Hi,
My Micro's power supply blew and I wanted to be in a fullsize cab anyway.
Can I bolt my Micro/PDP11 Q22 backplane into an 11/03 chassis easily?
Anyone know about feasibility / gotchas before I start experimenting?
thx
jake
I got the power cord for the microvax 3800 in the mail today. I checked the
fans as someone suggested, they Spin nice and smooth. I Iooked over
everything, nothing seems out of place. I powered the machine on. Very
quiet. I expected it to be much louder.
I turned the machine on and nothing exploded.
The KA660 cpu board has that little red lcd display ion it. A F is
displayed. Not sure if that is normal or not. I need a console cable. I
have a vt100 that works over here. What is the cable called, is it
something i could buy, or is it something that is easy enough to make?
--Devin
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:37 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> "So a 9-track open-reel SCSI drive should work just as well as a DDS,
> DLT, SLT drive."
>
> Oh wow. i had not even considered that. I have a pdp 11 with a beast of a
> 9 track tape drive in is's own rack, that would be interesting if i could
> get a scsi tape drive for the vax and use some big tapes to move data
> between the two.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-12-08 17:02, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-12-07 20:36, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7 December 2015 at 14:29, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think all (modern PDP-11) OSes can install from TMSCP tapes. RSTS/E
>>>>> is
>>>>> more picky than some others, though, if I remember right...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, RSTS/E installs from TMSCP just fine (as can RSX-11/M+); I know
>>>> that in simh you can bring up Ultrix-11 3.1 only on TMSCP
>>>> (specifically a TK50), at least if you want all of the packages to
>>>> install. I've installed RSTS/E 10.1-L from MASSBUS, TS11, TM11, and
>>>> TMSCP in my various experimentation with emulation, it really doesn't
>>>> care what the tape is as long as your SYSGEN device is consistent.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One detail on "it doesn't care what the tape is": RSTS kits on 1/2 inch
>>> tape come in 800 and 1600 bpi versions. They have different boot blocks,
>>> each of them designed to work with all tape drives/controllers supported on
>>> RSTS that support the density in question. For example, the 1600 bpi kit
>>> doesn't boot on a TM11 controller, and the 800 bpi kit won't boot on a
>>> TMSCP controller. This matters if you try to boot one in an emulator where
>>> physical tape density doens't have any meaning.
>>>
>>
>> Unsubscribed from cctalk now, so I'm not sure if this will get through or
>> not.
>>
>> The RSX installation tape should boot from all tape devices, no matter
>> what density. The disk boot blocks are somewhat more specific. MSCP sits
>> together with massbus and RK06/RK07. RK05, RL01/02, RP02/03 as well as P/OS
>> drivers are separate boot blocks. Of those, only the RL02 is actually
>> supported by M+. So in practice, you only see one of two disk boot blocks
>> around for M+. 11M use pretty much anything, I'd think.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>
>
> Er nope it just refers to android
>
> R
He didn't include a signature in that message. Try looking at an earlier one.
Here's another explaination.
When someone receives this message, where are they supposed to start reading?
They have to rummage through to the middle to find where it started, read
the question originally asked, read down to see my answer, jump to the top to
read the request for further clarification, read further to see my reply to
that and so on. This gets really tedious when trying to follow a discussion.
Top posting may work ok for emails between individuals, assuming they can live
with only reading the first few lines of each mail. On a mailing list, it's
too much to assume that everyone will have archived all the mails that went
back and forth on the particular topic and will be immediately familar with
all the discussions that might be in progress at any one time. When someone
receives a long mailing list posting starting with (for example):
"When I tried that, I got smoke coming out of the power supply"
there then follows a session of jumping up and down through the email trying to
find exactly which piece of advice the poster was following when they got this
result. To do this, they have to find the points in the email where to jump
backwards and forwards. Sometimes there are clues such as included headers.
Sometimes there aren't. Sometimes the headers have dates in US format or non-US
format that looks like US format and times in various miscellaneous timezones
making it really hard to tell which not very well defined section was posted
before which other not very well defined section. Sometimes there are no dates
or times.
Then the list owner politely asks people to try to follow a particular
procedure and the response ranges from "I won't!" to "I can't!" to "Why should
I!" to "Look, I can be even more irritating if I really try harder!".
It appears that the main concern for some posters is "How can I get my crucially
important (to me) posting to the most recipients with the least effort on my
part?" Would it not be nicer if we could all be more concerned with "How can I
make my posting as useful and easy to follow as possible for most recipients?"?
Maybe some people might prefer to be on a write-only mailing list?
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 10/12/2015 12:28, Peter Coghlan wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about.
>> The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants.
>> In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with
>> the list of messages
>>
>> Decmail did this from its inception as did the IBM, HP. etc mail systems.
>> I can't understand what the fuss is about. Please explain
>>
> The explaination in the signature in some of David Griffith's postings is about
> the best and most succinct I've seen.
>
> Regards,
> Peter Coghlan.
*sorry a copy went out prematurely...
So I got my hands on an HP 88780 1/2" Tape Drive from list Member Mark
(Thanks!). The drive physically looks to be in good shape but was pretty
dirty when I got it. I've cleaned up the drive and powered it up.
The good news:
The drive powers up. Initially I had trouble getting it to load a tape but
that seems to have been resolved. The BOT, EOT sensors are good and the
basic drive mechanism (motor, eject, etc.) seem to be working.
The bad news:
Some of the front panel buttons are not working. Running test 72 shows
failure in the unload/rewind and online buttons. Luckily it seems to be a
mechanical problem. If I short the switch on the circuit board then the test
passes. The switches are mechanical push buttons that are soldered on so
should be easy to replace. Anyone know of a good or OEM equivalent
replacement? If need be I can get pictures of the buttons off the PCB.
The worse news:
The tape drive will not read/write. I ran test 01 which per the service
manual does a full general checkout of the drive. The test is a conglomerate
of other test routines. It fails when it tries to run test 177 (Buffer Write
Density ID). This is where I am currently stock and need advice on how to
proceed.
Any help is appreciated. TIA
-Ali
Calling All Panel Fans
In my panel picture gallery I have the following:
8/e type A
8/e type B
8/e (galway)
8/e (maynard)
8/f (maynard)
8/f (galway)
8/m (maynard)
8/i (-----"-----)
8/l (-----"-----)
8/s (-----"-----)
11/20
11/35
11/40
11/45
11/50
11/70
Scans/Pictures of anything with a perspex/plexiglass or similar front panel
not listed above would be most welcome
If possible I would prefer an attachment as opposed to a link
Thanks Rod
At 11:47 AM 12/10/2015, Ian S. King wrote:
>Ooh, another email formatting rant thread!
It is not the formatting that is the crux of the matter - it is the lack of editing. If someone can't be bothered to edit his message quotes I can't be bothered to read his messages. I have a low tolerance for those who ignore or who are ignorant of basic reflector netiquette.
Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html
Alexandre,
I have the SCSI pre-processor too, but not the precious software that goes
with it. Do you happen to have it? I'll contact you offline.
Marc
> Alexandre Souza wrote:
> A proper HP16500C or better (series 17000) is way cheap nowadays.
> [...]I don't know if there is an IDE analyzer for it (I have it for SCSI)
> but you can look for it.
It was written by two people....
---------------------
>> I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
>
> also
> Michael Dell
> Carly Fiorina
> Mark Zuckerberg
> Sarah Palin
> Meg Whitman
> Paris Hilton
> Bill Gates
>
And he is one of the smartest finatual men in the world and soon he will be
your pres.... CRAZY hmmmmm.
----------------------
Starting a political discussion on this list is a surefire way to get
banned. Keep it somewhat on topic please.
J
I just recently had a RXV21 board that I inserted into the backplane and
then completely hung a few bits on the bus. It was a DC005 bus transceiver
chip that had failed.
First it seemed impossible to find such a chip, but then I recognized that
Signetics had put their own code own them as well, C2324N.
Searching on Ebay gave this result: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281679682476
I bought some and they just arrived and worked perfectly.
/Mattis
While I'm new to speak up here, I've been watching for a while. I've also
used the name "MightyFrame" on groups, although that email address is not
registered with this list.
A few months back, I published a page decoding QIC-24 format.
http://mightyframe.blogspot.com/2015/08/qic-24-tape-data-block-format-decod…
Dwight posted a very meaningful response to this about the CRC on my site,
and it has taken me this long just to get to it. Thanks again for that,
Dwight!
This project has gone very well for me, with one hangup...the CRC.
I've never calculated one of these before, and I'm struggling with this one.
I have a QIC-24 block of data attached in a .txt file, and I just can't get
the calculations to work.
For my simple understanding so far, I'm using an online calculator to test
this:
http://bit.ly/1YbHUZ7
That URL is pre-programmed with the polynomial and the "message" that
should provide the CRC result of
0xE8CE (decimal 59598)
But, it doesn't.
I created this file, wrote it to tape, then read it again and tested it.
It is 100% correct for the QIC-24 tape system. This is block 3 of 4 of the
file that I have extracted, and am testing here.
The ANSI QIC-24 standard booklet (X3.136-1986) says something that I know
is a clue, but I just don't understand.
"The cyclical redundancy check (CRC) shall consist of two bytes, calculated
over the 512 bytes of interchange data, and the 4-byte block address, *starting
with all ONEs, CRC initial value*, and using the CRC Generating polynomial:
x16 + x12 + x5 + 1
*"starting with all ONEs, CRC initial value"*? What does THAT mean? Do I
need to do some kind of register shift? xorin or xorout?
I've even played with http://reveng.sourceforge.net/, but I'm having
trouble even understanding the meaning of the input values and parameters
with this.
I appreciate any feedback that anyone can give, here.
--
Thanks,
-AJ
http://MicrotechM1.blogspot.comhttp://MightyFrame.com
>
> This is a bit like the old toilet seat up/down argument...
>
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Jay West wrote:
>
> > Please make an effort not to top-post :|
> >
> > J
> >
> >
After reviewing the 61 posts from the list I received this morning, I can only
conclude that Johnny Billquist had the right idea.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi All
I am working on a new special project.
I can't reveal what it is yet.
But I can tell you the bell is finished in polished brass with
electromechanical striker
and the whistle has its own air supply.
Rod
If you understand this and you are not out to grass (retired) like me
you may want to consider it.
What is your favorite CREEPYPASTA?
I read one tonight called exploration of room -B. . .
What are your fav'z? I am not a fan of the ones about games or the lame
ones like Jeff the killer, Slenderman, Five nights at Freddy's ecp for
the one called " The one in Crystal Cove".
I am a big fan of Natenator77 and Otis Jiry "Chilling Tales For Dark
Nights"!!!
For those of you who do not know what creepypasta's are google it ot
check out creepypasta.com . .
I think this will be a great thread!
Does anyone here still use Apple Works for day to day use? I find it
very useful it has a great word processor and a database / spreadsheet
I use it to write Creepypastas in my Motorcycle shop late at night.
many high paid cios started with a vic 20 or a c 64!
everyone has their treasured first....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/9/2015 11:34:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
mhs.stein at gmail.com writes:
Surprised to see so much interest in C64s on a 'serious' list...
m
In the 1970s, some microprocessors and support chips used four-phase
NMOS logic. Some, including the Rockwell PPS-4 and PPS-8, generated
the four non-overlapping clock phases on-chip based on two external
clock inputs, while others, including the TI TMS9900, the Western
Digital CP1600 chip set (used in DEC LSI-11 and Alpha Micro AM100),
and the WD9000 chipset (used in Pascal Microengine), required an
external four-phase clock generator. Typically the four-phase clock
inputs required a voltage swing close to the Vss and Vdd supply rails
(0 to +12V). TI and Western Digital offered support chips to generate
the four-phase clock, although it was often done with a crystal, 74S
logic, and MOS drivers such as the National Semiconductor MH0026 dual
MOS driver or the Intel 3245 quad MOS driver.
I've recently had occasion to work on interfacing to some of these old
chips, and wanted a modern four-phase clock generator. I've just
written and tested code to use a Microchip PIC16F1575 as a clock
generator, though it only has 5V outputs, so it will require external
gate drivers, such as a Microchip TC4469 quad gate driver, to obtain
the 12V swing.
The PIC16F1575 is a fairly new part using Microchip's enhanced
midrange core. It is in a 14-pin package, has an internal oscillator,
PLL, and four 16-bit PWM modules. The PWM modules can operate
independently, but for this purpose it was convenient that they can be
synchronized.
I've configured the PIC to use the 8 MHz internal oscillator, with a
4x PLL for a 32 MHz clock going into the processor and the PWM
modules. The CPU speed doesn't matter, but that gives timing
resolution of around 31ns for the PWM. I've configured the PWMs for a
period of 16 clock cycles (500 ns, 2 MHz), clock high pulses of three
clock cycles (93ns), and delay between phases of one clock cycle
(31ns). This could be trivially changed to a 2.67 MHz clock by
reducing the period to 12 cycles and hte clock high pulses to two
clock cycles (62ns). Either set of timings is within the
specifications of the TI and Western Digital parts.
A word of caution: when using gate drivers to drive old NMOS parts, I
recommend the use of series resistors of at least 10 ohms and schottky
diode clamps to Vss and Vdd, to ensure that undershoot and overshoot
(due to ringing) are limited to 0.3V.
The C source code is released under the GPLv3 license on github:
https://github.com/brouhaha/4phaseclk
I help cleaning out a large repository of DEC parts.
There a quantity of DEC core module assemblies appeared.
According to PDF docs these must be PDP-15 MM15's, but no labels are on
the boards.
I show/offer some of them at
retrocmp.com/flipchipshop ,
under "core memory"
Can somebody confirm they are MM15's?
Are any PDP-15 running at all?
Thanks,
Joerg
The manual u cited states, "The disk controller can control either a CDC or Finch drives. All drives attached to any controller must be of one type." I'm not sure what they mean by "CDC" but if u are lucky it might mean "SMD."
According to the 1983 Disk/Trend Finch interfaces were available on the Wren 9415-32 (Finch and ST506) and the Wren 94153 (Finch only). So u might look for a 94153 or a Finch variant of the 9415-32.
The Finch spec data interface specs include 13440 unformatted bytes per revolution using an 806 KB/sec data rate, which are the very old at that time 3330 industry standards. There are very few small drives that use this standard, not even the 94153 (10,080 @ 605 KB/sec) so what happens with the drive at a different frequency and the controller with a possibly a different number of raw bytes per track is unpredictable. Note that 10080 x 806/605 is close enough to 13440 so any 10,080 @ 605 KB/sec drive might be made to work if the recording channel has margin at the higher frequency; unfortunately there are not very many.
A bigger problem might be the command and control interface of the Finch - it is not like the ST506/412. Off the top of my head it looks like a variant on SMD. BTW SMD data specs are exactly 1.5x3330, that is 20,160 bytes @ 1.209 MB/sec so a small SMD might work if the recoding channel can deal with the lower data rate, perhaps the 8715 FSD. You might want to compare pin by pin SMD to Finch to see if this is even possible. There were some small SMDs, e.g. Micropolis 1403, Priam 804 but most were 14-inch.
Perhaps there is a CDC SMD expert in this group that can help
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Lehmann [mailto:lehmann at ans-netz.de]
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 11:39 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Evotek Winchester Harddisk
Tom Gardner <t.gardner at computer.org> wrote:
> Sorry If I didn't make myself clear, I am suggesting one never acquire
> an Evotek drive today other than perhaps as an historical curiosity.
>
>
>
> The Finch was a short lived 8-inch HDD that went up to 42 MB
> unformatted BUT according to Disk/Trend It did not use an ST506
> interface but instead came with this variety of interfaces: Finch,
> LDI, SMD or SA1000! So your problem is likely to be finding a drive
> that matches the interface of yr controller card. Some possibilities
>
> Finch interface was available on certain CDC Wren 5 -inch
> models, e.g. 9415
>
From what I understood in the Zilog System 8000 manuals, it is the Finch interface.
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/zilog/s8000/03-3237-04_hwR…
Page 33 - Drive Performance Characterstics Page 47 - Pinout of the WDC-Controller Disk Connector Page 65-69 - Describing Driver Configurations
Here are pictures of harddisks used in the System 8000:
http://pics.pofo.de/gallery3/index.php/S8000/Harddisk
And this is the so called "FINCH Adapter Board" used in the S8000:
http://pics.pofo.de/gallery3/index.php/S8000/S8000_boards/FINCH-Adapter-Boa…
>
> This is a laughable ask, I realize that- but I'd really like to find a
> PERQ.
>
> Anywhere in the US and Canada is fair game. I am prepared to work on one in
> any condition, and am okay with any model.
>
> I'm definitely not asking for a handout and would like to negotiate a
> reasonable price. (I am aware of the rarity!)
>
> Please contact me off-list if this is a possibility.
>
> For reference, I am located in Seattle, WA.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Ian
>
I know there are 4 or so in your area, but I don't think any are available.
The newest one acquired is a PERQ-1 (and it is in good condition...boots
just fine....
..and just got the report that it booted about a week ago after the chassis
with HD arrived)
Only problem is we don't know the password for the user (and the guest
account is disabled).
I know about it, because I rescued it for him out here in Atlanta. And I
only rescued it because I
had knew Skeezics was a fan from some postings on sun-rescue years ago. I
almost gave him a heart
attack when I told I had picked it up and it was his, he just had to pay
shipping... (it has an interesting
history, I was able to contact the guy who orignally purchased it and used
it at an architectural design firm he ran,
some of the floppies with it are designs for jails... ) The guy who got it
>from him picked it up at a garage
sale he had and was able to squeeze chassis, monitor, etc. into a Smartcar
and get it home (with his wife).
When I called the original owner he said this was the last one he had
(bummer) but he remembers them
fondly (and I was even able to find a picture of one in the history part of
his company web site... not sure
if it's the actual unit I picked up, but could be... )
I don't believe Skeezics is on cctalk, but he has a number of them. Lots
of good
stories, his Dad worked at 3Rivers.... Skeezics I beleive also has the OS
source and got the last machine
that they had left when they closed down. He works on the emulator, etc.
and has been chatting with
Al about PERQs as well... If you want to see about visiting his
collection let me know...
Earl the Squirrel
our phx station had an 8E with one backplane in it and a single diablo
hard drive.
would be great to buy one of these for the museum .
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 12/9/2015 7:19:06 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
radiotest at juno.com writes:
At 11:53 PM 12/8/2015, wulfman wrote:
>The "carts" were 4 track tapes.
They were not. They were either 2 track for mono or 3 track for stereo,
and they were physically different from, and not interchangeable with,
consumer tape cartridges. Radio carts were introduced in, IIRC, the early 1960s
(I would have to check my broadcast equipment catalogs) and predate the Lear
8 track cartridges.
Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html
Tihis is my first post to the group I just want to make sure that
everyone can see this and that I have it setup right please reply if
yall can see this.
This is a laughable ask, I realize that- but I'd really like to find a PERQ.
Anywhere in the US and Canada is fair game. I am prepared to work on one in
any condition, and am okay with any model.
I'm definitely not asking for a handout and would like to negotiate a
reasonable price. (I am aware of the rarity!)
Please contact me off-list if this is a possibility.
For reference, I am located in Seattle, WA.
Cheers,
- Ian
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.finder at gmail.com
Can't help, since I live on the other side if the pond, but AS/400s are cool machines. I own a bunch of them (and some S/36s too) and I like them. OS/400 was and is a good OS (if you have clear in mind what it can and what it can't do).
Meanwhile, you could request a free AS/400 access to the folks at pub1.rzkh.de and play with OS/400. It's fun to access such a beast from a... Smart Phone :)
-------- Messaggio originale --------
Da: Brian Adams <fink at stenoweb.net>
Data:07/12/2015 21:58 (GMT+01:00)
A: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Oggetto: Looking for AS/400
Hi there,
Recently, I've been reading up into AS/400s.. They seem like really neat machines, and look really sharp with those matching block terminals.
I remember retail stores using those, and I always wondered what kind of a system they were running on... I figured it was DOS!
I've been having trouble locating one, however.
Anybody have one lying around, or know of where to find one in the Toronto area?
It needn't be a high spec machine, just something to play with OS/400 and a terminal.
Thanks!
-brian
Hi all --
I have recently acquired a PDP-8/m system that was used to drive a radio
automation rig (very very similar to this: http://www.bowkera.com/kcbs1.htm
).
My understanding is that this system hooked to banks of what were
essentially 8-track tape drives, each of which held a short loop of tape
(containing a song, an ad, call info, etc.) and the 8/m was programmed with
a playlist of sorts so that even in the early 70s you didn't need to have a
real DJ on premises to run a radio station. (I had no idea this sort of
thing went back that far!)
This one was used at KRDU (Fresno's Christian Radio). At any rate, it's
neat hardware. All I have is the 8/m, a custom front panel (as seen in the
pictures on the site I linked above) and a bank of Omnibus backplanes
holding cards that would drive the tapes and mix audio.
I really have no use for the tape-control / audio mixing hardware since I
don't have the tapes and I'm not *really* planning on running an automated
radio station out of my basement (though it does sound fun). I'm not about
to scrap the stuff (it's at least useful for parts) but I thought I'd see
if anyone out there could actually make use of it for its intended purpose.
- Josh
At 09:24 AM 12/9/2015, Mike Boyle wrote:
>Do you have photos?
I don't need photos - I worked with carts from the time I entered radio (1969) until the last of my clients abandoned them several years ago. I have installed, maintained and repaired hundreds of cart machines in the course of my career.
If anyone is interested I can scan and post the 1976 edition of the NAB standard to tape cartridge systems.
Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html
> I've got 13,000 on RetroBattlestations and I doubt very many of them know about the cctalk mailing list.
Wow, that is impressive. However, I suppose much of the PeeCee crowd
really does not integrate well with cctalk, and that is fine.
--
Will
Yeah... the feeling of a real machine is different...
AS/400s aren't retrocomputing cult machines so, waiting a bit, it's not hard to grab one at a decent price...
YES!! DOES IT STILL HAVE THE DIABLO DISC HARD DRIVE TOO!>!>?????opps
caps.... ok yes one of the phx stations had one of these and it had
the 8 and the diablo hard drive
PRICE???? ed sharpe
In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:56:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
derschjo at gmail.com writes:
http://www.bowkera.com/kcbs1.htm
since we collect broadcast gear for radio and TV
we would like to buy this depending on where it is located.
are there any tapes too??? we are VERY INTERESTED!!
thanks ed sharpe archivist for smecc.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 9:54:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
thrashbarg at kaput.homeunix.org writes:
On 9/12/2015 2:26 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
> My understanding is that this system hooked to banks of what were
> essentially 8-track tape drives, each of which held a short loop of tape
> (containing a song, an ad, call info, etc.) and the 8/m was programmed
with
> a playlist of sorts so that even in the early 70s you didn't need to
have a
> real DJ on premises to run a radio station. (I had no idea this sort of
> thing went back that far!)
>
Very interesting. The cartridges were probably NAB cartridges. See
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidelipac>. I got a pile of these from
a guy who worked at the ABC (Australia), mostly studio-link failure
apology announcements and a few calibration tapes.
The content is usually very interesting on these old cartridges. It'd
be a shame if the radio station just threw them out!
Alexis.
mine are old enough to be bitchen!
Ed#
In a message dated 12/8/2015 3:33:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
silent700 at gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> On 12/08/2015 02:23 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>>
>> Yes, keep the kewl machines elsewhere. Our machines are groovy, far
>> out, or maybe even the Bomb.
>
>
>
> You forgot "rad" and "neat".
Certain Crays were "totally tubular."
Man...IUsed this program for YEARS. I'd be glad to register it as a "thank
you" note
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em 08/12/2015 21:18, "Ali" <cctalk at fahimi.net> escreveu:
> C A I X A E C ? N O M I C A F E D E R A L - LOTERIAS
>
> Alexandre Souza,
>
> Conforme voc? pediu, seguem os resultados das Loterias da Caixa.
> Boa Sorte!
>
> Caixa Econ?mica Federal
>
>
> D U P L A S E N A
> --------------------
>
> CONCURSO : 1444
> DATA : 08/12/2015
>
> 1? SORTEIO:
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 20 - 35 - 42 -
> 40 - 39 - 12
>
> (por ordem crescente) 12 - 20 - 35 -
> 39 - 40 - 42
>
> PREMIA??O:
> N? de ganhadores: 0
> Rateio do pr?mio: R$ 0,00
>
> VALOR ACUMULADO 1? SORTEIO: R$ 1.178.636,10
>
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (DUPLASENA)*: R$ 1.500.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 11/12/2015
>
> 2? SORTEIO:
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 14 - 37 - 09 -
> 34 - 49 - 16
>
> (por ordem crescente) 09 - 14 - 16 -
> 34 - 37 - 49
>
> PREMIA??O:
> N? de ganhadores da Sena: 0
> Rateio do pr?mio da Sena: R$ 0,00
> N? de ganhadores da Quina: 31
> Rateio do pr?mio da Quina: R$ 4.072,60
> N? de ganhadores da Quadra: 1282
> Rateio do pr?mio da Quadra: R$ 93,79
>
>
>
>
> Q U I N A
> --------------------
>
> Concurso : 3954
> Data : 08/12/2015
>
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 49 - 04 - 16 -
> 13 - 74
>
> (por ordem crescente) 04 - 13 - 16 -
> 49 - 74
>
> VALOR ACUMULADO: R$ 7.611.144,60
> VALOR ACUMULADO PARA O SORTEIO ESPECIAL DE S?O JO?O: R$ 50.650.937,04
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (QUINA)*: R$ 8.700.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 09/12/2015
>
>
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Quina) : 0
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Quina) : R$ 0,00
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Quadra) : 92
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Quadra) : R$ 7.801,94
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Terno) : 6955
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Terno) : R$ 147,43
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> T I M E M A N I A
> ----------------------
>
> ACUMULOU!
>
> Concurso : 813
> Data : 08/12/2015
>
>
>
> Resultado das dezenas sorteadas (ordem crescente)
> 02 - 24 - 36 - 52 - 54 - 74 - 79
>
> Resultado das dezenas sorteadas (ordem de sorteio)
> 24 - 79 - 54 - 52 - 36 - 74 - 02
>
>
> TIME DO CORA??O: FLUMINENSE/RJ
>
>
> PREMIA??O
> N?mero de Acertos (7)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 0
> Rateio (em R$): 0,00
> Valor Acumulado (em R$) : 558.738,90
>
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (7 ACERTOS)*: R$ 800.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 10/12/2015
>
> N?mero de Acertos (6)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 1
> Rateio (em R$): 61.155,47
>
> N?mero de Acertos (5)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 114
> Rateio (em R$): 766,35
>
> N?mero de Acertos (4)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 2295
> Rateio (em R$): 6,00
>
> N?mero de Acertos (3)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 21218
> Rateio (em R$): 2,00
>
> Time do Cora??o
> Qtde Ganhadores : 14260
> Rateio (em R$): 5,00
>
> Valor acumulado para o pr?ximo concurso de final cinco (815): R$ 147.166,48
>
>
> ARRECADA??O TOTAL: R$ 1.226.806,00
>
>
> Confira os resultados das Loterias pelo seu celular, acesse o site da
> CAIXA www.caixa.gov.br direto pelo aparelho e selecione o link loterias. (
> http://www.caixa.gov.br)
>
>
>
> Conhe?a os investimentos CAIXA: variedade e seguran?a para investir, sem
> abrir m?o de boa rentabilidade. SAIBA MAIS. (
> http://www11.caixa.gov.br/portal/public/investidor)
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Se desejar corrigir seus dados ou se descadastrar deste servi?o acesse o
> link -
> http://www.caixa.gov.br/_redirect/push/r_logon_loteria.asp
>
I was wondering if anyone on the list may have contact info for Mr. Volpe
the author of ModemDoctor. I attempted to send in the registration fee for
his service based on the address on his website. The letter was returned
"not deliverable". The site does get occasional updates so he is still
around and apparently still accepting orders.
Thanks
-Ali
On 6 December 2015 at 13:24, Mark G. Thomas <Mark at misty.com> wrote:
> As much as I love old CPUs, I've lost my patience with hard disk drives.
> I've been using AztecMonster (search ebay) CF-SCSI adapters, with several-GB
> CF cards instead of spinning disks. The KA660 and several PDP-11/83s
> here run reliably from CF storage. I see now there are SCSI2SD cards for
> half the price of the AztecMonster CF adapters I've been using. These
> might be an alternative, if they play okay with whatever q-bus SCSI
> controller you find. Installing from SCSI CDROM and using flash
> storage is definitely the way to go if you can get the parts.
>
That's great news to hear that the AztecMonster works on QBUS PDP-11s.
I now know exactly what my future plans are...
But I have a "random" question for those here. I know some of the QBUS
(and UNIBUS) SCSI controllers can act both as an MSCP and TMSCP
controller. (CMD CQD-220A/TM for one example.) And I know that several
of the PDP-11 operating systems install from tape, and can install
>from TMSCP tape (hello RSTS/E). What I'd like to know is: Is there
anything out there that can emulate a SCSI tape device on a CF card/SD
card/USB stick/what-have-you?
Best regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
bah! sacrilege!
In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:30:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
bqt at update.uu.se writes:
sell the feet separately from the H960, etc) is
>>> the way to get the most money,
> I seriously doubt the splitting of the H960 from its feet or not will
> influence the outcome of a job position.
I don't know, because I don't know enough about their exact financial state.
But it doesn't matter, for two reasons: First, given that it's for a good
cause, it shouldn't matter; it will help, that's all one needs to know.
Second, even if it weren't for a good cause, "the splitting of the H960 from
its feet" is - or should be - No Big Deal anyway. It's not like the parts are
going to be melted down, or anything; they will just be re-arranged.
So someone who has e.g. a three-bay system, with feet on the two end
cabinets, would probably be quite happy with a fourth bay without feet. And
at the same time, someone who has a one-bay system with no feet would
probably be ecstatic to finally find feet. Everyone's happy, all the parts
are in good homes; where, exactly, is the problem?
Noel
Decent... well...
Hard to tell...
If you use an external USB mini keyboard they're decent :)
There's the free version of Mocha TN5250, just for an example...
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READ ON>>>>
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yea but I doubt a pair of H960 feet would be a make or break for
her... just 'sayin....
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:37:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
wdonzelli at gmail.com writes:
> Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
should ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
We know nothing of the business situation. small consulting firms are
notorious for having huge swings in cash flow. It may be that the
business in question really is dying, or they may have a monster sized
check "in the mail" from a client, and the owner just needs some cash
to get over the holiday.
A close relative of mine has a small consulting firm, and she goes
through periods of months with no money coming in, even with clients
owing her six figures in payments. Some clients (governments, mostly)
can take a year to pay!
--
Will
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
Bingo.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:29:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
hp-fix at xs4all.nl writes:
Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
should ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
-Rik
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: "Noel Chiappa" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Verzonden: ?8-?12-?2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
CC: "jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up
an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that
they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't
have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
I seriously doubt the splitting of the H960 from its feet or not will
influence the outcome of a job position.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:24:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
hp-fix at xs4all.nl writes:
Hmm,
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: "Noel Chiappa" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Verzonden: ?8-?12-?2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
CC: "jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up
an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that
they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't
have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
> From: Johnny Billquist
> (Or maybe I'm just naive in thinking that people who request assistance
> to maximize their profits targeting the same crowd they ask for
> assistance from (for free) is abusive.)
_I_ am not selling the item in question; I merely happen to know the seller,
and am doing them a favour (since I happen to sympathize with people whose
jobs are about to disappear). I expect they will use eBay to actually sell the
item; I am fairly certain that it _will not_ be offered through this list.
So I think your statement above contains at least two mistaken assumptions.
Noel
>
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:47:51 +0100
> From: Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE>
> Subject: Re: Appraisal for Donation
>
> I'm not sure what you are asking. But a PDP-12 sold north of
> 15k dollars:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161199469414
>
> /P
>
Thanks! I remembered that one selling, but I couldn't remember where.
--
Michael Thompson
So I just saw this commit go by on the FreeBSD ports mailing list.
Since some people were talking about Pascal a month or two ago, I
thought it might be of interest to them.
I'm sure commits to various Linux systems will be done as well.
fwiw, I removed the 1460+ lines of diff :-)
mcl
----- Forwarded message from John Marino <marino at FreeBSD.org> -----
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:29:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Marino <marino at FreeBSD.org>
To: ports-committers at freebsd.org, svn-ports-all at freebsd.org, svn-ports-head at freebsd.org
Subject: svn commit: r403082 - in head: . Mk archivers archivers/fpc-bzip2 archivers/fpc-paszlib archivers/fpc-unzip audio audio/fpc-a52 audio/fpc-a52/files audio/fpc-mad audio/fpc-mad/files audio/fpc-modpl...
Author: marino
Date: Sat Dec 5 23:29:36 2015
New Revision: 403082
URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/403082
Log:
FPC ecosystem: Upgrade version 2.6.4 => 3.0.0
This is the first major release of FreePascal in nearly four years.
There are a ton of new features, way more to list here. see:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_New_Features_3.0
Several new unit ports were added, some were contracted. Most of
those were absorbed into the main FPC packages, but two units are
no longer supported: sndfile and matroshka.
All 99 remaining ports (including Lazarus ports) were build tested
on FreeBSD i386 and amd64 Release 10.2
----- End forwarded message -----
Hi there,
Recently, I've been reading up into AS/400s.. They seem like really neat machines, and look really sharp with those matching block terminals.
I remember retail stores using those, and I always wondered what kind of a system they were running on... I figured it was DOS!
I've been having trouble locating one, however.
Anybody have one lying around, or know of where to find one in the Toronto area?
It needn't be a high spec machine, just something to play with OS/400 and a terminal.
Thanks!
-brian
So I've been informed that a pair of PDP-11/04's are available, Chicago US
area. The price isn't set - someone else has offered the owner ~$400, which
seems a bit low to me (although I don't know what peripherals/memory are
included, if any). One is in a 5" box, and one in an 11"; both apparently
include the basic "Operator's Console" (i.e. halt and reset toggles). Contact
Patrick Lynn at 815-838-0134 if interested.
Noel
The PDP-12 donor to the RICM needs an appraisal for the charitable donation.
I already suggested Vintage Tech.
Any other suggestions?
--
Michael Thompson