- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I got a PS/2 Model 60 and OS/2 2.0 (1992, but still classic) PS/2: a)How do I get rid of the mold inside? b)What is the PSU pinout if I want to put in a regular motherboard? c)Is there a way to upgrade the mb to 386 with <$10 and a 386 mb OS/2: a)I installed it on a 386 w/4 MB RAM (min. requirement). It CRAWLS. Should I replace the MFM HDD w/ IDE? b)Does anyone have os/2 1.x that they could send me? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Calc wars

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Although recent world-wide test results have proven otherwise, the US board of education seems to think that calculators improve students' minds (I feel that the insane amount of money that schools put into technology these days is better spent on books and teachers). Therefore, in our school most seniors and juniors either own or rent a TI-8x. The TI-83 is the one that the school actually promotes, but TI-85s are often stole...ahem....seen as well. My friend is probably one of the few there to have a TI-92. I'll bet it could run System 1.0 with a few modifications ;) >I wonder what the odds of finding a ti-85 are and cost? They are hackable >from what I gather. > >Allison PS That OS I mentioned earlier is essentially Win3.1 for TI. It is a concurrent windowing interface. Right now, he's trying to figure out the concurrent part... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Sol-20 revisited

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Assuming that this is electrically the same as the S100 version, then... < <The 8097 is the data buffer betwen the RAM and the S100 DI lines. It's <used on reading only. I don't see how it would affect writing to the RAM If the input is internally shorted to either rail. I've seen this mode of failure on old chips. <There are some 74LS08 AND gates that are used as buffers between the S100 <DO lines and the RAM inputs. It's possible that one of these has become <faulty, I think. Entirely possible. <There is a 74LS175 latch (well, actually a pair of them) between the RAM <outputs and the character generator. Now one bit of that chip could well <be faulty (IC6 on the S100 card, I think). Yes, also possible. <Not so. One of the most common failure modes of old IC's is that the <bondout wire between a pin and the silicon die breaks or comes adrift. If <the A2 line (pin 12) of the character generator had failed in this way - <or if the input buffer in the ROM had failed - we'd see exactly this <pattern. Also true but less likely. Allison

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Is this getting out?

by kyrrin＠jps.net

Every time I've tried to post to this list, I've been getting it bounced back with a 'Full Mailbag' error. I hope this one gets through... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Is this getting out?

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

I have the same problem, but my mail still gets to the list. Most annoying, though. A -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)jps.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, March 07, 1998 7:16 AM Subject: Is this getting out? > Every time I've tried to post to this list, I've been getting it bounced >back with a 'Full Mailbag' error. I hope this one gets through... > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) >(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) >"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own >human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..." >

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Found a Apple IIGS UPgrade

by KFergason＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/6/98 1:00:49 AM Central Standard Time, dastar(a)wco.com writes: << I believe there was an upgrade kit that came out a short while after the //gs was introduced that allowed one to upgrade their //e to a //gs. >> Also, the original beta GS's were in //e cases. I've always wondered what happened to the 2 our company had. I don't believe Apple wanted them back. Kelly

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>Yes, you can diassemble the code, no problem. One thing to watch for is >to make sure that you know how the address and data lines on the board >are linked up. You see, all 8 data lines on an EPROM are equivalent. It >may be conventional to assign a particular pin as D0, etc, but there's >no reason that you have to. But obviously if you want to make sense of >the code, you have to know how the bits in the word are connected to the >8080. Ummmmm.... I was stunned tonight to look under the motherboard of this machine and find that it is totally wire-wrapped. Amazingly neat, but wire-wrapped and socketed - every single chip. Finding paths in this thing is going to be very very time consuming! This computer must have been extremely expensive in its day - the amount of work involved is incredible - not having made anything like it, I'm only guessing... but I'd guess many tens of man-hours. Coincidentally, I was on the hunt for another machine (Mattel Aquarius) and the owner and I got into a discussion about S100 machines - he has a garage of them, apparently (he used to design them) - and I told him about the EPROMs (1702As) and how I was going to back mine up - and he said "I have four of those things!!!" Yes, before you ask, I am going after those S100 machines :) Cheers A

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Cheap 5 1/4" DD/DD Floppy disks

by cchi＠lle.rochester.edu

Thanks for the info! I appreciate it! Chris

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Broken TRS-80 Model 1

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Seems like old hardware is more available than old software <and documentation. I suppose copyrights still exist on this stuff, <but it seems like the web is the perfect place for old tech reference <manuals and schematics. Wasn't Allison involved with the TRS-80 <development? Know anyone at RS who might be able to sign off on <putting this stuff into the public domain so our types can publish <this documentation? I have not been at shack for nearly 20 years. As far as I know the docs for the TRS80 are still available from TANDY National Parts. Contact the local shack and see. If that's true any effort to make them PD is dubious. Allison

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Is this getting out?

by cchi＠lle.rochester.edu

It's getting out to ME. When you got the "full mailbag" error messages, did they show up as "return e-mail" messages? That probably means that one of the list-members who should have RECEIVED your message, had a "full mailbag" and couldn't take another message. Everyone OTHER than that guy, though, from whom you DIDN'T get an error message, probably DID get your message. Chris Chiesa "the new guy"

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Found a Apple IIGS UPgrade

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

A few weeks back someone asked about Apple IIGS that looked like a IIe, well a got one today at an auction for free. The guy that won the bid on box of electronics gave it to me but he gave the color monitor to someone else :-( It looks just like a IIe or II case except for the IIGS logo on the lid next to the apple name. On the bottom it says Apple IIGS Upgrade Model No. A2S6001 with a serial number following that. No date is on the bottom but the mother board says Apple IIGS on it also and has 7 slots on the rear another to the side with a memory expander in it right now. It has the standard 15pin monitor hook-up like the Mac and round phono jack. The rear looks like a Mac LC or IIci. No date mb either that I can find. Have not fired it up yet. Also got a Tandy 1000RL for twenty with kb and mouse. Got a number of manuals, tech ref's and other written goodies also >from .05 to 3.00 each. Got a apple ext. 3.5 FDHD drive for free at the scrap yard but have tested it yet. A IBM 8535-312 missing the memory for $15 will fire it this weekend. Picked up a NeXt N4000B 17" monitor for 16 and a new NeXt software rel 08.30 chip with a date 1988 and serial number of 000A81. Well that's it for I got more stuff this week than I can list here for now. Keep Computing John

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Finally gone...

by william＠ans.net

For quite a few years, one bit of folklore that has popped up on a regular basis is that of old IBM dinosaurs running our air traffic control system. Well, I was just wasting some (work)time now looking at some recent threads on <bit.listserv.ibm-main>, and it is fairly clear that the 9020s are now all gone after probably too many years of service. The interesting thing is that the machines that replaced them, 3083s, are also now considered classics. William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

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Strange PCjr found

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I have a PCJr with a box (dimensions are same depth and height as system unit but is about 2 1/2" wide) that is mounted on the right hand side of the system unit and contains a parallel port. Is this what you are describing? Marty

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Demography?

by lisard＠zetnet.co.uk

On 1998-03-01 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu said to lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk :On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Captain Napalm wrote: :> Writable control stores: Don't count these out just yet. The new :>HP machines based upon the HP-PA stuff does have a writable :>control store. My friend has one of these boxes at home and he's :>been planning on playing around with this. :I've heard that even Pentiums will let you patch their microcode, yes? details...? *perk up noticeably* :but the idea as a general theme seems to be dead. I don't know the :reason for this except for speed and cost issues. we suspect it has something to do with microcode in general going out of fashion. these days even cisc machines are built with risc cores surrounded by hardware-based translators. some of the pentium clones even let you program them in their native languages. also, it's a bit difficult to write to a control store that's hardwired in silicon inside a plastic case... :< probably a better bet these days is to write a little inner interpreter for a risc, and it probably amounts to much the same thing. :True, some people are condemned to repeat history, but I'm willing :to bet that hardware byte-code engines will be pulled back into the :tar pit before they leave the cave at Sun (and other places). I :listed to a talk given by a Sun engineer on why they should build :these things, and the reasons he gave (such as byte-code is more :compact than other code) are really hard to buy. Defintely a :solution looking for a problem. there's only one reason why sun could want to do this - cheap java-only set-top boxes. it's a great way of locking out the competition (and given their current legal activities, you'd think they'd learn...) but whether it would make for the most efficient java platform is another matter. of course, there's also the proof-of-concept motive. "see? java *is* efficient, we've even built a chip with it..." :True again. p-Code made more sense then (when there was more than :one dominant architecture) than Java does now, but if Sun ever buys :into the idea of Java compiled to native code, there still may be :more hope for Java than there was for UCSD Pascal. well, if they do buy into that idea, let's hope it's at download time rather than with these damned silly just-in-time thingies (which only win if you execute a method more than once, and how do you know that until it's too late...?) elate (was taos) shows the way to go if you want platform independence these days, in our opinion. -- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her... Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive

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Apple IIc

by pb14＠leicester.ac.uk

On 6 Mar 98 at 10:44, J. Maynard Gelinas wrote: > Well, I scored an Apple IIc with an external Floppy drive, > Imagewriter printerer, and small composite green (maybe 9"?) monitor. > $20 bucks. The little white one from Apple that matches the IIc? If so, did you get the stand? > I also got some disks with it, but no games - mostly old > nibble magazine disks. This thing has a serial port on it, anyone > know what the pinout is and if these ports are compatible with > Macintosh adapters? For pinout information plus info on terminal emulators and DOS and ProDOS, try (one of) the Apple II FAQs at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/ The Nibble magazine disks were a good find too. Phil ************************************************************** Phil Beesley -- Computer Officer -- Distributed Systems Suppport University of Leicester Tel (0)116 252-2231 E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk

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Slightly on topic... tip for linux?

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Does anyone know if there is a tip for Linux? (The comm program?) It had an option to go to another port if the one needed was busy. Minicom can't do that. I would like that ability, 'cause when I connect the 44 here, I'd like to have people telnet to a port and get passed straight into the DH plug, via pip, without having to have an account on the PC -------

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value of Sol 20 and Imsai 8080

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

I am in the market for a Sol 20 and and/or an Imsai 8080. I would like to know what the "going" price is so that I will know how much to pay for them if they become available to me. Any opinions would be welcome. Thanks, Bob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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VSchool: (Directed at kids, but adult's welcome too!) Just an idea...

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hello. Several days ago, under the demography thread I briefly mentioned the "VSchool" concept. So, for those interested, here's what I want to do. Background info: The VSchool idea came from two needs: my need to create a virtual community, and, more importantly, the need for children (ages pretty much 6th grade-12th grade) to be able to learn at their own rate. At the subjects that they're interested in, or feel weak in. So, I then think of a place where all this could take place, actively, and freely. Now, Bahrain is far to remote to even begin to demonstrate something. Also, it's got limited resources and views. The Internet. It's used by far more than the population of any city, and equal to that of many countries. How I plan to pull it off: This is the area that I don't have to spend 50 lines telling you what CGI is and does. So, I'll use CGI (anyone got info on this?) to put up forms, (I can't program it... sorry...), and then we can make a chat room of some sort, possibly a Javascript password form. (Ok, so I'll need lots of help) So far, the best deal that I've seen in web hosting is digitalchainsaw (at http://www.digitalchainsaw.net) Anyway, we'll have two functions: Students will "enroll" (for free), and then they'll choose their area of expertise. There, they will be considered a teacher. In other areas, they'll be considered students. Teachers will work together to develop a curriculum. Then, they'll work together to teach others. I want to have a copmputer history as well as a computer interest group. I'm asking for your help. You would be considered a partner, if you wanted. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>>I'd rather not do this, not because I don't want to help you, but because >>I'd be a little worried about sending 4 irreplaceable eraseable chips >>through the post. I would hope somebody Stateside could help you. > > Trouble is, he's in Australia not in the US. The ROMs are going to have >to be shipped unless someone in Au has a 1702 reader. Yes. I am fairly comfortable with sending these overseas for preservation. I expect to back the code up in several places; on the web, distributed to whomever of you indicates interest, and also on duplicate EPROMS, on my computer, tattooed in hex on my shoulder... that should just about do it. :) What sort of reliability does well made, but 23 year old, wire wrap circuitry have? Is wire-wrap susceptible to "slip"? Cheers A

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>>I expect to back the code up in several places; on the web, distributed to >>whomever of you indicates interest, and also on duplicate EPROMS, on my >>computer, tattooed in hex on my shoulder... that should just about do it. >>:) > > I think it would look better on your forehead. Be easier to read too. :-) *makes mental note* Don't do it whilst looking in a mirror! > Is wire-wrap susceptible to "slip"? > No, it's more like it welds itself on. Especially if it's good >wirewrapping. Oh, the quality looks superb. This is one well-made machine. Cheers A

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Demography

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Joachim Thiemann wrote: > While we're at it (the buisness of veering grossly off-charter), who > else here collects electronic music equipment of about the same vintage > as the computers discussed here? I have a Korg Poly-800, Yamaha DX-7II, > 2 FB-01's, CS-01, a Sequential SixTrack, 360 Systems MidiBass, and a > homebrew MIDI interface to hook some of this to my Amiga. I have Yes, but not very enthusiastically. I've never really got into electronic music, preferring to do my composing (and most of my playing) at the piano. But, (getting a little closer to the topic) I do have a rather fun device - a Bontempi organ with a number of built in rhythms implemented in 74-series discrete gate TTL. > BTW Any of you UK guys have collections of the old E&MM magazine? I'm > missing 1 or 2 issues in the 84 (83?) season... Sorry, not something I ever read. > > > > sing and play Piano and Bassoon; I have recently taken up > > photography. > > > > Eh, who'd have figured.. another bassoon player. Who is it? I missed > > some > > important attributions. 'Twas I, Philip Belben. For what it's worth. I don't think that bassoonists are rare enough that two or three on this list is statistically significant. Still, nice to hear from another one. (On the other hand, there is probably a strong correlation between bassoonists and eccentrics, and a stronger one between this list and eccentrics.) Philip.

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Vacation Finds...

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

I had a working CMB 8032, and one day a couple years ago, saw an ad in the paper "Wanted: CBM 8032". A couple in their 70's placed it. The wife is a writer, and not a computer user, and only knew how to use her CBM 8032 which was 15 years old and failing. I brought my 8032 (which I had set up in my office, after it fell from a high shelf and put a dent in the hood of my car) to them, swapped it out, swapped roms (mine had some sort of add-on board) and tore-down, cleaned, and re-assemble the keyboard for them. and off they went. I think they did have all the manuals and stuff for the computer, disk drives, and printers. alas, I don't have any PET computers anymore. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [SMTP:erd@infinet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 3:28 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: Vacation Finds... > > > > > Have been on vacation since Friday and still have a couple days to > > go... From the thrift store outlook in the area things are > improving > > again (I guess people are starting their pre-spring cleaning) > > > > What I passed up on... > > PET 8032, 4040 dual drive. > > Agggggh! I'd *love* to replace my long-lost 8032. It was one of the > item > burgled from my house a while back, along with an Amiga 500 and a rare > A500 > to 8-bit ISA adapter from Canada called "The Wedge". I _really_ wish > I > had that... it was built for a WX-1 MFM controller (or a DTC 5160 RLL > controller), but would work perfectly for an 8-bit Ethernet card. > > Anyway, rambling aside, where are you on vacation and is the PET still > there? > > -ethan > > ObBIO: 31, Male, collect 1802/6502/68000/PDP-8/PDP-11/VAX/SPARC. > Started > with the PET and Elf in 1977. Have spare Apple ][, C-64, Amiga and > SunSPARC > parts/systems for trade. My rarest find is probably my tiny > collection of > 4004 CPUs and support chips. >

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Calc wars, other calc stuff, my own previous post (uVAX/GPX)

by cchi＠lle.rochester.edu

Hello all... me again. I apologize for writing twice in one day, but I've requested "Digest mode" and am finding several topics I can respond to. I should've waited before sending the previous message, but will now be aware of this and will cover ALL current topics of my interest in this ONE note, to save you all the pain of seeing SEVERAL messages from me. (If you'd RATHER have several separate messages, someone just say so...) 1) Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> quotes a message quoted by someone else, in which the original author says that "... it's the HP25 that I still prefer..." Original author, whoever you are, I wanted to let you know that I have a set of original manuals and -- if I can still FIND it -- the AC adapter, left over when my own HP25 was stolen from me one day in high school -- circa 1978... If you're interested in these items, e-mail me. 2) At a Hamfest last spring I acquired a TI calculator -- I forget the model number right off; I wasn't expecting to talk about this today, but it's the programmable one that reads-and-writes those magnetic cards -- along with programming manual(s) and the external PRINTER, not to mention a fistful of the magcards. The only trouble is, instructions stored in program memory randomly get altered, i.e. the memory is no longer reli- able (hmm, just like ME!). Is it "just old," and there nothing that can be done? Or can it be repaired? Much obliged, for any info anyone can provide. 3) At that same Hamfest last spring, some guy found out I was "into" calcu- lators, HP in particular (notwithstanding that TI-whatever I'd just bought), and talked my ear off about some "latest and greatest" HP calculator that "did it all," allowing you to mix "ordinary" calculator statements, BASIC, and C syntax "all on one program line," among many other things. I have forgotten the model number, so if anyone recognizes this description and can TELL me the model number, and of course where to find out more about the thing, I'd really appreciate it. 4) My HP-33C battery doesn't hold a charge anymore; please advise. Joe Rig- don...? 5) Re: that uVAX stuff I mentioned in my PREVIOUS message: I'd be MOST inter- ested in anyone who could trade "my" stuff in London, for "his" set of the "same" stuff in the US! I can provide a more detailed itemization of what I have. Chris Chiesa

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CLASSICCMP partial digest 346

by cchi＠lle.rochester.edu

Hi. I'm new. But enough chatter. I see Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)jps.net> is interested in uVAX II GPX video boards... That brings to mind the set of VCB02 boards-cables-and-keyboards which I've got "stranded" in London after a failed attempt to get them to Rochester, NY, from mid-Scotland "on the cheap." I'd love to hear from anybody who a) can get them from London to Rochester (or even just to the USA) cheap or free, or b) is IN or NEAR London and has an interest in them and something to trade which is already IN the USA... I know this is a long shot, but hey, I had to make a grand, if weird, entrance... Chris Chiesa cchi(a)lle.rochester.edu

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Found a Apple IIGS UPgrade

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-03-06 02:26:00 EST, you write: << In a message dated 3/6/98 1:00:49 AM Central Standard Time, dastar(a)wco.com writes: << I believe there was an upgrade kit that came out a short while after the //gs was introduced that allowed one to upgrade their //e to a //gs. >> >> yes, and the upgrade cost $500. i have a magazine article about it. david

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8080A disassemblers (MSDOS based)

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>> Well I don't know of a dos based 8080 disassembler but... There are >> several dos based programs that can emulate a 8080/z80 and run a any of >> the existing 8080 disassemblers. I have found several 8080A disassemblers. They are relatively easy to find using search engines such as AltaVista - but I will be happy to forward URLs to anyone who has trouble. THere are several sites with loads of disassemblers and assemblers for all platforms. Cheers A

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Mac 512k complete set FS/Trade

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

In addition to the previous Apple/mac items message, I also have the following fine machine for sale or trade: --MAC 512k system which includes cpu/monitor unit with original 400k internal floppy, enhanced keyboard, mouse, printer, manuals, software and applicable cables. The unit was owned by a friend of mine since new and only needs a repair or replace of the floppy drive as it's getting old and sometimes doesn't read the disk, does other times. Great condition otherwise. Entire set $75.00 plus shipping or will consider trades (as mentioned in previous) or other PC compatible parts. I'll also include text on upgrading RAM to 1mb using common DRAMs piggybacked. Contact me if interested by direct reply... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Apple Items FS

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

To update everyone, the Vector 3 has a new home and is on it's way there. I have the following Apple components for sale but will trade as well. You have to pay shipping though either way. * Apple ImageWriter II color dot matrix printer with good color ribbon and mini-din to 25 pin sub-d male adapter cable. The printer itself has a female mini-din connector. $40.00 plus shipping * Apple 5.25" external floppy drive set. Two drives that chain together, marked Drive 1 and Drive 2. Excellent condition. $25.00 plus shipping * SIMMS - 30 pin 1 mb non parity for Apple and Macs that utilize 30 pin SIMMs, not SIPPs or DRAMs. I have 8 of these. Seimens type with 5 large chips and two small chips. $8.00 for the set or even swap for 8 PC compatible 1mb 30 pin type. Items I might trade for: -CDROM drives, internal or external. IDE, SCSI or proprietary. Proprietary drives MUST include applicable adapter card. All should have any available manuals and software if possible. -Sound cards. MCA, ISA, VLB, etc. 8 bit or 16. Again, it would be best to have any available software or manuals if possible. -SIMM memory - 30 or 72 pin parity or non-parity, but MUST be useful in PC's and compatibles. I have no use for the Apple/mac types (hence the sale of the above). -486 motherboards, with processor. EMAIL directly to me for more info... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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I'm back! Now, who...?

by kyrrin＠jps.net

OK, I'm back from JPS Internet. Neat service! Now... based on the latest digest I got, it appears that someone (I'm not clear just who it is) has some MicroVAX II GPX video boards, cable, and mouse available for trade. Please get in touch with me if these are still available. The cable alone is worth the effort for me to obtain. Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Sorcerer

by dcoward＠pressstart.com

Sam Ismail said: >It seems that a lot of you blokes down under have Sorcerers. Were they >marketed a lot more "down there" than they were in the US? They are not >very common over here. I remember the first time I saw a Sorcerer. It was August or September 1979. I was just out of the Navy, working at TODD shipyards in Seattle. I was downtown and there in the front window of a computer store was a Sorcerer run a hi-res demo of liquid flowing out of a bottle. Very impressive, I wanted one. But I couldn't afford the $700-$800 I seem to remember it costing (Divorce). Well, today I have three. Two of them have their own cardboard briefcases. But I sure would like to find a copy of that demo. ========================================= Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com Senior Software Engineer Press Start Inc. Sunnyvale,CA Curator Museum of Personal Computing Machinery http://www.best.com/~dcoward/museum =========================================

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Info needed on Microbee, System 80, Pencil II, TI 99/4

by scott＠isd.canberra.edu.au

I need some information on some old micros I have in my collection. They are all Australian models apart from the TI, although some of them made it overseas. Pencil II --------- The sticker on the base says this machine was made by Soundic Electronics, although I believe it may have been distributed by Hanimex. I need information on the power supply. I have been told it's 9.9V DC 1A and 17.7V DC 500mA, but I need the pinouts for the 3-pin DIN socket the supply is meant to connect to. Microbee -------- I believe the DIN socket at the rear right-hand corner is a combined power supply, cassette in/out and composite video out socket. Can anyone tell me the pinouts? System 80 --------- Originally this had an RF modulator, but the one I have has been very heavily hacked. Can someone give me the pinouts for the video DIN socket? TI 99/4 ------- Note that this is the 99/4, *not* the 99/4a. Can someone tell me the power supply requirements and pinouts? It is *not* the same as the 99/4a. I *think* it may need +5, -5 and +12, but I'm not sure. Thanks in advance, | Scott McLauchlan |"Sometimes the need to mess with their heads | | Client Services Division | outweighs the millstone of humiliation." | | University of Canberra |___________Fox_Mulder_"The_X-Files:_Squeeze"_| | scott(a)cts.canberra.edu.au | http://www.canberra.edu.au/~scott/home.html |

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<also wave their hands. And finally, I'm looking for a PC based 8080A <disassembler. My plan is to pull the chips and airmail them to a kind <volunteer. Actually - although I don't have a lot to spend - I will be m <happy to pay for the preservation (restoration?) of these data. I think <important. Well I don't know of a dos based 8080 disassembler but... There are several dos based programs that can emulate a 8080/z80 and run a any of the existing 8080 disassemblers. I prefer MYZ80 and resource. 1k of 8080 code is not bad. What's tough is not knowing what a given port may do. Though guessing is possible. <restoring properly. I would note that the cosmetics are near flawless; <this bodes well for the electronics inside, no? Generally yes. Allison

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>Silly question of mine: what is the machine supposed to boot >from? Oh, my terminology is wrong, I guess. I've not used a front-panel machine. I guess you'd call these roms the machine's OS? Of sorts. Well... what ARE they, then? >In the first stages of bit rot, single bits go "flaky" and will not >read reliably. So the first thing to do is read the 1702A's multiple >times and see if any are going bad in this way. Of course, be sure >to save the results of each read pass... Thanks for that suggestion. Wilco. Cheers A

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>Are there any markings on the stickers covering the 1702A windows? Only numbers identifying their position. >What do you know of the history of the machine? Was it used for data >acquisition? Was it used for industrial control? Who was the previous >owner? What might they have used it for? This from the gent I bought it from.. this is ALL i know. "Hmmm.... The DL8a came in a job lot at an auction... It came with a CRDS PDP11/23 clone, A gutted Universe, a 19" monitor, several hundred kilos of RT-11 and Unix manuals, several hundred 8" disks, and some other bits and pieces.." >The EPROM's might hold bootstrap code, they might hold software that >drive some sort of device that you don't have, they might contain >a monitor, it's hard to tell. A disassembly will make that easy(ish) to determine, surely! >Have you checked out the power supply yet? This is definitely the >first priority. No, I've not checked it - having no equipment. I don't intend to supply power to it at all until I get those EPROMS copied. So I'm thinking it's actually a lower priority. I'll check the power while the eproms are away being saved. A

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Strange PCjr found

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

yes, i've seen one of those funky pcjr models too. i wish i had bought it just for the curiosity factor. i dont remember what brand the expansion unit was though. my particular pcjr has another drive in an external case with its own power supply and a cable going to the unit like an apple ][ In a message dated 98-03-05 18:37:23 EST, you write: << I was in a thrift store during lunch and saw a PCjr which had a second box attached to the top which contained a second floppy drive. This almost doubled the height of the system and there was a larger side car type box on the side as well. Any ideas as to what this may have been? Was it just for adding a second floppy maybe? I'm thinking about going back by and picking it up. They also had a VIC-20 with the VIC version of the floppy drive which I think I grab as I don't have one of those. >>

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486 upgrade boards

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Last I heard, Evergreen was still selling 386-486 upgrade chips, which are really quick. US$20 each, IIRC manney(a)lrbcg.com "Chicken Little was right!"

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Vacation Finds...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

Have been on vacation since Friday and still have a couple days to go... From the thrift store outlook in the area things are improving again (I guess people are starting their pre-spring cleaning) Stuff I got: - Timex/Sinclair 16k RAM unit with a few cassette programs for it. - Given to me, a COMPLETE IBM PC (read model 5150, the first IBM PC I think... (he had run this one until very recently when he got a new multi-media system...) The computer has dual floppy drives, a cassette port and everything! Computer, Monitor, Printer, (all IBM) IBM DOS and other disks and all manuals! (Wordstar, Microplan, BASIC, etc. etc.) Haven't powered this one up but the previous owner says drive A has problems, but once running he could work off of B. (if anyone is interested in it an willing to pick it up, I will pass it along, otherwise it will go with me to VFC 2.0 (Hey, Sam, wanna raffle off a COMPLETE GENUINE IBM PC?) What I passed up on... Mac Plus Some Atari Stuff (800, 520ST, ST floppy drive) Commodore 64 stuff (never a shortage there...) PET 8032, 4040 dual drive. I'm just waiting for the weather to improve one weekend, then the Flea Market I like will be going again... Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our Commodore 64 BBS (Silicon Realms 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Old computer still accessible on internet?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> > Hey, does anyone have a list of classic systems that people have conn <> > to the internet? I know I've heard you guys several times talking abo <> > doing it. Well? < <RCS/RI has a VAX-11/750 on the net from time to time. I'm trying to figure out how to do that with a MV-II or vs2000. Allison

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Sol-20 revisited

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Thanks Jim. Have you replaced the video ram in the Sol-20 before? < Also, do you know if parts are still available or will I have to < cannibalize from a similar vintage pieces part? < < Marty If it's a bad video ram swap it with the one next to it, if the pattern changes the ram is fried (I have tons of them). If the pattern doesn't change is likely a bad 74ls157 or 8097(74ls367). the test for a bad '157 or 8097 is to swap it with another on the board and see if the symptom changes. The fact that you've seen different patterns says the video rom is ok. Try popping out and reinstalling all the socketed parts and boards. You may have a crusty connection. Allison

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Sol-20 revisited

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Thanks to all for the hints, help and tips on the problem of getting this Sol-20 running. I fired this up last night but the screen didn't appear as I remember it last time> I must be losing my memory. All testing was done with the Sol-20 barebone, no S-100 add-on cards installed. The screen appears as such: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The prompt > is at the beginning of the second line, and this pattern is repeated in all 16 rows, save the second where the prompt appears. The upper case light and local light are on, the shift lock light is off. The keyboard doesn't respond except for the - key which is to the left of * on the numeric keypad section on the right. Next, I disconnected the keyboard cable (after powering down for a minute or so) and get the exact same result as above, less the upper case and local lights on of course. Finally (after powering off) I removed the SOLOS prom board and of course don't get the prompt > but get a new video display repeated from top to bottom of an equal sign '=' followed by a lightning bolt, this pattern repeats = then lightning bolt (I cannot reproduce the symbol) endlessly from top to bottom. I also tried a different RG62 video cable in all tests and get the same results. Thanks again for your help- Marty Mintzell email:marty@itgonline.com

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Datanumerics DL8A is here! Have a peek @ ...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>> Eproms or PROMS? They're marked C1702A > >The first commercial EPROM's. 256 * 8. Very likely suffering >from some form of bit rot... If >they don't have opaque stickers over the quartz windows. put stickers on *right >now*! OK, they already had stickers on them. I guess I should get these copied. >Looking at the picture, there are 8 EPROM sockets with only 4 of them >filled. Right? And what's the part number on the 40-pin DIP near >where the power harness is attached? It looks a bit incongruous compared >to the other ceramic packages on the board. Are those 10-turn >trimpots to the left of that 40-pin DIP? Yes, 8 sockets... 4 filled. The 40 pin DIP at the front is AY-5-1013 / 7502 What's a trimpot?!! I can guess. They're marked Helitrim Cw12 and have a tiny screw at the top. >Where do the three ribbon cables from the CPU board going to? I assume at >least one goes to the front panel - I'd guess the middle one. The cables go to, from left to right... 1) a male 25 pin connector on the back of the chassis 2) to a board mounted behind the control panel - full of interesting small white chips labeled Beckman 3) This is a bit tricky; a bit of this one goes to the control panel, and another bit of it to a connector on the back (25 pin) with a sticker "TTY" beneath it. 4) a female 25 pin connector just above the male one Datanumerics DL8A can be seen at http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/weird/datanumerics.html Cheers A

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Sol-20 revisited

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Thanks Jim. Have you replaced the video ram in the Sol-20 before? Also, do you know if parts are still available or will I have to cannibalize from a similar vintage pieces part? Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sol-20 revisited Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/5/98 11:41 AM On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Marty wrote: > Thanks to all for the hints, help and tips on the problem of getting > this Sol-20 running. I fired this up last night but the screen didn't > appear as I remember it last time> I must be losing my memory. > All testing was done with the Sol-20 barebone, no S-100 add-on cards > installed. > > The screen appears as such: > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > >$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The '$'s indicate a single bit error in the video RAM. Bit 3 is stuck. (wedged, dead, etc...) -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar05.114131.1767.30343; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:41:32 -0500 Received: from host (server(a)lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA22176; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA38986 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:20 -0800 Received: from agora.rdrop.com (0(a)agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29419 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:20 -0800 Received: from agora.rdrop.com (1566(a)agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01383 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <Pine.BSF.3.95.980305081417.730B-100000(a)agora.rdrop.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:17:19 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: James Willing <jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Sol-20 revisited In-Reply-To: <1998Mar05.091805.1767.86032(a)smtp.itgonline.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Demography

by Marty＠itgonline.com

William, I'd be interested in the Sphere, SWTPC gear, etc you don't want. Thanks- Marty Mintzell email: marty(a)itgonline.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Demography Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/5/98 12:38 PM Well, lets see. I am 28 or so, living now in Carmel, NY (about fifty miles north of NYC), and like old things in general. Mostly. I am employed by one of the ISPs (originally the first ISP - the NSF) as an engineer. As you can probably tell by now, I tend to pick up the scraps of the network. I originally collected old radios. I had a small collection of consumer sets, some working, but dropped the hobby when two others came into my life - computers and old industrial/military electronics. The latter is simply from my consumer radio collecting days. The computers, however, probably started with the Apple II, like so many other kids in grade school. The first computer I ran into is my old DEC PDP-8/S, purchased "thru" a hamfest back in 1986. I was eyeing someone's PDP-11 boards (I was already a hamfest regular), and a man approached me with an offer I could not refuse - for $5, I could have a real, six-foot tall computer. I still have the machine. After that, I started getting others - mostly PeeCee and small mini machines. Sometimes they were pulled from dumpsters, other times they were purchased for a song. Right now, the collection consists of a PDP-8/S, PDP-8/E, PDP-11/23, PDP-11/34, Interdata 14, IBM S/1, IBM 5100, Sun 3/50, 3/60, 3/280 and 4/280, SPARCstation 370, SGI Iris 2500T, IBM RS/6000/T3B, and HP 2100A. Some machines work, some need work. There are parts of many others, but I am not counting those. I also have a bunch of ancient Sphere/SWTPC/Exorsisor stuff that I need to get rid of (I have no interest in it). Most of it will migrate to RCS/RI (so Allison can play with it). In addition to old computers, I collect old Naval radios and radar sets from the 1930s and 40s, as well as vaccuum tubes. At this point, I do not know which collection takes up more mass, as some of the shipboard radio transmitters are six foot monsters as well. Look at some of the old serials from the 1950s - they tend to show up as props in monster labs. And I do not play bassoon. I also voluteer time as part of the restoration crew on Battleship Massachusetts - a place with _real_ computers. Sorry guys, but engineering and craftsmanshipwise (is that a word?), the mechanical fire control computers are far more impressive than any of the digital stuff. William Donzelli william(a)ans.net ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar05.123803.1767.30360; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:38:04 -0500 Received: from host (server(a)lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA35718; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:27:16 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39600 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:25:40 -0800 Received: from il1.nyp.ans.net (il1.nyp.ans.net [147.225.190.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA12370 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:25:25 -0800 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net id AA03664 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:25:24 -0500 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980305115925.468J-100000(a)titan.purch.ans.net> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:25:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Demography In-Reply-To: <34FED726.836C598(a)hf.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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486 upgrade boards

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Last I heard, Evergreen was still selling 386-486 upgrade chips, which are really quick. US$20 each, IIRC manney(a)lrbcg.com "Chicken Little was right!" > > Does anyone have any upgrade board for PCs? I said 486, but I mean > > any such thing. This is part of a desire to find a way to salvage some > > systems. Does anyone have any MCA upgrade boards? There are some PS/2 > > 286 towers, which I would take if I could upgrade them to something > > 32-bit > > For various reasons, mostly related to the '100% documented PC', I have a > little kludge-board in an original AT motherboard in this PC. It's called > (IIRC) a 'Make-It 486', and contains a TI 486-a-like, the floating point > copro, and a couple of PLD chips. > > I've also got a similar 386 board that I found at a radio rally. It's > labelled 'Hyper386-SX 50/60/AT'. It contains an Intel 80386SX-16 + 3 > PAL-like things. From the name, I'd assume it would work in a PS/2 model > 50 or model 60. > > I've no idea where you'd find one, but they certainly exist. > > -tony

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Demography

by prp＠hf.intel.com

> > > sing and play Piano and Bassoon; I have recently taken up photography. > > Eh, who'd have figured.. another bassoon player. Who is it? I missed some > important attributions. > and another bassoon player, long ago. I'm 43, started playing with computers before high school. That was less common then, though maybe not for the folks on this list. My dad had a "portable" Teletype model 33 (I have it now) with an acoustic coupler modem. He had accounts on GE timesharing (BASIC) and the nearby University of Wisconsin Burroughs B5500 (I used WIPL, a little like FOCAL.) I got a BS in EE and MS in Computer Science at UW, where I ran PDP-11's etc. in the CS lab. Have mostly worked at Intel in Portland since then. No time for more bio now, but there is some more info on how I started collecting on my web site.

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Sun 2/120 (clone) available in the UK

by pjoules＠coleg-powys.ac.uk

>I have a Sun 2/120 (actually a Computervision manufactured clone) that I >don't have room for. Condition is unknown, but it does have keyboard, >mouse, monitor and a few spare multibus boards Do you still have it? Is it free :-) If yes to the above would collection be possible at the weekend if I could arrange it? Regards Pete

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Demography

by jthiemann＠castleton.com

While we're at it (the buisness of veering grossly off-charter), who else here collects electronic music equipment of about the same vintage as the computers discussed here? I have a Korg Poly-800, Yamaha DX-7II, 2 FB-01's, CS-01, a Sequential SixTrack, 360 Systems MidiBass, and a homebrew MIDI interface to hook some of this to my Amiga. I have grandiose plans (ok, ok, not _so_ grandiose, but everything is relative these days...) to rip the 6581 out of my C64 (or better yet, find an old otherwise nonfunctional C64 and rip the 6581 out of there) and hook it up to a 68HC11 SBC I designed a few years back (the company I used to work for is still using and occasionally producing these) and controlling it (the 6581, that is) via MIDI as a cheap-o (and physically small) analog synth. (Cause let's face it, that's what the 6581 is...) BTW Any of you UK guys have collections of the old E&MM magazine? I'm missing 1 or 2 issues in the 84 (83?) season... -------------------------------------------- Joachim Thiemann DSP Coder, Castleton Network Systems I doubt therefore I might be. > -----Original Message----- > From: R. Stricklin (kjaeros) [SMTP:red@bears.org] > Sent: March 4, 1998 20:09 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: Demography > > > > > sing and play Piano and Bassoon; I have recently taken up > photography. > > Eh, who'd have figured.. another bassoon player. Who is it? I missed > some > important attributions. > > ok > r.

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DEC GPX II Q-Bus boards

by jthiemann＠castleton.com

I think I have that card set (but not the roms - but I do have a spare ka630 board) with full instructions. I can dig up specifics over the weekend, when I'm back in Montreal. My uVaxII does have the ability to act as an X client - I tried it, I have the 3 Tk50 Ultrix distribution set (but who wants that if you can have NetBSD?) I think it can drive the GPX cards too, but have never seen it do so myself - I don't have a monitor to hook up to it. If anyone wants the cards (the GPX and the spare ka630), they're up for grabs - either for sale or trade since I'm not doing much with the VAX (I like my Sparc better) -------------------------------------------- Joachim Thiemann DSP Coder, Castleton Network Systems I doubt therefore I might be. > -----Original Message----- > From: allisonp(a)world.std.com [SMTP:allisonp@world.std.com] > Sent: March 4, 1998 22:06 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: DEC GPX II Q-Bus boards > > <I have a three board set of Q-bus cards plus the boot ROM for a uVAX > II, > <dated from 1987, which supposedly turns a VAX server into a > workstation f > <DECWindows. I think it was called the GPX II kit? Anyway, the > boards wo > <and I have the keyboard, dove bar mouse and cable, but no monitor. I > <believe this board set could drive several types of workstation > monitors > <and was programmed for monitor type thru some of the wires in the > kbd/mou > > I have no clue on the rom as the microvax-II already could run > decwindows. > DECwindows is a device and services under VMS. I would not mess with > that > rom unless you fully identfy it and its use. > > The monitors conformed to the boards not the other way round the cable > carried keyboard data mouse and RGB video for the monitor. > > monitors were vr260, 290, 320. > > <too? Any specs on it? Will it work in a VAX 3600? > > Yes. > > <Also, what versions of VMS support the GPX board? Is it still > current (V > <I have a VMS 5.5 set of tapes that came with the uVAX, from the old > days > <when the VMS license stayed with the CPU and DEC didn't hit you up > for > <license transfers. > > Most all from v4.2 and later. V5.5 would work well. FYI there is a > free > license available for hobby use to US decus members. > > > Allison

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Picked up another truckload! Take a look?

by archive＠navix.net

Greets: Yep, this last weekend I picked up another truckload of goodies. Mainly Apple stuff but there is some TI, Mac, IBM, etc., stuff in there. The list follows here. Please let me know if you want any of this! Amazing how, until two weeks ago, I had very little Apple stuff, and now I have more than I can handle!! Also, for all of you who responded the last time I made a similar post, thanks for doing so! Your help on identifying many of the items was great. And for all of you who have requested stuff, I apologize in getting back to you in such a deliquent manner.... the e-mails are on file, I've just been so busy lately! I will get back to you and get this stuff out to you, that's a promise!! Please take a look at the URL in my signature at the very bottom... there's the complete inventory of what I have on-line, and also pages for what I am looking for. Other pages I have there are some interesting links, an Adventure International page (the classic game company-- Scott Adams), my autographed memorabilia page, classic computer photo gallery, downloads, and this 'what's new' list, and some other stuff you may like to browse. Anyway, here is the recent list of what I just got. Let me know if you can take some off of my hands or have some info. on it, ok? Thanks for your time, CORD -------------------------THE LIST----------------------------------------------------- Computers/CPU's ----------------------- * Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the silver case. Are these more rare than the tan cases? Model # PHC004a Ser # 8184424. *Apple //e computer. This has 2 drives attached internally as well. This computer also has keys with white lettering on them. I have others that are black lettered (???). Model # A252064. The twod rives are Disk ][. Drive Model # are A2M0003. Seriel # on the drives are: 416072 & 788419. Computer ser. # is 020130. Oh, computer also has a printer cable coming out the back. * Apple //e computer. This one has a volumn adjuster and a large ear-phone jack added into the case. Also this model has a the light to the left of the open-Apple button. Black lettering on the keyboard. Has been stripped of all the cards out the back, although looking in, it has some stuff in there yet. Model # A2S2064 * Apple //e computer. Has been stripped of just about everything internally. Need to open it up to see what exactly is there still! Monitors ------------ * Apple monitor: Model #A2M2010 - green phosphor with internal tilting screen. * Macintosh 12" Monochrome Display. Family #: M1050. Has a note that says, "blury screen." Haven't tested. * Apple Monitor ///. Model #: A3M0039 - made in June 1983. * Disk Drives/Other Storage --------------------------------- * Apple 3.5" disk drive... is this for Mac only or //e, etc also? Model #m0130. * 2 Apple Disk // drives... More info found above in the CPU section -- attached to a machine. * IBM 4869 5.25" disk drive. I have 3 of these. They have big, heavy duty cables attached which go to the machine. Does anyone have more information on these? Printers ---------- *Printer Pro Parallel Printer Interface for the Apple //+, //e, and //GS computers. With original box and instructions, cable and all original packaging. * Two Apple printers that weigh a ton!! Tan cases, 80 column printers (?) Model #: A9M0303. * Apple // Imagewriter // printer. * Apple wide-carriage printer (160 column?) Model # A9M0305 - no power cable. Books/Manuals --------------------- * Ernie's Quiz by Apple & Children's Television Workshop. Manual * Level II BASIC Reference manual for the TRS-80 - 2nd Edition. * Apple HyperCard User's Guide. * Apple // 80-Column Text Card Manual. * Apple // AppleMouse User's Manual * Ashton-Tate Developer Registry, 2nd Edition. Ashton-Tate made Dbase /// Plus. 540 pages. 1988 * Tank Tactics Teacher's Guide for Program Nos. 1-7 -- for Apple and TRS-80, TRS-80 CoCo. With plastic * PCA/XT 88 Personal Computer User's Guide. 143 pages. No clue who published this, but a ton of good info. * Wing Commander ??: Vengeance of the Kilrathi manual. By Reveal Computer Products. 23 pages. * Learning BASIC Programming in 14 days on Your Commodore 64 by Gil M. Schecter (SAMS). 192 pages. * Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer Manual User's Guide #26-2960. 200 pages (?) * Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer Guide to Printing in Colour. #26-2963. 40 pages(?). * Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer - Printer Driver User's Guide. 20 pages(?) * Write Now v. 2.2 for the Macintosh manual. 235 pages. * HyperTalk Beginner's Guide: An Introducting to Scripting. For Mac. 150 Pages. * Macintosh manual. (2 copies... one has water-damage). 160 pages. * Atari Games & Rectreations. Programming book for the Atari 400 and 800. reston Publishing Company.338 pages * The Epson Connection: Macintosh by Rick Dayton. 260 pages. Use of Epson printers with the Mac. * Apple // Monitor // User's Manual.12 pages. (2 copies) * Tandy Personal DeskMate 2 manual... for the 1000 series. 463 pages. * Apple // Apple 5.25 Drive Owner's Guide. 18 pages... for //,//+,//e,//c,//GS computers. * Apple // Extended 80-Column Text Card Supplement - for //e only. 60 pages. * Apple // 80-Column Text Card Manual for //e only. 75 pages. (2 copies) * About You Enhanced Apple //e: User's Guide. 14 pages. * BITFax manual: A Communications Program for Send Fax Modems. By Bit Software, Inc of Multipas, CA. 91 pgs. * Apple direct magazine. Vol. 3 No. 2 Nov. 1990. 32 pages. * Apple schematics sheet by Data Technology. The card this is for can be found at the bottom of the misc section * Apple // Technical Notes - May 1988 written by Scott Knaster of Apple Computer. 200+ pages, Stapes and 3-ring punched. Miscellaneous ------------------- *Archer joystick for a PC. It has a fairly 'tall' stick on it, with two buttons on the front. Also has trim settings, auto fire option, A/b selectors for both directions, and four suction cups on the bottom. Has both 15 and 9 pin plugs. *Joystick.... I'd like some information on this one. It is a tan box about 5 inches by 3 inches. The joystick itself is just 2 inches or so tall. Has trim settings also. Two buttons, which look like classic self-destruct buttons or something. Is was made by TG Products of Plano, TX. To connect it to a computer, it has a long blue ribbon cable (inch wide?) with 15 pins on the end. The pins are just out there all by themselves! Is this for an Apple computer? *MCP AP-16 Memory Module: I would like some info on this. This is some type of expansion card, etc. It is about 8 inches long and 3 inches wide. It contains 18 chips, 10 of which say AM9016EPC & 8248FMP. The other chips are labeled SP225, SP229, P218, SP245-b, SP220, and SP238. The card also has a red switch on it. Really no other information... oh, it also has 4 led lights. Please let me know something about this! *Expansion card of some sort for the Apple //e. This is about 3"x2" as is (c) 1988 by Applied Engineering. It says ][e 64k on the side by the 'plug-in', and on the other side is says KEYBOARD. Please let me know how this thing is used! * 1.5 foot cable. Adapter of some sort. Looks like a PC joystick adapter. 15 pin male to 9 pin female. * Joystick -- called Laser Joystick. It is small has has 2 buttons on the side. I know of the Laser computer series, etc. (I have a Laser 300, some kids computers, and want a Laser 50!) by V-tech... didn't realise they made joysticks. Has a 9 pin connector on it. Does anyone know what computer this was for, or when it was made? * Some type of expansion card... presumably for the Apple. Has 19 various chips on it. Made by Data Technology Corp. Would love some more tips on what this might be. Software ----------- *Apple Presents the //e: An Introduction - and a backup copy which has been copied. *Apple DOS 3.3 DemoDisk * Courseware Sampler by Random House: Tutorial Comprehension. Side A & B - Apple * Courseware Sampler by Random House: Tutorial Comprehension. Side C & D - Apple * Apple //e and //c Diagnostic Disk * Using Context Clues, Program #1. for the Apple //. By Imperial International Learning Corp. * Sequencing Events, Program #4 for the Apple //. By Imperial International Learning Corp. * The O'Brien Vocabulary Placement Test by Activity Records for the Apple // - 48k. * Blank double sided disk * Knowledge Master disks. Used in schools for a national competition. Geez, I used to use these in school! For the Apple and I got 6 copies. * Mastertype's Writer for the Apple //e and //c. By Scarborough Systems, Inc. * Teacher's Software Library by the Duncan Institute of New Port Richey, FL. (Apple?) * Scholastic PFS: Write for the Apple //c & //e. By Software Publishing Corp. * Math Shop for Apple //+, //e, //c. By Scholastic. * Telewrite-80 vers. 1.0 Rev. B -- not original (copy).... for what computer I don't know? * IBM Assistant Home Solutions by IBM. * Visicalc in original box by VisiCorp Personal Software. Has both original disks and two backups. Original Manual, notebook for all, etc. * * 3.5" disks for the Mac. Hyperdrive boot disk, HyperStudio, Stupid Mac Tricks by Bob LeVitus, 3 disk by EduComp. -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. 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Info needed on Microbee, System 80, Pencil II, TI 99/4

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>Microbee >-------- >I believe the DIN socket at the rear right-hand corner is a combined power >supply, cassette in/out and composite video out socket. Can anyone tell me >the pinouts? I have one of these, but I'm afraid I can't help - the version you speak of should be the Microbee 64 with the Computer-in-a-book combined disk/drive power supply etc. I only have details for the 16k version. Nevertheless I'll try digging them up and see if they help, but hopefully someone else will be able to tell you more. The manuals I have lack details. >System 80 >--------- >Originally this had an RF modulator, but the one I have has been very >heavily hacked. Can someone give me the pinouts for the video DIN socket? I can do this. :) Going on the diagram I have here, we have: 3 ---- ---- 1 / \ / | \ / | \ 5 | 4 2 where 1 is +5v, 4 is video output, and 5 is ground. I have most (if not all) of the manuals for the System 80, including some doubles here. Adam.

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