- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

*Microsoft Windows 3.0 package - Factory sealed, new. Complete with manual and 5 5.25" 1.2mb disks. Can make additional 1.44mb copies to accompany if you don't have a 5.25" drive. I have 2 of these left. Microsoft Windows 3.1 User's Manual - 650 pgs, complete reference to Windows 3.1. I have 2 of these left. Any of the above items are $15 each and include shipping in the lower 48 states. They may not last long so email me soon. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Wanted stuff (and a donation for schools) (Was: Pretty good week)

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

>Have a Mac 512k system complete with manuals, software, printer, mouse, keyboard >for $75 plus shipping. Works great but needs to have the 400k floppy changed as >it's getting a little sloppy. Otherwise it works great and parts are available >for it as easy as for PC's. It's a friends machine and she put over $1500 into >this unit only 8 yrs ago and has been the only owner. OK, right now, I'm in an Apple ][ mode. ;-) >Have a Quantum 80mb 3.5" IDE hard drive for $30 which includes shipping. I'll >include the specs/settings sheet. Ran into that problem before. I want this machine working, but I can't (legally) pay for anything. So, back to square 1... Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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PS/2 55SX motherboards

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

Have a bunch of PS/2 model 55SX motherboards in the "Reply" boxes in great condition for sale or trade. Will sell separately for $25 each or will work a better price for multiples. I'll also trade for equal value of cdroms, sound cards, parity SIMMs in 30 or 72 pin for other machines I'm working on. Of course shipping is extra but these are light. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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What is this? XEROX 820

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I found a XEROX 820 in a trift store today. Can anyone tell me what it is <It has a base unit with a built in monitor. It has four ports on it. One <connects to a daul 5 1/4" disks drives in an external box. Another connec <to a separate keyboard. The other two are for a serial port and printer p Z80 based CP/M engine. When xerox got out they sold off the stocks of boards and they were the hackers joy. Allison

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Pretty good week

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I run Minix on my 386 (or at least have it installed). In my case, version 2.0 which seems to be the latest. I don't think it's a good idea to run it in 128K, though. I use the 386 version, however, so I wouldn't know. What about Xenix? Also, what is prime time? You aren't planning to start your own ISP with this, are you? > >Here, take my 10 year old copy of Minix. BTW, is anybody up to speed on >the current state of Minix? I have an itch to run *ix on a 128K 8086 box, >and it doesn't look like ELKS is ready for prime time. > >-- Doug > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Creativision

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

I've fired up a page on my Creativision home computer. You can select it off the main menu at http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/weird/ Or, if you want to skip the menu and other computers, you can visit direct at http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/weird/creativision.html Enjoy! A

28 years, 1 month

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Classic computers on Jeopardy?

by dastar＠wco.com

What was Friday nights Jeopardy question in the catgeory "1980's" having to do with Radio Shack? I forgot what the question was but it was something about Radio Shack and the answer was "computer". Sorry, had to know as I missed this by walking away to check on dinner. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 1 month

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by fmc＠reanimators.org

"John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> wrote: > My best find was free card called a SYNPHONIX Electronic Speech > Articulator model 100 by a company called Artic Technologies with a date > 1985 on it. Does anyone have any more info on this card such as is for a pc > or apple, any special software needs ? Thanks and keep on computing --> Artic Technologies makes (at least I think they are still around, they were a year or so ago) devices that talk. I've seen them in operation because one of my co-workers is blind and needs that sort of thing to use her computer. That said, I think one of the devices she has is an ISA card with the SYNPHONIX legend on it. It has an ISA back plate with a headphone jack and (I think) a volume control knob poking through. There is also a speaker on the card that can make itself heard over the fan and through the case. It's been a while since I've seen this one (she used it briefly in 1995-1996, I think she keeps it as a spare) and I've no idea whether they also made any Apple-flavored devices. Until recently she used a serially-attached talking box, also from Artic. Now she is using software that can use the sound card in her PC (it previously used the Artic box but she prefers to not carry extra bits around). Regarding software, from what I've seen of the Artic software, it is copy-protected and uses the Artic talker as a serialized dongle. The new software (from another company) has a key disk that lets you install the authorization on the hard disk, sort of like the old Lotus 1-2-3 v2.0 copy protection. Hope this helps, -Frank McConnell

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What a concept! Was: Thinkpad 700/720 series HDD's

by jpero＠cgo.wave.ca

Hi all, just to add spice to this list. I would'nt do business with that if this business keeps up like this. Common experience anyone? The question is clearly presented to this guy. (!!) Jason D. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:34:15 -0500 To: "Jaoson D. Pero" <jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca> From: John Purdy <jpurdy(a)amgupgrades.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 700/720 series HDD's At 12:03 PM 2/27/98 -0500, you wrote: Hi, I would like a price quotes on these two: 340mb and 810mb and is it user-installable? Thanks! Jason D. Thank you for visiting the AMG Web site. All requests for memory pricing are responded by the AMG representative who covers your state. By reply eMail could you provide us that information? Many thanks, and we look forward to working with you on this and other upgrades as they are needed. AMG, Inc. email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca Pero, Jason D.

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Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Tim, I am unable to find the Ampro Little Board BIOS source. There <are some utilities, patches, and such in source form and a text <reference to a file 38BIOS.LBR (in the JSAGE area), but I cannot <locate the file itself. Can you cite directory pointers, please. Don, It's in the .lbr file like many items in the collection they are either arc/ark/lzh/lbr/zip or whatevered into compacted libraries. Because it's compacted it makes finding an individual file real tough. If you can't find them (they are there) let me know I have them on line. Allison

28 years, 1 month

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Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<erm, isn't the walnut creek cd-rom predominantly stocked with the same <stuff that is on oak? which kind of implies that so long as you aren't <doing it for profit, it's just another kind of distribution. you <probably couldn't duplicate the walnut creek packaging without getting <copyright sorted, but if you just reassemble the content without <duplicating form (or necessarily even providing any) that shouldn't <infringe anyone's copyright. About 95% can be found out on the net at OAK and simtel among others. I'm sure some even have the CDrom on line. There may be a few peices that are unique to the cdrom like the viewer/search tools but the rest are PD or shareware. As to assembling another there are ways to organize things to make hem easier to find when they are embedded in compacted collections. Allison

28 years, 1 month

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Wanted Stuff

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

[Commodore PSU] I had a C64 before, and the PSU worked fine. Then I fried the C64, but kept everything but the actual machine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Walnut is a CD publisher. Unless they assembled the disc themselves, then someone else assembled the data and may own the (collection copyright) rights to reproduction of new CDs. Of course, they may be looking for a new publisher, or may try to publish it themselves. Walnut probably dropped it for lack of sales. They like to see at least 1,000 copies sold a month. If you own a copy of the old CD, check the credits and I'm sure you can track down the creator. Or ask Walnut Creek. They might tell you. It's more cost-effective and less risky these days to do short-run CDs on CD-R. Still, all-told you can get 1,000 "real" CDs for $800-$1,500, depending on which options you want. - John Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>

28 years, 1 month

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Wanted stuff (Was: Pretty good week)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 27, 21:32, lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk wrote: > Subject: Wanted stuff (Was: Pretty good week) > an original archimedes, with the original arthur os and the gui in basic Well, as mentioned in another message, I've got the machine (not for sale :-)) and probably the ROMs. I could certainly copy the "Welcome" disk. But for those who don't already know, the "gui" was really just a small collection of demo programs that sat on top of the O/S, and wasn't terribly functional. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Osborne Executive

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

I have the opportunity to get one - cosmetics OK, operation dubious - for $60. Is this machine (Osborne Executive) worth picking up, or relatively common? Thanks A

28 years, 1 month

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Circuit cellar

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I found compilation VII of Circuit cellar, one from 1986 to 1990 at the library. Does anyone have "extra" copies of the other ones (though I don't have all 1986-1990 anyway) that they could give me for less than the reprints/backissues? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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Wanted stuff (Was: Re: Pretty good week)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

My only predicament being that the next day, I will wander into a thrift store that is selling them for $3 a piece. No, I meant like stuff that someone would want essentially to throw away to me :) BTW, are those 64's the brown or the white ones? Do they come with boxes, manuals, etc? > >Max Eskin wrote: > >> -A Commodore 64,128,128D (I have all the stuff for the 64 except the >> actual unit. I even have a PSU) >> >> I know most of this stuff isn't much to you people, but I wouldn't mind >> them :) > >I have C64's with power supplies for $15 a set plus shipping. To Mass it >should be roughly $5 to ship USPS. These are near -new machines that were >excess to a local school, never used and they've gone to Win95 and Pentiums >now. > >A also have like new 1541 drives as well, $10 plus shipping. If you were to >get a drive, C64 and power supply togehter I'd go $20 for the set plus >shipping. Of course shipping is a little more since the 1541 is 10 lbs by >itself. I clear around $1.50 on a set like this but they are in my way so >I'd rather break even than step over the boxes of them for the next year. > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Russ Blakeman > RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 > Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 > Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com > Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ > > * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Wanted stuff (Was: Re: Pretty good week)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I live in Massachussetts. We have plenty of mediocre PCs, half the time I don't bother. I see mostly XTs at thrift stores, recently I saw a Compaq Portable. I didn't bother with a Mac 512K, and missed out on an SE and LC. If any of you see any machines that are not too big, please ship them to me. I will pay shipping and a few bucks extra. I am interested in most non-PC or Mac stuff. On my wanted list are: -Any model Amiga -A Commodore 64,128,128D (I have all the stuff for the 64 except the actual unit. I even have a PSU) -A SMALL Unix station, including NeXT -Portables, PC or Z80 -Not sure how big a MicroVAX is, but if it is what the name implies (wasn't it just a tower?), then by all means -Maybe a CoCo if it has a disk drive I know most of this stuff isn't much to you people, but I wouldn't mind them :) >so many that I have to pick and choose. I left behind 4 AT&T 3B2s, a >NeXt, an AT&T 6300, 2 HP Appollos and 2 HP 9000/300s yesterday. All >of that was at a GSA auction at KSC. I did get a COMPLETE Commodeore >Pet set and a Vax Station 3100 for Zane. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued

by lisard＠zetnet.co.uk

seth: :If it turns out that this product has been completely discontinued, :and is no longer being sold, I can easily make a copy of mine for :anyone who needs one, just for cost of materials. :Note, however, that I'm not talking about piracy here :) I'd only erm, isn't the walnut creek cd-rom predominantly stocked with the same stuff that is on oak? which kind of implies that so long as you aren't doing it for profit, it's just another kind of distribution. you probably couldn't duplicate the walnut creek packaging without getting copyright sorted, but if you just reassemble the content without duplicating form (or necessarily even providing any) that shouldn't infringe anyone's copyright. -- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her... Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive

28 years, 1 month

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80-Micro magazine??

by archive＠navix.net

Hello: Do any of you know if there are any on-line references to the old 80-Micro magazine that was published by Wayne Green back in the 80s hayday of the TRS-80 computer? Do any of you have any collections of this magazine for sale? Thanks, CORD COSLOR -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

28 years, 1 month

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Modern Minimalism (Was: Future Computing Trends)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Mike Allison wrote: > SHELL= > or > AUTOEXEC.BAT line to execute the program > or > REXX script > or > A program which bootstraps the other program. An AUTOEXEC.BAT line to execute the program does not let you omit COMMAND.COM, which is what was asked for. SHELL= does. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Modern Minimalism (Was: Future Computing Trends)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Most of the questions ELKS must now answer, as a UNIX clone, have > been answered in CPM as a stand alone solution. Plus there's a boat > load of free programs. Bear in mind that most of the free programs are written in 8080 or Z80 assembler; they're not going to move to something else readily, if at all. > BTW - Roger, > Where are you at? I'm in Ogden... Logan. > You're not related to Joni are you? The name doesn't ring a bell. My immediate family is from the Duchesne area. I have a half-brother living in the Ogden area (Gerry Ivie). > (Everyone in Utah is related ; - } ) Definitely the case for us bearing the name 'Ivie'. AFAIK, all the 'Ivie's in the US (including the 'Ivey's; there was some confusion about the spelling a while ago) are related. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Modern Minimalism (Was: Future Computing Trends)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> What would be nice is an ELKS-like thing for DOS, so that one could > stick in a floppy disk, and it would boot into any program that you > choose, without Command.Com. You can already do this using SHELL= in CONFIG.SYS. I did this many years ago (more than 10, OK? (Have I really been puting up with MS-DOS that long?)) to make a diskette that booted directly into WordStar. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Modern Minimalism (Was: Future Computing Trends)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> I think Linux is the best choice to enable latter day retrocomputing. > Check out the ELKS project to put Linux on machines with very limited > resources: On the other hand, CP/M-68K is available from http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm/. A lot of it is written in C; with some work, it can be modernized and updated. What could be more retro than building the ability to port CP/M to anything with a C compiler? Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

28 years, 1 month

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6502 Books (was: Mac hi-res monitor)

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

From: Aaron Christopher Finney <A_Finney(a)wfi-inc.com> Subject: Re: Mac hi-res monitor >While I'm here, I am desperately searching for books on 6502 Assembly, >especially.... [snip] >"6502 Assembly Language Programming" by Lance Leventhal >Osborne/McGraw-Hill You would also want to look for O/MGH's "6502 Assembly Language Subroutines" by Lance Leventhall as well as Winththrop Saville. The first section contains an excellent overview of the 6502 command set, it's quirks (such as not placing indirect reference commands near page boundries etc. Not to mention the rest with routines for interger and floating point math, string manipulation, sorting, etc.) The routines are fairly generic so it would not be hard to implement on any 6502 machine. I'd consider that and 6502 Assembly Language Programming well worth the effort to find. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our Commodore 64 BBS (Silicon Realms 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Is the RL02 cable straight-through?

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I have to remake an EL02 cable (Or at least the board > bulkhead part) for this to work. (This being the RL02) Is it a straight through cable? -------

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CLASSICCMP digest 338

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

From: "Lawrence Walker" <lwalker(a)mail.interlog.com> Subject: Re: TRS-80 Questions On 24 Feb 98 at 21:27, Tony Duell wrote: >> > 2. Included with a TRS CoCo 1 I picked up last summer was >> > an adapter plugged into the cass.port. a label "TotalCommunications" >> > on one side and "Telelearning" on the other. Into this was plugged >> > another M/M adapter labelled " RS232 Gender Changer" Was this for >> > hooking up a fdd and/or modem ? >> >> My guess, and it's only a guess is that this is some kind of kludge to >> allow you to CLOAD (and maybe CSAVE) programs to/from an RS232 device. It >> may have been part of one of those classroom 'networks' where the teacher >> loaded a program onto his machine, all the pupils typed CLOAD, the >> teacher typed CSAVE and the program was downloaded onto all the pupils' >> machines. >> > Now that seems like it has possibilities . And it takes up so >little room ! It is more than likely a modem or parts to one. On the Commodore 64 the Total Telecommunications Modems are very well known (because they were VERY cheap and good quality Commodore 1650 clone direct-connect auto-answer 300 baud modem) I ran my BBS on one for years.. My assumtion is that the Telelearning project (which, from my book, looks like a Compuserve, Q-Link or similar on-line network geared for education) failed miserably and all the modem/software packs were sold at pennies to the dollar. I thought there were just Total Telecomm modems out there.... I wonder what other computers that made modems for. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our Commodore 64 BBS (Silicon Realms 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Pretty good week (Where to find stuff)

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>> Better question is where they FIND them, I have plenty of room and my wife is >> mostly understanding. Well, in the way that an antelope understands linear >> algebra anyway. I recently tried advertising in a national computer "for sale" magazine. This worked very well, but I don't know if it would work so well outside of Australia. Huge numbers of offers, some of which were really good - but they came from all over Australia, and many were either XTs or other boring computers, or situations where people really belived they had a wonderful collectors items, and thus asked 3 or 4 times what I considered their worth. Adam.

28 years, 2 months

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Zenith Inteq

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Doug, I used to repair tempested Zenith Inteq 248 machines in the late 1980's. As mentioned earlier, the 16 bit boards were all isolated in the chassis and had cables run through a dead space to the external connectors. All boards have rfi suppression coils built in and of course there is a rfi suppression braid gasket running the entire circumference of the main system unit, if I recall there were about thirty-six to forty screws holding the cover on. The keyboard was tempested as well as the color monitor, both of these being very heavy in comparison to a untempested Z-248 system. I ran service calls out at the Vint Hill Farms Army base (near Warrenton, Virginia) to service these and always found it strange to have a tempested unit in a shielded building in a bank vault. Yes they used Syquest 10MB removeable disks. Also, whenever we had one of these units in our shop for repair (off base), prior to it being placed back in service, security would use an rfi sniffer prior to acceptance to ensure there was no leakage. I found a complete Zenith Inteq 248 with tempested color monitor and keyboard at a church sale a few years ago. I regretfully broke the rfi qa seal on the system unit and removed the cmos battery (AA lithium) as I was afraid it would leak and damage the system unit as I was tucking it away (until I find space to display it). When I broke the seal, I documented the date and reason why and placed this note inside the system unit so as to document its history. The system booted fine. Built like a tank. Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Zenith Inteq Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 2/26/98 11:08 PM Doug Yowza wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Mike Allison wrote: > > > My experience with these "TEMPEST" machines is that it's usually best to > > swap out all the parts (great difficulty at times) and use the AT parts > > in another box. The box is heavy and, as you stated, designed to > > firewall the parts from the actual physical ports. There are good parts > > on them however, disk drives, scsi connectors, video cards, mother > > boards, memboards, that would work nice in another box and be easier > > (read that cheaper) to mail. "TEMPEST" standards are there to afford proper sheilding to prevent radiations/emmisions fromt he machine when it's being used for security information. The thicker covers, ground braids and multiple screws in the covers make it better sealed and there should be no emmisions over 12 inches from the machine, or none at all ideally. Other than the power supply being a class A type, the rest is normal but may have been refitted with a shielded faceplate. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Feb26.230809.1767.29101; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:08:09 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA29024; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 20:02:44 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA24610 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 20:02:37 -0800 Received: from bnllc2.blue.net (bnllc2.blue.net [206.65.217.254]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA07557 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 20:02:36 -0800 Received: from bbtel.com (brand231.blue.net [206.65.221.231]) by bnllc2.blue.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05034 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:03:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34F63CAA.D1049E27(a)bbtel.com> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:10:18 -0600 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Zenith Inteq References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980226214359.11741A-100000(a)behemoth.host4u.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

28 years, 2 months

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Pretty good week

by A_Finney＠wfi-inc.com

I'm lucky, in that I sit in a nice, big computer dungeon at work that the bosses seem to not care about much. Either that or they can't tell the difference between the new Digital NT boxes and the Vaxen.... ;) At 07:26 AM 2/27/98 -0500, you wrote: ><><< Geez, where do you guys keep all these computers??? >> > >4bedrooms and the computer room is the smallest and also my office. That >limits me to 150sqft or about 1000cuft inside the house. The garage >is also huge (and resonably warm in the winter) so a fair amount it out >there too. > >< Yeah, it's easier to give up the wife and kids and to keep the ><computers. A lot quieter too. > >Forget kids, I am the wife! > >Allison > >

28 years, 2 months

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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<><< Geez, where do you guys keep all these computers??? >> 4bedrooms and the computer room is the smallest and also my office. That limits me to 150sqft or about 1000cuft inside the house. The garage is also huge (and resonably warm in the winter) so a fair amount it out there too. < Yeah, it's easier to give up the wife and kids and to keep the <computers. A lot quieter too. Forget kids, I am the wife! Allison

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Osborne Executive

by cgregory＠lrbcg.com

Although it is very clean and included all the manuals and software, I paid twice that for my Executive. Cliff Gregory cgregory(a)lrbcg.com -----Original Message----- From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> To: Cgregory <Cgregory> Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 6:56 AM Subject: Osborne Executive > >I have the opportunity to get one - cosmetics OK, operation dubious - for >$60. >Is this machine (Osborne Executive) worth picking up, or relatively common? >Thanks >A > >

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More Parts for sale

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

In addition to the previous message today, I also have an original Tandy 1000 (no suffix) that can go a number of ways: Main unit with 640k ram (expansion card), 2 360k floppies, keyboard...$25 plus shipping Main unit with 640k ram (expansion card), NO floppies, keyboard ........$18 plus shipping Main unit with basic ram (no expansion), NO floppies, keyboard...........$ 15 plus shipping The shipping weight is dependant upon the way it gets sold. Buy the complete unit ($25 plus s/h) and I'll throw in a Tandy joystick. As to the items I'll have left, that depends on how the unit gets sold. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Zenith Inteq

by archive＠navix.net

p.s. these computers mentioned in a previous post also have video cards that support both VGA and RGB monitor graphics. CORD -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

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Pretty good week

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

So far the week has been good a few finds are; digital VT240 model VS240-B untested; HP Laserjet II has a paper feed problem; Chameleon luggable not tested yet; AST Premium 386/33 not tested yet; Tektronix KB pn 119-1592-02has built mouse pad; Apple IIe mouse; variuos books and manuals; a number of different cables; Sun 3/60 not tested yet; a large number of parts for apples, digital, pc, trs-80 and others. My best find was free card called a SYNPHONIX Electronic Speech Articulator model 100 by a company called Artic Technologies with a date 1985 on it. Does anyone have any more info on this card such as is for a pc or apple, any special software needs ? Thanks and keep on computing --> John

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Mac hi-res monitor

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

if you could estimate on the shipping charges to nc, i can let you know asap if i still want it. david In a message dated 98-02-26 11:55:09 EST, you write: << Are you still interested? At 10:56 AM 2/11/98 EST, you wrote: >yes! i need one! glad to pay shipping to nc. is it available? > >david > > >In a message dated 98-02-10 15:25:34 EST, you write: > ><< Does anyone need a Mac mono monitor? Model number MO400, circa 1987. Best > offer takes it, no matter how pathetic. Recipient either pays shipping or > picks it up in the LA area (it's not heavy at all, I can't imagine that ups > ground would be more than a few bucks on this thing). >> > >>

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Pascal System

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Mike Allison <mallison(a)konnections.com> wrote: > This is the UCSD P System which means that there is no way to copy it to > the HD as this _IS_ the operating system. This is the one in the sort of peach-colored IBM binders with slipcases, right? I had a copy of that a few years back (gave it to an interested friend back east). While I had it I made some observations. The manuals didn't mention hard^H^H^H^Hfixed disks at all. They also seemed to indicate that diskettes held about 160KB (i.e. no knowledge of double-sided disks). And it didn't want to boot on anything I had access to except the Panasonic Business Partner in the QA lab at work -- I'm not sure whether it objected to 80x86s for x>=2, clock speeds > 4.77 MHz, or what. -Frank McConnell

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Cliff Gregory

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Cliff, would you please e-mail me again? My profram swallowed your note. manney(a)lrbcg.com "Would a skinny ballerina wear a one-one?"

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Mac hi-res monitor

by A_Finney＠wfi-inc.com

Sorry, didn't mean to send this to the list. My apologies.... At 08:56 AM 2/26/98 -0800, you wrote: >Are you still interested? While I'm here, I am desperately searching for books on 6502 Assembly, especially.... "6502 Programming Manual" SYNERTEK or MOS Technology "6502 Assembly Language Programming" by Lance Leventhal Osborne/McGraw-Hill "Programming the 6502" by Rodney Zaks Sybex ....but any books would be considered. Cheers, Aaron

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Pascal System

by peacock＠simconv.com

Mike wrote: >I have an IBM Pascal System for the PC >Does anyone know if it's possible to use a hard drive with this system? > >There are no references and no seeming commands for manipulating >storage.... > >Ideas?? UCSD pascal? I never used the IBM version but the S-100 version had a way to add device drivers for hard drives ( I recall doing that to add in hard drive support for UCSD on DYNABYTE S-100 boxes). Vague on this, but the drivers were very low level, block read/write like in CP/M. If the IBM version allows for it, you should be able to do a small driver that just makes ROM BIOS calls for the hard drive.

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Altair 8800 pc cards

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

I was surfing the listings on the eBay auction and ran across these two Altair 8800 cards if anyone is interested. The bid was considerably lower than the ones sold last week. Here are the links... http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6903309 http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6874386 BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Zenith Inteq???

by archive＠navix.net

Is anyone interested in a Zenith Inteq computer? I have four available. They were used by the U.S. government and are heavily 'shielded' computers. They contain a 286 on a daughter-board, not sure how the motherboard is. Also have 2 360k floppy drives and one internal 10 meg Seaquest tape backup drive in it. Also have a bunch of tapes. Interestingly, there is a buffer on the back, meaning everything that plugs into the ports on the back, actually go through about a 4 inch buffer cable into the actual ports. These things are heavy, and fairly large. Please send any offers my way. Remember, I do have four of these units available... all in working condition. Thanks, CORD COSLOR -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

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Apple Koala pad drivers

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Does anyone have the (Apple) Koala Pad driver disk? One of my customers has a bad disk. Thanks, manney(a)lrbcg.com Would a skinny ballerina wear a one-one?

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Parts for sale

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

I have the following items for sale (possible trade) TRS-80 model 4 - this unit is nearly functional but I'm comsidering parting it out. It has a great motherboard, power supply, video section, floppy drives. The keyboard is damaged in that two keys are broken and it needs the ram changed due to a bad chip. If someone wants the entire thing they can have it for $15 plus shipping (42 lbs shipping weight). I'd take 4 1meg parity 30 pin SIMMs for it plus shipping as well. I want to see if I get any responses on the entire unit before I decide to split it up. Commodore 64 (older style, not 64C) - I have a bunch of these units, in working condition. I'll sell a 1541 drive, C64 and power supply (no cables) for $20 plus shipping. The entire unit weight is roughly 20 lbs. Commodore printers - I have various Commodore printers for sale as well. Drop me a line if interested. Apple ImageWriter II (color) printer - great condition, with 25 pin to 8 pin cable. $30 plus shipping. Apple external 5.25" floppy drives - like new set of two. One marked drive 1 and the other drive 2. Serial cables are attached. $30 for the set of two plus shipping. Mac 512k set complete - Original Mac 512k with 400k internal floppy, software, manuals, color thermal printer. Needs an alignment or replacement on the floppy drive. Instructions on upgrading the memory to 1mb using stacked DRAMs included. $90 plus shipping for all of it. Panasonic Sr. Partner 8088 "portable" computer. 512k ram, Two 5.25" floppies, green composite crt. All original except printer was removed. Otherwise a great machine. One open 8 bit expansion slot. $50 plus shipping (approx 25-30 lbs). Original IBM 5150 PC - original IBM keyboard, original IBM mono monitor. Terrific condition, floppy based. $50 plus shipping I also have SLOUGHS of various older parts for PS/2's and other older machines to include MFM, ESDI, IDE hard disks, half and full height floppies, option cards, network cards, yada, yada, yada...Drop me a line if you're looking for something. While this is a "business" it's actually a formalized part time hobby for me to pick up a few bucks with a hobby. I keep my prices as reasonable as possible so that the old "relics" can keep on going, and going, and going...... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued

by jrbrady＠mindspring.com

Thanks...I've already e-mailed Dave Baldwin. I'm a TCJ subscriber (as everyone on this list should be...!) I also e-mailed the CP/M FAQ coor- dinator with the [sad] news. Damn, another resource gone the way of the Compaticard. Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)mindspring.com Seattle, WA >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:27:57 GMT >From: toucansam9(a)juno.com (Leo M. Cavanaugh III) >To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu >Subject: Re: Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM Discontinued > >On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:00:09 -0600, you wrote: > >>The Computer Journal used to carry this CD. Try at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj/

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IBM S/36 emulator for Linux anyone?

by dwollmann＠ibmhelp.com

Would anyone be interested in working on an IBM S/36 emulator for Linux? I'm not a S/36 guru, but I have several, one 5363 up and running and about 10 years of experience hacking C (please don't throw any gimpelesque C programming problems at me, I'm not up for it right now <g>). I'm not ready to roll yet, but if anyone's interested I can start gabbing about it and collecting info. I want to install and play with a couple of the emulators that are floating around out there as well as collect information on the instruction set, etc. As far as periphs are concerned, we can get lift the OS (SSP) and microcode (if it's even needed) off a 5.25" set of the distribution diskettes from a standard PC floppy drive. I don't even want to think about 8", although it could be done with the the Microtech FDC and a driver. Just a thought. Dave Wollmann dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com

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Provenance and lineage

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Allison, I agree. Find an original classic and bring it back to life. But this is my subjective viewpoint (as well). If one wants to frankenstein a machine that is entirely their business, there is no right or wrong to this hobby and I can only speak for myself. I also restore old radios and televisions. Some fellow enthusiasts will take an old television cabinet and place a new color chassis in it, others refinish cabinets to look brand new. There are cases where an incorrect chassis is added to a set to get it working because the original is unobtainable. It is all subjective and up to the individual. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Provenance and lineage Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 2/26/98 12:00 AM < I don't care for replicas. Instead of building a replica why not try < to make your own design from scratch? At least it would be original. I'm likely one of the few that could build a TRS-80/altair/? clone and use unused parts all of the correct age! My spares bin is that deep and old. To me there is no point, I can find an original and bring it back to life easier. Allison ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Feb26.000025.1767.28853; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:00:25 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA25683; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:56:17 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA29334 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:56:00 -0800 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA18566 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:55:59 -0800 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA04350; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA14341; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199802260455.AA14341(a)world.std.com> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:55:43 -0500 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Provenance and lineage X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Electronic Goldmine

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I couldn't find my old catalog for these folks but I got a new one in the mail today. They have an 800 phone number, it's 1-800-451-7454. They also have a website at "www.goldmine-elec.com". Tell them I send you, maybe they'll give me a discount :-) This is the place that had the pens for the Radio Shack pen plotters. Joe

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Can anyone identify this item ? (BASF HD?)

by weese＠mind.net

BASF model 6106, part #54670 Looks like a HD, connected to a floppy with a ribbon cable, which then goes to the motherbd. Found in what appears to be a homebrew TRS80-type puter with LNW expansion board. Thanx in advance for any help. I'd also be interested in any advice as to where to list this Beast for sale. (weese(a)mind.net) ---mikey

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Motorola MEK6802D5

by amichael＠nortel.ca

I remember building embedded control systems with these D5 cards back in the early eighties. You are right, it is an evaluation system, but it was often used for simple prototypes and small production runs. Motorola priced it relatively cheap so engineers could gain familiarity with the 6802, which was an "update" of the classic 6800 processor. The 6802 incorporated the 2-phase clock generator circuitry onchip-- you used to have to add a nuisance clock circuit to make the 6800 run. I think the 6802 also included 256 bytes of RAM (but my recollection's fuzzy on this point.) Since the board also included a little debug/monitor program in PROM, using that hex keypad and display, you could learn a lot about the instruction set just by hooking up a power supply and playing. It was a lot like the KIM or AIM-65 boards for the 6502 cpu. Does the D5 have a large set of edge connect fingers (like, say, 86 contacts or something like that)? I can't remember... Other Motorola evaluation kits, like the D2 (a predecessor of your D5, also based on the 6802 cpu but built as 2 boards--the keypad was separate) had a full electrical interface to Motorola's ExorBus, which was their proprietary general-purpose microsystem bus. They made a full range of heavy-duty industrial boards for ExorBus, and their development systems used it too, so you could build full-blown microsystems with their board sets. This was a competitor to Intel's Multibus in the industrial control market. You could take a D2, when you got tired of playing with it as an evaluation system, detach the keyboard, and plug it in to an ExorBus as the cpu card. It's barely possible I've got some old docs hiding at home... I'll check. Ian McLaughlin <ian(a)okjunc.junction.net> writes: > >Hello all, > I just aquired a "Motorola Memory Systems MEK6802D5" single board >computer. It appears to be a 6802 evaluation or prototyping unit. It >has a hex keypad and a 6-digit HEX display. In my old Motorola >literature, I can find a reference for a MEK6802D3 from 1979, which >appears to be an older version of this. The date code on the chips >places it at circa 1980. > >Does anyone have any information on this unit? Any idea where I can get >any documentation or programming info? It appears to be fully functional >(at least, I get a display, and I can page up and down through memory >examining and changing contents, etc). > >Any info would be appreciated. -- Arlen Michaels Nortel Ottawa, Canada (613) 763-2568 amichael(a)nortel.ca

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