- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

> >> The problem is that I can't tell how to attach another ribbon to the >> LCD, and the circuit board end is surface mount soldered. Ideas? I suppose that you only need to find the cable that's broken and just jump that one, rather than replacing the whole lot. You may even be able to find the break, scratch off whatever coating is around the metal conductor, and solder across the break (Ok, so it never worked with Sinclair keyboard ribbons, but it might be possible here :) cheers Jules

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Tektronix XD88 Unix box - help/info needed

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

Hi all, I was given a Tektronix XD88/10 machine a few years ago that has sadly been sitting around gathering dust in the hope that I'd be able to find sufficient info/parts to fix it at some point - maybe someone on this list can help... When I got the machine I just had the main unit, and (amazingly, seeing how only a few of these seem to ever have been built) got hold of a keyboard for it. I haven't got the original monitor, but a Sun 16" display seems to work well enough. The disk was on its way out when I got hold of the machine, and from what I remember wouldn't even boot to single user mode last time I tried it. It's a 300MB Imprimis (Seagate) SCSI-1, so finding an exact or similar replacement shouldn't be too much trouble. The problem is the OS software - I don't have the tapes, and Tektronix stopped supporting the XD88's a few years ago (I heard from one guy in Australia who got an XD88 from a sale without OS, and Tektronix Aus. gave him the tapes for free which was rather nice - they took the line that they should be part of the machine anyway!) Second problem is mouse - the keyboard has a 9-pin *female* port on it for a mouse - anyone know pin-outs, what protocol was needed etc? Other than those two minor details, it works fine :) When I first got it it did boot to some sort of semi-working state; I seem to remember that the ethernet was working on it (I never tried the tape drive, I have a spare in case the one in it is broken though) Thanks for any help though, about time I got this thing going again!!! (Could still be a useful machine actually, it's got 16MB of main memory on it and 2MB for graphics memory) cheers, Jules

28 years, 1 month

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Franklin ACE 500

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Hi, I just acquired a Franklin ACE 500, unfortunately it came without the power supply. Does anyone have info on the power connector and requirements. Thanks Francois ------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the Sanctuary at: http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon

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Your www site

by dwollmann＠ibmhelp.com

>Date: 25 Mar 98 20:46:29 -0800 >Subject: Re: Your www site >From: "Steve Wozniak" <steve(a)woz.org> >To: "David Wollmann" <dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com> >X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 > >Dear Woz, > >Several on the Classic Computers mailing list have been asking about >you. >Someone listed your web site (http://www.woz.org/) and it looks to be >off >line. > >Wanna say hello to the list and tell them what you're up to these >days? The >scuttlebutt has it that you're teaching, we'd love to hear about it. > >Thanks > >-- >David Wollmann | >dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com | Support for legacy IBM products. >DST ibmhelp.com Technical Support | Data, document and file conversion >for IBM >http://www.ibmhelp.com/ | legacy file and media formats. > > > >That is the correct web site. Or http://woz.org or http://woz.com or >http://www.woz.com. Even a few more will work. Just type "woz" into >Netscape or Internet Explorer and they try adding "www" ond ".com". > >Steve >_________________________________ >Here's to the crazy ones. >The misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers. >The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things >differently. >They're not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status >quo. >You can quote them. Disagree with them. Glorify or vilify them. >About the only thing you can't do is ignore them, because they change >things. >They push the human race forward. >And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. >Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the >world? >Are the ones who do. >_________________________________ > Steve Wozniak > 16400 Blackberry Hill Road > Los Gatos CA 95032 USA > 408.888.8889 408.354.8999 FAX >_________________________________ > www.woz.org steve(a)woz.org >_________________________________ >PGP Footprint 1D70 FF77 3046 B814 7420 4CB4 7DE4 535F 148C 6F43 > > > > -- David Wollmann | dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com | Support for legacy IBM products. DST ibmhelp.com Technical Support | Data, document and file conversion for IBM http://www.ibmhelp.com/ | legacy file and media formats.

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Early computer serial numbers??

by archive＠navix.net

Greets: Here's a question for you all: how does early serial numbers on classic machines effect their relative value to collectors. Here's an instance: I recently acquired five (5) old TRS-80 Model III computers. They are numbered in the following way: 0000365 0000474 0000475 0000477 0000510 Yeh, and two, almost three are numbered in succession... how often does that happen. Plus, those particular machines came from two different states, and the successive machines were also split up by 900 miles!! How often does that happen? Anyway, for a TRS-80 collector, or classic computer collectors in general... how does these early numbers effect their value to potential collectors of these machines. I've heard of someone (I think) that had a very early numbered CoCo (less than 10?), but haven't heard much else. Any more of you have stories like this that I mentioned above? Thanks, CORD COSLOR -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

28 years, 1 month

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S/36 info

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

What size disks does the IBM S/36 use and is this the same machine you refer to as a "System 36"?? I may have a whole batch of books and disks coming to me in the very near future and am curious if they may be of any value to anyone out in "pooter land". -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ # 1714857 * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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What ever happened to Woz?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Tried it with IE4. Tried it with Netscape 4.04. Tried it with Mosaic 2.11... any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Max Eskin <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 5:34 AM Subject: Re: What ever happened to Woz? > > > > > > > >Lynx worked fine too. Suggestive? >>>I tried that before. I get the following error: >>>The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy. >>> >>>Remote server closed connection. >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >>- >> >> >>I can't get in with MSIE, but Netscape worked. Have you tried to >Netscape? >> >> -- Kirk >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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What ever happened to Woz?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Ok... there's this technicial genius, he makes what very well may be the two key foundations necessary for IBM to make a PC for Compaq to clone it, for Unix to serve it, to make the Internet to share it... BUT WHAT THE ^*%@ HAPPENED TO HIM? I've got a faint notation that he got involved in Be, what ever that is. It seems like an OS, I remember hearing that it was getting ported to Intel platforms... what happend to him? Why isn't he like... at Apple, where he belongs doing innovation? Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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CLASSICCMP digest 364

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Subject: Re: SID chips Message-ID: <m0yHXT4-000Iy8C@p850ug1> Content-Type: text > > Hi! > > I have a question re. the Commodore 64c - what was the number of the SID > chip? I assuem that the C64c had one, but the most likely chip was > numbered 8580R5, whereas I was expecting a 6581 or 6582. The 64c was a cost-reduced version of the 64 where many chips were integrated into larger ones, they also re-vamped the SID chip which takes a different voltage then the original SID and has 'fixes' whaich makes some earlier programs sound worse (there was a 'click' you get when adjusting the volume control, and it was used for digitized sounds, the new sid fixed this click, now no digitized sounds in some progs. I dunno the 64c SID number but I think that (8580) may be it... :/ I think the 6582 was in the 128 or 128D... -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (300-2400bd) (209) 754-1363 Visit my Commodore 8-Bit web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/commodore.html -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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CLASSICCMP digest 363

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

From: John Rollins <rexstout(a)ptld.uswest.net> Subject: Mac II problem >Here's the message I just sent to ClassicMacs mailing list, I'm too lazy to >type it all again ;-) ============================= >Just picked up a Mac II 5/80/two 800k FD's for $15(including a datatronics >keyboard and an Apple mouse), with an ethernet card that everyone seemedd >to think was a second video card... Good price. Though I myself would never have THAT much desk space available... [snip]! > Finally the normal >System Folder icon is back and it boots again. I launch the hacked HD SC >Setup and it sees a disk at SCSI ID 6(I haven't changed that yet, I need to >take the HD out and find the info on it), but it can't reformat. It says it >can't prepare the disk for initialization, no particular reason is given... >Current config right now is 5/80 with the two 800k drives, and the Radius >Pivot interface. Any ideas? I'm stumped. Most likely the hard drive is a non-Apple drive (i.e. a Quantum or whatever without the special Apple ROM). Apple rigged it's drive setups to only format identifiable Apple HDs. If this is the case there are two options: 1. Locate a 3rd party drive utility like FWB HD Toolkit which works with most SCSI drives, there are a couple on the net but no gaurantees... 2. Check web for the sites that have the patches to the HD Setup progs. to format a non-apple drive anyway. (they are out there, and some are harder than others to do.) I went this route on my external drive, it works great. Here is the site I had found: http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/scsi.html -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (300-2400bd) (209) 754-1363 Visit my Commodore 8-Bit web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/commodore.html -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Early computer serial numbers??

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>>0000474 >>0000475 >>0000477 > >I can see some additional value of the two consecutive, if kept together, >now all you need is 476 :^) This reminds me of a recent ad of a gent looking for his old (70s) HP calculator, which he had lost years back - he had the serial number and was advertising for THAT PARTICULAR UNIT. Now *that* would be an amazing find! Cheers A

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Early computer serial numbers??

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Yeh, and two, almost three are numbered in succession... how often does <that happen. Plus, those particular machines came from two different <states, and the successive machines were also split up by 900 miles!! <How often does that happen? Early on they were allocated one per store! Also Board part number 1700069A was the first production model, the 1700069D was second and later the 1700069G. The A version required a fair amount of green wire from the factory to make it work. Below 10 and the first are of interest more than the nth copy unless that happend to be the last copy. Allison

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Early computer serial numbers??

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

>Anyway, for a TRS-80 collector, or classic computer collectors in >general... how does these early numbers effect their value to potential >collectors of these machines. I've heard of someone (I think) that had a >very early numbered CoCo (less than 10?), but haven't heard much else. >Any more of you have stories like this that I mentioned above? My favourite subject! I have Mattel Aquarius II computers serial #8, #10, #68 I have it's colour printer serial #2 I think early serial #s are very collectible, myself. YOu can see all my serial #s for the Aquarius items at http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/weird/aquarius.html Cheers A

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What ever happened to Woz?

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Lynx worked fine too. Suggestive? >>I tried that before. I get the following error: >>The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy. >> >>Remote server closed connection. >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > > >I can't get in with MSIE, but Netscape worked. Have you tried to Netscape? > > -- Kirk > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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What ever happened to Woz?

by kroma＠worldnet.att.net

>I tried that before. I get the following error: >The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy. > >Remote server closed connection. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - I can't get in with MSIE, but Netscape worked. Have you tried to Netscape? -- Kirk

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Serial Eprom?

by jpero＠cgo.wave.ca

Hi guys! I have a need to burn new versions for a Always IN-2K scsi card using Xlinx chipset. Currently aspi driver is ingoring the card because the serial eprom containing firmware is old. I have new verions sitting on my HD along with new bios for the 27C256 chip. If you have one chip to sell and have equipment to burn that serial chip, that would be great! I can supply the 27C256-200ns or if you have one rated at 150ns for a price, burn it also. The serial Eprom is: AMD, am1736, DC, 031YEWH (date code?) The bios is 27C256 at 150ns. Thanks! This card also is nearing 10 years so there! Jason D. email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca Pero, Jason D.

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TI calculator display

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

The problem is that I can't tell how to attach another ribbon to the LCD, and the circuit board end is surface mount soldered. Ideas? >Chances are rather strong that there is a broken conductor in that >cable that makes intermittent contact, since you mention that a >consistent block of the display is flaky. _Might_ be a solder joint >on a chip, but those flat folded cables break often. The cable >might even be loose in the connector if you're lucky. >-- >Ward Griffiths >Dylan: How many years must some people exist, > before they're allowed to be free? >WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed", > they'll never be free. > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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Mikbug info?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<>From very nearly the first day I bumped into a computer, I've <been finding sporadic references to MIKBUG, an early monitor <ROM for 6800 machines. For instance, most of the older 6800 <monitor ROMs (SWTBUG, SMARTBUG, others?) claim preserve MIKBUG <But I've never seen one, or any any real documentation for <one. Can anybody out there help me find any of this stuff? <Of course I'd be happiest to find a binary image, source code, <and whatever docs originally came with it. But I'll take Same here. I have a M6800D1 and MIKBUG but no source listing. The function is a very simple program loader/debugger. What was interesting is the code was written so that routines like TTYin, TTYout, PRINTCHR and PRINTnum could be called from external programs. Saving some coding effort. Allison

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TI calculator display

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

A certain TI-85 (which I will try to fix, but is not mine) has a strange problem. The display does not display a strip of graphics. Everything else is fine, but about 20 rows just don't work. They DO work sometimes, but are then distorted. The LCD is connected to the board with a ridiculously long ribbon connector, folded several times, made out of thin plastic. Any ideas? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

NONE of those should be very high, since these are the wires going directly to the electronics. One has a label "+5v". I am pretty sure it's not dangerous at all. If you fry the system, you can take mine - I can't give you my hands if you blow them off, though.... >[Sys/34] >Looks... >Oh you mean the one by the "DANGER 480V" stickers? > >:) >ARE YOU NUTS!? > >Well, once I get the probe of my voltmeter fixed, I'll try it. >Any idea where I can stick probes w/o crisping myself? >------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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Things seen

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<devices). Maybe if I can get my hands on an assembler, I'll finally <have a use for it! Keep looking as there was an assembler for disk (PEB, 32kram, rs232, floppy). I have a copy but not giving it away as I use it on my system >from time to time. The 9900 wasn't a bad cpu for the late 1970s timeframe (the 99/4a was later) but it was slow and the 99/4a was real slow. Allison

28 years, 1 month

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Nintendo Stuff...

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

Having spent over 10 years programming BOTH the NES and SNES, yet I know little about the hardware other than how to make it do stuff! That is; I know the registers, not the chips. I can confirm, however... NES = 6502 SNES = 65816 - the world's worst processor!!! Gameboy = Z80 There is a very good NES emulator ccalled Nesticle. Cheers A -----Original Message----- From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Nintendo Stuff... >Hotze wrote: > >> Hi. I've got a few questions, some are on topic, some arn't. >> 1) How do you get into the case of a NES? (Origional Nintendo, 8 bit) >> What's inside? (Other than the 6502) >> 2) What about SNES? >> 3) Gameboy? >> 4) (Off-topic) what processor does the Virtual Boy use? What kind of stuff? >> Emulators avaible? How do I transfer ROMS? > >Is anyone aware that on the original Nintendo that if you have problems where it >won't recognize the game cartridge you can call the 1-800 number on the game and >talk to them about getting a one time replacement, as long as you tell them >you'll repair the game and that you're the owner, not a repair shop? They'll >also want the game's serial number to track whether it's been sent a replacement >already. They know the original is crap and that they'll make a few $$$ doing >overhauls on machines made defective by their own penny pinching. If you insist >on buying the connector, MCM Electronics has the connectors for around $9. > >As for getting into the case, remove the outer screws, lift the lid, take off >the shield, slide the connector off and slip the new one on, and install the >shield and cover. No big deal. Some of the newer ones have security screws >though so get them out by drilling a small hole in them and use an "EZ OUT" to >revove the old screws, replace them with common screws of the same size. > >If anyone gets into this stuff regularly and needs security type bits, MCM has a >nice little set for around $12. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Russ Blakeman > RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 > Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 > Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com > Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ > ICQ # 1714857 > * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >

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What ever happened to Woz?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

I tried that before. I get the following error: The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy. Remote server closed connection. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- So, anyone...? Ciao, Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Seth J. Morabito <sethm(a)loomcom.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:12 PM Subject: Re: What ever happened to Woz? >> >> Ok... there's this technicial genius, he makes what very well may be the two >> key foundations necessary for IBM to make a PC for Compaq to clone it, for >> Unix to serve it, to make the Internet to share it... BUT WHAT THE ^*%@ >> HAPPENED TO HIM? >> I've got a faint notation that he got involved in Be, what ever that is. >> It seems like an OS, I remember hearing that it was getting ported to Intel >> platforms... what happend to him? Why isn't he like... at Apple, where he >> belongs doing innovation? >> Thanks, > >All your questions, and more, can be answered at: > >http://www.woz.org/ (no kidding!) > >He's teaching 5th grade now. He's doing what every great person who >achieves tremendous wealth should, in my humble opinion, be doing: Giving >up the crazy game and going off to enjoy life :) More power to him. > >BTW, _definitely_ not on-topic and I apologize for that, but Be is >indeed an OS company, and it's gaining quite a following, although I >don't believe Wozniak has ever had anything to do with them. You may >be thinking of the CEO, Jean-Louis Gassee, who was an... "interesting" >figure at Apple for quite some time. More answers can be had at >http://www.be.com/ (amazingly enough). > >-Seth (Be Developer #3048)

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Mikbug info?

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

28 years, 1 month

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card reading

by jfoust＠threedee.com

David Wollmann <dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com> wrote: >I'm working with >Hollerith cards on my system right now with an optical card scanner. Data >storage capacity measured by bytes/pound anyone? Can you tell us more about what you're doing? Is this a commercial card reader, or something you built yourself? I was daydreaming the other day about reading punched cards using a flatbed scanner. Software to "read" them could be quite simple, and could easily adapt to the various card geometries. Or you could even make a reader from a feed-roller and an old hand-held scanner. I find using today's gizmos to rescue yesterday's data quite interesting... - John Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>

28 years, 1 month

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Things seen

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Today was a good day at the thrift store- could you folks tell me fair prices for the following (as well as any requests) 2 Apple GS programs w/all docs and boxes. Anyone want? A Zenith eaZy PC, a 286 easily mistakable for a dumb terminal. It's cool but priced $30 A TI 99/4A - how much should I pay and what processor does it use An ISA card claiming on its box to be a UPS - if it's still there, I will take it tomorrow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 1 month

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Nintendo Stuff...

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hi. I've got a few questions, some are on topic, some arn't. 1) How do you get into the case of a NES? (Origional Nintendo, 8 bit) What's inside? (Other than the 6502) 2) What about SNES? 3) Gameboy? 4) (Off-topic) what processor does the Virtual Boy use? What kind of stuff? Emulators avaible? How do I transfer ROMS? Thanks again, Tim D. Hotze

28 years, 1 month

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Irreverence to irrelevance

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >BTW, how are you getting on with that ASR-33? Need any more help? I can >look up details for you, and attempt to describe the bits in question. I found someone who was willing to xerox the service manual for me at cost, approximately USD $4-8. Someone else wanted to sell me the set for $20. Being a "millionaire cheapskate", I took the former, assuming the latter would still be there if I needed it. :-) Along the same line, if anyone has a spare current-loop to RS-232 adapter that would cost less than a new one, I'd love to get it. I believe my Terak handles 20 ma, but I'd rather have a more generic link from the ASR-33 to other computers. >I was half -joking, don't worry. If I seriously considered that the ASR33 >was off-topic, do you think I'd type up and post sections from the repair >manuals? I very much appreciated that. Above and beyond the call of duty. I joined the "Greenkeys" mailing list, a ham radio RTTY list. I described my web page regarding old ASCII art, and one fellow sent me a box of 30-40 year-old RTTY ASCII art - pictures of President Eisenhower, etc. Some is printed, some is Baudot 5-level tape, some 7-bit tape. >Yes, that definition is very wide. It would allow mechanical >calculators and things like that (anybody got strong views on keeping >these off the list?). As a teen, I remember disassembling a Freiden (?) calculator, and finding a wire loop memory, several circles about a foot in diameter. But the calculator collectors have their own lists, don't they? - John Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>

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Time/Date stamper

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 20, 17:02, Max Eskin wrote: > Subject: Time/Date stamper > I recently picked up a time/date stamper from the trash. It is a > box with a slot, and when a paper is inserted, the paper is stamped. > The first year on the stamping drum is 1951, so I assume that's when > it was made. It uses a cloth ribbon for ink. How do I reink it? The stuff that's used to re-ink dot-matrix printer ribbons will probably do. What colour was the original? A lot of these used blue. If you have a good stationary supplier nearby, the stuff to ask for is "endorsing ink" which is what's used to re-ink endorsing-stamp (rubber-stamp) pads. Or use WD-40 to extract whatever life is left in the original, if it's dried up rather than exhausted. But go easy, don't add too much, and let it soak in for a while. > Also, the stamping has impressed the numbers into the rubber platen. How > do I get rid of that? When I ran litho printing presses (in a former life) we used a solvent called MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) to undo "blanket smashes" -- dents in the rubber offset blanket caused by crumpled paper under high pressure. It's also used to give the blanket an occasional extra-good clean. MEK is also used in the plastics industry as a solvent and to glue PVC and ABS. It shouldn't be too hard to find. Caution: it's very inflammable, it dissolves or at least attacks several types of plastic, removes ink as soon as you look at it, and also removes the natural oils from your skin, so don't wash you hands in it :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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More on setting-up Sun3 from tape

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On 23 Mar 1998 18:15:18 -0800, Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote: >>I'm not sure what edlabel is, but if you are running SunOS, there ... The OS is NetBSD 1.2, and edlabel is the partitioning command available from the miniroot program loaded by the tape boot loader. >>So I'm guessing you want to set partition b to start at 29297 and be length 20480 (for 10MB, are you sure that is enough), and<< According to the NetBSD FAQ, the swap partition is to be 2 to 3 times the size of the RAM, which is 4mb. >>Or am I missing something here? My math came out similar to yours, too. However, I keep getting the "ioctrl" error message, which does not show up in the man pages that I have. So...I'm appealing to the great Unix minds congregating in this list to shed some light. edlabel allows me to create the "a" partition, but no others. ================================== Rich Cini/WUGNET - Charter ClubWin! Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of classic computers

28 years, 1 month

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FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I paid $5.00 for my Data General One. It's a piece of junk. The screen is IMPOSSIBLE to read, just as Data General boasts about it (go figure this for something to be proud of) at their web site. It is a large and heavy laptop and from a collector standpoint, in my opinion, isn't worth persuing unless you can get it on the cheap $15.00 to $25.00 maximum as a curiosity. An 8086/8088 system by any other name is an 8086/8088 system. $500.00 is a joke. Dream on. Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/25/98 1:46 AM On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Greg Troutman wrote: > > > >We have an OLD Data General One Laptop from 1983!!!! > > > > He wants $500 for it. Such a deal :-) > > He also said at the end, "No reasonable offer refused." Just curious, > what would you consider to be a reasonable offer for one of these. Or > perhaps more to the point, exactly what is one of these? ;) The DG/One was a fairly non-descript early 8086 laptop. According to DG's website, it was the "first truly portable" PC and they made 43,000 of them: http://www.dg.com/about/html/dg-one.html I don't know what a reasonable offer would be, but it's apparently more than the $15 I offered :-) GRiD's clamshell-style Compass laptop preceded the DG/One by a couple of years (and the GRiD is *much* cooler, IMHO). Perhaps the DG/One was the first battery-powered PC-compatible laptop? I can't think of an earlier one of the top of my head. -- Doug ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar25.014640.1767.33770; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:46:40 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10991; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:57 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA31470 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:49 -0800 Received: from behemoth.host4u.net (behemoth.host4u.net [209.150.128.29]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06816 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (yowza@localhost) by behemoth.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24149 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980324232833.32316P-100000(a)behemoth.host4u.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale In-Reply-To: <3518960C.6C568139(a)crl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Sender: yowza(a)behemoth.host4u.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Unix source licenses available soon?

by dastar＠wco.com

I just got this message from someone inside SCO. The only reason I don't post his e-mail address is because I don't know if he wanted people bombarding him with questions or requests for information. But I thought this might be of interest in case nobody else has heard. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:42:19 PST From: Dion Johnson To: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> Subject: yo I just finished arranging a nearly-free source license for people who want old UNIX sources Edition1-7. There are about 400 people in the PDP-1 Unix Preservation Society! (minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) I work for SCO and did the wrangling with the legal eagles, and yes it was a side project. It costs $100, but we will waive that fee for hardship/justifiable cases -Dion Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Wargames

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

>Which only goes to show that the spirit of curiosity and challenge that >motivated the rest of us to stay up all night writing code (or playing >Zork) is not dead. > >What's even better is that the younger members of this list have combined >that spirit with a sense of history; they will not be reinventing the >wheel, but will be building on it. > >If you don't know why screens were traditionally 80 columns wide, you don't >know if it's okay to toss that idea aside should the technology allows it. > Why ARE screens 80 Cols wide? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > >Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad >roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." >Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates >San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Wargames

by weese＠mind.net

> Yes, in "Wargames," the military did refer to the compuer as WOPR (War > Operations Planned Response), while the creator of the computer, and to the > hero, it was Joshua (the creator's dead son). Not sure what Capn Napalm meant by that, the thing I remember is that "Joshua" was (in addition to being the name of the computer creator's dead son, the light of his life) the secret #2 backdoor password to get in..... _____________________________________________ hoping to someday have half a brain, --- mikey weese(a)mind.net

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OS/2, Finally getting closer to what it's worth...

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Anybody need a paperweight? If it's from someone named "Carp", it's got to be good... >FS: 630 Copies, shrink wrapped, OS/2 ver. 3.0 (Warp) Blue Spine. > >$20. ea. plus s/h & COD. This edition includes the Bonus Pack. > >Yours truly, >Quantalytics, Inc. > >Arthur J. Carp >516.295.3230 (phone & fax, auto-switched) >mailto:quant@dti.net >http://home.dti.net/quant/forsale/forsale.html > > -Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf Simulator!)

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System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Open the panel below the CE Panel. A bit to your right is a vertical board w/lots of screw terminals. I need the voltages of the screw terminals when the system is running >[Sys/34 and Voltmeters.] >Well. My 34 has power, runs, and I think I can use a voltmeter. >I've measured batteries and such with it. If told what to do, cahnces are good >I can get the voltages you need/ >------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> >About 25-50 pounds in weight never mind cost. > ><b)Using a bunch of PC power supplies to power the DC components. ><My first problem is how I trick a PC/AT power supply to stay on when ><it's not hooked up to anything. Do I need to short something? > >Don't do it. First, switching powersupplies get real upset if the are not >loaded to some minimum point, they gernerally don't like running in >parallel and the other is power sequencing. What's power sequencing? ><Next is the problem of pinouts on the 34. There is ground and +5v ><labelled clearly. THere is also a circuit board with lots of screw ><terminals. Could someone tell me the voltages on those (it's a board ><right below the CE panel and a bit on the right)? > >Get and learn to use volmeters. There may be unsafe voltages or currents >at low voltages that can be dangerous. Also miswiring could toast the >machine fully and very completely. I have voltmeters, and know how to use them, but they aren't much use when there is no way to power the thing. > >Allison > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Apple ][ clones?

by TOwad＠aol.com

I'd recommend consulting Gaylord Hill <GaylordHil(a)aol.com>. He specializes in Apple II clones. Sincerely, Tom Owad >I used to be a big Apple ][ fan, but I really can't recall any early Apple >clones that match this description: > >"Apple II clone, either a peach or an Apricot, looks like an Apple II, but >has extended keyboard, also has upper and lower case, shift keys work on >all characters, not just on a few like Apple II. Cover is White Plastic, >condition of cover and keyboard good. No label on cover. No identification >on Motherboard."

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Commodore 128D for sale

by archive＠navix.net

Greets: A lady contacted me recently with the following description of a pretty good Commodore system she has for sale. I'm not going to get it, so I thought I'd pass it on to you folks. Please reply directly to her at RosemaryConte(a)worldnet.att.net --the message is as follows: I have a Com 128D computer, detachable keybd; 1571 disc dr; MPS 1000 printer; Magnavox RGB Display 80 monitor. Compat w/ Com 64 software; cables, software, etc. I'd like to get $100 for it. -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

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Mac II problem

by rexstout＠ptld.uswest.net

Here's the message I just sent to ClassicMacs mailing list, I'm too lazy to type it all again ;-) ============================= Just picked up a Mac II 5/80/two 800k FD's for $15(including a datatronics keyboard and an Apple mouse), with an ethernet card that everyone seemedd to think was a second video card... They said whenever they plugged a monitor into it, the computer shutdown. I hope it hasn't been destroyed... Anyways, it came with System 6.0.5, Word 4.0 and Illustrator 88(and tons of documents for both programs), all of which have already been deleted. Problem is that I'm having trouble getting System 7.0 to run. At first I couldn't get it to boot at all from the disk tools disk, then I finally installed it onto one of the three partitions and deleted the Sys6 system folder. Then it still woudn't boot. I took out the ethernet card and my PC Drive card(which I think may be bad). Now it tries two or three times minimum to boot from the hard drive, and usually refuses to boot from the floppy(although that may be fixed now, I'm not sure). The Apple HD SC Setup on the Disk Tools disk did not see the disk, so I went back to my PowerMac which had a copy of a hacked HD SC Setup I had downloaded. Back to the II, where the disk refused to boot. OK, I finally got it to boot from the HD, then I opened the floppy, and then the system folder. Finally the normal System Folder icon is back and it boots again. I launch the hacked HD SC Setup and it sees a disk at SCSI ID 6(I haven't changed that yet, I need to take the HD out and find the info on it), but it can't reformat. It says it can't prepare the disk for initialization, no particular reason is given... Current config right now is 5/80 with the two 800k drives, and the Radius Pivot interface. Any ideas? I'm stumped. ============================= -------------------------------------------------------------- | http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html - Computers | | http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/ - Star Trek | | orham(a)qth.net list admin call sign coming soon... | --------------------------------------------------------------

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HP Win 3.1 -- off topic, but need help

by engine＠chac.org

Yesterday I did the Silicon Valley Elderhostel comp. hist. lecture, and in the Q&A afterwards, a woman from one of the gold rush ~ghost towns in the Sierra said that her school had been given two HP Vectra 486's, but with no OS's. HP has been forced to follow MS' ultimatum (who but MS could or would step on HP?) and can only supply her with Win95, which these boxes don't have the horsepower for, on CD, but.... no CD drives either. She badly needs HP Vectra OEM Windows 3.1(1) on 3.5" floppies, and HP's response to her is basically "We're only allowed to tell you that that never existed." Can anybody help with a copy? TVMIA -- __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

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CMOS Battery for PC/AT

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I picked up an original PC/AT that has a dead lithium battery for the CMOS bios parameter storage. The battery says it's 6.8 volts. It's the kind that is a 1/2x1x2 inch pack with a six-inch lead. I've tried several places to find a replacement, but either a store doesn't have it, or, if they have one, the voltage is not exactly 6.8 volts. So, what's the acceptable voltage range, especially on the low end? And any good sources? Thanks, Dave

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DING DING! Back to your corners... WAS: Re: Irreverence to irrelevance

by lfb107＠psu.edu

I think we all need to take a step back, grab a few drinks, and try and look at what's going on here. So far, everyone has had some valid points. If we interpret the FAQ literally than perhaps Sam is right. I would tend to believe, however, that Bill Whitson's original idea was to have "liberal" restrictions on the group so as to perpetuate discussion of "classic" computers. Not all posts have adhered to the exact words of the FAQ. Some examples might be posts on logic probes or on "orphaned" machines that aren't necessarily 10 years old. The idea behind these posts is that it might be something that interests people who like to talk about classic computers or that this mailing list might actually be the best place to get info on that topic. There are noted exceptions of course, but I think that what would be best would be to ignore these posts and just delete them as was earlier suggested. I guess the main thing I'm trying to say is that the FAQ should'nt be treated as gospel but as *general* guidelines that should (normally) be adhered to. This means that instead of launching inquistions against people who may post off topic, a "Hey, please try and stay on topic for now on, but, yeah, I don't like AIWA CD players either" would be nice. There really is no need to attack poeple either. We all have our "allegiences" and we've all probably have had some kind of altercation with Sam in the past but I really think that we shouldn't take all this THAT seriously! Sam has called me an ass recently too. SO WHAT? I sent an e-mail back to him and called him an asshole too. CASE CLOSED. We're ALL assholes to some degree but when it comes down to it, if I need help putting an Apple II back together (something I know NOTHING about) than Sam is here to help. So... on that note. I am in need of some old removable SyQuest disks for an SQ555 drive. (the 44mb variety) Anybody know where I might find some? The local 'puter store still sells them for $40 a pop! Thanks, Les lfb107(a)psu.edu

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Washington DC area classics?

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Sorry about the typo's on my earlier response. If you are in the DC area during early June, don't miss the Manassas (Virginia) ham fest hosted by the Ole Virginia Hams, you should find some classics there. Otherwise check the local flea markets, thrift shops, yard sales etc. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/24/98 11:57 AM Thanks for the info. Also, can I ask wherey ou can *get* classics? Seeing as I'm going to being in Guyana for a couple'a years, I'll need something to do... Cheers, Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Marty <Marty(a)itgonline.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? > National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, > Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of > cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and > Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also > located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't > know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on > the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ > > Marty Mintzell > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Washington DC area classics? >Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet >Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM > > > Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, > and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able > to find classics while there. > Thanks, > > Tim D. Hotze > > > ------ Message Header Follows ------ > Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com > (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) > id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 > Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP > id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 > Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP > id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 > 08:13:03 -0800 > Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) > by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP > id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 > > -0800 > Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh > (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 > for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; > Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 > Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" > <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Washington DC area classics? > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar24.115727.1767.33674; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:57:28 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA01097; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:15 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA16926 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:09 -0800 Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24070 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:06 -0800 Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.18]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA24233 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:08 +0300 Message-Id: <004701bd5744$053fc5a0$b162bcc1@hotze> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:43 +0300 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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RA90

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Oh, smaller is good! I assume it's lighter, too? (Is this something I can lift myself? Carrying that RA81 was a real pain in the a**!) -------

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Wargames

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 06:50 PM 3/22/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >I just saw Wargames; what an excellent movie! I encourage >Is it just me or have these movies been out and already been tossed in >the bargain rental area at the video stores? You guys need to get out Um, I believe there are folks on this list who weren't *born* when that movie came out. Which only goes to show that the spirit of curiosity and challenge that motivated the rest of us to stay up all night writing code (or playing Zork) is not dead. What's even better is that the younger members of this list have combined that spirit with a sense of history; they will not be reinventing the wheel, but will be building on it. If you don't know why screens were traditionally 80 columns wide, you don't know if it's okay to toss that idea aside should the technology allows it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Washington DC area classics?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Thanks for the info. Also, can I ask wherey ou can *get* classics? Seeing as I'm going to being in Guyana for a couple'a years, I'll need something to do... Cheers, Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Marty <Marty(a)itgonline.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? > National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, > Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of > cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and > Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also > located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't > know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on > the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ > > Marty Mintzell > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Washington DC area classics? >Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet >Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM > > > Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, > and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able > to find classics while there. > Thanks, > > Tim D. Hotze > > > ------ Message Header Follows ------ > Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com > (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) > id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 > Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP > id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 > Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP > id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 > 08:13:03 -0800 > Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) > by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP > id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 > > -0800 > Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh > (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 > for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; > Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 > Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" > <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Washington DC area classics? > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >

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Washington DC area classics?

by Marty＠itgonline.com

National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Washington DC area classics? Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able to find classics while there. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:03 -0800 Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 -0800 Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Washington DC area classics? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Washington DC area classics?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able to find classics while there. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

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Russian PDP-11 info source

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

In case anyone is interested I found an odd source of a little info on a Russian PDP-11 the BK0010. The February issue (107) of Amiga Format, which should currently be available in the US, has a section on Emulators, and they talk about the BK0010. In my area both Barnes and Nobles, and Borders books carry the magazine, with Borders carrying the version with CD coverdisks for ~$15, and B&N carrying the Floppy coverdisk version for ~$10.50. The emulator wouldn't be on the floppies, but it MIGHT be on the CD, I don't know, I've not had time to look at my CD. There is an emulator available, but the minimum system requirements are a 68020 WorkBench 2, and 1Mb RAM. A 40Mhz 68030 is recommended to get full speed, and apparently a 68060 is to fast. In all it's only about 8 paragraphs, but it might be of interest to some of the PDP-11 enthusiasts on the list. I've no idea if the emulator is available for any other machines, but it might run in the Amiga emulator if you have a fast enough machine to run that on. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | | For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |

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