 or so,
but I haven't seen a 9831 since then. The machine I have now even
has the floppy drive ROM cartridge, so I can hook up eight-inch disc
drives (9885M plus up to three 9885S) to it as well.
So, while hunting mainly for HP gear, in the last few months I've
ended up with the following DEC CPUs:
PDP 8/A
PDP 8/e
MicroPDP-11 (two)
PDP 11/34
GIGI
The earliest DEC machine I ever used was an 11/70, so I may be
looking for help in the future to try and restore these machines to
operation.
Cheers,
Dan
I'm looking for an HP2100/A, 2100/S, or 2100/MX. I have HP 1000/F (aka the
2117) to trade - know anyone interested? There's a picture of one of my
2117s attached; I also have one listed on eBay right now...
Gary
A couple months ago I picked up a copy of a copy of a "preliminary edition"
of the Intellec 4 manual. This copy is dated 1973. Unfortunately, it is
missing two pages and two pages are really hard to read. The missing pages are
5-5 and 5-6 (I believe they are front and back of one sheet). The hard to
read pages are 5-8, and 3-18. If anyone out there has a manual and can make a
copy of the pages, I'd really appreciate it. I would be happy to pay for
reproduction costs and mailing costs (a scan of the pages and emailing would be
even better).
Thanks,
Jeff
I haven't posted a bounty in a while, so here's a big list of manuals I am
in need of for a client. I'll pay $10 each plus postage. Please contact
me directly if you have any at <sellam(a)vintagetech.com>.
Thanks!
1) AG Group, Inc. "WatchPoint 1.0 Manual," May 1999.
2) Check Point Software Technologies Ltd., "Check Point FireWall - Technical Overview, Version 4.0," April 1999.
3) Cisco Systems, Inc., "FlowCollector Overview, Chapter 2," undated.
4) Cisco Systems, Inc., NetFlow FlowCollector Overview, Chapter 1," undated.
5) Cisco Systems, Inc. Overview of the NetFlow Analyzer," Copyright 1989-1998
6) Cisco Systems, Inc. "Release Notes for NetFlow FlowCollector, Release 1.0" September 1997.
7) Cisco Systems, Inc. "Using the FlowAnalyzer Display Module, Chapter 3," undated
8) NetScout Systems, Inc. "NetScout Intelligent Probes, End-to-End Monitoring of LANs, WANs, and Switched LANs for Distributed Networks," Copyright 1997
9) Network Associates, Inc. "SnifferPRO 98 by Network Associates, Expert Network Analysis for Optimal PErformance," Copyright 1998.
10) Network General, "Expert Sniffer Network Analyzer Operations, Release 4.5," pp. 1-3 through 1-7, 7-3 through 7-26, 6-62 through 6-75, Jan. 1995
11) Network General Corporation, "Managing WAN Technologies for Maximum Internetwork Performance, a Network Visibility Guide," Copyright 1996
12) Network General Corporation, "An Introduction to the Total Network Visibility Architecture, a Network Visibility Guide," Copyright 1995.
13) Novel NetWare, Network Computer Products, "LANalyzer for Windows 2.1 User's Guide, Chapter 5," pp. 75-103, March 1994.
14) Precision Guesswork Product Page: "LANWatch 32 Network Analyzer For Windows 95/NT, Unlocking the Complexity of Network Analysis," June 4, 1998 Update.
15) "Sniffer Network Analyzer Ethernet - Seven-layer expert analysis of 10/100 Mbps Ethernet segments," Network Associates, Inc.
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One of the very few goodies (I rarely partake in the stuff that comes
through the VCF, preferring the attendees to get the good scores, if they
can get to it before Hans) I ended up with from the VCF (thanks, Stan!)
is an AT&T "XPC Tutor". It's basically a microprocessor trainer of some
sort, circa 1986. The main CPU(?) inside is a very odd chip labeled
thusly:
AT&T
M T7102-NC
11 86 77
I thought at first this must be a Hobbit chip but it's too early (assuming
"11 86" is the date code, which would seem likely based on the date codes
of all the other ICs) and nothing comes back from Google.
Does anyone have any idea what this might be?
The other interesting thing about this trainer is that it has a 6809 in
the middle of the PCB, and it has 6 serial ports (or at least 6 DB25
connectors with several wignal lines each) poking out the back.
I'll post a picture if it'll help jog a memory.
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Hi Bryan,
>This one doesn't boot up. :( It starts up for a little bit, then the power
>light flashes a # of times. I have googled for POST error messages but
>could not find out what this meant.
Go here:
http://www.programmersheaven.com/zone20/cat268/3369.htm
And download HARDWARE.ZIP - this contains HARDWARE.TIP which is a large
text file that contains a lot of information about the startup LED flashes
and screen colors.
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Hello M Duell,
I have problem with my Floppy drive: Sony, Model MP-F52W-00D, This floppy drive is connecting to our machine (not PC).
What model it is possible to replace by?
Is it possible to use the new floppy drive 1.44? How?
Thanks for your advice
Best Regards,
Mostapha..
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Hello all,
I've just posted pictures from VCF 7.0 on my website.
The page isn't done yet as I've got to add descriptions to the images
(should take a few days), but the pictures themselves are there if you'd
like to take a look.
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcf7.shtml
Please let me know if you have anything special you'd like me to mention
about any of the pictures (links, names, description, etc.) or if you'd
like me to email you high rez copies of anything.
Thanks!
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>I have the following circuit boards for a varian data Machines, and would like to know what each board is
This is pretty much a complete set for a 620i
I have a copy of Vol 1 of the maint manual, which doesn't incl the schems.
DM 103 matrix decoder
104 memory driver
106 memory timing & ctl
108 register card
109 processor control 1
110 processor control 2
111 processor control 3
112 processor control 4
113 teletype control
119 memory data card
120 ?
121 interrrupt trap
122 mul/div extd adr
123 pwr fail /restart
124 pri intr module
126 ?
the name of the card should be on the etch
>
We pulled the CPU and left the rest.
--
Hopefully, you took the cable that was connecting the 8/E to
the first RK05. It is a very difficult to find part, second
only to the cable that goes from a TD8E to a TU56.
d
Gang - Hats off to Der Mouse for coming up with working code that
can convert a wav audio file to data. It imported into simh/altairZ80
via the PTR device and saved onto an mbasic boot disk just fine and so
far runs. 22 Years ago I had to massage the TRS/80 basic code to
get it to work on MITS 8K basic and thankfully didn't have to do it
all over again! A fun adventure game (Altair flavor) saved.
--Chuck
Yesterday I went back to the place where I found the two Flexowriters to see if I could fin ANY more parts for them. (Found one tape reel that mounts on the back of the Flexowriter. I didn't even know that they used one.) I was just there a few days ago but I took a good look around anyway. I found an intel Multibus chassis, about a dozen more cards including two bubble memory cards, FIVE Intel 86/380 computers (three are complete and supposed to be operable) and some kind of rackmount industrial computer with Multibus cards. I'm being deluged with Mulktibus stuff lately!
Joe
Hi;
I have the following circuit boards for a varian data Machines, and would like to know what each board is -- and what it does -- and what computer they go in (model) like a 620 or what ????
DM 103 -- CORE bOARD i HAVE 2
DM 104 5
DM 106 2
DM 108 3
DM 109 1
DM 111 1
DM 112 1
DM 113 1
DM 119 9
DM 120 1
DM 121 1
DM 122 1
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Marty Geist, my email address is ---
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1. Obtain radio shack part numbers 23-149 1000mAh Nicad Batteries (2),
270-382A 2 cell AA battery
holder.
2. Snip off the snap end, the plastic is a little brittle, so I used
Diagonal Cutters to cut
it off right where the flat plastic that holds the snaps
3 Snip off the spring from the snap part and place it in the bottom of
the cell holder.
4 Install the two NiCad batteries one with positive showing, one with
negative showing
5 Insert the assembly into the back of the calculator, you will have to
compress the springs
to get it to fit. The positive battery should touch the left terminal
in the calculator as
you are holding the calculator with the terminals up (upside-down),
viewing the back.
I use a slip of cardboard to close the back cut into a rectangle with
one tab on one side and
2 tabs that fit into the slots on the calculator. An X-Creditcard or
somthing of that same
thickness would work better.
Picked up the following items on Saturday (11/6) and it was a lot of work
for two old men as this System/34 is big and heavy.
IBM System/34 5340, IBM 5211-2 High Speed Printer 5211, MAI/IBM 548 Punch
card Interpreter with one programming board, 3-IBM 5251 Terminals, 2-IBM
Keyboards, 44-Manuals, 11-8" Diskettes with Diagnostic on them, Datacard
cabinet with several card decks inside (compilers, programs, etc.)
JOOI, are the traffic stats for classiccmp online anywhere? List traffic
seems to be unusually low the last few days, and for a few weeks before
that I'd been getting some messages anything up to a week late (although
I think the latter's probably due to the disk problems in the classiccmp
server).
Be nice if I could crossref how many posts classiccmp thinks it's sent
out to how many I've actually received here, just to check I'm not
losing mail (I'm just not sure how much faith I have in yahoo, it being
a free service!)
cheers
Jules
FYI email's still broken matey - I just got a bounce back from my
response to your earlier request for a test :-( New DNS provider time
for ya, I reckon!
(Apologies to everyone else for the OT!)
--
"We've had a lot of loonies around this place, but you're the first one
who thought the sunrise was made out of stale beer. Now are you going to
pick up your flute and leave, or shall I part your hair with this
crowbar?"
I just got a nice Mac Classic II, but it has a 1 1/2 " (inch!) scratch
in the front of
the CRT. I can't tell how deep the scratch is, but a finger nail
catches there.
Does anyone know what can be done to fix a bad scratch like that?
Am I in any real danger of the CRT imploding?
Someone suggested toothpaste (the white kind) any comments?
I am currently in the process of replacing my Amiga 2000's battery... On the
one I was finally able to remove there *seems* to be some damage to the
circuit board that was underneath and nearing the 68000. Instead of the
circuits being a nice green colour, it is now black. Is there any way to
tell if this is only a colour change? Also, it looks like some of the
copper has been eaten away around where the negative part of the battery
was soldered to the motherboard.
I have cleaned all of the white crap off with vinegar and a toothbrush. I
then used "Precision Electronics Cleaner" from RS which is _supposed_ to
leave no residue.
Also, how are the solder tabs affixed to the battery? The replacement
batteries I got don't have any.
Cheers,
Bryan Pope
I know some of you on this list work for various museums, or have
extensive enough collections that a proper asset management system might
be needed :-)
I've been working on one for the museum here for a while, with the goal
of making it easy to add information (so that museum staff aren't
tempted to not bother!) and easy to search / browse in a useful way.
(Heck knows we need a proper centralised 'list'!)
I've pretty much figured out what data's useful to capture, and how a UI
might work from the point of view of different user roles (maintenance /
administration / browsing etc.)
What I'm puzzling over is how to record any relationship between
hardware / software / documentation, or even to what extent any
relationship needs to be recorded. Thoughts on this would be most
appreciated, and I wonder what other museums do...
As an example, say we're given a Sinclair machine with some tape
software and some manuals. Obviously the machine needs an asset sticker
plonked on it and its details stuck in the register. The docs and
software also need recording in a DB somewhere such that we know what
software we have, and that we have x copies of such-and-such a doc (we'd
like to have a public-access library on site, and even lend docs out to
trusted people when possible)
Question is, do we link the docs and software to that particular
machine, or is it better to just put those in essentially isolated
databases and recording that they're for such-and-such a model of
machine?
And what's best for the odds and ends - power supplies, leads, packaging
etc.? Do they warrant recording / tagging somehow? And as for what to
do with donations of bits I don't know (e.g. when someone gives us a
stack of random DEC boards)
It gets to be a little more complex than a traditional museum where
there's a collection of distinct items - in this case there's a big
collection of stuff with a lot of interchangability (if that's a word)
between components, and so managing it all is something of a total
nightmare!
Maybe the idea of knowing exactly what we have at any one time is
impossible - but that's a shame if we've got some redundant bit of
hardware lurking in storage which we could donate to someone else who
desperately needed it to restore a system.
Ideas and comments would be *very* much appreciated!
cheers
Jules
On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 19:29 +0000, Alex White wrote:
>
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Jules Richardson wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:47 +0000, Alex White wrote:
> > > Want me to diagram it in UML?
> >
> > UML diag could be useful just to capture your thoughts, if it's a quick
> > job for you.
>
> http://www.microvax.org/~melt/computers/computerMuseum.png
grabbed a local copy - thanks :) Will take a proper look in a mo...
> I used qSEE Superlite if you want to grab the .qsee file from that
> directory. Free (0 quid) for noncommercial use, will generate ugly XML and
> Java from UML.
rats - no Windows around here :-)
> > I can't mail you privately by the way - NTL's bouncing the message with
> > a 'microvax.org not found' error, although it resolves via ping OK.
> > Dodgy MX record somewhere?
>
> Strange. I'm logged into mail.microvax.org right now in Pine and
> everything else is coming through fine. Maybe it's because i'm on an NTL
> residential line myself (yes, i'm breaking one of my own cardinal rules
> about hosting an email server on a residential line but it's for my own
> use only, and I can't afford any better right now). Strange stuff, though.
> Have poked my unreliable nameservice provider.
Hmm, I run my mail using the same setup; I send outgoing mail via a
local running sendmail and then to NTL's mailserver(s) though - the NTL
server's a smart relay host in my local sendmail config.
*very* occasionally I'll find I can't mail someone because their ISP
detects that the mail originated from a machine within a dynamic address
range, but by very occasionally I mean once every 6 months or so. And
that's me sending out from here anyway, not receiving.
I've never seen this problem before though; I rather suspect it was just
NTL's systems having a total spaz. If I remember (or prod me!) I'll see
you a test msg tomorrow and see if that goes through...
FWIW, yahoo's junk filter is flagging your messages as spam, so it
thinks something is up too (unfortunately it isn't useful enough to tell
me *why* it thinks it's spam)
cheers
Jules
Zsibvasar / GARAGE SALE !!!
I'm from Hungary, you can contact me at <hoild(a)amiga.hu> or via the
mailing list.
Shipping to abroad is manageable, however, as I'm in central europe,
shipping to asia or the US can get somewhat difficult.
The following items are for sale (or perhaps exchange, if you got
something I might want):
CISCO console cables, RJ-45 to RJ-45, RJ-45 to Dsub9, even a few adapters,
bleeh...
DEC Alpha soundport , part no.: #5424572 (has audio I/O jacks, TDA1517
amp, and slot for Hw wavetable module).
DEC Alpha Eth 10/100 module, part no.: #5424560 (has DP83840 and DP83223
xceiver, and UTP jack).
IBM frame buffer cable, part no.: "58F2903".
2 pcs. of B.A.T.M. BNC/m to RJ45/fm coax baluns, , part no.: "BMC-9303".
2 pcs. of AMPHENOL BNC/m to RJ45/fm balun, part no.: "555058-1".
SINIX keyboard adapter cable, part no.: "T26139-Y2370-V701 GSO2 GTL".
SUN serial cable, part no.: "530-1662-01 REV-52 0843-9113".
SUN serial cable, part no.: "530-1662-01 REV.50 0843-9024".
SCSI stuff
Sort of anything SCSI -- the list goes:
68pin UW SCSI mobile rack, brand new condition, still in packaging, by ViPower.
4 pcs. of LVD-capable 68 pin to SCA adapters (BEWARE - salvaged from IBM
RS6000 hot-swap racks, might or might not be standard wide2SCA, seems to
be std. enough, though).
2 pcs. of IBM RS6000 hot-swap Wide SCSI racks, 3 HDD/rack, part no.:
"61G3842", plus a weird wide SCSI to ??? twisted-pair cable and a power
distributor cable. Might be HVD equipment?
Wide to SCA adapter "XPL-065B v1.1", brand new, seems to be SE-only.
Wide and narrow to SCA adapter "XPL-065-C v1.0", brand new, seems to be SE-only.
Internal to external narrow SCSI port w./ Dsub25F ext. connector.
Internal to external narrow Fast narrow SCSI port w./ HDsub50M ext. connector.
Internal to external SE wide SCSI port with 30 cm long cable.
Wide SCSI to "Centronics" adapter with active negation, brand new.
External narrow SCSI HDsub50m to ??? (looks like a half-size Centronics,
definitely not the sub-mini "SUN" connector), brand new.
External narrow SCSI cable HDsub50M to Centronics M.
External narrow SCSI cable Centronics M to Centronics M.
External narrow SCSI cable Dsub25M to Centronics M.
2 pcs. of External narrow SCSI cable Dsub25M to Dsub25M, brand new, IOMEGA
brand, from ZIP drives.
160cm long narrow SCSI 'RAID' cable, 8 heads + active terminator.
Apple stuff
ADB expander, miniDIN4M to miniDIN4M, 120cm long spiralled cable(160cm max
length).
Mac to Sync-on-Green BNC display adapter-cable by FORMAC.
Mac to VGA adapter "MG65PMA", with display sense bit switches, I even have
the docs.
Exotic keyboards
Left-handed (kinda 'reversed') keyboard for ppl who like challenges,
high-quality mechanism, p/s2 compatible, practically brand new, .de
layout, NO WINDOWS KEYS! If I don't sell it, I might even consider
swapping the keycaps to Dvorak layout (this keyboard is freakish enough by
default, though).
"Type 5" SUN-compatible keyboard made by Solbourne Computer in Japan for
their SUN clones, US layout, good working condition, has both RJ-11 and
miniDIN connectors. SC assembled this keyboard in a smaller and more
compact case than genuine SUN-made Type5s, and for a time I was
considering to build the MCU-based p/s2 adapter I found online to be able
to use this nice keyboard with my thin client.
Bull Questar 303 keyboard, part no.: KBU 3031, US layout.
INTERGRAPH keyboard with RJ-11 jack, US layout.
RAM
*A buddy of mine has about 6 pieces of 64MB 60ns 72pin FPM w. parity SIMMs
for sale.
All these SIMMs came from HP 9000 boxes, and are BIG double-height bastards.
*I am looking for a 32MB 5V buffered ECC EDO DIMM, preferably of part no.:
"HP XU6/200 3554B", for my ProLiant 6500 quad PPro box -- this box uses
4-way interleaved memory and I have but 11 pcs., so I can't install the
3rd bank of RAM. Please tell me IF you can help.
2 pcs. of 16MB 5V buffered 60ns NP EDO DIMMs, IBM part no.: "92G7334".
One 16MB 5V buffered 60ns ECC DIMM, HP part no.: "1818-6485"
IEEE-488 stuff
Amazing range of IEEE-488 stuff, price varies (ie. what you got in
exchange?)
Physical interface adapters to/from different IEEE-488 aka GPIB alias
HP-IB connector standards, like IEC-625 <-> ANSI MC 1.1, gender changers,
whatever, several still in factory packaging.
Cables, extender cables, "hub" cables and adapter cables. Ask.
Also an Addonics IND-311 (ISA) host card w. mint condition manual.
PeeCee junk
A fat dozen ISA cards and some PCI ones.
NICs (Eth and TokenRing), I/O, VGA, VGA+EGA, CGA, ASUS SuperMulti VLB card
with IDE + SVGA + i/o ports, like-brand-new 120 MB Maxtor PIO Mode-0 HDD
(from a factory sealed ESCOM 386 PC I found and salvaged).
Voodoo3 3000 PCI.
SIGMA "REALmagic" DVD/home-theater card, compatible with 'libDXR3' in
linux, supported by mplayer and xine -- provides accelerated video
post-processing + AAC playback in Hw + a generic '/dev/pcm' soundport with
analogue and digital (coax) sound outputs in a single PCI slot.
That's all!
Hoild^UNC
http://www.newcomer.hu
On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:47 +0000, Alex White wrote:
>
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Jules Richardson wrote:
>
> > What I'm puzzling over is how to record any relationship between
> > hardware / software / documentation, or even to what extent any
> > relationship needs to be recorded. Thoughts on this would be most
> > appreciated, and I wonder what other museums do...
> >
> > Question is, do we link the docs and software to that particular
> > machine, or is it better to just put those in essentially isolated
> > databases and recording that they're for such-and-such a model of
> > machine?
>
> Record make and model that the main machine itself, docco, boards etc
> apply to and also record an overall asset ID for the entire shipment
> itself which links into a seperate table for information about who,
> where, history of etc a shipment (machine, some manuals and a few tapes)
> came from.
>
> Manuals and bits can float around in the collection but can be tracked
> back together as a complete "gift" from a person.
>
> Want me to diagram it in UML?
UML diag could be useful just to capture your thoughts, if it's a quick
job for you.
I can't mail you privately by the way - NTL's bouncing the message with
a 'microvax.org not found' error, although it resolves via ping OK.
Dodgy MX record somewhere?
cheers
Jules
I just came into a rather load of several hundred used 5.25" DD floppies.
There is no way I want to hoard them all. It is a mixed bag of SS, DS, 48 TPI,
96 TPI, brand names, generics, unlabelled, some have been double-notched, etc.
There are also some boxes of new disks still in shrinkwarp (3M mostly. Some
Kodak). Most seem to have been Apple II and C64 stuff. Anyway, if your in the
market for a fairly good sized lot (say 50+) of untested disks cheap, drop me a
line.
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Actually I'm not quite sure how old the machine is - maybe it is ten
years old now and so on topic just...
Anyhow, are there any experts out there who know if a specific version
of HPUX is needed to run with SMP support on an HP 9000 T500?
We've got a 6-CPU T500 at the museum with HPUX 11.xx on it, but
according to the status LEDs it's just running everything on the one CPU
with the other 5 sitting idle.
Possibilities that spring to mind:
a) as above, it's a version / installation issue
b) it's a licensing thing and there's no way of using standard HPUX
media on a multi-CPU machine without paying HP lots of money (boo!)
c) the machine or HPUX is a bit funny in the way it handles multiple
CPUs and we need force processes to run on a specific CPU via some
command, rather than it being transparently handled by the CPU
d) user stupidity (none of us really know much about the machine and nor
are we HPUX experts)
Option d would probably be preferable - we can always learn :) Option
b's obviously the least desirable and would result in us looking at
Linux for the machine I think!
Anyone worked with these beasts before and know offhand what the problem
might be? (we've got HPUX 11 media by the way; but as stated maybe not a
version that's truly compatible with a multi-CPU machine)
Being able to force stuff to run on a specific CPU from a shell would
actually be beneficial, as I have an idea to do a bit of distributed
raytracing on the machine for giggles (6 CPUs is good, but 90MHz each
IIRC is less so :-)
ta
Jules
Does anyone know of any online resources containing rough prices for
mechanical and early electronic calculators?
I need to sort out some insurance details for some of the museum
collection, and whilst I can come up with ballpark figures for the big
iron and ebay's a good source for prices for common 8 bitters, it
doesn't help for some of the early (and rare) mechanical / electronic
calculators.
Are there any good online resources out there, even if prices are a
little out of date? (In particular I'd like to put a value on some of
our Sumlock and Anita stuff)
Out of interest, my general insurance thoughts are: The insurance value
should really cover the costs of finding something of similar "value" in
the event of a lost item being unobtainable. So it needs to cover
purchase cost, shipping cost, additional purchase of any
manuals/docs/software as necessary, and of someone's time to commission
the item and learn how it works. In other words, it's more than the
simple "but it on ebay" value. Thoughts, anyone?
cheers
Jules
--
"We've had a lot of loonies around this place, but you're the first one
who thought the sunrise was made out of stale beer. Now are you going to
pick up your flute and leave, or shall I part your hair with this
crowbar?"