>
>I am trying to run the ftp command on Windows (7) against an FTP server on
>VMS 7.3 (the UCX version of TCP/IP). I am sure this has worked in the past,
>but now when I try it connects successfully but VMS never sends back the
>login prompt. I tried running FTP on the VMS system back to itself and the
>prompt came straight back.
>
>Sniffing the packets I see a SYN from Windows, SYN-ACK from VMS and then ACK
>back to VMS. 60 seconds later Windows resets the connection.
>
Are you sure the windows firewall is not fouling things up? Can you FTP
>from the same windows machine to any other FTP server?
I vaguely remember a problem with the VMS TCPIP wanting to do a reverse dns
lookup of the client making the connection and this holding things up for
a while if it did not complete due to lack of access to dns servers etc.
However, I don't recall it causing the connection to fail.
>
> ISTR, isn't there an option for command line FTP to disable/enable
>local echo, or something to that effect? Have you tried a GUI FTP client?
>
I would stick with the command line FTP client. Many of the GUI FTP clients
for windows assume a unix or windows filesystem on the server and
completely fail to cope with the syntax of VMS filenames. Even the ones
that claim to understand VMS can still run into difficulties. I think part
of the problem is that the RFC describing FTP says that filenames should
be in the servers format rather than in a platform independant format and
the GUI FTP client producers tend to do what they think should work rather
than follow the RFCs to the letter.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan
> Regrettably that did not help either, I think it is something more
> fundamental than that. Does the following tell you anything?
>
> TCPIP> sh service ftp /fu
>
> Service: FTP
> State: Enabled
> Port: 21 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
> Inactivity: 5 User_name: TCPIP$FTP Process: TCPIP$FTP
> Limit: 10 Active: 1 Peak: 3
>
> File: TCPIP$SYSTEM:TCPIP$FTP_RUN.COM
> Flags: None
>
> Socket Opts: Rcheck Scheck
> Receive: 0 Send: 0
>
> Log Opts: Acpt Actv Dactv Conn Error Exit Logi Logo Mdfy Rjct TimO Addr
> File: SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$FTP]TCPIP$FTP_RUN.LOG
>
> Security
> Reject msg: not defined
> Accept host: 0.0.0.0
> Accept netw: 0.0.0.0
My VMSfu is rusty, but that looks reasonable. What happens when you telnet
to port 21 from another host? You should get a message like
220 blah.foo.invalid FTP server ready
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I'm having difficulty trying to locate this CP/M files, XLT80.COM and
XLT80.ASM , this is a Z80/8080 translator.
I found the file listed on this archive index
http://ftp.gaby.de/pub/cpm/znode51/fog/
I did a site search for this without any luck on
www.bitsavers.org/bits/Users_Groups/FOG/
It seems most of the files on there are disk images only.
Also did a site search for this without any luck on this Walnut Creek
archive http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/cdrom/
Would somebody know of more archives that have original files instead of
disk images ?
thanks !
=Dan
Today as I was looking through the warehouse in one of the boxes were
several digital manuals. One was a 1990 October-December Systems and
Options Catalog on Vax Systems/Decsystems. It's a great read full of
lots detail about each system.
JK
> REPLY/ENA did not show me any messages (I already had the console open in
> any case).
>
> Tried using Internet Explorer ftp://blah, after a while this comes up on the
> console:
>
> %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 21-APR-2010 20:03:59.18 %%%%%%%%%%%
> Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on VAX3
> Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on VAX3, system id:
> 1031
> Auditable event: Network login failure
> Event time: 21-APR-2010 20:03:59.14
> PID: 2020021B
> Process name: TCPIP$FTPC00005
> Username: anonymous
> Remote nodename: 192.168.0.15
> Remote node id: 3232235535 (0.15)
> Remote username: FTP_C0A8000F
> Status: %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user
Sounds like you don't have anonymous access configured on your server. Try
ftp://user:pass at blah
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ISTR, isn't there an option for command line FTP to disable/enable
local echo, or something to that effect? Have you tried a GUI FTP client?
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>ftp /?
Transfers files to and from a computer running an FTP server service
(sometimes called a daemon). Ftp can be used interactively.
FTP [-v] [-d] [-i] [-n] [-g] [-s:filename] [-a] [-A] [-x:sendbuffer]
[-r:recvbuf
fer] [-b:asyncbuffers] [-w:windowsize] [host]
-v Suppresses display of remote server responses.
-n Suppresses auto-login upon initial connection.
-i Turns off interactive prompting during multiple file
transfers.
-d Enables debugging.
-g Disables filename globbing (see GLOB command).
-s:filename Specifies a text file containing FTP commands; the
commands will automatically run after FTP starts.
-a Use any local interface when binding data connection.
-A login as anonymous.
-x:send sockbuf Overrides the default SO_SNDBUF size of 8192.
-r:recv sockbuf Overrides the default SO_RCVBUF size of 8192.
-b:async count Overrides the default async count of 3
-w:windowsize Overrides the default transfer buffer size of 65535.
host Specifies the host name or IP address of the remote
host to connect to.
Notes:
- mget and mput commands take y/n/q for yes/no/quit.
- Use Control-C to abort commands.
C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:39:43 -0400
From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTP from Windows to VMS
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Wild guess - try passive mode? Run FTP, type LITERAL PASV, then OPEN
ftp.vaxy.whatever
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Rob Jarratt
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>wrote:
> > I am trying to run the ftp command on Windows (7) against an FTP
server on
> > VMS 7.3 (the UCX version of TCP/IP). I am sure this has worked in
the past,
> > but now when I try it connects successfully but VMS never sends
back the
> > login prompt. I tried running FTP on the VMS system back to itself
and the
> > prompt came straight back.
> >
> > Sniffing the packets I see a SYN from Windows, SYN-ACK from VMS and
then
> > ACK
> > back to VMS. 60 seconds later Windows resets the connection.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this and know the solution?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rob
> >
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> On 4/20/10 10:47 AM, H?lscher wrote:
>> Has anyone got manuals for the DEC DMP-11 synchronous serial interface?
>> It was a common interface for multipoint DDCMP DECnet connections in the
>> era before Ethernet became well-established.
>>
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:03:45, Al Kossow wrote:
> The documents for the DMR-11, which uses the same board set, is on bitsavers
> under pdp11/unibus.
> I don't know what the difference is between the DMP and DMR
AA-H803C-TE DECnet-VAX System Manager's Guide says on page 2-45:
"DECnet-VAX supports four DDCMP line devices:
the DMC-11, the DMR-11, the DMP-11, and the DMF-32 synchronous line.
The DMC-11 and the DMR-11 are point-to-point line devices and are
considered identical. The DMP-11 is either a multipoint control,
or multipoint tributary line device.
The DMF-32 synchronous line is a point-to-point or multipoint tributary line device."
The boards are identical at the module number level seemingly, but there are most
probably different subtypes of the M8207 DMx microprocessor and/or M8203 line units
I think the M8207-RA is for the DMR11 and the M8207-YA/YB/YC is for the DMP11.
Anyone to confirm or doubt that?
Regards,
Ulli
Wild guess - try passive mode? Run FTP, type LITERAL PASV, then OPEN
ftp.vaxy.whatever
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>wrote:
> I am trying to run the ftp command on Windows (7) against an FTP server on
> VMS 7.3 (the UCX version of TCP/IP). I am sure this has worked in the past,
> but now when I try it connects successfully but VMS never sends back the
> login prompt. I tried running FTP on the VMS system back to itself and the
> prompt came straight back.
>
> Sniffing the packets I see a SYN from Windows, SYN-ACK from VMS and then
> ACK
> back to VMS. 60 seconds later Windows resets the connection.
>
> Has anyone else seen this and know the solution?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
>
Has anyone got manuals for the DEC DMP-11 synchronous serial interface?
It was a common interface for multipoint DDCMP DECnet connections in the
era before Ethernet became well-established.
Any hints welcome!
Regards,
Ulli
OK, another question :
a cheap source for the hp-ib, gpib connectors ?
What I found so far is in the $ 20 range.
(through hole, right angle, receptacle, ...)
Cheers & Thanks
Time for some early spring cleaning. I've got a pile of stuff I'm never
going to use again (I've decided to give up on my SparcStation
collection, for example :))...
Here goes. This is all located in the Seattle area, the smaller stuff I
can ship but I'd of course prefer local pickup. Make me an offer...
Anything not claimed will be put on Craigslist at the end of the week
and the remainder goes to RE-PC after that.
- DEC RL02 : not working, but is complete (minus front panel bulbs).
Very beat up looking, but clean inside.
- Acorn A5000 : works, but faceplate is beat up (got mangled in the mail
due to bad packing). Needs new battery (removed old leaky one before it
could do any serious damage). No keyboard/mouse -- not PS/2 compatible.
- IBM PS/2 Model 70 (386). 4mb ram, no hard drive but sled is present.
Boots just fine.
- Blue & White G3 Mac with 450Mhz G4 upgrade. Runs fine, no hard drive,
somewhere around 256mb of RAM.
- HP Apollo Series 700. Small pizzabox. Worked the last time I powered
it up.
- Amstrad PC1640 SD : just the main unit, no monitor (which supplies the
power). Missing one of the drives.
- Beehive "Super Bee" terminal : No keyboard, needs repair. In solid
shape. Heavy.
- 2x IBM PC Convertibles : One has a backlit screen, one without. Two
carrying cases. One AC adapter. Serial and Printer expansions.
- Sun Ultra Enterprise 2 : Dual UltraSparc IIi, 512mb ram. No drives,
but I have sleds somewhere.
- SparcStation 2
- 2x SparcStation IPX
- SparcStation IPC
- 2x Macintosh Portables - good for parts, no working hard drives
between the two, alas.
(None of the SparcStations have working NVRAM batteries.)
- Piles of old IDE disks (500mb or less). Unknown condition, many were
working at one point but time and stiction make fools of us all.
Inquire if you want details, I'm too lazy to list them all here right
now :).
- IBM P260 21" CRT monitor. Nice flat trinitron CRT, works pretty
well. Large, as these monitors tend to be. Does SOG.
Thanks,
Josh
I am trying to run the ftp command on Windows (7) against an FTP server on
VMS 7.3 (the UCX version of TCP/IP). I am sure this has worked in the past,
but now when I try it connects successfully but VMS never sends back the
login prompt. I tried running FTP on the VMS system back to itself and the
prompt came straight back.
Sniffing the packets I see a SYN from Windows, SYN-ACK from VMS and then ACK
back to VMS. 60 seconds later Windows resets the connection.
Has anyone else seen this and know the solution?
Thanks
Rob
This is what I'm attempting to get rid of from my warehouse. I would
like to get something for the machines, but mostly want to make sure
that the stuff doesn't get scrapped. Everything is assumed to work, but
I have no guarantees that it does, and it hasn't been turned on in quite
a while, but it has been stored in a climate-controlled warehouse. I'm
open to some trades, and negotiable on prices for most stuff. I'm not
willing to ship anything myself, but may be willing to drop it off
somewhere to be shipped - I mostly don't have time to pack this stuff.
Email me for more info on any of this stuff.
For the most part, this stuff needs to be gone by May 14th- when I leave
for Dayton Hamvention. I may be able to bring smaller (desktop box)
stuff with me, but larger stuff I won't be able to transport to the show
with everything else I'm bringing. Some of the stuff will start
disappearing at the end of next week via scrap or eBay if I don't hear
anything by then.
+ VAX 8700 w/ TU-81+ and SA482. Haven't had a chance to power up, and
will keep this if I don't get a good offer. Want around $500 for it.
+ DG Nova 2 w/ PERTEC 9-track tape drive and dual 8" floppy.
Asking $750, this will go to eBay if I don't get any takers.
+ DG Nova 4. Have 3 or 4, some missing the front-panel. 3rd party
Disk/QIC tape rackmount box that goes with them.
+ BA-11 10.5" tall UNIBUS expansion boxes. $25 each
+ SGI Onyx prototype machine. The same size and chassis as a Challenge
XL. $100
+ PDP-11/23 w/RL02s in corporate cab. $200
+ RM-02 drives. I have 4, want to keep at least one. Never had much
luck getting them to work with my RH-11 on my 11/84, but I don't think
there's anything wrong with the drives themselves. $200 each
+ VAX 4000/200. I have two or 3 of these. $100 each
+ DEC CMR53. 2 of these. A pdp-11/53 system with some special
communications cards in them. $100 each
+ AlphaServer 4100. $20
+ Various VAXstation 3100s for whatever I can get for them
+ 4 tape drives from IBM 3480-B22 tape units. I've considered saving
this for spares, but I'm not sure I care enough.
+ IBM S/390 G5 coupling facility. I'd really like to find the
replacement software for the SE to make it into a "standard" CPU, so
that I can at least run Linux on it, but I'm not sure that's likely.
$200.
+ Encore Mulitmax UNIX box. 32 x NS32332 processors and 128MB ram, and a
2nd rack with a 9-track tape drive and some 8" hard disks. $250.
+ General Automation SPC16/40 and 16/45. Missing the front panel for
one of the two, have an I/O box, and PSUs. needs some repair work. One
of the PSUs needs new capacitors. Will keep unless I can get $500 or so
for the both of them.
+ HP 1000 E-series, I think. Two of these. $200 each?
+ IBM RS/6000 SP. I've got one frame with quad-375MHz POWER3-II thin
nodes, and one high node (16GB ram, 16 x 375MHz). $200
+ DEC VT240 terminals. Probably 10. $5 each
+ IBM 9343-C02 DASD box. I have someone interested, but haven't heard
>from them in a while, and am not sure how interested they really are ...
I'd like to get $100 for it.
+ Two Amiga 2000 Video Toaster boxes. I may end up keeping one. $100.
+ Various IBM UNIX desktop systems, desktop VAXes, etc. $5 each.
+ Altos 8000 and 8600 systems. $10 each.
+ Tektronix 4010 terminal. $100.
+ Tullamore/Victoreen SCIPP 1600 1600-channel pulse-height analyzer.
Powers up, but not tested much more than that. Looks cool, and has CORE
memory inside. $50. Some pics I took a while ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vax-o-matic/sets/72157622536984302/
That's all I can recall for now.
Pat
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The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
So I got back from Notacon7 in Cleveland, OH, yesterday, and wanted to
mention that there was a classic computer presence there.
Robert & Jim from Fresno Commodore User Group were there and had setup a
variety of old machines including 64's, VIC-20's, 1541's, and even an
A500(Yay!) with a couple boxes of disks.
There was also a demo in the BlockParty demo competition from a guy who
used the Coleco as his platform of choice. His demo was mostly written
in Z80 assembly with help from some FORTH tools. There was a preference
for running these demos on the old hardware. Plenty of Amiga "trackers"
used during the music-only portion of the competition.
http://www.demoparty.us/
and
http://www.notacon.org/
has more info if you are interested.
Keith
It appears that there has been a lot of interest in the Tek 4010
terminal. As I don't want to pick anyone myself, I think that I'll end
up putting it up for sale on eBay and let everyone settle who gets it
that way.
I'll see if I can get it listed early this week.
Pat
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I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience buying health insurance
through the ACM. My career has taken some very interesting twists and
turns and it looks like I'll be running a consulting firm for a while.
--
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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I've been reading the HP Integral service manual that Al kindly put on
Bitsavers [1], It's a strange manual in that it includes schematics of
the main logic boards. Why, I don't know, other comtemporary HP computer
service manuals didn't. Not that I'm complaining...
Anyway, various thoughts occured to me as I remember some
thignn about that machine
1) Did HP ever produce the CS/80, SS/80 or Amigo drive exerciser software
to run on the Integral? It seems it would be the ideal machine for use as
a drive tester since it's so easily portable.
2) The later version of the OS ROM module has a space for an option ROM
PCB. It seems like this would be trivial to recreate (schematics of the
ROM Mmodule, inclding the pinouts of the option board connectors are
certainly in 'my' Integral schematics). If enough people are interesd,
it might be worth laying out a PCB...
3) The manual mentions that the Integral expansion bus was an
implementation of some other HP standard bus, but only rows A and C. What
other machine(s) used a similar bus? I can't think of any.
[1] I've also been reading the HP9000/200 Pascal 3.0 system
docuementation. A wonderful mine of information, but oh so annoying to
read on a screen...
-tony
I, too, have not heard back from John.
I am interested in the Atari ST
and one of the Pinnacle systems.
If the Pinnacle can run both
UCSD Pascal and CP/M-68K then that
would be a bonus.
--
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Maumee, Ohio USA
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/zip/1696634349.html
<http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/zip/1696634349.html> * OFFER- working DEC
PDP-11 CAD System w/accessories (Quincy)
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This is a working PDP-11/23+, in a BA-11 box. This is a fuly functional
PDP-11 running RT-11, has bootable floppies and hard drive. The reason I
have this is this system is the hardware basis for a CAD software package
called Pro-Draft / Producer. by what became Baush & Lomb.
Comes w/~40 8" floppies (yes, really!), detailed schematics of BA-11 box,
and all Pro-Draft software and documentation. You can fire this up and do C,
FORTRAN, and assembly programming, or CAD development, or have a very
unusually shaped space heater.
Please give this machine a new lease on life!
*--
Stephane
http://DECpicted.blogspot.com
I have 3x5" circuit board from IMS International marked "PYXIS BD". On a
narrow edge is a 50-pin header. On the rear are two edge slots that
appear to mate with the connectors of an MFM drive. It's in an apparently
unopened bag and visible at http://frotz.homeunix.org/images/pyxis/. Does
anyone here know what it might be for?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Does anyone here have an interest in carboard boxes that once held S100
cards? I have a banker's box full of them free for shipping. One of them
has "Cables for Golem" written on it by Jerry Pournelle. The cables were
recently sold.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
If anyone can help me obtain a Tally model 420 paper tape punch I would be immensely grateful !
I am restoring a old telemetry console and the Tally puncher is missing.
Once again, many thanks for any help/leads.
Walter Silva
wlsilva at sbcglobal.net
I've been contacted by a former software developer with extensive experience
with the UCSD p-System on several platforms. He'd like to dispose of most
of his equipment and documentation.
I'd like to help him find a new home for it all. I'm not quite sure
how to do that, but it might depend on who else is interested.
Please contact me if you are. He is located in southern Illinois, USA.
I am located in southern Wisconsin, about six hours away.
I'd like his spare Terak 8510 system and a Cipher 9 track.
There are two PDQ-3 systems. I am tempted to take one, as it is closely
related to the Terak. These are LSI-11 with Western Digital microcode to
run the p-System directly. They include 10 or 20 meg hard drives. They
are circa 1982. I think they're rare. The only mention I find is on
a UC-Irvine web page, although I've emailed with someone who worked at
the company that made them (Advanced Computer Design?). One of the hard
drives might contain some source code from ACD. He used these for software
development. I've found references that say these systems were used
to develop in Modula 2 and FORTRAN. They competed with the Sage.
There's an Atari 1040 ST running the p-System.
There are four or five 68000-based multitasking multiuser Pinnacle Systems
(later Logic Process) systems. These drove 8 to 16 users on Wyse 50
terminals. They are circa 1983. One is the bigger unit with more
horsepower and an internal tape drive.
There's two Corvus Omninet drives, with various junction boxes, cabling
and interface cards - perhaps for PC, Apple II and maybe Q-bus.
There's a bunch of p-System books, newsletters, etc. as well as
software. He was a USUS member.
There's a VT 220 and several Wyse 50 terminals. I might want the 220.
It sounds like there's lots of software going all the way back to a
copy of Wirth's CDC compiler.
- John
Hi,
I saw your add of things you are looking to get rid of. I am very interested
in your ONXY prototype. Can you tell me what the specs are? Do you have any
photos of it?
Robert Herget
Dear List,
Some bits of equpment that I have get hauled out only rarely and I
often waste a lot of time identifying them then trying to remember
where the heck I put the paper that describes their operation--and
then locating the disk with the related driver information.
I've been considering archiving the information on mini (200MB) CD-R
and taping said CD-R somewhere nside the equipment. Mini, mostly
because their physical size is convenient and I rarely have more than
200MB of information on any peripheral.
Does anyone else do something like this? I have little experience
with mini CDR--are they reliable?
Best reagards,
Chuck
Anyone need a handful? I have several sets of dead bicycle lights that
I want to get rid of, which have something like half a dozen to a
dozen each of greens, reds and whites. Happy to post anywhere for
cost of postage alone, if anyone has any use for them...
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Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419
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MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508
For the cost of shipping, a set of docs for the Dec RV20 Optical
subsystem.
Included is
EK-ORV20-IN-002 : Installation Guide (stapled spine)
EK-ORV20-OM-002 : Owners Manual (stapled spine)
EK-ORV20-SV-002 : Service Guide (spiral bound, but now loose leaf)
Item in in the Netherlands, weight is approx 0,6 Kg
Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Souza -
> Listas
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:50 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: New old products :)
>
> >> Next time, use kicad, diptrace or something useful. Eagle sux.
> > I'm not going to defend Eagle, but I'm unfamiliar with diptrace - what
> > makes it better?
>
> Ethan, it is a matter of using the tool, I could say wonders about
> diptrace, but I do believe nothing will be compared with you getting the
>
> tool and taking a look.
>
> > I use Eagle because it works on any computer I'm likely to be sitting
> > and and because there are lots of examples and user-contributed parts.
> > I'm not opposed to switching tools, but I'd rather not switch tools
> > just to spend all my time creating libraries for classic computer
> > components. If another tool has better libraries and is easier to
> > use, then I'm all for it.
>
> I use Altium Designer, but I admit it is too expensive for (legal)
> hobby
> use :o)
>
> I do believe in Diptrace. But KICAD is getting better and better
> everyday. More libraries and a very active development. Maybe you'll
> want to
> take a look at it :)
[AJL>]
Hi! I use KiCAD quite a bit and have designed several PCBs with it. It
works fine and is completely unrestricted. I think it is a fine product and
recommend it whole heartedly. It has improved dramatically over the last
couple years. Also, all of the N8VEM PCBs are posted on the wiki in the
KiCAD format.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Rutledge
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:26 AM
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Xedex Baby Blue CPU Plus ISA card
>
> I just found one of these in my pile if anyone wants it.
[AJL>]
Hi! I just obtained one of these boards and would like to get some
documentation for it. Does anyone have documentation available they can
scan, mail, or post somewhere?
Any help much appreciated. Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>> Oh, that bad RK8E controller just confronts me with "Data break error" :-(
>
> IIRC a ;'data break' is a bit like DMA. I do haev the prints and some
> technical desription, so I could help you debug this sometime...
Just for reference: databreak is exactly just DMA. It's just another
name for it. The "fun" part of the PDP-8 is that you have 1-cycle data
break and 3-cycle data break devices... :-)
You never see the 3-cycle version on any modern DMA devices...
Johnny
Hey all -
Picked up a Burroughs C3360 calculator this week. It's a programmable
4-function+square root and 10-register memory with a nice 16-nixie
display. (See http://oldcalculatormuseum.com/bc3660.html)
I cleaned it out, and it's working fine in calculator mode, but in
programming mode the program step counter is usually (but not always)
stuck at zero. Sometimes it increments properly for a few seconds after
power-up. Seems like a fairly simple fault to trace down, if I had any
idea where to begin... anyone have a schematic for this thing (or the
Sharp Compet 363P, which this machine is a rebranded version of)?
Hopefully the fault isn't in one of the LSI chips in this thing, I'm
guessing those are going to be hard to find.
Thanks as always,
Josh
A friend of mine is selling a number of computer brochures and
sales leaflets from the 1960s and 1970s. Looks like they'd
be of interest to some collectors here. They're on eBay
as follows:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/kate_elliott/m.html
--
John Honniball
coredump at gifford.co.uk
Hi
Does any have the original paper tape of MAINDEC-08-D5FA and/or a scan
of it's source listing?
It's an RF08 diagnostic for the PDP-8
The archived copies of the paper tape have a checksum error. I could
reconstruct it, but I'd rather
have a pdf of the source listing. I've looked and didn't find one anywhere.
I'd also like to see a scan of the source to MAINDEC-08-D5EB if anyone
has one.
-brad
-----------
Brad Parker
Heeltoe Consulting
http://www.heeltoe.com
781-483-3101
Hi folks,
here are some videos and pictures I took when operating an RK05f completely open with the exposed.
Hope you like it!
http://pdp8.hachti.de/?gallery/rk05f
And keep in mind: I did this for curiosity and the whole thing only lasted a few minutes. The disk
is back in the plastic shroud and nothing has been ruined. In fact the drive was still not 100%
perfectly adjusted while I shot the stuff on the page. In the clips the drive performs part of the
DEC maindec drive control test. I had a lot of trouble finding out the servo system's weakest
part.... Now I managed the drive to run reliable and to be able to retract the heads properly (seems
to be not so uncommon problem!).
Best wishes,
Philipp
--
http://www.hachti.de
List,
Just for the "FYI" file, Terak (UCSD Pascal) floppies appear to be
either SSSD 3740 format (FM 77 tracks * 26 sectors * 128 bytes) or
SSDD (Track 0, FM 26 sectors * 128 bytes, not used) 76 tracks * MFM
15 sectors * 512 bytes. The double-density format is definitely
standard MFM, not DEC RX02 (FM headers, "tweaked MFM data).
The MFM format is interleaved 2 to 1 with a one-sector skew per
cylinder.
The FM format is also interleaved 2 to 1 with a 6 sector skew per
cylinder.
For whatever it's worth,
Chuck
(P.S. I wouldn't mind owning a Terak, judging from some of the
program code I've seen).
I?ve gotten back into my Atari systems again and since I had a couple Indus
GT drives, I found a schematic for the RAM upgrade board for the drives, and
had PCB?s made :) my first professionally produced PCB?s in 20+ years. I?m
quite pleased since it was a first effort with new software when I hadn?t
touched EDA software in 20 years or so.
Lessons learned were:
Increase PAD size :) these are solderable, but are just a touch too small
by the software default.
Validate that pin one indicators REALLY render out to the gerbers. I have to
refer back to my PCB design for pin one since it didn?t render.
Quadruple check that all wires and nets are present. I discovered that a
trace between 2 pins on the connector(s) disappeared on me at some point
during editing, it is entirely possible I deleted it like an ID10T. So for
this run of boards, wire-wrap wire will be my friend to jumper the 2 pins at
the PCB.
Hi,
I already asked this in thesimh mailinglist, without replies, so maybe
this list is more appropriate to get a response.
I am working on a SIMH emulator for the Sage&Stride 68k machines
(Sage-II/IV). There is a lot of docs available at
sageandstride.org, which is the base for the development. One thing I
haven't found yet is a more recent boot ROM
than the available 1.2 version; docs mention 2.0 and 2.1. These versions
have, besides presumably a number of bug
fixes, support for the winchester disk card.
Does anyone have a rom dump (any format) of such a BIOS (16k)? I already
tried to contact David Erhart, the owner of the above
site, but twice didn't get any response.
Thanks in advance
Holger
P.S. The code is not yet ready to release (still some bugs in the FDC
part, some missing instructions, and the HDC support),
but I'll report in the simh developers list when it is.
Hi,
I happened to catch the last 20 minutes or so of the programme Electric Dreams, which appears to be on for the next few days on BBC2, starting at 7pm. A family have volunteered to see what life was like in the previous decades (70's, 80's, 90's). That is to say old modern tech in the house and home has been replaced by old tech - so no X360 or PS3 for the kids!
Tonight's episode was about the 70's and included a short scene with Sir Clive Sinclair, a Sinclair calculator, an old Sinclair TV advert and a Commodore PET - the father was trying (and failing) to do his day-to-day work on the PET!
Here's a link to the BBC site for those that can access it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/electricdreams/
Tomorrows episode is going to be about the 80's, and will include a BBC Micro among the 80's tech.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Did someone have a hack for 8" or 5-1/4" drives using a Flash drive ?
I like to build one to troubleshoot floppy controllers without risking
damage to the original drive.
There's one from Germany for about $300 but it's too big for my wallet.
http://www.ipcas.com/products/usb-floppy-emulator-fdd-to-udd.html
I'm trying to fiddle with my google search terms but nothing points to a
homebrew version yet.
=Dan
A little tidbit for you owners of Weller WTCPT irons with TC201
handsets that take the EC234 heaters.
If your old heater was made before 2002, be sure to also buy a new
BA60 sleeve and nut. The newer EC234 is slightly wider and won't fit
the old BA60.
Just something I discovered to file away for a rainy day.
Cheers,
Chuck
On 4/13/10, Alexandre Souza - Listas <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Next time, use kicad, diptrace or something useful. Eagle sux.
>> I'm not going to defend Eagle, but I'm unfamiliar with diptrace - what
>> makes it better?
>
> Ethan, it is a matter of using the tool, I could say wonders about
> diptrace, but I do believe nothing will be compared with you getting the
> tool and taking a look.
I don't see a Linux or Mac version, so it's a non-starter. I'm not
going to dork around with Wine to use an EDA tool; I'll just stick
with tools that work natively.
>> I use Eagle because it works on any computer I'm likely to be sitting...
I stand by that - Eagle works on Macs, Linux boxes and Windows boxes.
I don't have to worry about the platform in front of me - there's an
Eagle for each one.
> I do believe in Diptrace. But KICAD is getting better and better
> everyday. More libraries and a very active development. Maybe you'll want to
> take a look at it :)
I've heard of KICAD, but the last time I looked at it, it didn't look
polished enough for me to spend much time on it. Perhaps it's
advanced enough for a second look.
-ethan
> Message: 27
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:01:07 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Memorex 102 20MB Hard disk
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1004122154580.3802 at duo>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Has anyone on the list seen or work with one of these? I received a
> >> Morrow M-20 8-inch hard disk along with my N* Horizon and found the
> >> Memorex 102 disk mechanism inside (what a beast!).
<snip>
> The drive is not particularly small, BTW. This is a beast of an 8" drive
> mechanism with five platters and a voice-coil positioned.
The Memorex 102 had four platters and a stepper motor.
A 10 ohm resistor would limit the inrush to 2.4 Amps with zero spindle motor
resistance. Given the 112 has an inrush of 4.5 Amps, this further suggests
this is not a 102.
I have a disassembled 101 in my garage if that would help and I can find it
Tom
I was examining some old Vectrex cartridges and I noticed on one that the
gold on the edge fingers has worn down to the copper below. What's the
proper way to rehab things like this? Wipe with some solder and blow off
the excess with an air compressor?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On 4/13/10, Ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
> Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
>
>> I do believe in Diptrace....
>
> I have the older version of diptrace. I am not so happy with it.
> No PLCC sockets of any kind. No support for TUBES of any kind.
> All the new libraries have more surface mount junk. Manual routing
> is a pain. Auto routing does work no more than 3 chips for a two
> layer board.
Hmm... that would have killed my last project - a PLCC-44 89C52 (that
we later swapped out for an ATmega8515 with no board changes required)
and 5 ICs total ('541, 2x ULN2003, '14, MCU).
Went fine with Eagle except for the holes for the power jack and my
goof on the Port D bus. Autorouting worked for 75% of the project,
and manual routing is not tricky.
The first test program ever loaded into the board ran the first time
(blink LEDs on two port bits). I'd call that a success.
-ethan
Hi folks,
Looks like cctech's missed this one, but there's still several hours to go!
There's a pdp-11/35 being auctioned on Ebay uk:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEC-PDP-11-35-with-EIS-and-Core-Memory-PDP-11-PDP11_W…
It's in Halifax; a mere 50Km from where I live! Unfortunately, I can't
afford it :-( But I thought you might like to see what's going down
oop North ;-)
-cheers from Julz @P
Hi there,
I'm owner of a Professional IRIS 4D/50G made by Silicon Graphics some
time around 1987. The machine has apparently some kind of trouble
related to the CPU board. I'll include some details further below, I'm
open to any good idea.
Because of that problem I'm in search for a suitable CPU board. The
failing board is a IP4 CPU board (part nr. 030-0121-001 Rev A). I
presume that any kind of CPU board from a Professional IRIS line
machine would help (mainly IP4 and IP4.5).
Please drop me a note if you have a spare or can point me in a
promising direction.
As promised some details. The machine used to work fine once I had set
it up quite a while ago. Recently it refused to boot and upon
inspection I got the following error:
---- snip ----
EXCEPTION: <vector=NORMAL>
Exception pc: 0xbfc108a0
Cause register: 0x30001008<CE=3,IP5,EXC=RMISS>
Status register: 0x80000<CM,IPL=8>
Bad Vaddress: 0xc0000000
Error Addr register: 0x17b40
Local I/O interrupt register: 0xff <>
Parity error register: 0x0
Registers (in hex):
arg: c98cf600 ffffffff 15180 0
tmp: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
sve: a0017b93 bfc268c8 bfc268ca 1 54 0 1 800
t8 ff00 t9 502e8000 at 1 v0 c0000000 v1 f65da k1 bfc04234
gp 0 fp bfc04bd0 sp a0017b64 ra bfc10744
exit(-1) called
---- snip ----
This happens just after POST (I think) when the machine is either
about to start IRIX or to show the PROM menu. Of course nothing
further happens except that the error is repeated without end.
I did strip the machine down to a bare minimum of boards (IP4 and
Ethernet) and I also swapped the memory sticks. The only things I
could reasonably pull in a last attempt would be the VME Ethernet
board and the system disk.
Regards,
Gerhard
--
http://www,sgistuff.net/
Hello,
I have a 128k Plessey Data General Nova 3 Memory Board exhibiting errors. If you have the schematics for this board, a copy would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Tommie Mademark
My Data General blog http://www.foxdata.com/blog/