- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dastar＠wco.com

You know, I used to be guilty of this same thing, and feel like a total putz for having to say this, but John, it is not necessary to report to us every single item you pick up. We all get stuff and, quite frankly, if everyone here simply posted what they found and didn't actually talk about it, you'd have one HELL of a boring discussion. So, thanks but no thanks for the updates. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! On Wed, 31 Dec 1969, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > Well today made up for a slow week, got the following items: > Tandy 1400 LT > 2-IBM 8573 386 portables one works the other is for parts > NCR model 1002-6000 computer > HP 83 and a 85 > Corona luggable model PPC-21 > Informer model 207 with carrying case > Fluke 8088 interface POD model 900A-8088 > Logical QUV-T8 UV EPROM ERASER > Black Bell & Howell apple > Sun 4/110 > Atari XE system > SuperBrain II QD > CPT notebook model OC 1000 008 anyone have info on this one ???? > IBM 5322 with two 8" floppies built-in > IBM 3274-31C with 8" diskettes sofeware > Paper tape for PDP8 box says MAG TAPE ROUTINES (Diagnostic) and other paper > tape for the PDP8 and about 10 manuals. > GTEK model 7128 EPROM Programmer. > > It was a good rescue day. Keep computing !! > >

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Sphere papers gone

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I am not saying that the Sphere papers are of real historical significance <- the company simply did not last very long, and in my opinion, was a <producer of junk - but anything Sphere is very rare. Sphere was an example of some of the shadier companies, all flash and very little fire. At the time I'd wondered if they had shipped anything at all. In all I think they represented less than a 8month piece of the industry that had some con artists as well as serious vendors. <> I guess it's time for one of those questions I still don't have a good <> answer for. Where the foo has all the SS-50 stuff gone? Or is it still <> hiding? Or is it just not here in Sillycon Valley? SS50 was fairly popular and tended to build up into solid systems. The people that used them were not hardware hacks and tended more towards software and applications for their box. I have no idea where they went save for if I tripped over one I'd keep it as they were good machines. <I have seen very little as well. That says something, as the boards tend <to really stick out in the crowd. They never reached the popularity of the <S-100 stuff, and was probably made in quantities much smaller than just <about every other bus. I don't know. S100 was bigger, no question. SS50 was actually better early on. The problem with SS50 generally was it was 6800 cpu and that was not fast nor was it easy to plug non motorola cpus in to the bus. SS50 went >from 6800 to 6809 and prety much died there. the 6502 and the 68k were two others that would interface to that bus(more or less) but any of the 8080/8085/z80/8088 types had bus timing and signals that were radically different. S100 was less tied to the CPU despite it originating with 8080. Early on 6800 cpu was easy to get into as Moto had the big book for $25 and it had every bit of hardware and software info you could want. It's limitation was the fastest 6800 was 2mhz and you either liked it or didn't. Also I feel motos lack of timly follow on in the form of faster 6800s and far later 6809 and later still 68000 didn't help. Some of the AMI SBCs were pretty nice and the 6800 market had a greater selection of SBCs at attractive prices including the moto 6800d1/d2 kits. The other s100 cpus of the time were 9900, T-11(marinechip systems s100 pdp-11), 1802, sc/mp(1&II), Alpha micro(wd13 chipset), 6809, 68008/68000, 8088/6, 80188/6, 80286, z8000, NS16016(32032). I've also seen 8049, 8051 and 2900 bit slice used for s100 cpus. This diversity kept s100 going longer and offered choices that could please those that asprired to one cpu over another. Also other popular machines had companies offering s100 adators, KIM, TRS80 being two I remember. It backed up the idea that no one manufacturer could supply the diverse demand for interfaces to their systems that having a common bus(s100) could supply. I may add that S100 went beyond cpu, memory, serial, parallel and disks. The availability of prom/eprom/pal programmers, A/D, D/A, opto and relay I/Os, Voice, display, networks was extensive. This al la carte offering made pure one manufacturer s100 systems rare as multiple vendor systems integration was common. I may add you also had the <at least> three commercial busses STD(z80), multibus intel processors(and z80) and VME bus which was motorola cpus. It highlights the fundemental differences between the motorola and intel designs. The 6502 is fundamentally motorola interface and bus FYI. The Apple by default also created an aftermarket bus standard for the slots it had. Other busses that lasted a moment: Altair 680 (6800 based), digital group, ti99/4a expansion. There were others I'm sure. Allison

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VAX Unix Question + Thanks

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Thanks to all who provided info on the Sun 3/50. I can't wait to get it working. I have another question. I finally got a working replacement RD52 drive for my uVAX. The drive passes all tests that I run on it, and was in service previously. Now, what steps do I need to take to get it to be seen by Unix? I tried to "mount" it, but I keep getting some bizarre error that I can't remember at this time. TIA! Rich Cini/WUGNET rcini(a)msn.com ClubWin! charter member (6) MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking

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Help needed

by CharlesII＠nwohio.nwohio.com

I have an old NCR machine that I would like to get up and running. While I have everything intact what I really need is some way of interfacing it. There are numerous amounts of low density DB15 ports that I think have nothing to do with Ethernet since the spot that is labeled Ethernet is covered up with nothing behind the cover. What can I use to find out what is on this thing. The numbers on the data sticker are: class 3470-MSTD model 0202 serial 36-18259367 tracer 36-002591 Any ideas? I would also like to know where I can find a power supply for an Amiga A500. Charles Oblender

28 years, 6 months

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finally found: Your Computer

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

I'm overwhelmed at how many want this computer. I just wanted to let you all know that I am still trying to decide who gets it, and I'm slow at making decisions like that, so hang on guys. mhop(a)snip.net

28 years, 6 months

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Temple Univ. haul

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Well, I made another trip to Temple Univ. this weekend to pick-up more equipment. Alas, I did not get to the "records room" again because my contact was gone for the weekend and none of his co-workers knew where the file cabinets were. Oh well, I'll go back in December. Here's what I did get, though: 2-RD52 drives for the uVAX A copy of VisiCalc for the PC, version 1.2 A Sun 3/50 workstation (I need help with this one). I also saw a Chinese knock-off of an Apple II. Nothing on it said Apple, but the board was identical. It had a cheap plastic case and a metal base plate. I stashed it, so maybe I'll get it when I go down next. Regarding the Sun machine, it's a workstation-style case with a 17" (or 19"??) monitor attached to a base. It has an Ethernet port, 2 serial ports, and a SCSI port. The monitor has a DB9 connection, and the keyboard is a DB15. Unfortunately, there was no keyboard/mouse and no monitor cable. Can anyone help me out with these parts? More to come... Rich Cini/WUGNET rcini(a)msn.com ClubWin! charter member (6) MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking

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Sphere papers gone

by william＠ans.net

Those two M6800 Programmers Reference Cards from Sphere that I posted here a week or so back are now spoken for. Apparently there is not much call for ancient M6800 micro stuff, as I only got one response. I suppose if they were from the 8080 side of the fence, things would be different. William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

28 years, 6 months

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The Seattle Thrift Store Scene

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-10-04 01:07:53 EDT, you write: << On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Glenn Roberts wrote: > curious if you noticed any difference between "brand name thrift" (e.g. > Salvation Army & Goodwill) vs. small time shops? others here have > suggested that the latter is where all the "good stuff" is to be found. >> the small time shops here in nc don't have much, although i did find an apple rgb monitor for a gs there. there's one goodwill close to me that used to get plenty of old computers there, and even recent items, like an ncr ps/2 clone and vga monitor for$30! they usually priced computers and monitors there for $10 each, but they've raised the prices, probably because i'd go in there every week and buy what i found interesting. they had a ps2 8580 in there a while back for $75! i think some idiot actually bought it... david

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finally found: Your Computer

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I'll take it ---------- > From: mhop <mhop(a)mail.snip.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: finally found: Your Computer > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 8:30 PM > > A long time ago I told everyone here that I had a computer in my closet > somewhere, and someone asked me to let them know when I found it. > > "Your Computer" > with sound and music > for family, business, educational and entertainment use > > It's rubber keybad seems identical to the Timex Sinclair, well, not that black > Sinclair with the membrane keyboard, but the other one. It's housed in white > plastic, green rubber keys and... > > Japaneese intructions - except for the BASic listed programs inside. > > Z80A CPU > Expandable to 16k ram or 32 k ram > 42 Keys Keyboard > programmable speaker output > Direct drive a thermal printer > 24 rows by 32 characters video display using either home tv or monitor > 22 graphic symbol available > Reverse video characters available > Built in cassette interface (I don't know *what this might be..) > High resolution graphics capability > Automatic repeat on space bar insert, delete and cursor control keys > Programmable slow mode and fast mode > > .. and least that is what is says on the box. It's in its original box and > styrophome. > > Who wants it? It'll cost you the postage to send it. I live in Somerdale, > NJ. > > mhop(a)snip.net

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ATARI 1450XLD

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

> HELP! HELP! > Looking for a 1450XLD! > > Mike It will be hard to find. I think only a few prototypes were made by Atari.

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finally found: Your Computer

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

A long time ago I told everyone here that I had a computer in my closet somewhere, and someone asked me to let them know when I found it. "Your Computer" with sound and music for family, business, educational and entertainment use It's rubber keybad seems identical to the Timex Sinclair, well, not that black Sinclair with the membrane keyboard, but the other one. It's housed in white plastic, green rubber keys and... Japaneese intructions - except for the BASic listed programs inside. Z80A CPU Expandable to 16k ram or 32 k ram 42 Keys Keyboard programmable speaker output Direct drive a thermal printer 24 rows by 32 characters video display using either home tv or monitor 22 graphic symbol available Reverse video characters available Built in cassette interface (I don't know *what this might be..) High resolution graphics capability Automatic repeat on space bar insert, delete and cursor control keys Programmable slow mode and fast mode .. and least that is what is says on the box. It's in its original box and styrophome. Who wants it? It'll cost you the postage to send it. I live in Somerdale, NJ. mhop(a)snip.net

28 years, 6 months

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IBM powerstation, the answer here!

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I asked one of the old IBMers at work what this powerstation 550e i had was. turns out it is indeed part of the RISC6000 family. I guess what i have is just a workstation that ran batch jobs or something like that, not too useful by itself it seems. I presume it runs/ran AIX. it was difficult to find any info it. web search didnt bring up anything, and 800-IBM-SERV handles the RISC6K family, but they referred me elsewhere for this 550e, since they didnt know what it was. it only cost $5, and it is an interesting addtion to my ever growing esoteric collection of ibm machines. now, if i could just get this powerstation to run with my PC RT... david

28 years, 6 months

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The Seattle Thrift Store Scene

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

Greetings All, I've been making the rounds of Seattle-area thrift stores. Not much CP/M stuff, mostly PC compatible. Found several XT's with hard drives and full of cards for $5 each. Most ISA boards such as Mono, serial, parallel go for $1. B&W and CGA monitors go for $3-10. 5-1/4" DSDD floppy drives go for around $2 each. There's one store that has a Televideo system for $60. Rather steep, but they have a 1/2 price sale Sunday and I'll probably grab it then - good companion to the 803H in my collection. There's a huge IBM Selectric Memory typewriter for $10, which I'll also grab at the 1/2 price sale. I recently found two Kaypro-II's for $5 each. Not much Apple hardware. How does this compare to thrift stores in other areas of the country? Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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YES!!!

by dastar＠crl.com

I AM FINALLY FREE FROM crl, THE PIMPLE ON THE ASS OF THE INTERNET! My new primary e-mail address is dastar(a)wco.com. Please do not ever even consider to consider using crl.com or I will find you and kill you to save you from the misery. I can also be e-mailed at dastar(a)siconic.com. All mail to dastar(a)crl.com will be forwarded automatically, but please update your address books. Thank you. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

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DISTRIBUTED SYSTEMS CQ2010.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

That's what that card was. What is it? Anyone know?

28 years, 6 months

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What is a Control Data QC2010?

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

It's a Qbus or Unibus quad-height module with what looks like a SCSI connector on it. Anyone know what it is? The number may be wrong, it may be 1020.

28 years, 6 months

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Need Apple IIGS software

by manney＠nwohio.com

A church with which I work was recently given an Apple IIGS (with "Woz" signature on the front, I notice). Does anyone have any children's educational software for Apple that he/she would be willing to donate or sell cheaply? You can get tax credit if you want. Please e-mail me -- manney(a)nwohio.com -- or contact the church directly: Pastor Leo Stewart Union Avenue Alliance Church 12700 Union Ave. Cleveland OH 44104 (216) 752-6184 Thanks -- you'll be doing inner city kids a great favor. P Manney "Un sot trouve toujours un plus sot qui l'admire."

28 years, 6 months

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CC> Bill Whitson operates this list

by dastar＠crl.com

I have no idea why people think I am the list-op of classiccmp, and I don't know how popular this opinion is, but I am, in fact, NOT the list-op. Bill Whitson is and any list related questions should go to him. This is the second time I've received a list related request. Go figure. Please update the cell in your brain which stores this information. Thank you. Now someone help this poor guy. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 04:35:10 -0500 From: Mark W Kuefel <kuefel(a)sky.net> To: dastar(a)crl.com Subject: A DIRECT PLEA TO ISMAIL FOR HELP (and kuefel somehow finds the shift key, details below) Sam I know this is pretty stupid but I need your help if possible. The classic computer list is generating far too many messages in the firehose mode for me to possibly keep up with. I'd like to go to digest, if available or, if necessary, unsubscribe for a while (I've been ill lately and sometimes lack the energy to even log in.) Now the stupid problem. I seem to have "misplaced" my subscriber info. I know that's dumb and, generally, I'm pretty good at keeping the email message as well as a hardcopy printout. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

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Slow day

by FAIAZMC＠hsd.utc.com

There's still plenty of them around. Most companies that had a S/36 have upgraded to its replacement, the A/S 400. ---------- From: John R. Keys Jr. To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Slow day Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 7:00PM Found a HP vectra QS/16 complete monitor,kb, and computer it will go into storage for now. Only other find today was 5 plastic bags at a thrift with S/36 System Support Programs, RPG, COBOL, utilities, and microcode from 1983 there a total of 45 - 8" diskettes. Each bag was $1.40 plus tax. Now were do I find a S/36. Keep computing!

28 years, 6 months

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Person needs help fixing 8" PerSci

by dlw＠neosoft.com

I just passing this along, can anyone help him repair his drives? Reply to him, Loufer(a)aol.com, not me. Thanks. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:24:51 -0700 To: dlw(a)neosoft.com From: Loufer(a)aol.com Subject: http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw/comp/comphave.htmlCromemco Z2D Dave, I have an entire Cromemco Z2D system that I purchased at an auction several years ago. It was completely disassembled, and was noted as 'computer junk' and sold as a lot. Assembled, it had two monitors, two 5-1/4 drives, two 8" (wood cabinet) drives and many extra S100 cards. There's an analog-digital IO card, 3 64K mem, 6 16K mem, Dazzler (still new and unassembled), set of joysticks, and other misc hardware. Although I'm not interested in selling it (it WAS my first computer after all), but I sure could use some help finding someone to repair one of the paired 8 inch PerSci drives. Michael --------------- End of Forwarded Message ----------- ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw

28 years, 6 months

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HP 9100 programming questions

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Tony Duell <ard(a)odin.phy.bris.ac.uk> wrote: > Have you tried pulling out the quick-ref card at the front? Assuming it's > still there (which it should be - it's not easy to remove), it will list > all the programming instructions. I completely missed this. Thanks for pointing it out. <gulp> I think I am going to have to turn in my Master of the Obvious card for this. > I think so. The idea of -ve program steps seems to be in the back of my > mind, but that may have been fast gotos (like the 67, etc) or something. Yes. There are two banks of memory on the 9100B, + and -. > No. The opcodes aren't really related to the key layout IIRC. They are > listed on that pull-out card, though. Yes they are. > > Can I use the STEP PRGM key to single-step forward non-destructively > > in program mode? How can I move backward, or to a given location in > > program mode? > > I think so, but could somebody else confirm this before you wipe you're > program... It's on the quick-ref card. This works as I expected. If I want to go back or go to an absolute location, I have to switch to RUN mode and do a GOTO from there, then switch back to PROGRAM mode. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 6 months

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HP 9100 programming questions

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Howdy, I am fooling with a 9100B calculator that used to be on exhibit, I'm guessing in the electronics museum that used to be at Foothill College. Toward that end it was hacked: a plexiglas strip was screwed to it above the switches, with cutouts for the switch handles that only let you move the power switch -- program/run, fixed/floating, and degrees/radians were all stuck on run, fixed, radians respectively. Well, I've removed that because I want to find out what if any programs were in its memory (core remembers things long after they're better forgotten), and so I want to flip the program/run switch over to PROGRAM. But I'm a little confused about the 9100's program mode, and unfortunately I don't have the manuals handy. When I flip the switch to PROGRAM, the display changes to what I am guessing is this: <step> <instruction> <Y mantissa> <Y exponent> <X mantissa> <X exponent> <step> seems to be represented as <hex digit>.<hex digit>. True? (And does this mean there are only 256 program steps?) Are <instruction> values 00-09 the keypad switches 0-9, and others in <column><row> form? And if so, where's <0><0> for the <column><row> form? Can I use the STEP PRGM key to single-step forward non-destructively in program mode? How can I move backward, or to a given location in program mode? Can y'all tell I'm spoiled rotten from having learned programmable calculators about 15 years later? -Frank McConnell

28 years, 6 months

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Apple II hard drive??

by bpvh＠primenet.com

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28 years, 6 months

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DEC-10 comparative power

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

About how fast is a DECsystem-ten compared to a Pentium or something? A friend and I got into a "whose computer is faster" fight. I have the 11/23, he has a Vaxserver 3100. I have the 44, he has his Pentium/something.(133 or 150?). I have a shell into a DEC-10, does that beat him, or do I lose? (I think it does, does anyone have the numbers?)

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by manney＠nwohio.com

If any is a DOS disk, there was a post recently... bcumming(a)mail.island.net wants DOS 3.2 or might be interested in some disks. manney >I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one >they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the >disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150 >is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the >web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. > > So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150 >disks, lemme know. > > Larry Anderson >-- >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ >Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > >

28 years, 6 months

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Advanced Integration Research Motherboard

by manney＠nwohio.com

Normally, 486 motherboards are set entirely in the CMOS setup program. Jumpers, etc. typically control speed and processor type. Are you having trouble getting it to come up? manney(a)nwohio.com >I have a 486lc motherboard and need to know about any of the settings >(i.e. jumpers and dip switch) and what the memory config is. thanks

28 years, 6 months

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New update on Comprehensive Computer Catalogue

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Today I place the new version of the CCC online. Now listing 3806 computers. In this revision I have set up the infra structure to link each system to its own page. The intent is to provide information and links for each system. See the entry for the Sperry SPEEDAC computer. BTW anyone heard of the ULTRAMAC computer built in the mid fifties? -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO >problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989).... I have added it to my web site, based on a) being obsolete, b) being a new concept for its time (first MS-DOS palmtop?), and, of course, c) being really keen. Anyway, 1989 is even starting to get old in computing terms. Adam.

28 years, 6 months

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[Fwd: Paper tape reader in Seattle anyone?]

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Found on Usenet, can anyone help out? -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by engine＠chac.org

At 19:38 10/1/97 -0800, you wrote: >....I am not certain if the 150 >is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the >web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. The HP-150 is: 1) vintage 1984, and 2) absolutely fascinating. It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989).... __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

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HP-150 disks...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150 is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150 disks, lemme know. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 6 months

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Unisys / Convergent Technologies X-bus CTOS/BTOS units in Thrift

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

While dropping by a local thrift (where classic game cartridges were last seen 1 and half years ago) I spotted at least 3 square modules which I recognized to be Unisys or Convergent Technologies machines which ran BTOS/CTOS. As I recall these modules snapped together along a bus (X-bus?) that ran along the bottom of each module. I didn't take a closer look to see what they were, but if anyone in the list is interested, I could go back for them to determine what is there and what price is wanted (yes, I'm offering to pick up and ship for a nominal fee - I'm just a nice guy..) Matt Pritchard matthewp(a)netcom.com mpritchard(a)ensemblestudios.com

28 years, 6 months

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Star Trek for CompuColor II

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

I played it about 5 years ago. I let the machine slip through my fingers though (thru neglect of interest). Still a chance it can be dug up... -Matt Pritchard > -----Original Message----- > From: Kai Kaltenbach [SMTP:kaikal@MICROSOFT.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 7:49 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Star Trek for CompuColor II > > Anyone have a copy of this gem? > > thanks > > Kai

28 years, 6 months

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Nicolet 290 needs home

by kmar＠lle.rochester.edu

At 06:14 AM 9/27/97 +0000, you wrote: >Found this on alt.folklore.computers > > We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that > need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years. >This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's >all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper >tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small >inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon >it'll get smashed up. > Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what >else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything >anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper >home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter >built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs >(Diablo) and manuals. > > Ken Montgomery > CSU Sacramento > kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery) > >I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? > >Ken Harbit >krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com > The Nioclet 290 is a dedicated instrument controller and data acquisition computer made by Nicolet Instrument Corp. in Madison, Wisconsin. Nicolet is a major manufacturer of Fourier transform (FT) infrared spectrometers, and at one time also manufactured FT Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrometers. I have one of the 290's great-grandchildren, the NIC 660, still operating a FTIR spectrometer in my lab. My system was purchased new in 1986, and is still running reasonably well. I don't know a lot about the 290, but what I can tell you about these computers in general is that they are essentially totally proprietary platforms that were designed and built from the ground up to control FTIR and FT NMR instrumentation and process spectral data. The design of the systems were optimized to handle fast Fourier transformation of spectoscopy data "on-the-fly" as it came off of the spectrometer. These computers use a proprietary operating system written by Nicolet (NICOS) which is somewhat Forth-like but has a user shell running on top. The user shell bears some resemblance to Unix. The 660 system I have has applications software for IR spectroscopy, some text editors, and compilers for Fortran, Basic, and Pascal. Nicolet stopped manufacturing these computers and switched over to PC's about 3-5 years ago, but still maintains some limited support (ie, parts and supplies) for these proprietary machines.

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CC> Who's on the list?

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

> > Hi, > > Is it possible to find out if someone is still subscribed to the list > other than sending a message to them through the list? What I really > want to know is: is there a way to get a list of the subscribers > from the listproc? Send mail to the List processor with: recipients classiccmp ..that should do it. If you send "help", it will send back an almost complete list of commands.

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by dastar＠crl.com

How funny. For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip. Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation for all I know. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 11:55 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to >another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as >well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a >computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm >going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old Please post (or at least e-mail me) with what you find out. The Vic9k has a special place in my heart (and my collection!) as my folks were considering purchasing one very early on and I remember being very impressed with its specs. They also had Victor adding machines (My dad was a CPA.) >it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation Well, if it is, don't worry about being sued; they probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on. 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Dead HP-97 calculator

by fmc＠reanimators.org

[Note: I saw Hans' message on comp.sys.hp.misc and replied privately, but figure there might be some other folks here who want to know this stuff.] Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com> wrote: > When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found > two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused > by pieces of these resistors in the case. > > Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for > these resistors? Time for some copying from the service manual. Useful information below is from the HP-97 Programmable Printing Calculator Service Manual, HP part number 00097-90130, dated August 1976. Table 4-9. Keyboard Printed-Circuit Assembly A2A1 (00097-60002) Replaceable Parts Ref HP p/n Description R1 0683-4715 RESISTOR, fxd, 470 ohm R2* 0683-2045 RESISTOR, fxd, 200K R2* 0684-3341 RESISTOR, fxd, 330K R3 0812-0058 RESISTOR, fxd, 8.2 ohm, 2W R4 0811-1674 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.7 ohm, 2W R5 0698-8691 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.0 ohm, 1% R6 0683-1835 RESISTOR, fxd, 18K, 5%, 1/4W R7 0683-3915 RESISTOR, fxd, 390 ohm CR1 1990-0450 LED, low battery indicator Q1 1853-0393 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q2 1853-0401 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q3 1853-0374 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q4 1854-0071 TRANSISTOR, NPN U1 1820-1629 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, cathode driver U2 1990-0595 DISPLAY, numeric U3, 4 1858-0044 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, quad transistors U5 1810-0252 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, resistor network P1, 2 1251-3955 CONNECTOR, 9-pin W1 8120-2206 CABLE, 24-conductor 00097-80002 BOARD, etched R2 is marked with a * because it is selected based on the cathode driver IC U1. I don't completely get this, but there is a chart (Table 4-8, Cathode Driver Resistor Selection Chart): U1 Category: I J R2: 200K 330K Given that you say the burned out resistors are "large" I am going to guess that you are looking for R3 and R4. Here's the layout toward the rear of the board if that helps. Q4 R7 R5 Q2 R6 Q3 R2 ---U5--- R1 ---U4--- ---U3--- -------- -------- ---U1--- -------- -----------J1----------- Q1 R3 R4 > What is the power input requirements for the HP-97? 12.8VAC (from paragraph 2-42). Actually there is a flowchart that includes a test for the AC adapter. For approximately 115VAC input, the output should be between V(in)/10.55 and V(in)/7.82; for 230VAC input, the output should be between V(in)/21.1 and V(in)/15.65. The next part of the test is to connect a 10 Ohm +/- 5% 5W load across the output of the AC adapter and measure the voltage across the load; it should be between 6.2 and 7.4VAC. Hope this helps! NB- I read your message in comp.sys.hp.misc. It looks like you might have posted it to classiccmp too. I am a bit behind reading that. Feel free to repost this there. -Frank McConnell

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came > across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an > apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on > the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to > open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what > this is. anyone know? Rather than merely endorsing William D's comments, I think I have one or two things to add... 1. The keyboards on our RS/6000s at work look exactly like PS/2 keyboards except there is an ID number printed in the margin of the Num Lock lamp sticker. It does not have the huge quantity of extra keys found on the 3270 workstations that I used to work with. 2. The RS/6000 are not very closely related physically to the 6150 (RT PC) family. Certainly neither our model 320 nor 375 have ISA slots - the slots are much more like the ones you describe. 3. However, I am puzzled by your physical description. I too expected a large tower for a 500 series powerstation. In fact I cannot think of any IBM product that looked like an Apple /// except possibly the Datamaster. Could the name Powerstation have been used for something other than RS/6000s? Philip.

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by Eros＠mail.dec.com

Geez, I remember that one. A office equipment company I used to work for sold those, along with some Xerox DOS box (800, maybe?), CPT word processing stations and CADO multiuser systems. My first foray into investments was buying 100 shares of Victor Technologies stock at $3/share. <<flush!>> :-) -- Tony Eros Digital Equipment Corporation ---------- From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 2:55 AM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: CC> Victor 9000 down the hall How funny. For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip. Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation for all I know. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Nicolet 290 needs home

by krh03＠csufresno.edu

Found this on alt.folklore.computers We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years. This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon it'll get smashed up. Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs (Diablo) and manuals. Ken Montgomery CSU Sacramento kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery) I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? Ken Harbit krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com

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Calling all Seattle and area readers

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Hi there, I will be in Bellevue WA for a week, arriving Saturday 4th Oct, leaving Fri 10 Oct. Anything going on that I would kick myself for missing? Regards, Hans B Pufal

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

concerning this powerstation, i doubt its a risc machine; i have an IBM PC RT which i will post about later, and that is entirely different from this box. i cannot see the main board because of the two floppy drives which are tilted up. there is 4 card slots, but they're not ISA. they look like long continuous ISA slots, about 6-7 inches long with a disk controller installed. the machine "posts" but i've no floppy and no video (yet) this machine also didnt have a key. just some latches which were pulled and the top came off. In a message dated 97-09-30 21:16:02 EDT, you write: << It is probably an older RS/6000 - however, I have never heard of a 550e (then again, IBM makes a lot of weird stuff). The 500 series RS/6000s are largish deskside towers. The desktop machines are the 200 and 300 series. Open the thing up! If it is an old RS/6000, it will have a processor board with eight or so big nasty looking chips - the Power RISC processor. The only thing that may give you trouble is that the key (if it has one) must be in the service position to get the cover off. >>

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generic 386 motherboard and processor available...

by manney＠nwohio.com

Sure. How much do you want? (uh...is it over 10 yrs old? This is *classic* computers, remember!) Is it an SX or DX? What MHz? Any RAM? manney(a)nwohio.com >Someplace around here, I've got a 386 motherboard and processor, that >replaced an >old DEC 33 mhz unit.. No clue (off the top of my head) who made it.. >Anybody want >the thing?

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what this is. anyone know? david

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Well, the physical description sounds a bit odd, but from the model number I believe you've got one of the early, pre-PowerPC RS/6000 RISC boxes. Hope it came with a keyboard... although they have standard-looking PS/2-style keyboard connectors, the RS/6000 boxes require a specific keyboard that looks kind of like a PC/3270 keyboard, with a built-in speaker. I've been looking for a keyboard for a friend of mine's machine for quite a while. Kai > -----Original Message----- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [SMTP:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 4:46 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: what is this? IBM powerstation > > I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today > came > across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much > like an > apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 > ports on > the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out > how to > open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers > what > this is. anyone know? > > david

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CC> AT&T terminal

by dastar＠crl.com

I've seen two interesting AT&T terminals lately. Both of them are the same. The screen is rather larger and squarish (about 10" both dimensions). The most interesting thing is it has what seems to be a carthridge slot on the side. There is a long white flap on the base unit that pushes in to reveal an card socket. Anyone have any ideas what the slot is for? Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Advanced Integration Research Motherboard

by lddgibson＠erols.com

I have a 486lc motherboard and need to know about any of the settings (i.e. jumpers and dip switch) and what the memory config is. thanks

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F100K

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Several days ago, William Donzelli wrote: > Was any machine (most likely mainframe class) ever built using F100K ECL > (the super fast stuff - even today)? The family is small but well thought > out, and includes some rather bizarre functions. When I went to Munich to visit my German pen friend 4+/-1 years ago, the Technical University of Munich had just thrown one out. It was made by Control Data Corp., and had a model number like 220 or something. Bernhard was then a student there, and got some bits as souvenirs. I did some swapping and ended up with 4M 18-bit words of 40 and 45 ns static RAM for possible use in one of my systems (I haven't yet!) and, as a museum piece, a card from the CPU. This CPU card was covered on one side in surface mounted 100000 series ECL, which I believe is the same as F100K. The other side of the card had a thin layer of insulator and a thick layer of steel - presumably to interface thermally to a cooling system. Philip.

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[Fwd: North Star Horizons For Sale]

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

A possible opportunity for someone... See attached message -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:09:09 GMT From: Mike Stute <lilthug(a)metronet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.northstar, dfw.forsale Subject: North Star Horizons For Sale I have 2 North Star Horizons and an Imsai 8080 that need a new home. I'm in the Dallas area. Make Offer. Mike (972) 242-1271

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