- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by allisonp＠world.std.com

First: $ help copy $ help backup $ help files under vms should be helpful as it nominally goes down to examples. < Distant memory time... As far as copying files to the tape, did you < initialize it prior to MOUNTing it? < $ INIT MSA0: TEST !TEST being the volume name assigned to the tape That is correct. < $ MOUNT MSA0: TEST !tape "mounts", and is given the logical name < "TEST". It's mount/foreign msa0: < $ COPY DUA0:[MYDIRECTORY]FILENAME.EXT TEST:FILENAME.EXT !file spec is < an example....... $backup/log/image DUA0: MSA0:test.bak/sav < < /FOREIGN, and use < "BACKUP". Yep! A tape from a PDP-11 would ahve to be mounted foreign as it's a non files-11 format. Allison

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Tape Storage for Dummies

by CLASSICCMP＠timaxp.trailing-edge.com

> On my now beautifully working uVAX II (thanks again Allison!) I >have a Cipher 9trk and a TK50... I have the MIcro VMS User's Manuals >VOL I & II. I understand the concept of mounting the devices and >allocating them (sort of), and I have successfully loaded, mounted, >allocated, and initialized a roll of tape on the Cipher. I have made >a Test directory on the HD called [TEST] ;} on which I have created >a couple of simple text files. I have tried to copy these files to >the tape (MSA0:), and it does *something*, the tape advances and the >HD led flickers, but when I try to copy these files back, all I get >are sequentially numbered blank directory entries. Some very important questions that need to be answered: 1. Which version of VMS? 2. What commands did you use? The *exact* commands, with all qualifiers. You know, it is *very* hard for us to tell what you did wrong unless you tell us exactly what you did! It sounds like you may have very well mounted the tape /FOREIGN, in which case there is no file name associated with each file. (See the ANSI labeled tape spec for more details about what /FOREIGN isn't doing for you :-) ) > I mounted/foreign an RT-ll sig tape, and tried to copy it to the >HD; same thing. Show/Dev/MSA0: shows the right Volume Label.. but >the directories are empty when I copy them back... Again, what commands? If you MOU/FOR the tape, by default there is no "file name" associated with each file, and on a copy back you will get files named "." (apparently what you are seeing). When dealing with RT-11 (not ll!) tapes under VMS, please keep in mind the very detailed advice in the RT-11 "Volume and File Formats Manual", pages 1-37 through 1-39. Finally, don't forget "/LOG" if you want to know what each COPY command is really doing for you :-). As a basic test of ANSI labeled tape functionality under VMS, try this: INIT MSA0: TEST (if it complains, use /OVER=(ID,ACCESS) ) MOUNT MSA0: TEST COPY LOGIN.COM MSA0: DIR MSA0: COPY MSA0:LOGIN.COM []LOGIN2.COM -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917 7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817

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Tape Storage for Dummies

by jpl15＠netcom.com

This is an open letter to my Northern Brother-in-Scrap, Bruce Lane, 'cause I know he's done this... and I thought maybe others will have (or soon have) these questions too... Okay.. I realize now that all of my 20+ years of computer experience has been on disk-based systems... and I am having some fundamental-concept problems in understanding the basics of Tape, as it is implemented under VMS (and maybe RT-11 too, I'll burn that bridge when I get to it). On my now beautifully working uVAX II (thanks again Allison!) I have a Cipher 9trk and a TK50... I have the MIcro VMS User's Manuals VOL I & II. I understand the concept of mounting the devices and allocating them (sort of), and I have successfully loaded, mounted, allocated, and initialized a roll of tape on the Cipher. I have made a Test directory on the HD called [TEST] ;} on which I have created a couple of simple text files. I have tried to copy these files to the tape (MSA0:), and it does *something*, the tape advances and the HD led flickers, but when I try to copy these files back, all I get are sequentially numbered blank directory entries. I mounted/foreign an RT-ll sig tape, and tried to copy it to the HD; same thing. Show/Dev/MSA0: shows the right Volume Label.. but the directories are empty when I copy them back... I am lacking in the basic understanding of how the tape system works, so I thought to ask my Firends and Listmembers. Cheers John

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IBM System 34 and 36 questions

by rws＠ais.net

Hi everybody, I have just acquired several large pieces of equipment and I have some questions about them. I haven't moved them yet- some of these questions concern moving them. What I have are an IBM System 34 (model 5340), an IBM System 36 (model 5360), two tape drives (model 8809-1C), and two printers (model 3262-B1), plus some manuals and tapes. Everything is supposed to be in working order- they upgraded and pulled the plug. 1. How much do these things weigh? The computer person there estimated 2000 lb. for the 34, 1000 lb. for the 36, 700 lb. on the printers and 500 lb. on the tape drives. Does that sound about right? 2. How possible is partial dismantling for transport? I didn't get to tear into them to look. Loading access is fairly good in the building they are in, but unloading the 34 could be tricky. It would help if I could lighten them up. 3. What needs to be done before moving? Head locking, moving or removing anything, stuff like that. Other less important stuff that I'm curious about: 4. What kind of interface does it have to the terminals? 5. What kind of power does it need? I'd assume 3 phase 220v. 6. How much computing power is this? Compared to a VAX 11/750, say. 7. How will these things tolerate living in an unheated building over winter? I live in IL. Any other hints and tips would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to be able to move these machines without damage (to the machines or me). I went there today mainly as a recon mission, but they convinced me to take home a Wang word processing system. The server is a model OIS-60X, and it has 4 terminals hooked up by RS336 (?) over coax (BNC connectors), plus a laser printer. I think the printer weighs more than the server. I got a bunch of cartridges for it, and some Canon copier cartridges too, "because they're almost the same". I think not. Thanks, Richard Schauer rws(a)ais.net

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WTB: Portable

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Hello everyone. I'm looking for an old IBM or Compaq Portable (or any other that the motherboard can be replaced with a standard one (especially the IBM). I'm looking for a fairly speedy portable, because of the program that I use (needs a 486).I have an old 486/66 board that I can use, but I don't feel like spending $700 for a portable case w/display. I'd be willing to trade a VGA or an EGA monitor for it, or be willing to pay a fair (ly low) price (since I won't be using much of the guts, anyway. as always, ThAnX in advance, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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Single-card video/I/O solution

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I'm looking for a slight variation of a card I have in an old PC/XT, one card with: - video (monochrome text only is OK, VGA at best) - floppy disk controller (3.5in, 1.44MB is necessary) - serial/parallel I/O (optional, one serial port would be nice) - and (optionally) a hard drive controller (MFM is OK, IDE better) With such a card I can construct a minimal, full system on an old 386sx I have using only one expansion slot, which is a necessity. The card I have is an 8-bit ISA card, and that or a 16-bit ISA card would be OK. The card I have only does up to 5.25in, 720KB floppies, and that's why I can't steal it from my XT. Was such a card ever made? (It's not too much of a step beyond what I have.) Does anyone have one around? Does someone still make such a card? Thanks, Dave

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Sorcerer Serial Number Decode

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

While digging through my Exidy Sorcerer doc, I noticed a little paragraph in the technical manul which tells how to read the Sorcerer's serial number. I'm sending this in case other Exidy owners want to check their systems. ---QUOTE--- "The first five digits of the serial number give the date of manufacturer. The next several digits are specific to the individual unit, and then, if you have a Sorcerer 2, there are the letters II. Next comes the voltage designation. For example, serial number 10299 528 II 220V indicates a Sorcerer 2, manufactured on 10/29/79, unit number 528, of 220 volts." ---END QUOTE--- Mine is 03070 0085 110v so made on 03/07/80 I guess. Funny thing is mine doesn't have the II to indicate it is a Sorcerer 2 but all the doc and looking at the mobo inside seems to indicate it is a 2. Wonder if the original owner swapped it at some point? It does list a model number of DP1000-2. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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C64

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Subject: Re: C64 video > > > > > I tested the three C64s i got and none are getting video on a known working > > composite monitor. im also not getting a beep when i try ^G (assuming a > > speaker is inside the computer) do these systems need an rf modulator or > > require a tv? Control-G Does not produce any noise on the 64. There are no sound routines (except to clear the SID registers at start-up) in the 64 ROMs (I think they were rushed on putting the 64 to market; later they released Super Expander and Simon's BASIC which offered sound commands.) I usually use a game cartridge to check the 64's sound, video and joystick ports. Jumpman Junior seems to be my favored one (mainly because it does not rely on much of the KERNAL/BASIC ROMs in it's operation.) And yes, the Genesis A/V cable is compatible with the 64 (I've used the same cable on both units). -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (300-2400bd) (209) 754-1363 Visit my Commodore 8-Bit web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/commodore.html -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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NeXT system available soon!

by kyrrin＠jps.net

While at RE-PC in Seattle yesterday, I saw that they're working on getting a complete color NeXT system ready to sell. As near as I can tell, this is the 'Pizza Box' configuration with 32 megs RAM. I don't know what size hard drive it has as it had been taken home by one of the guys who was going to load the NeXT OS on it. If interested, give a call to the Seattle store at (206) 623-9151. Ask for Maurice or Jeff and tell them I referred you. Best of luck! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies E-Mail: kyrrin (at) jps [d=o=t] net (munged to screw up spambots) Sent on 13-Sep-98 at 10:25:09, Pacific -- http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin "...No matter how much we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living creature in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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RE-PC Finds

by kyrrin＠jps.net

For those in or near the Seattle area, RE-PC has turned up some pretty cool stuff. First, some intriguing VMEBus systems. From what I can tell, they were made by Charles River Data Systems and, although they may not be terribly useful as a system in their current state, the VME backplane is very much an industry standard and can be adapted to just about any VME cards you might want to plug into it. They also have a pile of Cipher 9-track tape drives. These are the front-loading 880 series, 1600/3200 density, Pertec interface. I've looked over several of them, and most look like they've had barely any use at all (I picked one up yesterday to repair another I already have). And, if you want a rack to put such goodies into, they've got a blortload of retired five-foot high Sun racks. Although wider on the outside than the norm, all appear to be standard 19" on the inside rails. Just about all of 'em are in clean shape, and going for around $50 per. I think, last time I looked, they wanted no more than $20/unit for the tape drives, and I don't think the VME systems would be horribly expensive either. If interested, give a call to the Tukwila store at (206) 575-8737. Ask for Eric Meiney, tell him I referred you, and you're off and running. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies E-Mail: kyrrin (at) jps [d=o=t] net (munged to screw up spambots) Sent on 13-Sep-98 at 08:16:56, Pacific -- http://table.jps.net/~kyrrin "...No matter how much we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living creature in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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NeXT [was Re: Radio Shack Model ][ available (Portland Oregon)]

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

So, let's say this were ported to a C128 or an upgraded 64. Would this allow one to access the 'net? As for ARCnet cards, yes, they're quite common in corporate and government places, along with token ring (I believe IBM supported these two, but not ethernet). I may have a couple. >> someone has crammed UDP, IP and ARP into a tiny PIC microcontroller. >> Does anyone know anything about this? I would kind of like to set >> up my Trs-80 Mod 4 on the net for various reasons. > > I've heard rumors of IP (not TCP/IP, just IP) being written for the C-64 >(along with PPP or SLIP I assume). Apparently, the port only had IP and >ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol---at the same layer as IP) as >nothing else could fit in 64k. IP isn't that difficult (and uncompressed >SLIP is pretty easy as well). UDP is just a user accessable (under UNIX) >version (more or less) of IP (unreliable datagram protocol, but I think UDP >stands for User Datagram Protocol, as a datagram protocol is unreliable by >definition if I recall correctly). > > -spc (Quick question: how common are ARCNET cards for PCs and Tandy > 6000s? I know there are Linux drivers for ARCNET cards, and I > have two Tandy 6000s ... ) > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Osborne Vixen

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> wrote: > Mine only says OSBORNE. I suspect mine has a smaller display than the > production model -- it looks like a 5" diag. If anybody else thinks they > have this same version, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll start > bragging about it on my web page as the only surviving specimen! That is a find. If you can find the Kilobaud that has the photos of Adam Osborne showing off the Vixen, you will note that the one he is showing is configured like that. -Frank McConnell

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Need help with TRS-80 Hard Drive

by bwit＠pobox.com

Hello. I have a "TRS-80 Five Meg Disk System" model 26-1130 that I'd like to use with a Model 4D. The hard drive seems to power up fine but I have no cables to connect it to the Mod4. In addition, the back of the hard drive appears to have a connector missing. On the back of the drive cabinet I see the following: Computer In: empty opening, no cover Control Out: 34 pin male connector Data Out A: empty, metal cover over opening Data Out B: empty, metal cover over opening Data Out C: empty, metal cover over opening Opening the drive case shows no obvious connector where a missing cable might attach. If anyone can assist with information and/or parts please let me know. TIA, Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Withers Do or do not, there is no try. bwit(a)pobox.com Yoda -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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MX test...

by system＠minako.umtec.com

Can you guys ack this please? If it works, I've taught VAX/VMS to speak SMTP...

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HP 3000s avail in CA.

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Hello ListMembers.. I have available for Immediate Adoption the following Hewlett Packard stuff: 2 3000 systems and a 9144 backup device in one cabinet. 2 7914 hard drive units (one damaged mechanically) 1 2563a printer in very nice shape (serial I/O) These Items are in Malibu, CA and are free for the taking. I would prefer not to split up the load unless you are talking significant bux or trade for something I need Real Bad: (VAX 11/750 system; TE16 w/formatter card for Unibus; Kennedy 9300 or vacuum door from same; MINC-11 cards; etc.) Due to weight and size, these things are not shippable. I can be bribed to deliver them in the SoCal area, but it would be Better if you came with a small truck or minivan and rescued them. Also, work logistics pretty much dictate that it must be a weekend rescue. Otherwise.... i don't wanna think about it :( Please consider giving these lonely orphans the security and happiness of a loving home and some 110vac to munch on. I need the space for more DEC stuff. Like that 11/750 I *know* you're hiding. Hint: I'll be home all weekend......... Cheers John

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Recent findings

by roblwill＠usaor.net

---------- > From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Recent findings > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 7:13 PM > > I managed to pick up a Fora LP-386c mini-lunchbox (kinda like some of the > Compaq's). Dated 1989, so almost classic, and my first "F" computer! > > Also, I got a Powerbook 140, which needs work on the screen, but otherwise > seems (afaik) okay. Anyone know how to remove the screen on this? Inside, > it has some interesting connectors. There are some flat... hmmm.. plastic > strips with traces on them (kinda like ultra-flat ribbon cables?) that go > into what look like IDC connectors. Only, you pull up on the top rim of > the IDC-like things, and that releases the ends of the flat things. > Surprised the heck out of me when I was (gently!) trying to pull the whole > thing off. 8^) Those are the same type of connectors that the keyboard on my PS/2 L40sx uses. > > Along with that was a Powerbook Duo 230 & 280, weird connectors for the > power supply; looks like an RCA jack. Anyone know what voltage etc, and > would an RCA plug work? > > Lastly, but not least, is probably the coolest item I've found in a while > -- A Frisbee that says XEROX PARC on it. Very neat! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > > Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad > roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." > Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates > San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ >

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Tandy 1400 HD

by oajones＠bright.net

I have a Tandy 1400 HD collecting dust in my basement. It has a power supply problem and also the battery will need to be replaced. Perhaps someone out there could use this for parts if nothing else. I am asking $25 plus shipping charges. I have the books for it and the original packing box. --Alan

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Apple Computer Parts

by oajones＠bright.net

It is my turn to clean out my basement. Item Quanity ------------------------------------ ------- Digicard, Network Controller Card 7 Tymac, PPC-100 Tackler 2 Digicard, Modem 2 Apple Monitor /// Model #A3M0039 1 Apple Disk Drive ][ Model #A2M0003 3 Apple Unidisk Model #A9M0104 1 Apple ][e (missing 2 keys on keyboard) 1 Apple ][ Plus 2 If you are interested in any of these items please make an offer. I've never used an Apple system. I collected these parts to build one complete system but never got around to it. I don't know what this stuff is worth. I hope someone out there can put this stuff to good use. No reasonable offer will be refused. --Alan

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VIC-20 -- no sound

by mark_k＠iname.com

Marion.Bates(a)Dartmouth.EDU (Marion Bates) wrote: >Or maybe my TV is really weird. There's been an anomaly with the >C64 for as long as I can remember, which is that when I use the >video cable (the one that splits into three RCA's, one for video >and two for sound) with the video-in jacks on the TV, I get a nice, >sharp, black and white display, no color. The C64 provides composite video, luminance, chrominance and audio on its DIN connector. The luminance and chrominance signals are what is nowadays known as S-video or Y/C. The luminance is the brightness information (i.e., a monochrome video signal), the chrominance is the colour information. By having the two signals on separate wires rather than mixing them, picture quality is improved over composite video. Many modern TVs have S-video inputs; a 4-pin mini-DIN socket is used for this. Commodore monitors use two phono sockets, marked L and C. It sounds like you are using a cable designed for connecting a C64 to a Commodore monitor. This will not directly work with your TV's composite video input. As you have found, the best you can do is to get a monochrome picture by connecting the luminance signal. To get the best possible picture quality, buy a lead that has two phono sockets on one end, and an S-video 4-pin mini-DIN connector on the other. You would connect this to the L and C jacks of your C64 video lead, and the S-video port on your TV. However, you may have trouble finding a ready-made lead like this; perhaps building one yourself will be quicker. If your TV does not have an S-video input, you'll need to get another lead that uses the C64's composite video output instead. An A/V lead for the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis 1 console *may* work. >If I use the composite port and a TV/game modulator box, I get (cruddy) color. I think you mean using the RF output and a TV signal switch (as supplied with most game consoles), not a modulator. -- Mark

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Sorry!

by oajones＠bright.net

Please excuse my mistake. I hit "reply" and so I sent some attached files to the entire mail list. --Alan

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Using Commodore 15xx drives on PC's...

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

Someone found this and sent me a link to it, a cable made to allow hookup to any of the Commodore 15xx serial bus drives to your parallel port on your PC. http://www.student.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~mepk/c64/hw/cables/x1541.html ___________________________________________________ Russ Blakeman, aka "Pooter Fixer" Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.xoom.com/pooterfixer/ ___________________________________________________

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New? Find

by franke＠sbs.de

> On 11 Sep 98, at 14:30, Hans Franke wrote: >> I think it will be sold on some kind of fleamarket. They also >> destroyed some stuff, opened two originaly packed Atari 400, >> trashed an Enterprise. They also took a prototype BTX telephone >> unit an various small stuff - including almost all of my C64 >> and VC20 cartridges. Also one of the PETs is gone (an ordinary >> 4016) and, thats the funiest thing, the CRT of a Sirus - only >> the CRT the computer and the stand is still available. > Arg, destroyed an Enterprise? That's one I've always wanted to see > but since the company had a short life in Europe only I don't > expect I will. Hmm brings up two questions: First: Is there already an Enterprise for display (Juhu Sa-a-am) ? Second: Will you be attending VCF ? If no for the first question, I could take the remainings and put it up on display - but if no for the second, I'm sooo sorry :) Gruss H. P.S.: Sam, answer quick, since I will do last Email-check in about 2 hours. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Murphy & Profiles

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

What is this, Murphy strikes again? I moved my Apple /// so I could open it all up and insert the new SoftCard ///. I have 2 profile hard drives and placed one on its side beside some bookshelves while I worked on the ///. A few minutes later I hear a crash and look over at the shelf. The middle shelf had dropped down and dumped everything on top of the profile knocking it over and burying it. These shelves have been doing just fine for over 5 years, why now? At least the SoftCard is in and working fine. I now have CP/M installed and working with the other profile. I now only have one slot left open, what else is available for the ///? As for the other profile, I guess it is still ok. I've never used it and I'm not sure if I want to use it on my ///. You see, it has a hand written label on the front which says the Lisa Office System (scratched out) and below that MacWorks 3.0 12/16/85. I can't decide if I want to format it and use it on my /// or save it in case I ever get a Lisa. Any way to copy off anything on it without a Lisa? Could the Lisa format be read from a ///? Ok, it's a shot in the dark. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Mystery cartridge -- help identify?

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 08:36 PM 9/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >resistors and capacitors. On the circuitboard it says "NAVARONE (C)" and >next to the contacts where the little carbon pad on the underside of the IIRC, Navarone made a video interface for (at least) the Atari ST -- plug your camcorder/vcr into the cart, plug the cart into the computer, and capture images. Kinda like the Snappy thing you can get these days. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Radio Shack Model ][ available (Portland Oregon)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Does anyone know if a TRS-80 Model II hard drive will work with a TRS-80 Model III? Are they the same thing? -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: George Rachor <george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Radio Shack Model ][ available (Portland Oregon) > Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 12:53 AM > > I have decided at long last to part with a Model 2 of unknown condition. > The only thing I know is that the keyboard cable is slightly crushed at > the keyboard connector end. The System comes with a couple of hard drives > also of unknown condition. > > Please be prepared to pick this up in the Beaverton Oregon area as this > isn't something that I'd really want to ship. > > ========================================================= > George L. Rachor george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com > Beaverton, Oregon http://racsys.rt.rain.com >

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WTB: TRS-80 stuff.

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I pretty much got it working (aside from a few keys on the keyboard). I basically had to just hose the boards down, because they weren't just submerged in water, they were submerged in sewage. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Keith Whitehead <K.J.Whitehead(a)massey.ac.nz> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: WTB: TRS-80 stuff. > Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 4:56 PM > > Well water (especially Distilled water) is a great start for this sort of > thing. > However I always rinse the boards thoughly with ethanol (If you can > submerge them for a half hour or so even better), this will displace the > water in all of those hard to get places. After this I would then go > through the drying out process...Oh BTW do this is a well ventilated > area...you can get very drunk from the fumes :-), take note that ethanol > can attack some plastics and may affect some solder masks and screen > printing, so you may want to try iso-propyl alcohol...its less abusive. > > Cheers > > > > > k.j.whitehead(a)massey.ac.nz > > Keith Whitehead > Electronics Technician > Electronics Services > Institute of Fundamental Sciences > Massey University > Palmerston North > New Zealand > 5301 > > >

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Sun Machines for the Taking

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi All: I am attempting to break up the logjam in the basement, and have the following machines available to any interested parties: - Sun 3/50; - Sun 3/60. Both are in working order, but the 3/60 has an inoperative CG4 frame buffer. No matter, you can boot it off of the serial port. No monitors, and you would have to supply a SCSI hard disk. Both can run SunOS or NetBSD. Free for the taking, limit one per person. I'd prefer you to pick up, but I could be convinced to ship as long as you pay for it. I also have a spare Sun 4/110, this one has a keyboard, mouse, and hard drive, with NetBSD installed on it. I'm looking to recoup $100 for this machine, however! I'm located near Vancouver, BC. Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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WTB: Portable

by roblwill＠usaor.net

That would have been exactly what I would have needed, although I would have needed the CRT, too. The mention of the 8088 board reminded me of something: Is there any way to convert an XT keyboard to make it work with an AT? If so, how? ThAnX, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: WTB: Portable > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 11:47 PM > > > Well, I'd offer the relatively gutted Compaq portable I got free at > the last Trenton festival, but I'm sort of in the middle of building > a TRS-80 Color Computer 3 into the beast. (The 8088 board is a wall > decoration, wasn't worth fixing). > -- > Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/> > > When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked me if I had any > firearms with me. I said "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright

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Looking for RX01 Floppies

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi Gang: I am looking for some RX01 8" floppies, for use in my recently-acquired RX01 drives (thanks go to John Lawson!!). I can trade a few boxes of 5-1/4" DD floppies for them. Software on the diskettes would be a bonus (OS/8 would be great!) but is not a requirement. I just need some floppies that I can use in my new drives. Thanks, Kevin -- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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VAX 11/750s everywhere

by jpl15＠netcom.com

But not within 1000 miles of El-Lay, dammit! I would love to find a '750 system. Preferrably with a TE16 and RL02s. And docs and software. Is that too much to ask of the Universe? O Great Gods of Scrap: Just one 11/750, then I'll shut up. I promise. sigh. John.

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Vax 730 FS

by WHoagIII＠aol.com

I have a Vax 730 for sale in Portland, Oregon. I am open to all offers above scrap. Please reply directly to whoagiii(a)aol.com.

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Recent finds...

by karlm＠blitzen.canberra.edu.au

Today I had to transfer a vast quantity of old computers from one uni faculty down to residences (where I am sysadmin), now this load of equipment was mainly older PC's, and some Apple II and Mac stuff, now the interesting part.. Amongst the boxes of disks there is a box of about 30 hard-sectored disks, including a couple labelled 'CP/M Ver 2.2 Rev 1.2.1 9600 Baud, PIP,FILES,SYSGEN,STAT,DO(=SUBMIT),DSKCOPY(=COPY)' and a few disks of something called "GDOS". Also I was given a few shelves full of technical books, including what appears to be a complete set of Philips component books, as well as other data books, and the most interesting being the Motorola 8-bit devices manual, and a Kaypro technical manual. There is also a collection of Kaypro PC's. Would this be CP/M-86 or the Z80 version,and are they useful to anyone? Cheers Karl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Karl Maftoum Computer Engineering student at the University of Canberra, Australia Email: k.maftoum(a)student.canberra.edu.au

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Bye

by franke＠sbs.de

I will leve the list for the next 3 weeks - I think thats way better than to read one zillion mails :) Bis zum VCF (See you at the VCF) Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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C64 video

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-11 18:10:36 EDT, you write: << Older machines have a 5 pin DIN socket, later ones have an 8 pin one. I can look up the pinouts if you need them. >> yes, that would be great. one socket has 6 pins, the other has 8 pins.

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VIC-20 -- no sound

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

--- Tony Duell wrote: What you need is a cable with the tips of the plugs connected to pins 5 and 3 (and the sleeves to pin 2). That's actually a very common audio cable - I would think RatShack would have one. --- end of quote --- They didn't, so I made one to match your description here. It checks out fine with the multimeter, but I still get video with no audio. Leads me to believe there's a problem with the VIC itself. Or maybe my TV is really weird. There's been an anomaly with the C64 for as long as I can remember, which is that when I use the video cable (the one that splits into three RCA's, one for video and two for sound) with the video-in jacks on the TV, I get a nice, sharp, black and white display, no color. If I use the composite port and a TV/game modulator box, I get (cruddy) color. I've checked every setting I can find on the TV for color/B&W stuff, but everything looks right. ??? Thanks again for the help. -- MB

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Recent findings

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

I managed to pick up a Fora LP-386c mini-lunchbox (kinda like some of the Compaq's). Dated 1989, so almost classic, and my first "F" computer! Also, I got a Powerbook 140, which needs work on the screen, but otherwise seems (afaik) okay. Anyone know how to remove the screen on this? Inside, it has some interesting connectors. There are some flat... hmmm.. plastic strips with traces on them (kinda like ultra-flat ribbon cables?) that go into what look like IDC connectors. Only, you pull up on the top rim of the IDC-like things, and that releases the ends of the flat things. Surprised the heck out of me when I was (gently!) trying to pull the whole thing off. 8^) Along with that was a Powerbook Duo 230 & 280, weird connectors for the power supply; looks like an RCA jack. Anyone know what voltage etc, and would an RCA plug work? Lastly, but not least, is probably the coolest item I've found in a while -- A Frisbee that says XEROX PARC on it. Very neat! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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the haul (revisited)

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Okay, yesterday I posted about a bunch of commodore stuff a friend gave me in the process of cleaning out his trailor. Here is the skinny. The 64 works, but the keyboard has about had it. A and RETURN don't work without wiggling them. I seem to recall keyboards for this machine for about 5 bucks in surplus catalogs. I'll sell it for $10 +shipping. Includes power supply (the white brick kind, possibly from a 64c?) and manual. The 1541 works flawlessly. I'm kind of surprized, mine was a finicky piece of junk. This one appears to be the later model of '41 with the rectangular access light. I'll sell it for $20 + shipping. I *think* I have a manual for this too. I didn't try the printer. It's a Seikosia sp1000vc, looks intact, but has no ribbon. If you want it, make me an offer + shipping. The monitor is junk. It works, but unless you live near Colorado Springs and like to frotz with monitors internally it's not worth mailing. Picture quality is worse than a cheap TV. If you live nearby and want it let me know and you can have it. Vicmodem - Don't know. Haven't got a phone line near where I was testing and I've long since forgotten how to use a vicmodem. May already be spoken for. has the disk it shipped with, which has victerm, 64 term, and quantumlink. All prices are in US dollars, and all the hardware is designed to run on US current with US video screens. I've already had several people express interest in the cartriges and the software, and I've sent e-mail to the person who sent the oldest timestamped message. This person also wanted the vicmodem. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)calico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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new addition(s)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

ive found the best way to find old machines is to let as many people know as possible. a coworker knew i collected old machines and he gave me a very clean rom3 apple //gs that works great along with a matching monochrome monitor in its box. also got a clean //c and also got 3 C64s with 3 disk drives along with the little matching dot matrix printer and all the power supplies. anyone interested in the C64s? ive also got to pick up a sanyo mbc1000 cpm machine which ive never heard of, and i also have a lead on some dec equipment. all i know is it's some terminals, cables and tapes. i've requested a detailed list of what's available. if there's anything i dont want i'll be sure to let the subscribers to this list have first craic. david

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Murphy's Law axes my 44...

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Isn't it funny how that law *ALWAYS* works? Here's the story: 44 is on a sturdy (I thought...) cart, ready to be moved into a larger room with more power available. Then RA81, and 2 BA boxes. Cart is stood toward the middle of the server room overnight, so if it does fall, nothing gets damaged, right? Try again. About 7:00, Linux server dies. Funny. I come in to investigate this morining. Arrive to the gentle beep of UPSes. Spot the 44 in multiple parts on the floor, shit pants, see the cart against the opposite wall (Or as close as it could get, there was crud in it's way...) Apparently, the 44 dove off the cart about 6:00, the distro panel for the DH11 caught the power line of a strip loaded with gear on the way down, sliced it open, and made for a small electrical fire. Total damage: A hefty dose of 120AC on the DH distro board, and I snapped the switch of the second BA11 (AAAAARRRRRGGGHHH! NOT AGAIN!), but it seems to be OK. The traces (appear to be) OK on the distro panel, so I may be able to clean the scorch mark off. As for that powerstrip, it shorted, blackened part of the wall, and nailed the power to 2 of our servers when it blew the breaker for the wall it was attached to. I hate life... -------

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pdp-11 software license and RT-11 V5.3

by gentry＠zk3.dec.com

Recently, there was a flurry of messages regarding a license found in the RT-11 V4 tar-ball on gatekeeper.dec.com. The license appeared to be one which conveyed rights for hobbyist users of pdp-11 software from Mentec. After consulting with Mentec and Bob Supnik (praised be he for negotiating the deal), and after combing my archives for a copy of the binary distribution of RT V5.3 (which I provided to Bob Supnik for him to package up with the license), I am pleased to announce that the license has been confirmed by Mentec, and that there is at least a copy of the RT-11 V5.3 distribution kit available on: ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/digital/sim/software/rtv53swre.tar.Z I'm sure that there is work being done on obtaining distribution copies of other license-covered software. Watch this space for further notices about software. For the sake of good will between Mentec and hobbyists, please DO NOT start making copies of RT or any other pdp-11 software available from other locations without it first coming from gatekeeper. Also, please read and abide by the terms of the license. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry(a)zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg(a)world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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More on emulation, Linus and Transmeta from TBTF

by jfoust＠threedee.com

..Say it ain't so, Luke Watching the watchers watch Transmeta Transmeta, the Silicon Valley company that employs Linus Torvalds, isn't saying what kind of technology it's working on. (Their Web site says, succinctly if paradoxically, "This web page is not here yet.") The Red Herring tried to find out what they are up to -- or perhaps their account of the attempt, "Stalking Transmeta," [17] is all in good fun. PC Magazine prints a more substantial guess [18]: > [Transmeta] has been working for about two years on a CPU for > PCs, which is rumored to have its own internal instruction set > but to use a fast software translator to execute x86 instruc- > tions. Transmeta has raised a large (undisclosed) amount of > venture capital and is well staffed; a product debut is likely > in 1999. In the NY Times for 8/31, John Markoff relays a rumor [19] that he says has some Sili Valley techies quite upset. Markoff's article is mostly about evidence of increasing strain in the "Wintel" alliance. One factor contributing to the wobble is the rapid growth of technology areas such as telephony and personal digital assistants that do not use Intel hardware or Microsoft software. Microsoft has an entrant at this end of the market -- Windows CE -- but Intel is seen as concentrating in- creasingly on the shrinking top end. (Its purchase of Digital's StrongArm technology may have been reduced in value by the defec- tion of key technical talent.) If Transmeta, which was founded by a former Sun Sparc architect, is working on a platform for portable computing -- let's call it a "media chip" [20] -- what OS will it run? Well, with Linus on board, you would assume the answer would be "Linux, duh." Some flavor of Java would certainly be a contender. But Markoff says the word is that Transmeta may run Microsoft software. A hardware designer is quoted thus: > It would be a little like hiring Luke Skywalker and then > turning the whole organization over to Darth Vader. [17] http://www.herring.com/mag/issue58/stalking.html [18] http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/cpu98/intro10.html [19] http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/98/08/biztech/articles/31chip.html [20] http://www.techweb.com/se/directlink.cgi?EET19980706S0069 ____________________________________________ TBTF home and archive at http://www.tbtf.com/ . To subscribe send the message "subscribe" to tbtf-request(a)world.std.com. TBTF is Copyright 1994-1998 by Keith Dawson, <dawson(a)world.std.com>. Com- mercial use prohibited. For non-commercial purposes please forward, post, and link as you see fit.

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ATARI 1040ST w/monitor

by lff＠unique-inc.com

Would you be interested in an ATARI 1040ST computer with the SC1224 monitor? I have a host of software for it, include dBASE, word processors, a C language compiler, and others. I also have a handful of games. Larry Fisher Unique Computer Services Inc. lff(a)unique-inc.com (732) 786-0111 x104 (voice) (732) 786-0097 (fax)

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C64 video

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I tested the three C64s i got and none are getting video on a known working composite monitor. im also not getting a beep when i try ^G (assuming a speaker is inside the computer) do these systems need an rf modulator or require a tv? david

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Making and using PDP-11 disk images

by CLASSICCMP＠timaxp.trailing-edge.com

>Could someone provide a quick tutorial on how the process works? All you need is one page out of the RT-11 manuals: that for COPY/DEV/FI. As an example, if you've got a RX02 that you want an image of, and you're going to put that image on a RL02 and call it "MYRX02.DSK", you do: COPY/DEVICE/FILE DY0: DL0:MYRX02.DSK Then you use Kermit (or, if you're like me and have a half-dozen networked PDP-11's, you just use FTP) to move the image off to whatever other place you might want to put the image. To do the reverse operation, you'd (or course!) do: COPY/FILE/DEVICE DL0:MYRX02.DSK DY0: Note that doing this under RT-11, you *only* get the blocks that RT-11 usually addresses on the disk. There are the usual caveats about track zero on 8" floppies and the bad block forwarding table on RL02's; these are well-discussed in the RT-11 _Software Support Manual_ in the sections on individual drivers, and the .SPFUN ways of reading these areas are also thoroughly documented. Also note that in doing this, you'll be copying every block on the disk, even those not included in a file. Don't get burned like some others have and end up copying proprietary or personal data that you didn't want copied when you make the image! Bob Schor has a program called "CLEAR.SAV", that is available from the 11S113 RT DECUS SIG symposium tape, that will clear out blocks not allocated to a file. This, and many other useful utilities from Bob, are available from: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/rt/decus… ----- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917 7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817

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treasure haul

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

A buddy of mine is packing up to move and asked me if I'd like to take a "bunch of computer junk" off his hands. Now that I have it home, I find I have: 1 commodore 64. 1 composite monitor for a 64. 1 1541 floppy drive. 1 Sekosia(?) printer with a C=64 interface. 1 vic 1600 modem. 1 Apple Printer. lots of manuals and stuff for the 2e I bought from him earlier. lots of manuals, cartriges, and software for the 64. I haven't had a chance to test anything but the printer, which appears to work (although as usual my GS doesn't seem to LIKE it much. I may wind up switching back to my epson lx800 with that machine.) Once I've tested the 64 and whatnot to make sure it works, and messed about with the software I always wanted to have but could never afford, I'm probably going to get rid of it. And I can't quite put my finger on why, since I was a '64 owner until 1990. Maybe its that I would miss the custom hardware I had. Or that I can't imagine going back to a 60 column screen. Or the non-standard interfaces for EVERYTHING on it. I dunno. Does it make sense that I wouldn't be nostalgic for the machine I actually owned, as opposed to the apple2s? *shrug* Anyway. Just a heads up for you Commodore folk out there. :) -Jim -- Jim Strickland jim(a)calico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mystery cartridge -- help identify?

by museum＠techniche.com

Hi Jason, I can't precisely identify what you have but I've got a navarone cartridge connector somewhere in my collection. They were a small company and the connector I have allow you to have 3 cartridges connected to the TI99/4a at once. there was a switch to select the cartridge that you wanted to be active and a reset button if I remember correctly. This allow you to switch cartridges *without* reseting the computer or putting too much wear on your cartridges. This was very useful in certain circumstances such as when using the assembler cartridge. You wolld use it in this way to examine the workings of ther cartridges. Maybe your device serves a somewhat similar function. Jon > >Perhaps this list can help me identify something I just picked up. > >It's a white plastic cartridge with a 44-pin male card-edge connector and a >light blue plastic female passthru for the same type of connector. It has a >square black plastic button on top. It is (was) glued shut. Inside there is >an 24-pin EEPROM (88251A+ MM2716Q) with a Mitsubish Electric sticker >covering the window, a 14-pin IC (P234 DM7400N), and another 14-pin IC (EL >SALVADOR 1820-0328 7936 <Texas Instruments Logo> SN7402N). And two small >resistors and capacitors. On the circuitboard it says "NAVARONE (C)" and >next to the contacts where the little carbon pad on the underside of the >button makes contact, it says "TOP". > >It looked about the right size for a C64 cartridge, but it doesn't do >anything. > >Any ideas? Too bad I pretty much destroyed the case while opening it. It >was glued shut pretty tight. > > -jrs > >_______________________________________________________________________ > \/|/\ | Jason Simpson | http://www.xio.com/jason/ > /\|\/ | jason(a)xio.com | Wanted: '87-90 Volkswagen Fox 2 Door Wagon >

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robots?

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

I was just watching a thing on robots and they mentioned some of the early 80s attempts. Does anyone have in their collection a H.E.R.O, or other robots of that vintage? -- Jim Strickland jim(a)calico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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IBM System 34 and 36 questions

by WHoagIII＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-10 23:23:46 EDT, you write: << I have just acquired several large pieces of equipment and I have some questions about them. I haven't moved them yet- some of these questions concern moving them. What I have are an IBM System 34 (model 5340), an IBM System 36 (model 5360), two tape drives (model 8809-1C), and two printers (model 3262-B1), plus some manuals and tapes. Everything is supposed to be in working order- they upgraded and pulled the plug. 1. How much do these things weigh? The computer person there estimated 2000 lb. for the 34, 1000 lb. for the 36, 700 lb. on the printers and 500 lb. on the tape drives. Does that sound about right? The weights are about right. A good loading dock or a good forklift is necessary. 2. How possible is partial dismantling for transport? I didn't get to tear into them to look. Loading access is fairly good in the building they are in, but unloading the 34 could be tricky. It would help if I could lighten them up. Genarally they are on wheels and are not taken apart to be moved. I don't know the configuation of the 34. It is possible it could be composed of several parts, but looking at the model number I think it is one piece.. I have moved several of these systems and usually I rent a truck with a railgate type of liftgate on it. These have a larger deck and ride flatter. Hopefully the truck matches the dock. Use a flat dock plate. If there is a mismatch put a piece of sheet steel over the dock plate to reate a smooth surface to roll on. IBM made a little wire U shaped clip (bent at the bottom of the U) that is used to keep the wheels from rolling. This can hold the unit still untill you can tie it down. Remember there is lots of mass involved. It is best to tie off each machine. 3. What needs to be done before moving? Head locking, moving or removing anything, stuff like that. At each corner near the wheels are leveling screws. these need to be raised with a crescent wrench, all the way up. Other less important stuff that I'm curious about: 4. What kind of interface does it have to the terminals? 5. What kind of power does it need? I'd assume 3 phase 220v. It could be single phase. 6. How much computing power is this? Compared to a VAX 11/750, say. 7. How will these things tolerate living in an unheated building over winter? I live in IL. They should survive if you don't try to power them up. They want to be warm to run. Any other hints and tips would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to be able to move these machines without damage (to the machines or me). I went there today mainly as a recon mission, but they convinced me to take home a Wang word processing system. The server is a model OIS-60X, and it has 4 terminals hooked up by RS336 (?) over coax (BNC connectors), plus a laser printer. I think the printer weighs more than the server. I got a bunch of cartridges for it, and some Canon copier cartridges too, "because they're almost the same". I think not. >> If the Laser printer is an LDP-8 then the Canon Carts should work. The engine is a Canon SX I think.

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treasure haul

by thedm＠sunflower.com

When or IF you get rid of it, im very interested in that monitor. -----Original Message----- From: Jim <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:19 PM Subject: treasure haul >A buddy of mine is packing up to move and asked me if I'd like to take a "bunch >of computer junk" off his hands. Now that I have it home, I find I have: > >1 commodore 64. >1 composite monitor for a 64. >1 1541 floppy drive. >1 Sekosia(?) printer with a C=64 interface. >1 vic 1600 modem. >1 Apple Printer. >lots of manuals and stuff for the 2e I bought from him earlier. >lots of manuals, cartriges, and software for the 64. > >I haven't had a chance to test anything but the printer, which appears to >work (although as usual my GS doesn't seem to LIKE it much. I may wind up >switching back to my epson lx800 with that machine.) > >Once I've tested the 64 and whatnot to make sure it works, and messed about >with the software I always wanted to have but could never afford, I'm probably >going to get rid of it. And I can't quite put my finger on why, since I was >a '64 owner until 1990. Maybe its that I would miss the custom hardware I had. >Or that I can't imagine going back to a 60 column screen. Or the non-standard >interfaces for EVERYTHING on it. I dunno. Does it make sense that I wouldn't >be nostalgic for the machine I actually owned, as opposed to the apple2s? > >*shrug* > >Anyway. Just a heads up for you Commodore folk out there. :) > >-Jim >-- >Jim Strickland >jim(a)calico.litterbox.com >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? >-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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uVAX II sleeping...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > < Cycling 'HALT' on the front panel causes the usual 'break' monitor < > < printout and the pc state. The LED displays '8' and that's it... I < > < have let it go for 10 minutes.... < > < > I think it's waiting for a terminal. < < < Ummmm, on power-up? I'm hooked to the 9-pin console port... < maybe I should jumper RTS-CTS on the two other DB25s? Or is it < wating for something on the ethernet port? Nope step 8 is language inquery and if it's not printing a list to respond to then the halt button is in. Step 9 is identify the terminal. If the terminal cannot or does not respond I belive it will continue. Do check the settings of the halt and run buttons and The switches on the rear pannel. Allison

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