- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ccm＠sentex.net

You've done well Luke Skywalker. This is an effective announcement and good use of the web for current list of speakers. What about newsgroups? Who is sending this announcement to them and which ones? How about funding? What do you think? You're doing a good overall job. All good things start small. No matter who or how many attend, you will be able to say you did it. Mind you, the bills must be paid. Please let me tell you a short story. I thought we had a great idea for a fund-raiser for the COMMPUTERSEUM. We would hold a public viewing of Triumphs of the Nerds complete with door prizes and lots'o fun (picture this: the ticket numbers were printed in binary, octal, and hex yet the door prize numbers were called out in decimal, so to win you first had to convert!). We called it Nerd Night, got lots'o publicity, a nice theater on campus at the University of Waterloo (perhaps you've heard of it by its nickname - Microsoft U.). Everyone said what a great idea, ha, ha Nerd Night in a city of nerds - we called it a Nerdly Celebration, PBS gave us a free copy of Triumph and permission to use it to raise funds. Everything pointed towards success...little did we know...At the appointed time the theater was empty soon three people showed up. Gee wiz, $30 in receipts. Oh well more will come, we thught, so we started the film. Suddenly it occured to me; if we show the film thereby renting the theater and no one else comes we'll lose money. So in the dark I stoped the VCR and when the lights came on explained the situation to the audience and offered to let them borrow the tapes and return their money. Everyone understood and agreed, two borrowed the tapes, all three left their money with the COMMPUTERSEUM. A failure? Perhaps, but we learned and probably all sorts of people think a Nerd Night was held in Waterloo, Ontario., well hey, it did. It's on record. Take care ace Kevin > > > Announcing the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival! > ------------------------------------------------------ > >Mark your calendars! The first ever public celebration of vintage >computers will take place at the Alameda County Fairgrounds in Pleasanton, >California this October 25th and 26th. > >The Vintage Computer Festival (VCF) is the first event of its kind >anywhere in the world. This two day festival will feature presentations >and workshops by notable computer industry figures and vintage computer >hobbyists. There will also be an on-site, hands-on vintage computer >exhibition. Experiment with the classic computers of yesteryear! > >Each year a computer from the past is placed in the Vintage Computer >Spotlight. This year we focus on the Apple ][. To celebrate the 20th >anniversary of this classic, we will be giving away an original Apple ][ >personal computer! Each person who attends the VCF is automatically >entered into the drawing! > >Both seasoned and new computer collectors will enjoy workshops and >panels to share ideas and learn about finding, acquiring, restoring, >and enjoying vintage computers. > >The VCF also features the Vintage Computer Flea Market. Find those old >computers, peripherals, manuals, and programs you've been looking for! >The flea market is the ideal way for new comers to the field to start >their own collection or for seasoned collectors to add to their existing >stash. > >Celebrate the good old days of computing! Attend the First Annual Vintage >Computer Festival!!! > > > When: October 25-26th, 9:00AM - 5:00PM daily > > Where: Alameda County Fairgrounds, Pleasanton, California > >Admission: Pre-registered ($SAVE$) > > Individual: $15 > Family: $24 (two adults and four children) > > Benefits of pre-registration include: > > o Access to speakers, workshops, flea market and > exhibition > o Pre-paid parking > > To pre-register, send a check or money order to: > > Vintage Computer Festival > 4275-29 Rosewood Drive #161 > Pleasanton, California 94588 > > Please make checks payable to "Vintage Computer Festival" > > > At-the-door > > o Speakers, Workshops, Flea Market and Exhibition > > Individual: $10.00 > Family: $16.00 > > o Flea Market and Exhibition only > > Individual: $5.00 > Family: $10.00 > > Please note: "At-the-door" rate is for a one day pass > only and does not include parking. > > >For more information including the latest list of speakers and workshops >please check out: > > http://www.siconic.com/vcf > >or send e-mail to: > > mailto:vcf@siconic.com > > > SEE YOU AT THE VINTAGE COMPUTER FESTIVAL!!! > > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > >

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Intellivision stuff claimed!

by wpe＠interserv.com

Hello Everyone, Allison Parent has taken over custody of the Intellivision stuff.. Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

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Buy and Sell Antiques and Collectib

by darrellg＠mail.dngsolutions.net

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Here we go AGAIN!

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I finally got the '44 to it's (so far) permanent location, and I'm trying to get it all back together, minus the rack (Looking for someplace to put it, it's too bug to get up 8 floors!). I may try anyway... The problem is, I have to get everything in ONE ba11 (Due to lack of power). So, I have no massbus stuff, and I only need 16 com ports for now, so I got 2 DZ11s, the processor, the UDA50, and 1.75MB of RAM into the processor box. My test was to fire it all up, and do "b du0" and UDA50 would wait forever for the RA81 to answer. The RA is still down in my car (I get to unload it myslef - oh boy!) and I can't bring it up yet. Anyway, everything powers up, but when I try to get it to boot, I get to wait about 5 seconds, then I get $20 MPC=15 (I think the $ may have been something else) This (According to the manual) means "the processor started a transfer, but it timed out". Do I have to play with the backplane to get the new config to work? I have NPG cards in everything that's empty. The UDA50 strobes like it's supposed to... The bus is laid out like this: +-----+----+---------+ | | | PRCSSR | | RH11| DZ | | |MBUS | | | +-----+----+---------+ That's then way it WAS. The UDA50 is where the DZ was, the DZ moved to the RH11 area, because when the UDA50 was there, it said the CPU was halted. (All the lights were on) I have an M950 joining the CPU to the UDA, and an M9500 (I think) joining the UDA to the DZs. And the bus IS terminated! I also have NPG plugs on the M950 and M9500. Also: There appears to be a Road Runner (Real, not the animated one) etched on the the 2nd UDA50 card, bu the name. Anyone know anything about that?

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RD52 drive geometry

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Hello, all: How do I determine the drive geometry for a DEC drive? If you've been following my uVAX thread, I need to reformat my external RD52 drive. I've looked in my various PC references and can't find a Quantum drive with a similar capacity. TIA! >========================================> Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com> MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking, Charter ClubWin! Member (6) and a collector of classic computers

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Painting/Re-finishing computer cases...

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

The Obsolete Computer web site has some good tips on case repair and in the FAQ section of classiccmp are some good tips. At 08:26 PM 9/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >Here is something new: > > I just read a newsgroup post about a (somewhat) poor soul who has >gotten a PET 2001 with a rusty case looking for re-finishing/painting >suggestions. I suggested he subscribe here and ask for help. > > Thinking about it this is a cool topic for discussion, has anyone >re-painted their computer cases and what tips/suggestions do you have >for us or what should we avoid (also got any good color schemes?). (I >have a few 64s lying around that would look neat with a custom paint >job, since they are plastic, what do you suggest? > > I remember a letter in one of the Commodore mags on how to remove and >re-set the alphanumeric decals on a keyboard, maybe I sould spend half a >day in the storage unit and find some of this stuff... :/ > > Larry Anderson >-- >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ >Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > >

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FW: For Sale

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Received this last night. Three questions: 1). What's an Osborne Executive? 2). What's it worth? 3). Is anyone interested? If so, please contact the guy directly. This one, personally, I'm not much interested in at the time. Thanks! -=-=- <snip> -=-=- >Priority: Normal >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >To: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net >From: "pro" <pro(a)goes.com> >Subject: For Sale >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 11:01:39 PDT > >We have an Osborne Executive, excellent condition, complete with cables, >manuals, and software. Make offer? Thanks. > >Paul R. Ogushwitz, Ph.D. >PRO Scientific Consulting, 303 Center Street, Hackettstown, NJ 07840 >Phone 908-850-1636 >Email pro(a)goes.com > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Follow-up PS320

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320. Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like trade or sell.

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Follow-up PS320

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Thanks for your input on the problem and I will try the install as soon as I get a copy of AIX. THANKS At 05:53 PM 9/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >>Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the >>Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but >>I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320. >>Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like >>trade or sell. > >Hi, >I was able to look this one up at work today. Basically it's complaining >about one of two things. The first cause is that it can't boot off of the >disk, the second is if it had been connected to a network, that it can't >find NFS Swap space. My guess would be the second, after all how many >people bother to wipe disks? No idea how to fix it, the best bet would be >a clean install of AIX. > >BTW this is a RS/6000 machine. > > Zane > > >| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | >| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | >| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | >+----------------------------------+---------------------------+ >| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >| and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | >| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | > > > >

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Follow-up PS320

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Thanks for the follow-up answer and I will see if I can get a copy of AIX >from some where. At 07:02 PM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote: >> Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the >> Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but >> I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320. >> Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like >> trade or sell. > >Version 1.3 of the "Diagnostics Programs: Operator Guide" does not list >554 as an error code. 553 is Phase 1 of IPL completed, and 558 means there >is not enough memort to complete the IPL. > >My guess is that 554 means that the IPL aborted for some reason, as if >someone wiped out the disk. During the last half of the IPL, numbers >between 700 and 999 should be seen. > >I assume that this 554 comes up after a few minutes of booting. Generally, >all of the BIST (Built In Self Test) stuff occurs in the first minute or >so (makes sense) and has codes in the 200 range. Note that half of the >codes are not error messages, but just status. > >I would say the machine is most likely fine, but you may need to get >another copy of AIX. > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > >

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Fellow's got cards...

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

...coming out of his ears, darn near. If any of you have need of DEC cards for MicroVAXen, I'd check with this guy. Attachment follows. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mzthompson(a)aol.com To: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net Subject: M7546 TK50 Controller <personal message snipped> In the event that you may have an intereset in some of the other cards I have, I will paste a list to the end of this. Regards, Mike Thompson --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : KA630-AA Module No: M7606 Card Desc: CPU Module Quantity : 6 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : MS630-BB Module No: M7608 Card Desc: 4 MB Memory Module Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : MS630-CA Module No: M7609 Card Desc: 8 MB Memory Module Quantity : 11 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : KDA50-Q Module No: M7164 & M7165 Card Desc: SDI Disk Interface Quantity : M7164 - 4, M7165 - 3 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : DQ256 Module No: Card Desc: SDI Interface Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : TSV05 Module No: M7196 Card Desc: Tape ? Controller Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : RQDX3 Module No: M7555 Card Desc: Disk Controller Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : TQK70-SA Module No: M7559 Card Desc: TK70 Tape Controller Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : KLESI Module No: M7740 Card Desc: TU81 Tape Controller Quantity : 1 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : DEQNA Module No: M7504 Card Desc: Ethernet Interface Quantity : 4 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : DELQA Module No: M7516 Card Desc: Ethernet Interface Quantity : 2 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : DELNA Module No: M7513 Card Desc: Expander Module, connects external RD50 or RX50 to controller Quantity : 3 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : TQK50 Module No: M7546 Card Desc: TK50 Tape Interface Quantity : 5 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : DZQ11 Module No: M3106 Card Desc: 4 Line Async Multiplexer (dual height card) Quantity : 2 --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- Part No : CXY08 Module No: M3119 Card Desc: 8 Chan Async Interface Quantity : 1 Notes: 5400/5500, Have more, plus have 6 cable assemblies --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Win95 + irritable user WAS: Re: FS: Mac Plus

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

At 09:24 AM 07/09/97 -0400, you wrote: > Because RedHat or Debian will have support for just about >every hardware option he might ever need, has precompiled applications >in a simple to use and install format (.rpm or .dep), and simple X >based TK configuration utilities *somewhat* similar to Windows' control >panel. > Minux is pretty cool, and until Linux-Lite comes out, the only >option for a free Unix like OS (that I know of) on the 8088/80286. >But from what I saw, he has at least a 386. I've got a 386DX-20 >running Linux performing IP-Masquerading (in kernel IP translation - >which minux most definitely *won't* do) and routing, name services for >my internal network, a small web server for documentation (to other >internal machines), and as a slow SCSI backup server to an old Exabyte >(which was the free find of the century, I might add) and am perfectly >happy with it's performance and utility. It's simple to install, >simple to configure, and once it's done I can leave it up and running >without concern. For example: > Granted that MINIX cannot compare to Linux when it comes to apps and support, the reason I suggested it was because he wanted to install it on 386 portables. There are enough apps out there for MINIX for the basics, and the list grows everyday. Also I was thinking of disk space, MINIX only requires 30mb of space, so it would be ideal for portables... As for being simple to install... well, since when did people like us who collect classic machines worry about anything being simple ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Win95 + irritable user WAS: Re: FS: Mac Plus

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

At 12:57 AM 07/09/97 -0800, you wrote: >Couple of questions. How much does Minix cost now days? Last I looked it >was ~$200 for the PC, although I'll admit this was back in '92 when it was >a fairly good alternative to Linux (I remember when Linux didn't have a >login prompt, you were dropped staight to single user). You can get a 6-CD >Linux set for $25. > >Second, what major UNIX apps are there for Minix? Linux has basically all >the freeware ones (when it comes to UNIX don't let the term freeware scare >you away, it's often far better than commercial PC software). Yikes! $200.00! I didn't think it was that much, I was under the impression that it was in the range of $30.00-$40.00 dollars US. Of course, I could be mistaken, maybe that is the price for i86 version... I don't think there are many apps out there for MINIX (as compared to LINUX) but from what I could see, the list is growing everyday. I think MINIX would be great for a portable, unless of course the portable is the only machine you have. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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FS: Mac Plus

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

At 08:39 AM 07/09/97 -0500, you wrote: >20 of them just got trashed, but if you want a couple I'll be stopping in >the shop later this week and if they have a new batch in I will pick you up >a couple. We can settle up after I get them. They also have alot of SE's, >512's, and sometimes the 128's. There is also a thrift store here that >sells all computers for 80 cents including taxes. Everyone has started going >here and it's getting harder to catch any good machines there. If anyone >reading this is looking for HP stuff let me know as I passed on a complete >HP3000 for $10. Sounds good, any idea on how much shipping will be to St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada? I would be intersted in only one Mac Plus, as space is at a premium, although if you could find a Tandy Model 100 for a comparble price there (that 80 cents sounds really good) I would appreciate you picking one of them up as well. Thanks in advance... ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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HP 2100A available from Ann Arbor MI

by dlw＠neosoft.com

I don't think it will "die a horrible death." I emailed them yesterday when I first saw the newsgroup post and have heard back. I'll have to have it shipped but I figure it's the price I'll just have to pay. :-) I've been looking for one of these for years. ---------- > From: Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com> > Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 12:43 AM > > At risk of repeating someone elses post (I receive the digest form of > the list): > > Recently seen on the net: > > > An HP 2100A minicomputer will become available soon, in Ann Arbor, MI. > Don't let this one die a horrible death. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw

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Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want?

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Id love to have this. ---------- > From: will emerson <wpe(a)interserv.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want? > Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 6:17 PM > > Hello, > Not sure this is the proper place for this, and I apologize if it > isn't, but I have > a Mattel Intellivision setup (left for us by a long ago former tenant of > a property > we used to own) with a bunch of cartridges. I have no clue as to whether > the > thing works, as it's been in a box in my basement for a good five years > (and, who > knows how long in the basement of the previous owner), but, if someone > wants > to "give it a home", please let me know. Located in Sudbury, Mass. USA. > > > Will >

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Model 100 Schematics

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

There's Model 100 web site that offers free tech help and software for the 100 At 09:17 PM 9/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >A friend of mine and I both have TRS Model 100s with problems and I am >looking for schematics to the unit. If anyone has them for sale, cost of >copies, scanned in, etc., I would much appreciate hearing about it. Thanks! > > >

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MicroVAX modules

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

On Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:04:42, Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> wrote: >>My module list is about 3000 pages and fills 6 binders. Not exactly >>convenient to carry around, but it is (fairly) comprehensive. Can you e-mail it to me?? <g> I didn't realize that it was that lengthy. Is is broken-down in any way (like by model), or is it a sequential list from "M0000" to "M9999"? I'd be interested in the sections dealing with the uVAX-I, uVAX-II, and the PDP-11/34. Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking

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Sinclair kits

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Hi! You probably already know, but I just found a keen site selling Sinclair ZX81 kits in the US. Apparantly they opicked up the original kits years ago, and are only now trying to sell them. I am interested in putting one of these togeather, as the ZX81 was a fascinating computer, and highly significant in the Home Computer industry - especially in the UK. Anyway, it's at: http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts and all the standard disclaimers apply. :) Adam.

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Atari 400 power supply

by adam＠merlin.net.au

I finally managed to get one of these yesterday, including a number of carts and a cassette drive, but there was no official power supply with it. Instead I found a 9 volt DC supply mixed in the cables in the shop, but I am not entirly certain if it is for this computer. It is likely, but I don't feel like taking any risks. The Atari FAQ says that it took a 9v AC supply in the US, but the plug on this one looks like a DC plug, and the comments on the European version seemed to suggest that it used a DC supply. Does anyone know what would be appropriate to use in Australia? Thanks heaps, Adam.

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Intellivision stuff..

by wpe＠interserv.com

Hi Everyone, Allison was the first respondant, so, gets first option. If then, not claimed, then I will re-contact those of you who also have expressed interest. Thanks! Will Please take note of the following, when attempting to reply to this message.... -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

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Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want?

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Just out of curiosity, does this one have the computer keyboard and stuff? I found one the other day with the keyboard (and I am trying to get it), but I have no idea how common they were. Adam.

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Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want?

by COAKLEY＠AC.GRIN.EDU

Ooooh, I've been looking for an Intellivision. I'm happy to pay shipping, etc. to get it out to Iowa, which is where I am. Let me know, -- Ben Coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley

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Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want?

by wpe＠interserv.com

Hello, Not sure this is the proper place for this, and I apologize if it isn't, but I have a Mattel Intellivision setup (left for us by a long ago former tenant of a property we used to own) with a bunch of cartridges. I have no clue as to whether the thing works, as it's been in a box in my basement for a good five years (and, who knows how long in the basement of the previous owner), but, if someone wants to "give it a home", please let me know. Located in Sudbury, Mass. USA. Will

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HP 2100A available from Ann Arbor MI

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

At risk of repeating someone elses post (I receive the digest form of the list): Recently seen on the net: > An HP 2100A minicomputer will become available soon, in Ann Arbor, MI. > This is a machine I once worked on, but I can't take it (no space) so > if anyone wants an old workhorse of a machine with some significant > position in history, please take it. > The thing is a typical late 1960's or early 1970's rack mounted > minicomputer; I'm sure it can be safely de-racked. It can probably > be shipped UPS, but it would be at the upper end of the UPS size and > weight range, so it may have to go motor freight. > There may be a DEC RX01 and an RK05 drive attached to it (I'm not > sure which of the HP machines at Michigan had what peripherals, but > the disk drives they used were from DEC). These can be deracked and > shipped separately, but they're commodity parts, in a relative sense, > while the HP2100 is not a commonplace machine. > Doug Jones > jones(a)cs.uiowa.edu I would love this machine but shipping to Europe is out of the question :-( Don't let this one die a horrible death. Regards, Hans

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Help with EPROM programmer

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Hello, all: I got my hands on a PC-based EPROM programmer S/DRAM tester IC tester. There is an ISA add-in card and an external box with ZIF sockets. The only thing that I am missing (doh!) is the software diskette. The board is manufactured by Yih-Lung (Hong Kong), model# YL-23. It has two microcontrollers, both are Motorola 6821. I know that this is a loooong shot, but can anyone point me in any direction to find a replacement disk. Thanks! +============================================+ | Rich Cini/WUGNET | <rcini(a)msn.com> | MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking, | Charter ClubWin! Member (6) and a | collector of classic computers +============================================+

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VAX RESCUE NEEDED: Ilinois area

by thedm＠sunflower.com

In im Kansas, and have plenty of space, but no means by which to transport. ---------- > From: Scott Ware <s-ware(a)nwu.edu> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: VAX RESCUE NEEDED: Ilinois area > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 3:00 PM > > On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 kyrrin2(a)wizards.net wrote: > > > Heads up! Got an 11/780 that needs rescue in Ilinois. Contact the > > fellow directly for details. > > As an apartment dweller, an 11/780 is out of my league; however, I may be > able to assist in the rescue if anyone else has space available and just > needs help, especially if there are "extra" SMD drives involved. > > I'm in Chicago, as is the contact. The machine is near Milwaukee. > > Anyone? > > -- > Scott Ware s-ware(a)nwu.edu

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VAX RESCUE NEEDED: Ilinois area

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Heads up! Got an 11/780 that needs rescue in Ilinois. Contact the fellow directly for details. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- Xref: xyzzy comp.sys.dec:14845 From: eric(a)oxygen.aps.anl.gov (Eric Lindert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: VAX 11/780 Free to good home Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:28:06 GMT Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v4f16$81i(a)milo.mcs.anl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: oxygen48.aps1.anl.gov Path: xyzzy!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.174.169.7!winternet.com!news.myna.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter1!news.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!oxygen!eric VAX 11/780 free to good home: Have VAX 11/780 with 3 FUJITSU hard drives, 9 track tape transport, 2 consoles, all documentation, software, cards, racks, etc. Have moved, and do not have room any longer. System is in Shorewood, WI (near University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee). Must sacrifice soon. Please respond directly, not to newsgroup, as I don't have time to address each. Eric Lindert eric(a)aps.anl.gov home: (630)493-1837 wk : (630)252-9424 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, SSG Computing Support (253) 773-8576 Bldg. 18-04.2, Col. G1 Boeing ISDS, Kent Space Ctr. b.lane(a)pss.boeing.com "...No matter how hard we may try, our science can only describe an object, event, or living creature, in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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VAX RESCUE NEEDED: Ilinois area

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Who is the illinois contact? ---------- > From: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: VAX RESCUE NEEDED: Ilinois area > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 2:16 PM > > Heads up! Got an 11/780 that needs rescue in Ilinois. Contact the > fellow directly for details. > > -=-=- <snip> -=-=- > > Xref: xyzzy comp.sys.dec:14845 > From: eric(a)oxygen.aps.anl.gov (Eric Lindert) > Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec > Subject: VAX 11/780 Free to good home > Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:28:06 GMT > Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois > Lines: 14 > Distribution: world > Message-ID: <5v4f16$81i(a)milo.mcs.anl.gov> > NNTP-Posting-Host: oxygen48.aps1.anl.gov > Path: > xyzzy!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.174.169.7!winternet.com!news.myna.com!www.nntp.pr imenet.com!globalcenter1!news.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.n et!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!oxygen!eric > > VAX 11/780 free to good home: > > Have VAX 11/780 with 3 FUJITSU hard drives, 9 track tape transport, > 2 consoles, all documentation, software, cards, racks, etc. > Have moved, and do not have room any longer. System is in Shorewood, > WI (near University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee). Must sacrifice soon. > Please respond directly, not to newsgroup, as I don't have time to > address each. > Eric Lindert > eric(a)aps.anl.gov > home: (630)493-1837 > wk : (630)252-9424 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Bruce Lane, SSG Computing Support > (253) 773-8576 Bldg. 18-04.2, Col. G1 > Boeing ISDS, Kent Space Ctr. > b.lane(a)pss.boeing.com > "...No matter how hard we may try, our science can only describe an > object, event, or living creature, in our own human terms. It cannot, > in any way, define any of them..."

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MicroVAX

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Tim: >>According to the "Edited Option/Module List" that I have, there are >>no fewer than 21 variations of the M7551, ranging from 1 to 4 >>MBytes of memory. Generally, the -A suffix indicates 1 Mbytes, >>the -B indicates 2 Mbytes, and the -C indicates 4 Mbytes. The >>next letter in the suffix indicates the source of the DRAM chips. At least I'm not crazy (in spite of what people may say!) about the RAM size. My M7551 carries the "CF" suffix. Is there a way that I could get a copy of your module list?? The one that I have from the VAX forum on CompuServe seems to leave out key information. It would be helpful to me for when I go shopping at Temple U. in October. Here's the revised configuration (I actually coppied the numbers down this time). Slot TOP BOTTOM function 8 open open 7 M7512 open buss extender 6 M8639-YA {same} RQDX1 disk controller 5 M9047 M7504 continuity / Ethernet 4 M3104 {same} serial EIA mux-8 3 M7551-CF {same} memory 2 M7135 {same} processor 1 1 M7136 {same} processor 2 Slot 1 is the first slot on the right facing the bulkhead. The buss extender is used to connect to an external RD52 hard drive. Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking

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A REALLY old & interesting system offer.

by ccm＠sentex.net

Forwarded from the COMMPUTERSEUM: From: mib(a)juno.com (Morton I. Bernstein) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 02:06:19 EDT Do you know anyone who wants an early serial number Britton-Lee Data Base machine. The first of the kind. It can be had for the cost of transporting it from Los Angels to wherever. Mort Bernstein

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New finds and info needed

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I get a 554 code ?? Thanks loads for the info and I hope this code is not a bad one. At 10:36 AM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >> 1. IBM Powerstation 320 with a 19' monitor 6091-19 with cable (3 BNC), >> anyone having some info this unit I could use it. Can't get it to show >> anything on the monitor. All lights are on. > >What does the numeric display on the box do? It should spew out lots of >different numbers (POST (Power On Self Test) and results - a blinking 888 >is really BAD, getting stuck on other numbers can also be bad). I have the >service manual for the beasts, and it describes all of the codes. Let me >know what your machine does. > >> 2. IBM Powerstation 220 with 17" monitor this unit is locked in service mode >> and I did not get a key. Any info this one would be great. > >Without a key you are in trouble. They are special keys that are basically >unique to the machine (unlike the famous DEC key). At least in service >mode, you should be able to get the cover off - if it were in "secure" or >"normal", the cover would also be locked. > >> 6. About 10 very large boxes full of IBM PS/2's and other parts. I have >> very busy weekend with these boxes. > >If there are MCA cards in there, check to see if any are for the RS/6000s >- they are different, but look fairly similar to the PS/2 variety. > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > >

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dumb terminals

by dastar＠crl.com

A couple people (Richard Cini, William Hayes) were interested in the terminals and requested more information. Here's some blurbs from the manuals: First the CIT-101e Video Terminal by CIE Terminals (a C.Itoh electronics company): The CIT-101e is directly interchangeable with the Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) VT100 Video Terminal. The CIT-101e can operate in one of two modes, ANSI or VT52. In ANSI mode the CIT-101e is compatible with American National Standards Institute (ANSI) programming standards. In the VT52 mode the CIT-101e is software compatible with DEC VT52 terminals. Standard features include a full and half duplex communication channel, RS-232-C or 20 mA current loop communication interface, an auxiliary full duplex port, an alternate character set, and temporary storage of up to three display pages. Next, the AT&T Information Systems DataSpeed 4425 Display Terminal: Hmmm, well there's no real good descriptive blurb to type up like the CIE manual had. This terminal can be configured in the setup to do VT52 escape sequences. I don't think it has a current loop interface as I don't see any mention of one. It does have an "integral modem", which is actually an external box. It goes up to 1200 baud. You can dial the modem right from the terminal by hitting the F1 key. Both these terminals can do 132 columns. I don't know if that excites anyone but I thought I'd mention it. I'll tell the guy to hold off on dumping them until you folks have made up your minds. Again, there's also a ton of switchboxes, cables and gender changers. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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MicroVAX help

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:40:47, Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> wrote: >>Part of the confusion may have arisen because the Richard (the owner of >>the Microvax I, if I follow the attributions correctly) didn't >>post the full M-numbers of all the cards. It's possible that he >>has a 4 MB memory card that is only half-populated; the alphabetic >>suffix to the M-number determines how it was populated at the factory. I thought it odd that the M-number for the memory card is listed in some info that I have as "1mb MOS memory card", but Ultrixboot reports 4mb of RAM. I don't recall seeing a letter suffix, but frankly, I wouldn't have known to look -- this is my first DEC system, so I'm not familiar with their numbering conventions. I also haven't yet pulled the cards from the backplane in order to inspect them. My time has been spent rebuilding the power cable and trying to get the external RD52 to work. From "memory", here's the backplane configuration: Slot TOP BOTTOM function 8 open open 7 {M7954?} open buss extender 6 M8639 {same} RQDX1 disk controller 5 M7502 {M7948??} Ethernet / {slot filled} 4 M3104 {same} serial EIA mux-8 3 M7551 {same} memory 2 M7135 {same} processor 1 1 M7136 {same} processor 2 I can't remember what's in the remainder of slot 5, but since the unit has floppies, the M7948 is a guess. I'll take a better inventory tonight. More to come... ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking

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Someone has a Z100 for sale ...

by groberts＠mitre.org

this was posted on comp.sys.zenith.z100. $100 seems high to me given the condition of this machines and the fact that it's a bare bones configuration - i recently got one of these plus tons of software for free. these puppies are heavy too so watch the shipping costs. on the plus side: this is a very nice CP/M machine. S-100 bus; dual CPUs (8085 and 8088) and much of the CP/M BIOS actually executes on the 8088 CPU! please reply to the original poster (not me). tx. - glenn From: "John Pfuntner" <mrbruno(a)earthling.net> 8/24/97 12:21 Subject: z-100 for sale (circa 1984)... cheap? I'm offering the following dinosaur for sale: Zenith Z-100 computer (bought as a student at Clarkson College in 1984): 256K RAM (I will also throw in the original 192K chips) Monochrome display 2 5-1/4" "Half-height" Floppy Drives Video memory for shades of grey *NO* hard drive! Software for above: DOS, Z-BASIC, Multiplan, Pascal/Fortran Compilers, Turbo Pascal A few other disks with games and utilities. Condition: good, a couple of keys don't work too well. Computer has not been used in the past 6 years. Price: I'm looking for $100 *plus* shipping but will consider any offer. I want to get rid of it by December or else it will probably end up in the computer graveyard. For more info or bids, contact: John Pfuntner, pfuntner(a)pobox.com. +=========================================================+ | Glenn F. Roberts, Falls Church, VA | Comments are my own and not the opinion of my employer | groberts(a)mitre.org

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dumb terminals for cheap (or free?)

by dastar＠crl.com

I know a guy who has a few old dumb terminals which are brand new in the box (with the original packaging tape on them) circa 1982 or thereabouts. I bought a couple from him at a weekend swap meet for $5 a piece. He still has about 4 or 5 more. He also has a bunch of new in box 3to1 or 2to1 switchboxes, as well as a whole mess of brand new shielded serial cables, some in lengths of 20' and perhaps 50'. All this will go to the dump unless someone wants them. He's willing to ship and will take very little for them. So if anyone wants a brand new dumb terminal or some cables, let me know and I'll pass you along his number (I don't have it on me right now). He's local to me and I could arrange to ship. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Difference between Heath H88 and H89?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I just got some service manuals for the old Zenith system today and will send you some info as soon as I read them. At 10:03 AM 9/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >Just when I think you can't find any genuinely old computer stuff in >thrift stores anymore, I come across something that changes my mind. > >This weekend it was a beautiful, mint condition Heath H88. Don Maslin, >keeper of the CP/M disk archives, has CP/M for the Heath H89, but >doesn't list the H88. Does anyone know what the difference is between >an H88 and H89? Externally, they look identical except for the badging. >Are they software compatible? > >thanks > >Kai > > >

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Difference between Heath H88 and H89?

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Opps! Read "floppy disk controller" for "hard disk controller" in the > original reply. Silly me; I assumed you meant "hard sectored disk controller". In this case, a synchronous serial chip with its SYNC input attached to the drive's Index pin. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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FS: Mac Plus

by manney＠nwohio.com

Wayull...I don't deal im Macs, so I don't know prices. I'm just passing along what he wants. What's it worth? $300!? I know its not april fool's day. I must have got a deal of the century when I got a mac ][cx and 3.5 drive for $25... david In a message dated 97-09-06 14:26:50 EDT, you write: << A friend (yes, Virginia, I do have a friend) has a Mac plus for sale. 80 MB HDD (I think)...software includes Claris Works and some other stuff. He wants $300 US, but will probably be willing to negotiate. manney(a)nwohio.com >>

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Difference between Heath H88 and H89?

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

This one has a built in Percom floppy (the kind with the big door), so it must be an H89. It says H88 on the back, but if an H89 is just an H88 with the floppy controller + drive, then this one has been upgraded to an H89. Cool, I'll order the H89 CP/M from Don. The front badge just says "Heathkit Computer". thanks Kai > ---------- > From: David C. Jenner[SMTP:djenner@halcyon.com] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 10:32 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: Difference between Heath H88 and H89? > > Kai Kaltenbach wrote: > > Does anyone know what the difference is between > > an H88 and H89? Externally, they look identical except for the > badging. > > Are they software compatible? > > The H88 was a cassette-based Z-80 system. I got one by upgrading an > H-19 terminal. (I believe you could also buy it as a system.) When > you > upgraded, you replaced the H-19 "badge" with an H-88 "badge". > > You could also upgrade the H-88 to an H-89 by adding a hard disk > controller and floppy disk. When you upgraded, you replaced the H-88 > "badge" with an H-89 "badge". > > So, it's quite possible that not only do they look identical > externally, > they look identical internally. If what you saw DOESN'T have a floppy > disk, then maybe it is the cassette-based system. Look inside. I > have > the cassette software, if you are masochistic enough to want a copy of > it. > > You might be able to find a hard disk controller and make it into an > H-89, if you like. It shouldn't be too hard to find a floppy drive > that > works, just plug in a DEC RX50 dual floppy! My H-89 has in fact the > original prototype (DAM Drive) of the dual floppy, made by T and E > Engineering. DEC later bought them out for the Rainbow/uPDP/uVAX, > etc. > If you need an RX50 drive, I can get you one. > > Dave >

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Difference between Heath H88 and H89?

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Just when I think you can't find any genuinely old computer stuff in thrift stores anymore, I come across something that changes my mind. This weekend it was a beautiful, mint condition Heath H88. Don Maslin, keeper of the CP/M disk archives, has CP/M for the Heath H89, but doesn't list the H88. Does anyone know what the difference is between an H88 and H89? Externally, they look identical except for the badging. Are they software compatible? thanks Kai

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MicroVAX help

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Allison wrote: <> The uVAX-II <> offered 1meg of ram on card, FPU and a faster memory interface(PMI) <> along with denser 1mb, 2mb, and 4mb (and later 8/16mb) cards. This made <> a 5mb microvax-II possible in two cards instead of 7 using uVAX-I! < <AFAIK the MicroVAX I can't do 5MB no matter how many cards you have. It's <a pure QBus machine; all memory lives on the QBus and there is no <scatter/gather map to allow it to get to more memory than the QBus can <address, which is 4MB. Right you are. But in the context of what I said, you see that 5mb uVAX-I was difficult for power and bus space reasons as well... the fact that the microvax-1 didn't not have PMI(over the top memory connect) and Q22 could not address more than 4mb was just one more limitation. What happend in real world cases is the total load on the power supply was way to great or you ran out of slots! The one I ran for a while back in 86 at DEC was 2meg running microVMS. That box was full! 2 quads for the cpu, 2 quads for the memory, 1 quad DHV11, 1 quad RQDX2, 1 dual for tk50, 1 dual for DEQNA, 1 RD53. The power supply on that one ran at 95%. It was slow but I was one of the few with a vax under my desk! ONE ITEM: BA23 boxes have a cable from the power supply to the backplane. There are two different ones. There is one with variable length wires that looks neat and tidy making the bend. That cable is bad news! It was ECOed back in the late 80s as the +5 and ground are parallel lines! The cable had different length leads and the shorter ones having lower resistance would hog all the current. This would cause a serious overload of the connector pins with resulting is possible destruction of the power supply and backplane. This would occur at less than rated load! The correct cable has ALL of the wires the same length to circumvent this problem. The revised cable was tested at 200+% of rated load and did not exhibit the failure mode. So if you playing with MicroPDP-11s or VAXen in the ba23 box check for that flaky cable and replace it if possible or at least check it for signs of overheating at either connector. It's molex pins and if not damaged the connector bodies can be reused. Allison

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Burroughs Computers

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Hi! I have a lead on a computer, a Burroughs 6800, that is apparantly being kept in a store-room and not being used. It seems I should be able to get it if I asked. My question is - do I want it? Mostly I have limited myself to micros, as they are small and fit my own interests, but I have always been willing to accept larger systems. But as a result I know nothing about Burroughs - is this thing huge, or what? Is it rare, common, powerful or just dull? Any information would be greatly appreciated, especially where it fits into the general history of computers. Thanks heaps, Adam.

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MicroVAX help

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Allison wrote: > The uVAX-II > offered 1meg of ram on card, FPU and a faster memory interface(PMI) > along with denser 1mb, 2mb, and 4mb (and later 8/16mb) cards. This made > a 5mb microvax-II possible in two cards instead of 7 using uVAX-I! AFAIK the MicroVAX I can't do 5MB no matter how many cards you have. It's a pure QBus machine; all memory lives on the QBus and there is no scatter/gather map to allow it to get to more memory than the QBus can address, which is 4MB. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Burroughs Computers

by prp＠hf.intel.com

> From: adam(a)merlin.net.au (Adam Jenkins) > > I have a lead on a computer, a Burroughs 6800, that is apparantly being > kept in a store-room and not being used. Adam, The Burroughs 6800 is a large mainframe. It will require 208-220v 3-phase power and probably air conditioning. I suppose you probably don't want it. Burroughs machines are rare, especially one this old. Burroughs had a policy of taking back their old machines in trade, which they would then destroy to avoid having used machines in competition with their new ones. It is an interesting machine historically, although possibly not the most interesting in the line which is now called the A-Series. Probably about the first in the line was the B5000. The famous early machine was the B5500, there was one at the University of Wisconsin and it was about the first machine I ever used. I remember one of the UW professors contributed to the 6800 architecture (suggestions, at least) and there was a big fuss about whether to get it or a Univac. They ended up with the Univac 1108. The 6800 was to have been a big improvement over the 5500 but was quite late or something. The A-series computers are stack machines. Its a very interesting architecture. At the time of the B5000 series it was considered ahead of its time, but now that architecture is essentially dead. The most recent new stack machine I know of is the original HP 3000 minicomputer from the late 70's early 80's. It is inherently difficult to get a stack machine to run very fast, like today's superscalar microprocessors. But a stack architecture results in small code. The virtual machine for Java byte code is a stack architecture. There are a number of other historically and architecturally interesting things about the Burroughs A-series line and probably the 6800 in particular. If you remember TRON, the evil "MCP" gets its name from the Burroughs operating system (Master Control Program.) There is a Burroughs thread running at the moment in alt.folklore.computers. Please find out if its just the machine or if there is documentation and/or software. I would like to see the whole machine saved, but if that turns out to be impossible at least maybe good docs can be saved. Ideally there would be hardware manuals including user reference manuals and schematics, diagnostic software and manuals, operating system and application software and manuals. Possibly if the closet contains only the machine other folks may have documentation in their office. If you don't want it I would be very interested, but if you are in Australia it could be very expensive to haul it back here. Please keep in touch and let us know what you find out. Paul Pierce http://www.teleport.com/~prp/collect/

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Boxed Commodore Plus/4

by dastar＠crl.com

I know someone locally who's trying to sell a complete boxed Commodore Plus/4 for $25. If anyone's interested I'll hook you up with him. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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New finds and info needed

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I spent the morning at an auction and got the following; 1. IBM Powerstation 320 with a 19' monitor 6091-19 with cable (3 BNC), anyone having some info this unit I could use it. Can't get it to show anything on the monitor. All lights are on. 2. IBM Powerstation 220 with 17" monitor this unit is locked in service mode and I did not get a key. Any info this one would be great. 3. MAC LC III with full display monitor unit works and is loaded with software. 4. MAC SE FDHD works great and is also loaded with software. 5. Apple TechStep testing unit with case, manuals, software, and cables. Now I really do some unit testing. 6. About 10 very large boxes full of IBM PS/2's and other parts. I have very busy weekend with these boxes. well that's it. see ya

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Sick C-64c

by thedm＠sunflower.com

The floppy drive incidently, works on other c64's just fine, and I have cleaned and calibrated it. ---------- > From: jpero(a)mail.cgo.wave.ca > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Sick C-64c > Date: Monday, September 08, 1997 4:38 AM > > > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:22:06 -0500 > > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > > From: "Bill Girnius" <thedm(a)sunflower.com> > > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > > Subject: Sick C-64c > > X-To: "Classic" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > > > I recently aquired a stack of c64's, these are the old brown type. Of (4), > > One works fine, 1 boots, and can run catridges, initializes the floppy on > > boot, but can never access it after boot, the other two have power but no > > video. Any ideas on these folks? > > Checkerboard or no display usually means memory is bad, replace all > 64k ram chips. > > Oddball problems usually traced to the VIA ic's blown by unbuffered > lines. Real easy to do to blow it if careless! > > Make sure you put the shield back on with those finger "pads" coated > with bit of heatsink paste on them, they're like poorman's heatsinks! > The video IC get brutally hot! > > Monitor the voltages for stablity and good idea to replace those big > capacitors just in case. The floppy drives I think is belt driven > type and needs bit of cleaning. I had a problem with one, inside > that small can there's 2mhz crystal and one TTL chip, That TTL chip > was baddie. > > Jason D.

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FS: Mac Plus Trashed?

by jolminkh＠c2.telstra-mm.net.au

> From: Greg Mast <gmast(a)polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu> > > Subject: Re: FS: Mac Plus > > > 20 of them just got trashed, but if you want a couple I'll be stopping in > That's amazing! 20 computers probably worth at least $25 each tossed in the > dumpster? What a waste! $500! Mac plusses are really still good machines. I > managed my business using Excel, Word and quicken on one until a couple years > ago (until I sold the business). The local shop here parts them out for repairs. There are regular wanted ads in Austalian newsgroups from a guy who turns them into fishtanks. Apparently a whole bunch of people do this.

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FS: Mac Plus Trashed?

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 08:39:09 -0500 > From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> > To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: FS: Mac Plus > 20 of them just got trashed, but if you want a couple I'll be stopping in > the shop later this week and if they have a new batch in I will pick you up > a couple. We can settle up after I get them. They also have alot of SE's, > 512's, and sometimes the 128's. There is also a thrift store here that > sells all computers for 80 cents including taxes. Everyone has started going > here and it's getting harder to catch any good machines there. If anyone > reading this is looking for HP stuff let me know as I passed on a complete > HP3000 for $10. That's amazing! 20 computers probably worth at least $25 each tossed in the dumpster? What a waste! $500! Mac plusses are really still good machines. I managed my business using Excel, Word and quicken on one until a couple years ago (until I sold the business). The local shop here parts them out for repairs. I did see our goodwill toss a Radio Shack Model 4P(??) and an Osborne the other day alond with a pile of PC Jr's and Commodore stuff. I almost grabbed them until I remembered I have a pile to get rid of and no time to play with them. Every Friday they clean (dumpster) the electronics section.

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