- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by franke＠sbs.de

> At 10:31 PM 8/24/98 -0400, you wrote: >>Yeah, I know a number of musicians using STs in preference to more >>modern PC VESA/PCI sound cards -- there is some program out of >>Germany (dongle protected) that apparently has yet to be equalled on >>Wintel platforms. > Probably Cubase -- which I would be using if a) I had and money, b) I had > any talent, and c) I had any time. Cubase Audio for the Falcon (68030) > offered (iirc) 8 or 16 track digital recording straight out of the box. > Serious digital recording & MIDI for around a grand. (Used Falcon, Cubase, > and a big hard drive.) > Also, there are ST clones available from (iirc) Canada and/or Germany with > fast 68060 processors, tower cases, IDE and SCSI support, true > multi-tasking, etc. The Medusa, if I recall correctly. In fact there are 3 major NEW designs ST compatible computers in Europe: Hades, Medusa and Milan (1 French and 2 German), and several small size efforts based on refitet Falcon Boards. The Milan for examlpe, the newest ST successor is available since 3 month. A 68040/33 MHz (060/80MHz within the next 3 Month), up to 512 MB RAM, 4 PCI, 3 ISA slots, 2 IDE ports, etc. Of course GEM and TOS in ROM (or to be exact FLASH) - The Milan Computersysteme GmbH ownes now all legal rights for the TOS/GEM ROMs - now in version 4.5 (an enhanced 3.x like on the Falcon). Eventualy they licenced the new PCI-BIOS to all other ST compatible manufacturers virtualy for free. A multitasking OS is also includest And the best of all: A basic configuration (Milan 040, 1 GB HD, 16 MB RAM, 2 MB Trio V64+ Video, Midi tower, PC-Keyboard, Mouse and some SW) is just DM 1499,- (including tax) thats something like USD 750,- (without tax). Incredible cheap - A Mac Performa 630 (040/33Mhz) is used still something like USD 400. There an enormus power alive in the european ST family. (oops, again off topic, but I still like ATARI :) > And, while we're on the subject, anyone get to the World of Atari in Las > Vegas last weekend? Any URL for a report _with_ info ? -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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by franke＠sbs.de

>>Give me a break! >> Plus, I would guess some of the parts they are using are old. >>I have the feeling cracked seals could once again be the >>problem." > Could it be because they don't know how to built a rocket today? But maybe it's only because they do (and design) today everything in the ISO 900x way - Documentation is everything, personal engagment and responsibility is nothing. Just keep in mind, 900x evolved from several rules inside the military/ supply industry to avoide any responibility for failure (tecnical/cost). Gruss H. (Sorry, to go off topic so fast, but I belive we need no mysterious conspiracy to describe the world, we have more than enough buerocracy and incompetence) -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Back! I'm back... (now WinNT hit-and-run)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

However, Linux can do some things on a 386 while NT will barely run. I would expect that NT may have some bugs that cause, say, divide by zeros on certain hardware. It's very difficult for Linux to have a bug last very long. I have never had any problems running Linux but I stil can't get it to install on some machines because of crappy distributions. I'll do it manually soon enough... > >I wouldn't be so sure. Linux will stress a system far more than >W3.11/WFWG/W95 will. I've experienced a number of systems that would quite >happily run BGP (Bill Gate's Products) that wouldn't reliably run Linux. >Typically the problem is memory that is marginal and is quite often seen as >compile errors (especially rebuilding kernels). > >However, I must admit that I never have problems with stability of either >of linux or NT.... > > Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au > Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479 >1999 > La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the > Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green" > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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old computers

by museum＠techniche.com

Where are you located? Regards, Jon --------------------------------- >We have some old 486 computers that we don't use anymore. Can you use them? >Marvin J. Wakoff >Wakoff, Andriulli & Co. >mwakoff(a)njcpa.com ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> ><META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>We have some old 486 computers that we don't use >anymore. Can you use them?</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Marvin J. Wakoff<BR>Wakoff, Andriulli & >Co.<BR><A >href="mailto:mwakoff@njcpa.com">mwakoff(a)njcpa.com</A></FONT></DIV></BODY></ HTML> >

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MacXL -> LISA conversions and other things...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-01 03:35:51 EDT, you write: << > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, James Willing wrote: > > > Apple PN: 342-0135B (eprom in some sets, masked rom in others) > > 342-0134A (???) > > 342-0133A (???) > > and... 370-6502 (a 6502 processor ?!?) > > > > My first inclination without opening up any of my boxes (that I can't get > > to at the moment anywho) is Apple IIgs upgrades... Can anyone confirm or > > deny this? Most of the parts are dated 1982... >> these are the chips needed to turn an original apple //e into an enhanced //e model. david

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Pascal Micro Engines

by franke＠sbs.de

>>> See my web page for a history of the UCSD P-System. >>Hmm letmesee... only Pascal ? What about the otherlanguages ? > > I don't think I have any other languages for my Terak's > P-System, and I don't know much about who developed those... > Did UCSD develop any beyond Pascal? At least Fortran and Basic - While the Basic compiler never got wide usage, the Fortran was quite popular among the number crunchers to get some of their apps running on the A2 Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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MacXL -> LISA conversions and other things...

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

Hmmm... Ok, based on what information was forwarded to me (thanks, and you know who you are!) the box is not all what it appears to be. It does appear that the box contains one set of original LISA parts (two eproms and a state machine) which I'll have to figure out what to do with (lots of folks wanted some, and now it seems I only have one) and a LOT of sets of other parts. Can anyone put meaning to these? Apple PN: 342-0135B (eprom in some sets, masked rom in others) 342-0134A (???) 342-0133A (???) and... 370-6502 (a 6502 processor ?!?) My first inclination without opening up any of my boxes (that I can't get to at the moment anywho) is Apple IIgs upgrades... Can anyone confirm or deny this? Most of the parts are dated 1982... -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Back! I'm back... (now WinNT hit-and-run)

by H.Davies＠latrobe.edu.au

At 04:26 PM 31-08-98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote: >Use Linux instead. Its far less picky about its hardware (and a whole >lot more stable too, not to mention just a better OS). I wouldn't be so sure. Linux will stress a system far more than W3.11/WFWG/W95 will. I've experienced a number of systems that would quite happily run BGP (Bill Gate's Products) that wouldn't reliably run Linux. Typically the problem is memory that is marginal and is quite often seen as compile errors (especially rebuilding kernels). However, I must admit that I never have problems with stability of either of linux or NT.... Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479 1999 La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"

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Docs archive

by red＠bears.org

My collection of documentation has taken a dramatic upturn in the last few weeks. It just occurred to me that I could have the very thing somebody's looking for. Who knows? So, in an attempt to be unselfish, I am going to catalogue the docs I have available and make information from them available to anybody needing it. Just ask. And, for the record, I'll try to be quicker than I have been getting that CT Voice Processor manual copied and mailed to Sam. (: I'll make the listing available at http://www.slash.net/predicate/ Hope it'll be useful! ok r.

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old magazines

by workapulo＠my-dejanews.com

I'd be very interested to know if you have copys of an old magazine called "Micro Cornucopia". I did a summer internship there when I was in high school. Tony -- On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:04:26 Seth J. Morabito wrote: >[...] >> When did the downward trend in magazines occur, or was it a steady >> process? > >Old computer magazines are another passion of mine. I a large >bookshelf full of BYTE magazine, from around 1976 to 1993, and >leafing through these magazines is like looking through the layers >of sediment in an archeological search. It's immensely fascinating. > >BYTE started out as a single-signature stapled magazine. The September >1975 issue is 96 pages. These were the days of serious homebrew >systems, and Byte catered to that crowd exclusively. There were articles >about writing assemblers, about microcode, about CPU design, about MMU >architectures, and about CP/M internals. The typical reader was putting >together a home-made or kit-bought S100 machine, and wanted to stay in >touch with their fellow hackers. Those were truly glory days, 1975 to >1980, although I was too young to participate. I was busy playing in >a stream somewhere over summer vacation :) [I guess I'm trying to make >up for lost time by being so interested in classic computers now] > >BYTE stayed about this size, right up through 1980 or so. If you were >around to remember it, there was a HUGE burst in Home Computing mania >right around 1981. Computers were suddenly everyhere, and everyone seemed >to have access to an Apple II or a Sinclair or (later) a Commodore 64. >With the introduction of the IBM PC, computers gained "business" >acceptance, and the wave crested. Anyone remember the 1982 TIME Magazine >"Man of the Year" going to "The Computer"? That raised a few eyebrows. > >It was right around that time that BYTE swelled into a behemoth 400-page >magazine. It was like hefting a book, and the spine was a good 3/4" >thick. Every article had something good in it. There were in-depth >articles about Smalltalk and the coming of Object Oriented Programming. >Serious reviews of new commercial computer products. Buyer's guides. >And still, plenty of technical articles, and source code for programs. > >It wasn't until 1985 or so that BYTE got back down to smaller proportions, >and had fewer articles. They focused more PC clones, the brand-new >Macintosh, business applications; less on hard-core internals. The techie >articles were still there, just in fewer numbers, and the readership >of Byte was pretty mixed, technical and business computer users. >Computer literacy was still not what it is today, so there weren't as >many clueless newbies. There would be plenty of time for that later. > >In my very humble opinion, it was around 1987 or 1988 that computer >magazines started seriously heading downhill. BYTE remained a very good >magazine, right up through 1993, but after that, it was fully devoured by >"Business App-Itis", and became pretty un-interesting. > >These days, the only computer magazine that's anything like what >Byte used to be is "The Computer Journal", published by Dave Baldwin. >Unfortunately, it's quarterly instead of monthly -- there's just not >that much demand for S100 information these days :) > >-Seth >-- >"It looks just like a Telefunken U47! Seth J. Morabito > You'll love it." - Frank Zappa sethm(a)loomcom.com > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums

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Help on my MicroVAX 2000

by donm＠cts.com

On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Allison J Parent wrote: Hello Allison, > I meant simply: > > >>>B MKA0 <cr> > > It could be any device from 0->7. OK, I have tried >>>B MKAn for values 0->7 and ended with a quick 84 FAIL in each instance. Likewise, I have tried >>>B MUAn for the same values with the same results, excepting n=0. In that instance, I first see the -MUA0 displayed and sometime later: %VMB-F-ERR, PC = 00000765 %VMB-I-STS, R0 = 000008C2 84 FAIL ^^^ In this case, however, ^ this value is different from the other instances. > < By the way, about how long should the boot from tape take, and what are > < the TK50Z indications that it is 'doing its thing'? I tend to assume > < that the flashing green LED means that it is reading. > > Assume slow, slow, slow. > > < ?? 1 00C0 0000.7004 *** WHAT IS THIS??? *** > > Unterminated ethernet (BNC)? Likely so, as it is not terminated. > < TPC 0202.0001 > < FFFFFF03 01000001 FFFFFF05 FFFFFF05 FFFFFF05 FFFFFF05 FFFFFF05 FFF > > those ending on 05 are not occupied scsi addresses. > > I believe the one that comes up ffffff03 is the tape, the 010000001 is a > new one on me. > > All the other tests I'm ingoring right now. Try the TK50 again with the > SCSI tape disconnected and see that the pattern is. It should all be > xxxxxxx05. Also I think the default address for the tape is 7 not 0. I tried it with the T 50 disconnected and the change was that the 01000001 value became FFFFFF05 also. With it connected but powered down, I got FFFFFF03 FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF ... Right now, I am trying again to boot from the TK50 after setting MUA0 as default via T 51. I entered just 'B', and it has tried -DUA0, -MUA0, -ESA0, ?54 RETRY, and is now on ESA0 again. I'm not sure how long this will go on, but it looks like it is skipping MUA0 on this go round. Yes, it is. It is cycling between -ESA0 and ?54RETRY. Could the TK50 drive itself be faulty, or d\the tapes themselves? - don

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by fmc＠reanimators.org

"D. Peschel" <dpeschel(a)u.washington.edu> wrote: > I'm jumping into the discussion because I just got practically a complete set > of Micro Cornucopia. (From issue #1 until issue #51 (?) which was well into > the MS-DOS days. I don't know when they stopped publishing.) I think the last issue was #53, May 1990. And I hope David Thompson is doing well these days, he certainly brought a lot of interesting reading material my way back then. (Looking for: #8, #10, #11, #12, #20) -Frank McConnell

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LCD Panels

by allisonp＠world.std.com

I seem to recall that someone was looking for a source for cheap LCD pan < a while back (Allison?). Just got the current Alltronics catalog and < they've got 640 X 480 backlit panels (Sharp LM64P80) for $39.95, and < non-backlit for $9.95. Both sound good but whats the drive needs? I already have a $9.95 special but the logic to drive it would be odious and the interface was apprently for a custom chip. Allison

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FW: VAXstation 3100 Model 38 and Peripherals

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Those who would like to experiment with a VAXStation 3100 or two should get in contact with this fellow directly. Thanks in advance. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- From: "Rich Irwin" <rmirwin2(a)aug.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: VAXstation 3100 Model 38 and Peripherals Date: 31 Aug 1998 19:24:23 GMT Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here Lines: 33 Message-ID: <01bdd0f9$9b88a660$718161a7@rmirwin2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.27.72.14 X-Trace: 904591463 OCZ7E7JIA48E D11BC usenet87.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse(a)supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Path: blushng.jps.net!news.eli.net!news.fiber.net!news-stk-2.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail I have two VAXstation 3100 Model 38's and a variety of peripherals, all in working condition for the right price. You can pick from the list and make one good system if you like, or make an offer for the whole thing. Here's my inventory (I'm working from memory but can provide exact p/n's upon request!) 2-3100 M38 (I'm not using the built in video so can't verify on-board video) 2-VT-320 Monitors and keyboards 2-RZ-23L disk (126MB works for most any VMS) 1-Quantum Lightning (540MB, works as boot for VMS>6 or so) 1-DEC RZ25L (1GB works as boot for VMS 5.4 and greater or so) 1-DEC (Sony) 4/8 GB tape unit (just purchased. Works for VMS 5.4 and greater) 1-Tape TK type tape drive (untested) 1-Floppy drive (untested) 1-Toshiba 4x CDROM (works with VMS 5.4 and greater) 1-Spare SCSI interface and device plane Misc cables, etc. As far as VMS and media, one can join DECUS and for about $40 get VMS on CDROM. ;>) You should join anyway! This is the good stuff! I'm about to finish a project with the hardware, so it can be yours promptly! Best Offer for each system or the whole bundle! Thanks and remove the zzz's! Rich rmzzzirwin2(a)auzzzg.com

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Deja vu

by dcoward＠pressstart.com

"Max Eskin" said: >Give me a break! Most of my generation disowned every thing their parents stood for, and they're paying the price. They are having to reinvent the wheel every day. It's like the 80's were a small version of the Dark Ages. Well I'll quit before I really get wound up. I'll just say thank you for making my point. Isn't it sad to think that after landing 12 men on the moon and returning them safely, we sink to the point where we say: >"Rockets explode all of the time." > Plus, I would guess some of the parts they are using are old. >I have the feeling cracked seals could once again be the >problem." Could it be because they don't know how to built a rocket today? >Also, rockets don't rely on computer controls. These are 20-year >old technology. It's unlikely >they have anything more than a bunch of servos like in a model >car. I was talking about the computers used to design the rockets. But,I do think you are forgetting about the P5 based computer running Windows 98 used to monitor the fuel pressure in the fuel pump. I'll bet the rocket "crashed" before it blew up. ========================================= Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com Curator Museum of Personal Computing Machinery Sunnyvale,CA http://www.best.com/~dcoward/museum "This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; Yes,and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely lights and wires in a box." - Micro68 computer User's Manual,EPA Inc. 1976 =========================================

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old computers

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

If, according to your domain name, you're in NJ, there isn't anyone terribly close to you over here. The closest would be Long Island. Actually, we don't consider 486 to be classic, but if they have to be rescued I'm sure someone can do it. What are the actual specs? Have you considered donating them to a school or church? >We have some old 486 computers that we don't use anymore. Can you use = >them? >Marvin J. Wakoff >Wakoff, Andriulli & Co. >mwakoff(a)njcpa.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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WTB: OLD Cd-Rom

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I've already found one. Thanks anyway, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: PG Manney <manney(a)lrbcg.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: WTB: OLD Cd-Rom > Date: Monday, August 31, 1998 12:43 PM > > I have several single-speed Hitachi units. > manney(a)lrbcg.com > > >>>Hello. I'm looking for one of the OLD CD-Rom's that are sometimes > pictured > >>>with old IBM's in TAB books. They are the old, big (well, wide) external > >>>drives that were in a case about 12-18" wide, and about 3-4" high. > >> > > >

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old computers

by mwakoff＠njcpa.com

[Part 1 OK 5 lines Latin 1 text] [Part 2 SHOWN 17 lines Latin 1 text] Use V command to ... [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> *** snip *** In my case, selecting the 5 lines after using V provided straight ASCII text. I agree, however, that plain ASCII is much to be preferred! - don

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laptop batteries/power adapters

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

Having failed to find a 22VDC adapter for my Outbound, I'm trying to look into alternatives. The computer uses an ordinairy camcorder battery - 12 Volts, 2.0Ah. What I'd like to do is hook a power adapter directly to the battery terminals inside the unit. How realistic is this idea? I'm assuming I'd need a 12VDC power adapter, but what about amperage? Thanks. Tom -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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Pascal Micro Engines

by kroma＠worldnet.att.net

>Hmm letmesee... only Pascal ? >What about the otherlanguages ? > Apple's FORTRAN for the // uses p-code. -- Kirk

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Back! I'm back...

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Yes, I'm (finally) back! I've got my system on Linux now for its primary, with NT supporting the stuff that hasn't been ported just yet (mainly EDA tools and the Micro House Tech Library). I must say, I am impressed. I've done things with Linux that would have crashed NT, hard, in a heartbeat, and it took them all in stride and kept on going. Anyway... I know Zane, at least, is wondering about the rescue I did >from Fluke. It went well, and I've got a goodly pile of stuff now. I'll likely be getting rid of most of it, and I'll post a list here as soon as I can write one up. The first run of freebies will likely consist of a pair of PDP-11/04's and DSD-880's to match. Caveat emperor!

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LCD Panels

by rax＠warbaby.com

I seem to recall that someone was looking for a source for cheap LCD panels a while back (Allison?). Just got the current Alltronics catalog and they've got 640 X 480 backlit panels (Sharp LM64P80) for $39.95, and non-backlit for $9.95. If anyone's interested in Atari stuff, they've also got NOS Atari 1020 color printers for $14.95, and 2600 trackballs for $9.95. Alltronics address is 2300 Zanker Rd., San Jose, CA 95131, 408.943.9773 R. -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Dreadlocks on white boys give me the willies.

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old magazines

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Who _is_ Jerry Pournelle? > >At 12:04 PM 8/31/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>Old computer magazines are another passion of mine. I a large >>bookshelf full of BYTE magazine, from around 1976 to 1993, and > >As had been reported here in May when it happened, Byte is no more, >but the post-game commentary has begun. See Tom Halfhill's >analysis at <http://www.wenet.net/~halfhill/bytefaq.html>, >he was an editor there. Love 'im or hate 'im, Pournelle can't >stop talking about it or anything else at ><http://www.jerrypournelle.com/fiasco.html>. > >I agree with Halfhill's assessment in general, that Byte was >perhaps the only general computer magazine as compared to so many >other platform-chauvinistic rags. On the other hand, in the last >few years, many of my copies of Byte went unread. > >- John > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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old magazine

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Well, all of the college guys down here are moving and that means lots of trash. I picked up an old magazine, Popular Computnig, from 1983. This issue deals with programming languages, all sorts of comparisons and advice about them. I've never before seen a computer magazine of this age, and I found it quite fascinating. There was an article about 'Why you should learn to program', the depth of which was immense compared to modern magazines. But the letters to the magazine show that people were'nt any smarter back then, just more curious and thoughtful. I laughed when I saw this letter: "I opened up my computer, and found the 6502 processor. Could I get speed gains by replacing it with an 8088 or 8086?" At least they know the numbers. Good thing they went to the trouble of checking. Too bad intel decided to drop numbers and use meaningless names. When did the downward trend in magazines occur, or was it a steady process? Another question: I found a VGA monitor in the trash. It hasn't been dropped and works fine, but the glass is scratched from being dragged on the sidewalk. Is prone to implosion? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Stupid RSX-11M questions

by sethm＠loomcom.com

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KIM/MOS-Tech

by franke＠sbs.de

Hi, does anybody know who has right now the rights for the KIM-1 design and the respective ROM code? Or more in general - is there any successor for the Commodore Semiconductor divison ? Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Cable needed

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Does anyone have a data cable for a TRS-80 Line Printer II? I want to use it with the TRS-80 Model III, but don't have the cable. I've checked with RadioShack, and they no longer carry it. I also need boot/program disks for the TRS-80 Model III. ThAnX, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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WinNT hit-and-run

by jeff.kaneko＠ifrsys.com

Stable alright, just like a Tiger III Tank: Shells, mines, concrete barriers, etc. will be hard pressed to stop it, but the danged thing won't do 35mph (downhill) . . . At 10:13 AM 8/31/98 -0500, you wrote: > >WinNT is quite stable. I've been running it for years - since 3.0, >I think, under heavy daily software development. Judging from the >reports I hear, I think it's a bit more sensitive to less-than-perfect >motherboards, RAM, or peripherals. I've had perhaps two blue screens >of death, probably due to bad drivers. > >- John >

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Pascal Micro Engines

by franke＠sbs.de

>>Cross platform development was an easy thing - write one >>application and let it run on PETs, Tandys, CPM/systems, >>of coure on APPLE ][s and even on IBM-PCs - oh, did someone >>say Java ? *grins*. > In theory. In practice, many P-System programs made calls to > platform-specific extensions to the language in question, > linking against a library of a dozen or so routines for doing > non-standard subroutines written in machine code: block > memory moves, disk block reads, etc. I don't think those > were ever standardized between platforms. > You can't take the average clone of Pacman or whatever from an > Apple II P-System and run it on another system unless it was > completely pure - poking video memory ain't pure. At some degree - there have been a lot of Units available on different platforms. And as everywhere in these old days the ctr controll codes had more impact an porting than anything else. In fact I used the p-system several times for cross platform developments in the early 80s. Even for my first app on the IBM-PC - The next few apps where developed with Turbo Pascal on the APPLE ][+ using CP/M and recompiled on the PC. I withstand the IBM for almost two years ... > See my web page for a history of the UCSD P-System. Hmm letmesee... only Pascal ? What about the otherlanguages ? > I'd love to get a Microengine. Ibet there are still some out there. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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KIM/MOS-Tech

by workapulo＠my-dejanews.com

I went thru hell trying to find out who has the rights to the Commodore Semiconductor Group parts (looking for replacement 6510s for C64s). You'll never guess who has them... Gateway 2000 Tony -- On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:23:11 Hans Franke wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody know who has right now the rights for >the KIM-1 design and the respective ROM code? > >Or more in general - is there any successor for >the Commodore Semiconductor divison ? > >Gruss >H. > >-- >Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut >HRK > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums

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RAM

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I have here a 386 memory card (you know, the Compaq-type things) with 4 MB RAM in the form of 36 KM41C1000AP-8 chips. Are either of these chips equivalent? If so, I'll take them and populate as much more of the board as I can. > >Hi gang. > >In my various travels I have accumulated a ridiculous amount of DIP ram, which >to me is entirely worthless. > >Does anyone have a use for > >24 HY53C256LS-80 (other number is 9122B) (known good) > >or how about > >36 8806B (the other number is MT1259-10) (unknown quality) > >Basically I hate to toss good silicon in the trash, so if you want these >let me know and we'll arrange something - max cost would be postage. > >-- >Jim Strickland >jim(a)calico.litterbox.com >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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WTB: OLD Cd-Rom

by manney＠lrbcg.com

I have several single-speed Hitachi units. manney(a)lrbcg.com >>>Hello. I'm looking for one of the OLD CD-Rom's that are sometimes pictured >>>with old IBM's in TAB books. They are the old, big (well, wide) external >>>drives that were in a case about 12-18" wide, and about 3-4" high. >> >

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Attention DEC fiends

by jeff.kaneko＠ifrsys.com

Guys: I picked up this half-wide, brand-new looking q-bus card (well, it *looks* like q-Bus card to me). It is labelled: Codar Technology Model 170 Q-Monitor The thing has two Q-bus edge connectors, and a blue plastik pull tab on the other end that says "CTI". I looked up Codar on the web: They're a defence contractor that specializes in ruggedized and hardened computer and computer peripheral equipment (they started by building stuff for off-shore drilling rigs). It's probably made for some military application, but who knows? It may be useful to someone. Anybody want it? Jeff

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Barcode readers?

by wpe＠interserv.com

Anyone out there up on Bar Code readers? Picked up a used one a while back, and I'm wondering about cabling, data output etc. I'll have to dig it out of a drawer at work (I was thinking of replacing the ancient time clock we have with bar coded employee id cards)... I know there's much more advanced technology, but, I work for a non-profit... Thanks! Will

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latest version of Bob Supnik's emulator

by gentry＠zk3.dec.com

It appears I mis-typed the latest release... I plead insanity from having to type 'v3.2c' due to work on Digital unix (V3.2C)... Actually, the most up to date emulator is 2.3c.. Thanks to those who didn't publicly humiliate me and chose to send private mail... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry(a)zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg(a)world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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WTB: OLD Cd-Rom

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I believe this is a drive file you have sent me when I was trying to get mine going. I lost it. Could you please send it, preferrably UUencoded, to me so that I can test? >I have one in my basement. I don't know what it's condition is. It's >been a while since I used it. It is labeled 'CD-Fiche' and looks about >the same size as a CD player for a stereo component system. I'll have to >see what I have left for it. I don't know if I have a driver or >interface card anymore. the driver name was called HITACHIA.SYS (yes, >the extra A is at the end). I do remember, it was SLOOOWWWW. > >Jeff Salzman > >>>Hello. I'm looking for one of the OLD CD-Rom's that are sometimes pictured >>>with old IBM's in TAB books. They are the old, big (well, wide) external >>>drives that were in a case about 12-18" wide, and about 3-4" high. >> > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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NEEDED - IBM PS/2 SCSI DRIVES

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

Need a couple (any capacity) 3.5" SCSI hard drives to use in a couple PS/2 model 90's (8590) that are being donated to the school I'm setting up here. The machines are complete but no hard drives at all. The machines will end up as workstations under Win95 so I imagine 80's would have to be a minimum. Have tons of things to trade and would prefer that.This project is a total donation of time on my part and I'm trying to get as much together without a huge cost as possible. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ UIN #1714857 AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN" * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

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WTB: OLD Cd-Rom

by jsalzman＠hersheys.com

I have one in my basement. I don't know what it's condition is. It's been a while since I used it. It is labeled 'CD-Fiche' and looks about the same size as a CD player for a stereo component system. I'll have to see what I have left for it. I don't know if I have a driver or interface card anymore. the driver name was called HITACHIA.SYS (yes, the extra A is at the end). I do remember, it was SLOOOWWWW. Jeff Salzman >>Hello. I'm looking for one of the OLD CD-Rom's that are sometimes pictured >>with old IBM's in TAB books. They are the old, big (well, wide) external >>drives that were in a case about 12-18" wide, and about 3-4" high. >

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Booting up and LSI 11/23

by gim＠hitec-uk.com

Can anyone point me in the right direction? What I've been told is.... Power on with LTA switch off (down) CPU Swith up (CPU) Init switch up at $ prompt type in drive name $ DK0 It now takes me back to the @ prompt. Type in 0g @0g and I get 000002 back. I'm assuming that the '2' I get back is an error of some sort. Can anyone shed any light on this one for me. Thanks in advance Grant Mitchell

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Sinclair ZX-80 first Sinclair kit?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 30, 20:15, Sam Ismail wrote: > Subject: Sinclair ZX-80 first Sinclair kit? > > I believe I've heard reference to a kit computer that Sir Clive Sinclair > sold before the ZX-80. Is this correct? If so, what was it called, what > CPU was it based upon, and what year did it come out? I think you're referring to the MK14. It's a single board about 4" x 9" with a 20-key hex keypad and LED hex display at one end. The processor is an SC/MP, with 512bytes ROM (2 ICs) and 256 bytes of RAM (expandable to almost 2K) on early versions (I think later versions had more). Programming was done by entering opcodes in hex. It came out in late 1978 or early 1979, AFAIR. Take a look at http://users.aol.com/mk14emu/ for more information. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Cable needed

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Unfortunately, that's not the one that I need. I have 3 of them. I need one with an edge card on both ends. 34 pin on one end, and slightly larger on the other. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Cable needed > Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 11:02 PM > > > Is that the standard Model 3 printer cable? 34 pin card edge connector -> > > 36 pin Amphenol plug? > > If that is the one that you need, e-mail me. I have one or two here. > > - don >

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RAM

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Hi gang. In my various travels I have accumulated a ridiculous amount of DIP ram, which to me is entirely worthless. Does anyone have a use for 24 HY53C256LS-80 (other number is 9122B) (known good) or how about 36 8806B (the other number is MT1259-10) (unknown quality) Basically I hate to toss good silicon in the trash, so if you want these let me know and we'll arrange something - max cost would be postage. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)calico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Any tips on servicing Marchant calculators?

by dpeschel＠u.washington.edu

I just picked one up today. I don't know what kind of shape it's in. The salesman said, "Why wouldn't it be in working order?" -- I can think of many answers to that question and (as I know from reading the list) it's always a good idea to check something out before wrecking it by turning it on. My model is a tasteful shade of dark green, with "MARCHANT" in gold Art Deco- ish letters. I think it's one of the earlier electtric models (it may be one produced from 1939-1945). I'd like to know if there is any simple cleaning up I can do. What's the best way to clean the plastic exterior? Is it possible to operate the mechanism by hand? (The machine didn't come with a power cord. It's in an "unstable" state -- some dials are in intermediate positions, and some multiplier keys are engaged. So it might be a good idea to clear everything.) And does anyone have advice on repairs? I've taken off some of the panels and I was rather intimidated by the mechanical complexity. Then I did some reading on the Web and learned about the insane mechanisms these things use for speed (proportional gearing to handle the carries, tiny differentials, three drive- shafts, the division mechanism which has an analog comparator, etc.) and now I'm *really* intimidated. :) If there are any repairmen in the Seattle area, I'd love to hear about it. (The same guy had a Comptometer which I wish I had bought -- a friend of his apparently has it, and when she opens her store in November it will surely go for 1.5 to 3 times the price he was charging.) Thanks, -- Derek

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1984 (OT)

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Sorry about this, but since we have some politicians here, I thought this might be of interest: today, I was biking past the MA State Police station, and I noticed an interesting thing on the door: one of those Crime Watch 'eye' stickers, but instead of 'Crime Watch', it said 'Big Brother is Watching You'. I don't know how to take it; I guess someone in there has a very strange sense of humor. High on donuts or something.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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part identification

by allisonp＠world.std.com

I'd like to identify the following: 33512, fairchild branding. 28 pin ceramic. Any idea what it is and if so information? Allison

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NewFinds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

It's been a little slow but a few items of interest have come by way, here a short list: 1) SoftPC for Next computer have not loaded it yet to test the programs 2) Next Blank opitcal disk not tested yet waiting on the drive I ordered 3) APX game casette for the Atari 400 called Ennumereight ver 1.0 APX-10204 4) Amiga model 1080 monitor 5) over a 30+ books and manuals 6) Wyse cpu WY-1100-2, kb and monitor 7) Zenith 512k station with 2 fdd on the side 8) Informer model 207 with nice blue carrying case 9) IBM 5153 color monitor 10) Laser 128 with power supply 11) IDEK li Yama color monitor with both Analog and Digital hookup 12) Osborne OCC1 missing KB, has modem unit 13) Compaq LTE286 notebook with power brick 14) Sanyo monitor DMC-7500 not tested yet 15) Macplus mouse and KB 16) 4-Coleco vision game cartridges one being neew to me called Antarctic Adventure 1984 by Konami 17) New in box A+ o[itcal mouse for IIc 18) Northgate 286 cpu only no kb or monitor with it 19) NEC powerMate SX/20i cpu only 20) more 2600 and coleco cartridges 21) Coleco TelStar alpha model 6030 and many more items that I can not list because age (not old enough yet). I will be back on the road again next week so I hope to get some new finds. Keep Computing John

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Cable needed

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Nope. It's an edge card on both ends. The one on the TRS-80 is a floppy drive-type plug, but the one on the printer is a bit bigger (not sure how many pins). -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Cable needed > Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 8:22 PM > > > > Is that the standard Model 3 printer cable? 34 pin card edge connector -> > 36 pin Amphenol plug? > > If so, then it's very easy to make one. All you need is an 34 pin IDC > edge connector, a 36 pin IDC 'Centronics' Amphenol plug and a suitable > length (2m, say) of 34 pin IDC cable. > > Just crimp the connectors onto the cable, leaving the 2 end pins > (furthest from pin 1) of the Amphenol plug unconnected. Use the striped > edge of the cable for pin 1. > > I can't remeber which pin on the model 3 is pin 1, alas. You may have to > plug the edge connector in boths ways round until it works. Shouldn't do > any damage if you get it wrong. > > -tony >

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Bob Supnik's PDP-11 Emulator

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Speaking of the emulator... > >I'm curious if anyone has any more disk images I can experiment with? >Technically, the license included with the emulator covers all older >DEC operating systems, for non-commercial emulator use only. I would >LOVE to get a disk or tape image of a full RSTS or RSX11-M+ environment >I could play with on the emulator. Thank you for pointing this out... if, in fact, this is as it appears (and I just down-loaded the rt image from gatekeeper to read the license), then we seem to be able to run RT-11 V5.3 or earlier, RSTS V9.6 or earlier, or RSX-11M V4.3 or earlier. If so, and I want to confirm this first, I have a copy of the V5.3 distribution of RT-11 I could make available... >Does anyone have such disk images available? And could they share them? >(Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's legal under the emulator license) It sure seems to be... I thought it used to state (for example) an execute-only (RT^2) version of RT V4.0... This is a nice development. I'll check it out today... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of ' ' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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(fwd) Computer Non-Profit Suspends Operations

by dastar＠verio.com

I hope this isn't too late. Some of you in this area may get lucky and find some old stuff amongst the wreckage. -- forwarded message -- News Release Please Route/Distribute. (Photo/Interview Opportunities available -- see contact information below) Minneapolis based Non-Profit Computer Recycler to Re-organize ============================================== Will Temporarily Suspend Operations on August 31st Minneapolis, August 12, 1998 - Minneapolis-based DRAGnet, a non-profit computer recycler, will temporarily suspend all recycling, placement and technical operations on August 31st, 1998 due to a planned re-organization. An unplanned warehouse lease termination will also force a facilities re-location. As a result, DRAGnet will temporarily discontinue computer equipment donation acceptance or collection by Noon on Saturday, August 15th, 1998 until further notice. DRAGnet management also announced today that loss of its warehouse facilities will require a series of liquidation events before the end of this month. "Garage Sales" of all acquired computer equipment will be held each Thursday and Friday afternoon from 12:30 to 5:00 p.m. and Saturdays from 9:00 a.m. to Noon at their current warehouse location of 1100 Van Buren Street NE (approximately one block northwest of the Broadway and Central Avenue intersection). Proceeds will be used to retire debt and partially fund the re-location and re-organization. DRAGnet is the nation's largest EPA-licensed non-profit computer recycling operation. Even with service demand at record levels, DRAGnet management had targeted the end of 1998 as a period of re-assessment because of lagging funding support. The lease issue arose unexpectedly and will result in forcing the re-organization to begin several months earlier than anticipated. The re-organization plan involves examining the funding base for continued and expanded operations as well as addressing other organizational financial and staff issues. DRAGnet recycling programs have enjoyed enormous success in recent years including twice being publicly identified as "the national model that should be copied" by leading national non-profit and recycling sources. Despite the call for replication, funding from outside sources has lagged well behind the demand for service expansion. After recycling operations are temporarily suspended on August 31st, the DRAGnet Board of Directors will devote several months to examining various organization options and opportunities. This will include expanding and, potentially, replacing existing board members, exploring strategic alliances with area non-profits, secure funding resource commitments and/or, perhaps, discontinuing selected service programs if adequate funding sources are not identified. In addition to recycling over 12,000 computers each year, DRAGnet has rebuilt and placed thousands of refurbished computers throughout Minnesota and the United States. People with disabilities, low-income families, schools and churches have been the primary beneficiaries. DRAGnet currently has no individual, foundation or corporate financial supporters. - ### - Contact: Gordon Gillesby 1100 Van Buren Street NE Minneapolis, MN 55413-1537 612/378.9796 612/378.9794 (fax) www.dragnet.org info(a)dragnet.org -- end of forwarded message --

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DATEXT CD-ROM

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Oops. That wasn't supposed to go to the list. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Jason Willgruber <roblwill(a)usaor.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: DATEXT CD-ROM > Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 12:59 PM > > Hi! > > That sounds like what I'm looking for. Do you know if there's a date on it > anywhere? How much would you be willing to sell it for? I also have an > EGA monitor w/card, if you'd be willing to trade. > > ThAnX, > -- > -Jason > (roblwill(a)usaor.net) > ICQ#-1730318 >

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