- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> >>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 23:01:41 -0600, Jay West > <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>>So is anyone still getting duplicate posts besides Mr. Corbin? > >> Jay the duplicate posts seem to have stopped. FWIW, the only duplicates I was getting were from YOU directly (primarily on the 11/45 Switch issues...)

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duplicate posts?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

So is anyone still getting duplicate posts besides Mr. Corbin? If so, I'll dig into it. Jay

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> > > By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, > > > I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site > > > cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no > > > longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may > > > now browse it anonymously. > > > > I an top that... some of my sites have recently > > become contentless..... > > Contentless? Like how? > Server Crash..... Waiting for new parts to arrive in Denver.

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, > I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site > cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no > longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may > now browse it anonymously. > I an top that... some of my sites have recently become contentless.....

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by wacarder＠usit.net

By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may now browse it anonymously. I plan to do more site updates to better document my project(s) in the near future. Ashley

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(no subject)

by tpeters＠mixcom.com

I believe this is a T-shirt with a lear-sigler ADM-3 terminal on the front- only $11 (and up) http://www.cafepress.com/lt_goodcomputer More shirts at http://legaltshirts.com/ [Computing] You are in a twisty little passage of standards, all conflicting. --Michael Meissner, meissner at osf.org --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA

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Looking for Layered Documentation for DEC APL V4.0 circa VMS 5.4/5.5

by m.wickens＠rhodium-consulting.com

Hi, I managed to get DEC APL V4.0 working and am now looking for the associated layered documentation. It would correspond to OpenVMS Release 5.4/5.5. If anyone knows if DEC did supply layered documentation on CD for these releases at least this would be a start. Alternatively, if someone has access to the paper documentation :) The volumes I'm after are: "VAX APL Reference Manual" "VAX APL User's Guide" "VAX APL Language Summary" Many thanks to everyone who has offered their support and help so far. I can confirm that the product uses downloadable fonts for various terminals such as VT220, these work on my VT520. I'd bet there aren't many terminal emulators that can handle downloadable fonts! Regards, Mark. -- Mark Wickens Rhodium Consulting Ltd

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Data General Nova 4/X, photos

by tomj＠wps.com

A few photos at http://wps.com/NOVA4/pitchas.html I didn't want to take the machine to pieces just for photos, but next time I have cards out I'll photo most of them. I'm going to clean the heads on the disk again soon (tonight or tomorrow) so I'll photograph that apart. I'll drag out the photoflood lamp if I didn't bang its filament to death. My digital camera seems to be losing focus, it bother me, because I absolutely love this camera. It's a FujiFilm M2700. A "pocket" camera, 2.3Mpixel, but it was quite popular with pros as a "spotting" camera. I honestly don't know what battery life is; it's weeks-to-months (only good for a couple of weeks now; still the original battery). Bought it in 1998 for nearly $700. Always took great photos, but it's deteriorating, boo hoo. Scratched up, missing screws, etc. I know SLRs are better, but I'll never carry them, they become asshole magnets, get stolen, banged up, left at home, etc. I far prefer a high-quality "pocket" style, I carry it with my literally every day and use it all the time. Or maybe it's just the low light in my lab; http://wps.com/NOVA4/images/6070-cartridge3.jpg taken outside seems OK. It bothers me.

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DG board ID?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I just picked up a board at the local scrap dealer from his junque bin, as I recognized it as a DG board of roughly the right size & shape for my Eclipse machines. It's designated "107-000261-10". Any idea what this may be? Two small ribbon connectors and a pile of 8K roms make me thing part of a cpu cardset. Jay West

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cctalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6

by aek＠spies.com

On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:00 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: >> http://www.bitsavers.org/ > so what about www.spies.com ? Lots of stuff on > the net give the same original link and the main > site is down The person who owns spies.com decided to shut down web service. With the exception of my personal pages, including the minicomputer orphanage, it should all still be at bitsavers. This happened abruptly in January, and I didn't have time to do much other than pull the disc that had all my stuff on it, which now doesn't spin up.

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Michael's Holley got Boing Boinged

by vcf＠siconic.com

Getting Boing Boinged is like getting slashdotted but much more hip and cool: http://www.boingboing.net/ Scroll down until you get to the TV Typewriter posting, which then links to Mike's SWTPC website. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Ebay items

by jwstephens＠msm.umr.edu

This guy has a couple of pdp 11/53's and other stuff in a CNC case in the Chicago area. He probably didn't post anything here, but someone in the area might find some interesting stuff to grab. Looks like a part of a larger machine either upgraded or decomissioned. Jim Ebay Item , description 5169944715 Digital DEC VAX PDP11 pdp 11 MicroVAX II Cold War

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can I fantasize? I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run calculations through it. So I'd love to someday get my hands on a 402, 407, etc. I'm also now more interested than ever in getting more unit record equipment. I've got a 557 interpreter and an 026 punch. It'd be nice to have a sorter (082) but what I'd really like is some sort of accounting machine or even a calculator (fat chance of that). So, that being said, if anyone every comes across anything like this, I'm buying :) Worst case, I'll build some punch card equipment from scratch. That would be even more fun. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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The future of computing/technology

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

William Donzelli <aw288 at osfn.org> wrote: > About eight years ago, when I was at the big Downers Grove, IL POP (MCI), > the front desk got a call from an MCI telemarketer trying to get them to > switch their long distance sevice. About 3 years ago I was in a Cingular Wireless store in California resolving some issues with my cell service. There was some waiting involved, so I just hung out and chatted with the staff, whom I had gotten to know as a regular customer (I had multiple lines and had to change phones sometimes, etc). They got a call from a telemarketer offering them cellular service for their business. The guy had to politely explain to the caller that their business was a cell store... MS

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Amiga Video - (was: Looks neat -- Fairchild movie on DVD)

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> I have a pretty good Vid capture card in my system, I can save as > NTSC or PAL, save as a raw AVI, Mpeg-2, VideoCD or DVD, > so if somebody wants to send the tape to me, I can make short > work of it and post the file up onto one of my servers to D/L to > anyone who wants to burn a ton of DVD's or I can just burn > it to a master DVD and send it to whomever will make all of the DVD's Has anyone looked at the Copyright??? (if any....)

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Taking photos of displays...

by James＠jdfogg.com

> There is a 1600 Pan--something_or_other that Kodak makes > that is also fine grain. I've used it to make C size blowups > of astro pictures. It is hard to find but it is available. > Most places I went would tell me that it was only use by > professionals and they didn't carry it. I wish I could > remember that name. There are some specialty films Kodak sells that (I think) come from their movie film stocks.

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey at amd.com> > ---snip--- > He'll have to look it up in the manual. >Dwight Hi OK, I did a little googling for Sellam. INT 1E is the pointer to the disk table. It can be found at 50:22. All this info can be found at: http://members.tripod.com/~oldboard/bios_data_area.html and http://members.tripod.com/~oldboard/assembly/int_1e.html Be prepared for a few cookies. Still, for one playing with a PC, there is a lot of info here. Anyway, Sellam, I recall that smaller numbers made the steps faster. In any case, you can experiment with the values a little. If the table isn't in RAM, you may need to make a TSR to reserve some space hide your replacement table. Have fun! Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj at wps.com> ---snip--- > >If it's currently 07h, or something, make it 20h, or something. >Double what's there. Good Enough (tm). > Hi This most likely won't work. As I recall, the values in the table are a bit field of a register on the controller ( only 3 or so bits ). The other bits are for different purposes. Also, as I recall, the steps are faster for larger numbers, not smaller. He'll have to look it up in the manual. Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Darn, I wish I'd of thought of that! This makes sense. Dwight >From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy at earthlink.net> > >when you are formatting tracks you have effectively slowed the stepping >rate down to a rate slow enough for the stepper motor to keep up with >(step, time to format, and then step again...). When you are returning to >track 00, the drive is stepping at the fastest rate that the controller is >configured for. > >best regards, Steve > >At 06:18 PM 03/01/2005, you wrote: > >>So what I'm wondering is why it works fine when it's stepping towards the >>center of the disk but not when it's stepping back out. >> >>As I mentioned previously, the format command actually works: it steps 77 >>tracks inward, but can't move back to track 0 to write the boot sector and >>directory. >> >>-- >> >>Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > > >

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11/45 front panel question

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

ok, two questions. In at least the docs I have (11/45 service manual, user manual, and handbook), I can't find a clear description of how to toggle a program into memory. I'm assuming that when you enter an address in the front panel switches and hit "load addrs", that the data lights aren't supposed to automatically show the data value at that location. I'm assuming you must hit "exam" first. Is this correct? If not, I'd be autoincrementing and seeing the next data value. Can someone give me a good example of just how to enter two or three words starting at a given location? I think I can figure this out, but I'd rather be sure so I don't skip over something that isn't working correctly. Second, since it's been over 20 years since I did any MACRO-11 programming, could someone post a simple few line machine code program I can enter and run to see if the machine will even go into execute mode correctly. Maybe something that just adds two constants and stores them in another memory location. Once I'm sure the machine is working, you can bet I'll dig back into MACRO-11. For now, I'm just looking for basic store and run sanity check. Thanks for any advice/help! Jay

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by vcf＠siconic.com

So I made the adapter cable to connect an 8" drive to my PC. The basic connections seem to be there. I can actually format a disk from MS-DOS, at least halfway, meaning the drive goes through the motions of formatting all 77 tracks but then when it goes to write the directory and other whatnot it can't move the head back to track 0. The format aborts saying it can't write the boot sector. If I then try to DIR the disk the head backs up a track or so but can't seem to recalibrate to track 0. The head vibrates as if the drive is sending the signals to the stepper to retract the head but it only manages to move back a track or so each time I issue DIR. If I do it enough it eventually gets back to the stop position but it still gets sector errors. I verified that the drive susbsystem I'm using is good by booting RT-11 off it. I was able to access both drives in the system from RT-11. The PC system only sees drive B:, or at least when I try to access drive A: (which is configured in the BIOS as a 1.2M 5.25" floppy, as is drive B:) it does not engage the head. The notes I used to make my cable indicate that this might be what I should expect, since it said to jumper the 8" drive as Drive 1: http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/8-525.html "Set the drive to respond to Drive Select 1 (the default for PC drives)" (under the "Drive links" section). So I suppose it would make sense that the PC only sees drive B (drive select 1). Or does it? Any ideas? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by mhscc＠canada.com

-------------Original Message: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:54:05 -0800 (PST) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> Subject: Want IBM 400-series account machine >Can I fantasize? Can you ever... >I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them >incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run >calculations through it. Sexy, eh? hmmm, you need to get out more... FWIW, a while back I sent a box full of IBM unit record machine manuals, including some tech manuals, to Norm Aleks out in your part of the country. He was going to put them up on the web somewhere but I haven't run across them; if you're interested you might get in touch with him. I think Al had some on his site as well, and I also still have a duplicate copy for one or two machines myself. Good luck building that 402; meanwhile an emulator would be an interesting project... (I can see it now: patch panels on the screen & connecting hubs with mouse clicks & drags, virtual cards dropping into the pockets of the virtual 082 sorter, dragging a virtual card deck from the virtual 083 collator to the virtual 402, etc....) BTW, although the 402/403 &c were indeed officially called "accounting machines," they were usually referred to as "tabulating machines." The term "accounting machines" usually referred to the manual machines used in banks everywhere, mostly from NCR, Monroe & Burroughs. mike

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Duplicates...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

Jay Jay, Just just for for your your information information, I I am am getting getting two two of of each each of of YOUR YOUR mail mail messages messages. Other list members look OK.....

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not sure this went out 11/45 status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I finally got an hour free to dig back into my /45 restoration. Thanks to some spare boards to help test and some very good "CE quickdocs" (thanks a million ashley!), I got a little further. However, it brings me to two questions. 1) In the absence of full docs on the MF11-L... I'm not sure about the following. It looks like the 1st slot of the MF11-L backplan gets a unibus in (A-B) from the last slot of the cpu backplane. The 2nd slot is my G110, the 3rd is my G231, and the 4th slot has my H214 (C-F) in it. But looking at some of the docs, it appears that an H214 can be in slots 1, 4, and a few others per the diagram. My system arrived with one H214 in slot 4. Should it be first... in slot 1 under the unibus in? Since I had a spare from ashley, I put one in slot 1 and one in slot 4. I know the jumpers on the other boards may not reflect 16K, but I figured it might change things. So if I have just 8K set up, should the H214 be in slot 1, 4, or does it matter? 2) My front panel has an oddity (to me). If I select say address 10000 and hit load addr the address lights respond correctly with 10000. I then hit examine and get nothing (blank data lights). Whatever... but here's the interesting part. If I keep pressing examine over and over again, the address lights count up just like they should - except they skip bit zero (the rightmost bit, either 0 or 15 whatever dec nomenclature is). I don't mean that the rightmost bit just isn't displaying correctly, the actual counting sequence acts like the rightmost bit is the 2nd light from the right. I can tell it's not just a bulb problem because I don't have to hit load addr twice to "move on", the count is smooth and sequential without the rightmost bit. Any thoughts offhand? I know my memory system is likely not jumpered right. I'm looking through those jumpers either tonight or tomorrow and verify them. Thanks for any thoughts! Jay

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Age

by drb＠msu.edu

Late to the game. I always seem to get postings somewhat after others, as evidenced by seeing the originals along with most of the responses, in one batch. 1965. Got interested in ham radio in about 1972 when my father revisited that briefly, but didn't get licensed then. A school field trip in 1974 or 1975 was my first hands on -- the University of Nebraska had a machine running some variant of Spacewar (says my current knowledge), and I got to play for about 20 seconds until I got killed. I remember seeing an ad in an airline magazine in late 1975 for some machine whose identity I can't recall -- looked like an early PET (says my current knowledge again) with chiclet-style keys. Wanted it badly, but couldn't convince the parents to buy it. I didn't actually get to use a machine for real until about 1980. First real exposure was a programming class in high school -- fortran on punched cards, using the Michigan State University CDC 6500. (Anyone having a line on a copy of MSU's SCOPE/HUSTLER O/S, please let me know.) I subsequently funded my own time on that machine. Or maybe they were running most of the jobs on the 750 by then. About 6 months later, a TRS-80 model III came home, and I taught myself BASIC out of the manual over Christmas break. When my parents went overseas again in 1981, we had e-mail through The Source. I talked the school into letting me use their printing terminal (on site for some career exploration service) to dial in. Much concern over long distance telephone calls. :-) When I went to college, I bought an Osborne 1, blue, single density floppies, which I still own. [I should get that out.] Got an Epson MX-80 with graftrax, and a 1200 baud honest-to-god Hayes smartmodem too. One of the roommates wasn't impressed with the keystroke noise; another didn't like the fact that the modem auto-answered the phone one day. (I was playing with the idea of BBS software, and had gone to a terminal room to dial back into it.) I took COBOL (on cards), pascal and VAX assembler (on a VAX 780 running VMS 3.x), and 6502 assembler on 8032 and fat-40 CBM machines at the local community college. At the university, I got a student job supporting and expanding a menu-driven system which delivered horticultural info to growers statewide. It ran on PDP-11 gear, and when I first started, was running v6 unix. They upgraded to v7 while I was there. When I visited my family overseas, the project computer guys let me into their VM-370 machine, a 4331, and a DG (model? ran AOS-VS). I wheedled my way into a SAS class there too. The office machines were Vector Graphics S-100 machines, which was my first round at CP/M. I used to help the secretaries get Memorite to work, solve floppy problems, etc. One of the machines had a real ST-506 hard disk. The problem immediately became how to structure files on it so that they could find things. 10 MB, whee. Or was it 5? Later, I got a real job "over there", and managed a VAX 730 (VMS), and wrote some COBOL code for it and a 750. After struggling in college for a couple of years, I took some time off and got a job doing tech support on hardware and OS stuff, working on Prime superminis. On a work trip I stopped to see some friends; a fellow who was a grad student at Berkeley showed off a Sun workstation; shame I didn't get to play on it! The employer subsequently considered porting the application to VAXen, so a MicroVAX came to visit the office for a while, and later I was mailed off to Marlborough to benchmark on some of the bigger machines. Somewhere about 1986 I bought an SB-180, which I still have, and it was my main machine for several years. [Should get this out too.] I was lucky enough to get to test a Telebit Trailblazer from home for a fairly extended period of time. In late 1988 I bought my first PC, an NEC 386SX/16. Later, I spent time on AIX machines. I was the first sysadmin for the campus gopher and web services at MSU, hosted on an RS/6000. Picked up perl programming to help with document conversion and mounting at this point. I looked at early Linux, but first installed it and ran it for real in the 0.9 range; still using it on my desktops everywhere. Finally got my ham license in 1995, and am firmly resisting tube gear, since I have these other historical interests. (Ok, ok, so I got hooked on Moto Syntor X radios instead.) Most of the rest is too new to be "on topic". :-) It's also mostly boring by list standards. If there's a gathering in Dayton, I'd love to come along. ^[[145q De

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Paul Koning" <pkoning at equallogic.com> >>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Peters <tpeters at mixcom.com> writes: > > Tom> I believe this is a T-shirt with a lear-sigler ADM-3 terminal on > Tom> the front- only $11 (and up) > > Tom> http://www.cafepress.com/lt_goodcomputer > > Tom> More shirts at http://legaltshirts.com/ > >Cute... > >Maybe I should republish the T-shirt I made up in college, with the >text: > > C6 A4 83 92 > 40 C9 C2 D4 > >:-) > OK, I'll be the first to byte. What does that sequnce mean? Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin at xenosoft.com> > >On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> >> Wrong step rate! Poke a new on eint othe chip, or does it use the old >> >> table of junk INT 13h used to supoprt? >> >> Hi >> There is a table that one stores the step rate >> for the drive. You need to alter the value for >> slower drives, like your 8 inch. I forget where >> is it but it is in that lower area someplace >> ( 40:xxx or something ). It isn't a problem >> of the controller. It should work with any controller, >> you just need to find the table and change it. >> It has been a while since I've fiddle with it >> to make my drives step with less noise ( and wear ). >> Dwight > >While the default table is often in low memory, >sometimes it is even in ROM. >It is pointed to by INT1Eh. >To alter values in the table, copy it, alter the copy, >then repoint INT1Eh to point to the new address. >Be sure to restore INT1Eh when you are done, >or INT13h may encounter serious difficulties. > >If you've got a copy of the PC Technical Reference Manual, >most of the disk parameter table is documented right after INT13h. Ah yes, the big purple book. I couldn't remember where I saw that info. Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf at siconic.com> > >On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >> There is a table that one stores the step rate >> for the drive. You need to alter the value for >> slower drives, like your 8 inch. I forget where >> is it but it is in that lower area someplace >> ( 40:xxx or something ). It isn't a problem >> of the controller. It should work with any controller, >> you just need to find the table and change it. >> It has been a while since I've fiddle with it >> to make my drives step with less noise ( and wear ). > >OIC. > >Are there any drives that don't require such a modification of the stepper >table? I'm not sure what drives I'm using. They're mounted in an >enclosure and I'm too lazy to dismount them to check. > Hi For 8 inchers, I doubt that their are any that are fast enough for the standard 5-1/4 step rates. There was a program out there that modifies the step rates. I know it is on the web someplace. As I recall, it would try the full span of steps available and watch for errors. I would guess that this would work for your 8 inchers, even though, it was inteneded to be used to optimize the steps for faster drives. Maybe one of the others can remember what it is called. Of course, you are always the one that states that one should do a good google search first ;) Dwight

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Anybody need a battery for a Dell laptop?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found today. Still wrapped up like new but can't test since it doesn't fit my Dell. Dell PN 32499. This is supposed to fit the secondary compartment on the Latitude LS, LX and M models. Joe

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UPDATE: Texas Instruments 990 business computer

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

1978(?) Texas Instruments 990 business computer. The owner wants $750 for it. Too much for me, but certainly a nice system. See photo links below. There is also an external drive system, not sure if floppy or HD - it's at her house. http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-2.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-3.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-4.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-5.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/front-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/manuals.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ti-990.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ds10.jpg (these photos are in my ebay directory, but the system is not in my possession, and certainly not on ebay) This system is in Los Angeles. Anyone want to pick it up for $750? Must take all of it! Steve. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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web page translation tool

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> http://www.degraeve.com/translator.php > > Way off topic. > Hint: You have to use the full address including http:// in the > input box on the page above. > It is missing PaperTape can Punched Card formats [then it would be on-topic] btw: I literally fell of my chair for about 10 minutes....

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Taking photos of displays...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Recent discussion about photographing machines prompted this one. Has anyone got any useful tips for photographing (with a digital camera) running machines such that whatever's on the screen is captured with some kind of decent quality? I've been playing around with all the manual settings on my camera and just experimenting (using any kind of auto mode results in banding on the computer's display, and of course use of flash is no use for a shot of a glass screen). So far results have been mixed though... Any useful hints much appreciated! cheers Jules

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classic X86 hardware

by dr.ido＠bigpond.net.au

At 04:34 PM 2/28/05 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 15:00 -0500, 9000 VAX wrote: >> Before you guys start to laugh at me, I would like to itemize some. >> 1. The original IBM PC 5150/5160 MB >> 2. The HP 100LX, 200LX palm PC >> 3. The original Nexgen pentium class PC >> 4. The IBM "butterfly" 486 laptop >> 5. You name it The Compaq Deskpro 386 for beating IBM to market. The Tandy 1000 series for outliving the PCjr that it was a clone of. I'm not familiar with the Nexgen, was it anything like the Compaq Deskpro 5/60? EISA bus (no PCI), motherboard chipset was Compaq's own. It would have to be one of the 1st Pentium based PCs, but mines too hard to get at for me to go looking for date codes.

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New Retro Game programming book...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Retro Game Programming: Unleashed for the Masses http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/mag.dyn/News/9013.html Cheers, Bryan Pope

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C Users Journal archives?

by trixter＠oldskool.org

I am going crazy trying to find the text of an article in the October 1992 issue of "The C Users Journal" without paying $80 (the official fee of the CDROM containing all the texts). Does anyone have this issue and would be willing to scan a few pages for me? I'd be willing to pay you $10 or so for your time... -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/

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New Day - New Finds!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

One of my sources got a new load today. I went by and checked it out and found a HP 1000 F Series computer. It's been pretty badly beaten up but it has a full load of cards so I'll probably use it for parts. Also found a double sized battery backup/power fail battery for a HP 1000. Also found a weird set of black boxs that appear to be made for aircraft use. They're all marked Ampex DCRSi. One is marked Transport and has a large tape drive built in the top of it. The others are marked Recorder, Reproduce and then a Power Supply. Does anyone know anything about these? They're very unusual looking. Also found a pile of NIB Intel AboveBoards for the PC AT, a bunch of various cards with some interesting ICs that I'll pull and add to the parts bins, a Tektronix 4041 computer and two Tektronix 4041DDU Disk Drive Units for the 4041. But one of the nicest finds was a optical paper tape reader that can be set to read 5, 6 or 8 level PT. Changing the 5, 6, 8 switch raises and lowers different sets of guide pins in the reader mechanism and moves the PT left or right so that it lines up with the drive sprocket. The front says Data Precision DP203 and the back says Membrain AH30218. There have been some Membrain computer(?) cards showing up out there so I'm guessing that this came off of some kind of Membrain computer but was actually made by DP. Does anyone have any info on it? Joe

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Kicked out

by waisun.chia＠gmail.com

Jay, Just to inform you that I was kicked out of the list, which I've since resubscribed again. I noted that other long gone ex-list members were resurrected accidentally too... Good luck. /wai-sun

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Kicked out

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> If you subscribe to both, you WILL get double > posts. Or more precisely, you'll get double > posts of everything the moderator deems as > being on-topic and single posts of everything > the moderator deams as off-topic. Of course, if one auto-archive the ccTech list, then they get (in theory) a good archive of all of the topical information. Interactive reading is done on the ccTalk list. This technique works good for me, especially if a period of time elapses where I dont have the time to view and make manual decisions on all of the posts...

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Duplicate post notice, please read...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> He's getting duplicate posts because he's subscribed to both > lists, cctech and cctalk. Jay for the specific post I was mentioning the "To:" field is set to ccTalk at classiccmp.org in BOTH copies. NOT one copy addressed to ccTalk and the other to ccTech.....

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Wanted: Amiga A2410 graphics adapter

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I'm looking for the above card. It's the hi-res video card for the A3000UX (and I think A2500UX) Amigas. As far as I know, it only runs in Amiga UNIX. If you have one to trade, sell or give away, let me know off-list, and how much you want for it. I'm in Austin, Texas, US, ZIP code 78748. Doc

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by marvin＠rain.org

One book that has quite a bit of interesting information on these machines is "Punched Card Data processing" by Gustave Rath. I lucked out at the last TRW swap meet and found this along with "Industrial Calculating Devices" by Wilcox, Butler. The first book is available on ABE for about $9.00 or so, but the other book is a little more pricey at around $40.00. Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them > incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run > calculations through it. > > So I'd love to someday get my hands on a 402, 407, etc.

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classic X86 hardware

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>>> Before you guys start to laugh at me, I would like to itemize some. >>> 1. The original IBM PC 5150/5160 MB >>> 2. The HP 100LX, 200LX palm PC >>> 3. The original Nexgen pentium class PC >>> 4. The IBM "butterfly" 486 laptop >>> 5. You name it > >The first Compaq portable; it was notable for it's "portability" >but also it's high degree of IBM compatiblity (for the time). The Hyperion - the first PC portable (narrowly beat Compaq), cuter and smaller than the Compaq. Notable for it's *low* degree of IBM compatibility. [Actually it isn't *that* bad, but there are a few differences which prevent a number of poorly bahaved applications >from running] - Deserves extra points for choosing an obscure, off- the wall floppy drive with reliability problems, and molding the bezel so that other drives could not be easily substituted. These two factors gave a bad taste to what was otherwise a very nice little machine. I'd also add the Portfolio, as the first MS-DOS palmtop, and possibly the T1000 as one of the earliest successful laptop format PCs. For strictly personal reasons, and moving away from "IBM PC's", I would vote for the Nabu 1600 - 8086 based, ran CP/M-86, MS-DOS, Xenix and eventually QNX, using serial consoles. I had about 1/2 dozen of them at one time, my first machine with a hard drive, and the first that ran a "real" multi-user system - but almost nobody has ever heard of them... Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Taking photos of displays...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "der Mouse" <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> ---snip--- > >I don't know why they didn't look coloured. Perhaps because the light >level was too low for much colour vision? Hi Yes, that's the problem. I found that if one goes into normal light for a few minutes and then returns to the dark, you'll see much more color. I used this trick for comets. Comets are a nice aqua blue color. Dwight

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Taking photos of displays...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin at xenosoft.com> ---snip--- > >Does anybody have a good collection of Rainbow magazine? >There was a mediocre article in it (all the really GOOD stuff about >flat field lenses, etc. got edited out) > Hi To get a flat field, use a telephoto lens. The farther away you can get from the unit the better the depth of focus. It does require a tripod for a good image. Dwight

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list server problems

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

In case anyone can't tell, I'm having some pretty severe problems with the mailman software :\ All I can say is I'm working on it :\ Jay

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PING Fred VanKempen

by jpl15＠panix.com

Fred, if you're getting messages at all, pls contact me, thanks. If anyone else on the List has heard from Fred, or knows how to get a Message through to him, please if possible ask him to write me privately. Thanks! Cheers John

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Cromemco Software - what to do with it?

by mhstein＠canada.com

Sent this a few days ago & haven't seen it appear on the list for some reason; apologies if I'm duplicating. m ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Subject: Cromemco Software - what to do with it? From: mhstein at canada.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:46:26 -0800 (PST) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org I've been cleaning up the hard disks in my Cromemco systems in preparation for getting rid of them (no, they're not available at this time), and I have a question: There are numerous systems out there, and Herb and Howard et al are doing a great job of archiving the documentation, but what about the software? Is anybody archiving the various versions of CDOS, Cromix & Unix, and the languages & applications? For that matter, is there any point? I don't see many people writing Cobol or Fortran programs to run on a System 3... So, any ideas what to do with it? (no obscene suggestions, please!) BTW, any news about what happened with Don Maslin's collection? mike

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OSI Software Find!

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Well, since my C4P-MF has been rock solid stable since I fitted the new power supply and cleaned the drive head, I've been going through a bunch of 25 (and more) year old diskettes to see just what I have. Lo-and-behold! On a diskette simply labeled OS65D 3.2 (not originally mine, acquired I don't know where), I found really nice machine code implementations of Space Invaders and Asteroids! You don't usually see machine code programs on OSI diskettes, the OS was too crude to have a simple binary loader. Diskettes usually have BASIC programs, with maybe a couple of USR$ sub-routines in data statements. To load and execute the programs, you have to EXIT from BASIC into the sub-monitor and then load the diskette tracks into memory one at a time. Once you have it loaded, then you GO to the starting address. I think that these programs might have been originally intended to be loaded from cassette tape. Fortunately, the diskette had two BASIC programs, each of which PRINTs the instructions for loading the machine code programs. I'm really happy about this! People usually see OSI boxes running rather slow interpreted BASIC programs. These two programs show just what an OSI box can do. There is no attribution for the Asteroids program, but the Space Invaders is copyright 1980 by Michael Kincaid. Can't wait to show these at TCF! Bill

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Age

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

> It could be interesting to know the age"spread" of thist list > contributors, and how long we've had the computer virus >under our skin. 37, been computing since 1981 when my dad brought a ZX80 into the house and found meself to be amazed that I could tell it to do things in an english like language and it would just work. No tape recorder though, so I sharp learned the value of writing things down for later re-entry :) From there I went to the ZX81, Spectrum, Amiga 500 and then (spit) pc. However, I bought as many computing based magazines as I could afford, not realising that 20 years later I'd be getting hold of quite a lot of the machines featured in said magazines, though I still haven't tracked down a DAI :) Workwise I started in Operations on a dual-node ICL 2966 mainframe in 1984 then got the PDP bug when my old computing lecturer in college got me back in because he'd seen (apparently) fledgling interest on my part. The rest is all DEC based history..... cheers w

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classic X86 hardware

by Innfogra＠aol.com

At a rummage sale last weekend I picked up a 1991 Leading Technology 7000DX, an original 25 MHz 386 with a first gen NEC SCSI external CD-ROM, speakers, mouse, Keyboard, VGA monitor. What made it was all the original books and software including about a dozen games of the early 90s including DOOM II. I couldn't resist the box of SW and books. It was $5 for all. It wasn't till I got it home that I realized it is one of the first 386s (must remember to check which chip is in it). I think it is based on the magictronic board set. It had a proprietary memory card which you could load up with up to 8 megs of RAM (this one has 6 Meg.). I think it was really just used as a household games machine. Did have windows 3.1 installed but it really was used as a DOS 5.0 computer. It is a classic in its own right...and over 10 years old. Paxton Astoria, OR

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