Has anyone dissected one of the blue Iomega 25-way cables that are marked
"AutoDetect" at the female connector end?
I've got one in the junk pile and on a meter it checks out as though it's
wired with a 1:1 pin mapping, but I assume the "AutoDetect" label means
that it has some kind of smarts embedded into one end or the other (or
both) which only work their magic under certain conditions.
I'm on the hunt for a DB25 male connector and bit of multi-way cable so I
can wire up a null modem cable for the QX-10 [1] - if it's all at the
female end then that's good because I'd be lopping that end off anyway...
[1] which has a DB25 female RS232 port, and of course the only
gender-changers I have here are DE9s, no DB25's... :-)
cheers
Jules
Hi folks,
I have some duplicates (seven binders) regarding DEC's red/gray wall documentation:
- MicroPower/Pascal-RT, Volume 2, Version 1 Language Guide: System User's Guide (red binder)
Six gray binders (VMS 5.0):
- System Management Volume 1B: Setup
- Programming Volume 6A: File System
- Programming Volume 3: System Routines
- System Management Volume 2: ?Maintenance
- Programming Volume 1: Introduction
- Programming Volume 4A: System Services
?
I give them away for free, you take care about shipping costs. Located in Germany.
Contact me offline, if someone wants them. No need to take them as a bunch.
Kind regards,
Pierre
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John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 01:55:49PM -0500, Toby Thain wrote:
> >Can you expand on why you hated them? Was that generic to glass ttys,
> >or just this model?
>
> For me it was the lack of selective clearing -- so doing even basic
> editing on an ADM3A (even just ^W to delete a word) over a 1200-baud modem
> connection meant lots and lots of ASCII blanks. Annoyingly slow...
> VT100s were *way* nicer, and even VT52s were a step up (at least they
> had ESC K, and the arrow keys could be easily distinguished from control
> chars, so ^H means one thing and left-arrow means another).
>
I had access to a bunch of VT100s, ADM5s and an occasional ADM3A. I also
didn't like the ADM3A because of its screen clearing difficulties. However, I
preferred using the ADM5s as I found them subjectively faster than the VT100s
(even after making sure smooth scroll was disabled). I never did any objective
testing but I put this down to the longer and more complex escape sequences
used by the VT100, especially when connecting to something that did a lot of
cursor positioning. As far as I recall, all would have been set to 4800 baud.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I have here an odd 7400 TTL chip - the prefix is TG. TG74S00J. Who was
this? Who made TG74xx TTL? It looks somewhat like an old Sylvania
ceramic DIP from the early 1970s. I have perhaps thought Transitron,
but it is not. And there is no logo, other than a plain looking T.
Ideas?
--
Will
More cleaning and lowered price on some stuff that didn't sell last time around.
As always, remind me that you are a list member and I'll add some freebies.
Thanks to all on the list whose purchased from me.
-tom
tcp1022
AT&T 6300 Personal Computer 251219453567
DEC Pro 350 251219291641
DEC VAX4000/300 251219438856
DEC alpha PWS 500au 251219352958
DEC VAX 4000/VLC 251219392926
HP 9885 floppy drives 251219443307
AT&T 6300 251219453567
DEC TU-58 251219297427
SMS RXO1/RX02 floppy dr 251219332374
PDP 11/04 251219325467
ADM3A 251219433952
On 2013-01-24 14:26, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> From: Fred Cisin<cisin at xenosoft.com>
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>> >It is normally better to top post when only one idea is going to put forth.
> Or if one is too lazy, or enough of an asshole, to not adequately
> delete the extraneous content.
Top posting makes a lot of sense for people who want to read the gist of
what is being said now, instead of having to scroll.
Personally, I do both. But I don't mind the flame bait for people who
won't or can't see both sides of the issue. A good point was made about
voice synthesizers and top posting in another post.
I tend to equate sending messages to back in the 30 baud days ... less
is better unless needed for clarification.
And never let it be said I won't fan the flames ... especially when I
have a few minutes to spare :).
Hi
I've started a new N8VEM mailing list to discuss the SASI or SCSI-1 to IDE
and SD bridge board project.
The purpose of the mailing list is to discuss the design, build, and test of
the N8VEM SASI or SCSI-1 to IDE and SD bridge board.
It is a completely free and open source development to benefit all vintage,
hobbyist, classic, and home brew computer enthusiasts.
http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem-s2i
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Just a quick update to let you guys know I finally got Kermit80 up
and running. Found MLOAD.COM and got it transferred over and used it
to link the kermit hex file and the Xerox 820 overlay. Played with it
a bit last night and hooked an old Hayes 14400 modem up to the comm
port and although I can set the command string(s) for the modem, it
doesn't hand control back to the terminal after it connects (was trying
to get it to connect to an old 80286 that has my TRI-BBS software on it)
I'll probably have to stick with transferring stuff back and forth with
Tera-term or something similar. There's kind of a grey area with Kermit
on just how much control it has over the machine's comm port (varies from
one machine to another), so maybe I'm trying to run data through it
faster than what the port will allow.
I need to get with Chuck Guzis at some point and get a license for 22disk,
just not right this minute, until I get this months bills caught up. :P
Thank you Chuck, and everyone else for your help.
Dave Land
Land Computer Service
You guys are going to get a good laugh out of this...
I got desperate and did a little measuring and eyeballing on the index
sensors on my 8" drive, and then took one of my prized DSDD Fujifilm
guaranteed 100% error-free disks, and carefully opened it up and even
more carefully slid the disk out onto a clean sheet of paper. I then
took a 1/4" drill bit and heated the back side till it was almost
red hot and shoved it through the jacket around where the other sensor
was located. Cleaned up the excess plastic with a razor blade and
smoothed everything up and carefully re-inserted the disk. Covered up
the other sensor hole and tried it out. Oops! Hole was about 3/16"
too low. Carefully slide the disk back out and notched the hole out a
bit. Re-assemble disk and tried it again. Ahaa! Drive now sees disc.
Formatted with 22disk using the XER5 SSDD setting and wrote 2 hex files
to it. Shut down PC, hooked everything back up, and miracle of miracles,
the Xerox actually read the files and let me copy them to the hard disk!!
Now all I need to do is get MLOAD.COM loaded on it so I can combine the
2 hex files (kermit & the Xerox overlay) and theoretically, it should
load and run. But it's been a very long day, and I just now found MLOAD
on my Walnut Creek CD, so something to do tomorrow.
So, the theory is correct, the 2 sensors DO designate between single &
double sided disks... (for future reference) :-)
Dave Land
Land (vintage) Computer Service :-D
Again, thanks to to eagle eyes of some faithful watchers out there, I've
been able to identify another eBay seller of my stolen archives:
eBay seller ID "appliancealley"
http://www.ebay.com/sch/appliancealley/m.html
For those who have been suggesting professional legal counsel, you should
be happy to know that I am speaking with such tomorrow. Thank you for
your concerns. I'll let you know what they're able to offer to me.
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Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.
I am trying to get DECnet working on SIMH running VMS 3.7 using a DELUA. I
have already fixed one bug in the DELUA emulation that gave a fatal
controller error on startup, but now I get this:
$ @startnet
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00020011 %OPCOM,
25-JAN-2013 22:15:27.94, message from user DECNET DECnet starting
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0001000C %NCP-I-
NMLRSP, listener response - Operation failure, detail # 30 Executor
node = 9
(VMS037) %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort $
Can anyone tell me what this means?
After that the line bounces up and down with line synchronisation lost
errors.
Regards
Rob
Always wondered the same. Longer worded its floppy diskette. Not sure if it would ever be discette in eu? Alternatively discoteque (*sp) I believe is music or cd store in spanish. I'm not sure what disc (in compact disc) is short for if anything.
I'm restoring a pdp11/34a, and I've got a weird problem I'm hoping
someone out there can help me with.
The system seems to be working just fine, with one exception: bus reset
just doesn't work.
The unibus is configured correctly; I've verified that NPR is
jumpered/granted correctly through the bus. This is a BA11-L box with
the DD11-PK 9-slot backplane, configured like this:
Slot 1 - CPU
Slot 2 - CPU
Slot 3 - A/B M9312 bootstrap/terminator, C/D/E/F M7859 front panel
programmers interface controller
Slot 4 - 128 Kword MOS memory
Slot 5 - RL11 controller
Slot 6 - C/D/E/F M7856 DL11-W console RS232 interface
Slot 7 - C/D G7273 dual bus grant
Slot 8 - C/D G7273 dual bus grant
Slot 9 - A/B M9302 terminator, C/D/E/F M7856 DL11-W configured at 776500
for TU58 tape drive
The symptoms:
At poweron, the system starts the M9312 console emulator software; I
can use it to deposit a small program into memory with no problem.
Attempting to use the "S" command to actually start the program causes
the RUN light to come on; the program never executes, hitting CTRL/HALT
on the front panel causes BUS ERR, the RUN light stays on, and the only
way to regain control of the system is power off. For example:
@ L 1000
@ D 000777
@ L 1000
@ S
fails as described above.
If I use the front panel to install a program and run it, when I push
CTRL/START, the system halts at the start address. For example:
CTRL/HALT
CLR
1000
LAD
CLR
777
DEP
CLR
1000
LAD
CTRL/START
the system halts, run light out, at address 1000. If I then press
CTRL/CONT, the RUN and SR DISP lights come on, and everything works
perfectly. I can CTRL/HALT the system, continue, etc. With no problem.
Furthermore, if the program I enter contains a RESET instruction
(000005), the behavior of the system as it executes that instruction is
pretty much exactly like using the "S" command from the console emulator
- RUN stays on, CTRL/HALT causes BUS ERR, and the system is
non-responsive until I power the beast off.
For example:
CTRL/HALT
CLR
1000
LAD
CLR
240
DEP
DEP
DEP
CLR
5
DEP
CLR
1000
LAD
CTRL/START (the system halts at address 1000)
CTRL/HALT (single steps to location 1002 correctly)
CTRL/HALT (single steps to location 1004 correctly)
CTRL/HALT (single steps to location 1006 correctly)
CTRL/HALT (RUN light comes on, CTRL/HALT causes BUS ERR with RUN, system
is no longer responsive, have to poweroff)
My reading of the unibus tech manuals indicates that there is no ACK of
any kind for BUS INIT, so I am somewhat confused.
There _is_ a bit of noise on the +5V power supply; a voltmeter shows
5.02 volts stable, but there is a .5V spike at 50 kHz showing on the
scope; I can't see this causing problems _only_ with BUS RESET.
I have also verified that CTRL/INIT from the front panel seems to do
nothing at all. For example, if I halt the system and press a key on
the console emulator, examining 777560 shows 000200 (which is correct,
there is a character available at 777562). Pressing CTRL/INIT on the
front panel does _not_ clear 777560 - it still shows 000200.
All the 11/34a M9312 diagnostics run fine. This problem seems to be
limited to attempts at RESET. A disassembly of the M9312 console
emulator code shows that two things happen when you use the "S" command:
000005 (RESET)
followed by a
JMP (R5)
It's the RESET that drives the machine nuts.
Anyone have an idea?
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At 09:30 AM 1/25/2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>From the description, looks like someone scraped wikipedia last year,
>did some formatting, and is selling a 56 page book of it.
At $48.09, nice work if you can get it.
- John
Hi,
I have a working PDP 11/83 in a Pedestal (desk side) type case. Its fitted with a reasonable
sized Hard Drive, tape drive and 5.25" floppy disk. I think it has ethernet, but need to check.
This is in good shape, and boots. Its the larger desk side case (not sure on the case name)
so there is room for a second hard drive.
These are nice, 'office friendly' versions of the PDP 11, and quite a bit easier than the UNIBUS
machines to manage.
Email me if interested. I can get full specs and pictures if there is any interest.
Thanks
Ian.
>
> Consider that 42 is the answer to
> whatdoyougetwhenyoumultiplysixbynine
>
I thought it was division that was messed up on slighlty later Intel CPUs,
not multiplication?
How did it go again?
I am Pentium of Borg.
Division is futile.
Prepare to be approximated.
hey all like the q says I want to be able to go from my usb mem stick
male end and put it into a extermal speaker/mp3 player i have.. The
type of memory card the speaker takes is a sd mem card looks like they
used to make such a beast
http://www.teampctechnology.com/product_detail.php?id=603# but not
anymore doed anybody else know of any other adapters around that do
the same thing
Chris
All of them use the same kb I thunk.
------------------------------
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 7:47 AM PST David Riley wrote:
>On Jan 22, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:07 PM PST Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>>
>> Anybody on this list have an Apple M0110 keyboard with cable, or just the
>> cable, that is close to Croatia? I have a fellow there that really wants
>> one, but the shipping is too high from the US.
>>
>> What kind of k/b is that. If I have one *maybe* Ill send it to him. My mum is Hrvatska. You have to ask him where he at for me though (town).
>
>It's the original Mac (128K and 512K, not Plus) keyboard. Phone jack
>connection, no arrow keys.
>
>
>- Dave
>
>
A different issue is someone like me who replies via phone sometimes. This dingleberry phone doesn't allow me to edit original text, just delete it or include it. Sucks and I often wait to be at a real computer before replying. Still top posting intent is to not have to scroll through or past original contents. Perhaps its lazy or managerial thinking.
------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 10:16 PM PST Jerry Wright wrote:
> 1) SGI Onyx desk side Reality Engine 2
>
> Has drives and loaded OS, Good condition
> Missing front cover (skin), Has PS2 keyboard adapter
>
> 200.00 local pick up only
>
> (4) GRID 5 1/4 GPIB external floppies. Internal
> power supply. came from the military. 12x13x2 in.
> look new. can ship. 20.00 + shipping
>
> 1) Wang PC-002 old large style. has floppy, HD
> and keyboard. No Monitor. Uses a Wang monitor only
> Free, local pickup only
>
> NCR PC all-in one type no keyboard, 2 floppy system
> Free, local pickup only. Heavy
>
>
>- Jerry
>
>Jerry Wright
>253-569-6041
>g-wright at att.net
is the NCR color or mono, pc4 or decision mate?
1) SGI Onyx desk side Reality Engine 2
Has drives and loaded OS, Good condition
Missing front cover (skin), Has PS2 keyboard adapter
200.00 local pick up only
(4) GRID 5 1/4 GPIB external floppies. Internal
power supply. came from the military. 12x13x2 in.
look new. can ship. 20.00 + shipping
1) Wang PC-002 old large style. has floppy, HD
and keyboard. No Monitor. Uses a Wang monitor only
Free, local pickup only
NCR PC all-in one type no keyboard, 2 floppy system
Free, local pickup only. Heavy
- Jerry
Jerry Wright
253-569-6041
g-wright at att.net
So back in the early '90s when I was a boy scout (which is not usually a
good start to a story) we had a camp leader who had a couple of Amigas.
I'm certain one was a 1200, but I'm not sure that's relevant.
At any rate, he had a BASIC-like programming language that allowed very
easy manipulation of images and sound and used it to construct games. The
magic thing was that he would very easily steal tiles, sprites, sounds and
music from _commercial_ games which he could then drop into this language
and manipulate.
Now, I'm remembering this from across the void of time, but I remember
being really amazed that he could so easily pull a sprite from a game and
then reuse it.
Did I imagine this, or does someone know what I'm talking about here?
Cheers;
- JP
A good friend has a well preserved IBM 3430 tape drive, originally
connected to an IMPI AS/400, and we are now hopeful that it could be
reconnected to a slightly more modern AS/400, still IMPI and still
SPD. This would give us a local 9-track tape capability:
here are some pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/118247290269860741639/IBM3430TapeDrive#5606377…
What we are particularly interested to learn is whether we have the
"master" tape drive, known as a A01 unit (that includes the controller
electronics) or the tape-drive-only unit known as the B01 variant.
We added a picture today (see very last picture) of the main
controller electronics cage that shows several plug-in cards, is
anyone familiar with these and can identify the variant by sight? we
searched the entire machine looking for some designation that showed
the model variant without success. So we assume it comes down to the
controller cage, and we see empty slots so we wonder if it is the B01
variant.
On Jan 22, 2013 7:34 PM, "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org<http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>> wrote:
> http://vusb-analyzer.sourceforge.net/
> Looks pretty cool for analyzing USB traffic.
I've used it in conjunction with USBMON to sniff mostly working USB traffic (ironically running in Windows in VMWare on a linux box) to reverse engineer mostly-working protocols.
I also used some perl scripts for trolling through the usbmon output dumps.
Tim.
What kind of k/b is that. If I have one *maybe* Ill send it to him. My mum is Hrvatska. You have to ask him where he at for me though (town).
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On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:07 PM PST Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>Anybody on this list have an Apple M0110 keyboard with cable, or just the
>cable, that is close to Croatia? I have a fellow there that really wants
>one, but the shipping is too high from the US.
>
>
>
>Cindy Croxton
>
>
>
> _____
>
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>
Anyone interested in a Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL 10GBASE-SR SFP+ (850
nm, MMF, LC) transceiver, for a suitable 10 gigabit ethernet NIC.
Feel free to make me an offer. (The object is located in the
Netherlands and I'm willing to ship internationally.)
Here's a picture (not my picture, although I can make one), but
mine is identical:
<http://kleanritecleaners.com/images/ftlx8571d3bcl-i1.jpg>
- MG
Clearing out to fund a down payment on a house
Heres a listing of what I have
A Bell & Howell Apple II, some broken keys, needs chips
reseated. But will work with some love. $60
PowerMac 9600/300. The ultimate PowerPC powermac, $75.00
Compaq Portable I, with ASTSixPack ram card and carrying case,
$50 dollars
Macintosh SE/30 with keyboard and mouse 5MB RAM/80MB HDD $75
Motorola StarMax 3000/180 Macintosh Clone 32MB RAM/1.6GB HDD.
Sony PVM-1340 Broadcast Color Monitor, Supports 15khz RGB
input via BNC, Nice monitor $50 dollars. Works with pretty
much anything, Composite input as well
Apple IIGS Monitors $50 each shipped.
Apple External SCSI CD-ROM Drives $35 each shipped.
50pin SCSI HDDs ranging from 40mb to 500MB $15 each shipped
VCF East 9.0, scheduled for May 18-19 this year, is postponed to next year. That's because our venue sustained some Sandy-related damage.
It's nothing unfixable (and no artifacts in our museum were harmed), but we are not certain about having the buildings repaired in time for the show.
So, in spring 2014, we'll host VCF East 9.1. ;)
However we will probably have a swap meet and/or other smaller events this year. Details TBD.
In the meantime, there's VCF Southeast 1.0, VCF Europa, and VCF Midwest this year. (I don't know the details about Southwest or UK.)
Sellam is still looking for someone * immensely qualified * to take over VCF West. The person MUST: 1. have proven experience and success in running a sizeable convention; 2. be extremely reliable; 3. understand modern marketing techniques; and 4. have substantial time to devote to the show.
If anyone's interested and qualified, then feel free to contact me, and I can help you understand what's involved.
Does anyone know of a good [available online] UFS filesystem technical
reference (which also covers cylinder grouping, i.e. not the original
'fs')? Google's not turning up much other than a couple of overviews that
are really too high-level.
cheers
Jules
But the 1701/1702 accepts separate chroma and luminance portions of ntsc, right? I bet the Amiger don't put that out.
I have a busted 1702, keeper, and a 1084s on ebay. If anyone needs it, bust a move.
------------------------------
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:58 PM PST Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
>
>> Duh, thanks, I'd forgotten about the standard composite output on the
>> RCA jack. I was thinking I needed to use the DB23 connector. Nevermind.
>
> You'd better use the db23, the amiga image deserves RGB quality.
>
> If you have a Syncmaster 510, 710, 910 or a LG M1721A, or M1921A LCDs, you can connect 15KHz RGB directly to the VGA input, and it works.
Yeah, I am rebooting after changing the partition table and I am being
careful to "zero" the device before trying to run fdisk. A "real" Seagate
ST125N is working in the same test setup, so it is possible for it to work,
but I have no good way to see the exact SCSI protocol exchange with the
ST125N to see what the difference is.
Thanks,
Wayne
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From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Cc:
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:01:21 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Lynch <LYNCHAJ at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The only anomaly I have observed is that DOS 6.22 FDISK reports "No space
>> for DOS partition on drive" when I try to use it to create a primary
>> partition.
Is he rebooting after changing the partition table under DOS 6.22? It's a
known
thing. You can't create the partition and use it right away.
DOS did change, so it's not surprising it "works the way you expect"
under DOS 3.3. DOS was full of "well _this_ sucks! Why did they
do that?" moments back in the day. You might be experiencing one
now.
-ethan
IBM 370/138 front panel : 4900$
The sad part is the original wiring has been gutted and a silly LCD
screen&computer has been stuck in it.
321051214549
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-System-370-Model-138-Mainframe-Operator-
Control-Panel-1974-/321051214549?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%
2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D321051214549%26_rdc%
3D1&nma=true&si=RgBCBl627pizsXRcJnGCtT2Mxe4%
253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_784wt_0
Hi,
I'm looking at the schematics for some old DEC boards, and
I'm having some trouble locating datasheets for the old
parts.
I know, for instance, that the SDA-6 was a matched pair of
transistors, and equivalent to the 2N2060. I can get a
datasheet for the 2N2060 (nd pretend it's a datasheet
for the SDA-6). But what about the other SDA-n? In
particular, at the moment I am looking for a datasheet
for the SDA-5. All I know so far is the pin-out, and that
it was a matched pair of NPN transistors. (Oh yeah,
and the DEC part number was 15-01857.)
Similarly for diodes. I know a D662 is equivalent to a
1N945, but what the heck are the parameters for a
D007?
Any pointers to old data books or whatever would
help.
Thanks,
Vince
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Hi all,
I was checking out all the documentation I had scored from Camiel and found
that the space needed to store the VMS 4.0 and 6.0-6.2 documentation is more
than it is worth to me.
So it needs to go.
Pickup in the Netherlands only.
For pics;
http://home.ls-al.eu:8000/log/index.html?id=2013012101
re,
reiche
Anybody on this list have an Apple M0110 keyboard with cable, or just the
cable, that is close to Croatia? I have a fellow there that really wants
one, but the shipping is too high from the US.
Cindy Croxton
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Hi
?
Another quick update on S2I project editted for privacy and brevity.? More progress yesterday and really great news.? Still developmental obviously but am actively looking for additional test cases to shake out the firmware.? Old PC/XTs with?SCSI controllers and the early Macs seem like the logical starting point but there could be others.? Unexpected bonus is some interaction with SCSI-2 but that's out of scope for the project.? If someone gets it working then that's great but not the primary objective.
?
If you want to help with compatibility testing you'll need a serial terminal or PC running along side to capture the diagnostic message stream.? That maybe a useful feature in its own right being able to peer into previously hidden SCSI command interaction stream.
?
Please contact me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM if you have more questions or want more information.? Better yet S2I is a discussion topic at N8VEM mailing list.
?
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Subject: [N8VEM: 15431] Re: SCSI2IDE Progress
To: n8vem at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 21, 2013, 11:42 PM
Hi Folks,
Another quick progress report on SCSI2IDE. ?I got a decent amount of time to work on it this weekend and now have all basic functionality working. ?The firmware now reasonably emulates a SCSI 20MB hard disk. ?On both of my test environments, I am able to partition, format, read/write, and boot DOS 3.3.
I am now at a point where I would like to solicit help with compatibility testing. ?I'm sure it will be a bit rough at first, but I need feedback on other platforms. ?Please refer to the Wiki folder:?http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder¶m=SCSI%2…. ?You can download the firmware in the file S2I Firmware.zip. ?There is a page with more detailed information called S2I Status. ?It is easy to build the firmware and there is a pre-built ROM in there if you don't want to do a build.
The one warning is that it is currently very slow. ?I have gobs of diagnostics being spit out to the serial port (necessary evil while we work through compatibility) and there are many code optimizations I have not yet bothered with.
There is still a long way to go, but it is awesome to finally see this board doing what it was intended to. ?:-)
Thanks,
Hi
Below is an edited for privacy update on the S2I project. There is no
over-stating the importance of today's developments. This is huge!
I am sending this to you for a couple of reasons. First, we are getting
close to needing some additional builders to build and test S2I on some
other platforms for compatibility testing. In particular, I would like
early Mac and early Amiga fans since I think both of those are rich areas
for SCSI quirkiness. Also the early DEC might be good too but I don't know
enough about them one way or the other.
Second, we are reaching the end of the first batch of S2I prototype boards
and will soon need the second prototype board. So far we've raised $130 of
the $200 we'll need for the new PCBs. If you would please consider helping
out with the second batch of boards I would appreciate it and it will
benefit many in the vintage/classic/hobbyist/home brew community.
More news as it becomes available. Please ask questions or contact me at
LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:47 AM
To: Andrew Lynch
Subject: Re: lost emails on SCSI to IDE/SD converter project
Hi Folks,
Just another quick progress report. I managed to get a few hours of
uninterrupted time yesterday and continued to have more success.
Although the code is a complete disaster, I now have full read/write
functionality. I am running the SCSI2IDE from my Xi 8088 with a Future
Domain adapter that has a boot ROM. I am able to run DOS from the SDSI2IDE
with no problems. Reading and writing data between the host and my CF card
seems to be rock solid. I even ran an Adaptec utility that does a read/write
test and it worked fine. At present, I am dumping a lot of diagnostics with
every command including portions of data, so it is very slow. Additionally,
I have not implemented the pseudo-dma mode. I am nowhere near working on
performance -- that comes last.
The only anomaly I have observed is that DOS 6.22 FDISK reports "No space
for DOS partition on drive" when I try to use it to create a primary
partition. However, I am completely successful if I use DOS 3.3 FDISK to
create the partition, then use DOS 6.22 to format the partition and make it
bootable. I see odd command requests from the host when trying to use DOS
6.22 FDISK to create the partition and suspect there is something about the
ROM in my adapter that is problematic for newer versions of DOS. To be
clear, the command requests are valid SCSI commands, it is just that they
don't make sense given what FDISK is supposed to be doing.
I will try to get the code straightened out enough to post an update on the
Wiki in the next few days. We are very close to the point where it will be
helpful to get others running this "alpha" code on a variety of different
systems for compatibility testing. I'm hoping some of you folks can help
with that.
Thanks,
Reposting, since I got a 7.2 CD and other than a different version string,
the same thing happens. What am I doing wrong?
-- original message --
Okay, VAX heads. I got an external SCSI cable for my VAXstation 3100 M76 and
connected it to my old Apple SCSI CD-ROM that boots pretty much anything in
my collection (Apple, SGI, you name it). At the chevron prompt,
>>> b/r5:10000000 dkb500:
-DKB500
[...]
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
[...]
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:14
[...]
%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress.
It just sits there. So I tried it without the /r5 bit:
>>> b dkb500:
-DKB500
[...]
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
[...]
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:20
Configuring devices . . .
Available device: DKB500: device type SONY CD-ROM CDU-8
Available device: DKA0: device type RZ26
%BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP V7.2; the date is 13-JAN-2013 16:21:06.64
$
So far so good.
$ BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY DKB500:VMS073.B/SAVE_SET DKA0:
%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress.
And sits there again. What am I doing wrong? (Don't say use another CD-ROM
drive; this one works perfectly with every other computer I've used it with.
And if it *is* the drive, why would it boot from it but not install from it?)
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In a message dated 1/21/2013 10:30:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jwest at classiccmp.org writes:
That's just freaking awesome :)
The archives appear to be up as well. There seems to be an older period of
time that is missing from the re-generated archives (1997 and
thereabouts). They are there 'behind the scenes' but just not displaying in the web
interface. Other years appear fine. I've yet to test the search function that
AEK mentioned. Due to time-constraints I need to put those on the back
burner for a bit and move on to migrating other client machines. Once that's
done I'd appreciate a nudge to remind me to get back to that. If anyone
notices any major issues, please let me know asap.
And now... back to out regularly scheduled programming :)
J
On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:39 PM, jim davis wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Jay West
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:50 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: test
>
>
> test through new mx host
> working a-ok
The Apple III is gone, but the Lisa is still here.
Appears complete and in good condition, but does NOT power on.
Keyboard is included.
$125 takes it away, plus shipping.
Since UPS killed the Z100 I shipped to California, I will pack VERY well in
oversized box, so shipping will be a little higher because of the big box.
Estimated shipping within the US on UPS ground is about $75, give or take.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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