At 01:04 AM 7/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Joe wrote:
>
>> I tried holding down the R key and a bunch of others with no effect. The
>> error message that I'm getting says "No System file". I'm afraid the hard
>> drive has been erased. I don't have an external drive, is there anyway to
>> restore the system files without the external drive?
>
>Hmm, 'R' right after power-up should let you boot from whatever's in ROM.
>If that doesn't work, you might try either taking the hard disk out and
>accessing it from another box, or put a SCSI or floppy controller in your
>expansion box and try booting from another device ('F' would force a
>floppy boot, but I don't know if that works from the expansion tray).
>
OK I'll try that. Probably be a while before I have a chance though.
>> I didn't notice a ring. They were cigarette size boxs and marked "Grid
>> 120" and had a connector at one end.
>
>Those sound like the removable hard drives from my GRiD 1810, one of the
>made-in-Japan plastic GRiDs.
OK, Do you need some more?
Joe
>
>-- Doug
>
>
A buddy of mine just got a Mac SE Superdrive computer that he says has
a hardware pasword. Any ideas on how to disable it - jumpers, key
combos, pull the battery, software, what?
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In a message dated 98-07-29 12:49:59 EDT, you write:
<< I'm trying to setup the HPscanjet on my ps/2 and of course the startup
is complaining about the new interface. I have the refdisk for the ps/2
but not the required setup disk for the scanject interface. Any
suggestions?
Until I crack this the system will not boot with the card in place
unless, is there is a bypass procedure? >>
what you are missing is the .adf file for the option you installed. you need
to copy the .adf file to the reference disk and then run auto config. you
might want to post on comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware and see if anyone knows what
the filename is for the option you installed.
david
At 02:34 PM 7/28/98 -0600, you wrote:
>MacOS 7.0, and I THINK owning a mac gives you a license to an operating
system
>- although I'd have to check.
MacOS through 7.0 is freely available from apple, and can be copied
legally. 7.1 and above are still commercial products (not available for
free or legally copiable.)
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For Commodore 64 repairs, see Ray Carlsen's repair page at:
http://www.prismnet.com/~bo/commie/repair.html
Your specific problem may not be addressed here, but at the top of the
page, there are e-mail links to Ray. He is very knowledgable and helpful
on Commodore repairs. I consulted him via e-mail once for a broken SX-64
I picked up. He helped me get it working again. You can also get
schematics of the C64 at:
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/cbm/schematics/computers/c64/
Jeff Salzman
> Problem: I just noticed the C64 seems to have these dead keys '5, 7, 9,
>and 0'. Looks to me like a dead bit on the keyboard controller, but I must
>confess to ignorance on the internal details of how the C64 accepts key
>presses. Can anyone give an overview, and would anyone know of a fix?
>
I'll forward this to my girlfriend and let her answer it, she's the one
trying to get the thing to go :)
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Shoppa [mailto:shoppa@alph02.triumf.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 8:31 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: PDP Boot Loader
>
>
> > It dont work.
>
> You know, if you gave us more detailed information about how
> exactly it doesn't work (does it hang? Does it trap out?
> Do you get an error message?) we might be able to help you.
>
> > It might be something else but I wanted to check the boot
> > loader first.
>
> More details about the rest of your system might very well be
> in order!
>
> Tim.
>
Anyone heard of, or know any information about a Cromemco Model HD-11
7710 Hard Disk Memory System. I believe the hard disk was made by Disk
Sys Internation Inc. Someone recentley offered me one.
Any insight appreciated.
- Nick
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Happened to see on Ebay someone selling twenty 8" diskettes
of software for the Imsai 8080. Last I looked the bid was
only $10. Thought someone would want to know. If so here
is the link to it...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=23296702
By the way. I see where Ebay is going public with an IPO.
Does anyone know how to buy this at the IPO price? The
underwriters are Goldman Sachs and Donaldson, Lufkin and
Jenrette. I have tried to find a broker who can deal with them
but have not any luck
BW
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:48:30 -0400
> From: allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent)
> To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Subject: RE: ps/2 m50z setup
> Message-ID: <199807291648.AA02050(a)world.std.com>
>
> Please reply offlist as this is not a true classic. Well maybe as the
> scanjet is!
>
> I'm trying to setup the HPscanjet on my ps/2 and of course the startup
> is complaining about the new interface. I have the refdisk for the ps/2
> but not the required setup disk for the scanject interface. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Until I crack this the system will not boot with the card in place
> unless, is there is a bypass procedure?
>
> Allison
Allison,
It sounds like you need the .adf file for that particular piece of
hardware. Once the adapter definition is installed on your system
(think of it as a bios extension). Things should boot okay then.
Try NCRs site:
http://www3.ncr.com/support/pc/pcdesc/library/adfs.shtml
They have .adf files for all kinds of stuff.
Another decent PS/2 site with all sorts of general info is:
http://www.computercraft.com
--
Dan Rector
email: rector at usa.net
At 08:20 PM 7/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Joe wrote:
>
>> supply yesterday and fired it up today. It has a plasma display but I need
>> to find out how to get into the setup.
>
>There is no BIOS-level setup in ROM. You probably have DOS in ROM. Try
>holding down the 'R' key during the boot. If you get into DOS, look for a
>program named CONFIG or something similar. Things like drive geometry are
>hard-coded in the BIOS.
I tried holding down the R key and a bunch of others with no effect. The
error message that I'm getting says "No System file". I'm afraid the hard
drive has been erased. I don't have an external drive, is there anyway to
restore the system files without the external drive?
>
>> I also found a some GRID 120 plug in hard drives. I don't think they fit
>> the 1535 though or if they do I don't know how to install them.
>
>The number doesn't ring a bell. They're defintely not for the 1535,
>though. If they have a sort-of key ring thing on the end, they may be for
>the 1537 (TEMPEST model).
I didn't notice a ring. They were cigarette size boxs and marked "Grid
120" and had a connector at one end.
Joe
>
>-- Doug
>
>
This is the second time I am emailing support(a)compaq.com. Both times,
they have given me an automated reply that I should use
forum.compaq.com for the information they have posted, which might
be what I'm looking for. They warn me of the fact that their state-
of-the-art Internet technology (javascript and cookies) won't allow
me to use the site without IE3 or Netscape 2. So much for Lynx.
And all I wanted was a price quote for a new keyboard for the LTE I
got a few weeks ago!
I noticed some people on this list have experience with these things,
so
a)does anyone have any extra LTE Lite/25 keyboards?
b)Is the PS/2 port on the back for a keyboard? If so, can I use an
external kb without an internal one? I haven't had much luck so far.
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< How do you plan to digitize the recordings in the first place? I'd lik
< to do that too, but soundcards are pretty lousy recording devices. I fi
< it's a fundamental problem to have audio equipment sitting on a compute
< bus. I'd really like to see an affordable external D/A/D box.
the problem with most A/D and reverse is the resolution, the more bits
the slower they are. Also the source data wou;d be uncompressed and
hugely bulky. The better sound cards for PCs have the bits and the
speed. However you still need over 600mb of disk for some software
to "build" the CDR image.
Allison
Would some kind soul please send me an email with instructions on how
to sign up for this mail list? Thanks.
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Thanks for your time,
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My teasers cost me more money in the long run. I keep looking for
something in great condition and end up spending a little extra for the
first one I find in any condition for fear of not finding another one
again. Then for the next few months, all the low cost, great condition
units start becoming available.
Jeff Salzman
jeff(a)zymurgy.net
>>This is a tried and true technique (for me, anyway) for getting stuff you
>>want. Those teaser bits are what I call *bait*. I like to think that buying
>>part of something acts as bait for the rest of it. Frinstance, before I had
>>a Kaypro, I found a padded blue nylon cover for one at a garage sale for
>>two bucks. Of course, I bought it. Sure enough, a few weeks later a Kaypro
>>turned up at another garage sale. Maybe this is too metaphysical for common
>>sense, but it works for me. On the practical side, buying part of something
>>means that you can take advantage of a cheap price when you find the rest
>>of it that's missing the bit you have.
>>
>>Of course, it requires a lot of storage space for all the useless junk you
>>think might come in handy someday...
>
>Same thing held very true for me: find a piece of something and the rest
>will turn up later. I've got a _lot_ of pieces of electronic gear but not
>that many complete systems/units. Oh well.
>
At 09:33 PM 7/23/98, you wrote:
>I found a strange looking computer today. It's a Grid 1535 EXP computer and
>it has a extra pod that clamped on the computer. The pod contains a HP-IB
>port. There an empty slot to the left of the HP-IB port, what's it for?
Got one recently too. The 1535 is (iirc) a 386, the pod on the bottom is
an expansion box. Has two slots (though I've not yet opened it to verify
that they're ISA slots.) Pretty interesting doohicky.
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It dont work. It might be something else but I wanted to check the boot
loader first.
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Shoppa [mailto:shoppa@alph02.triumf.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 11:19 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: PDP Boot Loader
>
>
> > My girlfriend and I have a PDP with a Charles River Data
> Systems RL02
> > clone. Anyone know a boot loader for this puppy?
> >
> > (Funny thing is, Charles River Data Systems is less than
> two blocks from
> > my office, noone there knows anything about the drives :)
>
> Seeing how CRDS only made RL02 emulation systems for PDP-11 platforms,
> what happens when you try the bootstrap at:
>
> http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/p
> dp-11/bootstraps/
>
> ?
>
> Tim.
>
At 11:53 AM 7/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>ok, yet another Q for those of you out there who have run across these.
>anyone have a suggestion for where i might come across a ~20mb RLL
>drive? 3.5" size, don't have the model #'s on me at the moment although
What you're looking for is:
3.5" 20MB Hard Disk Drive (T3100/20)
JVC : JD3824ROTO
Number of heads: 4
Number of cylinders: 612
Average access time: 78ms
Recording method: 2-7 RLL
TEST/TEST3 setup type: 2
Dunno where to find one, though, other than another T3100/20. (And no, you
can't have mine!)
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Subject: RE: Teasers
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 7/29/98 1:36 PM
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Salzman, Jeff wrote:
> My teasers cost me more money in the long run. I keep looking for
> something in great condition and end up spending a little extra for the
> first one I find in any condition for fear of not finding another one
> again. Then for the next few months, all the low cost, great condition
> units start becoming available.
This should be in the FAQ because, however superstitious it is, this is an
adage that seems to be the case for many of us. Its sort of like a
Murphy's Law.
Sam Alternate e-mail:
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Is there an easy way to get rid of the black corrosion on the IC's of my
IMSAI front panel? I've been considering rebuilding it but if there is
an easy way to clean it then so be it.
Tony
Please reply offlist as this is not a true classic. Well maybe as the
scanjet is!
I'm trying to setup the HPscanjet on my ps/2 and of course the startup
is complaining about the new interface. I have the refdisk for the ps/2
but not the required setup disk for the scanject interface. Any
suggestions?
Until I crack this the system will not boot with the card in place
unless, is there is a bypass procedure?
Allison
I have recently come across a couple of video's at a thrift shop that were
fun to watch. One was called "In business with Macintosh" which was
probably from the early 90's and the other was an IBM video of a
conference in which they present OOT. Neither are "classic" in their
subject matter, but I was wondering if anyone has any that are. I would
thrilled beyond belief to see a promo video for "Lisa". I'm sure
they must have considering their efforts to sell the thing. Anything old
would be a hoot. IBM must have put out tons of stuff.
Colan
Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com> wrote:
> I'm really wondering if you guys are talking about the same thing I am
> here but I have a perfect condition HP 700/44 terminal with rs232 and
> current loop connections on back, with keyboard. I believe it's
> monochrome amber and emulates different systems.
No, they're not talking about the same thing. A 700/RX (I think) is
an X terminal, meaning it wants to talk X over a network (TCP/IP or
maybe DECnet, and yes it probably has an Ethernet interface built-in)
with X client programs running on other hosts. A 700/44 is a
traditional terminal that wants to send characters across a serial
line. In particular the 700/44 emulates a PC terminal and DEC
VT52/100/200 terminals. It doesn't do all that HP block-mode
stuff that I ramble on about sometimes.
-Frank McConnell
So, I went to the surplus depot today to dig around for good stuff. To
folks looking for NeXT stuff, sorry, none to be found today. Aside from
that, I *DID* find some cool stuff. If you're interested in any of this
stuff, send me private e-mail and maybe we can work something out.
(1) NCS Sentry 3000 Test Scanner (for grading scantron type tests)
$25
(4) DEC DEMPERs
$10/ea
(1) SummaSketch II Tablet
$40
I also ran across an HP 700/x X-Terminal. Does anybody know anything about
these? It looks like it will run a standard 15-pin VGA monitor. It's dirt
cheap and I'd LOVE to have an another xterm around the house. Any info?
Thanks
rob
through my parents Record collection and found a record that is Moog mus
< It was something I was looking for, as it was so unusual that I remembe
< when my dad brought it home over 20 years ago.
<
< Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows anything about what kind of hardw
< was used for this?
Most of the early Moog work was done an ANALOG synths using multitrack
recording as most were not polytonic machines. Names of people who did
commercial work were Wendy Carlos, Iaso Tomita and Claude Denjean to name
some in my collection (Vinyl). The classic was Switched on Bach, Carlos.
Some had primitive sequencers but it would not be until the late 70s that
the computer->synth connection would start to really get out of the lab.
Allison
Since we're on the subject:
I have a small synth that was sold at Radio Shack (Tandy) that is labelled
"Mini Moog Music" Are there any relation to the Moog we're talking about or
did they only used the name for marketting?
Francois
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I'm really wondering if you guys are talking about the same thing I am
here but I have a perfect condition HP 700/44 terminal with rs232 and
current loop connections on back, with keyboard. I believe it's
monochrome amber and emulates different systems.
This is the last (and best) of the batch I had for sale. I'd like $15
plus shipping for this one.
Also still have the Visual 102 terminal with keyboard in breat
condition, $10 plus shipping - but a little heavier.
The DEC VT 220 is spoken for and the DEC 100 is due to get gutted next
week.-
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< I hope it wasn't too obscure! I had an exhibit in the 1980 one which wa
< called the "Personal Computer Arts Festival". The music was the first da
< visual art the second. For your interest, the music program was:
Electronic music was a popular application in the 76-82 timeframe before
midi caught hold. It was activly followed and robotics was another group.
Allison
My girlfriend and I have a PDP with a Charles River Data Systems RL02
clone. Anyone know a boot loader for this puppy?
(Funny thing is, Charles River Data Systems is less than two blocks from
my office, noone there knows anything about the drives :)
Tony
Well, I finally got it.
Took it apart and found that whomever owned it previously already
mounted a power switch in the back and runs all the AC voltage thru
there.
There is alot of corrosion on the ICs in the front panel, I'm going to
need to spend some time cleaning everything up there.
One switch and two switch covers are broken but those are easy to
replace.
Four of the 100 pin card edge connectors need to be replaced (two are
just way too loose and corroded, the others are broken).
Everything else seems to be fine (the power supply is okay and supplying
the proper voltages).
Now all I gotta do is order all these parts and enough S-100 cards to
complete a CP/M system and I'm all set.
Wish me luck!
Tony Dellett
At 08:58 AM 7/27/98 -0400, Allison wrote:
>Electronic music:
>
>One item I reported I had was not from PCC-77 but instead an obscure
>event known as the Philadephia Computer Music Festival in 78. That was an
>effort of Creative computing. It featured music from:
>
I hope it wasn't too obscure! I had an exhibit in the 1980 one which was
called the "Personal Computer Arts Festival". The music was the first day,
visual art the second. For your interest, the music program was:
Hal Chamberlin, High quality music synthesis outside of real-time using
microcomputers.
Laurie Speigel, Computer Composition systems.
Rob Moore, The Apple orchestra.
Joe Wilson, Computer control of an analog synthesizer.
Steve Levine, A collection of computer music experiments for the hobbyist.
Bill Mauchly, A discussion of timbre in computer music synthesis.
Roger Meyers, A synopsis of computer music composition and techniques
>from MUSIC 5 to the Synclavier.
Rebecca Mercuri, Digital sound research at RCA.
Kevin Doren, The Crumar gwneral development system; a large scale
digital synthesizer.
Jon Bondy, The Casheab 32 voice synthesizer for the S-100 bus.
Stuart Newfeld, A disk based music editor and four voice synthesizer for the
S-100 bus.
Ellen Lapham, Charles Kellner, The Alpha Syntauri computer music keyboard.
Cliff Ashcraft, Frank Covitz, Enhanced software for music synthesis using the
6502.
AB Computers, The visible music monitor.
The evening concert was by:
Laurie Spiegal, Hal Chamberlin, Rob Moore, and Frank Covitz & Cliff Ashcraft.
Hal C. played (in real time, of course) Bach's T. and Fugue in D minor from
a 12.5Mb file, a lot of floppy swapping.
-Dave
Check this out. If you want to make a quick $90 on any VS3100's you've
got, this fellow's looking. I only have one left, so I'm hanging onto it
for now.
Attachment follows.
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>>Subject: WTB
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>>I'm looking for a VAXstation 3100 with ULTRIX installed. I don't need a
>>kb, mouse or monitor, since I already have a vt220 that I can use, but I
>>will need one of the special cables that you need to hook up the terminal
>>up to the computer.
>>
>>I don't have that much money (I've allocated about $140 for this), so I'm
>>looking for something that I can buy for around $90 or so.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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I recently got one of those combo drives -- the one with both a
5.25" and a 3.5" floppy built in. It is the Teac FD505... I
currently have a Teac FD-55GFV (RX33) on my RQDX3 at home... is
anyone familiar with the two drives? Can I replace eht RX33 with
the combo drive and get it to work? I've already tried simply
using it as distributed... and the controller (sorry, its the
RQZX1 controller, not RQDX3) sees the two drives. But when I
try to access either, they get directory read errors on disks I
know should work...
Any help appreciated...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>>>ard(a)p85ug1.demon.co.uk
>If it's any help, the AY-3-8912 is the AY-3-8910 with only 1 8 bit I/O
>port rather than 2 (and the AY-3-8913 has no I/O ports). The sound
>registers are identical.
>
>I'm sure I've got pinouts of all 3 devices, and descriptions of the
>registers if you need them.
I'm interested in whatever information you can provide... I've had this
for awhile, but have had no documentation or even code to drive it, so
I couldn't figure it out.
I worked with the MicroPower/Pascal people way back when they worked
on the star wars cantina demo, but I never had a doc set for the
board...
Any help MUCH appreciated...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of ' ' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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k
Oopsie... Sorry... PDP-11/23
(i even called her at work cause I couldn't remember wether it was the
23 or the 34)
Tony :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Fandt [mailto:cfandt@servtech.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 1:58 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: PDP Boot Loader
>
>
> At 12:35 28-07-98 -0400, you wrote:
> >My girlfriend and I have a PDP with a Charles River Data Systems RL02
> >clone. Anyone know a boot loader for this puppy?
> >
> >(Funny thing is, Charles River Data Systems is less than two
> blocks from
> >my office, noone there knows anything about the drives :)
>
> Tony, tell us what PDP model it is! (PDP-11/23 or -11/44 or
> PDP-8/E, or
> etc. etc.)
>
> Regards, Chris
> -- --
> Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
> Jamestown, NY USA
> Member of Antique Wireless Association
> URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
>
Someone mentioned staroffice. Do they still offer 3.x for download? I
couldn't find it anywhere, though Caldera is selling 4.0 for $20. Where
is the website? I thought it was www.stardivision.com.
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Was there a puck with this? I have a Summasketch something-or-other, and
I want to know how the puck works, pinout, etc.
>(1) SummaSketch II Tablet
> $40
>
>rob
>
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> Somewhat more back on topic , Megan let slip that you designed an
>interface for the "Mark 11". Would it a major undertaking to build an A-D
>converter to take the VCO off an analogue synth and convert it to MIDI
>or to sample or record it ? And my ST is over 10 years old !! : ^ ))
Actually, the 'MK10' stood for 'Music Kludge - 10' and apparently
consisted of something attached to the accumulator lights (which
the software flashed on and off at the appropriate fequencies).
We called our board the MK11-B (Music Kludge - 11, revision B). The
Rev A was my initial circuit which was one SGC driven by a DR11C on
the pdp-11/10 I have at home.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of ' ' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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I been in yer shoes.
The color NeXT Station used either a proprietary keyboard/mouse
interface or ADB versions. I'm not sure how to figger out which is which
but the guys at http://www.deepspacetech.com/ would, plus, they carry
the other stuff you're gonna need to get the sucker up and running (like
the OS).
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Eros [mailto:Anthony.Eros@digital.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 1998 7:21 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: NeXtStation TurboColor
>
>
> I picked up a NeXtStation TurboColor box today at a hamfest.
> A kid had
> just bought 3 monitors, 4 boxes and a small stack of manuals and sold
> me the extra system box for $25. No memory or hard disk and
> (of course)
> no monitor, cable, keyboard, mouse or software.
>
> Does anyone have experience with these systems? Any tips on getting
> the pieces needed to get it running?
>
> -- Tony
>
They start most items at 1000. I know where you can get an imagewriter
printer in a clear plastic case with serial #1000.
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Owad [mailto:tomowad@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 1998 6:22 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Apple Prototype Keyboard
>
>
> I just acquired two Apple prototype keyboards. The
> keyboard is very
> small with no frame and only 58 keys. They hvae stereo-type
> connectors
> on them, as oppose to ADB, and I have an adapter box to hook
> them up to a
> Mac Plus (and they do work, btw).
> According to my "AppleDesign" book, they are "Cassie" keyboards,
> co-designed by Mannock and Esslinger for the SnowWhite Project. Does
> anyone have any further information on these keyboards? And how do
> things like this get outside of Apple? I'm under the
> impression Apple
> doesn't exactly give this kind of stuff away.
>
> On the back the keyboards read:
>
> [logo]apple
> apq
> Development Engineering
> PROTOTYPE
> S/n# Model#
> 1012
> (the other says "1032")
>
> Does Apple start numbering at '1' or '1000'?
>
> The keyboard, btw, is obviously a prototype. The whole thing
> seems quite
> flimsy and the keys are all angled slightly differently.
>
> Tom
>
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>
< I, too, have the Bermuda Triangle LP, but if I remember correctly I have
< copies -- one pressed in pink vinyl and one pressed in blue.
Mine was plan vinyl (black) a later copy.
< As an aside, My personal favorite of the early synth years is Larry Fast
< Synergy project.
I have those too. Electronic realizations for a rock Orchestra.
Allison
< Originally, the Altair (S-100) bus did not define a need for termination
< any kind. It was not until things on the bus started to speed up (usin
< DMA and such) that anyone apparently thought about it.
The altair bus was never specified, nor engineered. IF it were it would
not have been built that way.
It was more like people tried to makes them work and found the crashed
often and without apparent cause. Other people found if the move the
boards from one slow to another would make a program crash. Using an
extender card crashed the system. Most all found as they added memory the
system would get more or less stable. I was one of the early ones looking
at the data lines mostly if horror with my scope. Of the handfull of
computer people in the LI, NY area at the time I was one of the few with a
scope.
< Can't hurt. I will say however, I do seem to recall seeing a board or t
< that would not run on a terminated bus, but that has been so long that
< don't evem recall what it was.
There were a few really badly designed boards that couldn't drive the bus
at all well and tended to also aggravate the noise situation.
Allison
Just purchased three Zenith Data Systems laptops at a Hamfest - my
first IBM-compatible computers, believe it or not (always focused on the
Apples & under-the-TV 8-bit systems).
Needless to say, I don't know a thing about them. There are no power
adapters. I have a 12v 300 mA adapter. Will that work with them? I
hooked it up to all three systems - 2 of them didn't do a thing. The
third "spins" up and I can hear a very faint wining noise from inside.
The monitor, however, shows nothing (could this be due to too little
amperage?). The computer gives a three-tone beep every 15 seconds or so
(estimate) and beeps whenever I press a key.
Anybody have any suggestions? Like I said, I don't anything about
these, so any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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>>> [Linux World Domination]
>>> Y'know, once we get that user-friendly stuff happening, we're gonna
>>> kick windows's ass.
>>> User friendly + reliable + free = the next killer O/S.
>>> Windows will simply have no way to compete and still turn a profit.
>> One name: ApplixWare. Go find it and install it. That'll provide you
>> with all the user-friendliness you want.
> Yup. Redhat Applixware running under Caldera 1,2 with Redhad/Triteal
> CDE. Beats the crap of my NT system at work with Office '97 in both
> user-friendly and stable. IMAO of course.
Ever tried KDE - IMHO the best attempt to get a whole
desktop environment - and its public. (And try StarOffice
as office suite -> you'll never think again about MS,
especialy since SO is also availabe for Win3.1/95/NT
_and_ OS/2).
CCob:
Ever tried (DR-)DOS and GEM ? _TONS_ of good old and some new soft!
Gruss
H.
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HRK
Is it possible to take a "standard" svga type lcd display and wire it
to a typical SVGA video card? How does it differ inside a laptop that
has both an external SVGA adapter and the internal LCD connection? I'd
love to use some of these LCD displays I have in some systems. any info
would be appreciated.
-Eric
< I still have one prototyped at home... it allowed up to 9 voices
< (three voices/chip, 3 chips) of sound, and 3 voices of percussion.
I happen to have the DEC internal card for the Q-bus Ey-0105E-ms-101
(AKA Gigilo), uses two GI-AY-3-8912 sound chips. I also have some of the
PDP-11 software to drive it.
I don't have a schematic for it or the specs for the sound chips however I
do have a few sources for the music play software (asm a upower pascal).
I also have the honor of meeting Carlos in an old wherehouse and sound
lab on Long Island back in 1973 when the company I was with was moving
in to the facility. There was some amazing old junk left behind like
old audio power amps with 807s and 813s... It was just down the block
>from SUNY farmingdale.
Allison