- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

At 02:32 PM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >Wern't the original Altair 8 inch drives hard sectored? Yes... -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I'm looking for a reason why they went to the trouble of making it. What are the voltages on it? I don't actually have any of the hardware, just wondering. >the DIN connector on the back of the machine? Exactly for that. Is max >looking for a 12v mono amber monitor for one? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Russ Blakeman > RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 > Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 > Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com > Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ > ICQ UIN #1714857 > AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" > * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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OS/2 Warp

by mallison＠konnections.com

Max: I saw a copy at Bookman's on INA in Tucson AZ for 10.00 yesterday. Maybe someone could get you a phone number, I know they'd ship it. I'm back home now, or I'd pick it up for you.... Mike ---------- From: Max Eskin Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 12:23 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: OS/2 Warp I know this is less than 10 yrs. old, but somone offered OS/2 warp here and I forget who it was. I'll take if it's not too expensive. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Apple //gs composite video prob

by PB14＠leicester.ac.uk

On 2 Jul 98 at 17:43, R. Stricklin (kjaeros) wrote: > I just picked up a ROM v01 //gs at a thrift shop. > > The colour composite video it generates is very badly artifacted. On my > ][plus, there is a 'colour trim' adjustment which I would expect to > correct this on the mainboard, but I didn't see anything like this on the > //gs. Sorry, I can't help with this bit. > Also, the colours are pale and incorrect when I use my Apple // RGB > monitor (the one with the electric tilt) on the RGB port. This monitor > doesn't work on the RGB port of my //c at all, so I'm wondering if it's > just a matter of not being quite the right monitor for the //gs (which > has, if I recall, a monitor more closely styled along Mac lines). Apple IIGS RGB port = analogue signal at NTSC frequency. This port requires the specific RGB display for the IIGS, early multi sync displays from Sony and NEC, many Amiga and Atari displays etc but NOT VGA. Apple // RGB tilt monitor = digital display, surely. You'll get some display from the IIGS on it but as you say the colours are wrong. Apple //c RGB port = raw RGB signal. It requires an adapter to convert it to something a monitor will understand. Alltech Electronics sell adapters for analogue and digital displays, I understand. Phil ************************************************************** Phil Beesley -- Computer Officer -- Distributed Systems Suppport University of Leicester Tel (0)116 252-2231 E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk

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I think I'm going to be sick

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

I went back to the Salvation Army store where I picked up the Wang PC last week, and was shocked to find that ALL of the computer junk had been replaced by shelves full of lamp shades! I am NOT joking, they actually had shelves full of lamp shades where only one week earlier they had too much cool old electronic junk for me to carry, or even to look at properly. I was really happy a couple of months ago when the place 'reawakened' and started filling up with interesting stuff again. But now I know that the SOURCE of the computer stuff has probably always been there, it's just that the Salvation Army store has been keeping it from me! I asked the employees what had happened to all that 'old computer junk', and was told that it had all been THROWN OUT LAST WEEK. :( I was assured that it was already gone, not just sitting in a dumpster outside. I now feel really badly that I didn't go back on Friday morning to rescue that IBM-PC that was full of cards, that Tandy 1000TX, those magnetic strip card readers, the VIC 1541, and that cool-looking grey and rounded Olivetti screen. In my defense all I can say is that I assumed I'd have another chance at them this week, and that I expected the biggest threat to be someone else buying them before I got back. But my competition is my friend, not my enemy. Unfortunately, my competition seems only to be interested in the VIC-20s, Commodore 64s, Atari 800s, and Apple //s, which all tended to disappear from the shelves fairly quickly. Now I'm hoping someone else DID pick up some of that stuff before it was thrown in the dumpster. I guess that Wang came to within two days of the end of its electronic life, and I am grateful that at least I was able to rescue it. But I would have liked to have had a good look at all of the monitors and terminals before they were turfed, because the one that was used with the Wang may have been among them. I'm feeling really depressed about this. And one thing that pisses me off is that they've still got a large shelf full of speakers, turntables, 8-track decks, old stereos etc. Why the hell would they keep that stuff, but toss the computers? There's a funky-looking 8-track + stereo receiver thing that has been in the store for YEARS, yet they won't hold onto old computers for more than a couple of months before the whole lot gets tossed into the trash? Well DAMN THEM TO HELL, and damn ME for not being more vigilant. I went back for the PC yesterday, despite the fact that I hadn't had ANY sleep the night before, and the fact that I'd have to carry it with me to work and then to class afterward. I thought I was going a little crazy for even considering it (I'm built like Stick Man), but now I wish I had attempted to rescue MORE stuff last week. Dammit, I wish I had dragged ALL the stuff I wanted to the desk and paid for it, and had them sit it in a back room until I could come back for it. Dammit, I wish there had been some sort of warning. Anyway, the total lack of anything interesting on the junk shelves did get me to look through the books. And I did find a few interesting things there (but nothing that'll make me any happier about those trashed computers). I guess I'm going to have to find out where those trashed computers GO. Anyway, the books I picked up were: Programmer's Guide to GEM (Balma & Filter, SYBEX 1986) Programming in Assembly Language: MACRO-11 (Edward F. Sowell, Addison-Wesley 1984) PC to VAX: A Communications Guide (Sandler & Badgett, Scott, Foresman and Company, 1990) Getting Started With Color BASIC (1981 Tandy Corporation) I think I may have to have a garage sale to sell some of the non-computer books I have, so that I can do something better with the computer books I keep buying than stacking them on the floor. Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/

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Video Game Crash of 1983

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

> From: Tom Owad <tomowad(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: old AOL disks > > .... (Bill von Meister had been one > >of the founders of The Source which was bought by > >Readers Digest) > > What ever happened to The Source? When did they shut down and why? I think they were bought out by Compuserve (or possibly America On-Line). And they were shut down in favor of their new owner's already existing services. > > > Video game crash of '83? Would you please explain? In the early 80s there was a home video game boom started by the home game PONG and all it's clones then Atari produced one of the first popular cartridge programmable games, the 2600. Not soon after that there were probably a dozen competitors including Matell (Intellivisaion), Magnavox (Oddesy), Balley (Astrocade), etc. By about 1983 there was a major glut of game machines and cartridges, too many to support the market... Then the bottom fell out around 1983 with the avent of cheaper home computers with just as good (if not better) game playing ability, which started capturing the attenetion of the masses and the gamers stopped buying video games in favor of computers, many of the game companies were hit REALLY hard and some folded. Of course this was the start of the home computer wars. :) Some were able to 're-tool' for home computer games and did quite well. I still miss the old Electronic Games Magazine that folded in around 1984 or so... One of the few magazines that did good reviews on the home and arcade game machines. -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (300-2400bd) (209) 754-1363 Visit my Commodore 8-Bit web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/commodore.html -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Fw: Old Radio Shack computers -FREE

by fauradon＠pclink.com

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Terminals I need to get out of here

by rhblake＠bibtel.com

Well I had been holding some older terminals for a guy that I'd already shipped some things to in the past to find that he's going to have to move and the items I had on hold won't be going to him after all. They all work and look good and they're going for FREE but you get to pay shipping, advance. I have the following (again) Visual 102 with keyboard DEC VT 220, no keyboard DEC VT 1xx (I have to check to see if it's a 100 or 131), no keyboard I need to hear from someone and get a firm answer by Friday July 5th or they go the way of the dead TV - to the dump. I also have one last HP 700/44 terminal with keyboard/cable like new and very functional, amber screen, current loop and serial connections, emaulates a few terminal types that I would like $15 plus shipping for. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ UIN #1714857 AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Well, I am letting three Compaq deskpros rot in the rain outside- I just have nothing for them to do. I'm sure they still work. Anyone know what compaq made that godforsaken power interface for? >Saved a Compaq Portable(w/5.25" FD and unknown 5.25" FH HD) from a >dumpster... AFTER a 10 foot flight into it! Plugged it in and it still >works... Needs some repairs, I can hear stuff rattling around inside, but >it does work... Booted from the hard drive with Compaq DOS 3.31. Also got a >MasterSport 386SL(386SX-20, 4MB RAM, 63MB HD) and a 486 motherboard(gonna >set it up with Linux or something). Also getting a 1970 VW Bug for my >birthday next week... I suppose this makes it a good day despite the belt >clip on my radio breaking this morning(now I get to make a nice metal one >to replace the broken plastic one). > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >| http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html - Computers | >| http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/ - Star Trek | >| Orham(a)qth.net list admin KD7BCY | >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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OS/2 Warp

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I know this is less than 10 yrs. old, but somone offered OS/2 warp here and I forget who it was. I'll take if it's not too expensive. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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c64 information

by CharlesII＠nwonline.net

Do any of you folks know of any electronic recorces for teaching yourself how to program the c64?

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Way to identify original IBM-PC?

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

This is not sure-fire, but I've found that if the big label on the back does NOT have the notice "contains copyrighted code..." that it's most likely an original version. Kai -----Original Message----- From: Doug Spence [mailto:ds_spenc@alcor.concordia.ca] Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 2:01 AM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Way to identify original IBM-PC? Hi, I was wondering if there's a surefire way of telling if an IBM-PC has its original motherboard, without opening the case. I saw one at the Salvation Army today and was considering dragging it home (though I decided to take another machine instead). The machine did have a cassette port in the back, with a femal DIN connector. Is this attached to the motherboard? The machine also had a full complement of cards in its slots, with lots of ports coming out of it. And a 3.5" drive that was poorly fitted into the case. I'm wondering if I should make a trip downtown sometime this weekend, with the car. Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/

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principals in online selling? (was: IMSAI 8080)

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

At 02:51 AM 6/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >> For Sale: >> >> IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer >[...] >> Asking price: $300 > >After a round of email bidding, the seller sez: >> IT SOLD FOR $1000. THAMKS FOR THE RESPONSE. > >Somebody recently suggested that it would be better to offer stuff >directly to readers of this list rather than advertising them via online >auction. The last IMSAI that sold on eBay went for around $650, I think. > >FWIW, >Doug (still IMSAI-less) Well... while it may not improve the price, it may improve the audience... B^} While trying to NOT reignite another flame war (which I probably contribute to), the qualifier on this idea might be that when you post something, post it with an acceptable price. IMHO that should not be a difficult proposition for someone who is looking for a good home for a piece of equipment. If you are just going to relocate an auction, then you are probably only in it for the money! (boy, am I gonna get yelled at for THAT one) What really scrapes my oxide is an approach that I am starting to see more often in postings in and newsgroups. (it has happened to me twice now in the last month) Someone posts an item with an asking price. I respond to the message with a counter offer. The seller responds with a counter-counter offer that I find acceptable. I respond to the message with my acceptance and provide shipping details. The seller then responded back indicating that he has received a higher offer and that the unit has been sold without so much as an opportunity for further response. Now, maybe it is just me... But from my view when responded with a counter to my offer, we were in the midst of transacting a deal and I should have 'right of first refusal' until the point that either we make the deal or I decide I don't want it. I don't appreciate multi-thread dealing going on without being informed. And it was not like there were any extended delays between these messages. The entire series of exchanges occurred over less than 24 hours. Very similar for the second occurrance I mentioned above... BTW: a HERO-2000 auction just closed on eBay for $4027.78... (sheesh!) -jim (the obviously overly idealistic one...) --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by franke＠sbs.de

>>> Hint: Windows98 is Windows95 with the '5' replaced with an '8'. >> It should be only a minor correction - just adding a 2^1 bit to >> get Win97, but due a litte mathematical problem they realy inverted >> the lower nibble before inverting the 2^1 .... :) > Am I missing something? Ya > 95 = 1011111 > 98 = 1100010 95 = 00111001 00110101 (ASCII) or 10010101 (BCD) 98 = 00111001 00111000 (ASCII)or 10011000 (BCD) Or do you realy belive they have changed any code beside this byte ? >> The rest is history:) Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Wang Thang

by blindpete＠stratos.net

Hi Yes a reality, and a nic name I got from some friends. I don't remember the key stroke to open a new file or to save to disk, but it had some thing to do whith function key 3 or 4 I think remember it's been a while, after the function key a letter I am not sure whitch letter opened a new fiel whith a prompt for a file name: you typed in the file name pressed enter and you wore in the word prosessor, and could type what ever in. I used it mostly to write messages on from calls ect, I would leave it on all day, and get some help later on some one would read it back to me so I could braille it out. The drive was ten MB and had Wang dos on it and the word prosser was also on it. The monotor was a Wang monotor, I don't know if they are still available. This Wang I had was baught at a flee market, a fellow had 20 or 30 of them he was selling complete for $25 about ten years ago. A friend saw it and snagged one for me he knew I was interested in computers, and thought it would make a interesting birthday present for me. I sold it eventually because I couldn't het a sinthasiser that would work in the card slots, they worent ISA or any thing like that, not sure what they wore. Pete Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Registered

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Find: "Z80 Starter Kit" - any hints?

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hi Ethan and all, At 01:44 AM 7/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >Yo, > > Z80 Starter Kit > SDS SD Systems > (C) 1978 MICRO DESIGN CONCEPTS > >It packs a Z80 w/PIO and CTC, 8 socketed 2101L RAMs (and room for 8 more!), >a prototyping area (with labeled address and data bits right there), and two >(unpopulated) S-100 slots (with pads for -/+16V and +8V) In addition, there's >jacks for a cassette tape drive (and buttons labelled "cass load" and "cass >dump"), and below the ROM socket (w/masked programmed ROM "Z-BUG"), a toggle >switch ("PGM"/"READ") and a 24-pin DIP socket marked "PRO PROGRAMMER". > >With all that, I still have questions: > > o Is there any info on this? It looks much like a SYM-1 or Elf > of the day, but with a Z-80. > > o What ROMs might it program? 1702? (unlikely because of a lack of > odd power supply voltages) 2708? There is a pad at one edge of > the board that snakes over to the PGM/READ button, marked +25V. > I simply do not know which particular 1978 ROMs used that particular > programming voltage. > > o Why might I have heard of "Z-BUG"? Was it a famous monitor program > for the Z-80 boards of the late 70's? > > o If I can't find a good use for this, does anyone want to make me > an offer for it? I promise that I won't just go out and post it > on E-overpay. > >Thanks for any hints. I'd love to learn more about the history of this >thing. I just got it because it was a) affordable, b) a 1970's SBC, and >c) it has a place to add cards and my own circuits, should I decide that's >worth the effort. I could always wire on a 6164 RAM and a SCSI chip, but >then what would I do? > >-ethan > If you don't find a use for it, I'd be interested. I remember some ads from SD Sales in old issues of BYTES's, but the single board Z-80 computer didn't have any S-100 connectors, etc, IIRC. I enjoy and would like to a) figure out the monitor code b) find out what EPROM it would program. If the circuit is simple, it probably is for a 2716. What size EPROM is the "Z-BUG" in? c) Find out if it can use or test various S-100 boards, depending on what signals are provided. Would be an upgrade for my simple S-100 tester. Thanks, -Dave

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Any good search spots in L.A.?

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hello, At 03:09 PM 7/2/98 -0400, you wrote: >Howdy, all, > >I'm in sunny Glendale for the weekend, staying with a friend, and would love >to take the opportunity to scour the area for goodies. Any suggestions? I'd >rather take a planned approach than wander around the valley, looking for >Goodwills. I realize that the Bay Areais better pickings than Los Angeles, >but here is where I am. > There is C and H on Cororado Blvd. in Pasadena, but don't know if they have anything. There is also ECSC in Gardena, if you want to go that far. Their web site is www.eio.com The best bets seem to be the Ham radio swap meets, (not the commercial computer shows). The only one I know of on July 4 is in Santee, near San Diego. I enjoy the TRW meet the last Saturday of every month. I don't know if there are any gemeral or antique swap meets this weekend. Once per month there is one in the Rose Bowl. Wish I knew other places. I plan to visit the San Jose area in a few weeks, are there any suggestions for looking there? I know of Haltek in Mountain View and Halted + Weird Stuff in Santa Clara. -Dave

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8" Disks For Sale NEW!

by billm＠teleport.com

> Subject: NEW 8" Disks Available for sale > To: classicmp(a)u.washington.edu > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:49:02 -0700 (PDT) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0b2] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Greetings, I have been watching the traffic about 8" disks while recovering > from an ugly bit of doctoring, (2 months plus under care..sigh) and being > without insurance, I feel its time to sell some stuff... > > I have NEW 8" disks still in the original Boxes Both Single and Double > sided. > Either Memorex for the Single or Intel Brand (at least its their Label) for > the Double sided. I was going to put them on the Auction net but wanted to > give the list a shot first. > > Figure $5 a box and we will negotiate on the shipping. > Its the original Hard Cardbox for the disks so there is a little weight > there. > > I have also 3 different of DYSAN alignment disks, but let me get to the > storage unit to be precise on the descriptions. > > Like I say at the swap meets, the more you buy the cheaper they get. and if > you do not like my prices tell me I will change them. > > I got a LOT of Disks,,gotta pay for the storage unit and I been off work for > 2 months... > Let me know.. > > thanks > > Bill > shipping from Portland, or > > --VAA20658.899441345/smtp2.teleport.com-- >

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DECStation 3100 available

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi Doug, why that? It is at least a nice X-terminal .... cheers, emanuel ---------- > From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: DECStation 3100 available > Date: Thursday, July 02, 1998 6:25 PM > > On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, emanuel stiebler wrote: > > > THIS IS A VAXSTATION, NOT A DECSTATION. > > If anybody was disappointed, and really wants a DECStation 3100 > (MIPS-based unix box), I've got one that is free as long as you pick it up > from Santa Clara, Ca. > > -- Doug

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old AOL disks

by dcoward＠pressstart.com

> Didn't AOL get its start by being bundled with PC-GEOS? >Before it was known as Applelink it was called "Samuel" and worked with >the apple ][ as well. >Q-Link or Quantum link came first for the C64 and then was expanded >to include the Apple II. Once upon a time in the early 80's a man named Bill von Meister started a company called Control Video Corporation. (Bill von Meister had been one of the founders of The Source which was bought by Readers Digest) CVC started a service for Atari 2600 users called GameLine. Users would plug a large modem cartridge into their 2600 and could download a game and play it until they turned their 2600 off. This service was kill by the Video game crash of '83. Next they developed proprietary modems for the C64 and the Apple II and started a service called MasterLine. Same thing, you could download and try software before buying it. This is when I started with CVC (about the end of 1983 I think) MasterLine lasted 3 months. Next they acquired the software from a small on-line service called Playnet and in 6 months launched QuantumLink (Q-Link for short). At some point in here they also changed their name to Quantum Computer Services. Q-Link was a C64 only service. About 1987 they started AppleLink: Personal Edition (not to be confused with Apple's tech support service AppleLink) for Apple II, and IIgs. And about the same time they also started PCLink running under Tandy's DeskMate GUI. This is also the point where I left the company and moved to California. In California I ported Q-Link's Rabbit Jack's Casino Games to run on AppleLink but other than that I lost track of the company. I believe they changed their name and the service's name to America On Line in 1989. ========================================= Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com Senior Software Engineer Press Start Inc. Sunnyvale,CA Curator Museum of Personal Computing Machinery http://www.best.com/~dcoward/museum =========================================

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old AOL disks

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

> Once upon a time in the early 80's a man named >Bill von Meister started a company called Control >Video Corporation. (Bill von Meister had been one >of the founders of The Source which was bought by >Readers Digest) What ever happened to The Source? When did they shut down and why? > CVC started a service for Atari >2600 users called GameLine. Users would plug a >large modem cartridge into their 2600 and could >download a game and play it until they turned >their 2600 off. This service was kill by the Video >game crash of '83. Video game crash of '83? Would you please explain? Thanks, Tom -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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DECStation 3100 available

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi all, THIS IS A VAXSTATION, NOT A DECSTATION. but don't blame you for forawarding the wrong subject ;-)) cheers, emu

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Older software FS

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

I have an unused and unregistered copy, complete, of Zenith Data Systems/Heath Company's "Breakthrough Timeline" which appears to be a timeline creator/project manager. It has the original box, manuals, key template, registration certificate and the original 5.25" 360k floppies (still in the envelope). From scanning the manual it's roughly 1986/87 vintage and should run on most any machine from 8086/8088 up through our present array of hardware. Really good condition visually too, might be good as part of a collection. Need $12 for it which includes mailing in the 48 CONUS states. First come, first serve. Email me direct for info. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ UIN #1714857 AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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FW: DECStation 3100 available

by kyrrin＠jps.net

I hope the list will take this while I'm unsubscribed... This fellow wants to sell a DECStation 3100. If interested, please contact him directly. Have a great holiday! Attachment follows. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:19:53 -0400, in comp.sys.dec you wrote: >>From: "a.banerjee" <a.banerjee(a)larc.nasa.gov> >>Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec >>Subject: FS or trade: Digital Vaxstation 3100 >>Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:19:53 -0400 >>Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, USA >>Lines: 10 >>Message-ID: <359B9709.99D5E77F(a)larc.nasa.gov> >>Reply-To: a.banerjee(a)larc.nasa.gov >>NNTP-Posting-Host: satest2.larc.nasa.gov >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) >>Path: blushng.jps.net!news.eli.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.154.208!ais.net!NewsNG.Chicago.Qual.Net!jamie!Qual.Net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!reznor.larc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail >> >>not a dec person so any help identifying would be appreciated. >> >>digital vaxstation 3100 (no keyboard, mouse, disk or monitor) >>back has model # vs42a-bc >> >>make an offer or trade. >> >>please reply to bigshoe(a)erols.com >>thanks -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272) http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin -- also kyrrin [A-t] Jps {D=o=t} Net Spam is bad. Spam is theft of service. Spam wastes resources. Don't spam, period. I am a WASHINGTON STATE resident. Spam charged $500.00 per incident per Chapter 19 RCW.

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find... help

by allisonp＠world.std.com

I aquired HPscanjet 9190A. I have the flatbed scanner and the cable but, I do not know if there is an additional interface needed for PC or? use. the cable looks like parallel printer cable. Any info may help. Allison

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8" hard sectored disks

by dcoward＠pressstart.com

I recently found a large number of hard sectored 8" disks and I was hoping some one might knows what computers would use these disks. * Dysan 3740/2D, Double sided, Double density, format: 128 bytes/26 sectors, index 1 & 2. (I don't know if these are hard sectored. There is just one index hole in the disk but two index holes in the jacket) * Memorex 3201-3015, Compatibility: Shugart, Write protect, Single sided, Single density, Sectoring: 32 hard (Just regular 32 sector hard sectored disks) * Memorex 3071-2003, Single sided, Single density, Sectoring: hard * Verbatim FD 65-9000-HR, Single side, Single density, Vydec/ Memorex compatible. (These have 33 index holes in the disk, but they are arranged around the out side edge of the disk. Also there is a 1 1/2" x 1/2" notch cut out one of the corners of the jacket.) I could not find a web page for Dysan, I searched Memorex's and Verbatim's pages and I emailed Memorex and got no reply. ========================================= Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com Senior Software Engineer Press Start Inc. Sunnyvale,CA Curator Museum of Personal Computing Machinery http://www.best.com/~dcoward/museum =========================================

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Apple //gs composite video prob

by red＠bears.org

Hi. I just picked up a ROM v01 //gs at a thrift shop. The colour composite video it generates is very badly artifacted. On my ][plus, there is a 'colour trim' adjustment which I would expect to correct this on the mainboard, but I didn't see anything like this on the //gs. Also, the colours are pale and incorrect when I use my Apple // RGB monitor (the one with the electric tilt) on the RGB port. This monitor doesn't work on the RGB port of my //c at all, so I'm wondering if it's just a matter of not being quite the right monitor for the //gs (which has, if I recall, a monitor more closely styled along Mac lines). Thoughts or hints? ok r.

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8" hard sectored disks

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< * Dysan 3740/2D, Double sided, Double density, format: < 128 bytes/26 sectors, index 1 & 2. (I don't know if these are hard < sectored. There is just one index hole in the disk but two index < holes in the jacket) These are flippies, you turn the over to use the other side. Hence two index openings. < * Memorex 3201-3015, Compatibility: Shugart, Write protect, < Single sided, Single density, Sectoring: 32 hard < (Just regular 32 sector hard sectored disks) Exactly. < * Memorex 3071-2003, Single sided, Single density, Sectoring: hard < * Verbatim FD 65-9000-HR, Single side, Single density, Vydec/ < Memorex compatible. < (These have 33 index holes in the disk, but they are < arranged around the out side edge of the disk. Also there is < a 1 1/2" x 1/2" notch cut out one of the corners of the jacket.) old style hardsector Ony a few drives used that style. Allison

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

What happened to wall sockets? >Power for the Compaq Mono monitor. > >ok >r. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by franke＠sbs.de

> Hint: Windows98 is Windows95 with the '5' replaced with an '8'. It should be only a minor correction - just adding a 2^1 bit to get Win97, but due a litte mathematical problem they realy inverted the lower nibble before inverting the 2^1 .... :) The rest is history:) Grins H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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LISA (fwd)

by franke＠sbs.de

>> I think that $200 is approaching the very-high-end of anything I would >> go after myself. > So, if I offered you an Apple 1, one of 200 made, for $1000, you'd turn it > down? Depends on the situation - If I don't have it (the money), I would just pass. If it's a single talk, I would try to barter for the price. If its a competition, I think I'll have to pass since USD 1000 wouldn't be the last call. > Whenever I see a system I want, I go through several rationalization > exercises. The first is "new systems cost much more and are much less > interesting." Yep > If that doesn't work, there's always "I haven't bought a new car in a > while, so I'll get this instead." Thats only the irrational exit if the rational way says no. > Then there's "if I value my time at $X/hour, and it would take me more > than Y hours to find this thing on my own, then it's worth at least $X*Y > to buy it from this guy." Nice, I have a similar system, used not only for computers. > For small stuff, I have a simple metric: sheer frivolous entertainment is > worth about $3/hour to me (e.g., movies: $6, magazine: $3, a good > book: $12, etc.), so if I can gain at least $X/3 hours of enjoyment from > the object, that's a buy signal. Hmm, don't fit my intention - 10 minutes of 'boh ey' it's mine could be more worth than 0.5 USD :) One of the nice things in collecting old computes and other stuff is that one could find things _unbeliable_worthy_ for zero money (or almost), since the value ist more determinated by our private idea about this particular thing. Example: I aquired some weeks ago two sealed ROM cards for the Apple II. They are just cheap (custom) ROM boards covered with blue resin (? Giessharz in German - don't know the exact term in english). Early designs of softwareprotection true hardware. They are complete worthless in any sense, but I enjoy it a lot to own them. So, whats the price ? If the owner had asked 20 USD, I would never had paid it. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Misc. DEC Boards

by peacock＠simconv.com

While checking some boxes in the computer room, I found these old spare DEC Q-Bus parts. They actually belong to the company but if you are willing to pay shipping plus trade something (cash is ok too) I can let them go. AFAIK all boards were pulled from working systems several years ago. Contact me at peacock(a)simconv.com MicroVAX I board set and cabinet kit (serial console connector) 4MB third party Q-BUS memory card, no RAMs (takes 256K DIPs), works great w/uVAX I CPU (you need VMS 5.0 for this, 5.1 and later not supported) ------------------- 11/23 CPU board and cabinet kit (2) DEC memory boards (I think 256KB and 128KB, not sure) both memory boards were with the 11/23 ------------------- MicroVAX 3500 CPU (KA650) board, no cabinet kit (might have it, not sure) (2) 8MB memory boards for the KA650 (this CPU has the older boot ROM, no SHOW command) -------------------- KDA50 disk controller 2 board set (was with the 3500) -------------------- RL02 Q-Bus disk controllers (2) I think RLV21s, have to look -------------------- 12MB expansion memory for a VAXStation 2000 -------------------- (6) DEPCA ethernet boards for ISA bus, old ones w/48KB buffers (all modified for Pathworks drivers) If you have stuff to trade, I could use any of the following: TK50 drive w/SCSI interface (TZ30 or TK50-G) internal preferred 16MB 72pin SIMMs (x32 or x36, EDO or FPM) IDE or SCSI disk drives 1GB or bigger 4mm or 8mm tape drives a flatbed scanner that works with Win95 a Q-BUS IDE or SCSI disk controller useful S-100 boards (tell me what you got) Atmel 89C2051 ucontrollers a monitor that works with the GPX board set in a uVAX II Cyrix 686 or Pentium 166 CPU chip (working on a flaky Motherboard) 33.6 modem ISA card that works with NT4 memory for an Alpha 500au or if you have something else to trade, let me know, make an offer. not interested in consumer computer stuff (i.e. apple, IBM PC, amiga etc.) Jack Peacock

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History Timeline

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 07:49 PM 7/1/98 -0800, Rax wrote: >Thanks to the noble efforts of John Hickenbotham, my computer/internet And thanks for the equally noble effort at spelling my last name. It's Higginbotham. :) Good work on the timeline. Hope to see it develop more in the future. - - john higginbotham ____________________________ - webmaster www.pntprinting.com - - limbo limbo.netpath.net -

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Mailing List Archives...

by kevan＠heydon.org

After a few month pause, the archives of ClassicCmp are now working again at this new URL: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/mlists/classiccmp/ I hope people will find them usefull. -- Kevan Old Computer Collector: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/

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Whheee! Saved from a dumpster...

by rexstout＠uswest.net

Saved a Compaq Portable(w/5.25" FD and unknown 5.25" FH HD) from a dumpster... AFTER a 10 foot flight into it! Plugged it in and it still works... Needs some repairs, I can hear stuff rattling around inside, but it does work... Booted from the hard drive with Compaq DOS 3.31. Also got a MasterSport 386SL(386SX-20, 4MB RAM, 63MB HD) and a 486 motherboard(gonna set it up with Linux or something). Also getting a 1970 VW Bug for my birthday next week... I suppose this makes it a good day despite the belt clip on my radio breaking this morning(now I get to make a nice metal one to replace the broken plastic one). -------------------------------------------------------------- | http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html - Computers | | http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/ - Star Trek | | Orham(a)qth.net list admin KD7BCY | --------------------------------------------------------------

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find... help

by fmc＠reanimators.org

allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) wrote: > I aquired HPscanjet 9190A. This is the original HP ScanJet. > I have the flatbed scanner and the cable but, I do not know if there is > an additional interface needed for PC or? use. the cable looks like > parallel printer cable. Any info may help. Yes, it needs an additional interface that looks a lot like a duplex parallel interface but is not like today's enhanced PC parallel port. Bob Niland <rjn(a)csn.net> has a canned FAQ that he posts to comp.sys.hp.hardware whenever this question comes up there. If you can webulate, you can find it pretty easily in DejaNews. Be advised that the gist of said FAQ is "forget it, if it breaks it'll need expensive fixing and is probably not worth your trouble." -Frank McConnell

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zeos laptops...

by poesie＠geocities.com

ok... this isn't classic, but does anyone have a line on zeos laptop parts for ~486 and up? have some strange little units that are lacking unique parts. thanks.. -Eric

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On Epson Px-8 Geneva

by samuels＠telcel.net.ve

Dear friend, Please i need of your help, in this moment i am using a Epson PX-8 Geneva, i need use the micro-cassette drive in the CP/M and the BASIC resident, you can help me, please send me command (CP/M and Basic) for this micro-cassette drive and more usefull command of CP/P (I only use Windows and DOS), all information on this great machine what you can send me, Tank you very Much for you great Help.

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History Timeline

by rax＠warbaby.com

Thanks to the noble efforts of John Hickenbotham, my computer/internet history timeline is now converted to HTML and I've put it up on my web site. I'd really appreciate your criticisms, corrections and suggestions. Gotta warn you, though, it's a pretty big file so you prolly shouldn't try to access it with those 1200 baud modems. It's also big in dimension - you'll need a 20" monitor to view the whole table without side-scrolling. http://www.warbaby.com/FG_test/Timeline.html Before y'all get too harsh with your crits, please bear in mind that it's a first draft. I've got more info to fill in, formatting to diddle with, and text to rewrite and edit. R. -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Dreadlocks on white boys give me the willies.

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Mag periph's drive info

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

Need drive parameters for an ESDI drive for someone, he says it's a Magnetic Peripherals model 94205-051. I've looked most places and can'r seem to locate it, even in my Pocket PC Ref -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ UIN #1714857 AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was

by allisonp＠world.std.com

I agree a very fancy data path/alu chip. <of the 29116s and 32 control lines for bus requests, data transfer <between the 29116's, etc). I have one sitting around... maybe I can do something with it. I have data. Allison

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QuantumLink AOL lore...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

Actually... Quantum Computer Services started off Quantum Link from the old Commodore 64 Play-Net network and later developed Apple and PC link as those developed (from the old Q-Link system) Quantum Computers changed their name to AOL and later shut down the Commodore Q-Link service after leting it suffer a slow-agonizing demise for a few years. Pitty, it was a good service. There are still a bunch of Q-Link ideosyncracies in the system such as 10 character screen names. There is a web page out there that gives the whole story, I came across it a while back in my surfing. Hopefully Doug Coward will read this and fill us in better, as he was an actual Q-Link employee for many years (read he actually worked there, not a Q-Guide or some sub-op position). -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (300-2400bd) (209) 754-1363 Visit my Commodore 8-Bit web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/commodore.html -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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Mag periph's drive info

by blindpete＠stratos.net

Hi every One I found a web page that was helpfull when I was looking for drive specs ect, it is: www.fdisk.com It has links to a lot of interesting pages, including links to hard drive manufactures and search for. Pete Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Registered

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LISA (fwd)

by yowza＠yowza.com

Respond directly to the seller, not to me, if you want his Lisa 2. If it turns out to be a Lisa 1, don't tell me about it :-) -- Doug ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:27:07 +0000 From: Rich Bull <rbull(a)post.cis.smu.edu> Subject: LISA Mine has a 5 or 10 meg hard drive....Its a completed system with mouse and keyboard and is in exceptional condition...neat little machine...If your interested I need $200.00 and you pay shipping... Thanks rbull(a)mail.smu.edu Richard E. Bull email: rbull(a)mail.smu.edu Information Technology Services voice: (214)768-3450 Southern Methodist University Fax: (214)768-9999 Dallas, Texas 75275-0262

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Never pass an $8 computer [Apple IIc swapmeet story]

by thomas100＠home.com

Hi, So I bought two Apple IIcs last year, one from at the Capitola Swap Meet for $8 with no power supply and a bad keyboard and the other at a ham radio swap meet for $15 with the cute little monitor, stand, power supply, TV adapter, printer and a bunch of other junk [Printshop and... what a thrill- typing tutor!] I bought the two machines some time apart from each other and was moving about the time I picked up the second. So finally today I found that the first one work while the complete system I bought is broken. Well... it's no problem since I can make one working model out of two. Fortunately the first one also has a case with no yellowing problem. The moral of the story: Never pass up a $8 retro-computer... even if it's broken and incomplete! Thomas

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RL02 ID number button

by wanderer＠bos.nl

>The encoding scheme is quite simple, actually, and the answer is that >you >can't make a 2 or a 3 from a 1 or a 0 > >The explanation is as follows. There are 2 pegs at the sides of the >lamp >cap, each with 2 edges (top and bottom). Each edge is either cut down >or not. > >An edge which isn't cut down closes a contact in the lampholder (there >are 4 such contacts, of course). An edge which is cut down doesn't. > >One edge is always present (not cut down). This contact tells the drive >that there is a cap fitted. > >The other 3 edges set the drive ID. One isn't used (it is on the RK07, >etc). The other 2 form a binary code, with the contact closed = 1. So >you >can change a '1' bit into a '0' bit by filing down the appropriate >edge. >But you can't change a '0' into a '1'. And the latter is what you'd >need >to do to make a 2 or a 3. Just unloaded the 11/24 from the car and did take the number plugs out. If the only problem is the edge, then applying a drop of 2 component epoxy glue and file the excess away after hardening should then do the trick, would is not? Edward -- The Wanderer | Geloof nooit een politicus! wanderer(a)bos.nl | Europarlementariers: http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer | zakkenvullers en dumpplaats voor Unix Lives! windows95 is rommel! | mislukte politici. '96 GSXR 1100R | See http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer/gates.html for a funny pic. of Gates!

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XEROX 860 IPS

by cad＠gamewood.net

Hi Folks: I was donated a XEROX 860 IPS. Portrait oriented Hi-Res display, 2 8" floppies. Keyboard with a circular 'touch pad' on the right end (of the keyboard) The Problem? I was just getting to the point of trying to 'backup' the software (disks), and look around in the system, and the 12v portion of the power supply died. No 12v, no boot. Anyone have any schematics for the power supply? Chuck . -- ----------------------------------------------------------- He, who will not reason, is a bigot; William Drumond, he, who cannot, is a fool; Scottish writer and he, who dares not, is a slave. (1585-1649) While he that does, is a free man! Joseph P. 1955- ----------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Davis / Sutherlin Industries FAX # (804) 799-0940 1973 Reeves Mill Road E-Mail -- cad(a)gamewood.net Sutherlin, Virginia 24594 Voice # (804) 799-5803

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OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was M

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Pete Turnbull wrote: > On Jun 30, 18:04, Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote: >> > Other people insist a microprocessor is one chip only. >> >> So I notice. But by that definition _none_ of the micro PDPs were true >> microprocessors, or at least none up until the 73. The Micro J-11 >> processor in the 73 was implemented as two chips on a large ceramic >> carrier. Was this also the case with later J-11s? > > Yes, it is. But if you allow a J-11 as a microprocessor, you must also > allow the F-11 (as in 11/23, 11/24) since it too has the complete CPU on > one (40-pin) carrier. The other devices that make up the chipset are truly > optional. You'd also need to allow the T-11 processor. I must admit I'd not met the T-11. I stand corrected. As for the F-11, hadn't I just agreed with Tony that a chipset like the F-11 was a microprocessor? Philip.

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OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was M

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 1, 17:41, Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote: > > As for the F-11, hadn't I just agreed with Tony that a chipset like the > F-11 was a microprocessor? Sorry, having rapidly skimmed a boxful of emails, i thought you were saying something *slightly* different :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was Macin

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Yes, I agree with that one. Slight grey area here - things like the <floating point unit in the LSI11 or the CIS in the KDF-11 - are they <part of the microprocessor chipset or are they coprocessors? Depends, For the KD11 it's additional microcode. For the KDF-11 it's either more microcode(EIS/FIS chips) or a FPU (FPP-11 board). <> Byt that definition, anything built out of TTL, 2900 series, 3000 serie <> etc is _not_ a microprocessor. Those chips have uses other than for What about the 29116? It falls right on the cusp I'd say. <So I notice. But by that definition _none_ of the micro PDPs were true <microprocessors, or at least none up until the 73. The Micro J-11 <processor in the 73 was implemented as two chips on a large ceramic <carrier. Was this also the case with later J-11s? Unknown here. You forget the T-11 which was a single die and a single 40 pin chip that was used on the KXT-11 series boards (falcon etal). Allison

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