- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jwagg＠fs.cei.net

I recently picked up a 36 that appears to be in working condition. The only problem is no operating system. Anyone know where I can get the OS disks? Thanks in advance. Joe Wagg jwagg(a)fs.cei.net

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See if this sounds wierd...

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I just noticed something. The SLU for this 34 is in the SPC slots only. There are 2 backplanes in this box. The SLU board is just below the bus jumper. Is that normal? Bus B Bus A ----+ +----- M9202 | S | L | U ----+ +------

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Does anyone have the PDP-11/34 console cable pinout?

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I think this console cable's screwed, the machine boots OK but refused to talk to a console. Not even power-up line noise. And I know the terminal's good. Tried turning the cable both ways. Several wires are sunsoldered, but not any of the important ones... something's screwy with this cable. Anyone got a pinout of one?

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Archive Corp FT60 Adapter Board Jumper Settings

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I have an Archive FT60 tape drive (uses DC600A cartridges) that I am trying to install. I don't have complete information on the jumper settings of the adapter card (8-bit ISA). The card has several markings on it: Archive Corporation, FCC ID: EAX6GPSC499-R ?(unintelligible) A-200, 88 16, Rev B DET. 50594-01 e023391 Is there any chance that someone has specifications or an installation manual around for this adapter? Also, last version of the MS-DOS software (especially MS-DOS libraries to allow reading/writing, etc.) Thanks, Dave Jenner djenner(a)halcyon.com

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8" floppy power connections...

by dwalterm＠ix.netcom.com

I have a couple old double-sided 8" floppies I want to get running. Does anyone have the pinouts for the square molex power plug? I think its +5, ground and +24v and ground but would like to be sure before turning them on. One drive is a Magnetic Peripherals Inc (CDC)BR8A8B still in the CDC styrofoam package. The other is a pull from an HP 9895 drive (the belt had fallen off). I'd also like to know how big a power supply I'll need to run two of these.... Thanks, Don Walterman dwalterm(a)ix.netcom.com

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Two Items Needed

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Okay, thanks. But if there are any other old systems that someone would "give" to me? (Don't worry, I'll pay you for the costs of the computer as well as shipping.), like anything, I already have an XT, but that's it. (I'm REALLY interested, but just started collecting. Thanks everyone, Tim D. Hotze

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New toy.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I have the 2 PDP-11/34s in my possession now, and BOTH have tape drives! Too bad it runs too loud, or I'd be playing with it now... There were old DA boxes. Ran RT11, and had 64K of ram. I'll upgrade that, and drop on a copy of RSX11-M. I just hope that can fit on 2 RX02s... they have no harddisks. And the tape drives are some funny emulation, so this could get interesting... They have the chicklet-calculator frontpanels, not switches and lights (Darn!), but if I were to go get a few 11/45 boards, would this become a 45? Or is the frontpanel different between boxes?

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RSX-11M Tapes: Distribution or not?

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Are these RSX11M distrib tapes? They're small, like a 5 1/4" disk. I'll read off the labels: #1: BB-N353B-BC RSX11M V4.0 ATPCH B 16MT9 1/2 #2: BB-N680A-BC RSX11M V4.0 ATPCH B 16MT9 2/2 #3: BB-H881A-BC RMS-11K/RSX-11M V1.8 MT9

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Friday and Saturday Finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

As soon as the call comes in I will be driving down to get the items and will sell or trade all the excess items. Keep computing !! At 05:53 AM 10/26/97 +0300, you wrote: >Do you want to sell these things? Because if so, I'm really interested. >Where I live (In Bahrain, in the Mid-East), everyone has gotten rid of >anything 5+ years old. (But not to many people have anything much newer :) >!) I might have a lead on an Apple I, and other of the older models of >Apples, but that's with a friend in the US, but if I do get some, I'll let >everyone know. I REALLY want a NeXT cube, and a Sun, if you find enough. > Thanks, > > Tim D. Hotze > photze(a)batelco.com.bh > >---------- >From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> >To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers ><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >Subject: Friday and Saturday Finds >Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 4:12 AM > >Well the Hamfest is over and I got a few items but missed alot more, too >big >for one person to be get to the tables fast enough. Got some leads on Next >cubes and Sun items for little or no cost, will be talking with them more >next week. If they have enough I will post the information. About a two >hour >drive from me. On to the list >On Friday I found a Zenith luggable ZFA121-52 not tested yet $5 this baby >is >big with the flip up floppy drives on the top, Apple mouse IIe platinum >free, digital tape unit TLZ04-DA $5, 2 Mac Plus M0110A keybroads, a couple >of laser printers and several USR password modems for $10. Today at the >Hamfest I got digital GIGI model VK100-AA with manuals for free, HP model >433SX station $10 no power supply uses the external power brick like the >old >plotters will have get one from storage and test this unit, Commodore >CBM4040 dual drive .80, a Sharp Wizard 64KB for $20 needs new batteries >can't test it yet, a old 256k/64k RAMCHECK tester for $10 this unit is by >Innoventions of Houston need to write and see if the have doc's on this old >unit, and last a few cables and other odds & ends for $1 each. The day was >not as good as hoped as there were several really good bargins that got >away >by seconds. Well hope everyone else also had a good week and Keep >Computing. >John > >

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Two Items Needed

by Zeus334＠aol.com

Here in the Boston area, we have the streets paved with XT's; I pick them up >from the trash every once in a while. Often I leave them for lack of space. By the way, does anyone know about the System/74? Original Message: Hello everyone. I'm new here, but am very interested in collecting computers. I want two things: 1. Information etc. on the Androbot. (Remember, the little robot that premiered about the same time as the XT?) 2. Any extra classics that you have that you could sell to me. In my area, it took me 4 months just to track down 1 XT in relatively bad condition. Thanks,

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Two Items Needed

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hello everyone. I'm new here, but am very interested in collecting computers. I want two things: 1. Information etc. on the Androbot. (Remember, the little robot that premiered about the same time as the XT?) 2. Any extra classics that you have that you could sell to me. In my area, it took me 4 months just to track down 1 XT in relatively bad condition. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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ST506 drives available.

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

i lurk alt.folklore computers, and some guy on there claims that he's discovered a cache of NOS 5 meg st506 drives. he hinted at some volume purchase from interested parties. i'd be willing to buy a few as a group purchase, like the deal that fell through with the little handheld machines earlier this year. for more info, check out the thread in alt.folklore.computers. david

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Friday and Saturday Finds

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Do you want to sell these things? Because if so, I'm really interested. Where I live (In Bahrain, in the Mid-East), everyone has gotten rid of anything 5+ years old. (But not to many people have anything much newer :) !) I might have a lead on an Apple I, and other of the older models of Apples, but that's with a friend in the US, but if I do get some, I'll let everyone know. I REALLY want a NeXT cube, and a Sun, if you find enough. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze photze(a)batelco.com.bh ---------- From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Friday and Saturday Finds Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 4:12 AM Well the Hamfest is over and I got a few items but missed alot more, too big for one person to be get to the tables fast enough. Got some leads on Next cubes and Sun items for little or no cost, will be talking with them more next week. If they have enough I will post the information. About a two hour drive from me. On to the list On Friday I found a Zenith luggable ZFA121-52 not tested yet $5 this baby is big with the flip up floppy drives on the top, Apple mouse IIe platinum free, digital tape unit TLZ04-DA $5, 2 Mac Plus M0110A keybroads, a couple of laser printers and several USR password modems for $10. Today at the Hamfest I got digital GIGI model VK100-AA with manuals for free, HP model 433SX station $10 no power supply uses the external power brick like the old plotters will have get one from storage and test this unit, Commodore CBM4040 dual drive .80, a Sharp Wizard 64KB for $20 needs new batteries can't test it yet, a old 256k/64k RAMCHECK tester for $10 this unit is by Innoventions of Houston need to write and see if the have doc's on this old unit, and last a few cables and other odds & ends for $1 each. The day was not as good as hoped as there were several really good bargins that got away by seconds. Well hope everyone else also had a good week and Keep Computing. John

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Space problems in the UK and US

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

I have a similiar problem: Due to the large size of the XT style motherboards, my desk devoted to classic computers isn't big enough. I can fit the computer on, the monitor on the computer, and the keyboard on the floor. When you try to type, it's not fun. (Type a command. Stop. Before entering it, look up at monitor. Takes about twice as long.) PS- How do you post an origional message? Do you just send one to9 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu , or somewhere else? Tim D. Hotze photze(a)batelco.com.bh ---------- From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Space problems in the UK and US Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 4:09 AM Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote: > > Actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. My fiancee permits me a whole 8" by 10" > > room in the basement for my laboratory. Not much room to actually _move > > Eight by ten inches? You poor thing! But I expect you are exaggerating... One of the minor annoyances about collecting classic computers is the variety of decisions that were made in placement of punctuation on the keyboards. That was supposed to be feet, not inches, of course. And it would be worse, not better, if I were a touch typist. -- Ward Griffiths "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." [Denis Diderot, "Dithyrambe sur la fete de rois"]

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Friday and Saturday Finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well the Hamfest is over and I got a few items but missed alot more, too big for one person to be get to the tables fast enough. Got some leads on Next cubes and Sun items for little or no cost, will be talking with them more next week. If they have enough I will post the information. About a two hour drive from me. On to the list On Friday I found a Zenith luggable ZFA121-52 not tested yet $5 this baby is big with the flip up floppy drives on the top, Apple mouse IIe platinum free, digital tape unit TLZ04-DA $5, 2 Mac Plus M0110A keybroads, a couple of laser printers and several USR password modems for $10. Today at the Hamfest I got digital GIGI model VK100-AA with manuals for free, HP model 433SX station $10 no power supply uses the external power brick like the old plotters will have get one from storage and test this unit, Commodore CBM4040 dual drive .80, a Sharp Wizard 64KB for $20 needs new batteries can't test it yet, a old 256k/64k RAMCHECK tester for $10 this unit is by Innoventions of Houston need to write and see if the have doc's on this old unit, and last a few cables and other odds & ends for $1 each. The day was not as good as hoped as there were several really good bargins that got away by seconds. Well hope everyone else also had a good week and Keep Computing. John

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Space problems in the UK and US

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> > No. Typical house sizes here in the UK mean that all of us UK members have > > it. I imagine many of the US crowd have the same problem, too. In > > continental Europe, typical house sizes are larger, but most people live in > > apartments, so goodness knows what they do! > > Hey, all of the BBC shows I see on Public Broadcasting over here in the States > show these huge houses with broad sweeping staircases (which would be great > for stacking a whole lot of desktop-style systems). Am I being deceived by > the media? Do some Brits live in extended closets like we have here in the > U.S.? Yes, you've been deceived. I shall cite my own house as a fairly typical example of a British family home, circa 1928. I am lucky in that I live alone in it; such a house would normally hold a family of 4 or so. Upstairs, three bedrooms (12' x 12', 12' x 11', 6' x 6') and a bathroom (just large enough to hold bath, wash basin and one other item). Downstairs, lving room and dining room (match the two large bedrooms), kitchen (6' x 10' approx) and conservatory. Shelves full of computers etc. in every available space, even the living room, which I had originally intended to reserve for the piano and things. > Actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. My fiancee permits me a whole 8" by 10" > room in the basement for my laboratory. Not much room to actually _move Eight by ten inches? You poor thing! But I expect you are exaggerating... Philip.

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(no subject)

by Zeus334＠aol.com

Gauntlet for what machine? I think I may still have a copy for C-64

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No subject

by martin＠lister.force9.co.uk

Can you get hold of the Game The Gauntlet

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NorthStar info??

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: I just got my hands on a North Star system with a load of S-100 boards (mostly Vector Graphics boards; some of which labeled "BAD"). Does anyone have any info on the following: Vector Graphics: ZCB Z80 processor board, 12k PROM board, 16K SRAM board and 64k SRAM board, Micro-Disk floppy controller. I also need info on a Solid State Music video interface board (I think that I have a bad RAM chip on mine). TIA! Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin! Charter Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Networking

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BA23

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Does anyone have any info on the controllers inside here? It says Fixed Disk and Removable Disk. What kind of disks is it expecting?

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386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

One more thing: I wouldn't upgrade a machine, as that just makes it something that it wasn't meant to be, but if you wanted, look in Computer Shopper magazine by ZD, or look in http://www2.classifieds200.com and go to computers then motherboards, then chips. You shouldn't upgrade, if you asked me. See you, Tim D. Hotze photze(a)batelco.com.bh ---------- From: PG Manney <manney(a)nwohio.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: 386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 5:19 PM Wanted -- 386 to 486 upgrade chip -- 386-40 DX CPU 486 motherboard & chip (are those >10 yrs old, yet?) Thanks, manney(a)nwohio.com

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386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

The 386's are 12 years old, but most machines that have them are 9 years or less. The 486's will celebrae their 8th birthday soon, but most computers that had them (outside of servers and REAL pro computers) were made in '92-'95, then they were replaced by faster Pentiums. Hope that helps, Tim D. Hotze photze(a)batelco.com.bh ---------- From: PG Manney <manney(a)nwohio.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: 386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 5:19 PM Wanted -- 386 to 486 upgrade chip -- 386-40 DX CPU 486 motherboard & chip (are those >10 yrs old, yet?) Thanks, manney(a)nwohio.com

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386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted

by manney＠nwohio.com

Wanted -- 386 to 486 upgrade chip -- 386-40 DX CPU 486 motherboard & chip (are those >10 yrs old, yet?) Thanks, manney(a)nwohio.com

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Update on finds for those that asked and a big rescue coming

by lwalker＠mail.interlog.com

> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 -0500 > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Update on finds for those that asked and a big rescue coming > Thanks to those who e-mailed me to keep the list going, I too like to see > what others are finding and the price items are going for. This also to > helps hear about computers and other items that I may have never seen or > hear of. But first about the rescue - I have located about one half of a > 20,000 sq ft warehouse FULL of computers, monitors, printers, manuals, sales > promo items, old software, system disk. I'm talking C64 to SUN to maybe > HP3000 types and a couple of stripped down mainframes (not IBM's). I spent > the last two Saturdays trying to work out a deal and hope to know this week > or next if can start unloading these items for them. I will send out an > e-mail to all as soon as I get the word. I, for one, love your listings. Keep on, keep on, keep on. ciao larry lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com

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Where do you go to find stuff?

by Eros＠mail.dec.com

I suspect this question would be a good addition to an FAQ... Where do you tend to go to find classic computer equipment? Around here (Delaware) I hit garage sales (pretty slim pickin's), swap meets, Salvation Army and Goodwill. A local chemical company has a surplus disposition center that parcels out a limited number of PC and Mac systems. In addition, there's a twice-weekly Goodwill that has occasionally yielded something useful. Any other suggestions? -- Tony

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DEC LK201 keyboard

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Someone gave me a box of 10 or so DEC LK201 keyboards. A couple of them work and the rest do not. Several seem to have the same problem in that the 4 status LED's all light up, but the keyboard does not respond. Has anyone encountered this problem and repaired the keyboard? Does anyone have a schematic for this keyboard that they could copy and send to me? Having several DEC machines, it would be nice to have a few spare keyboards. Thanks, Mike Thompson

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Yes! Frontpanel machines!

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

2 11/34s, for $20. Good! More when I go see them tomorrow

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relative age

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 03:41 PM 10/23/97 -0600, you wrote: >You know, I think my generation was the last to learn about using >the slide rule in highschool (I graduated in 1979). In 1975, when I >was a freshman, all students in my school were requied to learn I started HS in '79 and I was the only person I knew that knew what one was (other than *some* of the teachers.) Still got mine. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Nice Week

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 11:47 PM 10/22/97 -0700, you wrote: >lasertag target for $0.90! BTW, anyone remember when lasertag was popular? >I have a set of two guns and two (now three) targets and was thinking about >putting them on ebay. Yep... There's a new version on the market (saw 'em at both Toys-R-Us and Price Club.) Used to (still do?) have a rifle and a couple of handguns, plus a target or two. Had a lot of fun with them! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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IBM System 36

by Deborah909＠aol.com

Dear Colleagues, I am the information systems coordinator of a large social service agency in Boston that owns a System 36 that we no longer use. In addition to the system itself, we have a printer, software, manuals, and several workstations. Can you give us some assistance in donating or recycling our equipment? Many thanks! Best regards from Deborah Elizabeth Finn Information Systems Family Service of Greater Boston 34 1/2 Beacon Street Boston, MA 02108 617-523-6400, ext. 5506 (voice) 617-523-3034 (fax) fsgb(a)fsgb.org (internet) deborah909(a)aol.com (internet)

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System/34 diskettes as RX02 diskettes

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Holepunching them doesn't work. I tried. Format resets the drive about 8 times and says Device Error. Attempting to boot from one says Controller Failure. I know the device works, I use it for the 3 RX02s I do have. Oh well. BTW, anyone know where I can get an RL02 pack cheap?

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relative age

by manney＠nwohio.com

> You folks are all young sprouts... when I was in H.S. (1938) our AV >equipment was a wind up phonograph (disks, not cylinders,) and a lantern >slide projector. Once someone from Bell Telephone brought in a movie >projector and showed films! Calculations? they were done with a pencil on >"foolscap". And no, I didn't have Socrates for a teacher. I went through HS on a slide rule. Someone brought in an electromechanical calculator to my math class, and I fell in love with it. <sigh> ps Where did "Foolscap" get its name? E-mail me... (extremely off-topic) manney(a)nwohio.com

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DEQNA

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Anyone got the pinout of the AUI connector on this? Will it work with any AUI?

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Osborne I Floppies

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

Of the Seimens FDD 100-5 drives on my Osborne I, drive A is worn and tempermental. I am trying to switch A and B. There are no obvious jumpers, and cable connections are identical to both drives. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks Charlie Fox

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TRS-80 Model II

by kevan＠heydon.org

Just got this, if anybody is interested then follow up directly to him. ------- Forwarded Message From: leelouden(a)webtv.net (Lee Louden) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:44:01 -0700 To: collector(a)heydon.org Subject: TRS-80 Model II I have, and am currently using the above mentioned. It is a complete system with original desk and matching printer stand. The original system without extra software sold for 10k. I am the original owner and have taken good care of it . This is the 8" floppy drive system with a triple expansion bay, modem and daisey wheel printer. Any interest? ------- End of Forwarded Message -- Kevan Old Computer Collector: http://staff.motiv.co.uk/~kevan/

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A few deals found

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well I been at again and found some good ones, list to follow. We've got a big Hamfest and computer sale this weekend in St. Paul (MN) and I hope to find a few things there got my ticket already. Well on to the list: 1. SOROC IQ120 for $5, this is the first monitor I purchased back 1978 for my Nortstar that I got for $3200 wow now a get them for 1 to 5 dollars. 2. Amstrad pc-20 with all the manuals but no monitor for free. 3. CPT SRS45 tower with monitor but no KB $5.00 4. IBM 3864-2 type II for free 5. Mac SE with 1 mbyte ram, 800k FD and 20sc HD for $5 6. Data General One with power brick and it works $5 7. Zenith ZF-158-42 for $5 8. Laser Pal 386sx with KB, no monitor, manuals and software disk $5 9. IBM type 3476 monitor for $5 10. two boxes full of manuals and old software for free 11. Sun model 4/20FM-8 monitor for $5 12. Sun 3/110c-B cpu chip taken out but got the case and some boards for $5 13. Apple MAC II no KB or monitor for $5 14. 2 Sum mice and two KB a type 5c and a type with cables for free 15. MT1000 controller that works for free 16. Sun 3/260HM-8 case only all the boards were gone for $5 17. SPARCstation IPC with HD taken and memory all gone and unit taken apart so the guy gave it to me for free. That's the short list the first three days of this week and I have picked up over 35 items but the wife is starting to ask questions. I've had to rent another storage unit to hold my collection. I'm working with two different groups right now trying to get a building to house a museum and hope to get some State and federal help with the funds. Keep computing !!

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Another good day

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I went to 3 thrift stores from Hopkins to Bloomington to St. Paul and found a few items. Sun 3/160S-4 seems to be all there will try to fire it up this weekend, another Sun 4/20FM-8 monitor, Apple language cards, tape and HD rack for Sun 160, Apple IIc Plus with the 3.5 FD and built-in power supply will test this weekend this is my second one of these I got the first in St. Louis MO this past summer at a flea market, I got some other items but have not written them down yet it was too cold at the storage unit so I just unloaded the car and left. The highest price item was $10, the other were either $5 or free. Good hunting to all

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Wanted:387 SX

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Roger Merchberger wrote: > 1) I have a couple co-processors -- make me an offer. Yes please! I need a 387SX in a 68 pin plcc to go in the bottom of a Compaq LTE Lite 20. $15? > 2) I saw several emulators, but the only one I found that actually worked > well, the file was called "FRANKE87" and was German in origin. It actually > fooled AutoCad 10 into believing there was a co-processor chip on my 386SX > and actually did speed up FP instructions (measured with CheckIt). Emulator doesn't interest me - I'm not likely to run much serious stuff on my PC anyway... > I may have a copy of it somewhere, but that's no guarantee, as my 386 has > been sold for a coupla years now, and my P150+ doesn't need it. ;-) You've got a WHAT? Go and wash your mouth out with soap and water and don't ever mention the word P*****m on this list again! ;-) (At least, not until it's ten years old) Seriously, though, I found when looking around last year (when I got the Compaq laptops) that most of the electronics catalogues _didn't_ contain the 80387 any more. I must search the net... Philip.

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Where do you go to find stuff?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I hit some of the same places except garage sales. Just look out for private thrift and talk with the manager must are willing to work with if you take it by the load and not try to pick out just the ones you want. I can get real low prices by working it that way, must times they don't have that much. I talk to people at the goodwills that I meet there and give them one of my cards my wife made. These cards id me as a Computer Collector and gives my home phone and e-mail address. These cards have gotten me alot of free items. Well good luck and Keep Computing !! At 10:54 AM 10/23/97 -0400, you wrote: >I suspect this question would be a good addition to an FAQ... > >Where do you tend to go to find classic computer equipment? Around here (Delaware) I hit garage sales (pretty slim pickin's), swap meets, Salvation Army and Goodwill. A local chemical company has a surplus disposition center that parcels out a limited number of PC and Mac systems. In addition, there's a twice-weekly Goodwill that has occasionally yielded something useful. > >Any other suggestions? > >-- Tony > >

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A few deals found

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

You,re right just s slip of the tongue, I used my first one with a northstar as it had no KB or video with it. At 07:08 PM 10/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >> 1. SOROC IQ120 for $5, this is the first monitor I purchased back 1978 for >> my Nortstar that I got for $3200 wow now a get them for 1 to 5 dollars. > >I may be remembering things wrong, but I thought a IQ120 was a terminal, >not a monitor. > >Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca) > >

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RX02 disks and S/34 disks.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Is there a way to get a S/34 8" disk to work like an RX02 disk? I need a few more RX02s.

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Head Start Explorer

by manney＠nwohio.com

Is anyone interested in a Head Start Explorer (seems to be an XT with built-in CGA). Has a dead floppy, no hard drive. Boots up fine on ROM. manney(a)nwohio.com

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Info on a Scantron unit?

by manney＠nwohio.com

>Wow! A high schooler who's into old computers? Unless there is a >pre-pubescent teenager on this list, I think Daniel has the record as the >youngest collector of old computers. One of my customers is (I think) a Freshman; he collects old stuff. That would make him 14 or 15. Another, Steve O., just joined the group (you listening, Steve?). He's young, but I don't know how young. Not all of us are ancient.

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Kaypro 2 vs. Kaypro II

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

I just picked up a Kaypro 2 (with several missing keys) at one of the local Salvation Army stores. It won't recognize my Kaypro II disks, and it takes longer to come up with the "I cannot read your diskette" message than the Kaypro II does (when I shove MS-DOS disks in them). Is the Kaypro 2 broken, or does it use a different disk format from the Kaypro II? I notice that the startup message is different, so they must have different ROM revisions. What are the differences (other than the obvious cosmetic differences) between these two models? Thanks. Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca

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Mac Portable

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 02:03 AM 10/22/97 -0500, I wrote: >Thanks for the info! Do you know if it's positive on the inside or outside? >(either + -O)- - or - -O)- + ?) Oh fiddle. I meant to send that directly to the person I was replying to, but I goofed. Sorry. But thanks anyway to all who responded. Btw, I think that the page I quoted went a little overboard. I don't think you *have* to replace the 9volt battery with an adapter, but you can. (Duh.) Still, I saw the switch that requires removing the L-A battery cover (and presumably, you would want to remove the battery as well to run off AC?) I'll report back after trying it out. (I picked up a variable power adapter from RatShack today 'cause I've got quite a few machines missing adapters.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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FWD: Early user interface design

by bede0005＠garnet.tc.umn.edu

Hey Folks:: I found this on CSA2 newsgroup. Thought some of you in the bay area might be interested. I would LOVE to go but it's a long way from Minnesota. If anyone does attend, I would like to hear about how it was rob ======================================================================== + please forward and post as appropriate within the Bay area + Bay Area Computer History Perspectives and The Computer Museum History Center present "Early User Interface Design at Apple" Larry Tesler and Chris Espinosa Stagecast Software Apple Computer 5:30 PM, Tuesday, Oct. 28 Computer Museum History Center Building 126 Moffett Field Mt. View (directions at end) Note: if you plan to attend, please reply to Zoe Allison at 415/604-2575, or send email with your name to allison(a)tcm.org. Please indicate if you aren't a US citizen, thanks. When Larry Tesler came to Apple in 1980 from Xerox Palo Alto Research Center, he introduced user interface testing to the Lisa project. Only recently did Larry learn that Chris Espinosa had conducted Apple II user interface testing a couple of years earlier. This program will review the story of early user interface design at Apple, up to 1984, for the Apple II, the Lisa, and the Mac. Larry and Chris will be presenting original internal Apple memos and drawings from the period which have not been shown previously in public. A historic videotape will also be shown of actual Lisa user interface testing, among the earliest such tests at Apple. This program is free and open to the public. In 1980 Larry Tesler managed applications software and user interface design for the Lisa division, and later became VP and Chief Scientist at Apple. He is now president of Stagecast, a K-12 software startup. Chris Espinosa started working at Apple at the age of 14, bicycling over after school to do the weekly Apple II demos. He later worked on the original Mac design team, and recently has managed the Media Tools group at Apple. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Next program: November 12: The influence of Doug Engelbart's work over the last 30 years. These lectures are sponsored by The Computer Museum History Center and Sun Microsystems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Directions: from highway 101 in Mt. View, take the Moffett Field exit (ignore any signs or exits for Moffett Blvd.). You will come immediately up to the Moffett Field main gate. Park to the right side of the gate, in the visitor's parking area, and go into the Visitor Office building to get a badge and further directions. Remember to call 415/604-2575, or email allison(a)tcm.org, if you plan to attend. -- Dag Spicer Manager of Historical Collections The Computer Museum History Center Moffett Federal Airfield Mountain View, CA 94035 Offices: Building T-12A Exhibit Area: Building 126 Tel: +1 650 604 2578 Fax: +1 650 604 2594 E-m: spicer(a)tcm.org WWW: http://www.tcm.org <spicer(a)tcm.org> PGP: 15E31235 (E6ECDF74 349D1667 260759AD 7D04C178)

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SCORE!

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

I will have soon: A PDP-11/84. Working. It has an RL02, but no pack. And more! I do have now: A DEQNA network card. Now I just gotta get Fuzzball to build... I may have my 11/23+ up soon!

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Relative age

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

around 1984-1985, we had all apples in hi skool mostly //e's and epson fx80 printers but there were a few ][+ models in an adjoining room. i remember going to a mall once and seeing an apple ///, but was unfamiliar with it. in 1986 at a community college, they had more //e models, trs80 model 3 machines, i think, and ibm XTs with cga monitors. i never used anything else until around 1988 when i discovered a friend with an atari 800xl with the 1050 disk drive and i used that to type in programs from the magazine called compute, of which i still have the issues. david

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Relative Age

by jrbrady＠mindspring.com

Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote: >HP brought the 2000A timeshared BASIC system out in...1967? I know >there were some (later models, 2000F and 2000 Access) still in service >at various Washington DC suburban area high schools into the early >1980s at least, maybe into the mid-1980s. Prince Georges County >(Maryland) and Fairfax County (Virginia) both had them, maybe others >too. In Orange County, California, the local community college ran an HP2000/Access system utilized by the local high schools. Each school had Digital LA36 and Lear-Siegler ADM-3A terminals connected at a blazing 300 baud. It still running at the time of my graduation in 1983. I have fond memories of the HP system, having written many pro- grams on it (including one that triggered an "OUT OF MEMORY" error... talk about the need for optimized code!) If memory serves, the beast was decommissioned several years later. Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)mindspring.com Seattle, WA

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relative age

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Wow! A high schooler who's into old computers? Unless there is a <pre-pubescent teenager on this list, I think Daniel has the record as the <youngest collector of old computers. Frightening. ;-) here are some numbers If you are in highschool now: -0 PCs are known as current if highschool was x years ago: 1990 PCs and macs 1985 Apples, macs, Rainbows, PRO350s maybe some PCs 1980 s100, apple][, swtp, LSI11, micronova Microprocessor chips 1977 PDP-11, vax, nova Some LSI and bit slice 1971 PDP-8, PDP-10 TTL mostly, some utilogic and transistors FYI the main computers in the shuttle are this era technology. 1965 PDP-5 Transistors. 1960 First generation transistors, vacuum tubes 1952 first commercial machines, tubes 1947 prototypes, tubes and relays If you were like me and did electronics as a kid following on to a career then everything made from '64-65ish on was current at one time or another to me. Then again I went to the NY worlds fair 1964/5! Allison

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