- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

test

by blndpete＠raex.com

Hi every one this a test, I am just checking addresses. Pete Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Registered

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Mac Portable Progress

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

> 1. The portable won't accept a 1.44mb disk created with a PowerMac >but that contains System 6.0.1 (I get the disk with the "X" in it). I >thought that the drive was a 1.44mb disk. The Mac Portables did ship with 1.44mb drives, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's what yours has. I came across one once that had been replaced with an 800k. > 3. It will not accept an 800k disk formatted by an SE/30 which >contains System 6.0.1. > 4. It *will* accept an 800k installer disk, but it complains that the >disk contains a "minimal" script file, and that I need a "full" install >script. Arrrgh... So you actually get a happy Mac when you insert that disk? Have you tried a genuine System Tools disk? Tom Owad -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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Compaq

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Person tries to commit suicide using electric drill. Not fatal, >significant brain damage. Heirs sue and the award is in the millions. >Reason, does not say the drill should not be used for surgery. >Pilot and passenger die in 1947 Piper Cub afer crashing on take off. >Two fatal, payment over $25,000,000. Reason, no shoulder harnesses. This may be simply anecdotal, but keeping in mind the other two: Man (accidently) walks into spinning tail rotor of helicopter... his family sues because it wasn't placarded that it might be dangerous to walk into rotating blades... ("Think of it as evolution in action.") :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of ' ' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Overpriced ZX80

by higginbo＠netpath.net

Ya know, I sold one of these for about $15 one time, not too long ago, wait, mine was the ZX81. C'mon guys, let's all sell our computers on ebay! After we become billionaires, we can buy out microsoft and make Slick Billy lick our boots! :) At 10:20 PM 7/21/98 -0500, Doug Yowza wrote: >For your amusement: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=21496167 > >-- Doug > > - - john higginbotham ____________________________ - webmaster www.pntprinting.com - - limbo limbo.netpath.net -

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Compaq

by allisonp＠world.std.com

classic Safety things... LP25 gas springs that would die and drop the lid on the unwary head under it. Service engineer installing an RL02 in top of a mostly empty 50" cab has it topple forward and suffers injury. Reason, failed to extend and tighten anti-tip foot in the front of cab, disk installed against recommendations. Injuries include fracture and lacerations to leg. In the greater realm there are some that are near urban legend save for companies really paid for the frivilous though profitable(for someone) litigation of the 80s. Person tries to commit suicide using electric drill. Not fatal, significant brain damage. Heirs sue and the award is in the millions. Reason, does not say the drill should not be used for surgery. Two guys get drunk, decide they need to trim the hedges using gas powered lawn mower. Non fatal, loss of fingers. Suit paid out of court for 7 digits, reason; didn't say you can't use it for other than mowing lawn anywhere on the machine. Following years all sorts of blade brakes, kill switches and labels appear. Pilot and passenger die in 1947 Piper Cub afer crashing on take off. Two fatal, payment over $25,000,000. Reason, no shoulder harnesses. Special note: Private pilot didn't have required valid flight review for that two year period needed to exercise the privilge of pilot in command. The pilot did not have the required flight time in the previous 90 days to exercise the privledge of carrying passengers. The purpose of flight was commercial photography (private pilot cannot hire out). The plane was modified illegally and improperly to mount a camara for the purpose of the flight was the cause of the loss of visibility for the pilot. The FAA issued in 1978 a directive that all aircraft will have shoulder harnesses installed. Despite an illegal operation, non complying pilot and aircraft an excuse was found to force libility on the manufacturer of the plane of some 40+ years age. < 1. Discourage third party maintenance. Least of the worries. Not a competative issue in reality. Cost to repair was near cost ot manufacuture so they had better be cheap. < 2. Avoid having the problems caused by the #$%^&* plastic clips on the < VT100 breaking. Is there a cheap source of 'em for my pile of VT100's < I've been using bolts and crazy glue and nuts when needed. That was also a consideration. as time progresed better fasteners, cost driven elements and producability items would all instigate various solutions. Allison

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Vic 20 & Commodore 64 peripherals wanted (fwd)

by siconic＠jasmine.psyber.com

Does anybody have any C64 or VIC-20 peripherals to sell? Please see message below tag line. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)verio.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2! See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details [Last web page update: 07/21/98] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:47:50 EDT From: Ferock(a)aol.com To: siconic(a)jasmine.psyber.com Subject: Vic 20 & Commodore 64 I am looking to buy old peripheral equipment for the Commodore 64 and Vic 20. If you know anyone that is interested in selling these please e-mail me or give me a call. Thanks Glenn Ferock(a)aol.com 212-596-9184

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Wanted: Another magazine article series

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: Does anyone have a copy of the Tim Patterson (Seattle Computer Products) article series from Byte? I belive that it talked about DOS (...or QDOS or 86/DOS...). Thanks. Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin/CW6 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Preserver of "classic" computers <<<< ========== reply separator ========== >>>>>

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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

The whole movie makes ya wonder about the future of society. Can't a guy be nice any more without being gay? Annyway, for those who haven't seen it, a supermodel is frantically stabbing at the numbers on the dial, not knowing that the thing must be turned. What's a CLI? >(There's a great scene in In & Out involving a rotary phone... makes ya >think about the future of CLI's...) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > >Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad >roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." >Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates >San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years

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Mac Portable Progress

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Well, I made some progess with the Mac Portable today. Although I still don't know what the Sad Mac code $0F means (all the FAQs that I've read skip >from $0E to $10). Here's what I've found: 1. The portable won't accept a 1.44mb disk created with a PowerMac but that contains System 6.0.1 (I get the disk with the "X" in it). I thought that the drive was a 1.44mb disk. 2. It will not accept a 400k disk. 3. It will not accept an 800k disk formatted by an SE/30 which contains System 6.0.1. 4. It *will* accept an 800k installer disk, but it complains that the disk contains a "minimal" script file, and that I need a "full" install script. Arrrgh... Time to hit ftp.apple.com Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin/CW6 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Preserver of "classic" computers <<<< ========== reply separator ========== >>>>>

28 years

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Severely offtopic, but...

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I still don't get it. Anyway, while we're on topic, has everyone heard that the U.S.S. Yorktown's NT system crashed, causing it's engines to fail and forcing a towboat to pull it back to shore? The Navy is considering installing more NT systems; they won't install UNIX due to some protocol, not sure. Check www.osnews.com/news for the link to the story. >Do you know what Hello Kitty is? >If so, amuse yourself with the following... > >http://www.sanrio.co.jp/products/notepc/notepc.html >Ignore the Japanese, what you're intersted in is down a little ways. > >When they make one like Ami-chan's got, I'll be interested. >------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Compaq

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

This is slightly different. It is difficult to see spinning blades, and people in third world countries who aren't used to helicopters are known to injure themselves, not noticing them. Especially if this was the same guy who drilled his brains out :) I assume you've all heard of the Darwin awards... >>Person tries to commit suicide using electric drill. Not fatal, >>significant brain damage. Heirs sue and the award is in the millions. >>Reason, does not say the drill should not be used for surgery. >This may be simply anecdotal, but keeping in mind the other two: > >Man (accidently) walks into spinning tail rotor of helicopter... his >family sues because it wasn't placarded that it might be dangerous to >walk into rotating blades... > >("Think of it as evolution in action.") :-) > > Megan Gentry > Former RT-11 Developer > >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ >| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry zk3.dec.com | >| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com | >| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of ' ' | >| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | >| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | >| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years

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Compaq (off topic)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

That's dead, I'll replace it. Should I also change the black bar- shaped 7.5 v cell? It's dead too, and I don't know what it's for. >> The thing powers up off the keyboard, like a mac. I tried powering it >> off a PC SMPSU, otherwise loaded by the PC from which it came. The >> PSU was working fine, and I got correct voltages, even the right >> voltages on the external power connector on the laptop (I connected >> the wires to the battery terminals). And now matter how many times I >> pressed the on button, the #*%^)!$ thing wouldn't start. Ideas? > >I've seen this one several times. > >Check/change the 3V 'coin cell' - the disk-like lithium cell that's >hidden inside the machine. It's needed for the power-on switch to work. > >-tony > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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TI99: TIcK OS (a little to one side of topic)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< >Another is more complex but offers a few more possibilities. Use on the < >the interrupt levels and put ram at the rom addresses. The load vector < >can then be used to copy the ROMS from somewhere else to low memory. By < >doing this rom patching can be done or complete overlay of that 8k space < < Of course, but it also would require a *lot* of hacking to get done < and has some potential dangers. Mind you, P0 and P1 are free on the < 9901 and could be used as "page bits" for multiple segments of < ROM/RAM. Personally I like to keep things simple. Writing ROM < overlays is not fun and I'd rather avoid it. B'sides, if I can get < away with just using 2 *Very cheap* TTL components, so be it. I'll < still put POLLs in my software, but I'll include an IFD in my macro < and compile 2 versions, one with, one without. Not really. the trick used in 9900s is to use load to start a rom based program that copies itself to where ever needed and then turns itself off. The way I'd do it is to put a small rom at F000h and ram where the old roms were. The old rom can then be located at D000h with only a few bits (one) needed to turn off the old roms and the boot room. I do this all the time with Z80s to get the system totaly ram based but with the advantages of rom start up/restart. The trivial trick is to make it seem invisible. the big advantage is if you want to use the memory for something else you can but makesure to do a relod if you want things back to normal. I recently got an extra console that will be modified so that a pair of 32kx8s will map in to where rom, and 32kb expansion ram would be. IE: 0000->3fffh and A000->FFFFh. using 2 32kx8s keeps the chip count low even though 50% is wasted, besides they are cheap. The effect is the system could be much faster as it does not need the PEB access for base ram. I may want to yuse the full 64kb of the pars so I need to know how one of the larger cards like the corcomp 512k map. Do they do it as if it were multiples of 32k or are the two segments (2000->3FFFh and A000->FFFFh) mapped seperately or is it done in 8k segments? < Just a little FIFO would work well, but then, if the CPU bottlenecks < on data because it is physically too slow to even PROCESS the data, < such high data rates become useless and potentially dangerous. Not really it's a matter of buffering the data and post processing it when the tide slows or issueing an Xoff/suspend to stop the flow before the buffer overfills. This situation is nothing new, though in the world of CPU with clocks in the UHF region people may forget that. However the problems of data arriving faster than it can be processed is old hat. Besides with a ramdisk buffering a few kb of data is nothing. Allison

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How many computers?

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

Okay, for me it's easy: <http://www.sinasohn.com/clascomp/> 8^) Not listed is a "101 California" terminal, a Zenith keyboard terminal, Fujitsu Stylistic 500, Everex 386 Laptop, and the 128K mac, Altos 8000, HP 3000, HP 9000/310, and hp9000/345. Hmmm. And the odd 8-bit atari, and the MSX machine, and a few others that don't really fit into my collection. So, it's a little over 100, of which 80+ are portables. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

28 years

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Severely offtopic, but...

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Do you know what Hello Kitty is? If so, amuse yourself with the following... http://www.sanrio.co.jp/products/notepc/notepc.html Ignore the Japanese, what you're intersted in is down a little ways. When they make one like Ami-chan's got, I'll be interested. -------

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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< knowing that the thing must be turned. What's a CLI? < >(There's a great scene in In & Out involving a rotary phone... makes < ya < >think about the future of CLI's...) Command line interface... what you say to dos if ther isn't winders in the way. Allison

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How many computers?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 18, 22:53, Tony Duell wrote: > Subject: Re: How many computers? > > My friend reports that the Graduate doesn't have a BBC ROM, and indeed > > doesn't use the Tube. It uses the 1MHz bus to access BBC I/O, apparently. > > You know, I thought I remembered it having a 34 pin ribbon cable. (1MHz > bus, not Tube).... Time to dig it out and experiment. > > How on earth does the Beeb know it's there, though, without a ROM. > Acorn's MOS (the Beeb ROM OS) doesn't look for peripherals on the 1MHz > bus, surely?. I can't believe it needed a BBC disk as well... Yes, I find that very odd too. The address lines, page selects, and R/W signals on the 1MHz bus are unidirectional (direction: out of Beeb) so about the only things the Graduate could control would be the NMI, IRQ, and analogue input lines. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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classic computer list??

by lwalker＠mail.interlog.com

> > On Sun, 19 Jul 1998, Wayne Cox wrote: > > Hi, I was given this email address as being the "Classic Computer > > Collectors List." Not sure if it is a "subscribe to" mailing list or an > > individual. > > This is THE place 8-) Hope you got subscribed ok - if not - try again. > And stand back for about 50+ messages a day ranging from Z1 to the - well > latest thing (frowned on but never ignored 8-) > > > I have some antiquated DEC equipment I'd like to see find a > > good home and was refered here. > > Interesting thought - I mean IS there such a thing as an - > 'antiquated DEC equipment' > I thought not 8-) Your ISP is out of Ohio... Is that where the equipment > is? A list of what is available and where would help out a lot. > > > -Wayne Cox > > wcox(a)infinet.com, wcox(a)usaeroteam.com > > Once again - Welcome! > > BC > ========================================================================= > Name: Classic Computer Rescue List > URL: http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/1055/classic.html > (Collectors by areas) > Name: The Classic Computer Encyclopedia Page > URL: http://www.xnet.com/~danjo/classic/ > (Darn near dead - no input for about 6 months...) > Name: Classic Computer ListOp > URL: http://haliotis.bothell.washington.edu/classiccmp/ > (Hmmmm... Bill - ya want to move this to a working system?) > And don't forget Bill Yakowenko's classiccmp distributed Web-page archives at http://www .cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp and Doug Yowza's classiccmp FAQ backup at http://www.yowza.com/classiccmp Does anyone know if haliotis is still archiving ? My machine always hangs when I try and access it. ciao larry lwalker(a)interlog.com lwalker(a)interlog.com

28 years

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Compaq (off topic)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

The thing powers up off the keyboard, like a mac. I tried powering it off a PC SMPSU, otherwise loaded by the PC from which it came. The PSU was working fine, and I got correct voltages, even the right voltages on the external power connector on the laptop (I connected the wires to the battery terminals). And now matter how many times I pressed the on button, the #*%^)!$ thing wouldn't start. Ideas? >Surely you mean 170mA here. It's normal to charge at the C/10 rate, at >least when trickle charging. And I'd give it about 14 hours to make up >for losses in the battery (you never get the energy out that you put in). > >> If the 'float voltage of the battery goes over the 12v figure, that will >> cut down the charging current. The _best_ thing would be a milliammeter >> on the PS output, and a variac controlling input of the _big_ PS. > >Wait a second. I thought he was using a PC power supply. Those have >internal regulation. Hanging one off a Variac won't do a darn thing apart >from test the line regulation of the PSU. > >> >> Now, as to whether or not you can get away with the 'big PS' on the >> laptop instead of the battery? If at all possible, don't try. The >> battery is providing an imense ammount of conditioning to the incoming >> power flow. (There are amazing ammounts of garbage floating on top of >> the normal PS output. [everything from 'lightning induced spikes, on > >Every regulated power supply that I have ever seen has a fair amount of >internal filtering. Now while it's not a good idea to only load one of >the subsiduary outputs of an SMPS (and remember that in a PC PSU, the 5V >output is the main one, from which the regualtor sense lines are taken), >I think that noise on the output would be the least of your worries. > >> down to spikes from the local refrigerator turning on].) If you _must_ >> try, it won't hurt to throw a few thousand mfd of capacitor across >> things. Voltage wise, you are probably O.K. > >There's probably 2200-4700uF inside the PSU across the 12V rail. > >> >> Chuck > >-tony > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years

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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by ThisTime＠aol.com

Puh-leeze! With humour that consistently bad, let me make a suggestion. 86 the pathetic attempts at humour. Keep on topic without trying to be cute all the time. Ghia In a message dated 98-07-20 21:14:48 EDT, you write: << One thing that can be said for those ancient Western Electric clunkers is that they can't be killed, they can only be landfilled at a crossroad with a stake through the bell. Rumour has it that that after World War III the cockroaches will be able to use them to call Elvis. -- Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/> They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_ >>

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Old Phones (was: Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal)

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

While we're on the subject of old phones and phone systems, if you're ever in Edmonton, (Alberta, Canada) there is a pretty cool telephone museum there. Edmonton had something like the first phone system in Alberta or maybe even Canada. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 02:31 PM 7/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >> Believe it or not there are still many people out there with old >(ancient) rotary dial telephones. > >Hey, I still have one, in my computer room (ex-spare bedroom) at home. Got one next to my bed for my main #. Also got a wall mount around somewhere, just waiting for a good place to mount it. (There's a great scene in In & Out involving a rotary phone... makes ya think about the future of CLI's...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Off-topic informational anti-spam anecdotal

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 10:12 AM 7/15/98 PDT, you wrote: >A short refresher on human psychology. Most of the time, a clearly >thinking person does not do anything they consider wrong. Your spammer >thinks he is doing someone a favor, and your songs are disrespectful Nah, Spammers just want to get rich, without consideration of the cost to others. No different than if I went to Safeway, shoved a bunch of sodas down my pants, and left to set up a store of my own. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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(Fwd) Re: Tandy TRS80-Model II

by gram＠cnct.com

Lawrence Walker wrote: > To clearify, a Model II requires an additional CPU card. This is a MC68000 CPU > with a daughter card or two that may contain from 128K to 1 Meg of RAM. It > depends. There were several memory card configurations. I have some from > the 128K to the 1 Meg varity. The really rare ones are the 4 Meg memory cards. There was never a Tandy 4 Meg card. Bob Snapp had boards to take a 16 or 6000 up to 8 Meg, but the memory management permitted only a max of 1 Meg "user" RAM -- the rest could be used as RAM disk, permitting a /dev/swap far larger and faster than Tandy hardware. It was damned impressive to see his stuff at the Tangent conference in Fort Worth in 1986, 15 terminals (plus console) filePro databases faster than a stock system could with three users. > In addtion, You should have a HD controller. This card will have the WD1010 > or WD1020 chipset. It will allow you to attach up to 2 MFM drives. The > standard MFM cabling has one "Control" cable that is dasiy-chained to all > drives. Then the smaller "Data" cable is connected directly from the HD to > the drive controler card. I have not see a controler card that was able > to use more than two HDs at a time. All the Tandy manufactured card would > use the WD1010 chipset which allows up to 70Mb HDs. Some after-market > people upgraded to the WD1020 chipset which increased the HD capacity to > the 130 ro 150Mb range. I dont remember the exact upper limit although > they did not make MFM drives much larger that 150 Mb as I recall. All the > HDs should be free standing. Only a possiable drive select jummper should > differ the HDs in the external cases. Actually, except for the 6000HD which would only accept one external drive after the internal, all hard disk subsystems for the Model II/12/16/6000 line would permit four external drives, either all 8.4 Meg (the 8" Shugart "original" system) or any combination of 5, 12, 15, 35 or 70 MB (the later 5.25" system). At least that was the case with official Tandy hard drives.Those latter would also attach in quantities up to four to any of the Model One/3/4 product line or the Color Computer. That's what always surprised me when PCs and compatibles were limited to two drives, at least until SCSI and EIDE. -- Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/> They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_

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classic computer list??

by wcox＠infinet.com

Hi, I was given this email address as being the "Classic Computer Collectors List." Not sure if it is a "subscribe to" mailing list or an individual. I have some antiquated DEC equipment I'd like to see find a good home and was refered here. -Wayne Cox wcox(a)infinet.com, wcox(a)usaeroteam.com

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Compaq (off topic)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Sorry to continue, but I don't currently have newsgroup access and I have serached on the newsgroups for my problem via Dejanews. I decided to attempt to recharge my battery using a PC power supply. Will this work? The battery is labelled to be 12V, 1.7 Ahr. It's a NiCd. The power supply is 12V 6Ah. I'm doing it now, but I'm wondering how long I should leave it, or should I not have done it at all. Also, can I power the laptop with 6ah directly from the PSU though the battery is rated at 1.7 without frying it? No more questions about this from me. Thanks. P.S. does anyone know why this laptop has three batteries? THe main one that I was talking about above, a little black 2.7v NiCd like on a PC, and a round flat one like in a watch, only bigger. What's this last one for? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years

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Need info on classic iron.

by jeff.kaneko＠ifrsys.com

At 03:04 PM 7/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >2. Fortune 32:16, formerly running ForPro. Unfortunately, the boot drive crashed. He has tapes, >floppies, but no HD (I think) - is this worthy to be kept? The fortune 32:16 was one cool machine; it was way ahead for its time, so naturally, scarcely anyone bought them :-(

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Compaq (off topic)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Ok, one more question. This may seem dumb to you electronics experts, but when charging, should I attach the positive terminal of the AC adapter to the positive or to the negative terminal of the battery? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Transputer documentation required

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Okay, I just dug through my bookshelf, and found a 1986 inmos databook. Chapter 5 is "Transputer Products", and includes the following: Selection Guide (1 page) IMS T414 Transputer (16 pages) IMS T212 Transputer (12 pages) IMS C001 Link Adaptor (4 pages) IMS C002 Link Adaptor (4 pages) IMS B001 Evaluation Board (4 pages) IMS B002 Evaluation Board (4 pages) IMS B004 Evaluation Board (4 pages) IMS D100 Development Station (4 pages) IMS D600 Development System VAX/VMS (4 pages) IMS D700 Development System IBM PC (4 pages) OCCAM (2 pages) Let me know if you need info from this, and if it is urgent. Cheers, Bill.

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Thanks to the list...

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

> Dellett, Anthony wrote: > > > Well... I finally found one, I ordered a used Imsai 8080 from an > > undisclosed place in CA (they had one on consignment) and they're > > shipping it to me here in Boston. > > Not even gonna guess what shipping is cross country for that > heavy of a > machine. Does it work did they say? > Shipping was only $71, the guy is even foam packing it. I guess I can confess and say it's coming from Weird Stuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale. This is an as-is sale but I'm sure if it doesn't work, I can fix it :) Tony

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Need info on classic iron.

by buck_c＠polygon.com

A friend of mine has two systems that he needs to find info on. 1. Symbolics 3650 - this system boots into a wierd LISP command prompt, but complains durring boot about not being able to find the rest of the "world." Any info to help admin the thing would be groovy. 2. Fortune 32:16, formerly running ForPro. Unfortunately, the boot drive crashed. He has tapes, floppies, but no HD (I think) - is this worthy to be kept? Any help will be appreciated. I might end up adding these systems to my collection, right next to my 7 VAX systems. -- J. Buck Caldwell Engineer - Technical Support - Webmaster Polygon, Inc. email:buck_c@polygon.com phone: (314) 432-4142 PO Box 8470 http://www.polygon.com/ fax: (314) 997-9696 St. Louis, MO 63132 ftp://ftp.polygon.com/ bbs: (314) 997-9682

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Compaq

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

These hinges are metal, and there's no pointing device of any sort. Do you know the pinout of the power connector or not? > >I have seen more broken hinges on Compaqs than any other machine. In >fact, I challenge anybody to find a used Compaq Concerto that doesn't have >broken hinges. There's a thriving third-party industry in Compaq Portable >repair. As a result of this, it's fairly easy to find replacement parts >for them (but often at high prices). > >As far as ergonomics go, I give you 10 minutes of trying to use that >screen-mounted track ball before you throw the machine across the room. > >> have to agree with. Unfortunatley, the docking station was being sold >> for more than the portable. But, hey! You use one too! Hipocrite ;) > >I use Compaqs to practice my repair technique. I got a couple of them >recently in which the hinges had become degreased and stiff, so the owners >broke the displays off trying to use their laptops. I haven't found a >good replacement for the hinges yet, but re-greasing and reinforcing the >hinges with metal plates gives me working 486 laptops at around $10 each. >I put them to work as dedicated controllers and linux servers since their >power consumption is lower than an old desktop. > >-- Doug > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Compaq (off topic)

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

At 11:08 AM 7/20/98 PDT, you wrote: > >Sorry to continue, but I don't currently have newsgroup access and >I have serached on the newsgroups for my problem via Dejanews. >I decided to attempt to recharge my battery using a PC power supply. >Will this work? The battery is labelled to be 12V, 1.7 Ahr. It's a >NiCd. The power supply is 12V 6Ah. The power supply is probably rated at 6A, not 6Ah. 6 amps charging would be too much for an 1.7Amp hour battery and would greatly shorten its life. 200 or 300 mA would be much better. However, charging a 12 Volt battery off a 12 Volt regulated power supply most likely will not completely charge it, as the float charging voltage is closer to 13.5 volts. You need something designed as a charger to get the full capacity from the battery. -Dave

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Compaq

by icyblackhand＠hotmail.com

Just want to brag, like the rest of you about this weeks' find. A Compaq SLT 286!! Anyone know anything about it, how much it's worth?? Mike Sheflin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Remember that Compaq is the first PC clone maker and the first portable PC maker ever. I think that's not bad. >Bragging about Compaqs -- that's an interesting concept. Kind of like >being proud of pimples. > I doubt any of that is true. I mean, sure, they're not GRiDs, and I don't think this one is unergonomic. The power connector bit, I'll have to agree with. Unfortunatley, the docking station was being sold for more than the portable. But, hey! You use one too! Hipocrite ;) >Compaq is the leader in three areas of portable design: the world's most >fragile portables, the world's least ergonomic portables, and the world's >weirdest and largest variety of proprietary power connectors. > >The power adapter is pretty hard to find, compared to finding a >thrown-away LTE Lite. I've never seen the connector available as a >standard part. You can also power the thing from the proprietary bus >connector, so you might have an easier time finding a cheap docking >station to power/charge than finding/making an A/C adatper. > >Another alternative is a cool briefcase made for insurance adjusters that >was custom designed for the LTE Lite, and has an A/C plug in the >briefcase. You can get them for around $30 from Halted: > http://www.halted.com/ > >BTW, I need the flex cable that connects to the display of an LTE Lite. >I'll trade a battery for one. > >-- Doug > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Compaq

by jeff.kaneko＠ifrsys.com

At 04:06 PM 7/19/98 -0500, you wrote: >On Sun, 19 Jul 1998, Max Eskin wrote: > >> I also want to brag that I got a Compaq Lite-25 486. > >Bragging about Compaqs -- that's an interesting concept. Kind of like >being proud of pimples. > >> question: does anyone know what their power connector pinout is? It's >> a weird little three-pin thing like the compaq monitor power >> interface. Does anyone have plugs or know where to get them? > >Compaq is the leader in three areas of portable design: the world's most >fragile portables, the world's least ergonomic portables, and the world's >weirdest and largest variety of proprietary power connectors. > You forgot one category: Most difficult to open. The last LTE I tried to open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble. Jeff

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How many computers?

by franke＠sbs.de

>>OK, possibly the last entry in this thread. (Hey, I've been too busy to >>keep up with this list!) > Nope, I'm even slower at getting around to doing things... :) Not slower, courious before sending myself, but now: Meeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooooooooooo: Computer: KIM PC 100 (OEM AIM 65 from SIEMENS) PET (small and big Keyboard) CBM 2001 CBM 3016 (and several 40xx and 80xx) CBM SK 8296 CBM SK 8296D CBM 610 CBM 720 Commodore B500 (and some printers and floppies) VC-20 C64 (more than 10 - never counted) C64-II (C64C) C64G (and some 1541, 1570,1571 floppies) C128 C16 C116 Plus 4 Amiga 500 Amiga 1000 Amiga 2000 ITT MP-Experimerter SC/MP II EUROCOM I APPLE ][euro+ APPLE //c APPLE /// Lisa 2 Macintosh 128K Macintosh IIsi Macintosh LC II Macintosh Performa 630 DOS Basis 108 Ohio Superboard II TRS 80 Mod I Lv2 & Expansion TRS 80 Mod III & Hard Disk TRS 80 Model 4 Video-Genie EG2002 Colour Genie Olivetti M10 IBM-PC IBM-PC/XT Clone (And about 5 or 6 modern clones) SIRIUS 1 OSBORNE 1DQD Philips P2000C Pascal Microengine ATARI 400 (German and US) ATARI 800 (German and US) ATARI 600XL ATARI 800XL ATARI ST 520+ ATARI 1040 ST E ORIC 1 ORIC ATMOS Sinclair ZX80 Sinclair ZX81 Sinclair ZX Spectrum+ Sinclair Z88 Sinclair QL Your Computer (8300) Laser 50 Laser 2000 Dragon 32 Dragon 64 BBC Computer Yashica YC-64 (MSX I) Sony HiBit (MSX I) Philips VG8010/00 (MSX) S100-Bus Systems (several CPUs and so on) Eltec 80 SANYO MB 1000 Sharp MZ80A Sharp MZ80B Sharp MZ80K Sharp MZ811 Sharp MZ821 SWTP 6800 Motorola MEK6802D5 EXORterm (...), sowie ca. 15 weitere 6800, 6802 & 6809 Boards, ENTERPRISE 128 TA Alphatronic TA Alphatronic PC TA Walkstation 286 Superbrain HP 9121 Tatung TCS-4000 SIEMENS Mikroset 8080 SIEMENS 5521 SIEMENS PC 16-10 SIEMENS PC-D SIEMENS PC-MX (9780) SIEMENS PC-MX2 SIEMENS WS30-435(Apollo) SIEMENS PCD-3T SIEMENS PCD-4T SIEMENS PCD-4G 486er Clone Pentium. Terminals: TI Silent 700 TI Silent 709 Whisper Reader Mod 1951 SIEMENS 97801 (gruen && weis) EECO D400 Heazeltine 1000 (and several other) Taschenrechner: Newton OMP (OS 1.3 upgraded) Newton 120 (OS 1.3) Newton MP2000 Ti 74S SHARP PC 1211 SHARP PC 1241 SHARP PC 1250 SHARP PC 1251 SHARP PC 1261 SHARP PC 1430 SHARP PC 1500A sowie 14 nicht-Basic Taschenrechner. Videogames: ATARI XE ATARI Jaguar ATARI Lynx ATARI VCS ATARI VCS 2600 Philips G7000 MEMO TEST (and several early '80s junk :) Maybe sone are missing ... I never did a listing :( Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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QIC-36/QIC-02

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)servtech.com> wrote: > Aha! Now I can connect QIC36/QIC02.... My HP 250 uses DC600 type tape carts. Don't be too sure of that. If it's a 9144 drive or one integrated in a 79xx disc drive, it uses tapes that are mechanically the same but with a completely different format called HCD that predates the QIC formats and cannot be completely recorded in the field. THe format involves full-width block markers that can't be recorded by the heads in the drives. Bob Niland used to post something about this over in comp.sys.hp.* when someone popped the question. Go do a search in DejaNews for author rjn(a)csn.net in comp.sys.hp.hardware looking for the keywords QIC and HCD and you will probably turn it up. -Frank McConnell

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Compaq

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

>> Just want to brag, like the rest of you about this weeks' find. A >> Compaq SLT 286!! Anyone know anything about it, how much it's worth?? hmm, was there sarcasm buried in there or not? :) I've got one of those things somewhere... weighs about five tons and the battery lasts for about five minutes. Still, they were pretty well built machines, had mono VGA screens, the one I've got has a 42MB hard drive in it (which I suppose was pretty damn good for a laptop of that time). not really worth anything now (seem to remember they were over 4000 UK pounds when new - isn't depreciation great? ;) but you may find a use for it... (I suppose it has some nostalgia value for me - it was my first exposure to the world of PCs... I remember the hard drive on mine had been partitioned into two, and I spent months marvelling at a whole 12MB of space before I found the other 30MB ;*) cheers Jules >

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subscription info, dec equipment

by wcox＠infinet.com

Wow... those were some really quick responses, thanks! The gear I'm looking to unload is a PDP 11/35 and a VAX 750, both in the Dayton, Ohio area. Fairly big stuff to move if you're familiar with. I hate to barge in on a mailing list and ask newbie questions; But if anyone could point me to, or provide info on subscribing, FAQs, etc I'd appreciate it ! Me?? - - A 30ish hack, teeth cut on PDPs and Apples in the late 70's. Why is my 45000000MHz windoze machine so @!#$ slow ?!?!? -Wayne

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SoCal TRW Swapmeet

by jpl15＠netcom.com

A heads-up for any Southern CA GearHeads.. the TRW Swapmeet is this Saturday, the 25th, at the TRW El Segundo facility, from 7:30 am til 11:30 am. (Every month, always the *last* saturday) I have made many happy recoveries there over the years, including the $50 IMSAI 8080 / 4 8" drives/ tons o' software that I scored a few months back... and Marvin's Rockwell AIM with FORTH in PROM... as well as loads of electronic and radio-related Stuff. Anyone wishing more info, e-mail me direct... also it might be an Amusing Idea to have a bit of a get-together afterward... maybe? Just a (not original) thought... I have two permanent Selling Spaces... Items are cheerfully accepted for sale by you (unless they're bigger than my truck...) as long as I get Rights of First Refusal on yer jun^H^H^H merchandise. Cheers John

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How many computers?

by lwalker＠mail.interlog.com

This thread is becoming awesome!! OK I've been holding off. Since I'm the great procrastinator, I've been avoiding catalogueing what I've got. Synapsis is I've got 40 to 50 computers, heavy into Atari and PS2 Many monitors that I'm weeding out to keep the unique ones like the Radius Portrait for Apples or historic like the IBM 5151and 5153. Vic-20, C-64 ,C-64c, C128 Mac Plus, Apple II, IIPlus , IIe CoCo 1 and CoCo 2 TI 4/99 TRS80 model II with 3 physically huge 8 meg HDDs Phillips Micom 2000 dedicated WP with an 8" Shugart and a Qume daisy wheel printer that has a power supply big enough to power a small villiage. Epson QX-10 which I'm only missing a monitor to activate. Phillips XT Luggable with pop-up floppies. The nicest design I've seen yet for a luggable. Kaypro 2X that I haven't got running yet, but soon. DEC Rainbow, one of my first garbage finds that after 4 years I finally have the all hardware for. Last week a local store anti'd up a BC002 cable. Wang PC002 no means of I/O , but I'm sure it will turn up. NEC Prospeed 286 laptop Numerous other MSDOS boxes I think what especially interests me are the external hacks. Like the Intel Inboard 386 board.in a 5150, or the hardcard drives. I have a good proportion of the Atari and C64 add-ons. I have an X1541 cable for a C64. The adapter on my CoCo 2 that I still haven't explored its use. A Videomate to use my old boxes as TV's long before the new TV cards for Windoze. Of course you could do the same with a VCR and a composite video. Quickshot remote control Joysticks Some graphics tablets. These were all attempts to respond to a burgeoning home-computer market that were developed in response to consaumer wants. Many of these small but highly innovative companies quickly disappeared. The boards switches were not easily evident unless you had the documentataion So if the board cloned the IBM docunentation you're home-free but if it was a board that had anomilies, you're on your own. That to me is one of the values of this m-l . Having access to true hardware hackers like Tony Duell and Allison and others. ciao larry lwalker(a)interlog.com

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Sirius sound chips

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hi Tony and all, At 01:07 PM 7/19/98 +0100, you wrote: >Greetings... > >I'm got a partially faultly Sirius (aka Victor 9000?) on the bench at the >moment, and it appears to have (at least) a sound fault. > >Alas there are 2 chips in the sound circuitry that I can't find any data >on : > >Harris CI55516-9 (16 pin DIL, maybe a codec or similar) >Spague (?) ULN3701Z (5 pin TO220, audio amplifier). > Pin 1. audio input.(+) Pin 2. Feedback.(-) Pin 3. ground Pin 4. out Pin 5. Vcc Uses the same circuit as National LM 383. -Dave

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Looking for 2 magazine articles

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hi Richard and all At 08:41 AM 7/19/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, all: > > While going through the old Popular Electronics magazines that I >recently got, I found two article series that I would like to have complete, >but I'm missing two issues...bummer. > > Does anyone have the following and would be willing to mail me a copy: > > 1. Popular Electronics, March 1977, Part 3 of the "Build the >Cosmac Elf" construction article. > I have this one, it is 5 pages. The memory used is 8 2102 ram's. Don't have the first 2, August, 1976 or September 1976, however. -Dave

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Compaq

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I also want to brag that I got a Compaq Lite-25 486. This is not a classic, and I am about to go to Compaq's site to research it. A question: does anyone know what their power connector pinout is? It's a weird little three-pin thing like the compaq monitor power interface. Does anyone have plugs or know where to get them? >That's not terribly amazing. > >Its basically a Compaq 286 portable. Probably from around the 1986 or >1987 timeframe. > >What did you pay for it? That's what its worth (to you). > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ever onward. > > September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2 > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! > [Last web page update: 07/05/98] > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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mitsubishi <?> laptop

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

i did some bartering a while back and got a mitsubishi 286 laptop circa 1987 i think. it boots up to some post errors which i can get past by hitting F1. it's a phoenix bios, and i've tried every key combination thats's known to access the cmos setup, all to no avail. it appears to have a hard drive, but am unable to access it. i've web searched everywhere, but cannot find any support contact for this machine. i ended up round filing a mitsubishi 386dx machine last year because i couldnt find any info on it. i didnt even get any replies in comp.sys.laptops about this laptop. help anyone? david

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Transputer documentation required

by PeksaDO＠cardiff.ac.uk

I've a number of Transputer boards dating from the late eighties which fit into PCs. Whilst I can use any one single board, I've been unable to install more than one board as I've no information on the jumper and dip switch settings. Of course, some boards may not be capable of being anything other than the root transputer. Anyone have, or know where I can find such information on the following boards: Transtech TMB04 Sundance ST101 Gemini GM8101 Microway Monoputer2 Thanks, Doug.

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OS-2 FS

by mallison＠konnections.com

I can't find who was originally asking to locate some copies of OS/2. I just pulled down a copy of Warp (requires Windows already installed). The software comprises 2 floppies to install and 1 CD with the OS/2 v3 system and a "bonus" CD with IBM Works, Online access and 'more'. The CDs are still shrink wrapped. I can't verify that it's original but I know that where I picked them up would have no reason to re-wrap them. I have no burning desire to let these go but if the people who originally asked, or anyone else, REALLY needs it, I'll send them for 6.00 (six bucks) plus shipping. Unfortunately for everyone, I ran OS/2 v3 for a while when it came out. It turned a marginal machine into a hummer on the internet. It was probably an excellent OS, just not too popular. Please contact me direct at: mallison(a)konnections.com Thanks, Mike

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RT-11 Thanks

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Muchas Gracias to Allison and Megan and Tony (O My!) for your help with RT-11... the machine is running as I type this, and displaying a directory... all entries no later than 1979... just about the time I was spending long nights trying to figure out the Cromemco Z2H that I had pieced together... all I had was the monitor and 16K of RAM.. so I never shut it off for weeks... and a GE Terminet for a console, so at the end of a session the room was swimming in roll paper covered with hex.... Now to get the 2nd RK05 running.... THEN to figure out how to make the RL02s peacefully co-exist in the system... THEN to install one of my old classic modems, and write to my list friends from the DEC system.... THEN.... But first things first. Thanks again!! Cheers John

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Pertec tape interface for PC

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I picked up a nice, small, 9-track tape drive made by Qualstar for use with IBM PCs. The fellow I got it from said he had the ISA adapter and software and manuals "somewhere in a box". Of course, he can't find them, and it's the adapter and software that I'm really after, since Pertec-interface 9-track drives are fairly common. (I'd like to think this isn't the old "promise the important stuff to have someone haul away the big stuff" ploy, but it's happened to me several times now!) Pehaps someone out there has one, or knows the whereabouts of an ISA Pertec adapter, probably made by Qualstar, Chi Corporation, or Overland Data. Software and docs to go with it are almost mandatory, and anything that runs under DOS/Windows or any flavor of PC Unix is OK. Thanks, Dave

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