On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
> Timing is everything. I just finished digesting Megan Gentry's and Doug
> Jones' module lists, normalizing the columns, and importing it into a
> secondary tab on a spreadsheet so that you can use VLOOKUP to
> dump any list of boards by handle number in the A-column and it fills
> out option name (KK8E, MS11...), bus type (if known), width (if known)
> and any notes about the item (taken from the module lists).
I'd like to round out my spreadsheet but the best lists are of PDP-8
and PDP-11 CPU, memory, and device controller boards. VAX
CPU boards, memory (11/750 and 11/730 nothwithstanding because
of their connection to the PDP-11/70), and CMI/MASSBUS/VAXBI/NMI, etc,
aren't as thoroughly documented. Does anyone have a good pointer to
such lists they'd like to share?
One can read a lot of handbooks to pick out a vast number of handle
numbers and option names, but it's so much easier to feed an existing
list through a text filter to append to the other, excellent-in-their-own-right
lists.
Thanks,
-ethan
I have a very nice Original Apple II System
With matching 9inch RCA Monitor
Disk II Drive
ThunderClock Plus Card
16k Language Card.
Applesoft ROMS
Will trade for a NeXT Cube System.
Will be at VCFMW/ECCC with the system
Thanks
Steve
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html has a long list of
diagnostic and system software.
Cindy Croxton
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This is not a sales pitch, I promise.
My daughter is going to be selling PCB earrings at the upcoming
ECCC/VCFMW show, as she did last year. This year, she's asked how much
a cash register would cost, so she could look "professional" (she's 9,
it's cute, I know).
So, I thought: I have a tiny CBM-compatible 2.5" printer sitting here
doing nothing, a C64 or VIC is easy to pull off the shelf, wiring up a
small LCD is no issue, and I have cartridge stock to make an autorun
cart. But, I am lacking a cash drawer. I've looked online, but I'd
rather not spend $50-100 on something that has marginal utility...
Thus, I'm wondering if someone on list has an old beat up drawer (with a
spring and solenoid) they'd be interested in offloading inexpensively or
donating...
Jim
--
Jim Brain
brain at jbrain.comwww.jbrain.com
After offering it on the list a few month ago, I place on epay now
Item 370894321537 , I ship worldwide.
-Rik
Oh don't worry I keep one, but don't need two ;)
Bring out all your NeXT/OpenStep stuff to VCFMW
Me and a few others are bringing out some systems and we plan to have a
fully operational netinfo domain going at VCFMW.
So it can be black hardware, white hardware, Anything that Runs
NeXTstep/OpenStep or documetation, tshirts you name it. Lets have NeXT
be the biggest display there this year.
> Do you have a photo of the board? If it uses a fairly generic SCSI chipset
> it might be possible to narrow it down from a photo of the board. Maybe a
> chip collector "collected" it's CPU and/or EPROM(s)?
Bruce Ray helped me alot!
He sent me a copy of the manual.
Missing microprocessors are 80186... I will dig around for components with
correct package...
Andrea
> I think perhaps that you do not understand how a PLL really operates.
> In every case that I've ever worked with, the PLL center frequency is a
> multiple of the reference. (That, for example, is why having a 3GHz CPU
> clock on your personal computer that the reference frequency is always
> much lower than that 3GHz.
well, this is not completely correct... basic PLL does simple integer
multiplication,
but higher complexity PLLs could include dividers with variable module, or
even
more complex modern PLLs use a sort of "noise shaping" to achieve a
frequency
multiplication by N.M, where N is integer part, M is fractional part, often
with a
length of 16 or 24 bits...
I'm not talking about post-dividers, the VCO really works at the fractional
frequency.
By the way, a quite simple PLL 4x with a post-divider x3 could do the job.
PLL will try to keep aligned the edges of the reference signal with the
edges of the regenerated signal; but not all the edges could be aligned at
the same time,
because the frequency ration is not integer.
We have a situation like this, without a proper signal to reset the PLL
counter always in the same disc position, PLL will align randomly in one of
the following ways (number is a pulse, - is stable signal):
original 12 sector:
---0---------------1---------------2---------------3---------------4---------------5---------------6---
case 1 16 sector (0, 3, 6, etc are aligned):
---0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5-----------6-----------7----------8---
case 2 16 sector (1, 4, 7, etc are aligned):
-------N-----------0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5-----------6----------7---
case 3 16 sector (2, 5, 8, etc are aligned):
----------N-----------N-----------0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5------
Of course the random choice of the pulse that will be aligned could let the
regenerated sector position shift by 1/3 of 2/3 of the original 12-sector.
> Slots in the hub ring.
> There are actually 13 and 17, one extra midway between the 12'th and
> 1'st for the index.
Ah-haaa! THAT added pulse should be used to solve the phase alignment
uncertain, thus starting to align always with the first sector!
Beside the digital implementation using microprocessors, that would have
an implicit problem of delay, cause by software latencies,
I would prefer a true PLL implementation, with a VCO driven at 4N the
reference signal, and a post-divider by 3N. As frequency of the pulses is
quite low,
a VCO working at higher frequency (always multiple of 4) could be preferable
for component choice, and a bigger divider (correspondent multiple of 3)
could
reduce the amount of jitter and offer a faster lock time.
The circuit could be simply realized using a 4046 CMOS as PLL/VCO and
a couple of dividers like 4040, 4024.
Andrea
Time for //GS monitor repair! :oD
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64631297/1.jpghttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64631297/2.jpg
I fixed my monitor and a friend's one. But both needs replacement of
flyback transformer. His can be fixed with a new focus divider, but mine was
already repaired (and the guy did a very poor job). Maybe anyone here knows
a source of replacement flyback transformers for this monitor. This is the
Applecolor RGB monitor, A2M6014, mitsubishi-sourced.
Thanks!
Alexandre Souza :o)
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[this message went out Friday to the N8VEM-S100 list but may have some
interest on CCTALK too. We are at 50% to enough S-100 80286 CPU board
pre-orders for a "production" PCB order. There are a few of the S-100 6502
CPU V2 boards left but the stack is shrinking fast.]
Hi
Some really great news today! Yahoo!
First, the S-100 6502 CPU V2 boards arrived! Yay! I will be sending them
out to those who pre-ordered first thing!
Second, at long last (assuming no more changes) the S-100 80286 CPU board
finished trace route optimization! This board is almost old enough to vote
it has been optimizing for so long. I am very happy to see it finally
emerge out of the basement computer. It is ready for "production" so if you
would like to get one or more of these exciting new S-100 80286 CPU boards
please do the new usual pre-order. I will set aside your board so you get
them right away!
Yay! Good news Friday!
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Hello.
I have a Zetaco SCZ3-2 board, probably a SCSI controller for Data
General machines.
This board seems to be in good shape, but unfortunately two square
sockets (for microprocessor I think)
are empty; anyway I could try to find a suitable replacement, if I only
knew what kind of IC is needed for.
I didn't find also any documentation or information about it.
Anybody has such board or could supply some info?
Thanks
Andrea
The seller is willing to send internationally, including EU and Brazil J
They will use your shipping number if you have one, or add freight costs to
the PayPal invoice.
Any customs fees, etc will be responsibility of the recipient.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
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Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6641 - Release Date: 09/05/13
I hate to let this go, but it just takes up too much space in my living
room
Its a PacMan Cocktail Arcade Table, monitor has been rebuilt, light
bulbs replaced
Has a Ms. PacMan board in it. But is fully operational
Can Deliver to ECCC/VCFMW if Paid for in advance
Hi, the jack your looking for is MMJ. Looks similar to RJ but different.
Regards,
Daniel,
Sent from my iPad
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> 1. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (David Riley)
> 2. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 3. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 4. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Jan-Benedict Glaw)
> 5. Re: Looking for software archive for "DRAM Camera"
> (David Ryskalczyk)
> 6. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Tony Duell)
> 7. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tony Duell)
> 8. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tony Duell)
> 9. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Tony Duell)
> 10. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Alexandre Souza)
> 11. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (David Riley)
> 12. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Peter Corlett)
> 13. Re: FS: 1200 baud external modem (Tothwolf)
> 14. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 15. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 16. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 17. Teletype Corp. motors (Jules Richardson)
> 18. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Richard)
> 19. Re: PNG image decompression (Andrew Burton)
> 20. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 21. Re: Toshiba CD-1000C Cartridge Tape Drive (Paxton Hoag)
> 22. Shameless push: HP 82231C Viper board on ebay (Rik Bos)
> 23. Looking for some basic, older tech... (Jonathan Katz)
> 24. Rare opportunity for IC chips dating back to the 70s; these
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:46:27 -0400
> From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <F6678946-DB72-48FD-B637-B53DD092AE0D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
> technically an RJ11 (that refers to not only the plug style,
> but also the wiring scheme; in particular, RJ11 specifies 6P2C,
> while RJ14 specifies 6P4C, but neither of them are necessarily
> RJ-anything).
>
> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:04:43 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>
>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>
>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>
>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>
>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:11:51 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuPHRVrNit1wqH2txJfvZho79YmwawJDdkbTk41o3H5jCg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> By the way, the M7014 and M7014-YA are only different in that the -YA has
> on board terminators, I think.
>
> The VT!! backplane is the weirdest unibus backplane I ever saw. It's a 4
> slot backplane with 3 hex boards in it, plus unibus in and out. Be very
> careful installing it. Think about it...
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>>
>>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>>
>>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>>
>>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>>
>>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>>> --
>>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:49:36 +0200
> From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw at lug-owl.de>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <20130905184936.GF3218 at lug-owl.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Thu, 2013-09-05 09:02:44 -0600, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> I think it's 4p4c. However, the jacks are built so that a "smaller"
> plug will even fit into a larger jack, so a 6p6c (RJ11, RJ12, RJ13 and
> some more) will also work.
>
> MfG, JBG
>
> --
> Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de +49-172-7608481
> Signature of: Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf
> the second : f?r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B?rger.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:03:53 -0400
> From: David Ryskalczyk <d235j.1 at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Looking for software archive for "DRAM Camera"
> Message-ID:
> <CAB3bDi6yiL1DYm4iG0bAZds=-XM0Wre4mgri5MQSSyTd4_jcAg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> A quick google and I found it here:
> ftp://moscoso.org/pub/electronics/cookbook/video/index.html
> ftp://moscoso.org/pub/electronics/cookbook/video/kuckuck.zip
>
> --Dave
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, All,
>>
>> We've talked about using a 4116 or 4164 for an image sensor, as was
>> done in the days of yore when CCD image sensors were exotic and
>> expensive, and I've tracked down some info (beyond just the Ciarcia
>> Circuit Celler articles in BYTE Sep/Oct 1983), but several forum posts
>> and a Russian webpage or two point to "kuckuck.zip", which I can't
>> find online nor via archive.org.
>>
>> One former location:
>> http://www.vampyr.msk.ru/electroniks/kuckuck.zip
>>
>> Did anyone on this list happen to snag a copy? The oldest reference I
>> found to it was on a robotics forum in 1997. The newest is around
>> 2007, with a mention that other links to that file were dead even
>> then. My best guess from browsing archive.org is that the file was
>> there until 2008. It's not there now, and archive.org didn't keep a
>> copy of it.
>>
>> I decided to go digging because I did the "decapped 4116" in an Apple
>> II, 30 years ago (I still have that DRAM on my pads of ancient chips),
>> and a friend of mine has recently delved into retrocomputing on the
>> Apple II and I was telling him tales about hardware hacking the Apple.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance in tracking this down,
>>
>> -ethan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:49:42 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <m1VHecm-000J4cC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> Hi, I dont have , or cant find as I thought I did have it, the actual data
>
> Yes, the data sheet was not published in the common data book that
> included the rest of the teletext IC chipset.
>
> I thought I had the data sheet somewhere too. Doubtless it will turn up
> sometime.
>
>> sheet but I do have the Mullard Technical publication, M81-0001, "LSI
>> circuits for teletext and viedata THE LUCY GENERATION" and this has a
>> circuit diagram which shows the pinouts of the 5070 if this would help?
>
> That does sound useful. If you have it electronically, or can scan the
> page(s) with the SAA5070 pinout, could you send it to my other account at
> tony_duell at yahoo.co.uk
>
> THnaks in advance.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:55:01 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <m1VHehu-000J4dC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> No, it looks like a 4p4c to me. The first digit gives the number of
> 'positions' (the maximum number of contacts there could be), the second
> gives the number of contacts actually fitted.
>
> It's not an RJ-anything (just as the 10baseT ethenet conenctor is not an
> RJ45, it's an 8p8c, nothing more). RJ11 (or whatever) implies a
> particular set of ocnnections for telephone wiring. This can never be
> right for a keyboard.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:58:29 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <m1VHelG-000J4eC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>
> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>
>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
> name comes from.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:04:08 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID: <m1VHeqk-000J4fC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> By the way, the M7014 and M7014-YA are only different in that the -YA has
>> on board terminators, I think.
>
> One version of one of the boards (M7014?) had the GT40 firmware ROMs on
> it too. nybble-wide PROMs, I forget how big (256 locations?). All the
> boards had the positions for these ROMs, you can solder them in (or fit
> sockets) if you wnt to. There may be some bufferes to add too, but it's
> fairly obvious.
>
> I can't rememebr about bus termination, if it was an option, it'll just
> be a load of resistors to add I think
>
>>
>> The VT!! backplane is the weirdest unibus backplane I ever saw. It's a 4
>> slot backplane with 3 hex boards in it, plus unibus in and out. Be very
>> careful installing it. Think about it...
>
> Unibus In is in the normal place, Unibus Out is below it. So if it's the
> last backplane in the syustem there's no problem, just put in the M920
> jumber as usual and an M930 terminator in the slot below it. If it's the
> last backplane in a cabinet, that's no problem either, again fit the M920
> as usual and plug the Unibus ribbon cable going to the next box into the
> Unibus Out slot under the M920. But if it's in the middle of a box, you
> ahve to run a cable from the Unibus out slot to the Unibus In of the next
> backplane.
>
> -tony
>
>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>>>
>>>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>>>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>>>
>>>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>>>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>>>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>>>
>>>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>>>
>>>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>>>> --
>>>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>>>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>>>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>>>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:39:28 -0300
> From: "Alexandre Souza" <alexandre.tabajara at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <06537B162ABB4E6692D88C7470937C30 at desktaba>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> There are only 4 pages of info, but here it is...(sent to Tony)
>
> ---
> Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
> Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
>
>
>>>
>>> Hi, I dont have , or cant find as I thought I did have it, the actual
>>> data
>>
>> Yes, the data sheet was not published in the common data book that
>> included the rest of the teletext IC chipset.
>>
>> I thought I had the data sheet somewhere too. Doubtless it will turn up
>> sometime.
>>
>>> sheet but I do have the Mullard Technical publication, M81-0001, "LSI
>>> circuits for teletext and viedata THE LUCY GENERATION" and this has a
>>> circuit diagram which shows the pinouts of the 5070 if this would help?
>>
>> That does sound useful. If you have it electronically, or can scan the
>> page(s) with the SAA5070 pinout, could you send it to my other account at
>> tony_duell at yahoo.co.uk
>>
>> THnaks in advance.
>>
>> -tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:02:23 -0400
> From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <3BD92993-C255-45A6-8A7F-CF96B3BB8DC3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:58 PM, ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>>
>>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>>
>>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>>
>> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
>> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
>> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>
> Given what everyone has said, that's probably true, though I thought
> the jack was wide enough to accomodate a 6P plug (the ones that are
> actually attached to the keyboards are 4P, though). I have quite a
> few in my basement, but I can't go down to look just now.
>
>>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>>
>> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
>> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
>> name comes from.
>
> Fascinating... that's probably the most useless specification I've
> seen in a while, considering that most Europeans have no need to
> know a damned thing about FCC regulations.
>
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:05:19 +0100
> From: Peter Corlett <abuse at cabal.org.uk>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <20130905200518.GA11954 at mooli.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 04:28:27PM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>> In 17/11/2011 Tony Duell asked for the datasheet of SAA5070. Did yo got it,
>> Tony? I'm looking for it too.
>
> There's a little bit of information on pp. 166-169 of this PDF that I found
> rattling around:
>
> http://abuse.mooli.org.uk/1982_Signetics_MOS_Microprocessor_Data_Manual.pdf
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:05:48 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: FS: 1200 baud external modem
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051448130.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Charles wrote:
>
>> FS: one "BSR 1207" external modem. New in the (very old) box. I assume
>> it's 1200 baud. Runs on 120 vac. Can send pic to interested parties. $5
>> plus shipping (probably around $3-4, it's light) from US zip 65775.
>
> Going from my modem doc archives, I think this modem was made by
> Capetronic and is a model MD1207. I'm pretty sure you are correct about it
> being 1200 baud. In fact, if you search down for 1207 in this list you'll
> find it listed:
> http://cd.textfiles.com/pcmedic/main/referenc/text/modem_s.txt
>
> BSR (Birmingham Sound Reproducers) had remarketing division that in the
> mid to late 1990s would buy low end and nearly obsolete computer upgrade
> type parts (cdrom drives, sound cards, modems, etc) which would rebrand
> them with their red BSR logo and then sell them via mail order out of
> computer magazines (Computer Shopper, etc). I still have a proprietary
> interface single speed caddy-type cdrom drive and 8-bit ISA
> interface/sound card that someone I knew purchased from them in the 1990s
> who was under the impression at the time that it was a modern
> "Soundblaster" card and fast 4x cdrom drive. He got a few years use out of
> it before it was replaced with a real Soundblaster and much faster IDE
> interface cdrom drive.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:12:27 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051507000.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
>> On Thu, 2013-09-05 09:02:44 -0600, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I think it's 4p4c. However, the jacks are built so that a "smaller"
>> plug will even fit into a larger jack, so a 6p6c (RJ11, RJ12, RJ13 and
>> some more) will also work.
>
> No, generally one should not use a smaller modular plug in a larger
> modular jack. Most plugs do not have relief slots next to the outermost
> contacts and the polycarbonate plug body will permanently deform the outer
> contacts in the modular jack. This happens a lot with 8P8C (RJ45) jacks
> that people attempt to plug phones into that use 6P4C, 6P2C, etc (RJ11)
> plugs.
>
> There /are/ a few 6P type modular plugs out there that do have relief
> openings that will somewhat fit 8P8C jacks, but they are very uncommon.
> The plug fit is still loose and it isn't something the modular plug
> standards (from Bell System) ever really intended.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:18:39 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051518280.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, David Riley wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>> technically an RJ11 (that refers to not only the plug style,
>> but also the wiring scheme; in particular, RJ11 specifies 6P2C,
>> while RJ14 specifies 6P4C, but neither of them are necessarily
>> RJ-anything).
>>
>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
> That's pretty much the gist of it. I had to push very hard to get the
> RJ11, RJ45, etc stuff corrected on Wikipedia but eventually prevailed. The
> main argument had been that "well, /everyone/ calls them RJ11, RJ45, etc",
> however in the end, there was plenty of documentation on the misuse of the
> RJ (Registered Jack) nomenclature.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:51:24 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051519060.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Tony Duell wrote:
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>>
>>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>>
>>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>>
>> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
>> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
>> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>>
>>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>>
>> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
>> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
>> name comes from.
>
> The Registered Jack system/standards came out of Bell System and was used
> to replace the hard-wired system for their phones. The FCC adopted the
> Registered Jack standards into Part 68 as part of the later deregulation.
> This was well before any sort of IEC adoption of these modular connectors,
> although it looks like Wikipedia currently gets that partly wrong. Sigh.
>
> Technically a 4P4C "handset cord" plug doesn't even have a Registered Jack
> designation, since RJ11, RJ14, etc only apply to the telephone interface
> itself, but that didn't stop people from calling them RJ9, RJ10, RJ22,
> etc, similar to people calling 10P10C plugs RJ50.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:03:16 -0500
> From: Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Teletype Corp. motors
> Message-ID: <5228F194.5040002 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
>
> I found a small pile of boxed NOS Teletype corp. motors in a junk store
> earlier:
>
> small, p/n 177870 (115VAC, 3250rpm at 60Hz)
> small w/reduction gearbox, p/n 193958 (115VAC, 110rpm at 60Hz)
> medium, p/n 319392 (115VAC, 1725rpm at 60Hz)
> medium dual-shaft, p/n 337286 (115VAC, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
> medium with frame, capacitor & thermal reset, "28F motor
> unit" (3600rpm at 60Hz)
> medium dual-shaft, p/n 195801 (115V, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
> large, p/n 159739, marked as "unit motor 28C"
>
> There are a few dates which place them around the late 1960's / early
> 1970's. There's a wiring diagram in with the "28F motor unit" which claims
> to be for "CXB-1 and MU43 motor unit".
>
> Any ideas what equipment they were for? Model 28 machine, perhaps, given
> the 28C and 28F references...
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:22:40 -0600
> From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
> To: cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID: <E1VHh0i-0001LD-KW at shell.xmission.com>
>
>
> In article <CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>,
> Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>
> We talked about it on the phone, but I never got any pictures or a price.
>
> The ball is in your court.
> --
> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:38:17 +0100
> From: "Andrew Burton" <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: PNG image decompression
> Message-ID: <004501ceaa80$44836280$2efdf93e at user8459cef6fa>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Pope" <pet4032 at gmail.com>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: PNG image decompression
>
>
>> Sorry I can't help you with the PNG decompression, but I think it is
>> very cool that you are working on a new Amiga game! Do you have a
>> website for the work-in-progress details?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Apologies for the slow reply...
>
> I have just finished (as of Tuesday 3rd Sept) the ASM code to decode 16
> colour images produced by Personal Paint (Amiga). I have started adding code
> to decode 16 colour images from MS Paint - which shouldn't take long as all
> the hard work decoding the IDAT data has already been done :)
>
>
> Here's a link to a page where all the latest info regarding my game will be
> displayed.
>
> http://www.aliensrcooluk.com/mysite/glists/my_amigagames2
>
>
> You can find a list of new Amiga games on the English Amiga Board too:
>
> http://eab.abime.net/amiga-scene/68891-amiga-games-wip-released-index.html
>
>
> Mine isn't listed their yet. Once it is playable I shall ask them to add it
> to the list :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew B
> aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:15:51 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuO16pevQN5bwxnsDnEBTS3scgpqP3cf0=2+dSEDHxzdqw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Sorry Richard, that was 2 or 3 surgeries ago.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> In article <
>> CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>,
>> Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12
>> but
>>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>
>> We talked about it on the phone, but I never got any pictures or a price.
>>
>> The ball is in your court.
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:04:14 -0700
> From: Paxton Hoag <innfoclassics at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Toshiba CD-1000C Cartridge Tape Drive
> Message-ID:
> <CAL2B=mH-RopS6kXSdwZr_kw3g4-L-bwcCp8khqF5QBF+Sed0eQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>> Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!)
>> has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
>>
>> The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551
>> F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
>>
>> It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General
>> Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet
>> so far!
>
>
> I had a couple of those go through my hands. I really liked them although
> they were not successful.
>
> The hard drives were 15 meg and it would take two modules. I would be
> surprised if the tape drive was larger than 30meg.
>
> Looking forward to pictures.
>
> Paxton
> --
> Paxton Hoag
> Astoria, OR
> USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:16:50 +0200
> From: "Rik Bos" <hp-fix at xs4all.nl>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Shameless push: HP 82231C Viper board on ebay
> Message-ID: <001201ceaae1$d5558c00$8000a400$(a)xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I placed one of my Viper boards on epay, it includes manuals and software.
>
> Item: 370891646638
>
> I also placed some HP-41 Application Pac's on epay
>
> Petroleum Fluids
>
> Navigation
>
> Math
>
> Stat
>
> And others
>
>
>
> Some items are auctions other fixed price.
>
> For fixed price items I'm always open for reasonable offers.
>
>
>
> -Rik
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:07:21 -0400
> From: Jonathan Katz <jon at jonworld.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Looking for some basic, older tech...
> Message-ID:
> <CAEOZr+3-bQ-8qXdCqqr5m5YY1ksP7eHLuqAA3pn=i0MX4VNARQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> All,
>
> I'm working on my STEM outreach project, and I need some "props." These
> items can be broken, as they're supposed to be passed around and examined
> by elementary-school aged children.
>
> I'm looking for the following...
>
> Punch Cards (used, unused, scrap, etc.)
> 8" Floppy
> Paper Tape(?)
> Sextant (long shot, I know. I'm reaching out to some pilots I know.)
>
>
> --
> -Jon
> Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:23:39 -0500
> From: "Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com>
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Rare opportunity for IC chips dating back to the 70s; these
> are NEW
> Message-ID: <01ad01ceab15$10224f70$3066ee50$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> One of my recyclers has provided me with an Excel spreadsheet of IC chips
> that date back to the 1970s.
>
> All are NEW.
>
> She is willing to sell in small quantities to end users, and will accept
> PayPal for payment.
>
> Prices are by offer, there is no set pricing. Please be fair, since this is
> an experiment to see if she will let me offer other old stuff out to the end
> users.
>
>
>
> Please email me at sales at elecplus.com if you want the spreadsheet.
>
> I will include instructions for contacting her directly.
>
>
>
> Cindy Croxton
>
> Electronics Plus
>
> _____
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>
>
>
> End of cctalk Digest, Vol 121, Issue 6
> **************************************
Hi
The S-100 6502 CPU V2 PCBs have arrived!
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oard.htm
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CPU%20board%20V1
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There are still a few boards left in case there are any late comers or those
builders who did not want to pre-order.
The PCBs will be $20 each as per the usual arrangement. Shipping in the US
is $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional PCB. Shipping
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This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with no tracking or
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arrangement.
Please send a PayPal to LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM and I will send your board(s)
right away!
Please contact me if you have any questions. Thanks and have a nice day!
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So I've had a 3b2 sitting on a shelf for the past few years. Prior to
that, it lived in car trucks and basements, since about November 1993.
Presumably, it was never powered on.
A couple weekends ago, I ran across it while cleaning and, weighing the
risks, connected it to a terminal and powered it on.
It booted happily, checked its disks successfully and allowed me to add an
unprivileged user account.
It's running System V Release 3.1 for the AT&T 3B2, Version 2.
Other than the unsurprisingly dead Tadiran clock battery, it's pretty
cool. It even has an ethernet board.
The one thing I can't do, however, is change the root password because I
don't have the install diskettes. From my research, I've seen that a 3b2
without install disks can be considered "down" for all intents and purposes.
Can anyone contact me on or off list about getting originals or copies of
the install disks?
Thanks.
Anthony
All,
I'm working on my STEM outreach project, and I need some "props." These
items can be broken, as they're supposed to be passed around and examined
by elementary-school aged children.
I'm looking for the following...
Punch Cards (used, unused, scrap, etc.)
8" Floppy
Paper Tape(?)
Sextant (long shot, I know. I'm reaching out to some pilots I know.)
--
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
Hi,
I found a box with an Apple IIgs plus some bits which go with it (keyboard,
maybe an hard drive or floppy disk drive).
The Apple IIgs is an Apple II on steroids : 16 bits, up to 8 MB of RAM,
etc. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIGS
If someone is interested, drop me a mail, I'll make an inventory of what's
available.
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Stephane
One of my recyclers has provided me with an Excel spreadsheet of IC chips
that date back to the 1970s.
All are NEW.
She is willing to sell in small quantities to end users, and will accept
PayPal for payment.
Prices are by offer, there is no set pricing. Please be fair, since this is
an experiment to see if she will let me offer other old stuff out to the end
users.
Please email me at sales at elecplus.com if you want the spreadsheet.
I will include instructions for contacting her directly.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
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I placed one of my Viper boards on epay, it includes manuals and software.
Item: 370891646638
I also placed some HP-41 Application Pac's on epay
Petroleum Fluids
Navigation
Math
Stat
And others
Some items are auctions other fixed price.
For fixed price items I'm always open for reasonable offers.
-Rik
Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!) has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551 F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet so far!
Thanks, Mark
Hi,
I am in the process of working on a new Amiga game, but I have the
graphics saved in .PNG format. I could convert them to the much
easier to decompress .IFF format, but .PNG image save many more
bytes (e.g image is 15KB saved as an .IFF vs. 9KB as a .PNG).
I have sucessfully decoded all the easy stuff, but am currently trying
to decode the IDAT chunk (where the image data is stored).
The format of the data is defined as follows (straight out of the RFC1951
Deflate Compression document available online):
??? 5 Bits: HLIT, # of Literal/Length codes - 257 (257 - 286)
??? 5 Bits: HDIST, # of Distance codes - 1 (1 - 32)
??? 4 Bits: HCLEN, # of Code Length codes - 4 (4 - 19)
??? (HCLEN + 4) x 3 bits: code lengths for the code length
??? alphabet given just above, in the order: 16, 17, 18,
??? 0, 8, 7, 9, 6, 10, 5, 11, 4, 12, 3, 13, 2, 14, 1, 15
??? These code lengths are interpreted as 3-bit integers
??? (0-7); as above, a code length of 0 means the
??? corresponding symbol (literal/length or distance code
??? length) is not used.
??? HLIT + 257 code lengths for the literal/length alphabet,
??? encoded using the code length Huffman code
??? HDIST + 1 code lengths for the distance alphabet,
??? encoded using the code length Huffman code
??? The actual compressed data of the block,
??? encoded using the literal/length and distance Huffman
??? codes
??? The literal/length symbol 256 (end of data),
??? encoded using the literal/length Huffman code.
All the documents I found online either say use the zlib library or point to
the RFC1951 document :(
Does anyone know how to decode the literal / length (HLIT) and distance
codes (HDIST)?
Huffman compression was always something I found hard, but it seemed
much easier after finding this page online:
http://www.cs.duke.edu/csed/poop/huff/info/
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
I found a small pile of boxed NOS Teletype corp. motors in a junk store
earlier:
small, p/n 177870 (115VAC, 3250rpm at 60Hz)
small w/reduction gearbox, p/n 193958 (115VAC, 110rpm at 60Hz)
medium, p/n 319392 (115VAC, 1725rpm at 60Hz)
medium dual-shaft, p/n 337286 (115VAC, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
medium with frame, capacitor & thermal reset, "28F motor
unit" (3600rpm at 60Hz)
medium dual-shaft, p/n 195801 (115V, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
large, p/n 159739, marked as "unit motor 28C"
There are a few dates which place them around the late 1960's / early
1970's. There's a wiring diagram in with the "28F motor unit" which claims
to be for "CXB-1 and MU43 motor unit".
Any ideas what equipment they were for? Model 28 machine, perhaps, given
the 28C and 28F references...
cheers
Jules
FS: one "BSR 1207" external modem. New in the (very old) box. I
assume it's 1200 baud. Runs on 120 vac. Can send pic to interested
parties. $5 plus shipping (probably around $3-4, it's light) from
US zip 65775.
thanks
Charles
Hi, All,
We've talked about using a 4116 or 4164 for an image sensor, as was
done in the days of yore when CCD image sensors were exotic and
expensive, and I've tracked down some info (beyond just the Ciarcia
Circuit Celler articles in BYTE Sep/Oct 1983), but several forum posts
and a Russian webpage or two point to "kuckuck.zip", which I can't
find online nor via archive.org.
One former location:
http://www.vampyr.msk.ru/electroniks/kuckuck.zip
Did anyone on this list happen to snag a copy? The oldest reference I
found to it was on a robotics forum in 1997. The newest is around
2007, with a mention that other links to that file were dead even
then. My best guess from browsing archive.org is that the file was
there until 2008. It's not there now, and archive.org didn't keep a
copy of it.
I decided to go digging because I did the "decapped 4116" in an Apple
II, 30 years ago (I still have that DRAM on my pads of ancient chips),
and a friend of mine has recently delved into retrocomputing on the
Apple II and I was telling him tales about hardware hacking the Apple.
Thanks for any assistance in tracking this down,
-ethan
Steve,
Unfortunately No.
It is much more basic in design than that and is all metal in construction. Still am none the wiser on the device. I will try and put up a picture this weekend to see if it jogs anyones memory.
Mark
Hi,
Does it look the same as this Fujitsu-manufactured drive which was used
in the DC range of machines for a while?
http://stephenmerrony.co.uk/dg/gallery/Parts/79.html#prettyPhoto[28]/4/
/Stephen Merrony
http://www.stephenmerrony.co.uk/dg//
On 01/09/2013 09:28, Mark Darvill wrote:
> Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!) has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
>
> The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551 F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
>
> It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet so far!
>
> Thanks, Mark
>
I have somewhere a QIC60 or QIC150 tape of the TI 34010 development
software for SunOS (not Solaris). As I recall, it includes a C compiler
(must have as we were doing an X server). I'd be willing to find and send
it to someone capable of handling a 20 something year old tape not stored
in ideal conditions.
KJ
I'm looking for IBM System801 documentation and software
yet to surface. I've noticed three documents on bitsavers -
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/system801/
Anyone have anything? I would like to build an emulator.
Thanks Leon! This is great! That's three of the S-100 68K CPU boards
confirmed running "in the wild"
This board has been a long standing dream of mine so it is wonderful to see
it come to pass.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/68673583/S-100%2068k%20Running.jpghttp://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/68673581/S-100%2068k%20Comp%20Side.jpghttp://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/68000%20Board/68K%20CPU%20B
oard.htm
This is proof of what we can do together when we focus our efforts on a
goal.
There is much more to do! Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
From: n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Elsid
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:50 AM
To: n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:1864] Re: S-100 68K CPU board V3
I just got my 68k going completely, tonight.
It's has a 16MHz oscillator so it's the 68HC000P8 is running at its rated
8MHz. It seems quite stable even on the extension card.
Master slave switching is functional, so I can now switch between the Z80,
the 8086 and the 68k. I would have killed for a system like this in the
80's. I still think it's pretty cool today.
I think I've got processor fever. Which processor board is next?
I'll post some photos on the wiki soon.
John, I used your S100 Computers guide which was great - thank you. I found
a few small errors in the guide so I'll send you a list of corrections
later.
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 9:43:45 AM UTC+10, lynchaj wrote:
Hi
Has anyone gotten their S-100 68K CPU board V3 working?
I'd appreciate a status update. Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
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Clearing out in preparation for a move, Cleaning out my storage unit as
well
Commodore C64C System with Power supply, 1571 drive and 1541 Drive.
Works Good
Comes with a bunch of joysticks, box of software and printer
interfaces. 1902 Monitor Shreddz 64 Guitar Hero Interface with Guitar,
$60 dollars
Dell OptiPlex GX110 System with OpenStep 4.2 Installed 256MB RAM, 8GB
HDD, 3C905TX Ethernet Card- Just add a SB16 and you got a fully
operational and supported OpenStep/NeXTStep Box. $75 dollars
Apple II Plus System
1 Disk II Drive
Monitor ///
Monitor /// Stand
Kensington System Saver
Works Great $100
Sun Sparcstation 5 system
96MB RAM 2GB HDD
Needs OS Reinstalled
$20 dollars
Lots of Apple Extended Keyboard II's $5 dollars each
Lots of AppleDesign Keyboards $5 dollars each
Apple Color Monitor 100s' Digital RGB Monitor for Apple II's $40
dollars each, most need recapped but are otherwise in good shape
Apple Monitor //'s Yellowed but working $10 dollars each
Apple 5.25inch Disk Drives $10 dollars each tested & Working
Apple 3.5 inch Drives $10 dollars each tested & working
SCSI Cables $2 bucks each, just tell me what ya need
Vintage Rotary Telephones- Stromberg Carlson, Western Electric, ITT-
All Desktop Sets $15 bucks each Mainly in white and beige with a olive
green here and there
Commodore C112 Calculator in original carrying case, Nice shape $30 dollars
Big box of syquest 88MB, Jaz Cartridges, Syquest 270 and Zip 100 Media
$40 bucks for the box- Will ship media mail cheap- Will almost fill a
home depot medium box.
Beige PowerMac G3 with 256MB RAM, 120GB HDD, DVD. Works nice $20
dollars. Good Legacy Box to work with SCSI and IDE stuff
Echo II Speech Synthesizer Card & Speaker for Apple II $25 dollars,
lets your Apple II Speak
Misc Apple Networking- Lots of phonenet interfaces $10 dollars for a
box full
TI Silent 700 Travelmate 1200 Terminal- Works fine With AC Adapter $50
dollars
Lots more to come. PayPal accepted- eBay feedback under cheermom248,
Local Pick up is welcomed
Since we've talked about this several times before,
I should have mined our own archives better...
(from the archives, dated 2004-05-30 15:00:46)
http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=108592954702712
Thanks, Phil Pemberton, for posting a good link to it 9 years ago...
http://www.kurzschluss.com/kuckuck/kuckuck.zip
And thanks to Martin Kurz for putting it together in the first place.
-ethan
A DEC VT78 system is available in Phoenix Arizona area. Email
vt78 at pdp8online.com if interested. I can make you some boot disks if
you need them. Email me if you need disks.
The email I received about the system:
I have an old DEC VT78 system originally used in an auto parts store for
inventory control, invoicing, office management (billing, accounts payable,
receivables). It consists of the VT78, RX?? 8" floppy dual drive, DECPrinter I,
and the cart that goes with it. The system was purchased around 1980 unless it
was the second one purchased a couple of years later (probably the one from
1980). The system is currently stored such that I cannot make out which set of
drives it has.
I had, at one time, the original docs and system disks but did some cleaning up
in the house a few years back. I am pretty sure I tossed all the manuals, data
disks, blank discs. I initially thought about saving the system disks but I
know I was debating it in my kind. I am currently preparing to move packing up
my house so I might yet come across the system disks if I did keep them.
Unfortunately, the system has not been turned on since the mid 1980s. So I am
not sure if it boots currently and the system is not in a position for me to
power it up currently. If there were interests, I probably could make the
effort to re-arrange the stuff in the garage to try to power it on.
I and the system are located in Arizona in the Phoenix area. I am looking to
get it into the hands of someone who would desire it rather than junk/recycle
it.
I've decided to sell my PacMan Cocktail Arcade machine, It never gets
used and takes up space
Has the Ms Pacman board in it
Its in good condition. Monitor has been recapped
Has Keys. and new light bulbs in and out
$600 dollars or best offer, Can Deliver to ECCC/VCFMW if paid for in
advance, Or Local Pickup in Flushing Michigan
Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for a complete development system for the TMS340{10,20}
graphics processors from Texas Instruments.
I believe the development system had:
1) an ISA card with TMS340x0, frame buffer, DAC, etc.
2) DOS driver for said card
3) development tools: compiler, assembler, etc.
4) documentation on the card and chip
Thanks!
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I have a number of Vintage P1 and PII Laptops
Most are Dell P1 Latitudes with Trackballs, All are 30 dollars each shipped
Just tell me what type your looking for and ill see if I have it
2 Nice working IBM Thinkpads
A Thinkpad 240X- Really Small ultraportable thinkpad
Needs Battery, has 192MB RAM Installed and a 30GB HDD $50 shipped
A ThinkPad 390E
64MB RAM, 12GB HDD
Running OpenStep 4.2
$100 shipped and it includes a copy of the OpenStep Installation CDs
Got the following Commodore 64 Stuff for sale
Mint Boxed Commodore 1351 Mouse with all original disk/documentation
$50 dollars shipped
Commodore 64C System
1541 Drive, 1571 Drive, 1902 Monitor
Fastload Cartridge, printer interfaces, graphics tablet, couple of
modems, box full of software
$100 dollars
BusCard IEEE 488 Interface Card for C64- allows you to hook PET Drives
to your C64
$40 shipped
IEEE Flash for C64 IEEE 488 Interface $40 shipped
Copy II 64 Disk w/ Manual $10 shipped
Isepic Clone Cartridge with Disks $30 shipped
All Prices are negotiable, would like this stuff gone before VCFMW
Howdy all,?
I have a HP 700/44 terminal that I'm trying to nurse back to operation. I've managed to get the voltages on the board back into something resembling sane values (within 10% at worst) and I do now have a raster and it beeps on power-up but I have nothing on screen. I'm working without a schematic for now and it's kinda rough going.
Anyone have a digital copy of the service manual for these 700 series terminals??
Thanks
Phil
"In a hotel room in Texas, Clive Sinclair had a big problem. He wanted
to sell a cheap scientific calculator that would grab the market from
expensive calculators such as the popular HP-35. Hewlett-Packard had
taken two years, 20 engineers, and a million dollars to design the
HP-35, which used 5 complex chips and sold for $395. Sinclair's
partnership with calculator manufacturer Bowmar had gone nowhere. Now
Texas Instruments offered him an inexpensive calculator chip that
could barely do four-function math. Could he use this chip to build a
$100 scientific calculator?"
http://files.righto.com/calculator/sinclair_scientific_simulator.html?utm_s…
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>
> Speaking of Standalone BACKUP, anyone have a copy of this? I don't
> believe later VMS properly copies VMS 1.5 off.
>
I don't know if it works as far back as V1.5 but in later versions of VAX/VMS,
the procedure was to build standalone backup on a tape or spare disk by
executing @SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT.COM on the running system.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
>Hello.
>Maybe stupid question but I'm a newby of VMS.
>I have a VS2000 with a Micropolis RD53 inside.
>I recently repaired the hard disk, and from some tests it seems to have
>no errors, so its content is safe.
>I tried to boot the machine from it, and it turns to contain a
>standalone backup.
>I would try to list the content of the disk, but from manuals I
>understand I would need to know the file names.
>How to identify the content of this disk?
>Thanks
>Andrea
The standalone backup environment is very limited. There is only one command -
BACKUP which allows backups or restores to be preformed.
If you have a tape device or another disk, you could try making a backup to it.
If you include the /LOG qualifier, you should get a list of the files on the
disk as they are backed up. Something like:
BACKUP /IMAGE /LOG DUA0: MUA0:BACKUP.SAV /SAVE
If you don't have a device to back up to, you could try backing up to the
null device which, if it works, won't make much of a backup, but it should
still list the files as they are processed:
BACKUP /IMAGE /LOG DUA0: NLA0:BACKUP.SAV /SAVE
Other than that, the other suggestions of putting the disk into a bootable
system or booting the VS2000 from the network are probably the way to go.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Clearing out in preparation for a move, Cleaning out my storage unit as
well
Commodore C64C System with Power supply, 1571 drive and 1541 Drive.
Works Good
Comes with a bunch of joysticks, box of software and printer
interfaces. Shreddz 64 Guitar Hero Interface with Guitar,
$60 dollars
Dell OptiPlex GX110 System with OpenStep 4.2 Installed 256MB RAM, 8GB
HDD, 3C905TX Ethernet Card- Just add a SB16 and you got a fully
operational and supported OpenStep/NeXTStep Box. $75 dollars
Apple II Plus System
1 Disk II Drive
Monitor ///
Monitor /// Stand
Kensington System Saver
Works Great $100
Sun Sparcstation 5 system
96MB RAM 2GB HDD
Needs OS Reinstalled
$20 dollars
Lots of Apple Extended Keyboard II's $5 dollars each
Lots of AppleDesign Keyboards $5 dollars each
Apple Color Monitor 100s' Digital RGB Monitor for Apple II's $40
dollars each, most need recapped but are otherwise in good shape
Apple Monitor //'s Yellowed but working $10 dollars each
Apple 5.25inch Disk Drives $10 dollars each tested & Working
Apple 3.5 inch Drives $10 dollars each tested & working
SCSI Cables $2 bucks each, just tell me what ya need
Vintage Rotary Telephones- Stromberg Carlson, Western Electric, ITT-
All Desktop Sets $15 bucks each Mainly in white and beige with a olive
green here and there
Commodore C112 Calculator in original carrying case, Nice shape $30 dollars
Big box of syquest 88MB, Jaz Cartridges, Syquest 270 and Zip 100 Media
$40 bucks for the box- Will ship media mail cheap- Will almost fill a
home depot medium box.
Beige PowerMac G3 with 256MB RAM, 120GB HDD, DVD. Works nice $20
dollars. Good Legacy Box to work with SCSI and IDE stuff
Echo II Speech Synthesizer Card & Speaker for Apple II $25 dollars,
lets your Apple II Speak
Misc Apple Networking- Lots of phonenet interfaces $10 dollars for a
box full
TI Silent 700 Travelmate 1200 Terminal- Works fine With AC Adapter $50
dollars
Lots more to come. PayPal accepted- eBay feedback under cheermom248,
Local Pick up is welcomed