If Paul brings some Dilog qbus boards, could someone look for a DQ614 for me?
I've been trying to find out if he has one, and haven't been able to do it.
> From: Pierre Gebhardt
> two H745 bricks (delivering -15V) which are still missing. I'd be very
> happy, if anybody could consider parting with one or two. Location is
> in Germany.
There should be some on eBait; mildly expensive, but if you get them from
the US, the shipping is going to be a fair amount anyway...
Noel
Hello list,
last year, I was able to obtain a BA11-F chassis for my PDP 11/40 build-up project. The power supply to run a system in basic configuration is complete except for two H745 bricks (delivering -15V) which are still missing.
I'd be very happy, if anybody could consider parting with one or two. Location is in Germany. Please contact me off-list.
Thanks a lot in advance for anybody of you helping me to work towards a running my first very classic PDP-11!
Best regards,Pierre
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Pierre's collection of classic computers moved to: http://www.digitalheritage.de
I recall the SAGE was an integrated system of control for Interceptors.
It began in the 1950's and became fully operational with the
F106 fighter interceptor aircraft. It could control an entire
intercept from wheels up to flare on landing. I never thought I'd SEE
a chunk of the system. Thanks! I think it stood for Semi-Automatic
Ground Environment, or some such.
What kind of cores does it use? I once saw a board of Ruby Rod core
memory at a junkyard. Very beautiful.
Jeff
> From: Pierre Gebhardt
> There are indeed some DEC power brick models on epay, but none
> regarding the H745.
Here is one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/270303423286
but it is _really_ pricey. I have dealt with them before, they put high
prices on things; try offering them a reasonable amount and see if they take
it.
Also, you could try contacting this guy:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/patrick-j
He has a lot of 'brick's listed, just not an H745, but he has a ton of stuff
(I 'picked' his warehouse, it's enormous), and maybe he just forgot to
re-list it when it expired, or something?
Noel
> From: Daniel Seagraves
> I spun up a blog for posting the ongoing status of things;
Cool! Thanks! Very interesting...
How many cards came with the CADR? My memory is dim, are there just memory
and I/O cards, or was the disk controller on a separate card from other I/O?
I wonder how many physical CADRs are left in the world? Anyone have a list?
Noel
Folks,
Trying my luck again. Looking for an external floppy drive for a Tandy 1000
EX XT clone.. They can be recognised by their white case and 30-pin female
card edge connector cable.
Please let me know if you have or know of one. Been looking for many years.
Thanks, Bill
On Sep 14, 2018 11:27 PM, "John Klos via cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Hi, list,
I've lurked here a bit but haven't posted much yet. I'm now working on a
system that I think people here might know something about.
Can anyone here tell me whether the CPU modules from an AlphaServer ES45
will work in an AlphaServer DS25?
According to Wikipedia, they're both EV68CB CPUs. Some sites (including
HP's QuickSpecs) list the 1.25 GHz ES45 CPU card as containing 16 megs of
cache, but some places list the 1.25 GHz card with just 8 megs, like the 1
GHz card.
If I could find a 1.25 GHz CPU card with 16 megs of cache, and if it'd
work, I think it'd be a worthwhile upgrade to my DS25.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
John
Free for pickup in Cupertino (or, pay for packing/shipping via PayPal):
Some PC Card memory/flash-drive cards...
not tested (Oddly, my 2016 Mac Pro Laptop has no PC Card slot! :)
(no, really, I don't recall getting a chance to test them when I bought
them over the last 10+ years, either, sorry!)
5 items:
PMC SRAM Card 2 MB P/N SM002M-NN (needs CR2325 battery, no sign of
corrosion)
Fujitsu 64KByte SRAM Memory Card (ICMC v4.0)
Intel FLASH Series 2 10 MByte Memory Card (1993)
Simple Technologies (new in box) FLASH Storage ATA-800MB
Type I PCMCIA
P/N STI-ATAFL/800
Simple Technologies (new in box) FLASH Storage ATA-800MB
Type I PCMCIA
P/N STI-ATAFL/800
First one to ask, via offline email to sieler at allegro.com, gets them.
As usual, I'll notify the first couple of responders personally.
thanks,
Stan
> From: Daniel Seagraves
> Two of them in fact, and a CADR - In my garage, no less!
Neat! Can you say anything about how they came to you?
> and I have a working PDP-11 to debug the CADR with
Was that part of the package, or did you already have it?
Noel
This link from fr.comp.ordinosaures is interesting http://f6aoj.ao-journal.com/crbst_752.html
Would be a shame if this really ancient videoterminal goes to waste.
As an aside : what a beautiful name the french have for there old computers : "ordinosaures"
Jos
Hi,
Still cleaning my storage/office ...
I have a new-looking 3.5" solid state drive for free,
pickup in Cupertino (or pay for packing/shipping via PayPal).
SanDisk 3.5" Flashdrive 20 MB (IDE)
model: SB35B-20
(possibly unused; in anti-static bag, seal unbroken)
thanks,
Stan
Free (pickup in Cupertino, or pay for packing/shipping via PayPal).
IBM Travelstar 8E External Hard Drive.
New in box.
Includes the PCMCIA card and cable.
Model: DTZN-0810SP
Capacity: 8,100 MByte
Note: as sold new by IBM, including the instruction sheet which says:
power is provided by the PC Card, no A/C adapter is needed,
and that you should ignore the green power switch on the box.
First offline *email* to sieler at allegro.com gets it.
thanks,
Stan
Hi, list,
I've lurked here a bit but haven't posted much yet. I'm now working on a
system that I think people here might know something about.
Can anyone here tell me whether the CPU modules from an AlphaServer ES45
will work in an AlphaServer DS25?
According to Wikipedia, they're both EV68CB CPUs. Some sites (including
HP's QuickSpecs) list the 1.25 GHz ES45 CPU card as containing 16 megs of
cache, but some places list the 1.25 GHz card with just 8 megs, like the 1
GHz card.
If I could find a 1.25 GHz CPU card with 16 megs of cache, and if it'd
work, I think it'd be a worthwhile upgrade to my DS25.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
John
I'd be interested too if the machine is in Europe ...
Peter
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Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not,
to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost
certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
peter
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Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
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Many thanks to all for the detective work. The page 3-34 mentioned is in a
Lawrence Livermore course manual on Fundamentals of Digital Sytems Training.
I love you all and will try to test you again soon.
peter
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Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
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Here's what I'd like to do. I have both a teletype 33 and 35. What would be
fun is the foot in the pedestal a emulator that lets me pretend I am
logging into a 2000 or 2100 and I can do basic and save files. One of those
files being what I think was called to Star Wars or something like that.
Basically replay my youth on a 35 which I had access to before 33.
Apollo motherboard dated 1988 013034
Apollo 008231 memory board
Apollo 0121173-001 with daughter board high res color display board
Tektronix 46UTXGC1006 3 button mouse, Logictech # is 119-18098-00
Can ship or drop off at VCRMW.
I'm starting to get organized!!!
Thanks, Paul
>Message: 18
>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 14:23:13 +0200
>From: Carlo Pisani <carlojpisani at gmail.com>
>To: technoid6502 at gmail.com, cctalk at classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Portable terminals
>
>we (at http://www.downthebunker.xyz<http://www.downthebunker.xyz/>) are developing a project that is
>a portable vt100 in laptop shape.
>
>done with modern components, essentially it's an FPGA + LVDS circuit
>to drive the LCD
>the chassis will be manufactured by laser-cutting plastic planes, then
>assembled with glue.
>
>it's not yet a public project since it's a personal team internal
>work, but maybe ...
>
>anyway, the firmware is barebone, with a simple OS that runs directly the VT100
>Il giorno dom 9 set 2018 alle ore 08:25 Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk
?<cctalk at classiccmp.org> ha scritto:
>>
>> Data General made a nifty and flexible terminal called "Walkabout". It
>> had 32kb of internal memory one could use to take notes on the move. It
>> ran on a 12volt wall wart which charged an onboard nicad battery.
<snip>
If you want a small, portable, battery-powered terminal, get an HPLX palmtop (95, 100 or 200). Runs for weeks or months on two AA batteries. The HPLX palmtops have a VT100 emulation. I have not had a need to use it, but Tony has and perhaps can comment on its fidelity to the real thing.
Bob
Brian,
thank you very much for the scans. The scan is very nice and the document
looks very interesting.
I would like to make some experiments to learn how the system works, but
first I have to obtain the missing keyboard for my HP 700 terminal.
Just replaced the line filter capacitors to avoid the
WIMA-RIFA-sound-n-smell (TM).
I have also read out the EPROMs with the operating system and sent them to
bitsavers if they want to archive them.
Martin
(Germany)
> -----Original Message-----
> ...
> 3. Re: AlphaWindows - Protocol Information? (Brian L. Stuart)
> ...
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:06:59 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "Brian L. Stuart" <blstuart at bellsouth.net>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
> Subject: Re: AlphaWindows - Protocol Information?
> Message-ID: <651900294.1493946.1536602819815 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Wed, 9/5/18, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > Martin and I thank you!
>
> Al and Martin,
> I've run the standard though our fancy copier
> at the office and had it scan at 400dpi, bilevel
> directly to PDF. A quick look with xpdf seems
> to be a pretty decent scan. I've put it up here:
>
> http://cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/alphawindows.pdf
>
> I also had a sales slick from ADDS for their
> 4000/AWT terminal that supported AlphaWindows.
> I went ahead and scanned that one in color:
>
> http://cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/adds_4000awt.pdf
>
> Hope that helps,
> BLS
>
>
> ------------------------------
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 19:35, Ali <cctalk at ibm51xx.net> wrote:
>
> > > Anything that runs a more up to date version of Android?
> >
> > Sure. The Gemini.
> >
> > https://www.planetcom.co.uk/
> >
> > I have one. It's a lovely little device and quite well-made. I am not
> > sure how robust it will be long-term.
>
> That is a nice device. I wonder if it is available in the US. Do you know if they keep the OS up to date?
Yes, it's available worldwide. I backed the kickstarter in January and
got mine in July. I think they have now caught up with the backlog and
are available at retail. I still have not received my peripherals yet,
though -- nobody has. But the company is doing OK and discussing a 2nd
model.
They plan to update Android but so far there's only been one update.
It's currently on Android 7.1. I'm hoping for 8 with Project Treble.
The retro angle is that it's a licensed successor model to the
late-1990s Psion Series 5 and 5MX. It has the same keyboard, licensed
>from Psion. The modern machine is thinner and does not have a
removable battery (sadly).
It also runs Debian Linux and Jolla Sailfish.
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The Beehive ATL-008 might be an obscure terminal today, but it holds a special place in my heart as the first hardware terminal I used extensively, and was advanced (for 1982), supporting user programming in C. It's an advanced ANSI/VT102 terminal.
It was based on the 68008 and had quite the nice interface, and extensions like soft keys.
There is a TerminalWiki entry at https://terminals-wiki.org/wiki/index.php/Beehive_ATL-008 and Bitsavers has the manuals at http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/beehive/.
A somewhat defining feature of this terminal was that the cursor control keys was on left hand side of the keyboard, which many found better optimized for data entry tasks.
The Beehive 3270 terminal was also quite advanced.
I was wondering if anyone might have one of these terminals - or at least the ROM from one, so it might be possible to pursue emulation?
Is there anyone who is into rescuing and preserving the firmware from the terminals of the past?
--
Jeffrey H. Johnson
jhj at trnsz.comhttps://ban.ai/multics
Trying to restore an Alpha Micro ColdFire-based system, and it's missing
its cache SIMM. It works without it, but it sure would be nice. AM doesn't
have much info on it but it appears to be a 72-pin 64KB SIMM (unknown
speed), same keying as 72-pin RAM SIMMs.
I doubt this is a custom part and ISTR that PCs of around that time used
something similar. If you've got something like this mouldering in your
parts drawer, please advise. Thanks!
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On Wed, 9/5/18, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Martin and I thank you!
Al and Martin,
I've run the standard though our fancy copier
at the office and had it scan at 400dpi, bilevel
directly to PDF. A quick look with xpdf seems
to be a pretty decent scan. I've put it up here:
http://cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/alphawindows.pdf
I also had a sales slick from ADDS for their
4000/AWT terminal that supported AlphaWindows.
I went ahead and scanned that one in color:
http://cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/adds_4000awt.pdf
Hope that helps,
BLS
If anyone is interested, I have 2 RK07 drives, controller and packs I can
bring to VCFMW. Would prefer to sell as a package, but will consider
breaking up.
Any reasonable offer.
Thanks, Paul
Perhaps something of interest for people here:
http://www.styluslabs.com/
(source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17858641 )
I was a bit mixed about this until I read that single written page had
1.4 mbytes - after that I finally understood this "writing tool" is
worse than Word ever was (or is it?). So it is going to catch up with
people (or some derivation of idea).
So now I am destined to... defending MS Word?
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
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** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **
Data General made a nifty and flexible terminal called "Walkabout". It
had 32kb of internal memory one could use to take notes on the move. It
ran on a 12volt wall wart which charged an onboard nicad battery.
The lcd screen is not backlit but it was useable in most any light.
The sliders on the face note-book-like machine controlled contrast and
darkness. I used one as the head unit for my Data General MV4000/DC.
The battery is likely dead on any you'll find, but it is easily
accessible by a sliding cover on the side which when removed reveals a
pack you can unplug and replace without tools.
It supported a fair list of emulations selectable on-screen including
vt220 and vt100 plus various proprietary 'Dasher' emulations. The
keyboard is better than most modern-day notebooks, it is VERY light-
weight and pretty sturdy. Here's a link to a photo.
http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/dg-walkabout/DSC06218.JPG
Jeffrey S. Worley
I have a Zilog PDS8000 Model 20 with some disks and manuals. It has not
been powered up since I first got it some 20 or so years ago (total
guess.) It was previously owned by a software developer. The boot disks
are still in the 8" drives :).
The NCR 1102-6000 is another one that I picked up years ago (who knows
how many) and it has not been powered up in the time I've had it.
Includes keyboard and original disks/manuals. Has two cartridges... one
looks like a parallel printer and the other I didn't pull out (memory?).
These are things I won't bring unless they are sold before I bring them.
The operating condition is totally unknown. So if there is any interest,
please let me know with offer. My plan is to leave for Chicago on Tuesday.
Hello all,
The current discussion about why VT100?s are so popular got me to rethinking a related topic. I?ve been thinking about this in the back of my mind for quite some time.
First, what is the most faithful emulation software that runs on *nix systems? Or is it the case that if you are running, say, GNU/Linux in console mode, or xterm on X11, that you can get a fine emulator simply by having an accurate terminfo entry?
Second, does there exist anything like a ?VT100 operating system?, that emulates the VT100 directly on the bare metal of the machine? In this case you?d use the external serial port to connect to the target machine.
One example use case I have in mind here is connecting a serial cable to a server?s BMC serial port for maintenance purposes, if it supports the VT100 protocol, in crash cart scenarios. Is it possible to do something like this by using the server?s PS/2 keyboard port and VGA monitor port? So, essentially a KVM without the ?M?? Is there some obvious constraint that I?ve missed?
Kind regards,
Andrew
Sent from my mobile phone
On 09/08/2018 08:10 PM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
> Yepper?? the? material that holds all together...
> ?
> I? remember? back in the? first? year in? Computer? Biz? we? came across
> one of these and it was? fun? to watch it? run self? test.... fast!??
> sold it to someone that had one and interfaced it already...
> ?
> Always? wanted? later? a combo? for museum? display of the? CRT and the?
> Printer... There is a great? glossy that? shows up on ebay? time to time
> that was a press photo of a gal? with the combo at a desk...
It's a bit surprising to see how few pieces of old peripherals have
survived. Sometime around 1985, we had a VAX 11/750 driving two CDC
(MPI) big 1500 (IIRC) LPM printers. I don't know whatever became of
them, but we couldn't have been an isolated instance.
It seems that more CPUs have survived than the accompanying peripherals.
This, in spite of installations with oceans of disk and tape drives,
for example.
--Chuck
Hi,
I have an HP 260 that I'd like to find a new home for.
I'm currently thinking of taking it to the ham radio / antique-computer
swapmeet
(ASVARO, held at Fry's Sunnyvale, CA, tomorrow morning).
Thought I'd mention it here in case someone was interested in it.
For those unfamiliar with it, it's small enough to fit in a Contico.
https://www.facebook.com/hp260hp250preservationProject has a photo (in a
cabinet
with a disk drive) on the far left.
www.hp260.net has some info about them.
Stan
(Cupertino, CA, USA)
One terminal system I haven?t seen mentioned is the VT LAN40. I bought one new in the box about a year ago from Keyways ($400) and have found it to be very useful although it is not contemporary with most of the DEC systems we discuss.
It needs a flat screen monitor, but can have multiple windows that allow cut and paste between between serial ports and it can talk LAT, CTERM, Telnet on its ethernet port. It has a mouse and does a great VT340 emulation. The unit can
Mounted vertically and take very little bench space, but as has been mentioned before the keyboard is a typical VT420 sized keyboard.
It has a history buffer so has many of the advantages of a good software emulator but is very accurate in the emulation. It gives me a single screen and keyboard that I can use to simultaneously work with my RSX11M+ (via LAT), the RT-11 MINC via serial and the two VAXes and any RPi?s running linux.
The CPU is a little slow but response is acceptable. The ROMs in it might have bit a good starting point for reverse engineering.
I think Keyways has a number of them and believe he will sell to hobbyists at the lower price above.
I found this description at https://vt100.net/dec/vt_history
VT LAN40
In February 1995, Digital announced the VT LAN40, a colour windowing network terminal. This device was a diskless PC, containing Windows 3.1 in ROM, and supporting up to eight terminal sessions over LAT, DECnet, TCP/IP or serial line, using TD/SMP. The system box and mouse had a suggested list price of $890. It connected to standard PC keyboards and monitors.
Mark
> From: Al Kossow
> I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05
Those useable for the CHWiki (with credit, of course)?
Oddly enough, I just did the article on the VT05 about a week ago!
Noel
> From: Anders Nelson
> Their latest comments on Facebook mention they're about halfway there.
Yeah, but I was wanting to know how things had gone since that posting
(although I haven't looked to see if there's any update). As of last night,
they'd made significant progress past what was in the posting, but still had a
ways to go.
I've just sent in a chunk, so I think I have the standing to appeal for others
to help, too! :-) It's a really worthwhile cause - there aren't that many
System/370's left in the world! (I know, I know, not as cool at the /360, but
still important.)
Here's the URL again:
https://www.facebook.com/503408869821526/posts/1084448565050884/
with the details of the appeal. (You don't need to be a FaceAche member
to read it; I'm not, and it came up OK for me.)
Noel
> From: Paul Koning
> inside are a whole pile of boards, all single-sided etch with many
> hundreds of jumpers to compensate for not being two-sided. Not cheap,
> presumably
If memory serves, didn't the VT52 also have single-sided boards with a whole
bunch of jumper wires? Something relatively common, anyway, if not the VT52 -
I clearly remember the masses of jumpers on something, and Tech Sq had scads
of VT52's (to the point where VT100's were not that common when they did show
up, we were already full up).
Presumably, with automated placing machines, the jumpers were cheaper than a
large double-sided board (the VT52's boards were huge)? I'm assuming _someone_
did the math (including the amortization of the placing machine, which would
take longer to complete such a board).
> From: Al Kossow
> The biggest hardware innovation was smooth vertical scrolling
> ...
> I've never liked the feature
IIRC, we generally turned it off because it couldn't keep up at 9600 baud.
Noel
Is anyone interested in any DEC VT50, VT52(ONE WITH PRINTER), VT78,
any of the VT100 family, or any other video terminals or monitors or parts?
LA35, LA36, LA120, any other printer or parts?
Anything else? If asked, I will try to bring.
Thanks, Paul
Zane, are you talking about the VT100 specifically, or the whole VT1xx line?
My gut feeling is that the VT100 was at most 20% of the production in the whole VT1xx line. The internal expandability of the VT100 was a cool idea, but overall sales of VT101, VT102, VT131, and VT132 have to dwarf the original VT100. Then there's the VT103 and VT180 which are more than just terminals but still in the family.
I should go through my old pictures from the 1990's. At one point I had an entire garage filled with hundreds of VT1xx's.
Tim N3QE
I have asked Paul Anderson to see if he has a BC80D-5K cable for a DECMATE
VT278 (same as VT78) to RX02 pedestal twin drive. I am also looking for
the OS/8 disks. I am pretty sure my VT278 works, I have some spare parts
too, just need the cable and the disks hopefully to have a working OS/8
system.
SO - If Paul has no cable/disks and if anyone going to VCF MW looking to
make a deal for these items, please contact me through my site,
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/contact.cfm
Thanks
Billl
Hi,
for some research on ancient Unix, I am interesting in finding the
source code (tape, etc.) of the so-called "Newcastle connection", aka
"UNIXes of the World Unite!" . See, for instance,
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/13f8/6c18fa780031d76b80f359d6670f9f3debdc.…
or
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/cm/pcs/NewcastleConnectionR1.0_1983.pdf
for details. There are a few more papers which I know as well.
Does someone have the source tape or pointers to it?
THX in advance
--
Holger