- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Saquinn624＠aol.com

If your apple monitor is the same as used on the B&W G3 series (CRT monitor), there are several at my school and they are plugged into the Macs using what looks like a VGA-Mac (DB15 multisync) adaptor, but the graphics output is definitely standard Mac DB-15 Fishing through the mental archives I think I recall hearing the "dark clicks" from a monitor before and it had to do with the resolution/sync being something the monitor couldn't lock into. Try standard VGA 640x480, as Mac resolutions classically were slightly different at higher levels (832x634 instead of 800x600 etc.) -Scott Quinn

21 years, 3 months

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My NOVA4 shrunk!

by tomj＠wps.com

I cut it down to one rack. Only one tape drive, but I don't think this thing will be doing any large sorts in it's future. The Dasher LP2 powers up, but gets angry when it fails to detect the carriage has in fact reached the left-most position; FAULT. Probably the optical sensor isn't, anymore. Pressing TEST makes BEEP and carriage motion right, same angry beeping and FAULT. Got all the manuals inventoried, they're listed on the website. http://wps.com/NOVA4/ I'm going to power it up relatively soon. Piecemeal and carefully of course, but without a lot of fanfare. Bruce Ray will have right-of-first-refusal on anything, but I will shortly have a bunch of things available for free or trade: * two racks, one with sides * big analog I/O system with docs and software * DG expansion chassis * 6023 tape drive with complete docs

21 years, 3 months

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VAXStation 3100/76 SCSI

by Saquinn624＠aol.com

I'm just trying to get the internal bus working at this point, using the (DEC supplied?) cable that came with the machine (I don't have another cable with the Honda connector to fit the KA43. I figure I'll try to install (NetBSD) with the cover off & drives hanging all over the place, and then stub on a standard connector to the outside if I need it. Unfortunately, VAXen don't seem to have been very popular in Washington State, and my work (school library) doesn't plug me in to classic/alternative computing people, so I'm not sure where to go from here (toss it or try -?- ) -Scott Quinn

21 years, 3 months

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HP battery eliminator plugs

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >I need some, time to make them. > >Want to be historically accurate, so... would anyone know exactly what AMP >connector was used, or where there are pictures of lots of AMP connectors so >I can identify the right one and order it? > >I'm hoping the connector is still made...no part number on it other than AMP > >Jay West > Hi Jay I found a connector with the correct sex and pin spacing at HSC ( in Sunnyvale ). It doesn't have the correct external latching so it needs slight modification with an exacto. It seems to be staying on with just the friction of the pin connections but one could always add some tape or something to make sure it stayed on. Dwight

21 years, 3 months

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VAX questions (3100/76)

by atrivo＠nm.ru

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 Saquinn624(a)aol.com wrote: > Does anybody know how Digital marketing explained the 68-pin SCSI and MMJ as > improvements, or did they even try? > Some proprietary changes seemed to have a purpose: early SCSI vs DSSI, others just seem in hindsight arbitrary and annoying: MMJ and goofy SCSI connectors. As others have mentioned, the 68 pin connector was pinned out funny. However, the machine has two scsi busses, how about a 50 pin internal cable attached to SCSI A and to your drive...does this cause errors, too? Paul

21 years, 3 months

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DEC collection becoming available

by aek＠spies.com

I saw the collection a few months ago. It is mainly VAXen. At the time, there were a few pdp11's and an 8/e but most of that corner was too tightly packed to look at easlily. I don't know how much he was able to sell since then. One thing he didn't mention was he had a pretty serious water break which left several inches of water on the side of the building with the shelving. All of the boxes with paper on that side of the building are water damaged.

21 years, 3 months

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DEC collection becoming available

by jgessling＠etrade.com

As a longtime lurker and past member, I just couldn't not get this info out. The Dallas - Fort Worth (mostly DEC) Historical preservation society is offering up it's collection. Not sure of the terms, but they have a lot of good stuff. See: http://www.montagar.com/~patj/hcsale/index.html Regards, Jim

21 years, 3 months

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Programming 1702 EPROMs, ProLog Programmer question

by pthfndr＠wanadoo.fr

Hello, I see an e-mail where you said you have a manual for the 980. Did you have a scanned manual ? Can you, if not, send me the sp?cifications of this device (first page probably of the manual) ? Cordialy.

21 years, 3 months

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HP97 +HP48GX

by jasper235＠ntlworld.com

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Perry [mailto:jasper235@ntlworld.com] Sent: 23 January 2005 10:36 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: HP97 Hi Tony, I got your name from my son Julian Perry who (like me)is a bit of an HP freak. I looked on the web to try and find an email address for you. This message is a try out to see if the partial address I got will reach you. If it does would you please confirm. I would like to talk to you about my beloved HP97. Jim Perry

21 years, 3 months

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HP 21MX toggle-in programs?

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

So, now that I've got a pair of HP 21MX machines sitting here (thanks Jay!), I could use something to toggle into them to test out the memory, or do "nifty things" with the frontpanel lights. I guess I could try spend some time learning HP assembly and coming up with things myself, but it'd be nice to have some examples to look at first. :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS --- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

21 years, 3 months

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Looking for KA825 (VAX-8250/8350) CPU Card T1001-YA

by bob＠jfcl.com

The good news is that I recently acquired a VAX 8350 in good condition along with a back plane full of cards. The bad news is that, despite all the cards in there, the previous owner had removed the CPU cards (both of 'em, this being a dual processor machine!). Does anybody have a KA825, T1001-YA cpu card that they'd be willing to give away, sell, or trade for other VAXBI cards? One CPU's enough (I'll settle for an 8250!). And does anybody have a boot diskette (BOOT58) for an 8250/8350 that I could copy? Thanks much Bob Armstrong

21 years, 3 months

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Outbid by bknittel

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Is bknittel on this list?

21 years, 3 months

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manuals?

by Saquinn624＠aol.com

Doing some clean-up, I have SCO XENIX System V and Netware v2.2 (286) manual sets & S/W I am probably going to put them up for trade (or free) but before I do that does anyone want some of them scanned? I also have an ALTOS III terminal user's guide -Scott Quinn

21 years, 3 months

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RE VAXstation 3100/76 SCSI

by Saquinn624＠aol.com

It looks like the KA43 is bad-the internal SCSI cable worked when I connected it to another SCSI card (via one of the drive connectors), it recognized and mounted a disk under Linux. If anyone has another KA-43 or similar, I might be in the market. -Scott Quinn

21 years, 3 months

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Old Pertec drive on eBay

by jpl15＠panix.com

Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5158846219… I've purchased several items from Skeeter - a very nice and very conciencious dealer. Located in New Mexico.... Cheers John

21 years, 3 months

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Data recovery on Toshiba T3100 laptop

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Hello, cctech! I recently recieved a call from a friend of a friend regarding a laptop that has come into her posession after a coworker of her died. She was doing some sort of environmental research, and all her work is stored on this computer. I tried taking the path of turning it on and just doing a copy that way. No such luck - the plasma display has a garbled and not stable display - text is garbled to the point that I can't read it, and it basically looks like it's about to go straight to hell. It does boot from harddisk - I feared that the plasma might be sensitive to power variations or something like that, and thus tried getting the machine apart. After struggling to get the harddrive in sight (the braindead (%(/% &(/?/&%# engineers at Toshiba made the screen cable plug non-detatchable!!) it has a strange plug and from what I can tell has about 26 pins (I was counting on the ribbon, and I'm quite tired, so that may be wrong) and the disk seems to be of JVC manufacture. What does the plasma shakiness/garbledness mean? What type is the disk? Can I get it out and use it on another machine, or do i have to put the POS back together? Is the floppy drive 1.44M? Has anyone heard of an Ashton-Tate program called FrameWorks? If and when I get the data off, I will need to convert this to a newer format - what is it? Text processing? Database? If I get the data off this machine, very cool things will come my way - at least an LSI-11, and maybe a lot more!! *giggle like schoolgirl* So any help is greatly appreciated! MTIA, -- Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe(a)ifi.uio.no>

21 years, 3 months

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X11R3 and XListPixmapFormats equivalent?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Any X11 R3 fanatics on the list? :-) I'm trying to get xearth to compile on this 'ere Tek XD88, which only has X11 release 3 - xearth uses a few odds and ends which only showed up in R4. Question - is there an equivalent of XListPixmapFormats in release 3 or is it something I'm going to have to bodge myself? The other two functions for which I haven't found an R3 equivalent are XSetWMNormalHints and XAllocSizeHints - either there isn't one or they're lurking under different names... I *think* there might be a R4 upgrade for the XD88 floating around on the 'net, at least I've seen reference to one. How involved (or complete) it is I don't know though. cheers Jules

21 years, 3 months

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Troubleshooting an IBM 5155 - (portable personal computer)

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

More on the saga of getting the DS/DD drive working in this machine... I borrowed a tape demagnetizer (Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore) and picked up some anhydrous isopropyl alcohol ($3.55 US for a pint). Demagnetizing and cleaning the heads has done the trick. I now have two genuine IBM (Qumetrak 142) disk drives running nicely. On the plus side, I now also have a 30MHz scope. A fellow ham has given me one that he was not using, with the understanding that if he needs it back he can have it. The big question is what am I going to do with a full pint of alcohol? I have some 8" drives to finish refurbing, but then I'll still have 99.5% of a pint left. Thanks for all the help. Kelly

21 years, 3 months

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VAX questions (3100/76)

by Saquinn624＠aol.com

Thanks for everyone's help in the past- adamg helped me get my Apollo running and Dwight Elvey gave me more info on the Polymorphic Card (don't have a kbd yet- nor any firmware so that project is on hold for a while). The S-100 manpage is great-the only manuals I couldn't find were the IDS modem and the Digital Systems 8" floppy. Now I'm trying to get my first VAX up, and it's having SCSI issues. (VS3100/76, 32MB, no GFX option, no kbd/mouse, no drives,10bT tranceiver With the cable plugged in (no devices), bus A fails with FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFF03 FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF. If you take off the cable from the KA43, it passes the test. Presence or absence of the terminator on the bus makes no difference. If it were not for the fact that it works without the cable, I would assume that the system board was dead, and probably toss it (it doesn't look easy to replace the 5380s) but I don't want a VAX to die unnecessarily, and I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. When I got it, the SCSI cable was unplugged so it might have been yanked on before someone realized there were clips, but it doesn't appear obviously damaged. Does anybody know how Digital marketing explained the 68-pin SCSI and MMJ as improvements, or did they even try? -Scott Quinn

21 years, 3 months

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Bill Gates: Teen Heart-throb!

by vcf＠siconic.com

http://blog.monkeymethods.org/2005/01/bill-gates-strikes-pose-for-teen-beat… HAHAHAHA! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 3 months

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IBM 5140 convertible "startup disk"

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can anyone help Luciano? See below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:25:29 -0200 From: Luciano Camara <lcamara(a)gmail.com> To: info(a)vintagetech.com Subject: ibm 5140 convertible Hello. I have an ibm 5140 convertible, but i coudn?t find the starter disk... the ibm link is not working. Could you help me to find this software? Your web page is very nice! Thank you in advance Luciano-Brazil -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 3 months

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DG haul, photos

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Tom You'll bring it to the next vcf here in California I hope. I wish I had space for such a machine. It is in beautiful shape. Dwight >From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj(a)wps.com> > >http://wps.com/NOVA4/ > >Not very good. Will take more when I get back to town. Not annotated yet. > >

21 years, 3 months

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Cyber 808

by kernsy＠netzero.net

Does anyone have any info on the Cyber 808 Disk drive Any specs or general info ? I think it was really made by Bryant It was about 3 feet wide , 7 feet high, and 8 feet long. It was hydraulic driven, and you used alcohol on a wand to clean the platters . It was a Control Data Cyber 808 disk drive. I worked on them in 1975 when they were still used at large computer centers. In fact I made a table/lamp out of one of platters which I am trying to sell. One of a kind art. Thanks kernsy(a)netzero.net

21 years, 3 months

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Windows crashing, was Re: Bill Gates: Teen Heart-throb!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>As a show of good faith :-) I'd like to make some recommendations if you're >going to get a Mac Mini for video work: Yeah Yeah Yeah, I ain't no panty waist amature here... this is what I went to school for (how I ended up working in computers is still a mystery to me!) :-) Believe me, I'd love better equipment, I just can't afford it. (actually, I'd really love a nice set of SVHS editing decks, and a Video Toaster to go with it) >- Upgrade the memory to at least 512 and preferably 1GB if possible. MPEG-2 >encoding, multi-layer compositing, rendered previews, caching, etc. all >chew up >RAM. I don't recall if you can upgrade the CPU in a MacMini (or add a >second >one) but it is much more important to max out RAM first and foremost. Are you kidding... OS X... video or not, you better upgrade to at least 512 MB of ram... I'm still amazed Apple sells machines with anything less. OS X makes Windows look like a memory conservationist! >- Stick with DV only. DV has a nice low data rate of around 3MB/s which is >enough for any hard drive to handle. In fact you can composite 3-4 >streams on >any cheap modern hard drive and play them realtime. DV is the only thing I can afford to work with. Cheap computer, cheap camcorder... I didn't say I was making epics here, I just grab a camera and shoot things because its what I wanted to do for a living, I spent all that time in college on the topics, and now don't work in the field... so its just kind of a hobby. I accept things looking like crap (hey, it looks better then the work I did on a PowerMac 6500 using Apple's TV In-Out card and Avid Video... that was some grainy chopping junk... which was even better then when I used to do analog editing... without editing equipment, just had to be fast on the fingers and hope for the best... ahh those were the days!) >- Assuming sticking with DV only, make sure your workspace (desk, etc.) has >room for a small cheap TV and your DV camcorder. Previewing on a monitor, >however nice, still doesn't compare to an actual video monitor (or properly >calibrated cheap tv if you don't have the cash) for checking saturation, >field >order, overscan/safe title area, etc. Even if it's a cheap $130 15" color >TV, >it's still better to preview via firewire->DVcam->TV. (Assuming your DVcam >does this kind of passthrough, of course!) Yeah, I got that covered. I have meself a nice JVC TV monitor (not a TV, that implies a tuner is in it... this is recovered from an old editing suite that someone else beat me to taking out of the trash, I just got one of the monitors before they got back for it) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 3 months

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Qty. 20 to 30 ... 486 DX2-66 VLB Motherboards needed in the Netherlands

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello, Does anyone in Europe, preferably Netherlands, want to get together 20 to 30 motherboards 486DX2-66, Intel ( or possibly AMD ) with at least 2 VLB slots for Amplicon Benelux in the Netherlands. They preferred they all be the same mfg and model and new or NOS to boot. I think they will have to settle for used and mixed variety. I see plenty in Germany, but it seems almost no one in Germany uses PayPal, and it seems like it just couldn't be cost effective to have them shipped to the US and then back to Europe again. I think they should be ones that use a replaceable lithium coin cell in a holder because any NiCads from that era probably wouldn't hold a charge very well any more, and Dallas type devices would be at the end of their service life, and if soldered on, too much trouble and significantly expensive to change out. I'm pretty sure they would want them tested and with some kind of guarantee, though that may have to be accomplished by buying some extras beyond the quantity they are asking for. I don't know what their budget is for this, but I did think that they needed to make it enough to motivate anyone to get involved with it, else it looked like a "do it yourself" type project. If anyone in the Netherlands or Germany, that can accept Paypal, can do this, let me know. Respond to ... <tempmail.ab(a)verizon.net> as I won't be able to locate any response on the classiccmp.org mail list. Bennett

21 years, 3 months

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no more UPS!

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I'm boycotting UPS. I walked out of there about foaming at the mouth. I went there to ship a vintage cpu, and the gentleman behind the counter took one look at my box and said "that box is in bad condition", followed by "At UPS, we don't want to deliver any packages that don't look good", and finally "we can't have the box falling apart and it's contents coming out". I asked him to please take a closer look at the box I was shipping. True, the outside had many shipping labels that had been pulled off. But I explained to him it was a custom made US military shipping carton. The walls are almost 1/2 thick cardboard with 6 inches of foam form fitting around the cpu. There were no creases in the cardboard anywhere, and no sunken surfaces. This box was far sturdier than any box in the place. He told me my only choice was to take the package to The UPS Store and have them rebox it. I think they are just trying to push business to their UPS Store fronts. This box was extremely sturdy. So... I'm boycotting UPS and just needed to vent :) Jay

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Windows crashing, was Re: Bill Gates: Teen Heart-throb!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Sorry, the mac mini doesn't serve my needs (I work with video and audio >production, the stock mac mini isn't powerful or expandable enough). Odd that you would say it isn't powerful enough... it is more powerful then all but one model of the G4 that was released. It is equal to the single processor Mirror Drive Door G4 Tower, and the Dual processor version of that machine is the only G4 released that is more powerful. And you can get a bumped up version that is faster then the single processor MDD PowerMac G4 (but would still likely be beated by the dual proc if you use an app that can use both procs) Granted, if you are doing video work, I can see that even the fastest of the G4's may just not be fast enough. But if that is the case, I assume you are either after a dual processor G5 Tower, or you just aren't serious about your video work (considering there is no match to it in the Windows world.) :-) Now... expandability... no doubt there, the mac mini is a Steve Jobs wet dream in that respect. (I'm not being a troll, really, I don't care what machine you use or your reasons to or not to use it... I'm just poking fun at your claim that it isn't powerful enough) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 3 months

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Two free 19" monitors (DIGITAL and SUN), Melbourne Australia

by lists＠popcorn.cx

Greetings, I have two 19" monitors that I don't need anymore and would like to free up some space. I believe that they work but I can't verify that as I have never even tried to used them on anything. They are: DIGITAL VRT19-H4 (GDM-1961) Manufactured by Sony Sync on green 3x BNC connectors (with what looks like passthrough connectors) http://popcorn.cx/photos/gdm1961_01.jpg http://popcorn.cx/photos/gdm1961_02.jpg SUN GDM-1962 Manufactured by Sony Composite sync 13W3 connector http://popcorn.cx/photos/gdm1962_01.jpg http://popcorn.cx/photos/gdm1962_02.jpg Pickup ONLY from Glen Waverley, Melbourne, Australia. Stephen -- _ _ _ Stephen Edmonds _/ \_ / \_/ \ Melbourne, Australia <_ " _> / \ / O \ / " \ stephen(a)popcorn.cx / ___ \ | O | http://popcorn.cx/ \_____/ \___/

21 years, 3 months

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Anyone TTY-Smart In Maryland? (Or Seattle?)

by ohh＠drizzle.com

I may have a favor to ask. :) I may have found an ASR-33 Teletype in Maryland that I can actually afford. Problem is, I'm in Seattle and it's a "come pick it up" situation. (It's in or near Laurel, Maryland.) If I end up buy it, is there someone in that area who'd be willing - for, say, $100 plus the expenses of packing and shipping - to pick this up, make it safe for shipping, pack it up and ship it off to Seattle? (Conversely, is there someone in Seattle who wants to sell me a nice ASR-33 for about $275? It'd certainly be easier for me to pick up. <g>) -O.-

21 years, 3 months

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Windows crashing, was Re: Bill Gates: Teen Heart-throb!

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I won't refute your argument, because it's like trying to argue against >artifacts such as the Shroud of Turin: No matter what the facts, it is a >religious artifact and is therefore impossible to disprove. <sigh> See my reply to Roger. Me thinks one too many people has posted on this list taking their stance too seriously... now everyone just assumes that any strange far fetched claims like I made are done for religious zealot reasons and not for pure silliness. (come on, you don't REALLY think that I believe that there is no machine that can run windows that can do better then a Dual Proc G5?!? That would be an absurd claim... even IF it was true right now, of which not only do I have no idea, but I seriously doubt that it is... by the time this thread dies, some company like AlienWare will have released something that makes it false) Sometimes, when something seems absurd, it is just that, absurd, and needs to be taken a little less seriously (I mean come on... I DID put a smiley face after it! Jeepers, do I really have to put <sarcasm></sarcasm> around my comments too?) :-) (once again, please note the smiley and just accept the fact that I'm really not trying to bait you, I'm just having some fun... lets all have a laugh, share some beers, and move on) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 3 months

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Misc available for free

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hey all, Free, plus shipping. I have everything split into 5 groups. I don't want to split the groups up, as I don't want to be sending out 100 boxs in 100 different directions. -Commodore 128, good shape cosmetically, all cords, power supply etc, original box, but doesn't work. It would freeze up on me, and I lost interest. -Zip100 for PC's (parallel port), new---I opened it, but I can't get it to work on either of my machines. It may very well be fine, since I can't get a Micro Solutions to work on my machines either. -a box full of PC leftovers, a pair of earlier Pentium class chips, slot covers, bay covers, centronics scsi cables, internal 50 pin scsi cables, floppy cables, several fans, a small scsi drive, a small ide drive, Hayes Accura 336 modem, drive rails, blah blah blah..... -IBM AT motherboard, serial card, 8/16 bit VGA card, Adaptec 1542B scsi card, 8-bit ISA MFM ST11R HD controller, Unisys Personal Workstation 2 Multiple Port Board with splitter cable drivers and instructions. -USR Courier V Everything (older one), doesn't seem to work, but has instructions, power supply, and good shape cosmetically..... maybe you need a PS to fix one, or make it look better? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

21 years, 3 months

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Looking for KA825 (VAX-8250/8350) CPU Card T1001-YA

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Robert Armstrong <bob(a)jfcl.com> wrote: > Does anybody have a KA825, T1001-YA cpu card that they'd be willing to > give away, sell, or trade for other VAXBI cards? Can't help you there, but... > And does anybody have a boot diskette (BOOT58) for an 8250/8350 that I > could copy? Look on my FTP site: ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG:/pub/UNIX/support/mdec/ MS

21 years, 3 months

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help needed with configuration KDF11-A, DLV11-J (PDP 11/23)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 21 2005, 12:04, Pierre Gebhardt wrote: > Currently, I'm trying to set up a 11/23 in a BA23 box with a H9278 backplane. > Unfortunately, no information can be found on the jumper configuration for the KDF11-A (M8186). > The most important question: Does this CPU-Board provide bus termination like the KDJ11 boards ? Yes, it does. There are 4 16-pin DIL terminator packs, usually blue, usually labeled 1311003-<something>. > I plugged in some resistor packs on the dedicated sockets of the H9278 to provide termination, but nothing can be seen on the terminal (9600, 8N1). The correct packs? > I'm aware of the QQ/CD configuration for the first 3 slots. > The SLU-Card is a SIGMA DLV11-J clone (SDC-DLV11J). Not knowing, which of the 4 SLUs provides the console interface lead me to check out the 4 ports on my terminal, unfortunaltey without any success. Can't tell you anything about that card, sorry. > The jumper settings on the KDF11-A look like this: > > > > top > ----------------------------- > | | > | | > | | | These two upper ones are closed > | | > | __ | > | | > | > | > | __1 > | | | This is a jumper block of 10 jumpers. The 9th one is open. > | | | The other ones are all closed. > | | | > | --- 10 > | > | |----| | > ----------- ----------- > backplane > > > It's a bit strange, that the jumpers do not have any numbers like W1, W2 etc. > That's the reason for this drawing. Firstly, I can tell you that you have a Revision C board. That's good, as it supports 22-bit addressing in ODT (Rev.A does 18-bit. Both will support 22-bit bus addressing under program control if the MMU is fitted -- it's a 40-pin chip type 21-15542 in the socket nearest the left of the board as you've drawn it). Secondly, you've miscounted the jumpers; there are 11 in that block, not 10. They're jumpers W5 (nearest the card edge fingers) to W15. Just to the right of W7 is W4. W3 and W2 are resistors nearest the right-hand edge of the board; W2 is nearer the fingers and is a real resistor (usually) and W3 is usually a zero-ohm resistor. The one you've shown "upright" near the top is W18, and the other one you've shown, near the right-hand side is W1. The last two are W16 and W17, just above the fingers at the left. W1, W2, W3 are things like the clock and must not be removed. W4 is the BEVENT line; when fitted, it disables BEVENT. It's normally not fitted, unless you have a programmable clock board. W5 and W6 select the power-up mode (0,1,2,3). W7 is the HALT/TRAP option; when fitted, HALT traps to location 000010; when not fitted, HALT enters ODT. Normally not fitted. W8 selects bootstrap address for mode 2; when fitted, the processor jumps to 173000 on power-up; when not fitted, it jumps to an address selected by W9-W15. W9-W15 select bootstrap address for power-up mode 2. W16-17 are reserved and must be fitted. W18 is the wake-up control and is almost always fitted unless you have some external circuitry. Power-up modes: 0: W5 out, W6 out: loads PC from 000024 and status from 00026 1: W5 in, W6 out: enters console ODT 2: W5 out, W6 in: starts bootstrap at 173000 or address from W9-W15 3: W5 in, W6 in: runs extended microcode (custom microcode ROM option) If BHALT is asserted when the processor is booted and W5/W6 are set to mode 2, the processor enters console ODT instead of booting. W9-W15 correspond to bits 9-15 (the upper byte) of the bootstrap address for mode 2 if W8 is not fitted. Jumper inserted makes the corresponding bit a '1'; removed makes a '0'. The lowest byte is always 000. You've got W18 fitted, W1 fitted (so the processor should run!) and we don't know about the rest. However, I'd guess from your description it's W6 that's fitted in that block, and no others. Looks like your CPU is several jumpers short of a full set; it would seem to be set to bootstrap from address 000000. I'd suggest you use wire-wrap wire and a wrapping tool to jumper some of the missing ones, or at least move the jumper off W6 and onto W5 (so it boots into console ODT), and check that W16/W17 are fitted. Factory default settings are W1, W2/W3, W6, W8-W18 fitted; W4, W5, W7 not fitted. That enables all the clocks and things, and sets the processor to try to boot from 173000, and to enter ODT on HALT. > Is the backplane termination required ? Yes! But you could put a BDV11 or another terminator board in the last slot, instead. You might get away without it if you only have a couple of cards in the machine because there are terminators on the CPU. I've not taken the SIP resistor packs out of any of my H9278s to measure them, becasue they're a b****r to get at. However, I have some spare DIL packs from other devices, and I can tell you that each signal has 180 ohms to +5V and 390 ohms to GND, giving standard 120 ohm termination. I expect those SIPs have 5V on one end and GND on the other. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HP2000 fans... alert!

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have come across a stash of 12920/12921/12922 mux card sets. These are the cards that are required to run pretty much any version of HP's Time Shared BASIC. I know some of you are working on getting up the dual CPU versions of HP2000/TSB, but a lot of people here have just one CPU. These people could get HP2000/E up and running - that version works on just one cpu, and no special microcode is needed. I know that the 12920/21/22 mux sets are pretty difficult to find, and as I said, they are required. If you ever want to get TSB up and running you should get in on this deal. Most everything else needed to put together a TSB system is still fairly available, except these mux sets which are quite rare. The guy who has them will want real money for them. I suspect he will want somewhere in the ballpark of $100+ bucks per set (it's a 3 card set). I'm going to buy a set to use for a 2nd TSB machine, plus another set for a spare. These cards probably wont be easily found again as they've all but disappeared (to my knowledge). I don't believe his mux sets includes the distribution panels, but the pinouts to build your own cables are well known. If anyone is interested, please let me know off-list immediately as I'm getting an order ready to snag them. Jay West

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Homebuilt TRS-80 on S-100 pictures are up!

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Hi Guys, Sorry for the delay - I finally got my site update posted, and the photos of the Homebuilt TRS-80s on S-100 cards are now available. Please visit: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html The Homebuilt TRS-80s are part way down in the first section "pre-PC/non-PC systems". Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Apple Disk II Analog Board

by marvin＠rain.org

Thanks Tony! The toroids are L1 and L2, and knowing they are 30 uH helps out a LOT! Since they are colored yellow, I am guessing they are iron powder. The application I have in mind is harmonic surpression on 80 M transmitters; hate to see good parts go to waste :). > > The Apple Disk II analog board has a couple of toroid cores on the > > board; does anyone know what the permeability is, or better, what would > > be the equivilent Amidon number would be? > > The official schematic shows 5 inductors : > > L1, L2 30uH > L3, L4 470uH > L5 68uH > > I guess you could count the turns of the existing windings, remmeber that > L is proptional to n^2, and thus get the specific inductance (probably > more use than the permiability) that way. > > -tony

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2.5" floppy -- from what gear?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 21 2005, 10:28, Joe R. wrote: > At 05:45 AM 1/21/05 +0000, you wrote: > >Steve Jones wrote: > >> There's a 2.5" Panasonic floppy drive that's popped up on > >> ePay today. What commercial gear shipped with 2.5" floppies? > > Some of the Amstrads shipped with either a 3" or 2 1/2" drive. Don't > remember which, it's been a long times since I've seen one. Amstrads use 3" disks, except for soe that use ordinary 3.5" disks. I'm fairly sure my ex-boss's Canon Ion camera used 2.5" disks. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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help needed with configuration KDF11-A, DLV11-J (PDP 11/23)

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hi everybody, Currently, I'm trying to set up a 11/23 in a BA23 box with a H9278 backplane. Unfortunately, no information can be found on the jumper configuration for the KDF11-A (M8186). The most important question: Does this CPU-Board provide bus termination like the KDJ11 boards ? I plugged in some resistor packs on the dedicated sockets of the H9278 to provide termination, but nothing can be seen on the terminal (9600, 8N1). I'm aware of the QQ/CD configuration for the first 3 slots. The SLU-Card is a SIGMA DLV11-J clone (SDC-DLV11J). Not knowing, which of the 4 SLUs provides the console interface lead me to check out the 4 ports on my terminal, unfortunaltey without any success. The jumper settings on the KDF11-A look like this: top ----------------------------- | | | | | | | These two upper ones are closed | | | __ | | | | | | __1 | | | This is a jumper block of 10 jumpers. The 9th one is open. | | | The other ones are all closed. | | | | --- 10 | | |----| | ----------- ----------- backplane It's a bit strange, that the jumpers do not have any numbers like W1, W2 etc. That's the reason for this drawing. Like the KDF11-A Board, no information on the internet for the SDC-DLV11J either. Jumper W1,W2,W3,W4 are open. There are 6 dip switches. On SW1, jumper 7 is closed, the rest is open, the same for SW2,SW3. SW4: jumper 6 is closed, SW5: 4,7,8 are closed, SW6: 1,5,8 are closed, the rest is open. Can anybody give me any hints on this configuration ? Is the backplane termination required ? Thanks alot in advance ! Regards, Pierre ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193

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Good news, bad news... Amiga News!

by zmerch＠30below.com

The manager of a local radio station here _years_ ago was going to sell me 2 Amiga 1200s he was no longer using, as he had an Amiga 4000T as his (and his wife's) main computer. At that time, he'd mentioned that he'd never give up the 4000T. For over 6 months after the initial meeting, I'd tried to contact him to no avail, so eventually I gave up... The other day, I was asked if I could repair a Win2K setup on a laptop without requiring to reformat for him and was asked how much it would cost: I said "One of your Amigas." He'd said "sure." I was rather expecting one of the 1200's, but the bad news seems to be that they are probably no longer around (but I don't know for sure) and it turns out the Amiga he agreed to give me is the 4000T, but he needs to get some personal info off of it first, and doesn't have (or cannot find) a keyboard or mouse for it. I have a mouse for my Atari ST that's switchable to Amiga, but I cannot locate it right now... ePay doesn't seem to have too much, most of which is in the UK, so shipping might get 1) expensive and 2) rather slow. I found some adapters that would allow PS/2 mice to be used on them, would this be a good idea? So, anyone have any idears where I could pick up a working, reasonably priced keyboard/mouse set -- or is it 'nature of the beast' that the peripherals are expensive? -- would an Amiga 2000 or 3000T keyboard work on the 4000T? Or: Can standard PS/2 keyboards be 'rewired' for use on them, or is it a totally different protocol? I have *many* of these at my disposal, and trashing a few for testing would be no big deal to me... ;-) Thanks one and all, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | A new truth in advertising slogan SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers | for MicroSoft: "We're not the oxy... zmerch(a)30below.com | ...in oxymoron!"

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RTL Logic

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

My goal on the Tic Tac Toe machine was to build an exact replica of the Don Lancaster 1971 design. I have 2 of the MC789 inverters so I could build one unit. I could change the design to use a TTL open collector inverter but it would be nice to have the exact circuit board. If I switched to TTL I could make the board or a kit available. (I figure a total market of under 10 units.) The other item of a exact replica is the lamp color filters. The company AMP Hexseal still makes the filters (No.1813-27). I wonder how much they cost? http://www.apmhexseal.com/lampfilters/filters.htm After two years of looking a found exact replacement JFET transistors (TIS58) for my TV Typewriter restorations. The generic replacement JFET worked but it is nice to have the exact part. http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/CT1024_Index.htm I got these parts on eBay for $1.35 plus $2.70 shipping. 13 TIS58 16 TIS97 7 L7805CV 2 L7808CV 4 L78N08 5 78L05A ------------------------------- Michael Holley swtpc6800(a)comcast.net www.swtpc.com -------------------------------

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Fluke 9110FT + 9132

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

Hi, I found a Fluke 9110FT "digital troubleshooter" with a 9132 "memory interface pod" "configured for FT-68030". Does the 9100 documentation (available on bitsavers for exemple) applies to this model too ? Is it an enhanced version of the 9100 and 9105 ? What would be a decent price for the lot described above ? Thanks! -- Stephane Paris, France.

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Looking for KA825 (VAX-8250/8350) CPU Card T1001-YA

by bob＠jfcl.com

The good news is that I recently acquired a VAX 8350 in good condition along with a back plane full of cards. The bad news is that, despite all the cards in there, the previous owner had removed the CPU cards (both of 'em, this being a dual processor machine!). Does anybody have a KA825, T1001-YA cpu card that they'd be willing to give away, sell, or trade for other VAXBI cards? One CPU's enough (I'll settle for an 8250!). THanks, Bob Armstrong

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Apple Disk II Analog Board

by marvin＠rain.org

The Apple Disk II analog board has a couple of toroid cores on the board; does anyone know what the permeability is, or better, what would be the equivilent Amidon number would be? Also, if anyone needs some of the boards, let me know. $5.00 including USPS priority mail (they supply the box!) for up to 1 pound of boards in the US :). These are untested pulls.

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RTL Logic

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks(a)gmail.com> > >On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:04:49 +0000, Michael Holley ><swtpc6800(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> My goal on the Tic Tac Toe machine was to build an exact replica of the Don Lancaster 1971 design. > >Nice... I'm intrigued enought to consider it myself. It'll probably >take a bunch of parts scrounging, though. Were you planning on >laser-printer transfer film for the PCB? > >-ethan > Hi My first home brew digital project was to make a digital dice using RTL jk-flops. I ran the thing >from a 9 volt battery and a regulator to get to 3.6v. It drained the 9v battery in just a few minutes of operation. It used mercury switches to control the power and the roll timing. I remember going from Homestead Florida to Fort Lauderdale to find the surplus place with the logic boards to strip the RTL from. Dwight

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VAX? or PDP-11? You bet the judge.

by vcf＠siconic.com

Geoff Roberts asked me to post this to the list. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5157158461 I assume the dweeb in the picture is not included. I doubt you'd want him anyway...he looks like trouble. So, Geoff thinks this is an 11/33. I've never even heard of an 11/33. But there you have it. I've done my part. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Oops! Dwight >From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com> > >Hi Sellam > There is an item on ebay that you might want to watch. >It is a card punch reader. #5157204731 >Later >Dwight > > >

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Sellam There is an item on ebay that you might want to watch. It is a card punch reader. #5157204731 Later Dwight

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no more UPS!

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 11:43 PM 1/19/05 +0000, you wrote: >>> You should have demanded to speak with his supervisor. The man is >>> obviously an idiot. >> >>And what makes you think his supervisor would not also be an idiot? >> >>-tony > > I HAVE spoken to the supervisors and to the national customer service >office and believe me they ARE idiots! I've met or talked to over a dozen >people from UPS and there's only ONE that I've ever dealt with that wasn't >an idiot! > > Joe > > Hi Joe Unlike USPS, they do not have to take any kind of intelligence test. I remember when I went down to pick up my EC-1 ( Heathkit tube analog computer ). The fellow brought the unit out and just dropped it on the counter from about three feet. I considered talking the the manager when I realized that his badge said he was the manager. Dwight

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Urgent rescue of c't mags from 1988 - 1995

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

I didn't know that. Does anyone have the DVD/CD? I would very much like those transputer articles (and the software) associated with them... Thanks, Ram -----Original Message----- From: emanuel stiebler [mailto:emu@ecubics.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:59 AM To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Urgent rescue of c't mags from 1988 - 1995 Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Hi, > > I know someone who has a fairly complete collection of c't magazines > in Austria. Please respond if you want them. I am only interested in > two articles on transputers (which he is planning on scanning for me). > Let me know otherwise he is going to throw them away... Just in case you didn't know, the c't is also available on DVD or CD ... (c) 2005 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

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Urgent rescue of c't mags from 1988 - 1995

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

Hi, I know someone who has a fairly complete collection of c't magazines in Austria. Please respond if you want them. I am only interested in two articles on transputers (which he is planning on scanning for me). Let me know otherwise he is going to throw them away... Cheers, Ram (c) 2005 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

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