----- Original Message -----
> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 02:08:13 -0500
> From: Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>
> I haven't looked at these since I worked with them nearly 20 years ago
> but I have ISOs of two different Toshiba "Atlas" CDs on our site here:
>
> http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/Toshiba
...
> Sorry that I can't be more definite about what they contain - it's
> been a long time!
>
> -j
>
----- Reply:
Looks like a tantalizing lot of very useful information! Thank you!
Unfortunately the installer demands a password; I don't suppose you've got
that conveniently written down somewhere?
m
Okay, couple of comments from the perspective of a long time (since
1997) US buyer and seller. The UK may be different.
Take a look at completed listings for "Bernoulli" on the UK site for the
computers/tablets catagory. The only similar drive that did sell was
sold for 23.87 pounds with 10.68 pounds postage... and was sold as
working from the US.
I see 150 drive in the US sold for $1.00 with $9.99 standard shipping.
the brief description is "USED Bernoulli Transportable Mega 150
MultiDisk Tape drive. Sold ASIS. Drive Powers up. Power cable included."
So first, can you give it a brief checkout, even if only to say the
power light does come on? From the listing checks I did, it is probably
not worth your time to do much more than that given the actual selling
prices and the few similar items sold in both the US and UK.
Second, re your description.
"I have not tested this - I used to use this type of media in the early
1990s but not since. This was my main external drive for some years, on
a 486 notebook. I have no idea if it is still working or not!"
That is fine as it tells the potential buyer almost everything they need
to know. Since the cable is kind of important, you should mention
specifically if it is included or not.
The rest of the description could be shorted up a lot... only put in
what is important to the buyer.
On heavier items, I tend to like adding the total mailing/shipping
weight. Most people have a pretty good idea of what those costs are, and
adding it to the listing helps potential buyers to know if the postage
is reasonable or not (to them.)
In the seller notes about condition, take out the "Caveat emptor." It
adds nothing but does add the idea that chances are this is junk and
conflicts with your statement that it was working when you last used it.
Your description has postage at 30 pounds while it is shown at 50 pounds
in the search listings. Does the UK have an option for calculated
shipping? And is shipping really that expensive in the UK?
You have your visitor counter not showing publicly (not a problem) so I
couldn't tell how much, if any, interest there was.
Hope this helps!
> On 8 April 2014 19:09, Liam Proven<lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Here's a portable Bernoulli drive. Again, up for 1p.
>> >
>> >http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271446708146
>
> OK, so, not a single bid. Anyone want this or should I send it to e-waste? Free!
Hi All,
Please forgive me if this is considered spam. I've seen a few messages come through the list about the 68kMLA and I am officially speaking for it.
We have had some difficulty with registrations over the last year or so due to a mix of spam, time, and a few other things. The board will be upgraded from phpBB to InvisionPower Board this weekend (on 4/19) and ETA is by the evening of Sunday. (4/20 in EST).
All data and users will be carried forward. If you've had a problem registering in the past, or would like to register please give us a try after Saturday and feel free to email <admin at 68kmla.org>
--
Tyler Saylor <admin at 68kmla.org>
68kMLA Admin Team +18127204078
Large DEC pdp setup in NY based around what appears to be 2 11/34 cpus.
Posted 5 days ago
Looking for offers
CraigsList New York/Bronx #4415348830
LARGE system with racks, boards, cables, tapes, packs, terminals,
printers, media, docs... etc etc etc...
RL01, RX01, RX05, TM11, VT525, VT100, VT180, LA50
would "like" an all in one offer but willing to piecemeal
items are in a storage unit in "Riverdale"
After posting NASA's "open source" program to this list, I decided to
download some of the "open source" software listed.
To obtain the software I had to fill out a long form: "SOFTWARE USAGE
AGREEMENT (SUA)" - which included an affirmation by me that I was a US
Citizen, etc., etc.
After filling out the form and submitting it, a few days later I got a
terse reply: "Sorry it is for government release only".
I wrote the author of the email and said that NASA had said on their
website that it was "open source". The response was:
"Thank you for your inquiry, However, STRS is labeled specifically as
Government Purpose Only software. At this time it is only available
for a Federal Government purpose use by civil servants or contractors
with a contract number. In the future, if you have need for the
software on a government contract, please feel free to contact our
office again for the software."
The author also included the following NASA Software Catalog (link
below). As you'll see, very little of the software posted on NASA's
"open source" site is actually "open source" as we know it! Most of it
is "US Government Purpose Release". There is a small subset of software
that are identified as "General Public" or "Open Source":
http://technology.nasa.gov/NASA_Software_Catalog_2014.pdf
He also included a link to this site with truly open source NASA
software:
http://code.nasa.gov/project/
While I was disappointed with NASA's response regarding their "open
source" program, at least they pointed me to the NASA software catalog
and a site with actual open source software.
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Somebody specifically asked for a Comapq 80486 desktop many months ago.
We have one in now, uses 72-pin RAM.
Who wanted it?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-792-3400 phone
830-792-3404 fax
sales at elecplus.com
AOL IM elcpls
Who else caught the last episode? In it, the spies were trying to steal
information about the ARPANET. I found it to be surprisingly technically
accurate. Could that be because of the MARCH connection?
If you haven't heard about the openssl exploit yet, you haven't been reading the news
I'm just wondering if it applies to openvms (or alpha) or other classic systems?
And if it does, is there going to be a bugfix for this?
Dan.
A possibly complete VAX 11/780 board set and four power supplies:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/s/301148171641
Anyone need a set of spares for their VAX?
--Bill
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:35:06 -0700
> From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: NASA "Open Source"....
> Message-ID: <20140415093506.69d27cf5 at asrock.bcwi.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> After posting NASA's "open source" program to this list, I decided to
> download some of the "open source" software listed.
>
> To obtain the software I had to fill out a long form: "SOFTWARE USAGE
> AGREEMENT (SUA)" - which included an affirmation by me that I was a US
> Citizen, etc., etc.
>
> After filling out the form and submitting it, a few days later I got a
> terse reply: "Sorry it is for government release only".
>
> I wrote the author of the email and said that NASA had said on their
> website that it was "open source". The response was:
>
> "Thank you for your inquiry, However, STRS is labeled specifically as
> Government Purpose Only software. At this time it is only available
> for a Federal Government purpose use by civil servants or contractors
> with a contract number. In the future, if you have need for the
> software on a government contract, please feel free to contact our
> office again for the software."
>
> The author also included the following NASA Software Catalog (link
> below). As you'll see, very little of the software posted on NASA's
> "open source" site is actually "open source" as we know it! Most of it
> is "US Government Purpose Release". There is a small subset of software
> that are identified as "General Public" or "Open Source":
>
> http://technology.nasa.gov/NASA_Software_Catalog_2014.pdf
>
> He also included a link to this site with truly open source NASA
> software:
>
> http://code.nasa.gov/project/
>
> While I was disappointed with NASA's response regarding their "open
> source" program, at least they pointed me to the NASA software catalog
> and a site with actual open source software.
>
> End of cctalk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 18
> ***************************************
>
Note that the article to which you originally referred was from Wired. I
almost didn't bother opening it for that reason - Wired has become the
National Inquirer of the tech world, IMHO - flashy headlines, questionable
content. So it doesn't surprise me that the nature of the release was not
as advertised. -- Ian
--
Ian S. King, MSCS ('06, Washington)
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I wonder if this item is still available. I could use it for my research:
Summagraphics MM1201 autocad tablet
Best wishes,
Hans
Dr. Ir. Hans Degens
School of Healthcare Science
Cognitive Motor Function Research Group
Manchester Metropolitan University
John Dalton Building; Chester Street
Manchester M1 5GD
United Kingdom
Phone: +44.161.247.5686 or +44.1270.875187
Fax: +44.161.247.5751
E-mail: h.degens at mmu.ac.uk<mailto:h.degens at mmu.ac.uk>
"Before acting on this email or opening any attachments you should read the Manchester Metropolitan University email disclaimer available on its website http://www.mmu.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer "
I just picked up a Toshiba T1000 portable and I'd like to dig into its
inner workings a little bit. I can't find a speck of documentation
online. No user guides, no service manuals, no schematics, nothin'. I'm
especially interested in a reference on the external floppy port, if
nothing else.
If anyone has any PDFs, please let me know!
-Seth
Sorry if re-post, having e-mail problems.
I received this message from Cody in Arkansas.
Please contact him if interested:
-----------------------------------------------
"My grandmother used to own a radio shack and closed it down several years ago and we have recently been going through and cleaning the building out.
We found several things including a TRS-80 model II and several, several accessories.
Let me know if you are interested in anything.
Contact: cody_stinnett at yahoo.com
Location: Arkansas
-----------------------------------------------
Very disappointed that my DS DD 40t 5.25" floppy went for just 1p,
given that people had been specifically asking in here for one, in the
UK. But better that it goes to someone at all than to the recycling,
so thanks, Roger!
And my lovely Powerbook 170 went for just ?5.50 -- under $10. :-(
Anyway...
Here's a portable Bernoulli drive. Again, up for 1p.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271446708146
There are also some more floppy drives if you look at my "other items".
--
Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile
Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884
----- Original Message -----
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 17:14:20 -0700
> From: Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com>
> I just picked up a Toshiba T1000 portable and I'd like to dig into its
> inner workings a little bit. I can't find a speck of documentation
> online. No user guides, no service manuals, no schematics, nothin'. I'm
> especially interested in a reference on the external floppy port, if
> nothing else.
>
> If anyone has any PDFs, please let me know!
>
> -Seth
----- Reply:
FWIW, here's the pinout for the external port of a T3100e:
1.1 PJ 1 PRT/FDD Connector
Table B-1 PRT/FDD connector pin assignment
(For PRT) (For EXT FDD)
Pin Signal I/O Signal I/O
1 STROBE;000 O READY;100 I
2 PD0;110 O INDEX;000 I
3 PD1;110 O TRACK0;000 I
4 PD2;110 O WPROTC;000 I
5 PD3;110 O RDDA;000 I
6 PD4;110 O DSKCHG;000 I
7 PD5;110 O -
8 PD6;110 O -
9 PD7;110 O -
10 ACK;000 I SWFDB;000 O
11 BUSY;100 I SWMONB;000 O
12 PE;100 I WRDATA;000 O
13 SELECT;100 I EXFDWE;000 O
14 AUTFD;000 O XRATE0;000 O
15 ERROR;000 I SIDE;000 O
16 PINIT;000 O FDCDRC;000 O
17 SLIN;000 O STEP;000 O
18 GND GND
25
A/B/PRT switch
- Located on right side of computer
- With switch set to "A", external FDD port is accessed as drive A;
internal .5" FDD as drive B.
- With switch set to "B", external FDD port is accessed as drive B;
internal .5" FDD as drive A.
- Switch is set to "PRT" for parallel printer output.
- Computer must be re-booted for switch change to take effect.
I have at last gotten Unix to boot to multi-user mode in FreeBee (Philip
Pemberton's 3B1/UNIX PC emulator). The fixes required are for bus error
handling (instructions were still sometimes changing memory and
registers after a page fault even though I had already partially fixed
it before; I now have it saving the registers before every instruction
and pushing those on page fault similar to what current MESS does - this
isn't actually what a real 68k does and may sometimes throw off register
dumps but it does work; I also have it using longjmp to immediately stop
any instruction that page faults), as well as zero page access (another
thing that I had tried to fix before; I had previously only allowed
reads from address 0, but some programs are expecting to read from
higher addresses in the zero page, so I now allow reads from all zero
page addresses). Another bug that I fixed was related to timing. The
emulator was way slower than real-time on the non-Linux OSes that I
tried (many of them impose a minimum on the amount of time a process can
sleep, and the emulator was depending on being able to sleep for very
short times, so I changed it to use longer sleeps). Unix would
presumably boot multi-user without this fix though.
However, the emulator is still not quite usable. The key mapping is not
quite right (one problem is that the UNIX PC has separate "return" and
"enter" keys, and there is no mapping for "enter", which is required to
accept dialogs, and there might be other important keys that are
missing). Also, neither the mouse nor the RTC are emulated yet.
Here's a screenshot:
http://imgur.com/GzWkUbs
I'll post my patches very soon.
I was in Germany for the last two weeks on a business trip. While I was in
Hannover I had a chance to meet with Philipp Hachtmann, a very enthusiastic
DEC collector. Unfortunately I only had a couple of hours to talk, not
nearly enough time to hear about his DEC experience and not enough time to
see his collection. Maybe next time I will get more time off in my schedule.
--
Michael Thompson
I received this message from Cody in Arkansas.
Please contact him if interested:
-----------------------------------------------
My grandmother used to own a radio shack and closed it down several years ago and we have recently been going through and cleaning the building out. We found several things including a TRS-80 model II and several, several accessories.??Let me know if you are interested in anything.
Contact: cody_stinnett at yahoo.com
Location: Arkansas
-----------------------------------------------?
Hi All,
I was hoping someone on the list had a good idea of where to start out
poking in order to acquire an Omron Luna unix workstation. They've been
a particular want of mine for a while, but I've found one on yahoo
auctions japan or ebay for a while now. Ideas?
--
//Tyler Saylor
If you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, it's UNIX's job to
ensure reliable delivery of the bullet to where you aimed the gun (in
this case, Mr. Foot). -- Terry Lambert
I have a VAX 4000-200 available. It has KA660 CPU, 2x16MB RAM boards, TK70&TQK70, KZQSA and a user-built-in HSD05 providing SCSI system disk support (see http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2006-July/023485.html for how I did it). BA430 case.
Working when parked, probably still does and I can fire it up and verify if wanted. NiCd cell removed from the bulkhead to prevent leaks, so date needs to be reset on bootup (but the bulkhead PCB isn't corroded!). Just got to the point where the space was needed and a VAXstation was able to take care of my VAX computing needs.
Make offer. May consider trades for smaller gear as well.
Also have a PowerMac 6100/60, Sun IPC (NVRAM problem), Sun SPARCstation 1+ and a Mac IIci (+5V trickle PSU problem) available if wanted for free - take one or all.
I received this message from Cody in Arkansas.
Please contact him if interested:
-----------------------------------------------
My grandmother used to own a radio shack and closed it down several years ago and we have recently been going through and cleaning the building out. We found several things including a TRS-80 model II and several, several accessories.??Let me know if you are interested in anything.
Contact:? cody_stinnett at yahoo.com?
Location: Arkansas
-----------------------------------------------
? Tt.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
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Today's Topics:
1. NEEDED: Vintage/old computer monitors/keyboards/mice for
Exhibition in London (Samuel Twidale)
2. VCFSE countdown (Brian L. Stuart)
3. NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code (Lyle Bickley)
4. RE: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code
(Benjamin Huntsman)
5. NASA Open Source Catalog... (Lyle Bickley)
6. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Al Kossow)
7. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Paul Koning)
8. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Paul Koning)
9. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Lyle Bickley)
10. More AT&T UNIX PC (Seth Morabito)
11. OpenVMS Hobbyist License (David Coolbear)
12. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt)
13. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt)
14. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt)
15. Happy Birthday IBM 360 (BE Arnold)
16. Re: VCFSE countdown (Glen Slick)
17. Re: VCFSE countdown (David Riley)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:01:35 +0100
From: "Samuel Twidale" <samuel.twidale at barbican.org.uk>
To: <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: NEEDED: Vintage/old computer monitors/keyboards/mice for
Exhibition in London
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Hi Everyone,
I'm currently looking for vintage computer equipment for an exhibition
in London which opens in July (you might have noticed that I have posted
before about this for other items).
For the exhibition we have a number of old digital pieces which need to
be displayed on vintage or old equipment. We can't use the computers
>from the same period as the pieces in most cases because we need the
pieces to be running without issue in 5 years. Therefore we are
proposing to use new PCs and old monitors, keyboards and mice.
Firstly, please could you let me know if you have an experience with
this kind of thing.
Secordly, These are the things I'm looking for, please get in touch if
you can provide anything (I am based in London):
2x mid 70s computer monitor + mid 70s keyboard
1x early 80s monitor for use with zx spectrum
1x 70s TV
1x 80s TV
1x 90s TV
1x mid 90s monitor and mouse
ON top of this I'm looking for 2x G3 iMac, preferably with OS9
installed.
Thanks for your help,
Sam
Samuel Twidale
Exhibition Technical Consultant
Barbican International Enterprises
T: 020 7638 4141 ext: 7333
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Jul-14 Sep 2014): an immersive exhibition of art, design, film, music
and video games from the 1970s to the future. Opening this summer at the
Barbican
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Brian L. Stuart" <blstuart at bellsouth.net>
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: VCFSE countdown
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VCFE 9.1 is in the books.? Even though I wasn't able to make it,
>from what I've heard it was a great success.? Congratulations to
everyone involved!
And if you didn't get your fill of classic computing (and let's be
honest, who among us could ever get our fill), VCFSE 2.0 is
coming up soon!? In a mere 26 days, the classic computing
community will assemble in Atlanta for the second annual
VCF Southeast.? The slate of speakers is being filled.? Workshops
are being prepared.? A whole CompUSA retail space worth
of exhibits are being assembled.? As an added bonus, last
year's Apple Pop-Up museum will again be available.? It
features an original Apple I and Woz's original wire-wrapped
floppy controller prototype.? Stay tuned as we announce more
details over the next few weeks.
So make your plans now to come join us on May 3 and 4 in
Roswell, GA.
Brian L. Stuart
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:29:11 -0700
From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code
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This ought to be a fun treasure trove of software!!!
http://www.wired.com/2014/04/nasa-guidebook/
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 23:34:47 +0000
From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code
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That's fantastic!
I've still been trying to get them to release the HAL/S and XPL compilers for the Shuttle Program. I hear the flight code itself is under ITAR though. Maybe that'll change...
Thanks for the link!
-Ben
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on behalf of Lyle Bickley [lbickley at bickleywest.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:29 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code
This ought to be a fun treasure trove of software!!!
http://www.wired.com/2014/04/nasa-guidebook/
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:37:57 -0700
From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: NASA Open Source Catalog...
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Here's NASA's current open source catalog:
http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/opensource/ikos/
Under the heading "Other NASA Software" there are links to several NASA
sites with downloadable software.
Here is DARPA's Open Catalog:
http://www.darpa.mil/OpenCatalog/index.html
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:18:30 -0700
From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog...
Message-ID: <53434056.8060804 at bitsavers.org>
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On 4/7/14 4:37 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> Here's NASA's current open source catalog:
>
and the COSMIC library continues to be a ripoff
NASTRAN, for example
http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/orders/index.php?group_id=112
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:28:21 -0400
From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog...
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
> On 4/7/14 4:37 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>> Here's NASA's current open source catalog:
>>
>
> and the COSMIC library continues to be a ripoff
>
> NASTRAN, for example
>
> http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/orders/index.php?group_id=112
Indeed. It may be worth that much, or it may not, but certainly that is not in any way shape or form ?open software?.
paul
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:30:12 -0400
From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog...
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On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
>
>> On 4/7/14 4:37 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>>> Here's NASA's current open source catalog:
>>>
>>
>> and the COSMIC library continues to be a ripoff
>>
>> NASTRAN, for example
>>
>> http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/orders/index.php?group_id=112
>
> Indeed. It may be worth that much, or it may not, but certainly that is not in any way shape or form ?open software?.
What?s particularly odd is that the license mentions ?Copyright US Government? when copyright law specifically says that works of the US Government are in the public domain.
paul
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:31:03 -0700
From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog...
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:18:30 -0700
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
> On 4/7/14 4:37 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> > Here's NASA's current open source catalog:
> >
>
> and the COSMIC library continues to be a ripoff
>
> NASTRAN, for example
>
> http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/orders/index.php?group_id=112
The whole "openchannel" site is a rip...
I've downloaded a quite a bit of source code from NASA w/o charge. The
"User Agreements" or "Keys" can be a pain - but they don't cost
anything...
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 00:31:34 -0400
From: Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: More AT&T UNIX PC
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Well, I was able to get my full backup and full set of system software
disks made just in time. The hard drive gave up the ghost last night.
It's making horrible bearing noises, and an attempt to re-initialize
the disk and check for bad blocks overflows the bad block table almost
instantly. It's dead, Jim.
Not at all surprising, given its age. It may even be fixable, but I'm
on to bigger and better things. I've started scoping out the work
needed to build a hard drive emulator board that will connect to the
WD1010 socket and behave like a storage subsystem, with an SD card
and/or USB on the other end.
The work is being helped tremendously by looking at Philip Pemberton's
"3b1emu" source code, which implements an emulated WD2010 in software.
If things go according to plan, I hope to have a proof of concept
board kludged together on protoboard in a month or so. [an aside:
nothing ever goes according to plan]
-Seth
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 18:06:04 -0700
From: David Coolbear <cool1 at thecoolbears.org>
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Subject: OpenVMS Hobbyist License
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I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:17:27 -0400
From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License
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On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
> the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
> where to get the license.
>
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:18:34 -0400
From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License
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On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
> the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
> where to get the license.
>
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:02:12 -0400
From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License
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On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
> the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
> where to get the license.
>
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 07:54:56 -0400
From: BE Arnold <bearnold at outlook.com>
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Happy Birthday IBM 360
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I love the pictures, so 60's.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/50-years-ago-ibm-crea…
Thanks,
Brad Arnold
President & Cofounder, Atlanta Historical Computing Society
VCFSE 2.0 May 3 & 4, 2014 - http://www.Vintage.org/2014/southeasthttp://www.ATLHCS.orghttp://www.AtariPodcast.com
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:53:12 -0700
From: Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VCFSE countdown
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> VCFE 9.1 is in the books. Even though I wasn't able to make it,
> from what I've heard it was a great success. Congratulations to
> everyone involved!
Haven't had a chance to finish watching this video yet:
Dave Haynie Talks About Developing The Commodore Amiga
Dave Haynie talks at VCF East on April 6, 2014 about developing the
various Amiga systems...
Fran Blanche
Published on Apr 6, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcr2CFV0T4I
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 12:04:04 -0400
From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: VCFSE countdown
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On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> VCFE 9.1 is in the books. Even though I wasn't able to make it,
>> from what I've heard it was a great success. Congratulations to
>> everyone involved!
>
> Haven't had a chance to finish watching this video yet:
>
> Dave Haynie Talks About Developing The Commodore Amiga
> Dave Haynie talks at VCF East on April 6, 2014 about developing the
> various Amiga systems...
Yeah, it was very good. You should watch Jason Scott's talk as well;
I thought it was very compelling, and he was a very good speaker!
I know MARCH had a guy on camera for all the talks, but I haven't
looked to see if/where they've been posted yet.
- Dave
End of cctalk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11
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24 days and counting until VCFSE 2.0!
Q: How many PDP-8s are you going to see at VCFSE?
A: You'll have to come and see.? (But it'll probably be
at least 3.)
Come to Atlanta May 3rd and 4th and see the PDP-8s
and many other interesting systems.? We're looking
forward to seeing you all there.
Brian L. Stuart
The gist of the message is, he has 8" SSDD diskettes from a DEC
LSI-11/02 running RT11, and he wants to recover some TECO files. Please
reply directly to Brian Chee if you are able to help.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Chee <chee at hawaii.edu>
Sent: April 4, 2014 11:26:46 AM EDT
Subject: Re: [past-noc] Request from ancient geeks
They're from a DEC LSI-11/02 running RT11.
> Brian Chee <chee at hawaii.edu> writes:
>
>> So a friend is hoping to find someone that could grab some teco files
> off some
>> 8" single side single density floppies (soft sector)...
>> Anyone still have an operational unit?
>> Brian chee
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Advanced Network Computing Laboratory (ANCL)
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2525 Correa Road, HIG 500
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Office: 808-956-5797
On 8 April 2014 20:41, Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com> wrote:
> Why so little in the UK?
One of the things that determine price is the number of bidders. I
know... obvious.
But setting the price at 1p would not work if 1) there were not at least
two bidders who wanted it, and 2) those two bidders were looking for
these items during the time period that an item is listed.
I normally set a minimum price at what I would be willing to sell at
with a BIN at what I want :). And those two prices have normally been
well researched before listing.
For example, 360K floppy drives are currently selling (in the US)
between about $8 and $100.00. The difference? Brand name, condition, the
number of bidders, and if the seller has a clue on how to list.
Hi!
I replaced two ram chip and had to recalibrate from scratch the floppy
on the right. The spring that pushes the dummy felt head on top of the
floppy disk had become a bit loose, and there wasn't enough pressure on
the disk, so I got BOOT ERROR message.
I had to bend the spring a little and rotate the felt head...
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/Osborne/1/
Notice the graphic package :P
After hunting for what seems like ages, I finally acquired an AT&T PC
7300 today. In most ways it's fairly modest (40MB disk, 2 MB RAM), but
I was very excited to find that it does have the Ethernet expansion
card installed.
I reset the root password and got into the system. It has the TCP/IP
drivers loaded, and I'm able to do marvelous things like telnet and
ftp on my LAN. Remarkable!
My concern is that I don't have the TCP/IP driver diskette, so if
anything happens to the hard disk, that's that.
Does anyone have a disk image they'd be willing to send me? Judging
>from the FAQ, the part number is AT&T650008.
I'd also love to find any other commercial software that was
available. I could swear that there used to be archives of the stuff
online, but if there were, I certainly can't find them now. Bitsavers
has the stock system software, for which I'm grateful, but not very
much else.
Regards,
-Seth Morabito
Folks,
After using ADTPro I've been able to create disk images of several old
Apple 2 disks. Hooray! However, there is the question of what to do
with the images now.
Many of the files are for the old word processing program Magic
Windows. I can boot and read many (but not all) of these files in an
emulator running Magic Windows. The Magic Windows files on the disks
are binary and are in their own weird format; doing things like
running 'strings' against them or opening them in a Word Processing
program produces nothing useful.
Is there an emulator for OSX that will emulate a serial or parallel
port? That way I can "print" from within the Magic Windows program and
the emulator will hopefully spool the output to a text file. That way
I can get this old data out.
Any other ideas?
Thanks!
--
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
> the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
> where to get the license.
http://www.openvms.org/pages.php?page=Hobbyist
Hi Everyone,
I'm currently looking for vintage computer equipment for an exhibition
in London which opens in July (you might have noticed that I have posted
before about this for other items).
For the exhibition we have a number of old digital pieces which need to
be displayed on vintage or old equipment. We can't use the computers
>from the same period as the pieces in most cases because we need the
pieces to be running without issue in 5 years. Therefore we are
proposing to use new PCs and old monitors, keyboards and mice.
Firstly, please could you let me know if you have an experience with
this kind of thing.
Secordly, These are the things I'm looking for, please get in touch if
you can provide anything (I am based in London):
2x mid 70s computer monitor + mid 70s keyboard
1x early 80s monitor for use with zx spectrum
1x 70s TV
1x 80s TV
1x 90s TV
1x mid 90s monitor and mouse
ON top of this I'm looking for 2x G3 iMac, preferably with OS9
installed.
Thanks for your help,
Sam
Samuel Twidale
Exhibition Technical Consultant
Barbican International Enterprises
T: 020 7638 4141 ext: 7333
Barbican Centre
Silk Street, London, EC2Y 8DS
barbican.org.uk <http://www.barbican.org.uk/>
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Digital Revolution
<http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=15608> (3
Jul-14 Sep 2014): an immersive exhibition of art, design, film, music
and video games from the 1970s to the future. Opening this summer at the
Barbican
P before you print think about the Environment
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VCFE 9.1 is in the books.? Even though I wasn't able to make it,
>from what I've heard it was a great success.? Congratulations to
everyone involved!
And if you didn't get your fill of classic computing (and let's be
honest, who among us could ever get our fill), VCFSE 2.0 is
coming up soon!? In a mere 26 days, the classic computing
community will assemble in Atlanta for the second annual
VCF Southeast.? The slate of speakers is being filled.? Workshops
are being prepared.? A whole CompUSA retail space worth
of exhibits are being assembled.? As an added bonus, last
year's Apple Pop-Up museum will again be available.? It
features an original Apple I and Woz's original wire-wrapped
floppy controller prototype.? Stay tuned as we announce more
details over the next few weeks.
So make your plans now to come join us on May 3 and 4 in
Roswell, GA.
Brian L. Stuart
Hi all,
For display at the VCF SE 2.0, I am seeking a non-working core memory
board. Does anyone have one for loan?
Please contact me off list.
Thanks,
Kyle
While trying to wrap my head around soldering QFN chips, I managed to
mangle a Schmartboard[1] and a Texas Instruments TLV320AIC3106[2]. My
problem is that I impatiently omitted flux, which I don't currently have.
The board and chip are crusted with solder in several wrong places. I
would like to offer the chip and Schmartboard to anyone who thinks they
can resurrect and use it. Cost is nothing -- not even postage. I have
some international first class stamps lying around that won't otherwise
get used. So, if you're gung-ho about soldering tiny things like this,
please take these off my hands and out of my mind. I'll order some flux
and more supplies and do this right with fresh materials.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1IfYguQLQ
[2] The TLV320AIC3106 is an audio codec chip often found in USB sound
interfaces. See http://www.ti.com/product/tlv320aic3106
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
I need to part with my MicroVAX.
This VAX actually comes in two cabinets, the main BA215 cabinet and the auxiliary BA215 / R215F storage expansion. Between both cabinets there are 4 hard disks: 1 RF72 (1GB), 1 RF71 (400 MB), and 2 RF30 (150 MB each).
It has a full complement of cards in the Q-Bus chassis:
KA640-AA CPU (M7624-A)
MS650-AA 8MB memory card
MS650-AA 8MB memory card
MS650-BA 8 MB memory
TQK70 tape drive controller
KZQSA SCSI controller
I am including a DEC RRD42-DA SCSI CD-ROM drive in its own standalone enclosure as well as a replacement CD-ROM, the faster RRD43-AA (for the CD-ROM drives you?ll need to supply your own SCSI cable, SCSI terminator, and standard AC power cable).
Also included is the DEC VT420 serial terminal.
Pictures are here:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?40710-DEC-MicroVAX-3…
The unit is in Atlanta. I'd prefer pickup, considering the size/weight, but I'd be open to proposals.
Thanks, Matt
Greetings
Living Computer Museum is looking to purchase unbuilt or partially built kit computers, such as Heathkit/Zenith and other brands.
We are also looking to purchase examples of home-built S-100, Z-80, 8086, and similar hobbyist-style computers.
Thanks for thinking of us!
Cynde
Cynde Moya, MLIS, PhD
Librarian/Archivist
Living Computer Museum
http://www.livingcomputermuseum.org
Vulcan Inc.
206-342-2385
----- Original Message:
> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 00:47:56 -0600
> From: Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Richard Cini <rich.cini at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> The ROMs are 2532
>
> I wrote:
>> Presumably you meant 2332?
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Richard Cini <rich.cini at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> 2332 is the mask ROM but I believe the EPROM version is TI 2532.
>>
>
> Yes, that was my point.
----- Reply:
I think Rich was talking about the replacements, so I guess your nitpicking
point should have been "Presumably you meant EPROMs?" (instead of ROMs)...
BTW, Motorola also made an MCM2532.
Hello all,
I'm looking for a manual in english, dutch or german of a Rotring nc10
scriber so i can change the fontsize of memorize things in the internal
storage. it is a cool device to write words on a draftingboard with a
pen.anothe one can be seen in action here: http://youtu.be/AK_816uFSTE
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
Hello all,
we at hack42.nl just got our first AIM65 together with a SYM-1. the AIM
has custom roms, but it would be nice to have a standard version as
well. we have a eprom programmer, althoug it might be too new to service
4k eproms... anyway, we are looking for rom images for this machine.
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
Hi!
I'm servicing a 9810.
The 1A slow-blow fuse is gone.
Before I replace it and try to power-up the machine, anyone is familiar
with this calculator? What should I check?
Thanks!
The Vintage Computer Festival Southeast 2.0 starts one month from today and it's shaping-up to be a great show! We'll be revealing more information on vintage.org in the coming days, so be sure to check back often.
http://www.vintage.org/2014/southeast/