- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

O God they're coming out of the woodwork now. Of course there's exceptions. The exceptions have to do with those who persist in violating God's will. I don't know who told you it's biblical to hate blacks or Jews. That's just straw nonsense to allude to some extraneous notions that have absolutely zero to do with scripture. Why do people focus on some demented hillbilly's words, when there are millions and millions of Christians who don't say any such thing??? Jesus was a Jew who's cross is alleged to have been carried by a black dude named Simon. Phillip baptized someone from Africa in Acts. Please tell me what you're talking about. But you see those are the times we live in. People love confusion apparently. It's far better to spout nonsense or actively promote abberant behavior. And confuse children so they can grow up and hate truth and decency. And wind up with communicable diseases. I'll respectfully continue this conversation privately (or on another forum of your choosing) Daniel. I live for it. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 1:17 PM PDT Daniel Seagraves wrote: > >On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. > >Oh, goody! A Real Christian! Maybe you can answer a question I have: > >Please show me the list of exceptions to John 3:16! It says "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." > >Obviously there's a secret list of exceptions, you know, all the people God hates? Some people tell me God hates blacks, and some people tell me God hates gays, and some say Jews? It's like they all have different lists! Everyone seems to have a list except for me, I can't find it anywhere. Can you please enlighten me? Every time I ask a Real Christian for the list, they run away or point to something else. > >I just want to make sure I'm hating all the right people! > >

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Vacuum tube and semiconductor cross ref and current replacements

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://www.worldtubecompany.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=TSL _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6166 - Release Date: 03/12/13

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Everything abt vacuum tubes, plans, lessons, cross ref, extending their life, etc.

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://ebookbrowse.com/lesson-60-vacuum-tubes-used-in-transmitting-pdf-d3112 23117 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6166 - Release Date: 03/12/13

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

LOL why would I go to you!! You still have family hear as I recall little bow wow. Another little cowardly punk with a big mouth from New Jersey. Get in your car and put your money where your mouth is. I don't threaten people Dave. I happen to be 6'4" and MY threats tend to be taken much more seriously. Besides it just being ugly. And you not only want to do me harm, you want to humiliate me on my own property. I have never spoken to anyone like that in my life. You can judge a person's character by how they treat their enemies even little creep. And until today we had no problem with one another. Is Brian gay? Why did he have to take this all up once again a day later?? How many times do I have to listen to people TELLING everyone else to iggy me? How much of that would you put up with? And I won't apologize for a single word. Did one person, besides Doc in a way, say anything about Liam's comments. But your little buddy had to draw attention ONCE AGAIN to what I said, where I specifically targeted NO ONE. Yet repeatedly I was attacked, then threatened. Enough was enough. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 1:00 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: > > Like I said: "Show up". > > Otherwise...*plonk* > >On 03/13/2013 03:15 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> >> I live in New Jersey where you're from little tough guy. You know the way. And what do I care who's your friend??? I'm supposed to continuously abide by the attacks against me, and your threats little punk. I don't think your enough man to take me on. Not that I find your petty threat the least bit credible. How pathetic. >> >> Yes little man you've given them enough reason for them to ban me. Congratulations for throwing gasoline on the match, from the getgo. >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:58 AM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> >> What's angering me is the unbelievable shit you just spewed at a man >> whom I consider a friend. >> >> You don't have to do what I tell you. I'm quite certain your days on >> this list are numbered. One does not say shit like that and get away >> with it. >> >> And as for my "little threat"...show up. Make my day. >> >> Fucking dirtbag. >> >> -Dave >> >> On 03/13/2013 02:52 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> What's angering you at this point, I don't know. Regardless you don't >>> have the authority to ban me, nor tell me what to do. >>> >>> And as for your little threat, not likely Dave. Not very likely. >>> Truly adolescent besides little man. >>> >>> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:43 AM PDT Dave >>> McGuire wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok, THAT'S IT. Get the FUCK off of this list. >>> >>> NOW. >>> >>> I would beat the living daylights out of you if you were anywhere >>> nearby. On your front lawn, in front of your wife. >>> >>> Jackass. >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> On 03/13/2013 02:27 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue >>> the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. >>> >>> Are you as disturbed when parents have no choice but to have >>> their children's impressionable minds addled with exhibitions of >>> cross dressers? What about little girls who are understandably >>> uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a screwed up little boy who >>> wants to think he's a girl??? AND ARE THREATENED WITH PUNISHMENT >>> IF THEY DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Does that bother you as much??? A >>> whole freaking day later you're still wining???!!! Why do people >>> get so blown out by a little comment??? if I'm required to be a >>> vegetable that has to walk on egg shells for fear of offending >>> some little deviant, let the mods ban my account. Which just >>> might speak volumes, seeing numerous individuals spout off with >>> explitives, but "fag" or "homo", oh no don't ever utter those >>> words. >>> >>> And in the interim Brian, go strait to Hell where you belong. >>> You and the rest of the FAGS, the ACLU, and all the other weirdos >>> who defend and promote diseased, aberrant behavior. Those that >>> want to victimise the most vulnerable amongst us. Go to Hell, go >>> to Hell, go to Hell. And yes I though it was necessary. >>> >>> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 10:46 AM PDT >>> Brian Knittel wrote: >>> >>> The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney >>> Fag" comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the >>> person at that time so didn't see the most recent example. >>> >>> Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best >>> response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the >>> childish rants or not. >>> >>> No comment or argument from this group is going to have any >>> effect other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, >>> barring that, just don't reply to anything. Simple. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >> New Kensington, PA >> > > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. Are you as disturbed when parents have no choice but to have their children's impressionable minds addled with exhibitions of cross dressers? What about little girls who are understandably uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a screwed up little boy who wants to think he's a girl??? AND ARE THREATENED WITH PUNISHMENT IF THEY DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Does that bother you as much??? A whole freaking day later you're still wining???!!! Why do people get so blown out by a little comment??? if I'm required to be a vegetable that has to walk on egg shells for fear of offending some little deviant, let the mods ban my account. Which just might speak volumes, seeing numerous individuals spout off with explitives, but "fag" or "homo", oh no don't ever utter those words. And in the interim Brian, go strait to Hell where you belong. You and the rest of the FAGS, the ACLU, and all the other weirdos who defend and promote diseased, aberrant behavior. Those that want to victimise the most vulnerable amongst us. Go to Hell, go to Hell, go to Hell. And yes I though it was necessary. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 10:46 AM PDT Brian Knittel wrote: >The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney Fag" >comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the person at that >time so didn't see the most recent example. > >Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best >response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the childish >rants or not. > >No comment or argument from this group is going to have any effect >other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, barring that, >just don't reply to anything. Simple. > > > > > >

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fun things with electronics, and Contests

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://www.instructables.com/contest/ Lots of interesting stuff, including ways to introduce electronics to youngsters. There is even one contest just for youth. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6166 - Release Date: 03/12/13

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Emphasis on jerk, which you probably do a lot of. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:51 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: > > I apologize to the list for this outburst. Shitboy really pissed me >off. It was a knee-jerk reaction. > > -Dave > >On 03/13/2013 02:58 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> What's angering me is the unbelievable shit you just spewed at a man >> whom I consider a friend. >> >> You don't have to do what I tell you. I'm quite certain your days on >> this list are numbered. One does not say shit like that and get away >> with it. >> >> And as for my "little threat"...show up. Make my day. >> >> Fucking dirtbag. >> >> -Dave >> >> On 03/13/2013 02:52 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> What's angering you at this point, I don't know. Regardless you don't >> have the authority to ban me, nor tell me what to do. >> >> And as for your little threat, not likely Dave. Not very likely. >> Truly adolescent besides little man. >> >> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:43 AM PDT Dave >> McGuire wrote: >> >>> >>> Ok, THAT'S IT. Get the FUCK off of this list. >>> >>> NOW. >>> >>> I would beat the living daylights out of you if you were anywhere >>> nearby. On your front lawn, in front of your wife. >>> >>> Jackass. >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> On 03/13/2013 02:27 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue >>> the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. >>> >>> Are you as disturbed when parents have no choice but to have >>> their children's impressionable minds addled with exhibitions of >>> cross dressers? What about little girls who are understandably >>> uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a screwed up little boy who >>> wants to think he's a girl??? AND ARE THREATENED WITH PUNISHMENT >>> IF THEY DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Does that bother you as much??? A >>> whole freaking day later you're still wining???!!! Why do people >>> get so blown out by a little comment??? if I'm required to be a >>> vegetable that has to walk on egg shells for fear of offending >>> some little deviant, let the mods ban my account. Which just >>> might speak volumes, seeing numerous individuals spout off with >>> explitives, but "fag" or "homo", oh no don't ever utter those >>> words. >>> >>> And in the interim Brian, go strait to Hell where you belong. >>> You and the rest of the FAGS, the ACLU, and all the other weirdos >>> who defend and promote diseased, aberrant behavior. Those that >>> want to victimise the most vulnerable amongst us. Go to Hell, go >>> to Hell, go to Hell. And yes I though it was necessary. >>> >>> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 10:46 AM PDT >>> Brian Knittel wrote: >>> >>> The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney >>> Fag" comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the >>> person at that time so didn't see the most recent example. >>> >>> Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best >>> response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the >>> childish rants or not. >>> >>> No comment or argument from this group is going to have any >>> effect other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, >>> barring that, just don't reply to anything. Simple. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA >> >> >> > > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA

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Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by enrico.lazzerini＠email.it

Hi all, I did not think that my request for help would have so many people interested. First of all, I do have ONLY the 820-II motherboard without houses, or anything, and it does not have any FDC chip on its board. I got curious and found the document 610P72384_820-II_Technical_Reference_1984 available here http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/xerox/820-II/610P72384_820-II_Technic al_Reference_1984.pdf . On the schematics on page 60 and the following there is no trace of any FDC. On page 57 the manual says that the connector for floppy disk is a dual personality depending on the type of daughterboard installed in the motherboard ... but I not have ever seen it. From the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9OwwolhLuE at minute 0:15 you can see a card that could be a controller. Does anyone know its exact code? On page 30 of the same document document 610P72384_820-II_Technical_Reference_1984 is specified the connection between the J1connector (37 pin D-type) and the controller SA 14030 (which i have with me but has huge dimensions in order to enter the houses of the xerox): names assigned to the wires connection seems that a protocol would been used but do not know what ... maybe SCSI?? In addition at pages 48 and 49, the same connector is used to connect the board with drive 5 "and 8" drives and here the names on the connecting wires are the same used with the classic drives. Thanks in advance for any useful info. Enrico

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I live in New Jersey where you're from little tough guy. You know the way. And what do I care who's your friend??? I'm supposed to continuously abide by the attacks against me, and your threats little punk. I don't think your enough man to take me on. Not that I find your petty threat the least bit credible. How pathetic. Yes little man you've given them enough reason for them to ban me. Congratulations for throwing gasoline on the match, from the getgo. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:58 AM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: > > What's angering me is the unbelievable shit you just spewed at a man >whom I consider a friend. > > You don't have to do what I tell you. I'm quite certain your days on >this list are numbered. One does not say shit like that and get away >with it. > > And as for my "little threat"...show up. Make my day. > > Fucking dirtbag. > > -Dave > >On 03/13/2013 02:52 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> What's angering you at this point, I don't know. Regardless you don't >> have the authority to ban me, nor tell me what to do. >> >> And as for your little threat, not likely Dave. Not very likely. >> Truly adolescent besides little man. >> >> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:43 AM PDT Dave >> McGuire wrote: >> >> >> Ok, THAT'S IT. Get the FUCK off of this list. >> >> NOW. >> >> I would beat the living daylights out of you if you were anywhere >> nearby. On your front lawn, in front of your wife. >> >> Jackass. >> >> -Dave >> >> On 03/13/2013 02:27 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue >>> the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. >>> >>> Are you as disturbed when parents have no choice but to have >>> their children's impressionable minds addled with exhibitions of >>> cross dressers? What about little girls who are understandably >>> uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a screwed up little boy who >>> wants to think he's a girl??? AND ARE THREATENED WITH PUNISHMENT >>> IF THEY DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Does that bother you as much??? A >>> whole freaking day later you're still wining???!!! Why do people >>> get so blown out by a little comment??? if I'm required to be a >>> vegetable that has to walk on egg shells for fear of offending >>> some little deviant, let the mods ban my account. Which just >>> might speak volumes, seeing numerous individuals spout off with >>> explitives, but "fag" or "homo", oh no don't ever utter those >>> words. >>> >>> And in the interim Brian, go strait to Hell where you belong. >>> You and the rest of the FAGS, the ACLU, and all the other weirdos >>> who defend and promote diseased, aberrant behavior. Those that >>> want to victimise the most vulnerable amongst us. Go to Hell, go >>> to Hell, go to Hell. And yes I though it was necessary. >>> >>> ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 10:46 AM PDT >>> Brian Knittel wrote: >>> >>> The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney >>> Fag" comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the >>> person at that time so didn't see the most recent example. >>> >>> Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best >>> response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the >>> childish rants or not. >>> >>> No comment or argument from this group is going to have any >>> effect other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, >>> barring that, just don't reply to anything. Simple. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA >> > > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

What's angering you at this point, I don't know. Regardless you don't have the authority to ban me, nor tell me what to do. And as for your little threat, not likely Dave. Not very likely. Truly adolescent besides little man. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:43 AM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: > > Ok, THAT'S IT. Get the FUCK off of this list. > > NOW. > > I would beat the living daylights out of you if you were anywhere >nearby. On your front lawn, in front of your wife. > > Jackass. > > -Dave > >On 03/13/2013 02:27 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> >> Who's exhibiting adolescent behavior but the people who continue the bleating 24 hours nearly after the issue is resolved. >> >> Are you as disturbed when parents have no choice but to have their children's impressionable minds addled with exhibitions of cross dressers? What about little girls who are understandably uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with a screwed up little boy who wants to think he's a girl??? AND ARE THREATENED WITH PUNISHMENT IF THEY DARE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Does that bother you as much??? A whole freaking day later you're still wining???!!! Why do people get so blown out by a little comment??? if I'm required to be a vegetable that has to walk on egg shells for fear of offending some little deviant, let the mods ban my account. Which just might speak volumes, seeing numerous individuals spout off with explitives, but "fag" or "homo", oh no don't ever utter those words. >> >> And in the interim Brian, go strait to Hell where you belong. You and the rest of the FAGS, the ACLU, and all the other weirdos who defend and promote diseased, aberrant behavior. Those that want to victimise the most vulnerable amongst us. Go to Hell, go to Hell, go to Hell. And yes I though it was necessary. >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 10:46 AM PDT Brian Knittel wrote: >> >> The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney Fag" >> comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the person at that >> time so didn't see the most recent example. >> >> Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best >> response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the childish >> rants or not. >> >> No comment or argument from this group is going to have any effect >> other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, barring that, >> just don't reply to anything. Simple. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Yes Chuck I enjoyed and appreciate your inputs over the years also. But there's just too much going wrong with the fucking world to just sit idly by. That's the price that has to be payed I guess. Thanks for the kind words though. Bound to be a lot more then I'll get from anyone else. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 11:59 AM PDT Chuck Guzis wrote: >Sorry Chris, you just made my permanent spam filter. Too bad, it might have been fun.

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Guys.

by fraveydank＠gmail.com

Don't feed the troll. It's simple. If this list is run like any other I've been on, the troll will be gone soon anyway. - Dave

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OT: cctalk email

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

>Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:32:01 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mouse < mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG > > >> Why is it that Allison's response to Enrico's CP/M query arrived at >> my ISP's mailserver on March 11, at 19.18.10 and Enrico's original >> mail arrived on March 12 at 00.26.08? > >In that specific case, I can't say. But see below. > <snip> >In this case, the most plausible explanation that comes to mind is that >the response you saw was sent out to both you and the list, and that >mail fromk the list to you is delayed - perhaps you're late on the >list, perhaps there's something about the mail path between the list >and you, I don't know. Thus, Enrico sends to the list. Allison gets a >copy quickly. Allison replies to you and the list. You get the >off-list copy. Then you get the list copy of Enrico's mail. Later, >you get the list copy of Allison's mail; perhaps you ignore it, perhaps >your software notices it's a duplicate and silently hides it from you, >I don't know. There must be a different explanation. I get the list in digest form. Allison's response was in one digest and Enrico's question was in a second, _Later_ digest. Bob

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Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

The list member's "homos" comment is in addition to the "Barney Fag" comment a few weeks ago. I put in a filter to delete the person at that time so didn't see the most recent example. Recognizing that we're dealing with an adolescent boy, the best response is to ignore him, whether the post is one of the childish rants or not. No comment or argument from this group is going to have any effect other than to please him. A filter makes this very easy, barring that, just don't reply to anything. Simple.

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long shot - need k a few keys/pots for Franklin PC 8000

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I'll likely pull it out of storage today, and try to provide more details.

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long shot - need k a few keys/pots for Franklin PC 8000

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I'll likely pull it out of storage today, and try to provide more details.

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Spare Keys for DECwriter III?

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Also included in my recent haul of DECquipment was a DECwriter III printing terminal. This is believed to be functional, but missing the "N" key and the outermost key in the low left (adjacent to CTRL and SHIFT, is that "ALT"? "NO SCL"?). Just asking if anybody got those as spares from an old junker and might be persuaded to part with them. TIA, yours sincerely, Arno

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My Atari 800XL on YouTube

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:41 AM PDT Terry Stewart wrote: >I'd love an Atari 800 but its successor is OK too. (-: >http://youtu.be/rxmcUVYECJg > >Terry (Tez) Another excellent vid Terry. Just avoid 400s though. Unless you keep a ball peen hammer on hand with which to type.

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cctalk Digest, Vol 115, Issue 25

by FRED＠miser.misernet.net

>From: IN%"cctalk at classiccmp.org" 12-MAR-2013 20:00:02.92 >To: IN%"cctalk at classiccmp.org" >CC: >Subj: cctalk Digest, Vol 115, Issue 25 >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:00:54 +0000 >From: John Many Jars <john at yoyodyne-propulsion.net> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS >Message-ID: > <CAEvVyqF1W3dwMt_PEXFKS_Y7sRWeYK6=KymhHZVxpx=FL-+OOg at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >copy con edlin? *ducks* I also like the other Dave's XEDIT suggestion! :) Fred

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My Atari 800XL on YouTube

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

I'd love an Atari 800 but its successor is OK too. (-: http://youtu.be/rxmcUVYECJg Terry (Tez)

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Jornadas was Re: DEC Pro 380 vs VAX 8800 console

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:42 PM PDT mc68010 wrote: >On 3/12/2013 9:33 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:03 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> I don't know offhand, but amusingly, I know that seller well. That's >> a surplus place that I used to shop at every Saturday when I lived in >> Maryland. I haven't been there in about twelve years, but it was >> AWESOME the last time I was there. He was never really open to the >> public, but a group of us would go every weekend and drop way too much coin. >> I can believe it. 90$ for a Jornada??! >> >I once bought a Jornada for no other reason than to impress the woman I >was out on a lunch date with. I think I used it twice. It was the dotcom >days. I had more money than sense. I still have the stupid thing in a >drawer somewhere. The date went ok though. Did you marry her? I happen to like them. it's HP mon. I just don't think they command that much. Yes I do recall them being the rage back then. I even have a monochrome 360lx or something that I won for 1$ a couple of years ago. Like a fool I somehow plugged the wrong p/s in and started to smell caps. Haven't gotten around to opening it (if that's even practical). They're nifty.

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Putr and tu58 problems

by g-wright＠att.net

I'm trying to read some tu58 tapes with PUTR. mount dd0: com1:9600 /drive:0 It finds the drive and just cycles the tape back and forth with out any errors, forever. . If I remove the tape, it errors on device not ready. Watching the LEDs on my Serial cable break_out there is activity on both line 2 then 3 as the tape cycles back and forth. I have used the same drive on a PDP11 to read the directory on some of the tapes with out any problems. what am I doing wrong here. - Jerry

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think of buying Altair 8800 remake

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

I am think of buying an Altair 8800 remake ? --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Child of the Internet born 1983 PGP DA98 A195 06AD 1330 7EB0??50C3 724C 9974 A7EF 6006 Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks

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OT: cctalk email

by cclist＠sydex.com

I know this has probably been addressed at some time in the past, but I'm still bedaferated. Why is it that Allison's response to Enrico's CP/M query arrived at my ISP's mailserver on March 11, at 19.18.10 and Enrico's original mail arrived on March 12 at 00.26.08? Is Allison really prescient? Does the order that posts arrive in my email have anything to do with the order in which they were sent? Just curious, not really pitching about it. --Chuck

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Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:34 PM PDT Fred Cisin wrote: >"There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: >religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin." -Linus >(but not Torvalds. That's a RELIGION) The actual adage was undoubtedly invented by someone that wanted to shut down legitimate discussion. People don't want to be challenged, don't want to change (intrinsic in that is to be shown they're wrong), don't want their ideas challenged by facts. Let's just agree not to talk about Microsoft though, because they are like a god to me.

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Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04 PM PDT geneb wrote: >On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: > >> On 03/12/2013 03:24 PM, David Riley wrote: >>> As for other, less-fundamentalist religious people... well, according >>> to a number of leading figures from various religions, because I do >>> not share their myth, I am less than human: >>> >>> ...and all this has exactly NOTHING to do with vintage computers, so please, ALL OF YOU, go fight somewhere else. >> >> Better said than I could have. The only religions we need to talk >> about here are those of DEC, IBM, HP and a few others. We can all >> be polytheists when it comes to our electric sand. >> >> EMACS!!! >> >WordStar > > >Non-Document Mode. > > >Biatch. > >g. Can I be one of them too Genie?? Can I be that kind of pal to you just like Davey? You big strapping Great White Northern Top Gunner you! (And *if* that doesn't sound gay to you, there's something wrong...) > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. >Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

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Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >On 03/12/2013 03:25 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> I have communicated privately with "Chris Tofu". I know him to be >>> a nasty, bigoted, hate-filled fundamentalist - and really very >>> stupid to boot. So all I wish to do is shut him up. >> >> >> Oddly enough, that perfectly describes both my assessment of and my >> desire concerning you. >> >> Please stop rationalizing your bigoted spew and shut the fuck up. >> >> >> Doc >> >> I mean really. I did approach him in a friendly manner, for the >> purpose of engaging in friendly debate. And it would seem he just >> couldn't handle it. I cannot understand why the discussion turned so >> vitriolic. I'll extend the olive branch once more, and even apologize >> fully for earlier comments. But like doc said you really need to shut >> that little trap once in a while Liam. > > There goes Chris, "extending his 'olive branch'" again. > > ("So THAT'S what they're calling it now!") > > -Dave > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA Please. Don't give them any ideas... AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN LITTLE!!!

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5151 needed...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

I'm looking to find a good, working IBM 5151 monochrome display and a PC/XT keyboard for a restoration I'd like to finish. If you've got one or both, please contact me off list. Thanks! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

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Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by rrissell＠gmail.com

On 3/11/2013 11:37 AM, Enrico Lazzerini wrote: > > Hi, I received a Xerox 820-II mainboard. I've found that does not have a > FDC > > on board and that the 37-pin connector used to connect the floppy disk it > > seems to have a bus and its own protocol to talk to an external FDC board > > outside. Is there anybody who knows more and is it there a way to try to > > connect and operate the drive with this mainboard? > > > > Having cleaned the heads, about every other disk going through a box of > 8" 820 disk, sthere is nothing in the drive other than the drives and a > power supply. I am not sure if the 820-II is different but, I doubt it. > The cable just splits off to each drive. Everything is on the mainboard. > Years ago I had a 820-II with both the 8086 daughter board and a drive case with 8" floppy and HD (All of 3MB). As I recall the protocol was SASI (hence the heavily-shielded 37-pin cable).

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Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:49 AM PDT Mike Loewen wrote: >On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Liam Proven wrote: > >> As for other, less-fundamentalist religious people... well, according >> to a number of leading figures from various religions, because I do >> not share their myth, I am less than human: > > ...and all this has exactly NOTHING to do with vintage computers, so please, ALL OF YOU, go fight somewhere else. I happen to agree Mike. But some people can't refrain from complaining about every little thing. Incidentally I found myself a bit perturbed over the long drawn out discussion of slide rules, was tempted to say something once or twice, but kept my mouth shut. But others... >Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us >Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

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Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:00 AM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >On 03/12/2013 01:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 12 March 2013 17:19, Mouse <mouse at rodents-montreal.org> wrote: >>> Also Home Depot and Lowes, though Lowes insist on being homos lately. >> >> "homos"? I'm having trouble thinking what that could possibly mean >> here; none of the meanings I've come up with make sense in this context. >> >> It's hate-speech. Short for "homosexual" and used as a generic insult. >> His excuse being that his magic sky-pixie tells him to hate gay >> people, making both him and his religion loathsome. > > I have the same magic sky-pixie. Said sky-pixie doesn't tell ME to >hate gay people. Hating gay people is about PEOPLE, nothing more. Lots >of people use religion to justify all sorts of shitty behavior. > > BTW...Religion is not the same as belief. Personally, I have the >latter, but precisely ZERO of the former. > > So, please watch yourself, and your assumptions. "Homos" is no more >"hate speech" than "magic sky-pixie", etc. > > -Dave Uh boy I was hoping this wouldn't continue. But certain drama queens refuse to let a meaningless litle comment go unpunished. sniff. Let's examine this hatred for just a moment. Would a "hater" call up a NATIONAL radio show, and proclaim TO THE NATION that I thought it was unfair for Adam Smith to be discharged from his position after that little escapade at a drive through. ONLY AFTER stating I was FURTHER TO THE RIGHT on the issue of gay "rights", gay "marriage", and gay acts (ewww) in general. I don't tolerate, accept, nor celebrate deviant behavior, but I can be fair to people at the same time. So that is the extant of my hatred for homos. And speaking of little FAGGOTS - in this context grown men who insist on acting like prissy little girls, Liam you are now officially A LIAR. What happened to all this talk of ignoring my posts??? Seemingly you can't wait for me to post something. I'm kind of feeling stalked at this point.

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Price estimate on Altair 680b enclosure Optima ES case

by rwhyre+cctalk＠picrad.com

I'm looking for an enclosure for a vintage-style computer, and I'm hoping to get an estimate for the Optima ES case used for the Altair 680b, among other things. Has anyone on the list ordered one of these recently?

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Flextra BR-3020 or BR-3225 25/50MB Floppy Drive

by robin＠hx-20.com

Does anyone have a Brier Technology BR-3020 or BR-3225 high capacity floppy drive I could borrow please? Thanks Robin

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Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:37 AM PDT Enrico Lazzerini wrote: >Hi, I received a Xerox 820-II mainboard. I've found that does not have a FDC >on board and that the 37-pin connector used to connect the floppy disk it >seems to have a bus and its own protocol to talk to an external FDC board >outside. Is there anybody who knows more and is it there a way to try to >connect and operate the drive with this mainboard? > >Regards > >Enrico I have a 16/8. I could take some pictures of the innards later in the week. Mine is different (obviously) - has 1 5 1/4" floppy drive, and a hard disk.

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Wanted: Proof of Sale, HP PA 7100LC or Motorola 88110 Sold before August 16, 1994

by michael＠almegacy.com

I will pay up to $1,000 for original documentation that shows proof of purchase of a computer system containing either a Hewlett Packard PA 7100LC microprocessor or a Motorola 88110 microprocessor that was sold in the United States of America before August 16, 1994. This applies to computer systems or to the microprocessors (PA 7100LC or Motorola 881100). Proof of sale is an original sales receipt or other original paperwork that proves that the system was purchased in the USA before 8/16/94. If you still have the original system or microprocessor, I would also be interested in purchasing it for fair market value. Known systems that used the microprocessors of interest in the timeframe of interest are listed below: Motorola 88110 Microprocessor: ? Motorola MVME197DP or MVME197SP single board computers ? Motorola 900, 900R workstations ? Harris Real Time Unix Servers: Harris Night Hawk 5000 series (5800) ? Data General AViiON AV 9500, AV8500, AV550, AV500 ? Omron Luna88K Hewlett Packard PA 7100LC processor ? 9000 E-class business servers (Models E25, E35, E45, E55) ? 9000 Series 700 Models 712/60 and 712/80i ? 9000 Models 715/64, 715/100, 725/100 ? 9000 Model 743 or model 748i ? HP 3000 Series 9X8 servers such as HP 3000 Series 918 LX, HP 3000 Series 918 RX ? HP 3000 Series 928LX ? HP 3000 Series 928RX ? HP 3000 Series 968LX ? HP 3000 Series 968RX ? HP 3000 Series 978LX ? HP 3000 Series 978RX

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PDP 11/23 advice

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote: > (...) The box appears to contain a complete 11/23 boardset! > I've wanted a PDP 11 for some time, so needless to say, it would be great > to make an actual PDP 11/23 out of the boards. Ooh, how things happen. Opposite problem here - I went to collect a promised 11/23 last weekend that was surplus to a university collection, what I got was a shell with power inlet, power supply, fans and backplane, but not a single board left within. This was to become my first pdp ever, so I'd also like to complete it and have it running... (Shipping the case would have been a problem anyway as I'm located in Germany). > I'd also need a disk at some point, but for now that's out of scope. Included in my haul were three RL01 and one RL02, the last one even including a pack. One of the '01s seems to be quite early, its white indicator/ID plug bears just the ID "0" in small type while the others have their IDs (2x "0", 1x"1") in large type and the word "READY" below, and it doesn't have the cover release access port on the right, so I don't even know whether there is a pack in that one too yet. Needless to say, an even larger problem to ship. (Shameless plug: I didn't get any cabling for the RLxx drives, just one terminator was included, so I'm in the market for some excess cables, perhaps a second term if I want to make them into two chains sometime, and "2" and "3" ID plugs if I want to make them into one long chain. Everything preferably from within continental Europe for ease of handling.) So long, Arno

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looking for a Sanyo MBC-775

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Send me an e-mail please.

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CP/M load question

by ajp166＠verizon.net

On 03/11/2013 02:01 PM, Enrico Lazzerini wrote: > Hi at all, I'm sorry I'm not very prepared and my English is basic. > > I have a mainboard with CPU Z80 derived from the famous Ferguson Big Board 1 > (that i have working fine). It has a CPU Z80A running at 4MHz, 64KByte DRAM, > FDC 1797 with external data separator FDC9228BT. It equipped with its own > BIOS that is loaded into memory at address F800H but it not has the > operating system CP/M. > > > > If instead of his eprom i insert the firmware coming from Ferguson Bigboard > 1 (which is loaded into memory at address F000H) that has FDC 1771 it run > properly loading the operating system CP/M 2.2. I looked in my experience > and modified the CP/M loader and CBIOS to point at the entry points of the > bios at F800H, so the loader loads into memory correctly ALL the CCP, the > BDOS and CBIOS, but it not complete the boot CP/M with the prompt (the error > that comes to me is: track 2 sector 1 not found. it is an area where > normally there is no CP/M code and that it is regularly read with a simple > read command available from the firmware). This is difficult as the problem is clear that you have a FDC related hardware issue. The error occurs when CP/M starts up and attempts to "log the disk in" or generate a map of the directory. Its failing to read a valid directory likely due to the differences between 1771 and 1797 or possibly a bad sector on the media. Note the directory must be cleared (initialized) to all 0xE5. I cannot say what emulator would work best for you. I debug problems like this using a resident monitor rom and instrumented code (lots of messages). Allison > > > I ASK FOR: Anybody has any idea? Is there a Z80 emulator where I can load > the BIOS and i can try to load the operating system CP/M to see what type of > problem? > > > > Regards > > Enri > >

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PDP11/83 power up results - Thanks to members of cctalk who helped

by ddsnyder＠zoominternet.net

To all who provided kind assistance and advice. Finally had the time to properly power up some 11/83 Qbus cards. A KDJ-11B and 2 MSV1J's in a BA213 chassis, formerly a DECserver 550. The following is the power messages. ----------------------------------------------------- Testing in progress - Please wait Memory Size is 4088 K Bytes 9 Step memory test Step 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Starting automatic boot Trying MU0 Message 14 Non existent controller, address 17774500 Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test. Type a command then press the RETURN key: LIST Device Unit name numbers Source Device type DU 0-255 CPU ROM RDnn, RXnn, RC25, RAnn DL 0-3 CPU ROM RL01, RL02 DX 0-1 CPU ROM RX01 DY 0-1 CPU ROM RX02 DD 0-1 CPU ROM TU58 DK 0-7 CPU ROM RK05 MU 0-255 CPU ROM TK50, TU81 MS 0-3 CPU ROM TK25, TS05 XH 0-1 CPU ROM DECNET ETHERNET NU 0-15 CPU ROM DECNET DUV11 NE 0-15 CPU ROM DECNET DLV11-E NF 0-15 CPU ROM DECNET DLV11-F Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test. Type a command then press the RETURN key: MAP 18.000 MHz CPU Options: FPA Memory Map Starting Ending Size in CSR CSR Bus Address address K Bytes address type type 00000000 - 07777776 2048 17772100 ECC PMI 10000000 - 17757776 2040 17772104 ECC PMI Press the RETURN key when ready to continue I/O page Map Starting Ending Address address 17765000 - 17765776 CPU ROM or EEPROM 17772100 Memory CSR 17772104 Memory CSR 17772200 - 17772276 Supervisor I and D PDR/PAR's 17772300 - 17772376 Kernel I and D PDR/PAR's 17772516 MMR3 17773000 - 17773776 CPU ROM 17777520 - 17777524 BCSR, PCR, BCR/BDR 17777546 Clock CSR 17777560 - 17777566 Console SLU 17777572 - 17777576 MMR0,1,2 17777600 - 17777676 User I and D PDR/PAR's 17777744 - 17777752 MSER, CCR, MREG, Hit/Miss 17777766 CPU Error 17777772 PIRQ 17777776 PSW Commands are Help, Boot, List, Setup, Map and Test. Type a command then press the RETURN key: ------------------------------------------------------- Continuing on to the next step is providing some storage media to hold RSX11M. I have a CMD SCSI controller to start with. I suppose by the time I finish SimH will look to be the easier route, but old hardware has a bit of a class to it. Dan Snyder Butler, PA USA

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TRS-80 Model 200 memory

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:38:53 +1100 From: Doug Jackson <doug at doughq.com> Hi, I have recently received and repaired a TRS-80 Model 200 machine. Woot! My query is if anybody has any experience in adding extra memory - I note that it has some sockets under it for memory expansion, but the recommended devices are 24k (A ceramic carrier with 3 x 8K chips and some decoding - Has anybody had experience using 62256 or similar parts? ----- Reply: Hi Doug, The Club100 list would probably be a better place to ask; I think Steve will be able to help you out. How'd you make out with that ROM upgrade I sent you? mike

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Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS (was: Re: PDP 11/23 advice)

by bobvines00＠gmail.com

> Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 06:09:10 -0400 > From: allison <ajp166 at verizon.net> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: PDP 11/23 advice > Message-ID: <513DAD46.2010300 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 03/10/2013 10:16 PM, David Riley wrote: >> On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, allison wrote: >> >>>> Are chassis something that pop up from time to time? Are there multiple >>>> models that will take this board set? >>> If its Qbus it's likely a suitable candidate. >>> >>> Geography defines how easy it is to find stuff. Here in MA I tend to >>> trip on it >>> and I could not even give it away. In foreign countries not so much >>> L'll bet. >> I'll repeat my previous offer (made after you mentioned you had to >> take some BA123s to the dump): If you'll ship a BA11-M, -N or -S, >> or a BA23 or BA123, I'll pay shipping and a reasonable fee. Around >> here (Philadelphia), they are surprisingly scarce (either that, or >> I'm looking in ALL the wrong places). > Either that or I look in all the right dumpsters. > > I took the 123s to the dump. Reason is crating for shipment would be > expensive. > They weight more than I can lift easily. > > BA23s are amazingly heavy as are BA11s. > > For that reason when I have excess I've always made it clear shipping is > NOT > going to happen. They just don't go in a cardboard box via UPS. > > So happens I have a complete BA11 box with cards last used it was > operational. > However shipping if out of the question, can't pay me enough to deal > with that. > > With that I'll add this... > Over the years Ive gotten a lot of systems and parts because people got > into > the hobby and found they could not deal with the space or technical issues. > I've see a lot more go to the dumpster for the same reasons. Often the > collection they have is a lot of random hardware and really short of docs. > Without documentation your not going to get far and the internet is not > all the answer. Consider that before you start. > > > Allison UPS will ship fairly large items in their cardboard boxes, but it's *expensive*. I recently received some DECmates with their RX02s (which were still in their furniture/carts). Each 3x3x3 box weighed nearly 150 pounds. The previous owner gave them to me for the price of UPS packing & shipping them. He took them to his local UPS Store and had them do everything from that point. A friend of his helped him take the stuff to the UPS Store. The items were not crated like Allison mentioned above, but were severely bubble-wrapped. Some of it was double-boxed in addition to the bubble wrap and packing peanuts. Needless to say, the UPS driver was less than thrilled about the size & weight of the boxes -- fortunately I was there to help him unload his truck. His truck was the standard size brown truck, not a tractor/trailer like they subcontract for really large items. Bob

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Apex / Avocent Outlook EL-40DT EL80DT KVM Switch Firmware

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

Anyone have any old Apex / Avocent Outlook EL-40DT or EL80DT KVM switches around that could check to see which firmware version they have, and if they happen to have firmware version 2.0.3 (or newer) do you also have the means to dump the firmware EPROM to an binary image file? Or does anyone already have a binary image file of the 2.0.3 firmware? I can't find that anywhere on the net. It appears that Apex / Avocent might have only sold the firmware update as a replacement EPROM (as part EL-80DT-FW) and didn't make the image available for download on their website. If you have one of these KVM switches the firmware version can be displayed as shown in page 52 of this manual: ftp://ftp.avocent.com/public/product-upgrades/Outlook/EL40-80DT/OL_DT_UG.pdf -Glen

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Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by enrico.lazzerini＠email.it

Hi, I received a Xerox 820-II mainboard. I've found that does not have a FDC on board and that the 37-pin connector used to connect the floppy disk it seems to have a bus and its own protocol to talk to an external FDC board outside. Is there anybody who knows more and is it there a way to try to connect and operate the drive with this mainboard? Regards Enrico

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CP/M load question

by enrico.lazzerini＠email.it

Hi at all, I'm sorry I'm not very prepared and my English is basic. I have a mainboard with CPU Z80 derived from the famous Ferguson Big Board 1 (that i have working fine). It has a CPU Z80A running at 4MHz, 64KByte DRAM, FDC 1797 with external data separator FDC9228BT. It equipped with its own BIOS that is loaded into memory at address F800H but it not has the operating system CP/M. If instead of his eprom i insert the firmware coming from Ferguson Bigboard 1 (which is loaded into memory at address F000H) that has FDC 1771 it run properly loading the operating system CP/M 2.2. I looked in my experience and modified the CP/M loader and CBIOS to point at the entry points of the bios at F800H, so the loader loads into memory correctly ALL the CCP, the BDOS and CBIOS, but it not complete the boot CP/M with the prompt (the error that comes to me is: track 2 sector 1 not found. it is an area where normally there is no CP/M code and that it is regularly read with a simple read command available from the firmware). I ASK FOR: Anybody has any idea? Is there a Z80 emulator where I can load the BIOS and i can try to load the operating system CP/M to see what type of problem? Regards Enri

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PDP 11/23 advice

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I have a H9273-A backplane gathering dust that I'll sell cheap. -Charles

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Slide Rules (was: Calculators)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

James (and Chris), I graduated in 1980, McCallum High School, Austin, Texas. We had a slide rule team, with a coach. In addition, my Biology and physics teachers all let me use slide rule for all homework and tests, giving me credit if my answer was within about 0.5% or so. Dunno whether that counts, but if so would push the date out to 1980. I did get a TI-59 (still have it, sticky keyboard and I'll bet the card reader doesn't work) middle of my senior year. That was a pleasant culture shock... I don't know that I ever saw one of the six-foot-long "supercomputers" :-) . At 20:07 -0600 3/2/13, <James> wrote: >This leads me to my belief that I was the last slide rule teacher.? >In 1975, in Ghana, .... -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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PDP 11/23 advice

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

Hi everyone, I recently obtained a box of stuff. The box appears to contain a complete 11/23 boardset! I've wanted a PDP 11 for some time, so needless to say, it would be great to make an actual PDP 11/23 out of the boards. My options appear to be purchasing a complete chassis with a backplane, power supply, and IO-- or alternatively building my own replacements for these parts. I'd also need a disk at some point, but for now that's out of scope. Can anyone comment on the feasibility of either of these options? Are chassis something that pop up from time to time? Are there multiple models that will take this board set? Alternatively, is the backplane something fancy I'd be unable to roll my own of? Cheers, - Ian Sent via mobile.

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Available retro-computing PCBs

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi There are many N8VEM PCBs remaining for the ECB systems http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/35044530/PCB%20Inventory There are about three S-100 Regular Prototyping boards (non-buffered) and about seven S-100 LAVA board PCBs http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Lava-10%20Board/LAVA-10%20Board .htm For planning purposes, I've ordered another batch of the XT-IDE V2 PCBs which should be here in late Mar 2013 http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showwiki.php?title=XTIDE+Rev2 The initial batch of twenty XT-FDC V1 PCBs will be here for the initial builders in late Mar 2013 http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showwiki.php?title=XT-FDC+Rev1 Finally, I am planning on ordering the second prototype board for the SCSI to IDE/SD (aka S2I) bridge board as soon as the PCB gets updated with all the builder feedback. Hopefully this will be in the next few days. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/62549548/S2I%20Firmware%20Status If you are interested in any of the above projects please contact me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

13 years, 3 months

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Imaging a Tape

by steve＠stephenmerrony.co.uk

What is the current best practice for creating an image of a SCSI tape in such a way that it can later be used to reliably make a replica of that tape? I have a fully functioning SCSI tape drive (via Linux at the moment) and want to image various sorts of Data General (and other) tapes safely and also duplicate a couple of them. They are in various odd formats. I can use the non-rewinding device (/dev/nrst0 etc) to get individual files off the tapes but that is tedious and writing a tape like that seems like a nightmare. I found tcopy and built it - but it expects two drives and does not deal with the drive-and-file case. Steve DG Info and Restoration Blog - http://stephen.homedns.org/dg/

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Natsemi MM5736 pinout

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Does anyone happen to have the pinout handy for a Natsemi MM5736 IC (mid-'70s)? In particular, I want to know which pin is GND. I came home with a little Novus 650 calculator yesterday, but the power switch (which switches the ground line) is dead - of course the keypad's heat-staked so before I waste time having to do surgery in order to clean switch contacts, I'd like to see if the calc looks like it might be otherwise functional. cheers Jules

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