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PANASONIC HHC RL-H1800 TV DISPLAY ADAPTOR

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

WOW! someone spent alot of time reverse engineering the hhc and i thank you. i downloaded the schematics. so far i have a lead on a 1400 hhc which should be of use for the programmer or just a display board swap. i have a large bid on ebay for a ge programmer that has an 1800 with a working display and some spare ge modules. im still wondering if the tv display adaptor will work with the ge software but, it seems one cannot be located. anyone know if the tv adaptor has a rom in it? if not, it could be built of some perfboard if the chips are still available. i think i should be good with a working display - i was concerned with display rot but, it seems mine is the only one i've seen that the display went bad in 1 area. others pic's i've seen online all have good displays on them. Bill > I didn't find your schematics on the web, but I think I have a copy if > someone wants a copy. I'll put it up on my google drive if anyone wants > it and post a link. The link I have just found is : http://signalsprocessed.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/panasonic-hhc-schematics-by-… -tony

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what chip is that? IBM Displaywriter 6360 Diskette Unit

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

so what is the difference between a mask ROM 8048 and an 8748

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need DEC Rainbow keyboard for spare parts

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

>What you wnt ot find is an LK201 with a damageed casing or dead encoder >board. YOu cna then use the ocmplete mechanism. The keycaps can be >removed (you ned to twist them slithgly to release the lcokign barbs), >getting one with the wrong layouyt, or the word processor version, or... >is not a problem/ > >-tony Ok gotcha. Now if I can only get you to respond to the offlsit I sent you :)

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PDP-11 / Unibus: config info for Motorola Memory Systems MMS1117 MOS board?

by js＠cimmeri.com

Folks, I'm restoring an 11/34A. One of the MOS memory boards it came with is a circa 1979 Motorola model "MMS1117", variation "58 PC" (64KWords / 18 bits / w/parity). Would like to know if anyone out there has configuration information for this seemingly uncommon board? It's a very high quality board and has socketed RAM, so it'd be especially nice to be able to keep using it. It has 5 switch packs (only 2 of which have markings) and at least a dozen jumpers. I've only been able to locate performance specs for it at: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/motorola/_dataBooks/1979_Motorola_Me… .... which are excerpted here: www.cimmeri.com/js/download/MMS1117.pdf .... and a photo of the board is here: www.cimmeri.com/js/download/MMS1117.jpg ... a photo of the system itself is here: www.cimmeri.com/js/download/11$34-20.jpg Any help, very much appreciated. Thank you, John Singleton

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Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

>MS-DOS was _not_ complex, it was a rather trivial OS in both complexity and >especially in abilitities. my point was it was complex enough for most people that weren't inclined to delve into their computers >Calling Android "malicious corporate monster" is .. amusing. Especially with >most of the source being available via AOSP. I wonder what you call Apple >iOS (iPhone/iPad) and Windows Phone (whatever Microsoft is calling it these >days) then .. They're all monsters are you kidding me. And source code has nothing to do with the FACT that I don't yet have control over what gets installed in my computer. The average hillbilly who buys an Asus tab will say "Oh thank you great Goozitzu, thank you thank you!" when something gets installed (I don't know how to spell it exactly but that means cooley in Croatian). But even the moderately aware user is going to vow violent gory revenge. Down with Lord Goozitzu! >Also, "hijacked"? So I can't get Linux without Android? *psst* Don't tell >that to my machines (servers, desktops, laptops) all running Linux but >no trace of Android. I never said that. You must be working for Lord Goozitzu. >> I bought a tablet a few weeks >> ago, and one of the initial setup screens declared "I agree to accept >> updates from Google". > >Well, the idea is to least reduce as much as possible the number of devices >with well-known security holes (and other bugs) in the wild. Of course you >are mostly "inconvenienced" by regular updates if you buy an Android Nexus >device. Just buy a device from a manufacturer known not to give rats ass >about security fixes and you won't be bothered. I am bothered. But those updates could be any freaking thing. They don't tell me, they don't ask me. >> Apart from hitting "Learn more", and that's only a >> possibility, don't know, thought of utilizing that after the fact, I had no >> way of opting out. I won't use the thing on the internet until I figure out >> how to disable that. Freedom has a price. > >Or you could install Cyanogenmod and keep it updated yourself Someone already suggested that. And it will void my warranty.

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what chip is that? IBM Displaywriter 6360 Diskette Unit

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Not likely even in my mind, but the NEC APC utilized both a WD FDC and the 765 via an aftermarket add on. I originally wanted to state that the stock unit had both, but I'd really have to check on that. That part # is 8665. Rockwell used the house # 6765 for their 765 clone. Intels wasx 1272 or 1772 oi I just woke up. This much I do know. The APC comes w/8" drives and utilizes a 765. The aftermarket board which allows for 5 1/4" drives has a WD chip. Go figure.

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HP 9000/375 Added to the Collection

by jjacocks＠gmail.com

So, I picked up another old workstation, this time an HP 9000/375. I did a basic clean-up and test, and it does seem to work. With a reversed VGA-to-5BNC cable, I can see the diags run on the monitor. It has 8mb of RAM. So, questions, if anyone here has any knowledge about these beasts. 1) I have the HIL-PS/2 adapter (HP calls is the "keyboard adapter module"), but it doesn't plug in to the HIL port on the machine. There is a descending piece of plastic on the right side of the 10P10C connector that blocks it. I know that this adapter was made for the 9000/700 PA-RISC workstations, will it work with the 375, if I remove that tab? 2) What kind of memory do these machines take? I find reference to a 32mb kit (of 2 16mb modules) via HP part number 98229E. The specs say that this machine will take 128mb. So, should I just try to track down 4 kits? Any other advice would be welcome. This is my first 68k workstation, and I'm hoping to have more, in the future. Thanks! - Alex

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Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 11:09 AM PST Murray McCullough wrote: >Should we be surprised at how and why classic-computing, this site in >particular, is so popular amongst the hobbyist/experimenter community >today? There is a modicum of control that?s lacking in today?s >computing, or computing-like, technology. Granted it?s ?easier? to >use/employ, nearly by all; everything, or almost, done without >consumer input but turning the infernal beast on. Or, maybe not with >the ?intelligence agents? been employed today! And even our computers >I dare say going this route. Automatic updates, etc., etc., >happen?Making a computer or otherwise do what you want it to do, >rather than say an Apple or something akin, is fast becoming a thing >of the past. Freedom. Let?s hope it?s not pass? either! > >Murray-- For a lot of people in the various seasons of life, being acquainted with every aspect of their machines just isn't practical. Most people don't even care, much less have the background to understand what's going on/wrong and what's needed periodically. OS's are way too complex (MS-DOS was complex). Linux is everywhere these days. Yet even it has effectively been hijacked by a malicious corporate monster (in Android). I bought a tablet a few weeks ago, and one of the initial setup screens declared "I agree to accept updates from Google". Apart from hitting "Learn more", and that's only a possibility, don't know, thought of utilizing that after the fact, I had no way of opting out. I won't use the thing on the internet until I figure out how to disable that. Freedom has a price.

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PANASONIC HHC RL-H1800 TV DISPLAY ADAPTOR

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Hi All, I have an rl-h1800 HHC that is part of a GE two way radio programmer. the display is not displaying full characters from the middle of the display to almost the last third of the display and i noticed that a tv display adaptor was available for the hhc. anyone have one or know where i can get one? i haven't checked out how the display is wired into the hhc but, i'm guessing that it used the flex strip or worse yet, that rubber multi conductor bridge strip with the microscopic wires. has anyone fixed loss of dots on the single line lcd? the ge suitcase programmer does have the i/o expander and also has the printer along with two custom i/o boxes for the radio interface and eprom radio program storage box, so, i do have room for a display adaptor. Thankx, Bill

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Stardent documentation now online; Dore' documentation wanted

by legalize＠xmission.com

David Gesswein sent me a bunch of Stardent graphics workstation documentation. The last of that documentation has now been scanned, uploaded to bitsavers and added to manx: <http://manx.classiccmp.org/search.php?cp=126> I would still like to get the documentation for Dore', Stardent's proprietary graphics rendering API. If anyone has Dore' documentation, please contact me so that I can get that online as well. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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More DEC Module photos

by v.slyngstad＠frontier.com

Hi, Having finished the work for the modules used in the straight-8, the 8/S, PT08, TU55, and the TC01, I'm moving on to other PDP-8 modules. Toward that end, I've made a list of what I'm missing for various pieces of gear related to various models of PDP-8. What I'm looking for here is fairly decent resolution photographs of the component and solder sides of the boards, so I can do the placement and routing accurately. Any revision of these boards is fine for this initial work. 8/L: M703 M705 (I also need these same modules for the 8/I.) 8/I: M702 M703 M704 M705 M714 M716 TC08: G879 M228 M633 M916 PDP-12: A215 A404 A811 G718 G780 G783 G793 G916 M141 M166 M711 M720 M760 W078 Linc-8: A130 B117 B171 G906 R122 R410 W024 W031 W035 W072 W073 (I imagine these will be the hardest to locate, as there are very few surviving examples of some of them.) Thanks, Vince -- o< The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Against HTML Email!

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Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Think "PADDs" in Star >Trek: TNG. > > -Dave You keep pulling me into something that'll likely turn into a rant. I am no fan of TNG, and I don't know what they are. I know the original series was considered pc in it's time. But TNG was order of magnitudes more so. So much so I'm sure if it was produced today, Riker and Picard would be having sex in the turbolifts between decks.

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Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

> Just "root" it and install something (relatively) open like CyanogenMod. I turned a Nook Color from a useless brick (I haven't read fiction in ~30yrs) to a tablet that I use every day thanks to that approach. > > -Dave The Asus tf300 is a different beast. I realize there are roms you can substitute (and haven't heard of that one, previously preoccupied with Zenithink, thanks), but you could brick your tablet in the process, as well as void your warranty. I will root mine prior to the year mark. A bit queasy about swapping out roms though. I'll at least have to see if it's been done on my unit. Is yours the original Nook or the Nook tablet (not the latest)? Are you delving into A* at all?

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need DEC Rainbow keyboard for spare parts

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 6:24 PM PST Dave McGuire wrote: > I have a few busted LK201s; I will dig through them this weekend. >Send me your shipping address. Do you require one that's mechanically >sound but electrically busted, or the other way around? Assuming that kb still works, just parts, like keytops and that white plastic component that's visible along the top rows at least when the keys are pulled. Even that got chopped up. I'd probably be interested in whatever you got. Why did I sell my Rainbow?? I've sold off 3 in less then a year! Never did find a color card. O sher this stuff is easy to find. Keebees maybe. Not much else.

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Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

All those bits of rubber are now blobs of goo--and tough as the devil to get cleaned up, much less replaced. Try GooGone and a host of other things. Can't say for certain but I have to believe there's some way of removing it w/o too much fuss. Tape residue and I realize it's entirely different comes right off with what used to be called Afta, but they were bought by someone years ago.

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Cross country hauling available.

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

Once again, late-April/mid-May will see my roadtripping across the country, from coast to coast. I have quite a lot of unclaimed space that I need to fill up. As in the past, I am offering to move vintage computer equipment for a decent price from source to your doorstop - single items like bulky terminals to six foot racks to mounds of documentation and tapes. Prices are quite reasonable, especially seeing how much freight costs have exploded recently. I can load from just about anywhere, and unload just the same. All items get great care when being loaded, shipped, and unloaded. At this point, it looks like the journey will be New York to Chicago to Denver to Salt Lake to Seattle to San Jose to San Luis Obispo, then back to Boulder to Chicago to New York. At this point, only the Denver to Seattle portion is completely booked, however, this has not been confirmed yet. I also have partial loads from New York to Denver, and hopefully a partial load from San Jose to New York. So, if you need something rescued and hauled, please contact me off list, and we can see what can be done. -- Will

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Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

"I agree to accept updates from Google". > >For most idiot users this is a sensible setting. But they don't even have an opt out. Even MalGrowSoft LOL LOLgives you the option. >Looking at :- > >http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/transformer-prime-general-discussion… > >and assuming yours is the same you probably can't unless you rootkit >it, but of course being Linux you should have that option. Hey thanks Dave! Mine isn't the Prime though, the next one (muuuuuch cheaper, not that I payed anything up front). Not that it would matter. But don't worry I'll be busting up this thing in no time. I'll root the DVM and send Google periodic updates!! Those monkeys. >-- >Dave Wade G4UGM >Illegitimi Non Carborundum >

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Houston Area help

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

I may need some short term help with a museum pickup in Houston. It is a small item (well, sort of - 50 pounds? Certainly trunk of the car small), but would need pickup in 15 days or so. It is a piece of avionics gear. Expenses would be paid, of course, to fetch this and probably ship it (unless I swing by Houston soon). Any interest? -- Will

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need DEC Rainbow keyboard for spare parts

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 5:58 PM PST allison wrote: >Yep it is. any of the LK201, 301 and a few others should work equally well. > >Allison The pressing question on everyone's mind I'm sure is does Allison keep a Rainbow...

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need DEC Rainbow keyboard for spare parts

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 5:17 PM PST Zane H. Healy wrote: >At 3:21 PM -0800 2/22/13, Chris Tofu wrote: >> I sold my R* like a fool. K/b was broken up, and now I feel bad and would like to get the guy a working replacement or parts. > >It's just an LK201, right? I'd think that would be easy enough to track down. > >Zane If you say so. I've asked in the past. And would much rather have a broken one so the two can be put to use. A working spare should go to a ready system. I hate waste and I was a moron for dropping it.

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need DEC Rainbow keyboard for spare parts

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I sold my R* like a fool. K/b was broken up, and now I feel bad and would like to get the guy a working replacement or parts.

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Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

It WILL melt the plastic on old dial-up >telephones. >Cindy Hmmm. Not sure when they stopped using it, but I think phones os some vintage were bakelite or phenolic.

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Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 2:24 PM PST Chuck Guzis wrote: >On 02/22/2013 01:02 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> All those bits of rubber are now blobs of goo--and tough as the devil >> to get cleaned up, much less replaced. >> >> Try GooGone and a host of other things. Can't say for certain but I >> have to believe there's some way of removing it w/o too much fuss. >> Tape residue and I realize it's entirely different comes right off >> with what used to be called Afta, but they were bought by someone >> years ago. > >From the sounds of it, probably naphtha. > >The big problem with a lot of this stuff is that it's been attached to or leaked onto plastic parts. You want to be very careful of what you use on old plastic. Some solvents can cause it to disintegrate. > >I've had moderate success with mineral spirits. It's terrible yucky stuff, no matter what you use. Benzene (not benzine) would probably also work, but I haven't tried it because it's very difficult to obtain, being classed as a carcinogen and all... > >--Chuck I don't know if contains naptha or not. it was probably named. afta because you use it after you spray down certain surfaces with glue. regardless of what was in it it was very safe for plastic and even painted surfaces as long as you didn't go crazy. I was going nuts trying to clean tape residue off of plastic monitors with thinner, then my father started using the afta that I had an old soda bottle, and it came off quite painlessly. It was a thin colorless liquid, and. IIRC it subsequently was called goof off or.goo gone. I bought a small bottle of something also called goo gone at target for 1$. Haven't used it, but it's yellow in a clear plastic container.

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Hyperterm for Altair 680b

by nick.allen＠comcast.net

anyone ever use a USB/Serial cable to connect to an Altair? I am trying to connect my 680b to my windows 7 computer via hyper-terminal to no avail. Any special settings I should be aware for terminal settings (currently using 9600, 8 data bits, 1 stop bits, NONE for parity and flow control). Also, anyone know where I can get the ROM files for a 680b?

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PANASONIC HHC RL-H1800 TV DISPLAY ADAPTOR

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Re: PANASONIC HHC RL-H1800 TV DISPLAY ADAPTOR From: Eric Smith Bill Allen Jr wrote: > I have an rl-h1800 HHC that is part of a GE two way radio programmer. > > the display is not displaying full characters from the middle of the display to almost the last third of the display and i noticed that a tv display adaptor was available for the hhc. > Note that the TV adapter does not (necessarily) replicate what is on the > display. You might or might not be able to redirect the display output > to the TV adapter, depending on the specific software you're running. Thankx for the info. i did read that in the manual and since the ge software only uses text on the single line display, i am hoping it will echo it on the adaptor. unless the adaptor need's to be specifically called in the software to do the echo via the i/o channel,in which case i'll still have to fix the display or change it. Bill

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Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by mcwood＠nefkom.net

Hi Chuck, Thank you for the hints. I have a NEC FD1165 which looks different to the BAS6105. Haven't opened the Basf 6105 yet. I'll try to make some pictures to show the differences. The NEC FD1165 is a nice drive. I took it from my Apollo DN300 drive shoebox. No belt mechanism running with 220V/110V. It worked quite some time perfectly. No read errors like my Shugart 851 in reading disks from 1985. But the suddenly the NEC stopped working caused by a rubber part which turned into glue. That glue locked the head mechanism. I remove that glue. Heads are going down again but now I get read errors. Here's a guy from Japan with the same problem (pls. look a image 7) : http://www.geocities.jp/tangoorisyoku/ku__page/ku_cgs/98_mente/8inch_FD1165A /1165A_mente.html I hope to find some time to look at the NEC1165 service manual to perhaps check the head alignement with a scope. The manual shows a procedure how to do that. I don't have an alignement floppy. I hope good floppy from my stock might work. Best Regards, Marc Message: 16 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:54:52 -0800 From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive Message-ID: <5125705C.10107 at sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/20/2013 12:33 PM, Marc Holz wrote: > I have a BASF 6105 8inch floppy drive and would like to find information on > the jumper settings. According my list, the 6105 is really a rebadged NEC 1165. You can find a basic manual here: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/fjkraan/comp/divcomp/doc/NEC_FD1165_8_inch_fl oppy.pdf Marcus has a maintenance manual on his site: http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/NEC/diskette/NEC%20FD1165%20Maintenance. pdf Let me know if this isn't right so I can correct my notes. --Chuck

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Huge lot of Univac/Unisys DCP / System-80 series manuals available soon

by p.gebhardt＠ymail.com

Hi list, I'm almost done with the scanning of the 25-30 Sperry-Univac/Unisys binders regarding OS/3, System-80 and DCP-hardware, I got from a company years ago. Parts of it are already online on bitsavers, the rest will be made available to Al at the end of year. I just wanted to make sure the content is scanned and thus saved and as I don't have the hardware and therefore no use for it, I'd like to give the documentation away to somebody who is interested in that. I'll give the documents to whoever seems most approriate from my point of view. Hints to institutions or persons not being on the list and favourable from you point of you are welcome, too. Documents are located in Germany. Shipping would cost and need to be organised if you don't want to pick up, but I'd help with organisation, if possible. Kind regards, Pierre ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/

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MRRT-11 anyone?

by bob＠jfcl.com

> John Wilson wrote: >I thought it was just a conditional assembly of regular RT-11? >(MRRT$ conditionals in RMONSJ.MAC V4.0 for one). Of course that's >not the same as an actual distribution... I finally got a copy of the MRRT manual to read (thanks, Steve!) and it does require that you have RT11 v4 to build MRRT. I'm sure a lot of the sources were shared, but it looks like there were at least some components (e.g. MRTGEN, DLLOAD) that were unique to MRRT11. There must have been an extra diskette or tape that you had to get from DEC that had the MRRT components. So I'm still stuck looking for a copy - if anybody has it or has seen it, I'd love a pointer. Thanks, Bob Armstrong

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Unknown disk cartridge + drive

by cc＠informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

Hi, can someone identify this disk cartridge and drive? http://computermuseum.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/dev/tmp/unknown/ I don't have better quality photos. The cartridge is made by Dysan and is about 8" in size. Christian

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Unknown disk cartridge + drive

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

I think it's a removable cartridge for Lark disk from CDC. They were strange units with a fixed and a removable disk on the same spindle, with two couple of heads moved by the same linear motor. You could access the fixed/removable disks as separate units. The units were used also in Honeywell machines. I have two units in my depot, but unfortunately no cartridge. I only had a picture of it, and it seems very similar, if not identical. I also have a DEC RC25 unit, designed with the same concept. maybe this cartridge could fit there as well... Could you take some other picture, and possibly the exact size? Do you have also the drive unit? If you can do nothing with this cartridge, in case you don't need it, it could be interesting for me to have it... Andrea

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Shipping cost USA >> Europe , heavy item ??

by gerardcjat＠free.fr

Hello All, Does someone known / has experience, with shipping HEAVY items ( 120 lbs ) From States to Europe ?? Cost and which carrier would be recommanded ?? My question is mainly about SHIPPING COST only, ( packaging cost excluded ). Thanks

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Hyperterm for Altair 680b

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0600 2/20/13, Allison wrote: >I've used a FTSB USB to serial... Is this shorthand for "FTDI" or is there another manufacturer? -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Hyperterm for Altair 680b

by ajp166＠verizon.net

On 02/20/2013 07:47 AM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > Nick Allen wrote: >> anyone ever use a USB/Serial cable to connect to an Altair? I am trying >> to connect my 680b to my windows 7 computer via hyper-terminal to no >> avail. Any special settings I should be aware for terminal settings >> (currently using 9600, 8 data bits, 1 stop bits, NONE for parity and >> flow control). >> >> Also, anyone know where I can get the ROM files for a 680b? > Have you examined the 680 schematics (available on the web)? > A 680 can be configured in a number of ways, including various > baud rates, signaling schemes (rs-232 is just one of three > choices) and the firmware may be ASCII or Baudot. You need to > do much more investigation than "just plug it in". > > Bill S. > I've used a FTSB USB to serial for connect to several macines, I do have several adaptors to get te right levels and connector as the cable I have is 3.3V LVCMOS. Other than the correct levels there are no issues. I have no idea where the Baudot thing comes from as those terminals were rarely used with micros and the standard asr-33 and adm/vt05/vt52/H19 terminals were all ascii. Most of the serial USB to serial cables need a driver to match the OS to the cable. Linux you use minicom and the correct ttyUSB port. Note the cable must be able to do slow rates like 110, 300, 600,1200 as most of the older machines will generally not keep up with 2400 or faster (for most modem programs). Allison Allison

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FS: HP rx2600 "Montecito" along with parts and more

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

My last IPF system has been powered down and is staying that way. (Except for possible Telnet, SSH, etc. 'test drives'.) I don't need/ want it anymore. I paid a pretty spicy sum for it (on a student's income, driven by fiery enthusiasm), originally. /Yes/, the fact that I'm offering these items for sale here means also that I'm willing to ship internationally, naturally as long as it's covered by the buyer. The object is located in the Netherlands. The rx2620 can be delivered with the following: - dual-processor Intel Itanium 9015 (SL9PC, released in 2007), "Montecito" dual-core and hyperthreading processors with VT-x at 1400 MHz with 12 Mbytes cache (up to ~533 MHz FSB, per Intel ARK), installed in late 2011 (brand-new out of the box); - up to 24 Gbytes ECC-registered DDR-SDRAM (I can also lower to just 8 Gbytes); - HP iLO/MP card, with on-board ATi Radeon 7000 and permanent SSH license; - LSI 1030 dual-channel Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE, on-board, with external HD68 connector included; - HP rx2600/rx2620 card cage with 4-slot PCI-X riser board; - Intel i82546 dual GbE NIC, on-board; - HP slimline stock DVD-ROM drive (also burner available, which I will happily 'hack' into the system; no, not an original part, but it seemed to work, certainly as far as 'reading' goes... never really found the opportunity or excuse to burn anything from VMS). There are loads of PCI, PCI-X, rx2600/rx2620 and even AGP+PCI-X mixed zx6000-type card cage available (the latteris not officially supported, but you can have it for free, with a FireGL X1, HP-UX/ Windows audio card and 'official' HP IEEE-1394a FireWire card included, for HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD, Windows for IA-64 or whatever, if you should care for that). In terms of PCI (3.3 V) and PCI-X options: USB 2.0 (NEC), LSI 1030 "FusionMPT" Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE HBAs, Broadcom BCM5700-series GbE NICs (including one or more AXP-compatible DEGXA original, DEGXA mod.'ed and a DEGX2 mod.'ed), various rather interesting 'combo' cards, for FC (850 nm, MMF, LC; HBA) and GbE (copper, NIC) and Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE (via VHDCI) and GbE (copper, NIC). I also have a whole stack (6 or 7 of HP/Exar/Neterion Xframe 10GbE NICs, which I used in my rx2600, rx2620 and DS15 systems and made MSCP quite 'interesting'. Not to forget, non-"Mobility"/VMS-compatible Radeon 7500 PCI (and AGP, for what it's worth... perhaps in the ES47?) I also have plenty of 'spare' items, like hot-swap zx6000/rx2600/ rx2620 type PSUs, PC2100 ECC RDIMMs, an M-cable, Itanium 2 (e.g. "McKinley", "Madison", "Madison-9M", etc. era socket, like in zx2000, zx6000/rx2600/rx2620, etc.) "Processor Tool", a bunch of HP 3 1/2" HDD 'ring'-type sleds/brackets and more. In other words, if there is anything you're looking for, I may just have it and want to get rid of it. I will also upload some pictures, in a follow-up, and can make more on request. - MG

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used test and measurement equipment

by sales＠elecplus.com

Found a site today that might be useful to some of you. http://www.used-line.com/ There are dealers world-wide. Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6119 - Release Date: 02/20/13

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Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by mcwood＠nefkom.net

Hello, I have a BASF 6105 8inch floppy drive and would like to find information on the jumper settings. The drive is attached with a custom build cable to a linux pc to produce dmk images. The cable worked already with a Shugart 851. Only one side of the 6105 drive is working, DS 8 inch floppy are not been read successfully (only Side0 is accessible). Might caused by jumper or the drive is out of order. I hope that someone on the list might have a technical manual of that drive. Marc

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Xerox Smalltalk

by lproven＠gmail.com

Does anyone know of anywhere I might be able to read some reasonably detailed accounts of the operating systems of the Xerox Smalltalk workstations and Lisp Machines?

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Aviion was Re: Data General Nova

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I saw what I believe was a Motorola based Aviion tower in a junk pile in a scrap pile a few years ago. I remember asking the list if anyone wanted me to retrieved it. There were no replies.

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Totally shameless plug - Atari Book now available for immediate purchase...

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Well, after 7 years of research and over a year of writing and editing the book - Atari Inc. Business is Fun is now available for immediate purchase. https://www.createspace.com/3928085 800 Pages in total with nearly 300 pages of just memo's, court documents as well as rare and never before seen photo's and sketches. Told by the employees who worked there and cross checked by others as well as with supporting document evidence, this is a true recounting of Atari from its inception in the halls of AMPEX in 1969 by an engineer and a visionary that turn their efforts in a $2 billion juggernaut that then implodes into a $538 million death spiral by June 1984. Lots of detailed side stories such as "Rick Rats Big Cheese Restaurants" which would become the famous Chuck E Cheese franchise. How Atari had its own "Xerox PARC" in the Sierra Foothills and one of their first projects was a wireless version of arcade PONG to a much more detailed recounting of Steve Jobs time while at Atari, with far better details than what is told in Walter Isaacson's book, plus the true and accurate recounting of the creation of Breakout with input from Steve Wozniak who contributor to the chapter. Also the full story of the dealings and double-dealings between Atari and Amiga from November 1983 through June 1984 before Jack Tramiel even steps into the picture, including never before seen photo's, documents and court records. If you're looking for a gift for yourself or someone you know, you can order now for immediate shipment, or if your not in a rush and just want something to kick back and enjoy during the winter, order for January 2013 delivery and receive a $5.00 discount when you purchase: http://tinyurl.com/bs7kor8 Coming this time next year will be book #2 - Atari Corp. Business is War which will detail Atari from June 1984 through 1998... Curt

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I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Hey, I used to have one of those. In fact, I used to have THIS VERY SAME UNIT. <sigh> -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Datapoint 2200 CRT repair

by nick.allen＠comcast.net

I am sending some Datapoint 2200 CRTs to Thomas for repair. They have to retool their shop for this repair, therefor BULK is our friend. Anyone want to get in on a group rate?

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Spartan Mimic (was Re: I hate doing this - Mimic guess where)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Sellam Ismail <sellam at vintagetech.com> wrote: > > Hey, I used to have one of those. In fact, I used to have THIS VERY SAME > UNIT. I used to have one, too. I got a pre-release unit for testing. Not sure what happened to it. Have the manual, have the plastic shell, but inexplicably (for me, at least), no boards. I think somewhere I must have a 1541 on a shelf with the Apple II disk board (it wedge into the C= drive case between the regular "DOS board" and the drive mechanism, and provided an Apple II 20-pin drive connector so you could just plug it right into any Apple II disk interface, brand-name or clone. It was an interesting beast, but IMO came to the market a bit late and a bit expensive for what you got. It did work. I ran lots of software, especially games, on it and I don't recall any huge problems (maybe a few minor ones). It has its own 6502 and ROMs and video circuit, so really, it's an Apple II clone with a built-in video MUX and disk mux that borrows a few things (like the keyboard) from the "host". There were keystrokes to switch which "personality" owned the video output and disk and listened to the keyboard, but as long as both CPUs weren't trying to simultaneously do disk I/O, their code kept running. I used this implementation "feature" to do an interesting thing - Infocom games run from RAM except when they need to read in new code and text from the floppy. In particular, they don't do disk I/O while waiting for the user to type more commands. I booted up one side (probably the Apple first) and started, say, "Enchanter", then once I scrolled through the text to the first prompt, replaced the Apple "Enchanter" disk with a C-64 "Sorcerer" disk and started that game. Once that game rolled through all the text to the first prompt, I swapped disks and active CPUs again and could alternate play from one machine to the other. If I'd had the money at the time to afford a dedicated Apple II drive, I could have made _that_ its Drive 0 and not swapped disks, just keyboard and video. It was still a fun way to abuse the system. Once Apple IIs started getting really cheap (by the time the GS was out, not many people wanted a crufty old II+ anymore), I got one of those and shelved the Mimic. I wish I knew why I removed the mainboard and what I did with it. They didn't make very many of them so I doubt I'll be able to replace it. I do have the original docs and Apple-side disc for it. At some point, I should probably make an archive of it since someone is probably interested in them. -ethan

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Tek 4317

by reiche＠ls-al.eu

Hi all, I was wondering about the Tektronix 4317 machine. The only information I'm able to find online is the catalog introducing it: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/tektronix/\ 44xx/4300_Series_1988_Catalog.pdf The rest inside that bitsavers PDF (or Bits corner for that matter) don't even mention the 4300 series. I gather it should run UTek 3.1, but where could I try to find the media (which is 5.25" floppy I think) for that O/S? Does anyone know of the connections which can be made on such a machine? Kind regards, If it has Reiche wheels or ------------------ a skirt, you can't http://ls-al.eu/~reiche afford it.

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Altair & Cromemco systems for sale

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I have the following systems for sale. I am taking offers for the next week or so and will sell each for the highest offer received then. Description and then URL with photos follows. Altair 8800 S/N 220354K MITS CPU BD REV 0 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0-X3 MITS DISK #2 REV 0-X2 Processor Technology 3P+S I/O http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800/ Altair 8800a S/N 225341K MITS CPU BD REV 0 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0 X4 MITS DISK #2 REV 1 Ithaca Audio IA-1100 http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800a/ Altair 8800b S/N 300-000270 MITS 8800B CPU BD REV 0 PCC TURNKEY MODULE PCC S-100 INTERFACE CEPC 4-SIO-1 http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800b%20%231/ Altair 8800b MITS 8800B CPU BD REV 0 MITS Altair 8800b REV 0 TURNKEY MODULE MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0-X3 MITS DISK #2 REV 0-X2 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 Heuristics Inc Speechlab Cromemco D+7A I-O http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800b%20%232/ Cromemco System Three I'm still looking for the boards for this system. Photos are of enclosure and drives. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Cromemco%20System%20Three/ Cromemco Z2-D I'm still looking for the boards for this system. Photos are of enclosure and drives. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Cromemco%20Z-2D/ Heathkit H11 + H27 I need to get the configuration of this system and will post it to the directory with the photos later today. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Heathkit%20H11/ Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Looking for 'Complete Works' by Toplevel Computing

by dave.thearchivist＠gmail.com

I have a couple of distributions of hard disk (and other computer hardware) information in a brochure ware form CD but really it seems it is a database/spreadsheet thing like works/excel. It has jumper settings and diagrams for many disks etc and it would be nice to extract the data from the tables It has small database tables in a .idd format which seem to match up to a package 'Complete Works' by Toplevel Computing Dave Caroline

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I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 3:15 AM PST Chris Pye wrote: >I am probably one of the worst offenders of collecting "useless" and "impractical" machines, and to be honest I would probably buy it if it was close by and cheap enough.. I just can't fathom why anybody made it, especially at that time (from what I remember it was late to market). Surely it would have cost as much or more than an Apple II clone, and knowing how incompatible some Apple II clones were, how did this machine go running from a C64. > >Actually after having a second look I am totally intrigued about the design, did it have it's own 6502? You'll have to do your own research on that (my guess though is definitely. The Commie besides has a 6510). I know (or remember) nothing specific, just that it was advertised forever it seemed in Compute and whatnot.

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cctech Digest, Vol 114, Issue 27

by tmfdmike＠gmail.com

> Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:58:48 -0600 > From: Hans Van Slooten <vansloot at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Symbolics 3640 on eBay > Message-ID: > <CANf3X5Ve1F6fn23LbAviTROUEnBj3U3EhtWVrpbAbtUTD2Pj7g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Functional-Symbolics-3640-Artificial-Intel… > ? Oooooh. Bid placed! Thanks Hans; that's exactly what I need for the front-end for my Connection Machine CM-200!!!! Mike http://www.corestore.org

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I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111013285214?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984… There's already ample bids on it, so I guess I shouldn't feel that bad. The first time I've ever *seen* one. Heard about it all the time back in the day. Looks like the old C64 case. Being a Commie expansion option makes it more collectible in my eyes then the fact that it runs the other s/w. Would be nice to have one. Sure would be nice. Probably not this week.

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Saving Dick Smith software for posterity

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

Anyone use a Semi-virtual diskettes? Sometimes they are very handy devices. http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2013-02-19-saving-dick-smith-softw…

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I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:00 PM PST Chris Pye wrote: >That thing is totally ridiculous! what would make you say such a thing!!!??? it seems people have to be continually reminded that this is a nostalgia group. and as such it doesn't really matter if something works or not!! let's hear it for light and airy vaporware!!

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