- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

OK, you can have it. How would you like to pay? > >Yes I would, but I went to a thrift store and they didn't have any. >--Chuck > >At 04:15 PM 9/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>This isn't really classic, but since the Newton is out of production, >>I thought someone might be interested in a shrinkwrapped modem for >>the Newton for $8 at a thrift store. I think it might get hard to get >>one from Apple... >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Timex Sinclair 2068

by oajones＠bright.net

I have a Timex Sinclair 2068 that needs a good home. The computer is in very good condition. I don't have any documentation for it. If you are interested please email me. I'm asking $40 which also includes shipping costs. --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Military Computers: COMTRAN 10, Nida 250 Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones

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Timex Sinclair 2068

by oajones＠bright.net

Can someone tell me what voltage and current are used for the power supply on the Timex Sinclair 2068? Also what is the tip polarity? --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Military Computers: COMTRAN 10, Nida 250 Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones

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Dilog DQ614 and DQ615

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

I'm searching for any info on the following two Q-Bus controller boards: Dilog DQ614 rev. N RL01/02 Emulation using MFM disks Dilog DQ615 rev. B RK06/07 Emulation using MFM disks I was able to find a procedure using DejaNews for setting up a DQ614K, it looks like I can't do much of anything without a floppy, is there any way to get one still, and is it really needed? I'm also trying to figure out exactly what these boards will accept for drives. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Where to find Vax stuff in Mass.

by mbg＠world.std.com

(and I'm just down the road from Allison, also in Framingham)... You could try Eli's (formerly Eli Heffron) in cambridge... They've had lots of dec stuff in the past, and in fact I've gotten some of my stuff (a BA23) from them... They have LOTS of 'junk'... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Quantum Q540 as a RD52

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:44:40 -0400 Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)servtech.com> writes: >number. It is a Vertex Peripherals model V185 hung off a 3rd-party >controller designated as "UDC11". What can anybody tell me about that >Vertex product? Equivalent RD- number? Durability? Etc.? I remember the V-185 well. They were used by 3Com in their 3server70, and 3Server3 line of file servers. They were made by Vertex, who later became a division of Priam. They are tough, reliable drives, as long as they work. When they break, they tend to totally self-destruct. They are also RLL-Rated, one of the few 'stock' drives (that I know of) that didn't require a design change for this capability. I have no idea what the RD- designation would be, but I can tell you it's geometry is 1166cyl x 7h x 17s for mfm or 28spt for RLL. They're good drives. They're also rather scarce. Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Email address changes

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > I hope you don't send me any mail or post any messages from your < >earthlink address. I've gotten tons of SPAM from earthlink and they're < >permanent part of my SPAM filters now. < < I find this all rather disturbing. What am I supposed to do if I want t < get in contact with one of you guys who is blocking email from earthlink < Surely not use Hotmail or my AOL account! Unfortunatly the spammers are address spoofing earthlink and earthlink customers suffer. It was a matter of practical necessity as most of the spammer were faking the earthink address and there were far to many different addresses of the spammers... simplest path. Allison

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Newton modem

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

This isn't really classic, but since the Newton is out of production, I thought someone might be interested in a shrinkwrapped modem for the Newton for $8 at a thrift store. I think it might get hard to get one from Apple... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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More monitor Repair

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

If it is something shutting down, could be a paperclip or something. > >> >> While we're on monitor repair: >> I picked up an IBM PS/1 SVGA which when turned on flashes a normal >> screen for less than a second, which collapses and then displays a slowly >> degrading squiggly vertical line which gradually shortens and blanks. > >A MDA monitor does something like that on switch-off, but then that CRT >has a rediculously long persistance phosphor... > >Do just check that it's not the main PSU shutting down (and leaving the >monitor to run on the charge in some of the caps). Does the power-on lamp >remain on, for example (if there is one). What about the CRT heater? > >My guess is that the horizontal output stage is shutting down (but the >EHT is staying up for some reason). Assuming that they are separate, I'd >start by looking at the horizontal driver and output stages, their >operating voltages, etc > >Alas I don't have schematics for any IBM monitor apart from the first 3 >(5151, 5153, 5154). > >-tony > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Does anyone have a list of KL10 console commands?

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Was it like the KS10 console? Or more like the Large-VAX console? -------

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Email address changes

by workapulo＠my-dejanews.com

Just wanted to let people know that I'm trimming the number of email addresses I use down a bit.

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Email address changes

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< apulo1(a)earthlink.net < and < workapulo(a)my-dejanews.com < < I dont use the dejanews account much, mostly just to read my popmail (fr that;s a shame as I had to out earthlink.com in my spam filter due to the large number of spam using that address. Allison

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Don Tarbell's computer

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hi Sam and all, At 11:34 AM 9/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >If you're not aware of this, Don Tarbell, of the famous Tarbell Cassette >standard, died earlier this year. Someone posted about this on the list >around the time he passed on. > I called Don about 18 months ago asking if he could give me some information on his earlier homebrew computers. I know he started in the mid 1960's with a RTL (resistor transistor logic) system. He didn't know where to locate any at that time. I also said I'd be interested in other earlier computer literature. I knew a little about his cassette interface from BYTE ads. He and his wife Brenda took my mumber. Well this week she called, She had taken care of most things and was moving this Sat. She had a small box of literature that I could pick up if I wanted it. I said Sure! The box has several of the Micro 8 newsletters, some IMSAI stuff, some 1977 Bytes, source code listings for Processor Tech Basic-5 and Software package No. 1, +... I was happy to have found it. Her last trash pickup would have been the next day. Why I'm writing is thrown out at the street was his (their) last homebrew computer, "PUTER". Brenda said I was welcome to it. She had spent many hours soldering the boards, they had dropped all work on it when the Altair came out. I would like to get it to do at least something. The problem which makes it (maybe too) difficult is that ALL documentation is lost. Many wires are broken. I have 3 units: 1. the rack "mainframe" which include 16 address lights, 8 data switches, 4 "file address" switches + about 10 others. The main power supply is 5V, 15 Amp. The backplane has space for 16 cards. There are 8. 2. A spare? cardcage with 7 misc I/O cards? The edge connectors are wired partially, but it looks like a card storage unit. 3. A "GA" logo core memory card, 15 x17 inches (38x43cm). Not sure if it was connected. Brenda said Don collected all types of computer surplus for his projects. I left behind a hard disk unit in a rack in very poor condition. The single platter had been exposed for over 10 years... Most of the cards are Douglas Electronics 11DE5. (They are in San Leandro in N. Ca. and still sell these. You can see their line at www.douglas.com. they also sell DEC, S-100 and other form cards at attractive prices, in my opinion, if anyone needs them.) The cards 11DE5 hold up to 36 16 pin dips. They are soldered together with vari-colored telephone wire. (AWG 24, about 0.5mm). Am example of what I have is a serial card (from the DB-25S) which contains 20 IC's. 3-7401 2-7402 2-7404 1-7421 1-7427 1-7430 1-7442 2-7474 2-7496 5 bit shift reg. 1-74163 1-74180 parity gen. 2-9602 (T. and R clocks) 1-8273 10 bit shift register. This was in the "spare" cardcage. Have not traced this board circuit or any other yet! May start with a simple one with only 8 IC's. Have not recognized any computer function yet, such as a ALU, address latch, etc. Should I start by finding the data and address busses on the backplanes? Or does this sound like an impossibly long task??? Brenda said this system was used to start development on a cassette system before S-100 came along. It is really amazing that he interfaced a hard disk to it and wrote an operating system for it. She said one output devicer was an X-Y recorder. If anyone has any of the Amateur Computer Society issues that have any descriptions, I would be very interested. -Dave

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Monitor repair

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Here's one that has me going... Gateway2000 crystal scan (1572 FS): Problem: display from cold start is 75% of normal size, warms up to normal after about 10 minutes. Color and aspect ratio excellent as is focus even in shrunken form. Chill spray on components cannot cause the display to shrink. Any clues on this one? I have no prints... As tubes go this one is fairly nice. Allison

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Monitor repair

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Speaking of monitor repairs, does anyone know how to get rid of that annoying whistling that some of the older monitors have? I have an old Magnavox that is a GREAT monitor (CGA/Herc/Composite, color/green w/ built-in sound), but it whistles like a tea kettle (O.K., that's a bit exaggerated, but it's pretty bad). I've been told to put glue on the flyback, but where? Also, speaking about that monitor, there's two sockets on the back: TTL RGB Lin RGB I have the TTL RGB cable, which will work with CGA (standard 9-pin). I don't have the Lin RGB cable, and the connector for it is a 6 pin DIN jack (the one for the TTL RGB is also an DIN connector - 8-pin). What is the Lin RGB for, and what is the pinout for it? I got the monitor used for two bucks, so I don't have a manual. ThAnX, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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Where to find Vax stuff in Mass.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Sounds like a dumb question and probably is. I have moved from Chicago < to a small town in < Massachussetts (Randolph). Is there a "junkyard" where one can find Va < stuff? There maybe but I don't know of one. I'm down the road in Framingham. Being as eastern MA used to be called the "greater Maynard area" by DEC people (Digits) there should be more than I see around. They arent scarce either. Colleges are a good place to look. Allison

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IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socket (Off topic)

by cfandt＠servtech.com

At 23:08 22-09-98 -0400, you wrote: >> Yeah man! Where???????!!!!!!! I'll rent a tent and camp out at the place >> which has one until either they get tired of it or that Y2K thing obsoletes >> it. W. Donzelli would be camping right next to me I think. > >No, I will be letting the air of your car's tires. Oh no you won't ;) I'll get a set of those new Michelin Zero Pressure tires (ones which the TV ad shows a 3/4" hole being drilled in the sidewall and the car driving away; 55 MPH for 50 miles... [howzat work anyway?]) > >> Seriously, that would be, in my opinion, the most excellent find! As I >> mentioned, I have never heard of any around these days. They were, I >> believe, not the typical mainline computers one would hear of in business >> like the S/360's and S/370's. Weren't they more used in R&D and academia >> because of their ability to handle number crunching not so much as >> databases like a business application would? > >I know little about 1103s, but they were indeed built for number crunching >for people that could not afford a big S/360. The 1103 is related to the >1800, used for process control (leading to the S/7). You must have been tired at 23:08 when you wrote this :) It's an IBM 1130. Since the 1130 is related to the 1800, I would like to lookup info on the 1800 machine. Any online leads? --Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/

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Removing mailing label gunk

by manney＠lrbcg.com

An Epson gas eaten several mailing labels over the years (I think at least _some_ of the labels must be 10 years old!). What's good stuff to remove the gunk without melting the plastic? Thanks, manney

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by lwalker＠mail.interlog.com

While we're on monitor repair: I picked up an IBM PS/1 SVGA which when turned on flashes a normal screen for less than a second, which collapses and then displays a slowly degrading squiggly vertical line which gradually shortens and blanks. Likely some classic symptom . Any ideas ? ciao larry lwalker(a)interlog.com

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Monitor repair

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< I have the same monitor. Don't have the same problem, though. It may b < just the picture tube warming up, which would explain why the chill spra < doesn't do anything. Although 10 minutes seems like an awfully long tim < for tube warm-up. Mine gets to full size, and warmed up in about 15 < seconds. It's from 1992 (or93). This is fromn a friend and was retrired because this wasn't normal operation. The tube should be warm in a minute or so but the diplay growth takes a good 10-15minuts to reach normal. It is otherwise stable. It's in very good shape but is was used every day for over 4 hours a sitting. My first thought was power supply but any point I've measured is stable on warm up. Allison

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EDSAC on your desk.

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

>A simulator (in general) preserves one aspect of the machine - a platform >on which to run the original programs. What it doesn't preserve is any >feel of the hardware, any of the hardware techniques that were in use at >that time, the construction methods, etc. Have you seen the Apple II emulator 'II in a Mac' for the 68000 Macs? It placed the moitor, a keyboard, joystick, four floppy drives, printer, and a clock on the screen. Then you could actually click on the keyboard's keys or move the joystick on the screen with the mouse. A really neat interface which, IMHO, did a half decent job at preserving the hardware's feel. It's a shame more emulators don't do such a good job at portraying the hardware. Tom Owad -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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Quantum Q540 as a RD52

by CLASSICCMP＠timaxp.trailing-edge.com

>Thank you from me too, Tim!!!! You're welcome! > I'm going to later this fall/winter try to >start-up my MicroPDP-11/73 and MicroVAX-II machines (along with an 11/34A, >11/24 and 11/23, maybe the VAX-11/730.) Of course, there are a couple of >RD's involved within the uPDP and uVAX here. I've been slow in putting RQDX3 details on sunsite's PDP-11 archive, I will admit, mainly because I despise RD-series MFM drives. Most of this is because I don't get called in until the RD drive is very sick and dying, and of course the users didn't make any backups for the past decade! You better believe that I charge a sizable fee for data recovery/system restoration in this case! -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917 7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817

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(fwd) Actual Shuttle Columbia Flight CPU and IOP for sale.

by danjo＠xnet.com

Now HERE is a Classic! > -- forwarded message -- > Subject: Actual Shuttle Columbia Flight CPU and IOP for sale. > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:46:25 GMT > > Over in sci.space.history they are offering an actual Shuttle > Columbia Flight CPU that ACTUALLY FLEW. Price is something like > $1800. I came over here & didn't see the post here so thought > I would tell y'all. > > The thread is "ex-Mission Control surplus electronics for sale". > -- end of forwarded message --

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new DEC additions

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-25 08:27:58 EDT, you write: > Tell us, what boards are in the 3 boxes ... i dont know dec, but if you can explain how to access the boards and ID them, i can tell you what they are. david

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by CLASSICCMP＠timaxp.trailing-edge.com

>> mvII diag cust >DON'T ERASE THIS ONE ! Why not? The customer diagnostics are completely worthless. If one tries to use them to format a RD-series disk on a RQDX3, the best possible outcome is that an already formatted disk will remain formatted. A more likely outcome is that an already formatted disk will get zorched! Tim.

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new DEC additions

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi Dave, ---------- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: new DEC additions > Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 12:11 PM > > drove out to the country the other day and picked up this load of dec stuff. > some of you dec hotshots can tell me if it was worth the trip. lol > about 40 orange binders about vax/vms. programmer's guide, reference, and who > know what else! Keep them. I find always more in this books, that i'm looking for ;-)) > external drive RD54 functional ? > mvII diag cust DON'T ERASE THIS ONE ! > heh, if anyone can explain all this, that would be most welcome. it was hard > work having to unload those off a truck by myself. i might keep the smaller of > the 3 i got, Tell us, what boards are in the 3 boxes ... cheers, emanuel

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um... somewhat on topic...

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

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Monitor repair

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I have the same monitor. Don't have the same problem, though. It may be just the picture tube warming up, which would explain why the chill spray doesn't do anything. Although 10 minutes seems like an awfully long time for tube warm-up. Mine gets to full size, and warmed up in about 15 seconds. It's from 1992 (or93). I have noticed, however, that since I got it, the picture is slowly shrinking. When new, I could adjust both horizontal and vertical, when maxed out, would be past the edges of the screen. Now, when I max out the horiz. control, I can only get it to about 1/2 - 3/4" from each side of the screen. The vertical can still go off the screen. Other than that, there are no problems (no pincushion, distortion etc). The monitor is very low hours. It was used probably about 3-4 hours a week, if that, until about 4 months ago. Now it's used about 3-4 hours a day. The problem started, however, when being used 3-4 hrs. a week. ThAnX, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Monitor repair > Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 10:35 PM > > Here's one that has me going... > > Gateway2000 crystal scan (1572 FS): > > Problem: display from cold start is 75% of normal size, warms up to > normal after about 10 minutes. Color and aspect ratio excellent as is > focus even in shrunken form. Chill spray on components cannot cause > the display to shrink. > > Any clues on this one? I have no prints... > > As tubes go this one is fairly nice. > > Allison >

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new DEC additions

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< i already have a microvax II, but in a tower unit form factor, almost li < pc. (ba123 i think) the 3 i got are shaped different. two of them are bi < probably over 200lbs each easy. the first one has a sticker on it showin < model 63006. its a big unit, with a hood that opens up top and a big tap Could be a MVII in one of many possible boxes. Sounds like you hiot the mother load. < about 40 orange binders about vax/vms. programmer's guide, reference, an < know what else! Orange is V4.x.. old but very useful. < a letterwriter 100 A good wide platten printer that will do six part forms. < external drive RD54 < a tape drive (tk50?) Always handy. < microvms 4.6 full bin Old but usable. < vax fortran 4.5 bin < decnet mvms v4 net bnd/n < tsv05 driver bin < microvms v4.7 bin Better. < vhs lic key bin BIG WIN if not expired, if not DECUS. < microvms 4.6 bin mand update < mvII diag cust < rel:1.2.1 install microvax II (handwritten) < < < heh, if anyone can explain all this, that would be most welcome. it was Sounds like you have the docs needed to answer you questions. The orange wall is chock full of information even if the version is old it's more valuable than the VAX itself! Allison

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New toys

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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Goo is gone!

by manney＠lrbcg.com

Used Goo Gone; one swipe is all it took -- that stuff's magic! manney(a)lrbcg.com >An Epson gas eaten several mailing labels over the years (I think at least >_some_ of the labels must be 10 years old!). > >What's good stuff to remove the gunk without melting the plastic?

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Kids these days

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

>Yes! Something I can help with. To get to the BAL-500 menu, which is >onboard, you just put it in a slot and do PR#X where X is the slot number >it's in. It'll bring up a menu of things you can do with it. > >PS: At least I think I have a BAL-500. Try it and see. Thanks, Anthony. PR#X does it. Now I just need to figure out how to actually program it. :-) Thanks, Tom -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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new DEC additions

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

drove out to the country the other day and picked up this load of dec stuff. some of you dec hotshots can tell me if it was worth the trip. lol i already have a microvax II, but in a tower unit form factor, almost like a pc. (ba123 i think) the 3 i got are shaped different. two of them are big, probably over 200lbs each easy. the first one has a sticker on it showing model 63006. its a big unit, with a hood that opens up top and a big tape drive <?> that slides forward. the machine says TS05 on the front. one model came with two hard drives. the other unit 'named pugsly' is the same, except it has a small tape drive and the backplane has cables going everywhere and the side panels are off. thankfully they have wheels. the 3rd uvax is a much smaller unit but wider than the one i have here in the computer room. it has a dual vertical floppy drive and two hard drives. i also got two vt220 terminals about 40 orange binders about vax/vms. programmer's guide, reference, and who know what else! a letterwriter 100 external drive RD54 a tape drive (tk50?) a rat's nest of cables to hook everything up. some blank dec 5.25 disks about 20 compactapes. half are backups. last bu was nov94. also got these system tapes: microvms 4.6 full bin vax fortran 4.5 bin decnet mvms v4 net bnd/n tsv05 driver bin microvms v4.7 bin vhs lic key bin microvms 4.6 bin mand update mvII diag cust rel:1.2.1 install microvax II (handwritten) heh, if anyone can explain all this, that would be most welcome. it was hard work having to unload those off a truck by myself. i might keep the smaller of the 3 i got, but the two big monstors, i'm unsure of. the people i got these >from also want to give me a CDC machine that's even bigger... david

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EDSAC on your desk.

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Well, sorta.. I have found a wonderful EDSAC simulator that runs on Windows or Mac. It presents you with the 'front panel' of the machine.. a CRT that 'looks' at the various memory delay tanks, other register displays, and some control buttons. One 'punches' programs into files, which are then presented to the sim and away it goes. Even (corny) sound effects. It emulates the machine as it existed in the 1949 - 50 time range. It is a 1.873 Mb file that explodes into the program and demo files, as well as two .pdf docs explaining everything. It can be had at: www.ocs.warwick.ac.uk/~edsac I have been playing with it on and off all day today. Sam: Possibly a neat item at VCF II would be to have a box running this simulator... it certainly gives instant awareness of what it was like back in the Old Days. Certainly on topic, I guess... ;} Cheers John

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Monitor repair

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

>Would someone be kind enough to direct me to a good FAQ or URL for >diagnosing/repairing monitors? There has been some excellent information Oops - try www.repairfaq.org/~filipg. Bill Richman incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf microcomputer simulator!)

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Monitor repair

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

>Would someone be kind enough to direct me to a good FAQ or URL for >diagnosing/repairing monitors? There has been some excellent information Try www.repairfaq.com - it contains the sci.electronics.repair newsgroup FAQ. (I tried it just now, and can't get there, but I think this is the right address.) Bill Richman incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf microcomputer simulator!)

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Lisaquarium

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

hey, i have two macs with hyperdrives, one is complete and working. AFAIK, that was the only way to get a hard drive on a mac512k besides the floppy connected slow hard drive that apple built. that ST225 sure made the computer much heavier! In a message dated 98-09-24 01:40:19 EDT, A Finney put forth: > "Note the 'Hyperdrive' sticker on the back of this Mac. This was one of > the first internal hard drives for Mac with a cable that clipped directly > to the processor. Very cool, very expensive..."

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Followup: Quantum Q540 as a RD52

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< since getting a RL02 hooked up to the one /23 would take a lot of work, That isn't a bad task. Put the controller in the system if you have the right box, plug in the cables, power and your off. < I've been stuck dialed into work. Besides it sounds like a drive format < on a VS2000 can then be used on a RQDX3 without any problem. Yes, that works well. < 1 down 4 to go. At least I've got one good drive out of the deal so it < worth it, even if the rest are bad! Now I've got a RD52 for that /23. : An 11/23 with RD52 is a good system with any OS 'cept maybe unix. I run RT-11 on it and it's very roomy. Allison

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Lisaquarium

by rax＠warbaby.com

Forwarded sans comment... http://www.flnet.com/~jlower/aquaria/aquarium.html -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Once you get the nose on, the rest is just makeup.

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Followup: Quantum Q540 as a RD52

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Well between the info Tim posted yesterday (Thanks again Tim), the 'mfm.disks' document that has been on the PDP-11 site, and the 'mv.txt' document that is part of the MV/VS FAQ, I just finished formatting one of the drives in the VS2000. I decided to go that route at least initially since getting a RL02 hooked up to the one /23 would take a lot of work, and I've been stuck dialed into work. Besides it sounds like a drive formatted on a VS2000 can then be used on a RQDX3 without any problem. 1 down 4 to go. At least I've got one good drive out of the deal so it was worth it, even if the rest are bad! Now I've got a RD52 for that /23. :^) Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Re.: VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Is that the only speech to be made? > >> >>The article only raises more questions. At the VCF we will answer them, >> >>and a new chapter in the history of the development of the microprocessor >> >>will be written. >> >> For those of us unable to make it to this event, will there be a >> transcript of Holt's speech? > >Yes. And a taped version and a video tape will be made. No definite >plans exist for releasing the video tape of the talk, but an audio >cassette will be produced. > >Also, I'll be releasing the URL to the web site that Ray Holt put up to >disseminate information about the F14 Central Air Data Computer on this >list tomorrow. You guys will be getting this before the rest of the >world. > >It has pictures of the chip masks, technical data, a more recent paper >Holt wrote to put this technology in perspective, and some other data. > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ever onward. > > September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 09/21/98] > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re.: VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:24:36 -0700 (PDT), Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> wrote: >>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Richard A. Cini, Jr. wrote: >> On page B6, in an article titled "Yet Another 'Father' Of the >> Microprocessor Wants Recognition", there is discussion of Ray Holt, an >> ex-Navy engineer who claims to have created the microprocessor in 1969, two >> years before Hoff, Faggin, and Mazor created the integrated processor. >Actually, its on page B3. In the New York City edition (versus the National edition), it does appear on page B6. Sorry for the confusion. >>The article only raises more questions. At the VCF we will answer them, >>and a new chapter in the history of the development of the microprocessor >>will be written. For those of us unable to make it to this event, will there be a transcript of Holt's speech? Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer so

by Marty＠itgonline.com

During my last year in high school in Kensington, Maryland in 1969 an IBM 1103 was installed with about twenty terminals for student use. I never used the 1103 although I 'majored' in data processing which included IBM EAM (Electronic Accounting Machine) plug board wiring and operation (sorting, collating, keypunching, verifying, gang punching printing etc. etc. by the way, if anybody has an old plug board available for sale or trade I would be most grateful). I LOVED the old punch card gear. It was fun wiring plug boards. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socke Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 9/22/98 11:10 PM > Yeah man! Where???????!!!!!!! I'll rent a tent and camp out at the place > which has one until either they get tired of it or that Y2K thing obsoletes > it. W. Donzelli would be camping right next to me I think. No, I will be letting the air of your car's tires. > Seriously, that would be, in my opinion, the most excellent find! As I > mentioned, I have never heard of any around these days. They were, I > believe, not the typical mainline computers one would hear of in business > like the S/360's and S/370's. Weren't they more used in R&D and academia > because of their ability to handle number crunching not so much as > databases like a business application would? I know little about 1103s, but they were indeed built for number crunching for people that could not afford a big S/360. The 1103 is related to the 1800, used for process control (leading to the S/7). William Donzelli william(a)ans.net ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Sep22.231015.1767.65248; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:10:15 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA22495; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA19744 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:04 -0700 Received: from il1.nyp.ans.net (il1.nyp.ans.net [147.225.190.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA12224 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:08:02 -0700 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net id XAA20851 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:01 -0400 Received: by il1.nyp.ans.net (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:01 -0400 Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980922225702.4453B-100000(a)titan.purch.ans.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: IBM 1130 Was: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socket (Off topic) In-Reply-To: <199809230020.AAA19961(a)cyber2.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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Motorola UDS modem

by blakeman＠creative-net.net

I have just gotten an original box, foam pads inside that has a manual and modem inside, probably unused. It says it's a Motorola UDS 201 BC, made for Motorola by Universal Data Systems of Huntsville AL. The manual says it's copyright 1986. Has the cable to connect to the regular RJ11 lines (telco) and and RJ45 connector on back to hook in multline phones or regular lines dependant upon the cable used. It also has a 25 pin d-sub on back but it's a female, marked DTE and the manual says its an RS-232C connection. Pretty much like any external modem except for the front switch positions. It's a rotary switch with the following positions: RDLIST RDL LDL AL DATA TLK TTP RTP ST and it has 8 leds that are marked MR/RI TR RS CS CD RD TD TM My guess is that it will do a multitude of things more than a stock dial up modem. Many of you that have been into his stuff when it was new probably know all about it. Anyone willing to make a trade of some standard PC oriented stuff? PS/2 items? make me an offer if you want this as I don't think it's worth much in $$ but a lot to someone that uses this type of equipment or for their collection. A little high brow for me.

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A chapter every computer manual should have

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

>How about what should be line 0, using the gun to prevent the rest of >the instructions being necessary? > You mean: 1) use the gun to shoot the computer (shades of the 3 laws of robotics), or 2) use the gun to shoot the politicians who started the war? Bill Richman incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf microcomputer simulator!)

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A chapter every computer manual should have

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Shouldn't you destroy the manual too? > >> The last chapter of my "Gun Direction Computer M15" manual has a section >> on destroying the computer if it should fall into enemy hands: > >Instructions ("destructions" as Greenback and Stilletto would say) like >this are common in military tech manuals - at least ones that have even >the smallest chance of being near the front. > >William Donzelli >william(a)ans.net > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Osborne 1

by firebird＠exit109.com

I have an Osborne 1 in good operating condition with all original software and some additional software looking for a good home. Anyone there interested? This email address was published in the Asbury Park Press. Jim Winer firebird(a)exit109.com http://www.mimidolls.com http://www.WeaverOfWebs.com

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EDSAC on your desk.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< It's not unheard of for a domestic mains supply in the UK to be 240V @ < 80A or even 100A. If I had a PDP10, you can be sure I'd find a way to ge < such a supply. In the USA (MA) 100-200A service pannels are common with both 120/240 ouputs typically under 15A for 120 loops and veriable for the 240. It's fairly trivial to drop a 30A 240 single phase and in my garage I have a plug for one if needed. KL10 8KW is likely not real but a max. < Ouch. That's about 25% efficient. Sorry, but that does need to be < redesigned, particularly if it's a switcher.! for that kind of efficientcy it would have to be a very poor linear as most of them are in the 45-65% range. I'm skeptical that the input load is really 8KW and in reality far less. I'm inclined to believe something more in the range of 4kw is the truth. For example I'm running 4 VS3100s and the name plate says 5.8A at 120v on the back of the /m76 yet the /M10E it's only 1.2A... the reson is the /m76 can daisy chan the AC power out to another box (switched) but the internal power supply is only a 150w switcher needing 1.2A. The underline is that 8kw may well be the AC distribution bus load not the local processor power load. < > However, RP06 drives are another matter entirely. They need three-pha < > power for their motors. I'm reluctant to try the capacitor trick. That works well if the values are right. Keep in mind that the motors are running under a mostly static load so despite their size and power they are running at a fraction of their full load power. < There are electronic 3-phase converters sold in the UK (and I think < Elektor published as design for one). They are typically used for small < (2-3hp) motors on machine tools. I would guess that an RP06 would run of < one of those without any problems. Rotary converter, low efficentcy but they work and can be built. Allison

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For Sale/Trade at the VCF - plus want list

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

I have a nice one, I just need the special DOS for it... -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 12:50 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Re: For Sale/Trade at the VCF - plus want list Kai, I have a bunch of extra HP 150s. How many do you want? Joe At 03:26 PM 9/22/98 -0700, you wrote: >Here's a PARTIAL list of the stuff I'll have in my booth at the Vintage >Computer Festival this weekend, followed by my want list. > >FOR SALE/TRADE AT VCF: > >- Apple II (original) systems (2), good cosmetics, neither working, one >needs PS, the other TLC >- Apple II/Bell & Howell "Black Apple" Disk II floppy drives, drives only >(3) >- Apple ///, tested working, plus optional ProFile hard disk and Apple /// >ProFile controller card >- Apple Lisa (Mac XL), nice shape, powers on, needs Sun SCSI card, keyboard >has 3 wrong keys >- Apple Macintosh 128, beautiful! Correct original mouse, keyboard and >Apple-logo power cord >- Atari 65XE, memory error on boot >- Atari 130XE, tested working, plus floppy drive, cable, power supplies >- Atari 800, the original Atari 8-bit, nice shape, tested working, with >power supply and Atari BASIC book >- Atari ST, untested >- Coleco ADAM, tested working, with keyboard & printer >- Colecovision classic game system, mint condition, with 2 controllers, >power supply, 1 game >- Commodore 128D, rare version with separate keyboard/built-in diskette >drive, tested working >- Commodore Amiga 500, technician's special >- Commodore Amiga 1000, the first Amiga, tested working, with 1MB Insider >and 256K cartridge >- Epson PX-8 Geneva, CP/M notebook PC, tested working, with Multi-Unit 64 >and Portable WordStar ROM >- Epson PX-8 Geneva, CP/M notebook PC, tested working except some keys, >needs cleaning? >- IBM PC Convertible 5140, looks great, tested working, with battery >- IBM Portable PC 5150, the original IBM PC in a portable case, flawless >condition >- Sharp PC1500 Pocket Computer with carrying case, printer, manuals, tested >working >- Sharp PC1500A Pocket Computer with carrying case, printer, manuals, tested >working >- SoftStrip Reader!!! Read those barcoded programs along the edge of >magazine pages! In original box >- Sony 15" universal color monitor, accepts Composite, S-Video, Analog RGB, >Digital RGB >- Timex-Sinclair ZX1000, tested working >- TRS-80 Model 100, 32K, tested working, missing battery cover, with Model >100 book >- TRS-80 Color Computer 1, tested working >- Vectrex vector-graphic stand-alone home video game system, M6800 CPU > >WANT LIST: > >- Most anything S-100 bus related, especially but not limited to MITS, IMSAI > >- Documentation or Sales Literature for classic systems > >- Altair 6800 >- Commodore PET Floppy System >- Corvus Concept >- Dynalogic Hyperion >- Exidy Sorcerer >- Heath H8, H11, drives >- IBM AT >- Ohio Scientific systems >- Osborne Vixen >- Processor Technology HELIOS >- RCA 1802 machines (e.g. COSMAC ELF, VIP) >- Rockwell AIM-65 >- Sinclair ZX80 >- Smoke Signal Broadcasting systems, drives >- SWTPC systems, drives > >- Optical serial paper tape reader >- Apple Lisa Office System Diskettes, Unserialized >- HP150 DOS >- Apricot F-Series DOS >- Apple Macintosh Portable Battery > >And of course, can't fail to mention the Apple I, Apple Lisa I, Mark 8, >Scelbi 8H, Sphere, & Xerox Star. > >See you at VCF!! > >Kai > >

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VCF mentioned in today's Wall Street Journal

by rcini＠email.msn.com

FYI: On page B6, in an article titled "Yet Another 'Father' Of the Microprocessor Wants Recognition", there is discussion of Ray Holt, an ex-Navy engineer who claims to have created the microprocessor in 1969, two years before Hoff, Faggin, and Mazor created the integrated processor. In the last paragraph, "This week, Mr. Holt will officially launch a campaign to make his name. On Saturday, he will be a featured speaker at a gathering of Silicon Valley computer buffs, the Vintage Computer Festival in Santa Clara, Calif., where he will be joined by members of his original team and publicly discuss his invention for the first time." Congrats Sam! Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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