- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Hmm, have people on here ever found a *sensible* way of defining our interests such that it's obvious we're *not* interested in that x86 clone PC running Windows that you bought in 2002 and have just unearthed in your garage? I've been trying to put the word about a bit locally that I'm interested in rescuing vintage machines, but boy is it ever a struggle - sifting through offers of "very big, old computers" that turn out to just be PCs running a decade-old version of MS Windows is getting a little tiring (that's when the "very big, old computer" doesn't turn out to be just a CRT monitor, of course, which happened to me twice last week) Maybe someone's cracked this particular nut and got the wording down just right - or maybe everyone just lives with it. Setting a cut-off date of 1990 (say) wouldn't work, I think, because a) it might cut out a few interesting non-PC/non-Apple items, and b) a lot of people out there really seem to have no idea how *new* the item that they have is. Idle thoughts for an afternoon, anyway... cheers Jules

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DEC Boot PROMs; Looking for Old PROM Programmer

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi All: I have been lurking for several years, although I was quite active in the retrocomputing community before that. Work and other pleasures kept me a bit inactive until my retirement last summer. Just coming up for air! I have several old DEC systems, including pdp-8s, pdp-11s, and VAXen. I am getting going on them again. I have acquired some new (NOS I suppose) 82S131 ROM chips, and am looking to write some boot ROMs for my 11/34. Specifically, these are chips that fit into an M9312 Unibus terminator/boot ROM card. I want to create RX01 and RX02 boot ROMs. In DEC-speak, these are 753A9 and 811A9 part numbers. The ROM images are available through Don North at (http://www.ak6dn.dyndns.org/PDP-11/M9312/). Thanks Don! I have a one-size-fits-all new-fangled EPROM/PROM programmer, and I thought I had it made when I saw the chips. Unfortunately, my programmer is too new to handle these chips. Sigh! I wonder if anyone has a programmer they will either part with; or who I could send the 82S131 ROM blanks to, for programming. Alternatively, if anyone has spares of the these chips (753A9 and 811A9), I can swap you blanks for them. Thanks and I am looking forward to becoming active on the list and in the hobby/fixation again! Kevin mcquiggi at sfu.ca

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Ohio Scientific Challenger 1P

by jon＠jonworld.com

All, I've come across one of these systems. Is there any interest in these? There are 3 RCA jacks on the back, but they aren't labelled. I know that 2 are for a tape recorder and one is video, but which is which? Anyone know off-hand? I'd like to verify if it works/runs OK. It belongs to a friend of mine and he needs to get as much cash out of it as possible. Any ideas/offers are welcome. Thanks! -- -Jon Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.

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Does anyone have any use for UltraSCSI hard disks?

by lproven＠gmail.com

Not sure if SCSI-3 is too modern. I have some plain ol' SCSI2 ones going up soon, too. Anyway, I have just listed a couple of ST19171W drives on the Bay of E: items 270900073846 & 270900074301, I believe. Please excuse the pimping - just thought someone might be interested. Opening price, 99p. (A buck fifty, roughly.) -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884

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DEC terminals for New England Digital Synclavier II

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> The genuine VT100 has a white phosphor IIRC, but the VT640 I > say had a green phosphor CRT fitted. All the DEC CRT terminals were available with customers choice of green, white, or amber CRT's. Probably some other phosphors I didn't see too. The default phosphor was white for the VT100. My distant memory tells me that VT100-LC was the order code for the green phosphor I liked best (P31, long glow?). By the time of the VT-220, amber was really popular. Tim.

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Seattle Retro-Computing Society's 1st 2012 meeting: Sat. Jan. 28th

by searetcompsoc＠gmail.com

Come one, come all, to the Seattle Retro-Computing Society's first monthly meeting of 2012! It will be held Saturday, January 28th from 11:30 AM to 5:00 PM (please note our new, later starting time). Do you do any of the following with old computers? Will you be near Seattle on Saturday? + Use, collect, and/or restore them + Play games on them + Write programs for them + Develop new hardware for them + Help other people do any of the above If your answer was "yes," then the SRCS is for you! We exist so you can show off your awesome stuff, bounce ideas off of fellow enthusiasts, and be inspired by one another's achievements, plans and aspirations. No idea is too big or too small, and we're not picky about what flavor of vintage machine you prefer! Come on down and tell us about it! The meetings are graciously hosted by the Living Computer Museum, which is gradually fitting out a computer museum in Seattle's SODO neighborhood. There will be refreshments, a Buy-Sell-Free-Trade table, and enough table space & power to set up anything you may want to show off! For further details, please see our web page at http://www.seattleretrocomputing.com/ and our mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/seattle-retrocomp . Hope to see you there! Gordon "gsteemso" Steemson SRCS agitator-in-chief -- The Seattle Retro-Computing Society http://www.seattleretrocomputing.com/

14 years, 5 months

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DEC Application Note AP-M-017

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

Does anyone have a copy of the DEC Application Note AP-M-017 for the M730 and M731 bus interface modules? -- Michael Thompson

14 years, 5 months

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Availability of 36-bit systems [was RE: new haul, serious goodies]

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: Wolfgang Eichberger Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:34 PM > you're right, Ethan. Playing with a real 36bit Machine would be a good > pleasure. Personally, I never had the chance to work on one - except > virtual ones. It'd be great to see one in action - live, but as far as I > found out nothing survived here in Austria (correct me if I am wrong). You can always play on our Tops-10 and TOPS-20 systems, which are assuredly very real hardware. Just use the "Request a Login" button on our home page at http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/ to sign up for free accounts. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

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Ohio Scientific Challenger 1P

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

> >Subject: Ohio Scientific Challenger 1P > >All, > >I've come across one of these systems. Is there any interest in these? > >There are 3 RCA jacks on the back, but they aren't labelled. I know >that 2 are for a tape recorder and one is video, but which is which? >Anyone know off-hand? I'd like to verify if it works/runs OK. > >It belongs to a friend of mine and he needs to get as much cash out of >it as possible. Any ideas/offers are welcome. > >Thanks! > >-- >-Jon >Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN. Here is a link to the manual http://vintagecomputer.net/OSI/Challenger_1P/C1P-UserManual.pdf Here is a link to my hacked up OSI 1P just to make the point that no two are going to be alike, the video could be different than the users guide. http://vintagecomputer.net/OSI/Challenger_1P/ Note - the 1P is the same thing as a Superboard II with a chassis/cover. Bill

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P112 kits for sale

by drb＠msu.edu

How does the smt/through-hole discussion qualify as NOT hijacking the P112 thread? </snark> De

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Tektronix 4113 Host Programmer's Manual available

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/legalize/tektronix/061-2616-01_4113_…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

14 years, 5 months

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Cray-1 on an FPGA

by lproven＠gmail.com

This has garnered a lot of attention for me on Twitter and Facebook today. Hardware & case: http://chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/ The hunt for software: http://chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/ Helping recover the OS: http://blog.archive.org/2011/09/03/hard-drive-archaeology-and-hackerspaces/ -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884

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P112 kits for sale

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I have seven P112 kits for sale. One will ship immediately. The other six will ship a week later, which is when I expect some memory chips to arrive. I'm taking orders first-come first-served, one per customer and ONLY from people who don't have a P112 already. The price is $160 shipped in the US. For outside the US, I expect the charge to be $10 more. These kits include everything you need to end up with a working P112 computer except disk drives, drive cables, power supply, and terminal. You also get a copy of the Walnut Creek CP/N CDROM and Rlee Peter's Archive. Email me with your intent to buy and I'll invoice the first seven. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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diskpacks available

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

As I'm reducing my stash of DEC items I have the following diskpacks available : 8x RA60 @ Eur 5/piece 20x RL02 @ Eur 25/piece 3x RL02 @ Eur 5/piece 2x RK06 @ Eur 10/piece They are all in the Netherlands, pick-up is preferred. Ed -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email.

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cassette interface of Panasonic HHC

by raycretired＠charter.net

Hi Eric. I am looking for the printer out of the Rl-P1004A printer /computer combination. Do you have one that you would sell that is operational? Raymond C Phillips, LT USN Retired raycretired at charter.net 10104 West Argent Road, Pasco, WA 99301 509 646 3485. If interested please quote a price?

14 years, 5 months

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Brazilian curiosity: Schematic of many brazilian

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Al writes: > On 1/23/12 10:48 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: >> I suggest using Megaupload.com >very funny. Just to prove that I am at least 10 years behind the times and therefore on-topic, I'm going to suggest Napster.

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FFS: Plessy/Cipher Tape docs

by silent700＠gmail.com

I have completed scanning the manuals for the Cipher 1/4" Tape drive and its QBUS interface, along with some Plessy software that came with it. They are posted here: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=/computing These aren't in my hard copy preservation pile, so if anyone wants them (one 3-ring binder, about 3" thick) I will send them to you for shipping cost from 60070. Otherwise, to the recycle bin they go. -j

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Extended Deadline Call for paper Computing Frontier 2012

by computing.comp＠study.beds.ac.uk

### Apologies for cross-posting / multiple copies ### Call for Paper ACM conference Computing Frontier 2012 We are Glad to invite you to participate in the upcoming conference, IEEE computing Frontier 2012 The 9th ACM International Conference on Computing Frontiers May 15-17, 2012, Cagliari, Italy Sponsored by ACM SIGMICRO http://www.computingfrontiers.org The increasing complexity, performance, cost and energy efficiency needs of current and future applications require novel and innovative approaches for the design of computing systems. Boundaries between state of the art and revolutionary innovation constitute the computing frontiers that must be pushed forward to provide the support required for the advancement of science, engineering and information technology. The Computing Frontiers conference focuses on a wide spectrum of advanced technologies and radically new solutions relevant to the development of the whole spectrum of computer systems, from embedded to high-performance computing. Authors are invited to submit full papers to the main conference and Ph.D. students are invited to submit an extended abstract for a special Ph.D. forum and poster session We seek contributions on novel computing paradigms, computational models, application paradigms, computer architecture, development environments, compilers, or operating environments. Papers are solicited in, but not limited to, the following areas: ? Applications, programming and performance analysis of advanced architectures ? Next-generation high performance computing and systems ? Accelerators: many-core, GPU, custom, reconfigurable, embedded, and hybrid ? Defect- and variability-tolerant designs, dependable computing ? Power and energy efficiency: architectures, compilers and algorithms ? Virtualization and virtual machines ? Cloud-, internet-scale, service-oriented and smart infrastructure computing ? Compilers and operating systems: adaptive, run-time, and auto-tuning ? System management and security ? Impact of novel technology (e.g. NV memory, silicon photonics) on computing ? Computational neuroscience, neuromorphic and biologically-inspired architectures ? Computational aspects of intelligent systems and robotics ? Reconfigurable, autonomic, organic, and self-organizing computation and systems ? Interfaces and visualization for emerging applications and systems ? Novel frontiers in computational science and scientific data repositories ? Storing, managing, analysing, and searching large data sets (" big data ") ? Sensors and sensor networks. EXTENDED DEADLINES Paper Submission Deadline January 25, 2012 Ph.D. Forum Deadline February 15, 2012 Author Notification March 7, 2012

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PDP-8/I at the RICM

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

We reformed the capacitors in all three power supplies in the PDP-8/I at the RICM and powered on the CPU to see if it would show any signs of life. It randomly lit some lights and would not react to the front panel switches. Looks like we have some debugging to do. The front panel power switch was corroded and burned. Any idea where we can get a replacement? Were can we get some Oshinos OL-1 bulbs to repair the front panel? Does anyone have diagnostics for the 8/I on DECtape? -- Michael Thompson

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Thinking of keyboard interfaces (HP9915)

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

With this discussion of interfacing PC keybaords to vintage machines, I've been thinking about a project I've had in mind for some time now.. Firstly soem backgroud. The HP9915 is essentially an HP85 in a half-rack-width metal case. It could be run on a bench, or there was an HP mounting kit top put it in an instruemtn rack. Electornically, it's similar to the HP85. There is a buit-in tape drive. Ther is no printer. There is no built-in monitor, but there's BNC socket o nthe back that outputs TV-rate composite video (so getting a display is no problem). The keyboard controled IC is present, but obviously there's no built-in keyboard. There are some user-definable buttons on the front which are wired as the programamble function keys on an HP85. The keybaord row and commn lines are also buffered to TTL levels and broufht out on a DB25 socket on the rear of the machine. There was an HP keyboard that conencted here, this is basically just a matrix of switches wired to a DB25 plug. It's the same matrix as the HP85 keyboard, and that one is docuemtned in the service manual (although with at least one typo!). However, the keyboards are much harder to find than the machines. It's a 10*8 matrix with separate lines for the shift, control and capslock keys (these lines are simply grounded by the the appropraite key) My first question in designing this is : Is there ever a time when you press 2 keys simultaneously on an HP85 (other than shift or control along with another key). In onter words, is there ever a time when 2 locations of the keyboard matrix are closed at the same time? The reason I ask is that I can't think of one, and if such a case doesn't have to be considered there's a very simnple interface (a mutlipezer to sleect a scan line drivign the enable input of a demultiplexer to select an input line) that could be used. It'd be 2 or 3 cheap TTL ICs. I'd not want to connect a microcontroller directly to an external connector in any case (risk of damaging it, I notice that HP had much the same idea about the keyboard controller IC in the 9915, all the signals brought out on the connector are buffered). Thing is, it's a lot easier to replace a non-programmed TTL IC than having to program a repalcement microcontroller. So I'd either want to add buffers even if I was goign to try to use the microcontroller direcrly (which for reasons we've already discussed I think it 'pushign it'). The mux/demux ICs wouldn't need any more buffering IMHO, they could be simply wired to the connector. Of course if I do need to be able to have multiple 'keys pressed' at the same time, then I would haev to use the crosspoint switch or dual port RAM solutions we've already discussed. -tony

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PS/2 Keyboard adapter for TRS-80?

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Does anyone on the list know if there is an adapter for TRS-80s (Model I/III/IV) to use PS/2 Keyboards? Cloud-9 makes one for the Color Computer, but the keyboard matrix between the two families are slightly different. My friend has a Model IV with a bad keyboard (the thin film ribbon is damaged) and replacement keyboards don't come up on eBay all that often. Thanks! Al Hartman

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pdp8a assistance tapes terminals i dunno?

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:49:57 +0000 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> On 22 January 2012 18:55, MikeS <dm561 at torfree.net> wrote: > ----- Original Message: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:59:25 +0000 > From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> > >>> I dislike hyperterminal fairly intensely... > > >> Just curious: what is it specifically about HyperTerminal that you not >> only dislike, but dislike "fairly intensely" (other than that it used to >> be supplied by Microsoft and runs in Windows)? > As for me: I really dislike the business of selecting a session, attaching > it to a specified modem device and so on. I want a comms program to just > open up and point me at the serial port; I'll do the dialling, thanks. ------ Different strokes for different folks, I guess; for 'real work', i.e. connecting to an external system/device, I actually like being able to simply click on an appropriate icon and being transparently connected to that system without selecting com ports, dialing numbers, etc. ------ > I do feel that the basic function of a comms program is to be a terminal > emulator, though. HyperTerm compelled you to create a session, install a > modem driver, choose a modem and so on, even if you just wanted to type > ATI1 > ATI2 > ATI3 > ...etc. > If you wanted a dumb terminal session, IIRC, you had to configure a null > modem or a direct cable connection and point it at that. It was just > obstructive. ------ Umm, no, not really; if all you wanted was to talk to a comm port then like any terminal program you selected the comm port, baud rate and handshaking and away you went, optionally saving the configuration to a session in case you wanted to use it again. Of course most of the time you wanted to connect to a _system_ or a _device_ and not a comm port, which would require some additional setup like entering phone numbers, modem configuration parameters, etc. But yes, if what you wanted was to tinker with different baud rates, handshaking, emulations etc. instead of just connecting to whatever, then other terminal programs like Bray's Term, RealTerm, PuTTY etc. or even DOS's ProcommPlus or Telix were indeed more flexible, and I use them all as well >from time to time.

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pdp8a assistance tapes terminals i dunno?

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:59:25 +0000 From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> > I dislike hyperterminal fairly intensely... Just curious: what is it specifically about HyperTerminal that you not only dislike, but dislike "fairly intensely" (other than that it used to be supplied by Microsoft and runs in Windows)?

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DEC terminals for New England Digital Synclavier II

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

ADM-3A was for a long time the lowest common denominator in the terminal world. The VT-100 came later but became the next lowest common denominator. (Ignoring the VT52 in between.) VT640 is a VT100 with a third-party (Retrographics) graphics board fitted into it. They were the cat's meow for plotting and graphics if you didn't have a real Tek 4010 on your desk. I am guessing that there are additional graphics features the Synclavier could use on a VT640 but that's just a guess. ADM3A and/or VT100 emulation are pretty much expected on any terminal you would've bought in the late 70's onwards. And most all terminal emulation software for PC's claims to do them too (with different degrees of fidelity; MS-DOS Kermit really remains one of the best, with most windows terminal emulation packages choosing to emulate other terminal emulation packages rather than the real terminal!)

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Cromemco FDC

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:53:19 -0500 From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> Subject: RE: Cromemco FDC ... > I run SA-851's on my 16FDC with a simply modified ribbon cable. care to share the details? m

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Epson HX20 terminal emulaotr (and other software) wanted.

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Hopefully this won;t develop into a flamewar.... I am looking for a terminal emoulator program that runs on the Epson HX20. The copy of SIDHA-Dialog that was on a website is corrupt. I contacted the website owner, he agrees, in fact it's not a tar fiel atall, but an html error page!. Does anyone know of a terminal emulator for the HX20? I also read a rumour that there was a FORTH ROM for the HX20 that plugged into the empty ROM socket in the machine. Does anyone have an image of that or, inded, images of any other option ROMs for it? Thanks in advnce for any help -tony

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pdp8a assistance tapes terminals i dunno?

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

hi got couple thing i'm in need of some paper tapes for my 8a that i appear to be missing so i am unable to do much with my Manichean atm anyone up for making copies i don't have a way of hooking my asr33 into my laptop or my h10 high speed punch reader DEC-08-AJAE-PB DEC-08-ESAC-PB DEC-08-CDDB-PB DEC-08-LBAA-PM DEC-08-LPALA-A-PB these were also suggested to me by CMGauger on irc DEC-08-LRAA-D DEC-08-LBAA-D DEC-08-LHAA-D DEC-08-ESAB-D DEC-08-ASAB-D DEC-08-CMAA-D DEC-08-ARXA-D DEC-08-CDDB-D DEC-08-COCO-D DEC-08-AJAD-D DEC-08-AFCO-D DEC-08-KFXB-D os8? or am i nuts? but yea for sure i need a bin loader i got several rolls of asr33 tape and paper... also got one roll of the black tape for the h10 i could trade and bunch of h11 software on tape if anyone wants to trade?? i don't have the abillity to hook my modern computer up to my asr witch is a laptop a i have the fallowing tapes already MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM2 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2 MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM1 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2 MAINDEC-08-DJDKA-C-PS1 6/24/77 DKC8-AA OPTION TEST #1 MAINDEC-08-DJEXS-A-PB 6/24/77 2K TO 32K PDP-8A PROCESSOR EXERCISER MAINDEC-08-DJKMA-B-PM4 4/7/76 KM8-A OPTION TEST #2 MAINDEC-08-DJKKA-C-PB1 6/24/77 PDP-8/A CPU TEST MAINDEC-08-DJMSA-A-PB 6/24/77 1-4K MSA-A MOS MEMORY TEST and these fisher scientific tapes >> http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6067/6089172843_c1d5cb15c5_b.jpg i have a sr33 for communicating atm with the 8a i've got a dataram dr-118a 16kx12 16k stack ready to go in dunno w its jumpers need to be at on it to work with my 8k also would a serial cable from a pdp 11 (currently attached to a m8028) work with my 8a if i was to use it with my m8316 rev D connecting to a usb to serial if that would work any suggestions? note if your going to freak on me for spelling and or grammar i tried my best i suffer from dyslexia and its frustrating to be me so plzz bare with me :'( adrian stoness

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cctech Digest, Vol 101, Issue 33

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> From:?Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> > Date:?Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:45:10 -0800 > Subject:?Re: CHM's PDP-1 (was Re: PDP-8/I at the RICM) > > We had around 65,000 visitors last year. With that many members of the general public > in an exhibit, theft and vandalism becomes a real concern. Along with that, many people > feeling the need to touch artifacts, climb on platforms, and try to do things like open > equipment drawers. I volunteer for a Steam Engine and Wireless Radio Museum. http://www.newsm.org. We usually get about 1,000 visitors in 6 hours during our annual Steam-Up. Keeping a close watch on everyone is very difficult. A visitor actually brought tools so they could steal parts from an engine governor. -- Michael Thompson

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RDB/VMS for Vax

by jonas＠otter.se

>> > Just looked around at the Oracle Site but found nothing for VAX. Does >> > anyone have an idea how to get RDB for VAX? > I have it. Contact me off-list. A couple of years ago you could download it from Oracle's site. You will probably have to register first (free) but as a developer or consultant or whatever you can usually download their products for free. It is not easy to find, there is no obvious link to it from anywhere you usually find when poking around. You will probably need to search for it. I think I have a reasonably recent (~2-3 years old?) version of it too on a CD image somewhere. I know it is running on my SIMH. I could look for it if you need it. /Jonas

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Wanted: HP 21MX boards

by mloewen＠cpumagic.scol.pa.us

I'm looking for a couple of boards to get my 2109E configured for running RTE-IVB or RTE-6VM: 12747A 128KB Memory Module (1 or 2) 12731A Memory Expansion Module 12791A Firmware Expansion Module If anyone has any spares, please respond privately with your asking price. If you know of any sources BESIDES Crisis Computer, Monterey Bay Communications or Alant??, I'd also be interested. Thanks. Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

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Stuff for sale/free (Seattle area)

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

I'm in the process of moving a bunch of my computer collection into storage as part of an effort to de-clutter my far-too-cluttered house. In so doing I've decided to thin the collection a bit. This stuff is in the Seattle area, and I really really really prefer local pickup, especially for the heavy items. Items are free unless otherwise noted. More details available upon request. Thanks! Josh Computers: SGI Indy R5000 - $20 - No hard drive or RAM, but was working the last time I powered it up (which was several years ago.) I can probably scrounge up some 72-pin SIMMs for it if needed. SGI Indigo2 - $100 - R10K, Max Impact with 4MB TRAMs, 4gb drive and (iirc) 768MB RAM. Very nice system but I don't use it much anymore (and I have a better equipped Octane for those days I do want to play with a nice SGI :)). Sun Ultra 10 - $20 - 512MB RAM, 60GB drive, "Penguin" PC coprocessor. Acorn A5000 - Complete, but faceplate got damaged in shipping so it's kind of ugly. Has 240V power supply, I had tested this at one point with a 120V supply and it seemed to be working. NVRAM battery has been removed (after causing mild corrosion on the PCB, but nothing irreversable). No keyboard/mouse. 2x IBM PC Convertibles - Complete, working. Printer & RS232 expansion modules, and a pair of carrying cases. Now you can outclass those Macbook-using snobs at Starbucks. (Or perhaps not.) 3x Macintosh Portables. $30 for the lot. None in working condition, none with hard drives. Other than that, they're complete. Impress your friends with a laptop that weighs more than a small car. IBM RS/6000 (Type 7043-140) - 233Mhz 604e, unknown amount of RAM (I can power it up and find out if you're interested.) Includes gigantic POWER GXT800P video card. Was working last time I powered it up. 2x "ePod" tablet computers (w/box) - (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPod) Windows CE 3.0-based tablet device, color 640x480 screen, PCMCIA. A tablet years ahead of its time, or a useless doorstop? You be the judge. Non-Computers: Shibaden FP-107-1B TV Camera - The Seattle Science Center was tossing this out a few years back, and I couldn't let it get scrapped. It's a heavy old video camera from the late 60s. Complete with lenses but I've nothing to hook it up to so who knows if it works. Has some nifty tubes in it, though!

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cctech Digest, Vol 101, Issue 31

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> From:?silvercreekvalley <silvercreekvalley at yahoo.com> > Date:?Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:23:18 -0800 (PST) > Subject:?Sun 1 optical mouse > I have a few early Sun mice. These all have 3 buttons and a black case. The logo on the front > is the usual Sun diamond but is more of a blue colour rather than the later purple. I have one of those, made by Mouse Systems. It has the RJ-11 connector. > Does anyone know if Sun's ever supported 3MBit ethernet? I have a PDF file of a 1982 Sun manual titled SUN 3MBit Ethernet Board. I think that the Ethernet board in my Sun 2/120 is jumperable 3MBit/10MBit. -- Michael Thompson

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Mac Museum

by macabb＠carolina.rr.com

>> I have this huge collection of Macs (302 different), accessories, software, manuals, magazines, and all such related. >> I have collected these since '84, and have these in my 1400 Sq ft house. I just turned 68, and my aging takes a toll on my work. I'm at the point where I'd like to sell the collections. In my opinion, they belong in the US - the home of their creations. >> I have been advised (by John and James of Retromacast) that the collection is worth millions, though my estimate is $990,000. >> Might you know other Mac curators who at least would like to talk? I would not like to have this historic collection broken up. >> All your ideas and info are appreciated. When you return from your collecting trip, or whenever you have time, I'd like to chat. > Steve Abbott eMail: macabb at carolina.rr.com Site: www.macabb.com Mail: 6500 Deermont Ct, Charlotte, NC 28211

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cctalk Digest, Vol 101, Issue 57

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 12:14 PM 1/19/2012, Shoppa, Tim wrote: >In the auto junkyard world there's the concept of "salvage title" for motor vehicles and the whole process is nicely codified by the state. >In the military surplus world there's the concept of "de-milling" surplus but I'd be surprised if that applied to a pile of Macs. Any computer recycler of any significant size has procedures to reassure commercial clients that their hard drives will be wiped in a bonded fashion in order to comply with their industry requirements for data privacy. In my experience, perhaps a third of today's PC consumers ask about what'll happen to their hard drive when they give me an old computer for recycling. They just want to be assured I'll erase their drive. Maybe one consumer in a hundred asks to keep their hard drive so they can destroy it themselves, and I'd say most of them don't know how to do it. - John

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RDB/VMS for Vax

by oe5ewl＠gmail.com

Hi, as being a bit sick at the moment and at home from work I'm playing around with my SIMH-Vax. After a few days of work and re-learning old skills it now runs smoothly on my home network. TCP/IP is up, also all major Programming Languages and that stuff. It's no performance-beast but I enjoy to use it. Now I'd like to re-use some of my older sources that rely on RDB. I believe it is open for hobbyist use - license-wise. Just looked around at the Oracle Site but found nothing for VAX. Does anyone have an idea how to get RDB for VAX? Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL Operating System Collector Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com Homepage: www.eichberger.org

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Sun 1 optical mouse

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

I have a few early Sun mice. These all have 3 buttons and a black case. The logo on the front is the usual Sun diamond but is more of a blue colour rather than the later purple. One of the mice (part number 530-0307 Rev A) has the earlier orange Sun logo on the back, and is fitted with the DA15 style connector (15 pin). The other mice although looking similar, have RJ style connectors. They are also stamped on the back with 'Sun 2'. Does anyone know if Sun's ever supported 3MBit ethernet?

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cctalk Digest, Vol 101, Issue 57

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> It's just like a junkyard. They buy wrecked/broken cars and sell them for parts or scrap metal. In the auto junkyard world there's the concept of "salvage title" for motor vehicles and the whole process is nicely codified by the state. In the military surplus world there's the concept of "de-milling" surplus but I'd be surprised if that applied to a pile of Macs. Tim.

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Old dgital videos

by classiccmp＠earthlink.net

I have two video cassette tapes from "digital media services" (DEC). Both are Copyright 1976. One is: Introduction to Minicomputers Instruction Sets EY-A0083-VT-001 The other is: Introduction to Minicomputers I/O Techniques EY-A0090-VT-001 These are obviously part of a series "Introduction to Minicomputers." Does anyone have any of the other tapes? Are they archived somewhere? Should they be archived somewhere? Are they a part of a larger set of educational materials for a course?

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OCR software for numeric (binary) data

by iamcamiel＠gmail.com

Hi Everyone, I have a bunch of PDF files that contain the microcode listings for an IBM 7201-02 CE (enhanced system/360 model 65), like this one: http://ibm360-console.wikispaces.com/file/view/QZ001.pdf. I need their contents for the emulator that drives my '65 control panel. Unfortunately, the OCR software I have tries to recognize English words, and makes gibberish out of them. I'm only interested in the 1's and 0's, so it would be wonderful if there was OCR software that you can tell only to look for 0's and 1's (or have some bias towards recognizing characters as a 1 or 0. Is anyone here aware of such software, or can anyone recommend a program that might do a good job with these? I've been copying sections by hand, but that gets very tedious when there's 2,816 lines of data, each having 100 0's and 1's... Cheers, Camiel

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Beehive B100 manual

by legalize＠xmission.com

The cover picture from the manual was erroneously omitted from the scan. PDF updated. This manual is clearly a photocopy of an original, but until an original shows up for me to scan, this is better than nothing. <http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/legalize/beehive/B100_Operators_Manua l.pdf> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Beehive B100 manual

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/legalize/beehive/B100_Operators_Manu…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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VAX-11/751 available

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

I have a VAX-11/751 that could be available, if someone dangles a nice enough carrot in front of me. The '751 is the oddball rackmount version of the VAX-11/750. It is currently in an Applicon cabinet, which is going away pretty quickly. The rest of the Applicon CAD system is long gone - I never had it. I have not tested the VAX, but it looks to be in very nice condition. Tempt me with mainframe stuff, or older minicomputer stuff. Or tempt me other ways. When is the last time you saw a '751, VAX collectors? -- Will, in 10512

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Mac Museum

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

>>>>> the collection is worth millions, though my estimate is $990,000. There is an episode of Taxi where Jim burns down Louie's (Danny DeVito's) apartment and Louie, knowing that Jim's dad is super rich, tries to decide on the exact right amount to ask for in monetary compensation, not too little, not too much, getting close to nice round numbers, but avoiding nice round numbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcsxzXAUeA

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UCSD p-System as seen by NSA in 1985

by dan＠decodesystems.com

The U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) recently declassified a number of articles from their _Cryptologic Quarterly_ publication, including a six-page review from 1985 of the UCSD p-System. The report is available in PDF at http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_quarterly/The_UCSD_p_Syst… Cheers, Dan dan at decodesystems.com www.decodesystems.com

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PDP-11 Values from MFPT

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> I assume that it would be extremely difficult, probably not worth the > effort, to modify the high order byte of the MFPT instruction at this > point for the 3rd party PDP-11 CPU boards, such as from Mentec. > Can anyone comment on this assumption? Might there be another > way for hardware to the tell a user which 3rd party board is being > used as a PDP-11? Late versions of 11M+ use some fine details (timing?) to differentiate between a J11, and the Mentec M1 and M100 (not J11 based). Most of the 3rd party boards (including much of the Mentec stuff) are "just J11's" maybe sped up/speed selected. Tim.

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PS/2 Keyboard adapter for TRS-80?

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:56:28 -0200 From: "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> > I don't have a Mod IV. But if I build something here in Brazil, will you > be able to duplicate it there? As long as the instructions aren't in Portuguese ;-) You might also talk to Jim Brain; he had/has/will have a PS/2 > matrix kbd adapter for CBM machines and I assume that it would just be a matter of revising the matrix layout for a Mod IV. http://store.go4retro.com/c-key-keyboard-adapter/ I gather that although the old version is still available he's more or less abandoned it and is working on a more flexible USB version now. Someone else is also working on a cheap and simple version for a PET, but there's always room for one more, especially if it actually appears ;-) ************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Hartman" <alhartman at yahoo.com> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:11 PM Subject: PS/2 Keyboard adapter for TRS-80? > Does anyone on the list know if there is an adapter for TRS-80s (Model > I/III/IV) to use PS/2 Keyboards? > > Cloud-9 makes one for the Color Computer, but the keyboard matrix between > the two families are slightly different. > > My friend has a Model IV with a bad keyboard (the thin film ribbon is > damaged) and replacement keyboards don't come up on eBay all that often. > > Thanks! > > Al Hartman

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Call for papers Computing Frontier 2012

by computing.comp＠study.beds.ac.uk

### Apologies for cross-posting / multiple copies ### Call for Paper ACM conference Computing Frontier 2012 I am Glad to invite you to participate in the upcoming conference, IEEE computing Frontier 2012 The 9th ACM International Conference on Computing Frontiers May 15-17, 2012, Cagliari, Italy Sponsored by ACM SIGMICRO http://www.computingfrontiers.org The increasing complexity, performance, cost and energy efficiency needs of current and future applications require novel and innovative approaches for the design of computing systems. Boundaries between state of the art and revolutionary innovation constitute the computing frontiers that must be pushed forward to provide the support required for the advancement of science, engineering and information technology. The Computing Frontiers conference focuses on a wide spectrum of advanced technologies and radically new solutions relevant to the development of the whole spectrum of computer systems, from embedded to high-performance computing. Authors are invited to submit full papers to the main conference and Ph.D. students are invited to submit an extended abstract for a special Ph.D. forum and poster session We seek contributions on novel computing paradigms, computational models, application paradigms, computer architecture, development environments, compilers, or operating environments. Papers are solicited in, but not limited to, the following areas: ? Applications, programming and performance analysis of advanced architectures ? Next-generation high performance computing and systems ? Accelerators: many-core, GPU, custom, reconfigurable, embedded, and hybrid ? Defect- and variability-tolerant designs, dependable computing ? Power and energy efficiency: architectures, compilers and algorithms ? Virtualization and virtual machines ? Cloud-, internet-scale, service-oriented and smart infrastructure computing ? Compilers and operating systems: adaptive, run-time, and auto-tuning ? System management and security ? Impact of novel technology (e.g. NV memory, silicon photonics) on computing ? Computational neuroscience, neuromorphic and biologically-inspired architectures ? Computational aspects of intelligent systems and robotics ? Reconfigurable, autonomic, organic, and self-organizing computation and systems ? Interfaces and visualization for emerging applications and systems ? Novel frontiers in computational science and scientific data repositories ? Storing, managing, analysing, and searching large data sets (" big data ") ? Sensors and sensor networks. EXTENDED DEADLINES Paper Submission Deadline January 25, 2012 Ph.D. Forum Deadline January 25, 2012 Author Notification March 7, 2012 Best wishes, Kathiravan.T

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Who got the VT62?

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-01-17 07.58, Eric Smith<eric at brouhaha.com> wrote: > Jonathan Katz wrote: > > So there isn't an RS-232 or similar off the back and you can't just > jack it into your Linux box? > > I think it uses some kind of multidrop signalling rather than EIA-232. > > Even if it uses EIA-232, it's still not going to be much use on a Linux > box, unless you write Linux software that knows how to talk to it. It > is a block-mode terminal, not character mode. It doesn't send one byte > over a serial port every time you hit a key, and it doesn't display a > character each time a byte comes in. Trying to use it on a serial line > with a getty process would be an exercise in futility. No. The VT62 use a normal RS-232 serial asynch line, sending and receiving bytes just like any other plain terminal. It really is just an improved VT52, adding a reverse video attribute. I had one, which I used for about 15 years. It's still around, but I more or less donated it to a computer club. If you want to hook it up to your Unix system, just go ahead. No problems. However, unless you create a termcap entry, you'll probably be stuck with the VT52 entry, which means you won't see any reverse video stuff anywhere, since I don't think any termcap/terminfo databases I've seen ever had the VT62. Johnny

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Who got the VT62?

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.ebay.com/itm/260930541697> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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ebay spotting ba11-m drawings

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

duno if anyone cares but theres a set of engineering drawings for the ba11-m http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-Digital-Equipment-BA11-M-Original-Manual-Circ-1… also keep an eye on him hes says hes got more stuff of the sort to list

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