Hello all,
we got a nice squary blue tele-tec terminal but the screen is covered
with a lot of spots in the silicone between the safetyglass and the
tube. is there a way to fix that?
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
Hi Folks!
Another terminal question. I have an ADM-5 here which works fine but
when switched off, the display colpases into a very bright vertical line
and then to a single point in the center of the screen. This then lasts
for about 10 seconds and always happens regardless of the brightness
setting. Question is, is this normal and if not, is it likely to damage
the phosphor over time?
Cheers,
Dave
----- Original Message -----
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:03:10 +1000
> From: Nigel Williams <nw at retrocomputingtasmania.com>
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Nigel Williams
> <nigel.d.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: MikeS <dm561 at torfree.net>
>> Several hundred pages though; might take me a while to scan them. Nag me
>> off-list.
>>
>> Your namesake Nigel Williams down under may also have some relevant info.
>
> Thanks for the notoriety. I just have the TD-700 reference manual as
> per bitsavers in printed form.
...
> I make the count of 4 existent TD-700s, that is pretty good for such
> an unusual terminal.
----- Reply: -----
Sorry Nigel, I thought you actually had one (and not just in your dreams ;-)
I have one but it's missing several cards and will presumably never work
again, although I did have dreams for a while of somehow driving the display
with modern hardware.
FWIW I also have an unpopulated 4-slot control unit for the display-only
version; considering the size and weight I expect they'll both end up being
recycled some day although I may keep the display 'just in case'...
m
These were the terminal servers of their day. Nice way to hook up to a lot
of vintage machines with equally vintage hardware :-) I'd be happy to take
these down to the FedEx store and ship them to somewhere. My experience
with that before is that its about $30 pretty much anywhere in the lower 48
states of the US.
--Chuck
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Nigel Williams
<nigel.d.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: MikeS <dm561 at torfree.net>
> Several hundred pages though; might take me a while to scan them. Nag me
> off-list.
>
> Your namesake Nigel Williams down under may also have some relevant info.
Thanks for the notoriety. I just have the TD-700 reference manual as
per bitsavers in printed form.
I do singularly cosset the TD-700, having used one briefly, attached
to a B6700, however a quite frustrating terminal to use due to the
limited line-length of 32 characters - only 8-lines vertically could
be tolerated, but the limited line-length on machines that have
sequence number fields beyond column 72 meant horizontal scrolling was
essential and frequently needed. Still, the SELF-SCAN red display and
de-coupled layout (screen+keyboard+control unit all separate) heralded
future-times, so it was an iconic object just not practical.
I make the count of 4 existent TD-700s, that is pretty good for such
an unusual terminal.
Greetings folks.
My sincere apologies for the "unannounced downtime" for manx a few days ago.
The downtime was to install a new 33TB NAS, which will allow us to at least
double the disk space available to manx (and other classiccmp-hosted sites).
You're welcome Richard.
Jay West
PS - you may see "that is what you get for free", all I see is the $$$
I just spent on a 33TB NAS. Again, you're welcome.
> I can't tell its value, the markings are 224 E5Z on one side and 038
> ASF on the other side.
> .. can anyone tell me what value/spec the capacitor has?
Err, was that maybe "Z5E"? I have found this page:
http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Capacitor_Codes
very helpful in deciphering capacitor markings.
Noel
Does anyone have any information on this item? It is a single-slot 16KW core memory module for a PDP 8/E,M,F. A manual would be helpful; schematics would be great.
Thanks,
Jack
> From: Chris Osborn
> I don't have a nice editor on the PC.
Epsilon. ("Wasau.")
Basically EMACS (although the default key-bindings for the more esoteric
functions are not the same - easy to fix, though). Been using it for 25 years
or so; fast as all getout, totally customizable in something that's so close
to C that anyone who knows C can pick it up in about 3 minutes. Can't
recommend it highly enough.
Noel
> From: Jay West <jwest at dewey.classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Recent Downtime of Bitsavers & Manx
>
> Greetings folks.
> My sincere apologies for the "unannounced downtime" for manx a few days
> ago.
> The downtime was to install a new 33TB NAS, which will allow us to at least
> double the disk space available to manx (and other classiccmp-hosted
> sites).
> You're welcome Richard.
> Jay West
> PS - you may see "that is what you get for free", all I see is the $$$
> I just spent on a 33TB NAS. Again, you're welcome.
I see this as an awesome magical upgrades and that someone cares for stuff
I get for free but really appreciate! Doesn't get much better than that!
:-)
Thanks Jay for the upgrade!! (Now if I ever win the lottery I can set up
another bitsaver node and help you out with the $$$ of the NAS... :-) )
Earl
Brian,
On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Brian wrote:
> It's starting to look like we might be using this simulator in our Intro
> to CS class here at Drexel this quarter. ...
Yup! That looks so cool I talked my daughter into trying it on her iPad 1, iOS 5.1. It works!
She?s taking a self-paced CS intro course this fall. I think this may have just gotten added to her curriculum.
What are some reasonable Exercises I could assign her?
Is there a list of problems from the manual that?s posted somewhere?
- Mark
> A lot will depend on what you want to do.
<snip>
I was able to make a 8" DOS 6.22 boot disk, but you have to play around with
the 77 vs 80 tracks issue when spoofing a 1.2M 5 1/4" drive. Or just ignore
the errors at the end of the format, as it will still work enough to get by.
I told the computer BIOS I had a 1.2M 5 1/4" drive in A, and used the DBIT
adapter to connect to the 8" drive. It may matter what side of the twisted
drive cable the adapter is placed, so you'll have to play around with it.
I am assuming your drive controller and computer are compatible with the
hardware.
Format complete, use SYS command from DOS to move boot files to the disk to
make it bootable. Once you have the disk formatted it seems to work just
fine as a DOS diskette like any other, at least in my disk imaging system.
You can walk around and tell people you have a 8" boot drive on your PC, but
it's not as exciting to others as you might think.....ug. Anyway I made a
thread on my site about my adventures with imaging disks et al
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=561
Bill
> Gordon Bell, 'Father of the Minicomputer,' Named Recipient of 2014 IEEE
> Computer Society Seymour Cray Computer Engineering Award
So I was originally going to post that while I whole-heartedly agree that he
deserved the award, I was a bit dubious about the 'Father of the Minicomputer'
thing, because the only early minicomputer I knew of associated with him was
the PDP-11 (which really made minicomputers a Really Big Deal, and is clearly
significant); however, the grouping had attained takeoff speed before it
appeared.
It's a good question which minicomputer was really the first and/or really set
the grouping going. Among the claimants would be the PDP-8 (the detailed
designer of the original PDP-8 being Edson deCastro), which was surely the
first extremely successful minicomputer, and the CDC 160 (designed by Seymour
Cray). Another possibility would be the LINC, designed by Wes Clark (whose
other big claim to fame was suggesting the ARPANET IMP), and Charles Molnar.
Then there's the PDP-5, which was a success, but nowhere near as big a hit as
the PDP-8, although it was the inspiration for the PDP-8. I wasn't sure if I
class the PDP-5 as a minicomputer, though; it was a bit too big (physically)
and expensive. But its architect was.... Gordon Bell! (See Glenn Rifkin,
"Ultimate Entrepreneur", pg. 55.) Edson deCastro was apparently the detail
designer of this one too. Bell was apparently also the architect of the PDP-8.
So it sounds like the title is merited... (And Wikipedia really needs a PDP-5
page. Maybe I'll whip one up...)
Noel
It seems I have yet another failed PSU (fans turn, CPU gives a diagnostic
"F", but DC OK does not come on).
This time from a VAX 4000-300 in a BA440 case. I have not been able to find
a print set or a schematic. Does anyone have such information? Even just the
pinout information for the external connectors so I can connect a test load
to see what is coming out?
How do DC OK circuits typically work?
Regards
Rob
Henk,
Great list, and scary short. Paul Pierce's magnificient 709 at the end of your list has been recently donated to the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. It is currently in storage there. I have recent pictures of it (front panel, row after row of tubes, giant spaghetti backplane) but with my daughter monkeying in front of it... If you are interested let me know.
Marc
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:00:15 +0200
> From: "Henk Stegeman" <h.j.stegeman at hccnet.nl>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Inventory of remaining IBM S/360 CPU's.
> Message-ID: <LEEAKOBMDOCBLGHAMGACIENJDPAA.h.j.stegeman at hccnet.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi,
>
> I have compiled a list with all known remaining IBM system/360 CPU's, their
> owner, location and if avail a picture.
> This webpage also links to other remaining IBM hardware lists.
> They are all very short compared with the number of systems IBM ever
> produced.
>
> http://www.ibmsystem3.nl/System360/
>
> Any input to make this list more complete is welcome.
>
> Regards Henk
I am hoping to pickup where Jack Rubin left off with a new to me Motorola
Exorset 110 MC6809 development system. This is a periodic query to
see if anyone has or may know the whereabouts of an XDOS boot floppy
or any other XDOS software for this machine. These would be 5.25"
soft-sectored floppies and XDOS 4.0 is the version discussed in the
manuals although apparently there was an XDOS 3.0 also.
I see MDOS out on bitsavers but those .IMDs appear to be for 8" media
and I am not sure how I would convert that filesystem for 5.25" media
but it's possible MDOS would boot on this machine also if proper media
were available.
Any leads?
Chris
--
Chris Elmquist
>
> From: Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:08:22 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Gordon Bell wins S. Cray Award
> There are two editions (at least - I have a '71 and an '82), and they cover
> very different machines. E.g. the '71 has Whirlwind, the 7094, STRETCH,
> etc,
> which the '82 doesn't. And of course the '82 has a whole bunch of later
> machines which the '71 doesn't have - AMD29xx, various micros, Cray, VAX,
> etc,
> etc.
>
> Noel
>
I have a 1978 First Printing.
It starts with the Lincoln TX-2 and ends with the 11/780 and the PDP-10.
--
Michael Thompson
It seems odd, but I am unable to access manx.classiccmp.org and bitsavers. I
have tried from my regular domestic internet connection and also on my phone
which is an entirely different provider.
?????
Rob
CoCo Max is a program written for the Color Computer that is very much
like MacPaint. I made a video comparing them. Please enjoy.
http://youtu.be/4GxRr5tkSPk
--
tim lindner
> From: Sean Caron
> "Computer Engineering: A DEC view of hardware systems design" by Bell
> et al. offers a really nice look at the historical origins of all the
> various PDP lines.
A 'must buy' for all DEC enthusiasts, IMO.
> Another very interesting Bell et al. text that I enjoy is "Computer
> Structures: Principles and Examples" though it is (very) much less
> DEC-centric.
There are two editions (at least - I have a '71 and an '82), and they cover
very different machines. E.g. the '71 has Whirlwind, the 7094, STRETCH, etc,
which the '82 doesn't. And of course the '82 has a whole bunch of later
machines which the '71 doesn't have - AMD29xx, various micros, Cray, VAX, etc,
etc.
Noel
Back home now, the trip up north was great.. it got a bit cold,
particularly out on the lake, but great never the less!
The generally-available 8800 kit manual is for the original (perhaps 'A')
version, which contains grounding scheme notes for the 'A' type power
supply. My machine has a 'B' type PSU, and as such, may have some
differences.
Is anyone aware of any differences between the A and B type grounding
schemes? Can anyone provide any documentation for the same?
Also - I was able to come up with some 1/8" braid to create the several
ground straps - but I can't find any 1/4" braid as spec'd in the manual.
But again, the manual is for the 'A' series and the 1/4" braid is used on
the negative end of the many (8?) electrolytics used on the A type PSU
board.
I'm not even sure if such a scheme is used on the B type board.. and my
board bears no sign that such a scheme were ever implemented. But
obviously, the board +must+ be very solidly grounded, so.. how was it done
in the day?
As ever, thanks for all of your input! The project is coming together
nicely..
From: "Ali" <cctalk at fahimi.net>
Subject: RE: "Smartcom II" package available
Message-ID: <037e01cfd372$28183000$78489000$@net>
Earl,
That is pretty cool. Did the NEC system run an 8" based MS-DOS? Or was it a
different variety of DOS (or straight CP/M)? I have heard rumors
of MS-DOS natively available on 8" disks but I have never seen one. If it
is MS-DOS how compatible is it with MS-DOS versions of the
same vintage? Thanks.
It seems to be a pretty "standard" MS-DOS from Microsoft. I don't have
the original disks, so I can't say for 100% sure that it came on 8" but
I wouldn't think it would work properly if it hadn't come that way. It
"seems" to be pretty darn near the same MS-DOS that I remember. I've not,
however, got my setup in place yet to get info from a 5.25 to an 8 so I can
test out other programs on it to see where it has issues. I saw a great
presentation from Malcom during VCF East 9.1, and have slowly started
trying to pick up the pieces that he listed for his disk imaging system.
I'll be sure to report here when I have that done and can get some SW onto
more disks... (if anybody wants to send me a disk with something they'd
like to know if it works, I'll more than willing to give it a go... and
send the disk back when done...)
Earl
p.s. I need to find a sturdy table to put it on... it's on the floor right
now... because of that old maxim : You can't fall off the floor. :-)
> Looking for Sage IV software
I have the following disks specifically labeled "Sage IV [something] in my
inventory of Sage software. Here is what is hand-written on a few disks
that may be of interest:
Sage IV Util
FallBck p-sys IV BIOS Clones
Sage IV P-sys System: Wy-50 OS Distribution for 2 disk system
Sage IV 80/80 Opd
I have a Sage II, the rest of my Sage software appears to be for the II but
it's not all marked specifically. My docs are Sage II. I will image and
upload to my web site if anyone wants something, but regardless I will image
all of the disks soon, I am about to make a big 5 1/4" disk archive update.
If poss. send inquires through vintagecomputer.org/contact.cfm, but I do
check this list almost daily too.
Bill
> If I knew the trade name, I'm sure I could buy some - but I don't know
> what it's called. Anyone out there know?
I am advised that the stuff I am looking for is 3M "Dual Lock" (if anyone else
wanted to know :-).
Noel
I have a Sigma BA11N LSI-11 box which is missing a front panel; I need to
build a replacement so that the airflow works properly. Building the panel
isn't a problem - what is, is getting the device that keeps it on, which I
need to source - only I don't know the name.
It's a plastic thing that's sort of like Velcro, but it consists of numerous
small stalks (about 1mm high, and slightly less than that in diameter), with
little spheres (slightly more than 1mm in diameter) on the ends of the stalks.
If I knew the trade name, I'm sure I could buy some - but I don't know what
it's called. Anyone out there know? Thanks!
(Of course, if anyone has a spare Sigma front panel, that would be even
better, but the odds of that... :-)
Noel
A younger fellow, new friend of mine, is trying to get into the electronics
hobby - and he needs a decent tempco soldering outfit. I gifted him with a
Weller WTCP type base - the older style, with the iron holder built in to
the top of the base.
But I didn't have a spare TC-201 type pencil, or "irons" you might say, to
work with the base.
If anyone has a spare, working pencil for this base, please email me
off-list. Send details and asking price.. and if you have a spare tip or
two, etc, go ahead and let me know.
He's short on funds and I'd like to help him get-going with a decent set.
And while I'm never one to "blame the tool", the main bench iron is no
place to skimp.. cheap irons +can+ make good joints when needed, but not in
the hands of a novice - in my experience. I don't want to hobble him with
one of those $5.99 Willy Wong specials.
Hi all --
About a year back I made a deal to acquire a pair of workstations located
near Toronto, ON with the plans to drop by at some point to pick them up
(my family lives in Michigan, so a road trip was expected at some point...).
Unfortunately, these plans have all fizzled out and I really don't want to
leave the guy who is very kindly holding onto these waiting for too much
longer. He's not excited about dealing with crating / shipping these
himself (hence the road trip plans, etc.)
Is there anyone in the area who might be willing to help me out in the
somewhat near future, to pick the machines up and drop them off at a nearby
shipper so I can get them back to Seattle? (Any shipper recommendations in
the Toronto area? Looking for someone who can do a decent job crating
these up...) This is a pair of Xerox 6085s, including monitor, keyboard
and some software. It should fit into the back of an SUV, or be crammed
into a sedan if you're clever about it.
Drop me a line offlist if you're willing to help me out.
Thanks,
Josh
It's time for another type-in BASIC program challenge! Are you ready
for BASIC Week 3: Under the Sea?
This time around instead of just being a picture or an animation, it's
a game! You take control of a sea turtle in a sort of endless runner
type game. The turtle constantly swims from left to right and the A &
Z keys move the turtle up & down. You need to eat food (x/y characters
in most versions) for points. Running into enemies will cost you
air. You can refill your air by catching air bubbles, or you can
surface to refill completely. When you run out of air it's game over
and the turtle goes belly up.
All you need is a vintage computer that can run BASIC. Like all the
BASIC Weeks before, if you've got a computer with BASIC in ROM you'll
only need a working computer and monitor. There's no requirement that
you save the program to tape or disk, just type it in and run it.
Come check it out: http://redd.it/2fn1zq
--
Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx
Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com
I am looking to purchase/acquire a copy of Adobe FrameMaker 8 for Unix/Solaris.
Straight from Adobe, FrameMaker had always been a pretty pricy item, but I had
always managed to acquire a legal copy, sometimes years old and after the fact
through eBay, etc.
And through that method, I own legal copies+media of 5.x, 6.x and 7.x for Unix
and Mac.
I had hoped to purchase a copy of version 8 via a similar method, but several
years have passed by, and I have never seen a copy of version 8 for sale.
After version 8, FrameMaker was significantly changed and released for
dos/windows only. I believe that the current version is 11.x.
Also, in case it isn't obvious, this is for myself for home use only.
Jerry
Particularly IDRIS and TRIPOS.
I was also told that the sources to the PROM were made available, but
I can't seem to find them.
If anyone has a mirror of ftp.sageandstride.org before it went down,
that'd also be appreciated.
Thanks,
- Ian
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.finder at gmail.com
Hi Folks!
Just picked up a pair of these terminals. I've managed to get one
cleaned up and fully working but I'm having a few issues with the second
unit. Does anybody have schematics or technical documentation for these
machines?
Cheers,
Dave
I promised a few people on the list I would let them know when I found the
VT330 and VT330+ boards. Well, I finally found them! It only took two
years or so.... I sent emails to a few, but I'm not sure if I remembered
everyone.
NOTE: The VT330 boards are different than the VT330+.
I also have brand new CTRs , all 3 colors.
I also found other VT and LA parts, and complete units.
Please contact me off list. Shipping from 61853
Trying to suss-out the details of 8800B PSU layout and case assembly.
So far I've only come across one user-created image of an Altair 8800B PSU,
see link below.
I'm looking for additional images, from different angles - and in
particular, a couple pics of the 8800B case from the _rear_ so I can get an
idea of what kind of perforated metal was used to cover the fan cut-out.
The linked pic shows something back there, but it looks way too restrictive
of airflow and I don't think it's original.
IIRC, there is one image out there that shows a round-hole perforated metal
in that location, as well as covering the connector slots - but I've been
unable to locate it.
As ever, any MITS official documentation on the 8800B assembly process, PSU
in particular, and any associated engineering drawings would be much
appreciated. The A model is well-documented, but I can't find scratch on
the B version, which is substantially different in several areas.
The B models _were_ sold as kits, weren't they? If so, then there is or at
least was a manual..
> From: Paul Koning
> That said, B+ was an excellent implementation of a 1970s era BASIC.
Indeed. RSTS and BASIC were the first computer I actually used (back in '72 -
an 11/20 with 48KB of memory, an RF11 disk, and about 6 ASR33's :-), and I
have fond memories of it. I learned how to program by reading the RSTS BASIC
language reference manual over a weekend!
Noel
On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> Whose BASIC? Is M$ Visual BASIC a BASIC? I don't think anyone but Microsoft really thinks so.
> TrueBASIC? CBASIC? BASIC-E?
Just remember -- regardless of which BASIC you're talking about. . . .
Basic-Plus under RSTS/E transcends them all. . . .
;-)
From: Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu>
> It depends.... If you know a little bit about Cisco, you can find old
> MC3810s or C2600/C3600 multiservice routers very inexpensively, add a few
> voice WICs/NMs, you could probably be up and running for less than $100.
Agreed...I've done this with Asterisk, and it works pretty well. Couple of
things:
1) Make sure you get an IOS version that has the features you need (VoIP).
Even the mc3810 has versions that don't do SIP, among other deficiencies.
While there are numerous ways to "obtain" IOS, it's not free.
2) If you go mc3810, try and get a V3 model. Latest IOS for it is 12.3.3,
but that's marked LD (limited deployment), so it might be better to shoot
for 12.2.26c, which is the latest GD (general deployment) 12.2 chain. 12.3
might be fine, but I've never used it.
3) I think the latest IOS for c2600/c3600 (non-XM models) is 12.4.25. Any
late 12.2, 12.3 or 12.4 release should work OK.
4) Cisco 1700s are also an option, as are a bunch of other models that you
can stick an analog NM in.
KJ
----- Original Message -----
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 23:41:56 +0100
> From: David Williams <dave at willomail.co.uk>
> Subject: Burroughs TD-700 Terminal
>
> Hi Folks!
>
> Just picked up a pair of these terminals. I've managed to get one
> cleaned up and fully working but I'm having a few issues with the second
> unit. Does anybody have schematics or technical documentation for these
> machines?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
----- Reply -----
I have the F T & R Documents (essentially hardware manuals including
schematics) for the TD700 - DL2/3/4 as well as the CRT-based TD800 (801 &
802); also the Reference (User) Manual for the TD730 & TD830.
Several hundred pages though; might take me a while to scan them. Nag me
off-list.
Your namesake Nigel Williams down under may also have some relevant info.
@ Richard:
Not sure if I still have any brochures with pictures; will let you know if I
find any.
mike
Hello all,
in out previous big haul there is a Apollo DN560 computer, with huge
monitor, mouse and keyboard. unfortunately it is missing its video
cable. computer side is a 13w3, splitting in (i think) a db9 and three
bnc's. is this a straight through cable or is the db9 mapped out
differently?
I would love to boot the machine.
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
Hello ccmp'ers - I have compiled photo galleries, videos,
presentations and other media from VCF Midwest 9.0 on our web page
here:
http://vcfmw.org/past.html
If anyone attended has anything I missed that should be linked there,
please post it in this thread and I'll put it up.
It was a great show this year, with record [1] attendance and some
really impressive displays. We can count Texas, New Jersey,
Pennsylvania, Toronto, Portland OR amongst the places people travelled
>from to see our little Party in the Basement. As happens every year,
I am seeing things in the pics that I didn't even know were there,
under my nose. Big thanks to all who showed, sold, spoke or just
attended - it would be just another handful of nerds in a hotel
without you.
Until next year...
- jht
[1] Based on not much more than shirt sales, missing badges and the
general buzz about the place.
From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
Subject: Re: Sun Microsystems Model/Price Lists? (and Sun 1 research)
On 9/18/14 11:03 AM, Earl Baugh wrote:
> It was a good source which lead me to send an updated 3Com doc that I had
> to bhtooefr at gmail.com
>
What was different about it?
Different revisions. I've kept copies of both...
Earl
A couple of interesting items followed me home recently - a Digiac Model 5502 Monochrome Monitor Exerciser and a Digiac Model 5503 Dot Matrix Printer Exerciser. The 5502 seems complete. The 5503 is missing the (presumed) DB-25 and Centronics cables, but I can replace those using old printer cables on hand.
In addition to the models that I own I have also seen references online to a Model 5501 Power Supply Test Load Unit and a Model 5504 Floppy Disk Drive Exerciser.
I have no manuals - does anyone on the list have scans of any of the manuals for the Digiac 55nn series that they would care to share?
Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html
On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Brian wrote:
> In case anyone is interested, I whipped up a little CARDIAC
> simulator as a JavaScript exercise last night. You can find
> it at:
>
> http://cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/museum/cardsim.html
>
> If you were at VCFSE this past May, you may have seen a
> short presentation I gave on the CARDIAC. If you're not
> familiar with it, it was an educational tool developed at
> Bell Labs back in the '60s to teach how a computer operated.
> CARDIAC stands for CARDboard Illustrative Aid to Computation.
>
> Enjoy,
> BLS
This is fun!
Summation program:
00: 090 Read input into location 90
01: 190 Clear and add first addend into accumulator
02: 691 store first addend into running sum
LP 03: 712 Subtract 1 from current addend to get next added
04: 310 Test, branch to 10: if subtraction result < 0
05: 690 store current added to location 90
06: 291 Add running sum into accumulator
07: 691 store running sum back into location 91
08: 190 clear accumulator and place current addend
09: 803 branch to LP 03:
10: 591 Output running sum
11: 900 Reset and halt
12: 001 Constant #1 used for decrement
Uses locations 90 (input, decremented addend) and 91 (running sum), overwriting previous contents
Input N
Output result is Summation (N)
Is that exercise somewhere in the instruction manual? I have not read that...
Brian, thank you!
- Mark
Thanks Jerry, I'm on sunrescue at sunhelp and dug around there because of
that.
It was a good source which lead me to send an updated 3Com doc that I had
to bhtooefr at gmail.com
I didn't hear back, and the dates of these are 2010, so not sure if he's
keeping things updated...
Do appreciate you forwarding the info... you never know who knows what,
etc. And this wasn't
something that I found on sunhelp initially...
Earl
Message: 21
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:49:13 -0500
From: Jerry Kemp <other at oryx.cc>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org>,
cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Sun Microsystems Model/Price Lists? (and Sun 1 research)
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Hello Earl,
I don't have any direct answers to your question, but I wanted to make sure
that
you were aware of the Sun-1 resources here:
http://sun1.sunhelp.org/
Hope this helps,
Jerry
On 09/16/14 08:55 AM, Earl Baugh wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> As part of my Sun 1 research I'm trying to identify some of the model
> numbers that existed for Sun 1's.
> I've got the original Sun description doc that has most of the "initial"
> sun 1 part numbers. However,
> I'm missing some info from between this initial list in 1982 and the 1988
> price list which has the Sun 3
> items.
>
> So later Sun 1 info, and all of the Sun 2 price/model info I don't have.
> Anybody seen any docs from this
> period?
>
> Al, is this perhaps on your queue to scan?
>
> Also, just FYI, as of right now I have hard evidence of 13 machines (11
Sun
> 1/100 or 100U models,
> 2 Sun 1/150U models) with some fairly strong but tentative info on 5
> others (4 100's, 1 150)
> And as of right now, I only know of 1 that definitely boots (and 2 that
did
> "recently", but haven't
> been tested again...)
>
>
> Earl
>
> (BTW, the first post of my rescue story got posted to my
> http://www.vintagecomputerexpo.com blog)
>
Howdy,
As part of my Sun 1 research I'm trying to identify some of the model
numbers that existed for Sun 1's.
I've got the original Sun description doc that has most of the "initial"
sun 1 part numbers. However,
I'm missing some info from between this initial list in 1982 and the 1988
price list which has the Sun 3
items.
So later Sun 1 info, and all of the Sun 2 price/model info I don't have.
Anybody seen any docs from this
period?
Al, is this perhaps on your queue to scan?
Also, just FYI, as of right now I have hard evidence of 13 machines (11 Sun
1/100 or 100U models,
2 Sun 1/150U models) with some fairly strong but tentative info on 5
others (4 100's, 1 150)
And as of right now, I only know of 1 that definitely boots (and 2 that did
"recently", but haven't
been tested again...)
Earl
(BTW, the first post of my rescue story got posted to my
http://www.vintagecomputerexpo.com blog)
On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Brian wrote:
> There's another fun aspect that you might
> want to play with. It's talked about in the manual a bit. You can
> bootstrap your program on cards.
?answering my one slightly niggling worry - how do I ?save? programs to permanent storage? Yup, cut/n/paste into a text file is pretty easy.
Very slick! And thanks once more!
- Mark
On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Tony wrote:
> Chris Elmquist has kindly put my hand-drawn reverse-engineered schemtatics for the DEC Rainbow on his
> 'google drive'. You should be able to download them from the link below (I have checked, I can access them)
Many thanks to you and Chris both!
- Mark