AT&T
CRT 313-B which actually went to an old 286 computer
53D410 YAA, with a base of some sort
Unix PC 8646 with attached monitor
That's all I see right now for AT&T.
These terminals were used on 3B2 machines sometimes, and I have 2 legal-size
paper boxes full of documentation and binders, some never opened. I do not
have any more of the 3B2 machines though.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Huntsman [mailto:BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:09 PM
To: sales at elecplus.com
Subject: RE: A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory
Hi there!
Sorry to bother you, as I see you're being bombarded... but since you
mentioned AT&T terminals, by any chance do you have any 5620, 630, or 730
DMD terminals?
Many thanks!
-Ben
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on
behalf of Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus [sales at elecplus.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:56 AM
To: 'Richard'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory
Terminals include, but are not limited to:
IBM Display Write systems
Other IBM terminals
Sun
ITT
TI
Harris Lanier
Wang
Tandem
Esprit
Tektronix
Motorola (these are new, never used)
Sperry/Unisys
HP
Honeywell
AT&T
DEC
Wyse
Farrington
Matching kbds might be available.
I do have several 10 pound kbds that went to the original DEC VT100
terminals. A few are missing one or more keycaps.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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From: Richard [mailto:legalize at xmission.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:50 PM
To: Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus
Subject: Re: A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory
[off-list reply]
In article <00a401cdbc58$12e25860$38a70920$@com>,
"Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> writes:
> LOTS of dumb terminals, some kbds.
Hi Cindy,
Any chance you could name a few make/models on the terminals?
Nothing exhaustive, just a representative sample would be nice.
Thanks!
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Terminals include, but are not limited to:
IBM Display Write systems
Other IBM terminals
Sun
ITT
TI
Harris Lanier
Wang
Tandem
Esprit
Tektronix
Motorola (these are new, never used)
Sperry/Unisys
HP
Honeywell
AT&T
DEC
Wyse
Farrington
Matching kbds might be available.
I do have several 10 pound kbds that went to the original DEC VT100
terminals. A few are missing one or more keycaps.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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From: Richard [mailto:legalize at xmission.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:50 PM
To: Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus
Subject: Re: A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory
[off-list reply]
In article <00a401cdbc58$12e25860$38a70920$@com>,
"Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> writes:
> LOTS of dumb terminals, some kbds.
Hi Cindy,
Any chance you could name a few make/models on the terminals?
Nothing exhaustive, just a representative sample would be nice.
Thanks!
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... which is in great shape, except for a missing keycap (for the "J" key). Does anybody here have any spares that they'd be willing to part with?
#|| Raymond #||
All,
Cindy also looked at the pictures, and responds:
At 10:06 -0600 11/7/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>Excellent, thank you! Almost all of this is
>still here. As a note, the pile of power
>supplies has been tested and sorted, and is no
>longer a pile J These pics barely scratch the
>surface?
>
>Cindy Croxton
>Electronics Plus
>1613 Water Street
>Kerrville, TX 78028
>(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
>AOL IM elcpls
I will concur that the pictures show only
a small fraction of what is there; I only took
pictures of things that interested me, and
therefore skipped the great majority of the
warehouse.
Feel free to cross-post to other lists if
you are on them and you think their members would
be interested; the objective is to move this
collection away from scrappers and toward
collectors wherever possible.
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At 16:40 -0600 11/6/12, Sam wrote:
>Sounds like a fun day for localish collectors to get together. So she's
>getting out all together? Do you recall how things are priced or does she
>have a price list on some of the vintage gear? I see they have a
>complete/working 5150 but $650 for the website price tag is pretty high.
I did not discuss pricing with her. I think she's getting out
altogether, to focus on family.
>Either way, I'd probably be up for a trip if the spousal unit approves. Hm
>crap.. I'll technically be on call that weekend but I can probably still
>swing it.
Other weekends are workable, but I think the end of the year is the deadline.
>Is there an offline coordination effort or we can keep it on the
>list if it's topical for folks who might want to go.
I vote on-list, but non-local list members may vote otherwise;
comments welcome either way.
>If you or she has some pictures of the vintage stuff I'd love to see what's
>there just to gauge things a bit. Not sure what I'd be searching for out
>there, I love Commodore/Amiga but also like other one off home computers
>(generally my collection focuses on the home computer market).
I have a set of pictures from 2001. I'll try to find a place to post
those and report back here when done, but be aware they are more than
a decade obsolete.
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The System 370 was an error. What they actually are is 5 legal-size paper
boxes of 8" floppies that were used by a company for backup on a System 36.
There are also "magazines" that hold 10 of these disks each. There does not
appear to be any original system software, just used disks, which are prob
of interest to someone who needs 8" floppies.
You are welcome to post anything anywhere you want, since I want these
things to go to a good home, instead of the scrap pile.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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From: Mark Tapley [mailto:mtapley at swri.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:00 AM
To: sales at elecplus.com; Kevin at RawFedDogs.net
Subject:
Kevin,
it's fine by me, my only stake is I hope the stuff all finds new
homes.
I assume it's OK with Cindy, but she should answer for herself.
At 16:40 -0600 11/6/12, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:12:24 -0600
>From: Kevin Monceaux <Kevin at RawFedDogs.net>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
>Message-ID: <20121106211223.GA2892 at RawFedDogs.net>
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>
>Mark,
>
>On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
>
>> That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the proprietor, is selling
>> off the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
>>
>> At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>> >
>> >Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old
IBM.
>
>Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
>The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
>
>
>--
>
>Kevin
>http://www.RawFedDogs.net
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>http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
>Bruceville, TX
>
>What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
>Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
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On 11/06/2012 10:53 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> it got me wondering... what CP/M software is out
> there (except maybe a RAM disk) that can *use* 1MB?
There were various packages specific to the Amstrad PCW that could make
use of the up to 2Mb it could take. There were task switchers like Network
(which allowed switching between multiple CP/M programs) and Flipper (which
allowed switching between multiple operating systems). The DTP package
MicroDesign used the memory to store the page it was working on. Then
there's my contributon: ZXZVM runs an Infocom Z-Code game, using the extra
memory to store the game file and the up to 64k of RAM that the virtual
machine requires.
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The TI 1500 series UNIX machines that Isnagged off eBay a couple weeks
back finally arrived on my doorstep this morning. Floating in a sea of
packing peanuts in very battered boxes. *sigh*. I feared the worst but
they appear to have made it more or less in one piece. Only casualty
was one of the front plates (plastic) which looks like it'll be fine
after some supergluing. These things are built like tanks.
As the eBay listing specified, there are no hard drives. The pictures
on the auction made it look like there was a drive included in one of
the machines, but this was apparently removed before shipping. I was
kind of hoping there'd be a drive but oh well. At least it's got a
standard SCSI interface. Now to find some actual software for this
thing, I'm sure that'll be easy ;).
Other than that, the machines are completeand seem to be functioning
properly (see the end of this mail for some diagnostic output porn, if
you're into that sort of thing.)
The larger of the two (it's just slightly taller than the other) has no
model designation on the front (the shorter says "TI 1500 Computer", but
both of them are labeled as S1505s on the rear, with S1507 processors
and differing options installed. The taller POSTs as a 1507, the shorter
as a 1505. Dates on EPROMs are from the early 90s. (91 and 92).
The taller (1507) has a 68040 CPU (25Mhz), 64mb of RAM (30-pin 4mb
simms, parity), a Communications co-processor, ethernet, and a couple of
other communications adapters(a "Multidrop\V.35 and some misc "Comm
Carrier" boards). Looks like the 68040 is an upgrade of sorts (looks to
be official) -- the two machines have the same motherboard, but the
68040 is on a daughterboard that plugs into the 68030 socket.
The shorter (1505) has a 68030 (25Mhz) with 68882and only8mb of RAM
(30-pin 1mb simms, parity). Aside from a"Comm Carrier" board it also has
an 8-channel async serial boardwith 8 MMJ connectors on the rear.
Near the bottom on the rear there is a pair of ports (DB-25 and MMJ)
labeled "DIAG PORT." I connected a standard DEC MMJ to it and at 9600N7
I get diagnostic output(see below).
Other interesting things of note: There are a lot of 68K-series
processors in these machines. Aside fromthe main 68040 CPU, there are
two 68000 CPUs on the motherboard, one for COMM I/O, the other for SCSI
(they're neatly labeled). The Communications coprocessor board contains
an additional 68010.
Diags indicate that the boards are Nubus, though they don't use the
standard connector I'm familiar with. Looks more like PCI/microchannel.
That's all for now. I've taken some pictures which I'll post later. If
anyone wants more details, let me know. And if anyone knows where to
find OS tapes for thisthing, I'm all ears.
Thanks,
Josh
Diag output follows:
-------------------
RESET
Executing S1507 68040 F/W Rev *F in Slot C with 64MB memory
Selftest BEGINS
Test 00 RAM passed
Test 01 PARITY passed
Test 02 ICC passed
Test 03 CACHE passed
Test 04 MAD passed
Test 05 TIMER passed
Test 06 NVRAM passed
Test 07 SPA passed
Test 08 C-ROM passed
Selftest COMPLETE
Slot C CPU TESTING SYSTEM:
Slot 0 CPO passed
Slot 8 CPO passed
Slot 9 SPC passed
Slot C CPU passed
Global ARB passed
D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :
Waiting
Errors in unit
D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :M
Available load devices
No online device
D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :E
Slot C CPU TESTING SYSTEM:
Slot 0 CPO (TIAU 00002561095-0001 *P)
COMM CARRIER & OPTION BOARD TEST
NuBus Slave Cycle Memory Test passed
NuBus Master Logic Test passed
ROM CRC passed
ICC test passed
COSI registers test passed
RAM pattern test passed
RAM bit test passed
RAM address test passed
COSI timer test passed
LAN ID ROM CRC test passed
COSI DMA test passed
Bus exception test passed
PORT 0
OPTION : 3 channel MULTIFUNCTION
ADAPTOR : 3 channel MULTIFUNCTION
Read/Write register test passed
Counter/timer test passed
Adaptor board test passed
ASYNC loopback test passed
BOP loopback test passed
DMA loopback test passed
DMA BOP linked array test passed
PAL state machine passed
NRZI BOP loopback test passed
High Speed BOP loopback test passed
BISYNC loopback test passed
PORT 1
OPTION : EMPTY
ADAPTOR : EMPTY
COMM section ARBITRATION test passed
passed
Slot 8 CPO (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L)
COMM CARRIER & OPTION BOARD TEST
NuBus Slave Cycle Memory Test passed
NuBus Master Logic Test passed
ROM CRC passed
ICC test passed
COSI registers test passed
RAM pattern test passed
RAM bit test passed
RAM address test passed
COSI timer test passed
LAN ID ROM CRC test passed
COSI DMA test passed
Bus exception test passed
PORT 0
OPTION : MULTIDROP\V.35
ADAPTOR : MULTIDROP with printer
Read write devices test passed
PI/T 68230 test passed
MC68440 DMA test passed
MC68606 DMA test passed
Transmit and receive frames test passed
PORT 1
OPTION : LAN 802.3
ADAPTOR : 802.3 ETHERNET
Timer test passed
Internal loopback test passed
Adaptor internal loopback test passed
Multicast test passed
CRC test passed
Off board test skipped
COMM section ARBITRATION test passed
passed
Slot 9 SPC (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L) passed
Slot C CPU (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L)
Selftest BEGINS
Test 00 RAM passed
Test 01 PARITY passed
Test 02 ICC passed
Test 03 CACHE passed
Test 04 MAD passed
Test 05 TIMER passed
Test 06 NVRAM passed
Test 07 SPA passed
Test 08 C-ROM passed
Selftest COMPLETE
passed
Global ARB passed
D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :
Bunnie has a monthly competition to identify various bits of
electronics. The September competition went unsolved.
It looks retro, anybody here know what it is?
http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2554
/P
>All,
> A decade or so back I visited a warehouse in Kerrville with a
>*lot* of classic computer gear. That warehouse is now closing, and
>Cindy, the proprietor, is selling off the collection. Her description
>of what is there includes:
>
>At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>>I would like to arrange that on Saturday a group of interested people could
>>come up and go through all the antique stuff. There is Kaypro, HP, Apple,
>>Commodore, Radio Shack, DEC Rainbow, etc. I will have space available that
>>everyone can plug in what they want to, and test it before they leave with
>>it. I have a limited amt of software that can be used on each type of
>>machine.
>>
>>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
>
>
I enquired by email about the System 370 software and documentation.
I was told first that some of the boxes actually said "System 36" on them.
I was then told that The "software" seems to consist of large qty of 8" floppy
disks that someone used for backups and that there are also "magazines" that
hold maybe 10 of the 8" diskettes each and that there does not seem to be any
original operating software or programs.
I was also told that there are 2 boxes, abt 20 pounds, that contains full
operating manuals and possibly the software for AT&T 3B2 system.
It doesn't sound likely to me that there is any 370 material there.
(I'm not complaining, I'm just passing on what I was told for the information
of others who might be interested.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
The IBM System 370 software is an error. There are a hundred or more 8"
floppy diskettes, some in "magazines" that were used as backups on a System
36. Occupies about 5 legal-size paper boxes. There does not appear to be
any original software.
AT&T 3B2 software and documentation, 2 legal size paper boxes, much of the
documentation is still sealed. Sorry, I do not have any more of the 3B2
machines.
Large qty of 360K and 1.2MB floppy drives, and 360kb new blank diskettes in
10-packs.
TI 99/4A, 1 still in original box, several out of box, extra AC adapters,
small amt of software.
Commodore 64, 1 still in box, several out of box, couple of disk drives,
etc. Bring software to test.
LOTS of color and mono 9-pin monitors, a few still new in box.
LOTS of dumb terminals, some kbds.
A few Atari game systems, extra AC adapters, etc. Bring games to test.
ISA and PCI cards, thousands of them, plus "newer" AGP video cards.
Several boxes of CPU chips, from 80386 and 80387 thru P4.
Motherboards, new and used, from 386 to Quad core P4.
Thousands of cables, etc.
Over 10,000 square feet to look through, I look forward to seeing you!
Email inquiries welcome.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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I'm nowhere in the area, but would it be possible for me to put down
my interest in the following?
* A spare BA-23 or BA-123 enclosure
* Any micro-form factor VAX, if one should turn up
CC folks, I just received this note from a Rufus Crosby whose
recently passed brother in law has a ton of PDP-11 stuff in the West
LA area, I am passing this on to you, feel free to contact Rufus at:
RufusRufus at aol.com
From: RufusRufus at aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 03:01:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: DigiBarn Computer Museum: Comment submission form.
To: bdamer at digitalspace.com
panded to false
Hi Bruce,
My brother in law's estate has a lot of PTP11 stuff, hardware stuff,
manuals and literature. That stuff began to become obsolete and he
could get it for almost nothing at the swap meets and he would come
back with car loads of it. I am not a computer guy, I know nothing, I
mean zero, about the products of the Digital Equipment Corporation
but I would hate to see stuff going to landfill that somebody would
really want or treasure. It would require somebody to inspect all the
stuff to find if there was anything of interest in it. None of us
have any idea of what he had or where it is. It is a real pig in the
poke. Still, if somebody has real interest, have them get in contact
with me and maybe we can come up with some plan. I am sorry, but I
just don't have an inventory of what he has. Nor has anybody else.
Rufus Crosby
I have an AT&T 3B2/500 that needs a new home. I've had it since it was pulled from service
about 13 years ago. It's in great cosmetic shape and would make a great addition
to the right person's collection. I don't know how much memory it has or the size of the hard drive,
and I haven't personally fired it up.
If interested, please drop me a note, otherwise it's going to get recycled.
I live in the Portland, Oregon area and would prefer to have someone pick it
up and I'm not really interested in shipping it.
Thanks,
Corey.
I've just ordered the new Apple II book and I'd like to find a machine I can use with it. I know I can just use an emulator but it would be more fun to have actual hardware. Does anyone have an Apple IIc in good condition that they're interested in selling?
Hi Alexandre!
I did not had a NE-Z80 but an early model TK-82C.
It had a SLOW function at the keyboard but it lacks the circuitry to proper respond to it.I can say it used a copy of the ZX-81 EPROM.
When later I built a SLOW pig board circuit it worked as expected on original ZX-81.
The TK-82C and NE-Z80 circuit was identical to ZX-80. And behave like the ZX-80 if you adapt it's EPROM to those.
What Microdigital (TK-82) and Prologica (NE-Z80) did on those time was use standard parts. Copying the ZX-80 circuit to avoid the custom chip used in ZX-81.
So , Yes, you can use the ZX-81 ROM image in a NE-Z80 as it had the same and exactly content.
The ZX clones started to differ from the original when they started producing TK-85, CP-200 and others. Some licensed by Sinclair, I Believe.
Ricardo
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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 04:31:47 -0200
From: "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Subject: Paging NE-Z80 owners! Paging NE-Z80 owners!
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? ? Who knows? :o)
? ? Anyone on this list has the "Nova Eletronica NE-Z80" computer from
Brazil?
? ? I'm finishing restoring a pair, but none of them has the original EPROM
with the firmware. I've never seen one of these in person before (it is a
RARE computer in Brazil) and although it is a "mostly perfect" clone of the
ZX-80, the keyboard is a bit different - it is exactely the keyboard of the
ZX-81 but without the "slow" function. Is it the ZX-81 ROM, or a modified
one?
? ? Thanks
? ? Alexandre Souza
Send me your FTP data and I can upload it there.
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To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Brazilian electronic magazines. Was: RepRapping.
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas
> <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe someone is curious :o) This was teh BEST electronics magazine we
>> had in Brazil, worth take a look, even if only the photos :o)
>> http://www.4shared.com/folder/7kImt0o9/Revista_Nova_Eletronica.html
>
> I'd like to keep a local archive of these PDFs but the hosting site
> wants paid registration for a zippped download of all 100-some files.
> Has anyone grabbed them all already that would be willing to dump them
> on my FTP?
>
> -j
Hi Scott,
I have often used IRIX 6.5 clients on Linux/nvidia X11 servers (and
probably the other way round).
One special thing is accelerated 3D with OpenGL vs. IrisGL: Newer SGI
applications (=clients) use OpenGL, these have worked without a problem.
But older SGI applications use IrisGL, the predecessor of OpenGL. When I
tried it last a few years ago, these would only say: "server does not
support IrisGL" or the like.
There's another issue related to nfs networking between Irix and Linux
(needs -o proto=tcp or proto=udp or similar, I always forget it and have
to look it up...). Without the option, only minimal transfers will work,
whereas even a longer directory listing or - certainly - a file transfer
beyond a few KB would cause the connection to stall. But I have no
indication that anything similar would apply to X11 as well.
Kind regards, Joerg
On 11/04/12 19:00, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
>>>> I figured that as well, and I haven't had any problems with Solaris, HP-UX,
>>>> AIX, etc. doing remote displays
>>>> to a different "brand" X-server, nor have I had any problems with IRIX ->
>>>> IRIX, but mix up IRIX
>>>> and others and I have had trouble.
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Has anyone dumped the firmware from the TS-801/802/803/806 ?
Images for TS-806 Turbodos is up now on http://bitsavers.org/bits/Televideo now, but
I couldn't locate any firmware dumps for the machines.
I dont know about spot welders, but a resistance soldering unit can be made from a 12vdc transformer and carbon or graphite rods, cant remember, but older c and d cells used to use them. I have an old magazine article on how to do it.
Richard writes:
> Scott Quinn <saquinn624 at aol.com> writes:
>
>> I figured that as well, and I haven't had any problems with Solaris, HP-UX,
>> AIX, etc. doing remote displays
>> to a different "brand" X-server, nor have I had any problems with IRIX ->
>> IRIX, but mix up IRIX
>> and others and I have had trouble.
>
>What clients are you running?
>
>Can you reproduce it by running something really simply like xdpyinfo
>or xeyes?
>--
Pretty much basic IRIX stuff - fm, nedit, winterm. I fire up the X server with "X --query {host}"
I have a Fuji PEX391-30 850W PSU that works with the Sun-4/260, 280, 360, 380 that has been offered
several times and no one seems to want. Given the warnings of "capable of welding" on higher-output PSUs,
has anyone actually converted one to be a spot welder? I don't think it will do arc.
I know Im in for it asking such a question, but are there any realistic benefits to film these days considering the expense? Personally the best film camera Ive ever used was a Polaroid.
Greetings,
I love the dual RL02 drives on my PDP-11/23+. It's great fun to hear them
spin up, and they are a neat conversation piece. However, I fear that
ongoing operation will eventually lead to their demise (as with all
things). I'd like to move to a (slightly) newer technology.
My goal is to:
1. Purchase a Seagate ST-225 or ST-251 hard drive in working condition.
2. Build a cable and interface assembly as described at
http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/rqdx3.htm, and put the drive in an
external case/PSU.
3. Properly insert my RQDX3 (in my stock, but not in the machine) into the
PDP, and connect to the drive.
4. Use the ZRQCH0 utility in XXDP (perhaps loaded from a TU58 emulator) to
format the drive as a RD31 or RD32 (depending on the Seagate model).
5. Determine how to boot from RT-11, and perhaps TSX-Plus.
Is this doable? Will the KDF11-BA built-in bootstrapper ROM boot from a
RQDX3? Also, my RQDX3 card is assumed working, but untested. Is there any
way to test the controller board functionality without having a drive
attached?
Thanks for any thoughts!
- Earl
What non-IRIX X-servers have people been able to get to work with IRIX? I'm not talking about the DGL problems
(where older IRIS-GL programs don't work right with non-IRIX X-servers excluding the IRISVISION because of the
absence of Distributed GL), but I'm getting artifacts (Mac OS X 10.4 X11 [incomplete menus], Solaris 10 [boxes]) or,
more annoyingly, random X resets (Linux and other X.org derived stuff). This is recent IRIX on the client (6.5.22 and .30).
Id take the non worker if he doesnt want it.
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:31 PM PDT Roger Pugh wrote:
>On 02/11/2012 00:14, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
>>
>> Thanks a lot, Liam! Someone here on the list promised a zx80 and 81 for free, but I'm waiting for him to find it on his attic :o)
>
>
>Alexandre, i havnt forgot that i said i can send you a spectrum... Now I have finally got to my old spectrums at the back of the garage , i have found a suitable 48K+ , just have to make sure it is in working condition as dont want to waste our time on a non worker..
>
>Roger
I have a RS/6000 B50 (rackmount version of the 43p/150). I know it takes PC100 168-pin ECC Registered DIMMS,
as I have one 128MB stick in there now from the parts bin, but that's my only one. I'm trying to get some more memory
to make it useful, but local suppliers only have 512 and 1GB sticks, and per IBM 4x256 is the maximum supported memory.
Does anyone either have 256MB DIMMS to sell or know if the machine will use larger capacity DIMMS?
For free, Multia VX42 (233MHz 0/0) and SPARCstation-2 and IPC 64/0. Pick up in Renton, WA or near environs.
The Multia is in cosmetically good shape but the battery died with the OVMS firmware in place - for those
unfamiliar with this machine that means to make it work you'll have to replace the battery and do a failsafe load.
Also have the Performa version of the Power Macintosh 6100/60 and a IIci. IIci is loaded with memory
I found a cache of NOS RL01/2 absolute filters (equivalent to DEC p/n 1213097)
at the Filter Factory in Santa Ynez, California (www.thefilterfactory.com),
phone 805.733.2180. They have 47 in stock. Price is $28.60 each, shipping for a
single filter to 60091 (Illinois, USA) was $8.27. I ordered one to verify
dimensions and
construction - perfect match for the original part. The filters were
manufactured by HEPA Corporation (still in business) but minimum order quantity
>from HEPA is 100 units. Filter Factory will _not_ be ordering after the current
stock is gone.
Get'em while you can!
Jack
I have a Wyse WY-150 that I use as a console for several machines, and it has an odd and irritating behavior on some machines.
For SGIs and DECs the text gets messed up. O300 will get garbled, but my suspicion there is that the terminal doesn't really handle 38,400bps right.
On all SGIs and DECs there are spacing issues, though - Example: in SGI startup diags and PROM whether I'm in 80 or 132-column mode there will be
one letter on the far right and then it wraps around. I'm in VT220 mode, and it does it in both 7-bit and 8-bit. I didn't notice this on my old Altos III-branded
Wyse. Anyone fixed this?
I was recently motivated to write a few tools to convert Terak
fonts and images to contemporary formats.
I've added more than a dozen original Terak bitmap images,
an animation, plus 26 Terak bitmap fonts converted to Windows.
<http://www.threedee.com/jcm/terak/>http://www.threedee.com/jcm/terak/
- John
I have a bunch of old SCSI cables, free for pickup from London or I can
post for cost of postage.
5x HD50 male - CN 50 male, around 1m length
1x HD68 male - CN 50 male, ~1m
1x HD50 male - HD 50 male, ~1m
1x DD68 male - DD 68 male, ~50cm
Cheers,
Pete.
a few pcs or pseudo pcs did load there Bios from disk.
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:45 AM PDT allison wrote:
>You need the 801 boot image.
>
>Reason is the HDD drive is embedded in the bios which is part of the
>initial load image.
>
>CP/M did the BIOS or hardware abstraction from the base OS but the BIOS
>on most CP/M
>was a loaded image and very specific to the system in use. In that
>respect it was very
>unlike PCs where the BIOS was in Eprom/rom
>
>
>Allison
>
>
>On 11/02/2012 10:52 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>> I recently acquired a Televideo TS-801. It's a typical Z80 CP/M system.
>> I've have it restored to where it is trying to boot. It "says" that it
>> is in the process of "IPLing" the system and the left drive is selected.
>>
>> I couldn't find any TS-801 boot images, but based on CC archives, I saw
>> that Televideo TS-802 floppy images will work as well.
>>
>> I downloaded TS-802(H) images from Dave Dunfield's site - but they
>> expect a HDD - and fail booting...
>>
>> Does someone have an CP/M boot image for the floppy based TS-801 or
>> TS-802? If so, I'd appreciate a copy off list or link to same on or off
>> list.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Lyle
>
I recently acquired a Televideo TS-801. It's a typical Z80 CP/M system.
I've have it restored to where it is trying to boot. It "says" that it
is in the process of "IPLing" the system and the left drive is selected.
I couldn't find any TS-801 boot images, but based on CC archives, I saw
that Televideo TS-802 floppy images will work as well.
I downloaded TS-802(H) images from Dave Dunfield's site - but they
expect a HDD - and fail booting...
Does someone have an CP/M boot image for the floppy based TS-801 or
TS-802? If so, I'd appreciate a copy off list or link to same on or off
list.
Thanks!
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
I have been contacted by a fellow with an FR-38D/U digital counter, I
gather he would like to let it go.
This is a tube-based digital electronic counter, identical to the
HP-524B, but I think the particular unit at issue was actually
manufactured by Northeastern Engineering. (I've never understood the
relationship, but AIUI Northeastern manufactured/second-sourced some
HP designs.)
Here is a photo of the unit:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/onegroovydude/
62E116DF-2C75-459F-ADE4-44FA2B79B712-285-00000017B3222DC6.jpg
For more info about the models, here are my web pages about the 524B
and HP-520 instruments:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/edte/HP524B/index.htmlhttp://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/edte/HP520/index.html
These things aren't computers of course, but they are some of the
last pieces of tube-based digital electronic instruments, i.e. the
same technology as the the 1st generation of electronic computers.
Marketing spiel: You're not likely to ever own a digital tube
computer, but you can own a digital tube counter.
I'm just helping to see it preserved, you can contact Travis below if
interested.
I get questions and expressions of interest in these instruments
every now-and-then due to my web pages, but I have no idea what sort
of dollar/market value to assign.
The location is Kansas City. They're over 100 lbs and you'd have to
be really enthused to have it shipped - so hopefully someone can pick
it up.
If someone obtains this unit, I can supply the schematic, at least
for the HP version. (I have a 524B and 524C that I have repaired.) If
someone does obtain it I'd be interested to hear about it.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Travis Joles <onegroovydude at gmail.com>
> Date: 2012 October 30 6:15:59 AM PDT (CA)
> To: "hilpert at cs.ubc.ca" <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca>
> Subject: HP 524B Military Version
>
> Hi. I have this unit in the military version FR-38D/U. I'll provide
> a pic. Do these have any value to collectors? Thank you.
> That said, if you're comfortable with what you're using, don't
> consider it broken. Different people use their tools in different ways.
> It's probably worth the time to try a Metcal to see if YOU notice a
> significant difference...if you don't, then upgrading is a waste of
> money, time, and effort becoming accustomed to a different tool.
Very wise words, I'd not expect anything less from you :o)
> how does one find anything on their website?
You don't. Call them or email them with the specific part number - their item
code is 100036 for DEC P/N 1213097.
Jack
>
> > On 11/01/2012 09:10 PM, Jack Rubin wrote:
> > > I found a cache of NOS RL01/2 absolute filters (equivalent to DEC p/n
> > 1213097)
> > > at the Filter Factory in Santa Ynez, California (
> > www.thefilterfactory.com),
> > > phone 805.733.2180. They have 47 in stock. Price is $28.60 each,
> > shipping for a
> > > single filter to 60091 (Illinois, USA) was $8.27. I ordered one to verify
> > > dimensions and construction - perfect match for the original part.
Not sure of location yet, trying to obtain that. Will repost when
location is available.
PDP-11/05
paper tape
RL01
2 disk packs
manuals & drawings
RT11 manuals
8 inch floppy drive and floppies
"bunch of cards"
pep-70 upgrade card set for 11/70
box of panel light bulbs
parts for core boards
cpu test card
Is anyone here a member of the Yahoo Northstar_Computer group? I need
a copy of Andrew Lynch's CWNS progam from the files section, and my
membership is still pending. Please contact me off-list.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
Im on that list, if the file is there Ill send it to you tomorrow afternoon. Which NS unit are you messing with? I had the distinct pleasure of movging my Dimension last night.
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 8:04 PM PDT Mike Loewen wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, barythrin at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Have you tried emailing him? He's pretty active on the vintage-computer.com forums. Of you can't find his contact info let me know and I can see if I have it somewhere too. Off list obviously.
>
> I did try contacting him directly. Perhaps he's affected by the storm.
>
>
>Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
>Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
On 30 October 2012 22:34, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, after looking a little of the previews Thursday can't get here soon
> enough! Okay, well truth be told that was already the case. :-) The book
> isn't even here and I'm starting to think about digging for Apple II gear!
I haven't even bought it (I spent all my amazon money buying my
daughter a book for University) and it has me thinking about hauling
out all that Apple gear. My wife would then remember that I have it,
and start trying to get me to get rid of it.
--
Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems: "The Future Begins Tomorrow"
Visit us at: http://www.yoyodyne-propulsion.net
--------
"I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all
the facts are in. "
General "Buck" Turgidson
On 11/01/2012 09:10 PM, Jack Rubin wrote: > I found a cache of NOS RL01/2
absolute filters (equivalent to DEC p/n 1213097) > at the Filter Factory in
Santa Ynez, California (www.thefilterfactory.com), > phone 805.733.2180. They
have 47 in stock. Price is $28.60 each, shipping for a > single filter to 60091
(Illinois, USA) was $8.27. I ordered one to verify > dimensions and > >
construction - perfect match for the original part. The filters were >
manufactured by HEPA Corporation (still in business) but minimum order quantity
> from HEPA is 100 units. Filter Factory will _not_ be ordering after the
current > stock is gone. > > Get'em while you can! So are you saying that
HEPA Corporation will make more, but they'll only do 100 at a time?
-Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
**************************************************
That's the way I understood it from the man at Filter Factory. If you want to
buy a truckload (and, knowing you,
I wouldn't be surprised if you did :>) ), you can reach HEPA at
HEPA Corporation
3071 E Coronado St
Anaheim CA 92806
(714)630-5700
Jack
Geneb wrote:
>
>Do the old license PAKs work on newer releases? I've got a few from the
>5.x era...
>
>g.
There's the license and then there's the PAK. The PAK will probably work (there are certain limits with capacity and VAX vs
Alpha vs I64), but the license may or may not have transferred from the P.O. and may or may not (probably not) be valid for a
newer version of VMS. DEC did not tie them to hardware as a matter of policy, and many/most PAKs don't have a version
encoded in them. The PAK was a means of encouraging compliance, not a futile attempt to force compliance, and so they
didn't trick it out to be as obnoxious as they could have.
You should probably get a new hobbyist license from the program (they're cheap), whether you choose to use your PAKs or the
hobbyist ones is up to you (but keep in mind that you still do need to renew your license every year for the hobbyist program).
I have a well-treated Macintosh SE/30 that I'd like to fix up.
Problem 1) Whenever the CPU is doing something or something is being read
or written, faint warbling screeches can be heard coming from inside. The
volume control does nothing to quell this noise.
Problem 2) The image on the monitor is canted a few degrees clockwise --
enough to be noticable and irritating.
Problem 3) I've figured out how to format a Mac floppy under Linux and
transfer files by floppy, but I'm unclear how I should get two needed
utilities: binhex and unstuff onto a Mac floppy without mangling the
resource and data forks.
Please help.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
mine is longer then any Ive seen on various sites. Probably older. Need docs and s/w, though what Ive downloaded may be appropriate. Anyone ever use their (discrete logic) version with 8 inch drives?