- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I have a really compact "PDP-11/23S" chassis that has an 18-bit Q-Bus backplane (4xQuad) in it. Although the circuitry for the Q-Bus is on traces of a PC card, there are also wirewrap pins extending out from the backplane. Am I naive to assume that I can convert this to a 22-bit Q-Bus by wirewrapping four or so lines? Any pointers on how to do this or on technique? Thanks, Dave

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PDP-11/34a - RL02 Help

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Hello List: I have some interlinked questions for the Assembled Gurus: I am trying to understand device adressing in the system as a whole.. is there a good 'base/vector addr for dummies' document I could be pointed at? I have looked (sunsite, etc) and I'm still missing something. I *did* find out how to find the backplane jumper to be removed when installing the RL11... after I discovered it, I notice some kind soul put a red sleeve on the CA1 pin on each of the slots.... Am I correct to assume that RL02s and RK05s can coexist and co-operate in the same system? I am trying to construct a 'fully loaded' PDP11 system, and I want to have the entire range of peripherals available, so that I can perform media and format conversion, as well as have fun running the thing. Will one system support the RX02, 9trk, RL02, RK05, DECTAPE, Paper Tape, consoles and a few terminals, and maybe an Ethernet adapter? I realize this will take a one or two expansion chassis... but am I getting overly ambitious for one CPU? Should there be, maybe, two closely-coupled '11s sharing the load? Eventually I am aiming for a VAX 11/750. Would it be 'better' to wait and use it's resources, whatever they might be? I want to spend a little less time maintaining and a little more time computing... and I'm dying to run some of the DECUS stuff on my Machine. Thanks So Much (in advance) Cheers John

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New toys :)

by pjoules＠joules.enterprise-plc.com

I have just colleected a PDP-11/40 which is said to be working apart from the fact that the PSU has been removed. If I can find a PSU in the future then this will be my first 'lights and switches' machine. I was also given 2 Apple ][ s - 1 ][e and 1 ][Eurostar There is a disk drive with them, but I see from the notice on the back of the drive that it is supposed to be connected to an interface card. As they have no cards in them I suppose I will have to wait until I can scrounge one. Regards Pete

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11/04 free;

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Hiya List: In the process of consolidating/thinning down my out-of-control collection, I think I will place my 11/04 system up for adoption. It is: 11/04 w/operator's console 7266 CPU 8265 CPU MOSTEK memory bd, 8001-H-00, unk (8K?) Plessey mem bd marked 64K depop to 48K 7856 SLU/RTC 7846 RX11 Plessey DMA? (can't remove w/out getting behind rack.) ACT Quad serial I/O unit. Plessey disk controller set and backplane (in seperate BA11 which I'm keeping to use later..) RX01 dual 8" floppy (2 ea) CDC Cealus (Ceali?) top-loading drives, accept RL02 packs (and probably are the same as RL02s) Plessey badged. Battery back-up unit H775A A load of cables, mebbe spare boards, engineering printsets, etc. I am also retaining the DEC rack it's in. I have had this machine partially on the air... it boots into ODT at the console, but I've never tried to boot from the big drives or the floppy. (This machine was removed from service and stored until I bought it, so it *used* to all work... it's not a mongrel system.) THE DEAL: I'm in Southern California. (Malibu). I am looking for a formatter card to use a standard 9-trk drive in a PDP-11/34a system, as well as the inteface card(s) to hook up my big System Industries drive to the '34A. I will disassemble and deliver the above items within a reasonable weekend day's drive, in return for the two devices mentioned (or at LEAST the tape card.) [Other gear related to PDP storage or any MINC stuff will be considered, too..] If, in two or three weeks, there is no response, I will GIVE the 11/04 system to the person who, IMHO, wants it in the worst way, ie. whining, importuning, pleading, tantrums, etc. will be considered..... BUT! given that scenario, you must come and pick it up and cart it off. This is a good 'starter' machine for someone (hopefully) on the list who wants to get going in PDP-land. Note to the adventureous: the combined weight is about 500lb... shipping ain't an option....... Cheers John

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MITS Altair "Minidisk"

by fmc＠reanimators.org

> Came back with one other interesting item. > I never knew there was such a thing as a > 5.25 inch MITS Altair floppy drive. But here > it is... Hmm...why not? I've read that the iCom floppy disk controller was the first 5.25" disk controller for S-100. Not sure if that's true though. -Frank McConnell

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Macintosh SE questions.

by thedm＠sunflower.com

There is a very easy free way to get that HD to work. There is a free patch on the web for HD Setup, and it works, just do a search for it. If you cant' find it, I'll jump on my mac and email it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel A. Seagraves <DSEAGRAV(a)toad.xkl.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Macintosh SE questions. >[Format floppies with Macintosh] >And then they become 800k disks, which a PC can't read. > >[HDD setup stuff costs more than drive is worth.] >This is another thing I hate, when companies use software checks to enforce >hardware monopolies. That's SOOOO stupid. Any hardware could do, but the >O/S makes sure it's a Genuine XXYZ-Corp. device and barfs if it's not. >Guess I just get to deal with the internal HDD... >(I think it's 20 meg, but it makes scary noises...) >Buying new gear for this is out of the question. > >-------

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Atari 800 carts

by red＠bears.org

So I started playing with my Atari 800. How do I work with disks? And what's the deal with this "Left Cartridge" / "Right Cartridge" thing? How does that work with something where it's obviously inappropriate, like with a 400 or 800XL? ok r.

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Apple III & Profile

by desieh＠southcom.com.au

-----Original Message----- From: MicroAge97(a)aol.com <MicroAge97(a)aol.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Sunday, 9 August 1998 3:45 Subject: Re: Apple III & Profile >hello, > >I think you need a program called catylist.. > >dave > Hello but cant prodos access drives up to 32MB if size? *Desie*

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MITS Altair "Minidisk"

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Came back with one other interesting item. I never knew there was such a thing as a 5.25 inch MITS Altair floppy drive. But here it is... http://home.att.net/~rwood54741/Minidisk.jpg The bottom photo shows it on top of an Altair 8 inch drive to give you an idea of it's size. Bob Wood ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Attache Altair 8800??

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Doug wrote: >You lucky dog! You got this from the guy that was spamming usenet a while >back about trading his Altair for an IMSAI, didn't you? He told me the >Icom wasn't for sale when I asked him about it. Damn. Doug, I emailed that guy four times offering to trade an Imsai for his Attache. He never even replied to me. So most likely he is still sitting on it. I am guessing that he received a lot of response so got suspicious about what he had. This is a different one. I was given the name of an Altair dealer and did some detective work and connected with one of it's former employees who had put some stuff in his attic when they closed the doors. I struck up a deal with him and last week drove 1600 miles in three days to retrieve it all. That 800 mile straight through return trip just about did me in. I'm getting to old for this. Bob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Altair Attache??

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Doug Yowza wrote: You lucky dog! You got this from the guy that was spamming usenet a while back about trading his Altair for an IMSAI, didn't you? He told me the Icom wasn't for sale when I asked him about it. Damn. Doug, First of all I apologize to everyone on the list for the wasted bandwidth caused by my screwed up posts. I use Hotmail to view the list because you guys are so prolific that it would load up my primary email folders. But Hotmail seems to have a problem with messing up my posts to the list as you can see. Oh well, since I only post to the list every three or four months maybe it will be tolerated. Anyway this was my reply to your message... My Attache is a different one from the one you made reference to. I too emailed that guy but he never replied to me. My guess is that he got a lot of response and got cold feet on the deal. He's most likely still sitting on it. A week ago I made contact with a former employee of an Altair dealer. When they closed the doors he put a bunch of the stuff in his attic. I struck up a deal and drove 1600 miles in three days to retrieve it all. The Attache was part of it. I worked for this one. The 800 mile straight through in one day trip just about did me in. I am getting too old for this. Bob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Attache Altair 8800??

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Several weeks ago I inquired about the existence of an "attache" version Altair. Several kind folks offered their input as to what this might be. I was asked to share any information about this unit if it became available to me. I have since acquired it and have uploaded some photos for anyone who might be interested. Here is the link... http://home.att.net/~rwood54741/50.jpg It was made by Pertec when they were still producing MITS branded systems. The case carries the name "Icom Attache". But the innards are all branded MITS. Even the keyboard. Electronically, it is an Altair 8800b with the addition of a MITS keyboard. It incorporates all the same MITS circuit cards and the same power supply board as the 8800b. For that reason it is essentially a keyboard Altair 8800. The serial number of this example is 153 which leads me to believe that a precious few were produced and it is probably extremely scarce. I obtained it from an individual who worked for an Altair dealership which was in busuness in 1977 and 78 and he verifies that only a few were sold. I have docs on it. Bob Wood ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Altair Attache?

by altair8800＠hotmail.com

Several weeks ago I inquired about the existence of an "attache" version Altair. Several kind folks offered their input as to what this might be. I was asked to share any information about this unit if it became available to me. I have since acquired it and have uploaded some photos for anyone who might be interested. Here is the link... http://home.att.net/~rwood54741/50.jpg It was made by Pertec when they were still producing MITS branded systems. The case carries the name "Icom Attache". But the innards are all branded MITS. Even the keyboard. Electronically, it is an Altair 8800b with the addition of a MITS keyboard. It incorporates all the same MITS circuit cards and the same power supply board as the 8800b. For that reason it is essentially a keyboard Altair 8800. The serial number of this example is 153 which leads me to believe that a precious few were produced and it it is probably extremely scarce. I obtained it from an individual who worked for an Altair dealership which was in busuness in 1977 and 78 and he verifies that only a few were sold. I have docs on it. Bob Wood ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Weitek "Multibus Array Processor" board

by svs＠ropnet.ru

G'day, I've come across aforementioned ISA board and some accompanying software. This is really a two-board set, held together firmly with screws. It uses two adjacent 8-bit ISA slots. On the top board the biggest chip is Weitek WTL1066 - a "FP data path" (Floating Point? Field Programmable?). There are no external connectors. How I can test it? Will it work in Pentium-class motherboards? (It currently sits in a computer very much alike the original IBM AT). What can I use it for? Cracking RC5 would be cool :) -- Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru

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Wanted: Commodore Plus/4 Power Supply

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Will trade for ??? Have lots of Commodore and PC stuff, some Apple. manney(a)lrbcg.com

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My Retirement...

by kyrrin＠jps.net

At 09:54 08-08-98 -0500, you wrote: >A few people have asked what's the deal? Didn't I retire from collecting >antique computers? <read with much amusement, then snipped> I knew it! I keep telling people, 'It's in the genes. If you truly love the field, and the equipment, scrounging is as much a part of you as breathing, and you'll not be able to give it up for any length of time.' Do they believe me? Nooooooo. Not until something like this happens. ;-) Welcome back. Mind the aisleway. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Commodore Vic 20 power sup

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

--- You wrote: Hummm... I saw a large box full of those in an electronics store. Unfortunately, that was about two years ago, and the store is about two hours away by BMW (Bus, Metro, Walk). And they were charging something like $8 CDN each. The specs listed on the top of my VIC-20 power supply are: INPUT: 117V 47-63Hz 40W OUTPUT: 10VAC 30VA --- end of quote --- I think I'll wind up buying one from somebody else on the list anyway. Thank you though! -- MB ------------------------------------ "YOU! Out of the gene pool!" <raoulduke(a)dartmouth.edu> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~marionba

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Apple III & Profile

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, I think you need a program called catylist.. dave

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Macintosh SE questions.

by mark_k＠iname.com

On Sat, 8 Aug 1998 "Lawrence Walker" <lwalker(a)mail.interlog.com> wrote: > All non-Mac HDDs have this problem. Apple wanted to monopolize >their market. It's been a while since I struggled with my Mac+ but >there are several programs IIRC that you can use to format your HDD >so the Mac will accept it. I'm not sure but check out the Silverlining page >they have a free or shareware Lite program. There is likely something as >well in the classicmac archives http://www.zws.com/classicmacs/ Here's something that I found on a web page: Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5 has a hidden switch to let you format ANY hard disk. To enable it you must edit resource "wfwr", ID 67 and change $00 to $ff ! [Use ResEdit to achieve this.] It seems to work; at least, HD SC Setup no longer quits on my (emulated) Mac with SCSI MO drive. Haven't got a blank disk to test it out fully though. (Aside: Is the old pre-System 6 Mac OS software still on the Apple site?) -- Mark

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Macintosh SE questions.

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I got the SE to go. Now, I need to get the SCSI harddisk I have to work for it. It has a (limited) version of System 6.0.8, and I have a 200 meg SCSI external I plan on using. How do I get the Mac to initialize the SCSI disk? (I can worry about System 7 later...) Also, it has an 800k disk... Is there any way to cheat and make a PC produce these? Or will the Mac take 720k disks too? (I can make a Mac-formatted 720k disk with hfstools... But I can't format the SCSI disk with it - no SCSI controller in the PC.) -------

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I dont think my plea ever made it to the list...

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

I dont think my previous plea made it to the list, our mail system here is rather braindead. I need a S-100 RAM card of any size to test my IMSAI. If anyone has one they feel comfortable parting with, please let me know. Thanks Tony

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Macintosh SE questions.

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 8/7/98 10:17:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com writes: > >I got the SE to go. Now, I need to get the SCSI harddisk I have > >to work for it. It has a (limited) version of System 6.0.8, and I have > >a 200 meg SCSI external I plan on using. > >How do I get the Mac to initialize the SCSI disk? (I can worry about > >System 7 later...) you have to run the apple hdsc setup program that should be able to identify and init the external drive. if it's not a genuine apple drive, it won't do it. if that's the case, i could send you a program to do it. david

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Xpost: HP item help wanted

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

If anyone can help him, please email him direct, not me. I have a feeling these items are not PC related. --------------------------------------------------------- Norman Johns <njohns(a)gfn.org> Burton, Mi USA - Saturday, August 08, 1998 at 08:57:44 Antique HP 50720A cdrom and CM 153/03 controller board. Looking for information/drivers for the above. This cdrom has a special 16 pin ribbon connector from it to the control board, another 10 pin ribbon connector???, a 5 switch DIP switch packet, plus the 4 pin power connector. The controller card has only 1 jumper block with 4 jumper positions. HELP! HELP! please.

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Commodore Vic 20 power sup

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:52:56 -0400, Salzman, Jeff" <jsalzman(a)hersheys.com> wrote: >>If I recall, the two prong VIC-20 power supply is simply a 9VAC 1A power >>supply. You can get or fabricate a replacement from Radio Shack parts. >>If you are replacing an existing dead P/S, you have the connector(s) you >>need to connect to a 9VAC transformer. If not, the connector is similar >>to the old AC power cables which were used on the '80s portable cassette >>players/radios or Remington electric razors. Right. R/S has two cords (278-1254 and 278-1256), but I think that the -1256 is the one. For the power supply, I bought a 9vAC 3.4a surplus power supply (Atari, I think) for $5 from Marlin P. Jones & Assoc., one of my favorite surplus catalogs. They carry a lot, but it seems that they specialize in power supplies of various types. When I'm building something, I go to them for the power portion of the project. Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Preserver of "classic" computers <<<< ========== reply separator ========== >>>>>

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Commodore Vic 20 power sup

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

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FW: We have a PDP11/44 Available

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Say... wasn't someone besides me looking for an 11/44? Here's your chance! ;-) -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Fri, 07 Aug 1998 12:05:19 -0700, in alt.sys.pdp11 you wrote: >>Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11 >>Subject: We have a PDP11/44 Available >>Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 12:05:19 -0700 >>Organization: The University of the Arts >>Lines: 60 >>Message-ID: <35CB4FEE.F56C1F10(a)hslc.org> >>Reply-To: jawillie(a)hslc.org >>NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.28.84.22 >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------57797D7306A236C27B672957" >>X-Trace: 902505849 YRH3WRCEH5416D01CC usenet57.supernews.com >>X-Complaints-To: newsabuse(a)supernews.com >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win16; I) >>Path: blushng.jps.net!news.eli.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!144.212.95.13!nntprelay.mathworks.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail >> >> >>--------------57797D7306A236C27B672957 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >>We currently have a full PDP11/44 system that we are trying to get rid >>of. The system consists of the following >> >>1 - PDP11/44 >>1 - TS11 Tape drive >>2 - RMO2 Drives >>2 - Systems Industries Drives (680Mb, 390Mb) >>1 - DEC LP25 Printer >> >>We are willing to entertain any reasonable offer for this equipment. We >>are also willing to donate this equipment to any charitable or >>educational institution. If you are interested in this equipment, email >>either myself at the address below or Joyce Zogott at jzogott(a)uarts.edu. >> >>Thanks. >>-- >> James A. Williams, PC Systems Analyst >> The University of the Arts >> Computer Services >> Voice: (215)875-4856 >> Fax: (215)546-6134 >> jawilliams(a)uarts.edu >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272) http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin -- also kyrrin [A-t] Jps {D=o=t} Net Spam is bad. Spam is theft of service. Spam wastes resources. Don't spam, period. I am a WASHINGTON STATE resident. Spam charged $500.00 per incident per Chapter 19 RCW.

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Apple III & Profile

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

Greetings, I finally got around to trying the Profile hard drive someone gave me, with my Apple III, but I can't get it to work. I haven't tried formatting, but I wan't to leave that as a 'last resort', in case there's something useful on the drive. I opened up the drive when I first got it, to see what's inside. The actual drive mechanism is a full-height 5.25" jobbie, and IIRC it's 5MB. I don't remember who the manufacturer was. I power up the drive first, and wait until the READY light stops blinking. I have no Apple III docs, I just 'guessed' that that was the proper procedure. I don't know if it is yet. I then boot up the III with the SOS 1.3 Utilities disk. I've used the configuration program to make .PROFILE active. The configuration file reports the following: item field value 1 - Device Name................ .PROFILE 2 - Device Type................ $D1 Block, Read, Write ( range 00..FF ) Formatter present; NonRemovable 3 - Device Subtype............. $02 ( range 00..FF ) 4 - Driver Status.............. ACTIVE 5 - Comment Apple /// SOS Profile Driver (C) Copyright 1981, Apple Computer Inc. 6 - Configuration Block data Slot Number................ 04 Unit Number................ $00 Manufacturer ID............ $0001 Apple Block Count................ $2600 (9728) Version ID................. 1.00 I can't edit the configuration block data, though. If I go down to item 6 and hit RETURN, I get to the "Edit Driver Configuration Block" screen, which looks like it should have at least 16 values on it. It only displays "[FF]" at location 00, though, and although it says I can use arrows to go to other values, the arrows don't do anything. If I go to the "Device handling commands" section from the main menu, and attempt to Verify .PROFILE, the READY light on the Profile blinks, there is a clicking noise, and the READY light goes out. The program reports ".profile - Volume not found". The READY light stays out for a while, blinks a few times, then comes back on and stays on. If I go to "List devices configured", it pauses when it gets to .PROFILE, and reports "(no directory)", and the drive behaves exactly as with Verify. It's possible the drive just needs to be formatted, but as I said, I don't want to do that until I'm sure there's nothing salvageable on it. I'm not even sure I've got the cabling right. I assumed it takes a straight-through 25-pin cable from the ProFile controller to the drive unit. No twists or turns along the way? Also, I've got two Profile controllers, one in slot 3 and one in slot 4. I coulfn't get it to work at all from the one in slot 3, simply because it seems to have been preconfigured to look at slot 4. Any helpful info will be appreciated. Hopefully I don't get frustrated and try formatting the unit before I get a reply. :) Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/

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Anybody want to part with...

by rax＠warbaby.com

...an Altair? From: "Seth D. Carmichael" <scarmike(a)tmn.com> To: "Dead Media Project Collectors List!" <collectorz(a)lists.tmn.com> Subject: [collectorz] FW: for collectorz Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:50:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-Message-Id: <000001bdc22b$d7eda560$b689b1cd@seth> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:unsubscribe-collectorz@lists.tmn.com?subject=[rax@warbaby.com]> List-Software: Lyris Server version 2.54, <http://www.lyris.net> List-Subscribe: <mailto:subscribe-collectorz@lists.tmn.com> List-Owner: <mailto:owner-collectorz@lists.tmn.com> List-Help: <mailto:help@lists.tmn.com> Reply-To: "Dead Media Project Collectors List!" <collectorz(a)lists.tmn.com> Sender: collectorz-admin(a)lists.tmn.com Precedence: bulk X-Lyris-To: [rax(a)warbaby.com] X-Lyris-MemberID: 2557 X-Lyris-MessageID: 7371 Status: U please respond to Dustin direct! Thanks >From bogus(a)does.not.exist.com Fri Aug 7 01:41:25 1998 From: bogus(a)does.not.exist.com () Date: Sun Feb 27 18:35:48 2005 Subject: Altair 8800 Message-ID: <mailman.2.1109550948.8069.cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Hello, I'm looking for an old Altair 8800, and I need to know if it is possible to buy one or if you know of anywhere, where I could get the plans for it. Any information that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Dustin --- You are currently subscribed to collectorz as: [rax(a)warbaby.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to unsubscribe-collectorz(a)lists.tmn.com -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Dreadlocks on white boys give me the willies.

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S-100 RAM Card

by apulo＠joyce.eng.yale.edu

The only cards I have are a PIO and Processor card (well, plus the front panel). I appreciate the help. Tony (from home) apulo(a)joyce.eng.yale.edu

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RED ALERT! Mainframes Available - Vancouver BC!

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi William: I've never heard of these, but am supposing that they are some type of heat sink. If you can give me a better description I can see if I can get some. I will be going back to the machine room next week. Kevin At 05:13 PM 98/08/07 -0400, you wrote: >> First, an IBM Mainframe, ES/3090 400-J, several hundred MB RAM, many GB of >> DASD (thats HD to us non-big iron folks), 1/4" tape drives, cartridge >> tape, consoles, 3270 and newer terminals, chiller (system is water >> cooled), power supply unit, media, etc. This system runs MVS, also MTS and >> was the main computer for a campus of 20-30,000 for a period of about ten >> years. The machine is circa 1986 and is available to anyone who wants it, >> and will take it away!! I'd suggest that two to four semi-trailers would >> do the job, depending upon how many peripherals one wishes to acquire. > >Too far away! > >If at all possible, please grab the TCMs (Thermal Conduction Modules) out >of the beast before the scrappers get it. Years from now, when some nut >like me tries to fire up a 3090 and discovers a bad chip, those extra TCMs >will come in really handy! > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > > > > --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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More finds saved from the trash

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

Ooh...got any spare two-prong power supplies for the Vic 20? -- MB

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Atari 400 power requirements

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

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Rails needed

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

Check your junk boxes! I am in need of a couple (up to 3 ) pairs of drive rails for a Dell server. The rails will be plastic and have the marking of "PN 25102" molded into them. They are a little bit different than the usual in that they have a snag tab on the fron tof each to lock them into the front of the case. If anyone has some, drop me a direct note please. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ UIN #1714857 AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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On the brink of bidding...IMSAI

by rcini＠email.msn.com

You know, I usually don't bid on anything on eBay unless: (1) it's a low-demand Commodore or Apple item that I want which is (2) less than $20. This time, it's different. I'm intrigued by the IMSAI 8080 listing. It hurts me to think about paying real $$$ for a 20-year-old machine. At $356 (the last bid that I saw today), it's only, what, $150 cheaper than it was when new? It reminds me of the $1500 Altair a few months ago. I don't have one...I want one...I'd give almost anything in my collection for a working one. I just don't want to get screwed by frenzied bidding. If I'm thinking about that kind of $$, I'd much rather see it go to someone that I know. So, if someone on this list would like to save me from myself, let me know. Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> - ClubWin/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Preserver of "classic" computers <<<< ========== reply separator ========== >>>>>

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I dont think my plea ever made it to the list...

by peacock＠simconv.com

-----Original Message----- From: Dellett, Anthony [mailto:Anthony.Dellett@Staples.com] Sent: Friday, August 07, 1998 1:59 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: RE: I dont think my plea ever made it to the list... >Anything that will store bits for an IMSAI with the stock 8080 processor >card. Ok, what other cards do you have? I might have an old Omnibyte 64K, uses 6116 type SRAMs plus you can stick in a 2716 pair (it uses even/odd pairs for 16-bit access) in the last 4K for a boot ROM. Unfortunately all I have are Z80 bootstraps, none will run on an 8080. No promises, but I'll look. Jack Peacock

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Commodore Vic 20 power sup

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

--- jsalzman(a)hersheys.com wrote: If I recall, the two prong VIC-20 power supply is simply a 9VAC 1A power supply. You can get or fabricate a replacement from Radio Shack parts. If you are replacing an existing dead P/S, you have the connector(s) you need to connect to a 9VAC transformer. If not, the connector is similar to the old AC power cables which were used on the '80s portable cassette players/radios or Remington electric razors. --- end of quote --- I was able to make it work with an NES power supply (9VAC 1.3A), but anytime I tried to use the datasette, the screen would flicker and all operations would cease. I assumed this happened because the current was too low (high enough to drive the Vic, but not the Vic and the datasette). According to the 8-bit FAQ (in Mr. Dellett's post) this is probably correct -- the lowest-current one listed there uses 1.7 amps. Thank you for the response! -- MB ------------------------------------ "YOU! Out of the gene pool!" <raoulduke(a)dartmouth.edu> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~marionba

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RED ALERT! Mainframes Available - Vancouver BC!

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi All: I have just returned from the University of BC here in Vancouver. They called me to see if I was interested in purchasing two mainframes that went surplus as of June 30th, 1988. They are open to offers, and do not want much money for these. The machines can be described (basically) as follows: First, an IBM Mainframe, ES/3090 400-J, several hundred MB RAM, many GB of DASD (thats HD to us non-big iron folks), 1/4" tape drives, cartridge tape, consoles, 3270 and newer terminals, chiller (system is water cooled), power supply unit, media, etc. This system runs MVS, also MTS and was the main computer for a campus of 20-30,000 for a period of about ten years. The machine is circa 1986 and is available to anyone who wants it, and will take it away!! I'd suggest that two to four semi-trailers would do the job, depending upon how many peripherals one wishes to acquire. The current front runner on this machine is a local scrap dealer who is going to chop up and recycle the machine for its metal content. :-( I've contacted Paul Pierce, mainframe collector extraordinaire, but he is unable to take the machine due to space and time contraints. Any other takers? Also available: A Hitachi (apparently) mainframe system, model HS 7023, terminals, tape drives, racks, disk storage. This system was smaller (about the size of a large VAX 750/780 installation), was also in working order as of June 30th, and is available. It sort of looked like a mini to me but the computing centre staff refer to it as a mainframe. Offers, you pick up. If there's any interest then please email me and I will be able to provide you with further information, and put you in touch with the surplus folks that are handling the disposal. Kevin -- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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Apple III (last one, I swear!)

by franke＠sbs.de

> Mine has a malfunctioning floppy. Looking for a replacement, as well as any > repair documentation or original manuals... If it is only for the drive, any DISK ][ could be used for replacement parts. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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I dont think my plea ever made it to the list...

by peacock＠simconv.com

-----Original Message----- From: Dellett, Anthony [mailto:Anthony.Dellett@Staples.com] >I need a S-100 RAM card of any size to test my IMSAI. If anyone has one they feel comfortable parting with, please let me know. Your last msg did make it. Do you need 8 bit, 16 bit, static, dynamic, 16 bit address, 24 bit address, mixed RAM and ROM, do you have a boot ROM of some kind, what CPU card are you using, do you have a front panel? I'll check and see if I have anything to spare this weekend. The catch is the S-100 boxes are piled 6 hi and chances are the spare card is in the bottom one, plus I have to unscrew each top to look inside. Jack Peacock

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Atari 400 power requirements

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

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Allison famous in Singapore!

by franke＠sbs.de

>< Maybe the average Joe and JoAnne are getting sick and tired of $2500 eve >< just to keep up with the Jones'??? > It's not the $2500... it's the $2500 for his, $2500 for hers and $3000 for > the 1.6 children that want the newest one. *G* > Whatever happend to timsharing systems... A great way tp distribute the > cost. MS tries to catch up with WinNT - so the Users might share their time while waiting for the next bugfix. :) SCNR Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Commodore Vic 20 power sup

by jsalzman＠hersheys.com

If I recall, the two prong VIC-20 power supply is simply a 9VAC 1A power supply. You can get or fabricate a replacement from Radio Shack parts. If you are replacing an existing dead P/S, you have the connector(s) you need to connect to a 9VAC transformer. If not, the connector is similar to the old AC power cables which were used on the '80s portable cassette players/radios or Remington electric razors. I'm open for any disputes. (Be gentle) Jeff Salzman > >Sorry about the high volume of requests here! I'm looking for the two-prong >version of the Vic 20 power supply. Thanks again! >

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Apple III (last one, I swear!)

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

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Lisa II parts

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

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Denver Finds -- still avail

by sinasohn＠crl.com

Hi guys! I'm telnetting into my old accound from a bookstore in Denver... Just wanted to let any locals know that there is an NEC APC (Advanced Personal Computer) available at the ARC thrift shop at 10000 E. Colfax in Aurora. It's an older machine, looks like a VT-100, with a monitor and 2 8" floppies in the main unit. Not sure how much (tag was torn.) Also there is a Franklin Ace 1000 and a Commodore PC-20 III. And an IBM DisplayWriter. So far, I haven't picked up much, but I did get a Mattel(?) Odyssey, to "TV (that is, two (2)) game consoles, and an Atari Pong game in the box. That's about it; I'm off for more sightseeing.

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MAC ATTACK

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

--- Van Burnham wrote: One of my co-workers has given me a fantastic Mac Plus...I cleaned it up and she's looking just beautiful (even has a Gigamation Data Cell external hard drive...so sweet!), except that when I fired her up, I found out that the mouse (MO100) is totally dead...it only moves horizontally...I tried some minor surgery, but to no avail. Also the keyboard (MO110A) is in trouble as well, some keys are missing and some simply don't function. Would any of you happen to have any spare keyboards or mice that you would be able to sell/trade? I would be thrilled to get this system fully functional again... Any advice would be very much appreciated. --- end of quote --- I don't have any spares right now, but I was going to suggest checking Goodwill/Salvation Army stores -- I saw a Mac 128/512/Plus keyboard for sale at one of those not too long ago. Also, Sun Remarketing (www.sunrem.com, I think) sells all kinds of old Apple/Mac stuff, including small parts (like maybe key caps and keyswitches). I've replaced those keyswitches many times, and if you can solder two dots onto a flat circuitboard, it's not very difficult. Unlike today's single-piece membrane keyboards, all the keys on the older Mac keyboards are separate. Other companies to try: Preowned Electronics, Shreve Systems, and Nexcomp, all of which specialize in refurbished Mac systems and parts (www.preowned.com, www.shrevesystems.com, and www.nexcomp.com). Nexcomp lists a Mac Plus keyboard, no cable for $25 and a Mac Plus mouse for $19. The others may be cheaper. Hope that helps! -- MB

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Altair mania!

by franke＠sbs.de

>>With all of the billionaires overbidding on ebay, Altairs are coming out >>of the woodwork! This should be interesting. Two are for sale (one from >>our own jimw), both have a "reserve", and one has a starting bid of $2500 >>which has already been met! I think that's a record for an Altair, isn't >>it? So much for the old supply and demand theories. > The one for $2500 says the reserve has not been met!!! Wishes.... > At that price, maybe MITS should start up again! Wishes... But hmm what about building Replicas for all the poor yougsters ? Are there any oldie Remakes available ? > The Imsai is $305 right now, for the person looking for one. I bet a whole squard of snipers is waiting for the closing time. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Allison famous in Singapore!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< I KNOW this is the same Allison! I just hope she remembers where she T'is me and I do. < also does just about anything else she puts he mind to. It may also show < that she's just cheap (hehe) Correct in both cases, I'm cheap and I put my mind to it. ;) < Maybe the average Joe and JoAnne are getting sick and tired of $2500 eve < just to keep up with the Jones'??? It's not the $2500... it's the $2500 for his, $2500 for hers and $3000 for the 1.6 children that want the newest one. Whatever happend to timsharing systems... A great way tp distribute the cost. Allison

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Allison famous in Singapore!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Question: Is it true that Allison is the model for DILBERT'S "ALICE"? No, she has better hair. ;) Allison

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Allison famous in Singapore!

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

At 03:58 AM 8/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >Today: Singapore, tomorrow: the world! > http://www.singapore.cnet.com/Briefs/Guidebook/Obsolete/ss02.html > >-- Doug > > Question: Is it true that Allison is the model for DILBERT'S "ALICE"?

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