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NeXT Cube

by joel＠usfca.edu

If anyone knows where I can buy a NeXT cube at a decent price, please let me know. Joel

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Firsts

by manney＠nwohio.nwohio.com

Just acquired a Compaq luggable (don't know the model, but it's an XT) that's pretty hefty. I forgot how much I love mono screens, though. The case reminds me of an airline carry-on cat container...stands on end, with the handle on top. manney

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Franklin 1000

by manney＠nwohio.nwohio.com

Anyone interested in a Franklin 1000? What's a good price? manney(a)nwohio.com ---------- > From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > To: Manney > Subject: 12 year old scanner needs software > Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:20 PM > > I'm looking for some software for the original HP ScanJet. Since the > scanner is > 12 years old, I thought someone in this group might be able to help. > I need one of the following: > > Caere Omnipage 2.1 > ZSoft Photofinish > and I hate to even type this, but Windows 2.0... > or any other scanning software that supports the 9190A ScanJet > > Thanks, > Don > >

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Round-up of classic HP stuff

by dastar＠wco.com

Frank McConnell and I (and another associate) made a nice haul of great HP mini's yesterday. The tally: (2) 21MX E computers (one having 1MW of memory, the other with 256MW) (1) HP1000A (1) HP1000 model 600A (hard drive, 3.5" floppy) (1) Tape Reader Reroller (the 8th of only a few ever made) (2) 2647F terminals (these are actually computers running Basic with built-in tape and external 5.25" disk drives but are used as terminals to the 21MX) (2) Mag-tape drives (Frank will provide the specs and model #s) (1) Big-assed line printer and stand (2) HP racks (Frank, what did I mess up on?) Plus some software, a bunch of little spare parts, cables, connectors, and a FULL set of manuals, including service manuals and engineering manuals with schematics and all that for everything. The guy was more interested in getting rid of it and having it go to a good home than getting money for it. We paid him $200. Of course Frank now has an invaluable contact for discussing his HP passion (the guy we bought the stuff from is a 26 year HP veteran). I think when it was all done Frank basically had an accident in his pants as he could not contain his excitement over his good fortune. On an unrelated haul, I picked up a bunch of nice IBM manuals. I got the service manuals for the IBM PC and IBM PCjr. I also got the Options and Adaptors manual which describes, of all things, the various options and adaptors available for the PC, including the expansion chassis which I found last year in a thrift shop. Also got an original DOS 1.10 manual and software, a manual for Windows 1.03 (whee!) and a ton of other neat miscellany. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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PDP-11/73 -- VT220

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

I picked up a VT220 yesterday, as I was getting tired of using another computer for a terminal. The question is how do I connect it? I'm assuming the DB25 on the back of the VT220 is the comm line (especially if I read the back correctly), I gather the DB9 is for a printer (from what I found in my web searches last night). I took a cable and ran it from the Comm port on the /73 to the Comm port on the VT220, and get nothing. I then added a Null-Modem adapter and got gibberish. Does this need some kind of special cable to work? I don't see any switch settings on the back of terminal or anything. Oh, and the VT220 say's it's OK when I power it on. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | | For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |

28 years, 3 months

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Firsts

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<From: Riccardo <chemif(a)mbox.queen.it> <Hmm, sorry but I thought that 77 k attachment file would not make any <problem (it took 45 sec. to send it). Generally big is over 49999bytes! Most mailers that is the threshold. While some PC mailers will tolerate anything many do not and a lot of unix based mailers don't like it either. <You could use the "skip big messages" option that most mail program have <Anyway I will refrain from sending attachements to this list in future. not all mailers have that! Allison

28 years, 3 months

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Software needed for Lisa

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, do a search on the web and you can find all the sw you need. you can download the disk image. dave

28 years, 3 months

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DEC Stuff

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> The L2007 is a memory board for the Vaxstation 3510-3520-3540 series. > It's a "M-bus" board. From the fact that you say it has 144 1 Meg chips, > I will hazard a guess that you have the L2007-B variation, which is > 16 Mbytes with ECC. (There's also a L2007-A which is only 8 Mbytes). But there is no VAXstation 3510. The processors came two on a board. > P.S. I'm waiting for someone to say "But there is no Vaxstation 3540...", > then I have a story to tell! I'd rather hear the one about the 3510. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Anybody know wha this is? DEC

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one > is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it > appears to have a SCSI interface. a 300-something meg SCSI drive > The second one appears to have a ST-506 > interface and is a Maxtor drive and is marked "RD54-A" and "30-26245-01" > and "RQDX 3". a 150 meg MFM drive. > I also picked up a couple of keyboards that I think might be for a DEC. > The first one is a large keyboard marked "TS 803". This is from a Televideo 803. It's a CP/M machine. > The second keyboard is from digital and is a model LK 201. Doe > anyone know which machine it's for? Just about anything from Rainbows, DECmates, and Pros up to the DEC 3000 series Alphas (newer Alphas use PC-style keyboards). Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Tandy M100

by hansp＠columbia.digiweb.com

Yesterday I picked up a Tandy M100, complete with the cutest battery powered 3.5" disk drive connecting the the RS232 port of the M100, video/disk expansion box and video screen. included in the package was MS Multiplan on ROM and several other cassette programs. Also lots of user documentation. That's the good news, on the down side, couldn't get the price down below $100 the (marked price was almost $150!) :-( - it was in a commercial second-hand store and they have to make a living too. Anyways, it all seems to operate properly, but I am missing the 5-1/4" system disk for the video/disk expansion box. Anyone know of how I can get a copy Regarding the disk drive, ae the specs on how to drive it availabel anywhere. I would serve very nicely for transferring information between disparate systems. -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

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Olivetti M21 info wanted

by hansp＠columbia.digiweb.com

I have recovered an Olivetti M21. Its an 8086 based system with floppy disk and 20 Mb hard disk in a case reminiscent of the original Compaq. Anyone have technical info on this beastie? I noticed an extra DA-9 (?) connector on the mother board which is not available when the covers are in place - what's that for?. Also the definition of the two DIP switch blocks on the mother-board which do not seem to follow the IBM spec. And thirdly how to get into setup, or a copy of the setup disk. I have tentativly decided to dedicate this system to an attempt to port the Z80 UN*X kernel that Allison mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Got it all fired up with DOS 3.1 and Turbo C 1.5 at the moment, I will be adding a vintage copy of BRIEF and away I go..... As an aside, in looking through my store of 5-1/4" disks, I see I have IBM versions of DOS 1.0, 1.10, 2.00, 3.10, and 3.30, gosh they go back a ways. Also found some MS disks with old versions of Windows and a GWBasic adaptation kit. Regards, -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

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Software needed for Lisa

by wirehead＠retrocomputing.com

I need to get boot and other software for an Apple Lisa with an external profile hard disk and a built-in 3.5 inch drive. Can anyone help me out? Thanks... Anthony Clifton - Wirehead

28 years, 3 months

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DEC Stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Bruce, Thanks for the info. Here's more. At 01:10 AM 1/17/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, Joe. Let's see if I can help you ID your goodies... > >>They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one >>is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it >>appears to have a SCSI interface. > > Correct. This is a 330 MB drive. The RZ56 was a 700 or so, and the RZ57 >was a 1 gigger. They're all SCSI, generally found on the VAXStation or >DECStation line of systems. If you absolutely have to, they should be >usable on PCs with a low-level format. Doesn't sound very useful on a PC. I have two of each drive. If anyone has need for them for an old DEC, let me know. You can swap me something for them. Allison gets first shot since SHE has allready mentioned that SHE can use them. One of the Rd-54s has a paper tag that says "MVE 11A VMS 5.4.2 ACSIM". Does that sound useful to anyone? Of course, it may not still be one thre, but it probably is. > >>The second one appears to have a ST-506 interface and is a Maxtor drive >and is marked >"RD54-A" and "30-26245-01" and "RQDX 3". > > This is a 170 meg MFM drive, intended for use in the MicroPDP or MicroVAX >lines, or any other DEC system using an RQDX3 controller. It is the same as >a Maxtor XT2190. > > The LK201 is the standard DEC keyboard for just about everything from >their VT220 terminals to the MicroVAX, VAXStation, and DECStation line. > > The numbers you're reading off for the boards don't make any sense. DEC >numbers are typically a single letter, usually M, followed by four digits. >Look on the ejector handles and the card bracket. If the board was not made >by DEC, it may not have this marking. I can't find any number that starts with M. One card is marked " L P W R digital GS-2 34888-4909" across the top edge. The second card is marked " L P W R digital GS-2 03789-6028" across the top edge. But both cards look the same. The other number is on a paper label. They have a LOT of ICs on them marked "TC511000AJ-10". And there is a VERY large IC near the center of the board. There is also a red and yellow LED on the top edge. Joe > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) >(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) >http://www.wizards.net/technoid >"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own >human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..." >

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Firsts

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

-----Original Message----- From: John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Firsts >At 09:32 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote: > >>>The TRS-80 Model 100 and it's amigos the Nec 8201 and Olivetti ??? had > >>Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradonhat's probably >>why they are called laptops and not portables. > >Shoot, it's not even a laptop. I've seen Pentium notebooks bulkier than a >M100. :) > > >-John Higginbotham- >-limbo.netpath.net- The firsts laptops used to have handle (I'm talking XT's and 286s) but I guess these were removed to make the machine smaller and lighter. By the way they are not laptops either; I always have to find a table to put them on so I can use them. If I put them on my lap I'm always afraid to drop them ;-) I'll try not to insert the signature in the middle of the message this time:) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

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Got an Apple IIgs

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

>You still don't have it working? What problems are you having? If you want, >I'll email you a complete working version. The file should be under .5 mb. Sounds good. The instructions are a little vague, and when I can't get anything to recognise anything else. Just e-mail it to photze(a)batelco.com.bh ; to aviod anyone else recieving .5MB that they don't need/want. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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those wacky IBM heads

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Heh, i bought a surplus monitor from work after they upgraded to g50 monitors and pc330 systems. i got an 8515 with the same sticker on it! i was thinking about removing it, but i think i might keep it now! i think it was really a documented effort to make sure people werent doing non work environment things on their workstations in accordance with business conduct guidelines. (no games, no www.xxx.com, etc) In a message dated 98-01-17 01:57:20 EST, you write: << I saw this label on an IBM monitor in a thrift shop the other day and I thought some of you guys might get a kick out of it. It read: USE OF THIS DEVICE IS RESTRICTED TO IBM MANAGEMENT APPROVED PURPOSES ONLY and they even had a policy number for this mandate: Z229-0444-00 Beauracracy at it's finest. >>

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Somone check my logic here... (Tim? Care to prove me wrong again?)

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Okay, here I go. I have a PDP-11/83. It boots a very limited version of RSX-11M. (Sysgen is gone, no multi users, etc.) That's boring. I also have a RSTS/E distrib tape. 9-track tape. I don't have a Q-bus magtape controller. But, I do have an MT: emulating controller and drive attached to the PDP-11/34A. It works. I have read and written to the tape. Reading is fine, writing is iffy due to a braindamaged bootdisk (Not the new RT-11 set -an old one with MT.SYS on it) that Caterpillar made. The important part comes here. I have a thing called a DW-11B (I think). Anyway, it's a Unibus to Q-bus converter. One end goes in the Unibus box, and the other goes in the Q-bus box. Putting the Q-bus end in the 83, and the Unibus end in the 34, I'd be able to talk to the MT: controller, right? (I'd have to remove the 34A CPU, so it doesn't screw with the bus, right?) Does this sound OK, or am I missing something? -------

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Got an Apple IIgs

by kroma＠worldnet.att.net

>>>2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working? >> >>Sounds obscene. You probably need the ROMs for the IIgs. No, I don't know >>where or how you can get them. >Got 'em. But, I still can't get it working. I'll try it on my 200 MHz "beast". (Well, compared to my former 486/66 28MB RAM 2.1GB HDD, it's REALLY NICE.) > BTW, Zane, sorry for not replying to that Linux e-mail, I've been really busy. I'll respond soon. > Tim D. Hotze You still don't have it working? What problems are you having? If you want, I'll email you a complete working version. The file should be under .5 mb. -- Kirk

28 years, 3 months

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DECMates

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

A while ago, I mentioned that I had a DECMate III, the one without the hard drive. It has two DECWrite manuals, a disk set for the same, and miscellaneous incompatible junk (like Windows 1.0 for the Rainbow) Could anyone tell me what OS I can use on this, where I can get it, and how to install it. The DEC is not at my house, and any mistake will last me at least a week until I can go back to it. Also, a short essay on the OS wouldn't hurt. A supplementary question: how do I get PPP on Minix? Yet another question: what are the power requirements of an IBM System/34? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 3 months

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Uncles/PC-C64c file transfers

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

>Okay, so I have a C-64c, 1541 floppy, and monitor. Now how exactly would I >go about downloading programs from the internet on my PC machine and >porting them over to the Commodore? Will I need a special serial cable? I >have the 64 boxed up at the moment so can't really tell what I need. Let's assume you do not have an IBM clone or access to one... First you would download the file from the FTP site. Second while on the (I assume more powerful) internet connecting machine you uncompress the file if it is compressed (usually ZIPped I've seen). Third, Transfer it to the 64. Now if it is a D64 file you will need to save it to a drive that has a larger capacity then a 1541, such as a 1571, 1581, 256k+ REU w/ramdisk running or a CMD Hard Drive. The easiest transfer would be via modem to modem or a simple null-modem cable (plans are on the net), there are other options including making your IBM, Amiga or whatever act as a slave drive for your 64 and just doing a file copy... (special cable like x1541 needed) Finaly (if nesessary) convert the file, it it is .D64 there are a few d64 to 1541 utilities out there for both the 64 and 128. T64 is a different story, it will need to go to tape, and even though I know it can be done I am unsure whether or not a utility exists yet for the 64. Now you should be able to load and run the program (note some of the programs may have problems due to being either written for NTSC or PAL video modes and your computer being the other... :/ Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Got an Apple IIgs

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

-----Original Message----- From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Got an Apple IIgs >>Well, I've got a comment and a question. >>1. Yes, the apple software is avaible for download, but I forget where. You >>need to copy it in a special way for it to work on disks. You might be able >>to have a serial link, etc. do it, unless you've got a Mac, which makses it >>SO easy. > >It sounds like no one can remember where it can be found, I know I can't >:^( I've got the OS here, downloaded on my computer, so whoever wants it, just ask, and I'll e-mail it as an attachment, or, I could like post it on my web site, or something. There is a Macintosh utility that is required to write the disks, >called "Disk Copy". Very handy util if you have a Mac. I ran into one >problem when I created my set of disks, I wasn't able to write them using >my PowerMac 8500/180. I ended up creating them using either my SE/30 or >Powerbook 520c, I don't remember which. Basically any cheap 68k Mac with a >1.44Mb floppy can do this. > >>2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working? > >Sounds obscene. You probably need the ROMs for the IIgs. No, I don't know >where or how you can get them. Got 'em. But, I still can't get it working. I'll try it on my 200 MHz "beast". (Well, compared to my former 486/66 28MB RAM 2.1GB HDD, it's REALLY NICE.) BTW, Zane, sorry for not replying to that Linux e-mail, I've been really busy. I'll respond soon. Tim D. Hotze

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Amstrads in the US

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Thank but since it is an internal PSU I would rather keep it in it's original state. I'll give the step up Xformer a try. >Some PSUs can be easily modified to work off 110V anyway. I can give >typical modifications if you're interested. > >> If so in what conditions? > >[...] > >> Francois Auradon. > >-tony >

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Got an Apple IIgs

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Well, I've got a comment and a question. 1. Yes, the apple software is avaible for download, but I forget where. You need to copy it in a special way for it to work on disks. You might be able to have a serial link, etc. do it, unless you've got a Mac, which makses it SO easy. 2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working? Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Got an Apple IIgs >you can download the gs software from apple's web site for free - John >At 10:50 PM 1/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model >>with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs, >>floppy drives, or mouse. >> >> Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I can >>buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks >>right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2". >> >> I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a copy of >>GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM? >> >> Thanks! >> >>Rich Cini/WUGNET >> <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use) >> ClubWin! Charter Member (6) >> MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking >>============================================ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Amstrads in the US

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Well now you've done it! I actually am confused. What do you mean by "must be derated"? Can I use a big step up Xformer to run a monitor and computer without risking to blow both up? If so in what conditions? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk <Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 10:44 AM Subject: Re[4]: Amstrads in the US >> OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor? is >> the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem? >> >>>When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I >>>found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired >>>these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's >>>your uncle. > >As Tony pointed out, 50/60 Hz shouldn't be a problem. > >HOWEVER, it should be pointed out that the transformer must be capable >of carrying the power. I used a 10VA transformer to power the one or >two devices that had 240V only. To run monitors and things, you'd need >100VA or so. Transformers do exist for just this sort of purpose, upto >about 2kVA, but V. heavy! > >(Rule of thumb for switchmode power supplies - Look at ower consumption >and assume 1VA = 0.6W) > >Finally, a tranformer designed for 60Hz must be derated to a lower >VOLTAGE when used at 50Hz. > >I hope that hasn't got you all too confused. > >Philip. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

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Got an Apple IIgs

by pb14＠leicester.ac.uk

On 16 Jan 98 at 22:50, Richard A. Cini wrote: > I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model > with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs, > floppy drives, or mouse. > > Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I can > buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks > right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2". The ADB mouse is the same as the ones used on all Macs since the SE and Mac II so you should have no problems finding one. A stock IIGS will work with 3.5" 800K drives or 5.25" 140K drives (the Unidisk 5.25). You can use older Disk II drives using a cable adapter but it may not be worth the effort. Not all external 3.5" drives from Apple work with the IIGS and are Mac only; the one to look for has an eject button, platinum ribbed case and a covered D19 socket for daisy-chaining a second floppy drive. For more information, consult the FAQs which are posted on the comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup (beware of flame wars!) or on the web at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/index.html. > I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a copy of > GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM? Version 6.0.1 of GS/OS is posted on Apple's FTP site. This version will not do anything useful in 1Mb so look around for a memory expansion card. A couple of companies now supply bare boards that will take cheap 30 pin 1Mb SIMMs. Happy Apple II Computing, Phil ************************************************************** Phil Beesley -- Computer Officer -- Distributed Systems Suppport University of Leicester Tel (0)116 252-2231 E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk

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Anybody want an Osborne?

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Nope I have no idea of the type of drives that are installed in there. If you salvage it I would be interested in some parts (one of the keyboard latches on mine is broken and I would like to replace it) Let me know. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Anybody want an Osborne? >Francois, > > Well I got the Osborne. It turns out that the dealer had to move and had >to get rid of a bunch of stuff so he was a lot more reasonable on his >prices. I haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I probably won't >for a few days. BTW Do you know what kind on drives are in there? They >look like they might be some of the old Shugart SA 400s. If so I can >probably use them to restore my old Altair. It has a disk controller for >the SA 400s but the drives are long gone. > > Joe >

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What I did this weekend

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

-----Original Message----- From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 9:49 PM Subject: Re: What I did this weekend >At 01:17 PM 1/15/98, you wrote: >> >> >>At 11:48 AM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote: >>>Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an >>>engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too long. > >Things "that go without saying" are usually what screw up the system. >Things like that are best said up front. Better to have someone say "well, >duh" then to have someone get stiffed. > I meant that it goes without saying in the scope of this discussion. Otherwise yes we would need well planned rules. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

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those wacky IBM heads

by dastar＠wco.com

I saw this label on an IBM monitor in a thrift shop the other day and I thought some of you guys might get a kick out of it. It read: USE OF THIS DEVICE IS RESTRICTED TO IBM MANAGEMENT APPROVED PURPOSES ONLY and they even had a policy number for this mandate: Z229-0444-00 Beauracracy at it's finest. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Anybody know wha this is? DEC

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I picked more stuff today and found some DEC hard drives in the pile. Can anyone tell me what size they are and what machines they're for? I *think* they may be out of a Vax, but that's a guess. They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it appears to have a SCSI interface. The second one appears to have a ST-506 interface and is a Maxtor drive and is marked "RD54-A" and "30-26245-01" and "RQDX 3". I also picked up a couple of keyboards that I think might be for a DEC. The first one is a large keyboard marked "TS 803". It has 16 Pf keys along the top and a separate numeric keypad. It's gray on top and white on the bottom. The second keyboard is from digital and is a model LK 201. Doe anyone know which machine it's for? Joe

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Anybody want an Osborne?

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

If you can get just the video loopback connector I'll be interested, one of mine is missing it and I would like to replace it with an original. thanks for the post. > I found a non-working Osborne computer at a scrap dealers. I tried to >test it but no lights came on or drives moved so I suspect a power supply >problem. It's probably fixable without too much trouble. There is a >similar one for sale on Auction Web. You can see pictures of it there >"http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4212123". The >dealer wants $20 plus shipping. Anyone interested in it? > > Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Auradon. Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

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Amstrad 6400 DD

by manney＠nwohio.nwohio.com

Yes it is a PC compatible -- it's an XT. I suppose the DD referred to Double Disk, but I pulled the second floppy to install the hard drive. It's a peculiar, many-screwed, (phenolic?) plastic case. manney(a)nwohio.com

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Amstrads in the US

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor? is the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem? >When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I >found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired >these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's >your uncle. > >PS If you can't work out how to do it from the above, don't try it >yourself, get someone with some more electrical knowledge :-) > >Philip.

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Firsts

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 01:59 AM 1/14/98 +0000, you wrote: >And, hey, all portable *ARE* bulky anyway even my Luddite is very Not all portables are bulky -- m100, portfolio, Geneva, Starlet, etc. all come to mind. >thick and heavy. Even the T1000 early one is clusmy too. But nowhere like the 5100. >My opinion is that IBM 5100 is the winner for most heaviest and >unprotected portable. Even modern smallest desktops with built-in I dunno about most unprotected, but I used to have a Centronics 101 portable printer that was tough for even *me* to lift! And the Sony 17" portable display unit my atari club has could probably give the 5100 a run for its money weightwise. >I wouldn't have any handles on anyway. Reasonably good idea this way >so users are forced to hold it carefully and stuff their portables >into padded bags/cases. Handles invites accidents and some swing >around too easily, bang into other objects that could crack/break >screens and hard drives like that, handles breaks, *CRASH!* Or you could make it well enough that that wouldn't matter... 8^) Besides, you put a handle on an IBM 5100, turn around quick, and you could *kill* someone! 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Question

by ZGE＠aol.com

Greetings, I am new to the group , I posted a message a couple of days ago , I was not sure if it got out . Has anyone ever heard of a kx-33b 4-bit microcomputer or any 4-bit microcomputer trainer type units . thanks, Frank.

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Question

by ZGE＠aol.com

Thanks for the response , the Heathkit ET 3400 is a good trainer . The kx-33b had only data switches and I am guessing , possibly only 16 nibbles of ram . Not much you could do with it but I thought it looked interesting . I once saw an add for it in the December 1979 issue of Popular Electronics page 117. I also ran across an add for the NRI computer I had mentioned earlier PE. 3\77 Pg. 37 from the add it looks to be called a model 832 .If anyone has the chance to go to any computer shows\auctions lately and has seen these type of computers I would appreciate hearing from you . Frank

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apple IIgs cards for lc

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello i saw two apple IIgs card for the apple lc for sale at a local computer store and was wondering if anyone wanted them? they appeared to new in box. dave

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Got an Apple IIgs

by rcini＠email.msn.com

I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs, floppy drives, or mouse. Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I can buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2". I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a copy of GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM? Thanks! Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use) ClubWin! Charter Member (6) MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking ============================================

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More DEC stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I found some DEC circuit boards. They're marked "ZG91100876" and they appear to be memory boards. Can anyone tell me what they are and what machine they're for? Joe

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Firsts

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

>>And of course, I'm on the train to work and my Haddock book is at home... >>What year was the compass? > >Compass 1100 1982 (Says it on the case as mfg. date) >GRiDCASE 3 1985 >GRiDCASE 1535exp 1989 (At least that's what the BIOS says) > >I threw the other two in just so I could remind myself to come up with a >timeline for the GRiD page. I'd like to find the original pricing on these >suckers. Anyone know where to look? Haddock says (now that I'm home) the Compass was early 1982, $6000-8000. Doesn't mention the others. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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What I did this weekend

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 01:17 PM 1/15/98, you wrote: > > >At 11:48 AM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote: >>Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an >>engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too long. Things "that go without saying" are usually what screw up the system. Things like that are best said up front. Better to have someone say "well, duh" then to have someone get stiffed. >>There should be an update prior to each outing to make sure that the >>machines are still wanted. > > That's not practical for me. I went looking (and found :-) last >Saturday, yesterday (found more) and I will go again today ( I know where >there's a keyboard that I need) and again next Thursday (big NASA auction) >for certain. I look a lot, that's why I find a lot. One of the FEW >advantages of living in a big city. The best thing to do is to list what you're after with a price of *what you'd be willing to pay for a second machine.* That way, if I say I want an osborne 1 and I'm willing to pay $50, and I go out and find one at the same time someone else finds one for me, I wouldn't mind paying the $50 for a second machine. Of course, you might miss out on that first machine at $75, but better safe than sorry (until you win the lottery, of course.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 3 months

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by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 09:52 PM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote: >Haddock says (now that I'm home) the Compass was early 1982, $6000-8000. >Doesn't mention the others. Forgive me, my ignorance, O Wise One, but what is this Haddock? -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

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Amstrads in the US

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor? is > the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem? > >>When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I >>found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired >>these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's >>your uncle. As Tony pointed out, 50/60 Hz shouldn't be a problem. HOWEVER, it should be pointed out that the transformer must be capable of carrying the power. I used a 10VA transformer to power the one or two devices that had 240V only. To run monitors and things, you'd need 100VA or so. Transformers do exist for just this sort of purpose, upto about 2kVA, but V. heavy! (Rule of thumb for switchmode power supplies - Look at ower consumption and assume 1VA = 0.6W) Finally, a tranformer designed for 60Hz must be derated to a lower VOLTAGE when used at 50Hz. I hope that hasn't got you all too confused. Philip.

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Recording data to a strand of wire?

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> <These two threads just bumped together in my head. Has anybody got > <an idea of how long data should last on wire? It can't have the same > > If it didn't rust forever or until a stronger field distrurbed it. Assuming one got a wire recorder working, what is the print-through situation like? I'd have thought not too good... Philip.

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HP 35 Red Dot calculator for sale

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hey, just in case anyone's interested in HP calculators there is a red dot model of the HP 35 for sale on Auction Web. For the ones of you that don't know what they are, the red dot is the very first batch of HP calculators that were ever produced by HP. They're very rare and you almost never see one for sale. If any of you have one, I'LL BUY IT! The URL is "http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4389154" and no I'm not the seller. Joe

28 years, 3 months

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Uncles/PC-C64c file transfers

by jfoust＠threedee.com

John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net> wrote: >Okay, so I have a C-64c, 1541 floppy, and monitor. Now how exactly would I >go about downloading programs from the internet on my PC machine and >porting them over to the Commodore? Will I need a special serial cable? Browse some C-64 web pages, you'll find lots of info about this. There are one or two emerged-standard parallel to DIN cables like "X1541" that you can easily craft (given the right connectors - I got lucky and found the right DIN in the junk box) that connect your PC printer port directly to the 1541. Works like a charm. I've also used a freeware utility on the Amiga that requires a tweak of the drive speed motor on a 5 1/4 drive, and that works OK, too. The 1541 is better, though, but you'll find a lot of bad sectors and out-of-spec disks on the C-64. - John Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>

28 years, 3 months

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Dick Smith System 80

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Hi! I think someone on this list is a System 80 expert, and I am hoping I can find them. :) I just picked up a System 80 with expansion box and disk drives, but I'm having some trouble. When I power it up I either get gibberish on the screen (the usual stuff you get before the ready signal) that doesn't go away, or, when I switch the box off,I just jump to BASIC. This happens with or without a disk in the drive. I tried another System 80, and that one didn't seem to notice the expansion box at all - it always went into BASIC, whether or not I had the box switched on. None of the manuals seemed to have anything useful to say, but I suspect that either I am being really stupid and failing to do something basic, or something is broken somewhere. Any ideas? Thanks heaps, Adam.

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US Computer Exchange

by LoneWolf＠c3net.net

Rob Campbell is a nice guy. He's located in Troy Michigan. Check out their web page at: uscomputerexchange.com

28 years, 3 months

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TRS-80 Stuff for sale

by higginbo＠netpath.net

Found these on an online auction: TRS-80 Expansion Interface http://www.haggle.com/cgi/getitem.cgi?id=201496013 RADIO SHACK TRS-80 EXPANSION INTERFACE-CATALOG NUMBER 26-1140-1 WITH BUFFERED EI CABLE. CONDITION UNKNOWN. SOLD AS IS. BUYER PAYS UPS SHIPPING, AND PAYS BY MONEY ORDER, OR CHECK. CHECKS CLEAR BEFORE ITEM SHIPPED. LOOKS TO BE O.K. OUTSIDE WITH EXCEPTION OF ONE MISSING RUBBER TIP ON BOTTOM. TRS-80 Mini Disk Drive http://www.haggle.com/cgi/getitem.cgi?id=201496017 RADIO SHACK TRS-80 MINI DISK DRIVE-CATALOG NUMBER 26-1160. TAKES 5.25 FLOPPIES. CONDITION UNKNOWN. SOLD AS IS. BUYER PAYS UPS SHIPPING, AND PAYS BY MONEY ORDER, OR CHECK. CHECKS CLEAR BEFORE ITEM SHIPPED. -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 3 months

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What I did this weekend

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 02:23 AM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote: >As for me, I'm into portable stuff... Anything, say $20 or less I'll >definitely take it off your hands (or at least send you the $20). More than >that, maybe ask first, unless it's really cool... Same here, as long as it's portable, AND made by GRiD Systems. -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 3 months

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Looking for a 14 pin DIN cable

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 06:03 AM 1/15/98 +0000, you wrote: >Doea anyone have a spare 14 connector DIN cable? I need one for >connecting a disk drive to my Thomson TO-8 computer. I believe the same >cable is used to connect drives to the Atari ST series machines. Check with one of the many Atari dealers out there... Best Electronics (San Jose) has just released a new catalog that is also supposed to be an excellent reference. Do a search on them and you should find it; several other vendors (Like B&C) also sell the best catalog. You could also try Computer Direct (I think) in Canada; they're a big dealer. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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