- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I forward both Ebay and Paypal spoofs to spoof(a)ebay.com or spoof(a)paypal.com. they then check them out and notify me if they are fake or real. A couple of times I have forwarded regular traffic to the spoof notice and got a return email telling me it is not a spoof. I hope this helps them find the source. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Santa, for Christmas I would like

by james＠jdfogg.com

Something blue and white and it says Data General on the front. If it says MV it would be even nicer. Does anyone see these anymore? My brother was one of the developers of AOS/VS and I would really like to restore one.

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Wired running SGI Article

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 17:17, Jochen Kunz wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:50:04 GMT > Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > > I have three Indigos (left out of six), > Dead PSUs? At the Unix-AG we had six Indigos. Only one is alive. The > other machines died the suden PSU death. No, I have three left becasue I cleaned up and refurbished the others: one to a listmember, and two to ex-colleagues who used to use them extensively. The PSUs are easy to repair. > At home I have two Personal Iris (a 4D30 and a loaded 4D35), A R4k with > the simple LG1 framebuffer and a R3k Indigo without GFX. A R4k4-150 > Indy, a R4k4-200 Extreme Indogo2, a R10k-195 Impact Indigo2 (the machine > I am sitting in front of right now) and an Octane. (R12k-300, ESSI + ESI > dual head, 2 GB RAM, PCI card cage with additional SCSI and FDDI, total > of 36 GB disk, CD-RW, DLT) I have an Indy R4400SC-150 as well. I was always rather disappointed with its speed, though; it's considerably slower than most of the other Indys. I never liked the look of the Indigo^2 so I don't have any of those. I'd like your Octane, though,if you ever get tired of it ;-) > > and a 16-processor x 180MHz R10K Origin2000. > A Origin2000 is nice, but I would prefere an Onyx2000. ;-) :-) The O2K I helped look after in Computer Science was a 32 processor unit and it had a graphics unit. Nothing like Onyx graphics, but I would have liked that. > > > What I really want one of these days is a nice Dual Processor Octane > > > with R12000 CPU's. > > Have you heard one? Have you got a pair of comfortable ear defenders? > He. I have an extra machine room and run extension cables through the > wall. So I don't care about noise. :-) Ditto for my Origin (and the PDPs etc). The machine room is an extension to the house, and I have UTP, serial lines, thinwire, and fibre between m/c room and office. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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VAX 11/725

by aek＠spies.com

I have one. it's a big paperweight without the microcode tape.. -- will these work with a tu58 simulation on a 725? http://colo.heeltoe.com/download/vax/

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ZX81 denigrated! (was Re: Approaches to projects)

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 16:28 27/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > >> What's this love of the ZX81, which I regard as a postively horrible >> machine. I'd not rip one apart, though, mainly because there's little of >> use to raid from it... > >You regard it as horrible because . . . ? Aside from keyboard ;-) CPU intensive video design - lose video when program running (or SSLLOOWW mode for ZX81). This also makes it highly dependant on the internal firmware, so that it's tough to adapt other Z80 software systems to run on it. "RF only", and poorly shielded computer make it tough to get decent TV display. Limited internal RAM - and expansion very prone to connector problems/flakiness (practically useless without an external keyboard so that you didn't have to touch the machine while it was running). Slightly odd dialect of BASIC. Never did like the use of single-key "shift" keywords (although this is essential given the keyboard) - also a matter of taste, so this cannot be considered a "fault". But... I still consider the ZX80/81 a rather interesting and innovative design, because it truly was designed to get "something from almost nothing". Most of the items listed above are just the "nature of the beast" - given what it was (the lowest price entry on the block) and to be *VERY* cheap to manufacture. I know guys who did a *LOT* with their ZX80 - they are a capable machine. But, their limitations make them look very poor when compared to other more traditional designs. To appreciate the ZX, you need to keep in mind that it is SUPPOSED to be a very minimal machine. It makes more sense as an alternative to a programmable calculator than as an alternative to a word processing or serious software development machine. The only really bad thing about the ZX is that I think a lot of people bought it expecting more than it had to offer... Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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analog computer support information

by adomsr＠yahoo.com

I'm Ahmed and I have the following analog computer Comdyna GP-6 and I want to implement a high order control transfer function, but I do not know how to rescale of the gain coeffecients fro the high order TFs. so, we send you this letter to help us in this point if it possible. Thank you very much AHMED --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! – What will yours do?

21 years, 4 months

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Programmer's calculator

by unibus＠gmail.com

> >On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Fred Cisin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Tom Peters wrote: > > > > > I had a TI Programmer LED model. It died a horrible death. I don't know > > > > That is a really nice calculator, IFF you can plug it in. > > > > Battery life is negligible. > > > I've heard that before and its not true, at least with the model I > > have. I get > > > around 1.5 to 2 years out of one 9V battery in mine, always on my desk, > > used > > > every couple of days. It does turn itself off after a short period of > > > inactivity (1 minute or so - first rotating decimal point pattern then off) > > > >It certainly IS "TRUE"! > >The battery life of THREE that I have had has always been HOURS, NOT > >YEARS. Can I point out that there are two battery pacs for the TI Programmer (LED version). Battery life with the rechargeable NiCad pac is woeful, about 2 months for me on a charge with modern aftermarket NiCads. The 9V Eveready alkaline battery that has been in the calculator all this year, hasn't died yet. I've had this calculator since new and never had any problems. Must admit the calculator doesn't get much use these days. > > > >OTOH, the LCD model gives years on batteries. > > > > > > > > > what became of it. I have the model that replaced it, a TI > > Programmer II, > > > > > an LCD model. > > > > The LCD model has great battery life. It's batteries often > > > > outlast the life of the keyboard. > > > > If you want something SMALLER, the Casio CFX40/CFX400 is > > > > fantastic IFF you have excellent eyesight and good desterity. > > > Peter Wallace

21 years, 4 months

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Heath/Zenith Floppies

by marvin＠rain.org

A 3 day listing for 30 Heath/Zenith floppy disks is on ebay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5143525068 The current bid is $2.00.

21 years, 4 months

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ASR-33 / PDP-11 question

by wacarder＠usit.net

Ok, I need to call in the experts. I have had much success lately in getting my PDP-11/34 system hooked up to multiple peripherals, running RSTS/E V7. I have RL02, RK05, multiple VT52s, LA36, VT100 all working running timesharing, terminals all connected via EIA DZ11. I added a 20mA DZ11, which is recognized by RSTS, and it uses 8 more KB numbers, with 8 less "unrecognized devices". The EIA DZ11 uses KB3 through KB10. I have configured the lines that I'm using so that the terminal characteristics are set properly by $TTYSET to match the terminal types when the system starts. The 20mA DZ11 uses KB11 through KB18. I want to connect my ASR-33 to the second terminal connector on the distribution panel, therefore it should be KB12 to RSTS. My problem is that I am now attempting to connect my ASR-33, which works just fine is local mode. I am using phone wire, connecting wires from the DZ11 connectors 1,2,3, and 4 to connectors 3,4,6,and 7 respectively on the ASR33 terminal strip. My info tells me that: DZ11 1 = Receive + = ASR33 7 DZ11 2 = Receive - = ASR33 6 DZ11 3 = Transmit - = ASR33 3 DZ11 4 = Transmit + = ASR33 4 Something must be working right because if the 11/34 is not on and the ASR33 is turned on in "online" mode, it sits there and "clicks" repeatedly. However, it stops this clicking when the 11/34 is powered on. I checked the lines and there is a 20mA +/- current on the lines. The problem is that when I type on the ASR33, it does not echo, and when I use RSTS to send characters to the ASR 33, it does not respond. This ASR33 works perfectly in local mode. Anyone on the list have a clue what's wrong before I dig deeper? Is there something obvious that I've done wrong? The ASR33 is supposed to be working. I have configured the ASR33 on KB12 to 110 baud using $TTYSET, but no luck. Just to be sure, I set all 8 KBs, KB11-KB18 to use ASR33 terminal chracteristics. Help would be much appreciated. Ashley

21 years, 4 months

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ZX81 denigrated! (was Re: Approaches to projects)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 28 2004, 18:14, Tony Duell wrote: > > Yes, I would agree. I still keep mine, though I've hardly ever used > > it. > > I'm keeping mine too (although I only ever powered it up once to check it > was working...). It is a significant UK home computer. But the reason I > bought it was to get the Philips 'Pocket Portable' compact cassette > recorder that was used with it. It was one of the first ccompact assette > recorders, and I happen to like Philips stuff anyway... Sounds like mine. The one I have is a replacement, but almost identical to the one my Dad bought in the mid-60s. It's about 115mm wide x 55mm thick x 200mm long; it has three DIN sockets on the left-hand side, and a red button for recording, a sort of joystick knob to control the tape motion, and a tiny level meter all on the top front panel. It takes five C-size cells. It originally came with a slightly larger leather carrying case that had space for the microphone and a power pack. Still doing sterling service on a BBC Micro and an Exidy Sorcerer, though it's about as old as their combined ages. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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Wired running SGI Article

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 28 2004, 7:50, Lyle Bickley wrote: > My Onyx is linked to a Sun NFS/DNS server which unfortunately has a SAS FDDI > device - so my FDDI setup does not make a proper ring either. Sigh... > > I'm on the lookout for a FDDI switch with both dual and single capability - > but so far haven't stumbled across one for a price I'm willing to pay... If I find anything, I'll let you know. I was disgusted to discover, a couple of years ago, that our Chemistry Department threw out several nice FDDI switches about a year or two previously, because they thought nobody would want FDDI any more :-( This statement came from the guy who gave me my first Indigo (and a few other machines, at other times)! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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HP Paintjet stepper motor driver IC

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

I've got an HP Paintjet printer on the bench (this is on-topic, it seems to have been made in 1986 or so). I've figured out most of it (even the PSU section with a complex custom DIL resistor pack), but I can't indentify the driver chip for the linefeed motor, which is a 4-input unipolar stepper motor. Anyway, the driver chip is marked 1820-4864 (too late for my equivalents list). It would seem to be a quad power driver chip rather than a stepprr motor controller, as it takes in 4 bits from one of the microocntroller ports. The pins, as I've traced them seem to be : 1 Input 2 +5V 3 Output 4 N/C 5 Input 6 +5V 7 Output 8 Ground 9 Clamp 10 Output 11 Input 12 +5V 13 Output 14 Input 15 +5V 16 +5V It's a normal 16 pin DIL package (no heatsink tabs or anything). I usspect, without prood, that it's actually 4 separate stages, AND or NAND functionality, : 1 & 2 -> 3, 5 * 6 -> 7, 12 & 11 -> 10, 15 & 14 -> 13 Does that pinout ring any bells with anyone? It's not any of the chips in my TI Interface Databook.. -tony

21 years, 4 months

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Greenbar paper

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 28 2004, 14:31, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Our library announced they had some to get rid of a few days ago. If > > it's not been claimed I could get you some, but the boxes are heavy so > > expect to pay quite a lot for shipping. > > > Can you get me the postcode? One of my mates runs up and down to > Birmingham every week and can probably be persuaded to make a detour. > Especially since I'm doing his wheelbearings for him next weekend... It would be a sizeable detour, from Brimingham to York. The postcode is YO10 5DD, and if he has satnav, he'd be looking for Grid Ref SE 622 506 or 53? 56.9' north (53.9477?), 1? 3.1' west (-1.0523?). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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MOS 6545 Application Notes

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

Rich, I have a Synertek SY6545 CRT Controller applications note (AN3 July 1980). It is about 24 pages, I can scan it tomorrow. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley > > Someone contacted me and asked if I had ever seen an "application > notes" document for the MOS 6545 CRT controller chip. I don't have it; all > that I have is the data sheet. > > If anyone has this, please let me know. Thanks. > > Rich >

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ZX81 denigrated! (was Re: Approaches to projects)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 18:54, Dave Dunfield wrote: > At 16:28 27/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > > > >> What's this love of the ZX81, which I regard as a postively horrible > >> machine. I'd not rip one apart, though, mainly because there's little of > >> use to raid from it... > > > >You regard it as horrible because . . . ? > > Aside from keyboard ;-) > > CPU intensive video design - lose video when program running (or SSLLOOWW > mode for ZX81). > > This also makes it highly dependant on the internal firmware, so that it's > tough to adapt other Z80 software systems to run on it. > > "RF only", and poorly shielded computer make it tough to get decent TV display. I wonder if that's becasue it's VHF? UHF ones I've seen here aren't *too* bad, and it's trivial to add a composite video lead. > Limited internal RAM - and expansion very prone to connector problems/flakiness > (practically useless without an external keyboard so that you didn't have to > touch the machine while it was running). Yu can replace the internal RAM. > Slightly odd dialect of BASIC. Slightly?!*! > But... I still consider the ZX80/81 a rather interesting and innovative design, > because it truly was designed to get "something from almost nothing". Most of > the items listed above are just the "nature of the beast" - given what it was > (the lowest price entry on the block) and to be *VERY* cheap to manufacture. Yes, I would agree. I still keep mine, though I've hardly ever used it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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Masscomp computers?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone on this list play with the Masscomp computers? Joe

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MOS 6545 Application Notes

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hi: Someone contacted me and asked if I had ever seen an "application notes" document for the MOS 6545 CRT controller chip. I don't have it; all that I have is the data sheet. If anyone has this, please let me know. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

21 years, 4 months

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Wired running SGI Article

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 13:01, Lyle Bickley wrote: > I always have tried to collect/restore those systems with the best graphics > and video options... > > In my SGI collection I have: > > Qty. Description That's a nice collection, especially the second Onyx. FDDI, too (I have FDDI on my Origin and two Indys and an FDDI-ATM bridge but unfortunately the Indys are SAS devices so it doesn't make a proper ring). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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Free : Centronics ribbons

by birs23＠zeelandnet.nl

Free for postage a bunch of unused Centronics ribbons for the models 400, 455, 800, 855. Reorder number on the box is 44688116 Stefan. ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.oldcomputercollection.com

21 years, 4 months

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Greenbar paper

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 10:59, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > I apologise if this question has been done to death, but is there > anywhere in the UK I can get 14 7/8" greenbar paper? Our library announced they had some to get rid of a few days ago. If it's not been claimed I could get you some, but the boxes are heavy so expect to pay quite a lot for shipping. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Wired running SGI Article

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 18:53, Jules Richardson wrote: > On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 12:50 +0000, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > and a 16-processor x 180MHz R10K Origin2000. > > I thought you only had 8 in that thing! :-) You only saw one module and one FC-RAID box; there's a second one at work, in the proper O2K rack with some more PCI cards, a couple of XIO cards, an Origin Vault, and a bunch more Craylink cables. > I'm thinking our R5K Indy with the 24bit board might be useful as a > front-end for some ray tracing exhibit - I think it's the only 'old' > machine we have with 24 bit colour. > > We've just got that machine, a pair of R4K Indys (one with a duff CPU so > spares only) I may have a spare CPU module. > The latter three still only have one keyboard to share between them > though :-( I'll try to remember to count my keyboards and see if I have a spare. > It'd be nice to find an O200 or O2000 someday! > > > The O2K is currently split into two units, one at home (with all the > > extra bits'n'bobs) and one on loan to a research unit at the > > University. > > Aha! :) I'll remember you said that if I need to find space to keep the O2K rack :-) > > And work have stopped buying/suuporting SGI :-( > > does that mean you'll be clearing them out of all things SGI? ;-) Depends. Several departments have SGIs of their own, which they keep running even though we no longer provide support for them, as of this summer. They're mostly Indys and a few O2s, but there's the odd Power Challenge etc. We have a bunch of O2s which were classroom machines, and were retired in the summer, but I'm not sure yet what will happen to them. I might be able to get you one or two. They're low-spec, though: R5K-180, 4GB disks, mostly only 64MB RAM. Most of us in CompServ who have O2s are keeping them :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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Old Unibus PDP-11 items needed

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27 2004, 11:51, Ashley Carder wrote: > I am looking for the following old PDP-11 unibus modules: > > * M7237 - Stack limit register for PDP-11/35 and 11/40 I've been looking for one of those for several years, too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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TU80 error 65?

by aek＠spies.com

according to the tu81 diag pathfinder it's a formatter read board health check fault the cdc 92181 docs only go up to 61 as well.

21 years, 4 months

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M9312 boot roms (again)

by squidster3128＠yahoo.com

Hello, Sorry to beat this old horse again, but did anybody set up a repository for M9312 boot images since the last discussion? (I actually went to look for them in www.classiccmp.org/M9312, and Pete's DECROM repository doesn't seem to have the 23-xxxA9 M9312 roms) I need some of them, specifically the DU, DX, and DY. Question: Is the DY (supposed for RX02) able to boot RX01s too? /wai-sun ===== /wai-sun __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

21 years, 4 months

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HP junk at Apex Electronics (Sun Valley, CA)

by tomj＠wps.com

Wuz at apex today, I mentally noted the HP stuff tyhat's been there forever. Manuals for 9600c (binder 9), a bunch (4? 8?) 9825 manuals and software, basic, pascal, etc, plus a "terminal emulator" with a set of cartridges/tapes in plastic page holders in a binder. I don't have enough cash riught now to front this stuff. It's where all the manuals are. Plus, if you go to buy them all once, the price will skyrocket, as per standard surplus culture, so you'll have to go and take one, two at a time, etc. That Tek repackaged PDP11 thing is still there too. 8" floppy and a 8" hard disk. No monitor present. Looks clean. I wrote about it before; I don't recall the model, but search for 'apex' and tomj in archives.

21 years, 4 months

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Greenbar paper

by cb＠mythtech.net

> I don't know about the UK but here in the US the stuff still shows up in >the surplus and trift stores fairly regularly. At least around here (northern NJ), I still see greenbar in the office supply stores from time to time. Usually just one case, sitting, well beaten, in the corner by the rest of the paper. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 4 months

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Info needed- Intel 8024A Multibus SBC

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I looked in my intel 1990 book and it looks just like the ISBC 80/24A card in the book with a 8085-2 processor and ISBX connectors for the Mezz card. Normally the card has edge card connectors on top. It looks like someone soldered header connectors to the edgecard ones. I just got an Intel 80-10 rackmount chassis with a 80/10 processor (8080 chip), a National Semiconductor 2 port memory card, an analog devices RTI 1200 and an intel SBC-108 combination mem & I/O expansion. Looks like it needs some cleaning to get it fired up. Paxton Astoria

21 years, 4 months

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Apollos again - and an HP2115A

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

rah! Rummaging through the piles of HP stuff today on the offchance that there were any Apollo bits paid off. Unearthed four DN3000 series machines in a box complete with three mice and Domain keyboards - that explains where the stray Domain keyboard I found the other week must have come from! Two of the machines are (strangely) missing fronts, and one's just badged as a 3000 whilst the other is a 3010. All appear to have disks (hopefully they have all the necessary boards too). I'll have access to a van tomorrow so I'll shift them up to the museum and take a look inside... No sign of manuals or install media yet, but I'm only about a third of the way through the pile. Also, what the heck's an HP 2115A? Found one earlier all nicely boxed and wrapped up, plus possibly a second one (it's too buried under more modern HP stuff to get to it yet!). Looks like a rather nice machine! Perfect condition too - I'll take that up to the museum tomorrow too so it's all nice and cosy :) cheers Jules

21 years, 4 months

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Greenbar paper

by gordon＠gjcp.net

I apologise if this question has been done to death, but is there anywhere in the UK I can get 14 7/8" greenbar paper? Gordon.

21 years, 4 months

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Traling-Edge

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

www.trailing-edge.com has been down for 2 Days. Not that I desperately need anything from there, but it's unusual. Has anybody heard from Tim Shoppa? Doc

21 years, 4 months

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Wired running SGI Article

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 26 2004, 22:25, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >One of these days I will have to check out an old SGI to see what the fuss > >was about. > > I have two o2's, one of them is a lowly R5000 180Mhz system (the more > pathetic of the two 180Mhz models) with 160MB RAM. This system can > handle *HEAVY* loads more gracefully than any other system I've use, > and X-Windows is unbelievably smooth, even under these heavy loads. > The other is an R12000 270Mhz system, and even better :^) I have three Indigos (left out of six), of which one is an R4K with the full Elan graphics, and one has the "Song and Dance Machine" graphics board; six Indys ranging from an early 100MHz R4000PC to a 150MHz R5KSC; two O2s, one of which is a 180MHz R5K, the other being an R10K with the audio/video unit; and a 16-processor x 180MHz R10K Origin2000. The O2K is currently split into two units, one at home (with all the extra bits'n'bobs) and one on loan to a research unit at the University. It has no graphics of its own, but even running X over the network, it's nice :-) I've been using SGIs since 1994, and my R5K Indy is the one I originally bought secondhand in 1995 for UKP2200. Then, it was a 133MHz R4600SC with 64MB RAM, a 1GB disk and 8-bit graphics. It's been upgraded a few times and now has 24-bit graphics (see my friend's page at http://www.jfc.org.uk/documents/indy_gfx.html and you'll understand why two of my Indys have crippled graphics cards), 256MB RAM, a lot more disk space, and a few extras. It still runs 24/7, acts as my main desktop machine, and provides NFS and Samba file services, print services, SMTP, IMAP and SpamAssassin, and a few minor things, for the rest of the machines on my home net. It could do with being a bit faster, but it's doing very well for a ten-year-old machine. > What I really want one of these days is a nice Dual Processor Octane > with R12000 CPU's. Have you heard one? Have you got a pair of comfortable ear defenders? Have you seen the articles on futuretech about modifying an R5K2 O2 for a (much) faster processor? > What I'd really like is a nice new Quad Processor > R16000A-based Tezro, but there is no way I can afford a brand new SGI > Workstation. Me neither, unfortunately :-( And work have stopped buying/suuporting SGI :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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TU80 error 65?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Anyone happen to know what error code 65 means on the display of a TU80? According to the technical docs we have, it doesn't exist - they list as far as 61, then skip to 70 - grrr! cheers Jules

21 years, 4 months

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Old Unibus PDP-11 items needed

by wacarder＠usit.net

Hello all, I am looking for the following old PDP-11 unibus modules: * M7237 - Stack limit register for PDP-11/35 and 11/40 * M7891 - MOS memory modules, preferably 64K or 128K I have some items that I would be willing to trade. Among these are some 16 sector RK05 packs and some 11/34 CPU boards and other odds and ends. Thanks, Ashley

21 years, 4 months

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Info needed- Intel 8024A Multibus SBC

by chenmel＠earthlink.net

Hello all, I recently picked up a couple of Intel 8085-based Multibus processor boards. These are branded Intel and are marked 8024A. They are NOT the 80/24 board, which I have been able to find info for. Judging from datecodes, they are aprox. 1990 in age. They have a Microdesigins, Inc. mezzanine card plugged into them called uDS-221 Multifunction Multimodule which adds serial I/O, battery backed SRAM, and a real time clock function. I am looking for info to get these boards up and running. Seem like nice Intel processor cards. Here are some pix of the cards (taken and uploaded halfway through composing this message): The 8024a board alone: http://sasteven.multics.org/8024a.jpg The board with RTC mezzanine card plugged in: http://sasteven.multics.org/8024a_both.jpg The RTC mezzanine card alone: http://sasteven.multics.org/8024a_RTC.jpg Any info would be greatly appreciated. These three photos are hereby granted to the public domain. (use them as you wish) Scott

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Sale of "free" stuff on eBay

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I was browsing eBay and I came across this listing in my "S100" search: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5142045885& rd=1 A few months back, I bought a CD from Dynacomp Software because it had a bunch of Altair manuals on it that I didn't have. This is, of course, before I found Bitsavers and Harte Technologies, which has all that I could want on the documentation side. Anyway, when this guy was selling only Volume 1 and 2, he was also selling the original manuals, so I thought that this guy was OK. As time went on, he began to sell other compilation CDs but not the manuals, so I concluded that he began clipping files from all over the Web and selling them on CDs. A little unsavory, but, well, what can one do? Tonight, I looked at Volume 5 and in the CD table of contents (link above), I see "altair32 Project Altair Emulator.zip" and two other related listings. As you all know, this is my baby and this person never had the courtesy to ask my permission to distribute my albeit free software. Am I crazy here? Should I contact this guy and ask him to remove it? Should I ask him to place a link to the project page instead? How about modifying the listing to include a "permission granted" message? Any thoughts on this? Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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How much do you know about computers?

by unibus＠gmail.com

Got bored, so I wrote up some old iron and current tech questions. Bit difficult for the PC users. http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=11889246703387700628

21 years, 4 months

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test, please ignore

by news＠computercollector.com

===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit our web site for lots of extra content: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 600 readers and counting!

21 years, 4 months

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Found: PDP-11 boot loader ROM's

by aek＠spies.com

Bob, I could use these to fill in a few that are missing from the archive. Spec, 753 759 and 761 If you have a prom programmer, I'd like to get the images of these from you.

21 years, 4 months

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was identity theft - now international transfers

by Innfogra＠aol.com

>What problems are there with the "international postal money order"? >Can't you still get those at the local USPS office? > The only International money orders the US Post office will cash are their own and Canadian post. I know because I took a Japanese Postal International Money order once and the US Post wouldn't have anything to do with it. It was legitimate but I ended up having to deposit it to cash it. I do take Canadian Postal Money Orders now. I have used the interbank for international money transfer once and it worked easily. I seem to remember that I had my credit union generate a transaction number along with the interbank number that I sent to the person purchasing the item. A couple of days later the money showed up in my Credit Union Account. However it cost me $10 for the transaction on my side, which I had the customer pay, after all he wanted to pay by wire transfer. Nowadays I take Western Union Wire transfers, Western Union International Money Orders, Bidpay, Paypal or US dollars (Cash) for international purchases. I do not take Certified or Bank Checks, especially for amounts greater than the purchase. And I do not ship until I am certain I have payment. Lately, in posting a HP110 outfit on the HP Museum's for sale site I received three fraudulent offers, and one serious one. Two of the offers were to purchase it with a certified check for a set amount, much more than the item and then have me forward the HP110 and the extra money on to them. The third fraudulent offer was a blatant offer to let me pad the invoice with other goods, name my own price, and get paid by a certified check. I was very disappointed to see that amount of scamming on the bulletin board. All were internationally based scams and easy to recognize, though. Paxton Astoria, Oregon USA

21 years, 4 months

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IBANs (Was: FYI: Identity Theft)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 26 2004, 17:53, meltie lists wrote: > > I just went to my bank (HSBC) in the UK to pay about 39 euros to an IBAN > in Germany. Bank fees were 9 pounds sterling! OUCH!! Ouch! That's a *lot*. Last time I paid using IBAN it cost a fraction of that (but it was using the University's account; maybe they have different terms). My experience in sending money to the States, for what it's worth, is that bank transfers are most expensive, Western Union wire transfers are slightly better, BidPay is much cheaper (well, less expensive), credit cards (if the seller accepts them directly) are pretty good, PayPal is cheapest, and sending cash is pretty cheap but I'm wary of sending cash by mail, especially airmail. I have accounts with more than one bank, for historical reasons, and one of them offered to create me a Euro account when I complained that their "inexpensive" charges for sending money to Europe were umpteen times what a Eurocheque would have cost. It turned out that made individual transfers cheap but the account maintenance charges more than made up for that unless I had quite a high balance. It seems that the UK is just not the place to be if you want to buy stuff from abroad :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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'Wilkes Microsystems'

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Anyone know anything about these? The machine in question's a big floor- standing machine, looks to be circa 1980 - grey / pale blue shell, about the size of a PDP 11/84. There's a possibility that the unit's a rebadged Pr1me of some kind, although that may just be due to the fact that some Pr1me manuals were laying nearby more than anything :-) I'm trying to decide whether to say yay or nay based on the one photo, so some info about Wilkes would sure be handy! cheers Jules

21 years, 4 months

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IBANs (Was: FYI: Identity Theft)

by lists＠microvax.org

I just went to my bank (HSBC) in the UK to pay about 39 euros to an IBAN in Germany. Bank fees were 9 pounds sterling! OUCH!! To keep this on-topic, I was paying for a Norsk Data 10 operator control panel. Yum, lamps and toggles. The girlfriend said I should work out a way to drive it, and hang it on the wall :o) alex/melt

21 years, 4 months

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VCF 7.0 Pictures

by wayne.smith＠charter.net

I have posted a few pictures taken during VCF 7.0 at http://webpages.charter.net/jpepperman/VCF%207.0.html. -W

21 years, 4 months

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Found : two TK50 tapes with Microvax II S/W

by trash3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I have a MVII with a working tk50 and a couple of MV3100s and 4000 systems, all with tz30 drives. I am archiving my 60+ TK50 tapes to better media and I would be glad to add the two tapes to the pile. You go back a ways. I know Neil pretty well and have dealt with him for about 20 years. Back then, Heffron's was a pretty neat used electronics place... I'm in Boston a couple of days a week. joe Heck

21 years, 4 months

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Sale of "free" stuff on eBay

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Michael Nadeau" <menadeau(a)comcast.net> > >> > Subject: Re: Sale of "free" stuff on eBay >> >> > The contents on your site are clearly copyrighted, so this guy is out of >> > bounds. The first step is to ask him to remove the item from eBay. A lot >of >> > people don't understand copyright. They assume it applies only to >material >> > that is for sale. So, be polite and explain that you own the right to >> > determine how and where the software is distributed. >> > >> > If he does not comply, then I would file a complaint with eBay. Failing >> > that, a letter from a lawyer is often effective. >> >> To what end, this? It's a bit scorched-earth don't you think? > >That's the question that the copyright holder needs to answer. I'm just >giving the options. In most cases, things are resolved in a friendly manner. >> Hi As a Copyright holder, he needs to defend his copyright or anyone who took it to court would use this case to show that it was not being upheld. His letter might be construed as permission to publish. His wording might have been a little different. ( I'm not a lawyer and this is just personal opinion ). With most everything I've sent out, I'm just happy to see people using it. If I'd expected to have any control, I'd have sold licenses. Dwight

21 years, 4 months

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Software for Apple I

by owad＠applefritter.com

I'm writing a book about building an Apple I replica, going to press in January (Syngress Publishing). I'd like to include a fairly large section on software. Does anybody have any programs for the Apple I which they'd be willing to see included? These could be old, historic programs or new programs you wrote yourself. Anybody who contributes will get a copy of the book, of course. Tom -- Applefritter - Obscure, Unusual, Exceptional <www.applefritter.com> Painted Bytes - Original iBook Artwork <www.paintedbytes.com>

21 years, 4 months

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Sale of "free" stuff on eBay

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 12:04 25/11/2004 -0800, you wrote: >On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Dave Dunfield wrote: > >> As noted above, this is not directed to a particular person ... And I DO >> have a great deal of respect for Al and others like him. And no dispute >> that these people are preserving important documents. But, anyone who >> takes the attitude "only to be distributed by download from my site" is >> NOT making them available to EVERYONE - it prevents me from obtaining >> much of the larger material (and doc scans tend to be large :-) No >> matter how well information is preserved, it is of no benefit if it is >> unobtainable. > >You are looking at it from your own point of view. I'm not going to speak >for Al, but I'm sure he would want you to get what you need in whatever >way is most convenient for you. Al's gripe was with the person who was >making money off of his work and not making even a simple reference to Al >for making his "product" possible. Al did not take the attitude that you >are projecting. So again, I say show some respect by at least getting >your facts straight. ... Its you who keeps attaching Al's name to this discussion.... but UNCLE - UNCLE - I hereby APOLOGIZE to any and all involved for having used a bad example - The intent was to show how material being excluded from a CD had prevented me from having easy access to it, with a personal observation that doing so can deviate from often stated goals of making the material available to everyone (please note: I am not suggesting that that any specific person anywhere has or has not made this statement, and if anyone has in fact made this statement, that it may or may not have been inline with the intent of my bad example). Clearly I should not think up examples near the end of a rant. Also, since we are examining this particular bad example so closely, I should also say that it may not have been in this list, it could have been in one of the newsgroups (perhaps comp.os.cpm) - again, my error (at the time it didn't seem an important detail as I was not mentioning names) - so lets amend the orignal statement to "somebody somewhere at some time and for some reason (justified or not), requested that their material be excluded from a DVD that I subsequently obtained, and this means that I don't have ready access to that material due to the fact that I can not download large items from the original sites, and that I would have had access to it if the request to exclude it had not been made." - can we live this this? >> Btw: I do have some of Rich's scans in my Altair section, and I *DID* >> contact him for permission, and he *IS* listed in my credits. I even >> gave him some scans of docs he was missing during our correspondance. > >And that took, what, a couple e-mails? No big deal. Since most of >Dynacomp's CD comes from, at most, 10 sources, it wouldn't take much >effort to at least let the people who created those sources know what he's >up to, or in the very least put a note of thanks on the disc. No, he >didn't do any of these, so shame on him. The difference being that I was using individual document scans which did not have Rich's information attached to them - presumably the material on the CD in the original question does have his complete package, including whatever promotional meterial he wishes to include. IMO (and it is just MO) this is enough of an acknowlegement, as anyone who actually looks at it will see this material. Once again, let me stress that this is MO. >> BUT - the choice as to what to do is ultimately Rich's .. He asked our >> opinion and I gave him mine. to quote Spock, he is free to "give it all >> the consideration it is due". > >Quoting fictional characters is...scary. Yeah, but it's such a GOOD quote (and very useful at times). Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

21 years, 4 months

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An Actual On-Topic DILOG question

by aek＠spies.com

>From memory, isn't a DEC TSV05 (M7196) actually a rebadged Dilog DQ142? The DQ132 was a slightly older design. I have the manual up for that and it was switchable between 18/22 bits. You're probably better off with the 142..

21 years, 4 months

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Approaches to projects

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Doc Shipley" <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > >Philip Pemberton wrote: >> >> I've had the same experience - >> Them> "Would you like this computer?" >> Me> "What is it?" >> Them> "Um.. 386-25 with 1MB of RAM" >> Me> "To tell the truth, I don't collect PCs, they're not that rare, or even >> particularly useful." >> Them> "Oh, OK. I've got a ZX81 you can have for fifty quid. Or a C64 for ?95" >> Them> "They're going in the bin tomorrow, so let me know before then, ok?" > ><snip> > >> Speaking of which, iirc someone offered me a SYM-1 a while back.. they >> wanted somewhere in the region of $900 for it. Last I heard, it hit the >> dumpster. Real shame - then again, their property, their choice :-/ > > This just twists my brain. > > "I think this computer is worth ONE MILLLLLION DOLLARS. What, you'll >give me 20 bucks? Instead of taking your twenty bucks or putting it up >for no-reserve auction, I'll just throw this million-dollar computer >away!!! MuaHaHaHaaaa!!!" > > Been there, did that, still bitter. > > > Doc > Hi Still can't imagine a SYM-1 being worth $900. From $75 to maybe $150 someplace is more like it. It has little to be note worthy of that I know of. The KIM is more recognized as a historic board. I doubt if that person though it was actually worth something that they'd have thrown it away, regardless of what they said. Still, for one rounding out their 6502 collection, the SYM-1 is a nice item to have. Dwight

21 years, 4 months

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Sale of "free" stuff on eBay

by news＠computercollector.com

Here's a theoretical question for the group. What if someone compiled copyrighted data (giving credit to the owners) onto a CD, and gave it away for FREE, but made their money by having advertising inside the contents -- would that be considered ethical? For the record, it's NOT anything that I plan to do with the newsletter. Evan ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 600 readers and counting!

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