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Cold Fusion, Infinite Capacitors, and other Suppressed Technologies...

by tomj＠wps.com

We're all wrong! Tantalums don't "fail" -- that's not zero-ohms you measure across the two mangled pins -- it's INFINITE CAPACITANCE! I estimate my little 47uF/35VDC tant must now be, oh, a TF or more (teraFarad). Of course it blows the 5amp fuse in the power supply! The TC is measured in YEARS... There's no other explanation possible. None. I am not listening to you.

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TV show on Antikythera device

by news＠computercollector.com

The "Modern Marvels" series (History Channel) is showing this special episode again. Here on the east coast, it's beginning... right now (7pm). ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit our web site for lots of extra content: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 620 readers and counting!

21 years, 4 months

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Interesting "Rare" APPLE PCI Board on Ebay

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

Don't know anything about this, but thought you guys might be interested. It has a Buy It Now of $15.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=80075&item=5734752777 &rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V#ebayphotohosting Cheers, Ram (c) 2004 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

21 years, 4 months

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missing pages from DF32 manual on bitsavers

by aek＠spies.com

I have another copy of the manual with the missing pages Will fix the one up there this afternoon

21 years, 4 months

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missing pages from DF32 manual on bitsavers

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Does anyone have the last few pages of the DF32 (not DF32D) manual? I was specifically interested in the board used to display track selection, etc, for the diskless tests. IIRC, it's on like page 6-41, and the copy of the DF32 maint manual on bitsavers only goes up to 6-37. Thanks, -ethan

21 years, 4 months

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mpf 1 manual please

by steve.peddle＠sympatico.ca

having a hard time finding this manual....I waz wondering if i can get a copy from you if still around...thanks steve peddle >From cctech(a)classiccmp.org Wed Dec 11 09:28:49 2002 From: cctech(a)classiccmp.org (Rich Beaudry) Date: Wed Dec 11 09:28:49 2002 Subject: MPF-1 Manuals Message-ID: <F97DF7WCI5TrcDd4ism0000783a(a)hotmail.com> Hello all, I just changed jobs, and the new place has a *TOTAL* lockdown on web browsing, even for the engineers, so I have not been keeping track of the list. I was catching up tonight from home, and saw Adrian's note about me and the MPF-1. I indeed have one, with manuals, and would be happy to make copies for whoever needs them. Please email me off-list, and we can set it up. One small caveat: I have a metric crapload of things going on, so it may be a few *weeks* before I can get to it. If you can wait, I can make copies... :-) Rich B.

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FFS: Syquest 44MB internal drive model SQ555

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

I have a Syquest 44MB internal drive, model SQ555, which came with an enclosure that I picked up. I don't know the status of the drive but it is free for the price of shipping to the first person to claim it... --tom

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wanted: Votrax PSS manual

by GFisher＠tristonecapital.com

For what it's worth there is a manual for the Votrax Type N Talk at the URL below, I believe they used the same speech chip (SC-01). Crap, I had a Votrax PSS about 4 years ago and sold it for pennies on the dollar! http://members.aol.com/itsancientpics3/votraxmanual.htm There is also a neat piece of DOS software to read the screen through a PSS at: http://park.org/Guests/Trace/pavilion/dosshar1.htm Sorry, that's all I can come up with. Gary Fisher This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and are not endorsed by the author's employer. Original Message Follows: Message: 35 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:53:07 -0500 From: "Jonathan Gevaryahu" <jgevaryahu(a)hotmail.com> Subject: wanted: Votrax PSS manual To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <BAY101-F30F5EDF67555D1019899D2C7A40(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I recently obtained a Votrax Personal Speech System which unfortunately for me, did not include the power supply or the manual. Thanks to Robert Stek's informative post (http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-February/010608.html) on this list in Feb '03, I am in the process of constructing a power supply for it. (i.e. I eBayed a 28VAC transformer and am using an 18.5VDC laptop power supply instead of 20VDC which HOPEFULLY won't hurt anything, until I find a satisfactory 20VDC power supply, and am cannibalizing a DIN-5 connector from a dead keyboard) However, I still lack a copy of the PSS's manual, so I can't figure out how to set the various device modes, to control the AY-3-8910 audio generator chip, etc. If anyone here has the manual for the Votrax Personal Speech System and has some means to scan or digitize it (a digital camera will work) can they post or send me a copy of the images? It would be very much appreciated. Jonathan Gevaryahu

21 years, 4 months

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tractor-feed paper sizes?

by eric＠brouhaha.com

Does anyone happen to know anything about obscure sizes of tractor-feed paper? We've now got the console typewriter of the PDP-1 at the Computer History Museum working correctly. It is an IBM Model B electric typewriter modified by Soroban Engineering for use as an I/O device. Soroban added an encoder and a decoder mechanism, using switches, solenoids, bails, etc. There was a bent leaf switch contact that resulted in incorrect character codes on input, and two stuck solenoids that resulted in incorrect characters typed. Anyhow, the typewriter will accept individual sheets, but it also has tractors for continuous forms. But the distance between the sprockets is approximately 13 1/8", which is narrower than the sprocket spacing of standard line-printer paper. A Google search reveals plenty of places that sell 9 1/2" wide or 14 7/8" wide continuous forms, but are other sizes readily available? Thanks! Eric Smith volunteer, Computer History Museum PDP-1 Restoration Project http://pdp-1.org/

21 years, 4 months

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HP 7908/7912 head locking

by aek＠spies.com

I've put a scan of the 791x installation manual up at www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/disc/07912-90902_791x_Inst_Jun86.pdf

21 years, 4 months

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HP 7908/7912 head locking

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hi everybody, the information technology "museum" at Erlangen University (for which I work part-time) will be aquiring two HP 1000 systems in the near future, an A600+ in a 16-slot cardcage with a "piano-seat" disk/tape unit (7912P) and an A700 in a big cabinet with rackmount storage (7908 and 7912). I'd really like to have them arrive undamaged. As noted in the archives, there should be a shipping lock on these drives (see http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-April/013531.html). We've already received the documentation for the system, but obviously the now important parts (Disc Drive Installation Manuals 07908-90902 and 07912-90902) are missing. Some Google activation brought up several sellers of used drives along with a few classiccmp threads, but no online copy of the manual. Can somebody please tell me how to properly prepare the drives for transport? From what I read here, they're not very reliable anyway, but one doesn't need to make matters worse. They're in a building just across the yard, but as I always need to coordinate three parties to do something there, it would be best to know what to do *before* actually poking around in the cabinets. Your instructions (or redirections to web resources) will be sincerely appreciated. -- Arno Kletzander Stud. Hilfskraft Informatik Sammlung Erlangen www.iser.uni-erlangen.de +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION für Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben

21 years, 4 months

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Abandonware site charges for downloads

by vcf＠siconic.com

What do you folks make of this site? http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/ That have a bunch of software for download. Some of it is Abandonware. Or at least it's claimed to be Abandonware. How do we know it's Abandonware? They have nothing on their site (that I could find) that confirms that these are abandonware, and there are thousands of titles there. They want money if you want to download anything. I can understand them wanting to cover their costs, but this seems pretty sleazy to me. Opinions? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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wanted: Votrax PSS manual

by jgevaryahu＠hotmail.com

I recently obtained a Votrax Personal Speech System which unfortunately for me, did not include the power supply or the manual. Thanks to Robert Stek's informative post (http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-February/010608.html) on this list in Feb '03, I am in the process of constructing a power supply for it. (i.e. I eBayed a 28VAC transformer and am using an 18.5VDC laptop power supply instead of 20VDC which HOPEFULLY won't hurt anything, until I find a satisfactory 20VDC power supply, and am cannibalizing a DIN-5 connector from a dead keyboard) However, I still lack a copy of the PSS's manual, so I can't figure out how to set the various device modes, to control the AY-3-8910 audio generator chip, etc. If anyone here has the manual for the Votrax Personal Speech System and has some means to scan or digitize it (a digital camera will work) can they post or send me a copy of the images? It would be very much appreciated. Jonathan Gevaryahu P.S. I'm sorry if this message gets onto the list multiple times, I initially sent it to cctech from my comcast account with a different return address, and I thought it had been 'moderated to death'. So I sent it to cctalk instead, with the same account... and my message still never showed up. (I guess classiccmp.org is rejecting all comcast mail as spam or something nasty like that) So now, I'm sending it through hotmail, and I HOPE it gets through...

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id this HP-IB cable?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 21 2004, 16:38, Joe R. wrote: > Can anyone id this cable? > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/cable/Mvc-002f.jpg> It looks DEC-ish but it > has fewer pins (24) than the DEC HP-IB cables. 24 pins makes sense for HP-IB/GP-IB, and the "piggy-back" connector looks right, but the other end doesn't look like the DEC GP-IB cable for my IBV-11, either. Is there a part number on either of those white labels that are visible near the ends? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Musings on 2003

by kcfoxie＠mac.com

Hello, I was looking for MaxxBoxxes when I came across your Musings. I was curious if you had ever found one? And if I may ask, where have you been looking? Thanks, Chris Browder (-AIM-) Vdubbed83 ) (-Homepage-) http://homepage.mac.com/kcfoxie/ ) -- "Total everything up and you may be surprised (but probably not) to find that Apple spent at least three-quarters of 2004 being officially late with one or more products... And since everything Apple does is, by definition, the height of fashion and the epitome of cool, obviously "late" is the new black." -J. Miller, www.appleturns.com

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TI Silent 700 power supplies

by CPUMECH＠aol.com

Call Dataterm they still have original working TI 703/707 power supplies or AC adapters p/n2310442-0001. Probably get 0ne for $10 plus shipping.

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Philips/Magnavox VideoWriter Hacking???

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Hi all! I was just wondering if anyone on here knows what (if any) hacks have ever been done to a Philips/Magnavox VideoWriter? I was mainly wondering if anyone has ever been able to get any other operating system (namely CP/M) working on these boxes. David M. Vohs Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64, 1802, 1541, Indus GT, FDD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Original Apple Macintosh, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer III. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. "Butterfly": Tandy 200, PDD-2. "Shapeshifter": Epson QX-10, Comrex HDD, Titan graphics/MS-DOS board. "Scout": Otrona Attache. (prospective) "Pioneer": Apple LISA II (prospective) "Mercury": HP-85. (prospective) "Evolver": Commodore Amiga 2000 "TMA-1": Atari Portfolio, Memory Expander +

21 years, 4 months

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Liberator 220.

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

I now have 7 of these liberator 220's. I don't have the cables yet to test them, or even know if the cables I have coming will work. Looking inside the cases they have 2 full height drives in there. They are standard 50 pin scsi drives. The two drives connect to what has to be a scsi-->dssi board. This is making me think that could change these drives for something bigger. But if anyone knows more about these I would love to know. I was wondering if the two drives inside are mirrored or in an array. The arey in a rack all daisy-chained together, unless someone has messed about with it, I thought dssi was max 7 devices. They also have a programmable front panel, with no instructions and just three buttons. Does anyone know how this works. Also does anyone know how the speed of these compare to standad dssi drives. This is going to go great on the 4000/705a. It would be nice if I could swap a couple of the drives for 18gb. Apologies if you read them, I have asked the same questions on both vms and dec newsgroups. Thanks Dan

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Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 21 2004, 22:39, Gooijen H wrote: > > Pete wrote: > > ... when my department gets its big scanner, probably in January > > (Sorry, Henk, it's not an Oce). > > I hate to go off-topic for a moment, but I can't resist here, > I am very loyal / pro-minded to my employer :~) <shameless plug> > Does your scanner do 55 pages Letter or A4 size (1-sided per minute, > or 27 ditto (2-sided) automatically at 600 DPI ? No, I don't know the actual figures, but the one we had on eval seemed, subjectively, about 2/3 or maybe 3/4 of that speed. It's an HP, but I can't remember the model number either. You have to understand that it was a huge battle getting any scanner at all in our department! > And besides, the software that moves the scanner carriage was entirely > written by me! For the mechanics under us: the carriage accelerates > to approx 1 m/s in 33 msec! > Don't ask what happened after I made a mistake in the path calculation > software and tried to run that code on the engineering prototype (way > back in 1994) ...! I was not the only one unhappy with the results!! When I worked in CompSci, we got a big fast Oce scanner/copier, about 1997, I think. One of those that collects the output internally, safely away from fingers, because the paper goes fast enough to cut fingers off if they're not out of the way. I remember the first print job I sent it, a large A4 manual printed from a PDF file. I walked the length of the corridor to the print room, saw no output, and was slightly surprised -- for about 3 seconds, when a *large* block of paper was neatly deposited on the output tray. > LOL, this (..) is typical "Pete humor". (Yeah, I must do something about those () keys as well). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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clueless eBay seller for today is:

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi From the looks of the back, it is one of the battery backed units as well. I suspect that the front panel lights come on but nothing works, like my unit did until I learned the resistor in the connector trick. Dwight >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > > He certainly hasn't found your website, has he Al? At least he's not >claiming that it's "complete and fully functional" like the seller of that >recent F-series 1000 did. > > Joe > > > >At 08:59 AM 12/21/04 -0800, Al wrote: >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5150357271 >> >>"A shroud of mystery hangs over the history and specification of this >classic computer system." >> >>-- >> >>Good thing he wasn't trying to sell something was really WAS obscure. >> >> > >

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Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics

by GOOI＠oce.nl

> Pete wrote: > ... when my department gets its big scanner, probably in January > (Sorry, Henk, it's not an Oce). I hate to go off-topic for a moment, but I can't resist here, I am very loyal / pro-minded to my employer :~) <shameless plug> Does your scanner do 55 pages Letter or A4 size (1-sided per minute, or 27 ditto (2-sided) automatically at 600 DPI ? And besides, the software that moves the scanner carriage was entirely written by me! For the mechanics under us: the carriage accelerates to approx 1 m/s in 33 msec! Don't ask what happened after I made a mistake in the path calculation software and tried to run that code on the engineering prototype (way back in 1994) ...! I was not the only one unhappy with the results!! > Sorry about the spelling and dropped characters in my last post, BTW. > Must fix this keyboard (right after I fix these fingers). LOL, this (..) is typical "Pete humor". - Henk.

21 years, 4 months

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id this HP-IB cable?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi All, Can anyone id this cable? <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/cable/Mvc-002f.jpg> It looks DEC-ish but it has fewer pins (24) than the DEC HP-IB cables. I keep finding these but I've never found them on the equipment that they're made for. Right now I have four of them, 2 are made from Belden cables, one for a HP cable and the other doesn't have a manufactures name. Thanks and Happy Holidays, Joe

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Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Ok, I checked. I am that fast back because I remembered exactly where to look :~) I have one before me on the desk. It has the following description: PRODUCT CODE: AC-8528C-MC PRODUCT NAME: CZDLDC0 DL11-W DIAG DATE CREATED: MARCH 1978 MAINTAINER : DIAGNOSTIC ENGINEERING AUTHOR : DAN CASALETTO Don't be fooled, it is printed on Letter format, 2-sided! Only the first 6 pages are one page per side, all the following pages are scaled: 2 pages per side, thus 4 pages (or images) per sheet. The first 6 pages describe the load and start procedure, the switch bits to get special functions, etc. just as described on my site. The scaled pages contain the assembly source (output) listing ... they are numbered from "seq 0012"up to "seq 0103", and I checked, the numbering is not octal but decimal! If there is interest I could start to scan these to 600 dpi PDF files, but I have a stack of approx 20-30 cm high, so that will be a lot MB's! I could start making a list of what's in the box. Xmas is coming :~) - Henk. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org To: info-pdp11(a)village.org; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Sent: 21-12-2004 17:27 Subject: Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics Does anyone have any info/documentation on the XXDP diagnostics for older PDP-11 systems and peripherals? I'm looking in particular for the 11/40 (11/35), RK05, DZ11, RL02, MM11 core memory, RX01, RL01 diagnostics. I have found some info on Henk's site, but would like to know if anyone has a comprehensive list and hints on how to run these, what the output means, how to answer the prompts, etc. I have created RL02 packs with XXDP 2.5 and XXDP 2.2 and I can boot and run stuff from these packs. It appears that the 11/40 diagnostics are on XXDP 2.2, but not on XXDP 2.5. I have an old 1976 DEC field rep troubleshooting guide that refers to various MAINDECs, which seem to have been the diagnostics prior to XXDP. Is there a list somewhere showing what the XXDP equivalents of the old MAINDECs are? Any help would be appreciated. I want to exercise my 11/40 and attached peripherals and see if any subtle gremlins are lurking anywhere within. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of one of my three RK05 drives that I knew was problematic. Ashley

21 years, 4 months

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Mail Authentication

by marvin＠rain.org

Encrypted message is available.

21 years, 4 months

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OT: Html clue?

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Ok, I have looked around in the documents for Angelfire, at other sites and I am still having problems getting this.. <a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a> trys to download RockScissorsPaper.HTML when I click it (the html I actually get is angelfire's 404 page) phhht. What is the "right" way to make a file available on my web page?

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Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I could go and check ... AFAICR I also have a stack of listings that belong to XXDP programs. When a stop/halt occurs at an address, you read the listing of the XXDP diagnostic program to learn near the address where the stop occurred for what reason that stop occurred. I'll report back later! - Henk. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org To: info-pdp11(a)village.org; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Sent: 21-12-2004 17:27 Subject: Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics Does anyone have any info/documentation on the XXDP diagnostics for older PDP-11 systems and peripherals? I'm looking in particular for the 11/40 (11/35), RK05, DZ11, RL02, MM11 core memory, RX01, RL01 diagnostics. I have found some info on Henk's site, but would like to know if anyone has a comprehensive list and hints on how to run these, what the output means, how to answer the prompts, etc. I have created RL02 packs with XXDP 2.5 and XXDP 2.2 and I can boot and run stuff from these packs. It appears that the 11/40 diagnostics are on XXDP 2.2, but not on XXDP 2.5. I have an old 1976 DEC field rep troubleshooting guide that refers to various MAINDECs, which seem to have been the diagnostics prior to XXDP. Is there a list somewhere showing what the XXDP equivalents of the old MAINDECs are? Any help would be appreciated. I want to exercise my 11/40 and attached peripherals and see if any subtle gremlins are lurking anywhere within. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of one of my three RK05 drives that I knew was problematic. Ashley

21 years, 4 months

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Don Lancaster's postings on alt.marketing.online.ebay

by aek＠spies.com

quite an interesting newsgroup, actually. stumbled onto it yesterday. http://www.tinaja.com/aucres01.asp may be of interest.

21 years, 4 months

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Old Unibus PDP-11 XXDP diagnostics

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 21 2004, 9:14, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 08:27, Ashley Carder wrote: > > Does anyone have any info/documentation on the XXDP diagnostics for > > older PDP-11 systems and peripherals? I'm looking in particular for > > the 11/40 (11/35), RK05, DZ11, RL02, MM11 core memory, RX01, RL01 > > diagnostics. I have found some info on Henk's site, but would like to > > know if anyone has a comprehensive list and hints on how to run these, > > what the output means, how to answer the prompts, etc. It would be a big list :-) I had a whole box of microfiche of them, once. Later diagnostics use a common set of "switches" to tell them whether to halt on error, loop on erro, produce lots of reports, etc; alsmost all diagnostics have specific settings to determine what they do in detail. If they halt on error, you need the isting to determine exactly what caused the halt -- they don't, in general, print much informative info. > OK, the "magic decoder ring" for converting the MAINDECs to XXDP names > is quite simple. The MAINDEC # is of the form: > MAINDEC-11-Dxxxx-* > > To convert this to the XXDP diagnostic name keep only the xxxx part of > the MAINDEC #. To run it, do: > R xxxx?? > > The first letter in the diagnostic name tells you what processor it's > for. If I remember correctly C=11/40, Z=any B is 11/40; C is 11/45 > There's a document that tells all about it (but I can't remember where I > found it at the moment). That would probably be mine, at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/PDP-11/XXDP.pdf XXDP.ps is the same content, just a different format. The bits from page 6 to 12 are from V2.4, but the rest is mostly version-independant. > The pack images that you're talking about don't have the correct memory > diagnostic, but I've found that ZMSDD0 (wow! from memory...can you tell > I've used it a bunch?) works OK enough to be able to find bad memory and > you'll know when you hit bad memory. I've also found that having a > hardcopy terminal is preferable to a CRT when you're getting failures. > > If a diagnostic loads and then gives you a prompt like "DB>", START is a > good choice as a response. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 4 months

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Apollo Guidance Computer prototype replica

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Has anyone cached this yet? The bit rates are so low that it must be hosted on his machine at home. Heaven help him if this story gets posted to Slashdot :-) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer Festival Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 1:41 PM To: Classic Computers Mailing List Subject: Apollo Guidance Computer prototype replica This is going to blow your mind. This guy built a replica of the Apollo Guidance Computer prototype circa 1964 using 1960s era components. http://starfish.osfn.org/AGCreplica/ Do I sense here a Best of Show award at the next VCF? :) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 4 months

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Who Made/Makes the World Smallest Harddrive

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Not trying to start any flames but I didn't think they had any 30/30 rifles in UK. I thought that's why the Bobbies carried batons and a whistle. Sellam says > >Maybe it was both: the 30/30 evoked the name of the rifle, which also >happened to be the name of a nearby locale, and the naming was obvious >thenceforth. Mike

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Problems reading older disk on newer drive

by vcf＠siconic.com

I think we've discussed this before. Sorry if we're re-treading old ground. I'm trying to read a disk an old double-density PC formatted disk on a high-density drive. I can read the directory and certain small files just fine, but any files that are larger than a few sectors (or perhaps that span a track) return "Sector Not Found" errors. What is the deal with that? This is under DOS 6.22. Is there a way to get DOS to recognize that this is a double-density disk and to perform whatever internal magic is necessary to read the disk properly? Or is this an issue of hardware? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Our hobby in The New York Times -- sort of

by news＠computercollector.com

Hi everyone, This is VERY cool: Jeri Ellsworth and her C64 30-in-1 joystick are featured in The New York Times. As I write this email (2:54AM, Monday), it's on the actual nytimes.com homepage, with a color photo of her. The article itself is at (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/20/technology/20joystick.html?8dpc). There is a product review of the 30-in-1, head-to-head against the new Atari Flashback, at my own site (http://news.computercollector.com) -- click the 'reviews' link. Happy vintage gaming! - Evan K. ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit our web site for lots of extra content: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 600 readers and counting!

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Our hobby in The New York Times -- sort of

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

The intellectual property issues would be key for me, too and could have been dealt with in a few sentences. As far as the crappy-versus-good title licenses, I would offer up that the final choice of games comes down to (1) which IP owner you could locate and (2) successfully negotiate with. There's the firm...Tulip I think...that from what I've read seems to be ready to come down hard on anyone using abandoned Commodore properties for commercial gain. It's been a long road of failed owners, but I believe Tulip owns the Commodore trademarks and IP. I can't say for sure if they own the designs for the 6510 but I would assume that they bought a "package" of IP from Gateway, who bought it from Ascom AG, who bought it from the Commodore bankruptcy estate for $5mm (IIRC). There might be another name in there after Ascom, but I can't be sure. I think that Tulip uses the Commodore name for things other than computers but owns all of the goodies that's of particular interest to this group. Rich -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Foust Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:46 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Our hobby in The New York Times -- sort of At 02:41 PM 12/20/2004, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: >I can think of at least one more important issue to be concerned with :) Judging by Slashdot's coverage of Ellsworth and the geek response, at least 90% of this mailing list's bandwidth needs to be consumed debating her "hotness." Sated geek that I am, I'd love to read an in-depth article on the intellection property issues: Did they get permission from the CBM's heirs? Who got the 6510's IP rights? What about the software, was that easy to license? Why do so many of these cheap emulators license lousy titles, as opposed to the extinct top-sellers? - John

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Oldest computer on the internet?

by wacarder＠usit.net

Does anyone know what the oldest documented functional computer is that is connected to the internet? Ashley

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Differential Analysers and Scientific American

by allain＠panix.com

> I was wondering whether anyone here with '70s > issues of SciAm might be able to make a copy, Likely I have the issue stored. I'd have to leave it to you right now to find out which issue it would be. With that info I could make you a copy. John A. hope this can help you Bill the cat: "ACK TBFfffttt!"

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my old FIDO CP/M-80 machine running

by tomj＠wps.com

Deciphered the missing keyboard cable and the far, far too complicated keyboard interface (I practically rewired a Cromemco PRI board to be an interface for this lovely Microswitch parallel keyboard -- very hardware-head), soaked & washed the mouse poop off the floppy cable, repaired the section of conductor #50 nibbled by said rodentia, picked a system floppy at random (DSSD), typed "b" at the prompt... READ ERROR. Pulled a SSSD system disk, booted fine! Some fiddling, I can't read any sectors of side 2. That I will figure out. It does figure out sidedness. Found I have bunches of blank NOS DSDD floppies, not one SSSD blank! So no formatting etc. So I ran all the progs on the system disk (wordstar, sid, pmate, stat, etc) OK. Since I've got a bunch of SSSD system disks, I stuck another in the B drive (a sssd drive, since mice ruined the orig. drive), and ran MBASIC 5.03 off it. Man, the B drive spindle bearing is trashed; it's conversation-level loud. The G and right-shift keys on the keyboard don't work, and the RETURN key sends a garbage character then CR (but Control-M works so I can do stuff). I need to fix the "G" key, figure out the serial port stuff, then I can export the SSSD diskette contents. Once I fix the DS thing I'll do the other non 3740 format diskettes. I don't know yet what order I'll do things in though I will probably get one of the serial ports working to make sure. Luckily I have ZAPLOAD (bin to hex) and telink (telecomm) progs on the system disk.

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Apollo Guidance Computer prototype replica

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 12:50 PM 12/20/2004, you wrote: >Has anyone cached this yet? The bit rates are so low that it must be hosted >on his machine at home. >Heaven help him if this story gets posted to Slashdot :-) Either there's a CCC Effect, or maybe whereever Sellam learned about it, others learned too. I'm getting about 1-4K/sec, but the first PDF is 8 meg. I can mirror when it's done. If you look up one directory, you'll see he's mirroring Carl Friend's site. - John

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Our hobby in The New York Times -- sort of

by eric＠brouhaha.com

> Tulip owns the Commodore trademarks and IP. I can't say for sure if they > own the designs for the 6510 It doesn't really matter, as no one building a product today would use any portion of the original 6510 design that is subject to intellectual property protection. The DTV 64-in-a-joystick, for instance, uses a new 6510-compatible HDL implementation. AFAIK, the only part of the original 6510 design that would be subject to intellectual property protection now would be the actual mask designs, which might (or might not) be copyrighted. No one in their right mind would try to make new 3 micron NMOS processors today, and the mask designs are not relevant to new redesigns.

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Who Made/Makes the World Smallest Harddrive( Winchester)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Actually in 1975 or 1976 one of my fellow graduate students, moving to Beaverton Oregon to work for Tektronix, was trying to move some early disk drives and was asked by the movers what they were. Home furnishings were readily moveable but not office stuff. So he put them in washer and dryer boxes and the movers were happy to move them. They had been used as end tables in his living room up until them. He also built the first Altair I ever saw. Andy said > >My experience of early hard disks was with the ICT EDS-4 which stored 4M 6-bit characters (ie about 3 MB) - the >(exchangeable) disk pack was close to the size of a complete PC ... the drives were referred to as "washing machines" >because of their size and appearance. (and the controller was about the same size also). The IBM equivalent was, I >think, the 1311 ... the 2311 being equivalent to the ICT EDS-8 (which had twice as many tracks as the eds4 but was >otherwise identical) Mike

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Resurgence of the C64/Tulip/Jeri

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Here are a few Web links that talks about Tulip and the C64. Some are bit old, but worth a read: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111556,00.asp Article from 2003 that gives an overall look at the relationship. http://www.tulip.com/news/article.asp?nid=109 This one raises as many questions as it answers. It only speaks to enforcement for the unauthorized use of the Commodore name. http://www.tulip.com/aboutus/corp_article.asp?nid=145 This is an interesting link, too. Although it's in Dutch, the product looks remarkably similar to the one Jeri is holding in her hand. Interestingly, in a note on Ruud Baltassen's site indicates that Tulip doesn't mind people using the Commodore name in a non-commercial setting, I guess acknowledging that in the time between when it purchased "the name and other assets in 1997" and 2003 when they talk about developing game products for the PC (like the Atari Anthology program, I'm guessing -- old games running on a new machine using an emulator), a lot has happened. The problem is that no one ever says what "other assets" is. Rich

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olivetti underwood programmer 101 Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I just found and captured this programmable calculator. It still has a roll of paper in the feed. I would like it to go to a good home. It is heavy and big. I have not tried to power it up. Google search turned up the following information. Looks just like http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/c-programma101.html Any offers? Mike McFadden

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Apollo Guidance Computer prototype replica

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Ahhh...I thought I recognized the domain name from somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Foust Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:22 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Apollo Guidance Computer prototype replica At 12:50 PM 12/20/2004, you wrote: >Has anyone cached this yet? The bit rates are so low that it must be hosted >on his machine at home. >Heaven help him if this story gets posted to Slashdot :-) Either there's a CCC Effect, or maybe whereever Sellam learned about it, others learned too. I'm getting about 1-4K/sec, but the first PDF is 8 meg. I can mirror when it's done. If you look up one directory, you'll see he's mirroring Carl Friend's site. - John

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Domain Name Registration

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Who do people like to use for registering domain names? DNS hosting would be a plus. Zane

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Interesting stuff on E-bay

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

HP 9915 computer <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3860828545&ssPageNa me=STRK:MEWA:IT> HP HEWLETT PACKARD 200 SERIES 9920A SERVICE MANUAL <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5149350604&ssPageNa me=STRK:MEWA:IT> 3 Hewlett Packard HP Computer Sales Brochures 1975 <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5147531234&ssPageNa me=STRK:MEWA:IT>

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question re HP 264x terminals

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

Which HP 264x terminals used 8008 cpus? I know that the 2640 and 2644 did - but did the 2648 or any others in the series also use it? What is the HP p/n for the 8008 in this application? Jack

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FET Cross-reference - a bit off-topic

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

I'm in the middle of some repair work on an older Heathkit O-Scope model IO-102, the vertical board uses an N-Channel FET (Q1 - EL131 - Heathkit part number 417-241) which has become very thermal. I picked up a replacement >from a local electronics distributor however the crossed NTE part simply doesn't work in the circuit. (NTE cross shows an NTE133 as the cross for the EL131). I've tried a couple NTE133s and an MPF105 as well, all work the same in the circuit but don't work correctly. Does anyone know of an exact EL131 replacement, know if the ECG312 really is a good replacement or even better know where I can get a Heathkit replacement part. Digikey, Mouser etc. all don't recognize the EL131 part number. Thanks -Neil

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Macintosh collector groups?

by sml49＠comcast.net

Michael.. You might try posting them in the both the "free" area and "computer" area on Craigslist (www.craigslist.org); that might work. The IIsi has pretty much no value - ie: I doubt anyone would pay anything for one beyond the cost of shipping unless it has one or another of the more interesting PDS cards or adapters (does it?). I have quite a few si's that I've picked up at the local recycling depot. The 7200 is a more useful machine which is still upgradable. What comes with them by way of peripherals/ keyboards/ old sofware/ whatnot? I've been keeping a double handful of older Macs around here and the software to run 'em just in case some day down the line when I'm old and gray I suddenly have the urge to run PageMaker v. 2, or even Excel 1.04 (all 170K of it)...or the original MacPaint. Seth Lewin > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:18:55 -0500 > From: Michael <vaxlion(a)postal.lionsden.com> > Subject: Macintosh collector groups? > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <41C4748F.6050100(a)postal.lionsden.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Howdy all, > > I have two Macs, a Mac IIsi and 7200, I would like to get rid of. Does > anyone have any recommendation for a Mac collectors group that might > have some individuals interested in these machines? Listings for these > machines on both Ebay and Vintage Marketplace have yeilded no takers. > > Thanks, > > -- Michael

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cool HP-IB find

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I went to one of my favorite scrounging spots today and found an interesting disk drive with a HP-IB inteface. The drive was made by IEM and it has two 105Mb removable cartridge drives in it. It looks like it takes Syquest disk cartridges. Does anyone have a couple of spare Syquest 105 mb cartridges to spare so I can try it out? Joe

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Stupid TI power supply

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Sure sounds like a thermal limit switch. It could also be a Poly-Fuse. As for voltage of the transformer, if it is bad, one can still determine the ratio by cutting the wires off with a single cut per turn and then count the wires for the primary and secondary. One does have to watch out if there are taps, other than center tap. Dwight >From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > > >So after beating the shit out of this stupid TI power supply (none of your >suggestions worked, thanks) I come to find that it does have an internal >fuse and that it is complete intact. Wonderful. This thing is shot >beyond repair at this point. It wasn't intended to ever be opened >apparently. > >Anyway, hopefully I can figure out what this pile of garbage was supposed >to be putting out. Of course, there are no markings on the housing of the >transformer. > >There is an IC in here. It's inline with the hot side of the input >voltage. The markings are thusly: > >UMI EI >X25 150(degree symbol)C >2.5A 250V~ > >A varistor? > >Anyway, this is a heap of junk now. > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > >

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OT: Re: Domain Name Registration

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 19 2004, 15:07, Glen Goodwin wrote: > Okay, so can someone tell me why -- suddenly -- a whois on my > domain name -- acme-sales.net -- does not show any of my contact > information? It did before, but something has changed. Er, it does for me: $ whois -h whois.opensrs.net acme-sales.net Registrant: ACME Enterprises of Orlando 6192 Edgewater Drive Orlando, FL 32810 US Domain name: ACME-SALES.NET Administrative Contact: Goodwin, Glen (email addr here) (4 lines postal address here) (phone number here) Technical Contact: (same 6 lines here) Registration Service Provider: Infinitum Technologies, domains(a)servercove.com 407-481-2434 407-481-2379 (fax) http://www.servercove.com This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords, DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions. Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 26-Aug-2004. Record expires on 22-Sep-2005. Record created on 22-Sep-2003. Domain servers in listed order: NS2.ZIGIO.COM 66.193.174.19 NS1.ZIGIO.COM 66.193.174.18 Domain status: ACTIVE $ -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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