- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Well, I suppose a Statistically Significant Number of folk are attending the VCF II... not, however. (snif..) I consoled myself by putting in my usual apperance at the TRW Ham Swapmeet here in cloudy SoCal.. whereat I picked up two list-related items, viz: 1) A complete set of Tech and Ref manual for the 286-based Compaqs, complete w/disks and pocket refs, etc... for $2. 2) A Jonos Escort portable, running CP/M 3.0. This cute little box came from NASA, and has a Syquest drive alognside the 1/2 height HD.. the Syquest is unfortunately dead, and/or the cartridge is blank. The HD, however is *full* of Stuff, including WordStar, which is how I found out what who made this box, as it has no outside markings other than the model and serial numbers, telling me it's a Model C 2500. It has an RS232 port, and an IEEE 488, a telephone jack, an external video RCA jack, and a many-pin Berg connector marked 'External 8" Subsystem' I haven't had much more time to examine it closely, though it does boot and run with no problems, other than complaining about the B: drive not working. In advance of my doing the usual WebSearch on it.. any comments or info re: this box would be fun to hear. Also I have a lead on a "few" Rockwell AIM 65s; I missed the one by 30 seconds.. it went for $5 and the buyer declined my offer of $20.. damn I *hate* when that happens... the seller and I exchanged phone/e-mail tho, and I will (hopefully) hear about the remaining units next week. [He told me the one I wanted had no ROMs in it... so I'm not completely depressed.] I bought a bunch of other stuff, too, but nothing on-topic. Cheers John

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Apple Questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 29, 19:10, Tony Duell wrote: > Subject: Re: Apple Questions > > Disk][s don't have any setup (apart from internal speed/alignment > > And the read amplifier offset/threshold, R28 on the analogue board. > Yes, I sort of included that in "alignment" -- in the electronic sense. Actually, not all Disk][s seem to have a pot there; and it was some time before I worked out how to set it properly (the Apple tech manuals I had in those days didn't mention it) and I had to wait until I got a Sony manual to figure it out. I remember asking once Motorola for the MC3470 datasheet, and the UK office told me it didn't exist! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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OT: Help in San Jose

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 05:23 PM 9/29/98 -0400, William Donzelli wrote: >Minor off-topic sin occurs here... >I am currently in San Jose, and I need some networking stuff for work: >10baseT transceivers, RJ45 crimping tool set, GMT (telco flag) fuses, >etc.. Where can I get these in a pinch? Geez, in the valley of plenty... you could probably go to the local bagel shop and pick up stuff like that. Try finding parts in the middle of relative nowhere, like Wisconsin. :-) Hmm, come to think of it, I might have to drive an hour to get them, but I'd cover 80 miles, and in the same time you'd be able to get off at the next exit to find the local Fry's... - John

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Apple Questions

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

re: apple drives any apple floppy drive can be used as drive 1 or 2; there is no difference. undisks are daisy chainable and disk ][s plug into a controller card which has two 20pin connections labled drive 1 and 2. the slot assignment was pretty much understood as slot 6 for disk drives. btw. i have several SSCs... david In a message dated 98-09-28 20:03:28 EDT, you write: > Depending on the type of fdd there were definite sequential settings, so > using > an A drive as a B drive and vice-versa was not possible without setting them > > up. Sam undoubtably is busy but he could give you better info on this. > Any extra Super Serial cards ?

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ESDI Cabling

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

As far as I can tell the cables required for a single ESDI drive are the same as for a MFM drive. Is this correct? I discovered I'd not had the drive I've been trying to use terminated late last night, but that didn't make any difference in my problems. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Apple Questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 28, 19:36, Lawrence Walker wrote: > On 28 Sep 98 at 12:35, Marvin wrote: > > This morning, a friend of mine brought over a pickup truck load of Apple > > computers, monitors, printers, and dead disk drives. > > Finally, I haven't checked the drives but are there common problems I > > should look for when I start checking out the drives? > Depending on the type of fdd there were definite sequential settings, > so using an A drive as a B drive and vice-versa was not possible without > setting them up. Disk][s don't have any setup (apart from internal speed/alignment servicing). Whether a drive is Drive 1 or Drive 2 depends solely on which of the two connectors it's plugged in to, on the controller. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Can anyone identify this vax for sale on Ebay?

by pechter＠shell.monmouth.com

Forwarded message: > From: pechter(a)shell.monmouth.com > Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#32203160: DEC MicroVax 3300 Mini Main Frame.L@@K.(pics) > X-Mailer: <smsmtp> > > I saw this item for sale at eBay. > > Any idea what this is -- is it a MicroVax, an Alpha? > > I'd love to bid on a MicroVax... but I'm unsure > since the guy doesn't even have the DEC number on > the box. (Probably picked it up for free...) > > Title of item: DEC MicroVax 3300 Mini Main Frame.L@@K.(pics) > Seller: wizardworkz(a)netscape.net > Starts: 09/24/98 21:40:34 PDT > Ends: 10/01/98 21:40:34 PDT > Price: Currently $157.50 > To bid the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=32203160 > > > Item Description: > > DEC MICROVAX 3300 > - Mini Main Frame - Alpha Server - He says Alpha? > > > They say that a picture is worth a thousand words... > Well, there you are, several pics that I think will explain a little bit anyhow.... I wish I could sit here and tell you all about this monster server > but I can't because I'm no technical genius with servers (As a matter of fact > this thing tends to just SERIOUSLY intimidate me). It came into my possession during the same > commercial real estate purchase that the ALR server in my other auction came in.... BUT,THIS ONE RUNS NOW, AND IS COMPLETELY FUNTIONAL!!!!! > SOME THINGS ABOUT IT THAT I CAN TELL YOU .... > There is information available on this thing in several locations on the web. > It was IN USE when the business moved. > It is VERY heavy. > It is a VERY popular machine amongst hackers due to it's abilities and the fact that it is virtually impossible to hack into "IT"....or so I have read. > It is an extremely stable system which will run UNIX. > If I knew how to set this badboy up I wouldn't even think to sell it- :) > > BUYER PAYS SHIPPING...UPS GROUND. (should be around $60.00) It's VERY > heavy. > NO PERSONAL CHECKS..Money Order or Cashiers Check Only. > Unfortunately because I am not able to set this thing up due to my lack > of knowledge I can't very well guarantee it. Therefore it is being sold AS IS. > Know what you are bidding on and bid appropriately. I have set a reserve on this item > BUT it is low for what the item is. (I'm not crazy,I know this thing sold for quite a > chunk new.) > > > FOR ANY OF YOUR SOFTWARE NEEDS...VISIT OUR NEW SOFTWARE SITE...JUST CLICK THE LINK BELOW. > > > > > > > Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Bill and/or Carolyn Pechter | pechter(a)shell.monmouth.com | | Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in | | a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Fw: Who's on Start?

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

>From: "F.J. Ted Douglas" <tdouglas(a)MNSi.Net> >To: "Charles Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net> >Subject: Fw: Who's on Start? >Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:31:08 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Meg Perry <callusedwarhorse(a)hotmail.com> >To: tamahome(a)tvo.org <tamahome(a)tvo.org>; not(a)idirect.com <not(a)idirect.com>; >maerionne(a)hotmail.com <maerionne(a)hotmail.com> >Cc: tdouglas(a)MNSi.Net <tdouglas(a)MNSi.Net> >Date: September 28, 1998 8:30 AM >Subject: Who's on Start? > > >> >> >> >>> Costello: Hey, Abbott! >>> Abbott: Yes, Lou? >>> >>> Costello: I just got my first computer. >>> Abbott: That's great, Lou. What did you get? >>> >>> Costello: A Pentium II-266, with 40 Megs of RAM, a 2.1 Gig hard drive, >>> and a 24X CD-ROM. >>> Abbott: That's terrific, Lou. >>> >>> Costello: But I don't know what any of it means! >>> Abbott: You will in time. >>> >>> Costello: That's exactly why I'm here to see you. >>> Abbott: Oh? >>> >>> Costello: I heard that you're a real computer expert. >>> Abbott: Well, I don't know . . . >>> >>> Costello: Yes-sir-ee. You know your stuff. And you're going to train >>me. >>> Abbott: Really? >>> >>> Costello: Uh huh. And I am here for my first lesson. >>> Abbott: O.K. Lou. What do want to know? >>> >>> Costello: I am having no problem turning it on, but I heard that you >>should >>> be very careful how you turn it off. >>> Abbott: That's true. >>> >>> Costello: So, here I am working on my new computer and I want to turn >>> it off. What do I do? >>> Abbott: Well, first you press the Start button, and then . . . >>> >>> Costello: No, I told you I want to turn it off. >>> Abbott: I know, you press the Start button . . . >>> >>> Costello: Wait a second. I want to turn it Off. I know how to start >>it. >>> So tell me what to do. >>> Abbott: I did. >>> >>> Costello: When? >>> Abbott: When I told you to press the Start button. >>> >>> Costello: Why should I press the Start button? >>> Abbott: To shut off the computer. >>> >>> Costello: I press Start to stop? >>> Abbott: Well, Start doesn't actually stop the computer. >>> >>> Costello: I knew it! So what do I press? >>> Abbott: Start. >>> >>> Costello: Start what? >>> Abbott: Start button. >>> >>> Costello: Start button to do what? >>> Abbott: Shut down. >>> >>> Costello: You don't have to get rude! >>> Abbott: No, no, no! That's not what I meant. >>> >>> Costello: Then say what you mean. >>> Abbott: To shut down the computer, press . . . >>> >>> Costello: Don't say, "Start!" >>> Abbott: Then what do you want me to say? >>> >>> Costello: Look, if I want to turn off the computer, I am willing to >>press >>> the Stop button, the End button and Cease and Desist >>button, >>> but no one in their right mind presses the Start to Stop. >>> Abbott: But that's what you do. >>> >>> Costello: And you probably Go at Stop signs, and Stop at green lights. >>> Abbott: Don't be ridiculous. >>> >>> Costello: I'm being ridiculous? Well, I think it's about time we >>started >>> this conversation. >>> Abbott: What are you talking about? >>> >>> Costello: I am starting this conversation right now. Good-bye. >> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >

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Texas Instruments TI-99/4A

by oajones＠bright.net

Recently I added a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A to my collection. Since then I also bought one in a off white or beige case (I'm not sure what you would call the color). Was the non-metal case version of the TI-99/4A a later model? I also need to know if anyone has a schematic for both of these models? --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Military Computers: COMTRAN 10, Nida 250 Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones

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More RSX-11M and ESDI

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Question: How required are front panel connections for drives? The manual for my WQESD controller states "if required a front panel can be connected". Background: I'm still working on the problems I described in my "ESDI, MSCP, RSX11M, TK50's, etc." message yesterday. I got adventurous with the RQDX3, and tried the CSR settings listed for the RQDX2 controller and it worked. I replaced the Quad-Height WQESD ESDI Controller with the RQDX3 and a Continuity card, booted from tape, "BAD'd" the disk, and then "BRU'd" part of a tape to the disk. Unfortunatly it was to small a disk to hold the entire tape, but it tells me what I'm doing is right. I also discovered that the Unrecoverable error -65 that "BAD" has been giving me is apparently telling me that the device is either offline or unavailable. I got the same error when I initially tried the procedure with the RQDX3 and a RD52, but then discovered that I didn't have the 34-pin cable plugged in all the way. I'm sure the ESDI drive and controller are a good combination, and work, as I was able to use the onboard programs to format and test the drive. It looks to me like my problem is that as far as the software or hardware is concerned that the drive isn't online. On that note, I'll probably give the Emulex QD21 controller I've got a try tomorrow night since I've got a front panel thing for it. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Apple Questions

by kroma＠worldnet.att.net

>First, I noticed on the Apple ][e computers there were two slightly >different keyboards. On a few, the icon on the Apple key was larger that >that on the rest of the computers. Is this one way to identify early Apple >][e computers, or is there any significance to it? > Were the keys a different color. //e's made in 1983 and early 1984 looked different then later models. There is no significant differences between the two. There is also the Enhanced //e, which came later. It had a slightly different character set and used the 65C02 cpu instead of the 6502, among other things. -- Kirk

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Apple Questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 28, 14:58, D. Peschel wrote: > Marvin wrote: > > Finally, I haven't checked the drives but are there common problems I > > should look for when I start checking out the drives? > > Make sure the cables are aligned, otherwise you will fry a diode (it > could beanother component -- I think it's a rectifier). This applies > to the Disk ][ -- I don't know about other drives. More likely you'll let the magic white smoke out of the 74LS125. It used to happen regularly to drives that staff borrowed over a weekend. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Apple Questions

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> >> First, I noticed on the Apple ][e computers there were two slightly >> different keyboards. On a few, the icon on the Apple key was larger that >> that on the rest of the computers. Is this one way to identify early Apple What about the little 'enhanced' LED? > >According to the technical manual, the easiest way to tell the original >//e from the enhanced //e is to power it up with a monitor connected > >An original //e displays 'Apple ][' while an enchanced one display >'Apple //e'. There is also an extended keybaord versions with a built-in >numeric keypad, but spotting that one is trivial. > >There is no mention in this manual of a difference in the 'Apple' key. > >> Finally, I haven't checked the drives but are there common problems I should >> look for when I start checking out the drives? > > >Mechanical problems. I've never had an electronic failure on a Disk ][ >and I don't see why the //e drives would be any different. > >Mostly : Head alighment (Apple's trick of missing out the track0 sensor >saved a few parts but is hard on the positioner), drive belt (on >belt-driven drives, like the Disk ][, dirty heads. > >-tony > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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BBS Gateway

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

>Is there an existing BBS system that provides a BBS<==>Internet mail >gateway? So that a BBS user could, say, subscribe to a mailing list like >this one? Caesarville Online, my BBS, supports this (at least it will, as soon as I get internet email in a couple of weeks). I'm running a NovaServer BBS on a Mac IIsi 17/700. >Does such a system exist already? Is the source available? For what >platforms? NovaServer, by Resnova, has been discontinued unfortunately (read all about it at <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/novaserver.html>). It's currently unclear as to who owns it, but the source code is most definately not available - yet. NovaServer runs only on Macintosh. Custom client software is available for Mac and Windows. Anybody can log on using Ripterm or terminal emulation. HTML isn't supported in terminal emulation, but email and newsgroups are. Tom Owad -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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VCF Review

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Hi People. I don't have a whole lot of time right now to re-cap VCF 2.0 right now (there's still post-event work to be done) but last week I promised to post the URL to the site that contains all the data on the Ray Holt microprocessor chipset and didn't. Sorry about that, but I was running around like mad trying to get things done and forgot. Anyway, go to http://www.microcomputerhistory.com and find a ton of information about this. You can download Ray's original article written about the set in around 1971 (but which the gubment refused to clear for publication) that describes the architecture and programming. It's in Word 8.0 format because it includes graphics. I apologize for this but we're working on a straight ASCII version so please be patient. You'll also be able to view the chip masks on line, and there are links to a bunch of resources. Ray was interviewed by several press organizations (ZDTV, Public Radio International to name a few) so if you keep your eyes open you might see these interviews. ZDTV will be showing clips from VCF 2.0 in the next few weeks as will CNET. I'll try to find out the actual schedule when they will run. Also, "Beyond Computers" on PRI will be airing a segment in the next few weeks but it will be available as streaming audio off the web. If the number of interviews Jim Willing was given is any indication, he'll soon become the spokesman for the nerd generation. You'll probably see him on both CNET and ZDTV as well as in print and on radio. Let's hope all this fame doesn't go to this head :) Be back later with some additional post-event notes. It was a blast! Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 09/21/98]

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Tandon Laptop

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

I got a couple of Tandon laptops, named 'NB/386sx'. Anyone have any experience with these? Does anyone know if they need a working CMOS battery to boot off the AC adaptor? The AC adaptor has a weird PS/2-like connector, and the laptop doesn't really turn on-the light just blinks... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Mystery board

by pb0aia＠iaehv.nl

Here's a nice puzzle for you. A friend just gave me an old computer board that I have never seen before. It seems to be a SCT-100 and it is from 1978. It is connected to a parallel keyboard and mounted in a home made cabinet. It has a Mostek processor. There are 7 2102's on it. It looks like it is a S-100 board. It even has a voltage regulator on a heat sink. I don't know wether this is a computer or a terminal. I don't see any obvious connections for a storage device, but that may not have been there in this design. I put up a few pictures at http://vaxarchive.ml.org/compmus/kees/watisdit.html Does anybody know what it is? Kees -- Kees Stravers - Geldrop, The Netherlands - pb0aia at amsat dot org Sysadmin and DEC PDP/VAX preservationist - http://vaxarchive.ml.org Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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MicroChess for the KIM-1

by ckaiser＠oa.ptloma.edu

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VCF Update (was Re: Swapmeet finds)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:31:33 -0500 (CDT) Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> writes: >an HP 91 and the only calculator I've really ever desired, the Sharp >EL-8. Oooooh, you lucky, lucky dog! I had an EL-8, which was destroyed in the earthquake in L.A. a few years ago. Is the bottom case half black or grey-blue color? Mine was black. Jeff > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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by roblwill＠usaor.net

I want to ask a question. I bought the same CoCo (I) at a hamfest for $5, and it worked great, and came with joysticks, and BASIC books. Is this computer actually worth $40? If so then I REALLY got a good deal. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: oajones <oajones(a)bright.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: FS: TRS-80 Color Computer 4K (C) 1980 > Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 5:21 AM > > I have for sale a TRS-80 Color Computer with 4k of memory (Catalog > #26-3001). This is the first version of the Color Computer. It is in > original condition and works great. I already have one in my collection > so I will let this one go. The asking price is $40 plus shipping and > handling. If anyone is interested please send me email. > > --Alan > -- > Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M > Military Computers: COMTRAN 10, Nida 250 > Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI > BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ > http://www.bright.net/~oajones

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BBS Gateway

by aaron＠wfi-inc.com

Uh-oh, 4:00am inspiration. I just got out of bed to ask about this: Is there an existing BBS system that provides a BBS<==>Internet mail gateway? So that a BBS user could, say, subscribe to a mailing list like this one? The reason I ask is that I tried to get a shell account with a local ISP a few months ago so I could use internet services on my Atari 1200XL. None of the local providers offered that service at all, and seemed shocked that someone was even asking for one. But a shell prompt doesn't exactly have the romance of a classic BBS and I am now set on writing one that can do internet mail and browse text html docs. Even more ambitious would be the ability to http/ftp binaries using xmodem/etc. But first, your input would be appreciated: Does such a system exist already? Is the source available? For what platforms? Is there anyone who would be interested in using such a product/service? I guess what I'm asking is if there are others who would like to log on to a "classic" BBS using a "classic" computer but still have access to the wealth of information and software on the internet... Any thoughts on platform/environment? Language? My first impulse is Linux, written in C. But I also do Windows, and some other languages too. Anyone want to collaborate on something like this? My time is rarely my own, so this would take me a long, long time to do myself. But it seems like it'd be an interesting project, so I don't mind at all. Thanks for listening to a groggy man's ranting. I'm going back to bed now...

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Email address changes

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< For you guys that are worried because you use Earthlink or Hotamil all < can say is to raise hell with them for permitting SPAMMING or else chang < your ISP. Earthlink is actually one that has fought against fradulent spamming. Most of the earthlink addresses I've gotten spam from didn't originate from them but were fraudulent addresses. For filter purposes I used earthlink is they were most common. Hotmail has been less a problem so I have a few specific filters and can generally get mail from there YET. < I'm in Orlando Florida. There's no significant damage here. LOTs of < rain though. Glad to hear your ok but that hurricane is still dangerous. Allison

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Email address changes

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

> I hope you don't send me any mail or post any messages from your >earthlink address. I've gotten tons of SPAM from earthlink and they're a >permanent part of my SPAM filters now. I find this all rather disturbing. What am I supposed to do if I want to get in contact with one of you guys who is blocking email from earthlink? Surely not use Hotmail or my AOL account! Tom Owad -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

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by oajones＠bright.net

I have for sale a TRS-80 Color Computer with 4k of memory (Catalog #26-3001). This is the first version of the Color Computer. It is in original condition and works great. I already have one in my collection so I will let this one go. The asking price is $40 plus shipping and handling. If anyone is interested please send me email. --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Military Computers: COMTRAN 10, Nida 250 Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones

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html in e-mail / NeXT stuff

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

I don't suppose exchange has any sort of built-in SMTP autoresponder (or anyone know of an autoresponder address anywhere?) - be nice to be able to send emails out to an SMTP-only site and get a reply back just so's I can check that I *don't* have any stupid formatting in my outgoing mail... it bugs the hell out of me that I'm forced to use exchange here at work; I'd rather not use all the 'extensions' that exchange gives you - all of them being unnecessary - but the software's very good at not making it clear what a sent message is going to look like at the other end of the wire... (give me standard SMTP and uuencode any day! :) (apologies in advance if this comes out with strange indentation, formatting and useless attachments... at least I don't think I'll have squeezed any HTML in there... :*) oh well, rant mode off... sorry for the off-topic!! Jules >

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VCF Update (was Re: Swapmeet finds)

by mbg＠world.std.com

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ESDI, MSCP, RSX11M, TK50's, etc.

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

OK, I've been getting adventurous today. I've been digging through a bunch of my parts and tapes. I discovered that I've got two ESDI controllers, instead of the one that I knew about, one is a Emulex QD21 which I found the manual online for, the other a "Webster WQESD" which I have the manual for. Figured out how to get both to work, and verified that at least one of the three 150Mb ESDI drives I've got work. I decided to go with the WQESD controller since the directions are easier to follow (the ASCII files are a bit messy on the QD21). Plus the WQESD controller looks to be the better of the two controllers. My configuration is as follows for reference BA123 Cabinet M8192-YB {11/73} M8067-LF {RAM} M8043 {DLV11J, used for console} Dilog DQ606 {floppy controller, boot ROMs} CSR=17772150 Webster WQESD {Quad-Height, boot ROMs turned off} CSR=17760334 M7504 M7546 {TK50 controller} NOTE: The DQ606 and WQESD both had the same CSR initially The drive is a CDC, and I identified all three drives as 150Mb drives when I got them, but for the life of me I can't find any kind of ID on it at the moment. It was formated on the WQESD controller. Next I decided to see about getting RSX11M onto the drive. So I started looking through my media, including for some reason my TK50's. Based on the labeling they are backups of DU disks, so the system that I got with V4.3 must have had DU disks at one point, despite the fact it was running on a single RL02 when I got it. I booted off one of my bootable TK50's, giving the RSX equivalent of Standalone Backup the proper CSR for the WQESD controller, and pulled out the manuals to try to figure out what I'm doing. Unfortunatly when I try to "BAD" the disk I get the following: BAD>du0:/list BAD -- DU0: Uncoverable error -65. BAD> And a "BRU" in the following: BRU>/ini From: mu0: To: du0: BRU - Starting Tape 1 MUA0: BRU -- *FATAL* -- Home block write error I/O error code -65 BRU> According to the Utilities manual error -65 needs to be looked up in the "IAS/RSX-11 I/O Operations Reference Manual", which I'm not sure if or where I've got. The manual for the WQESD mentions that non-DEC drives must be compatible with those listed below: *RX50 *RD51 *RD52 *RC25 *RA60 *RA80 *RA81 So does this mean that it needs to look like one of these drives for the OS to like it? If so, I guess that explains the above error. In order to test this theory, I was threatening to replace the ESDI controller and drive with a RQDX3 and RD52, however, I don't seem to have a documentation for the RQDX3, just the 1 & 2. Are the 11 jumpers at the bottom of the board for setting the CSR, and are they the same as on a RQDX2? They appear to be. I realize that using the DQ606 and DLV11J in the place of a proper board, such as a MXV11, to boot off of is far from ideal, unfortunalty it's currently the best solution I've got. I'd thought of trying to use the PDP-11/23+ CPU I've got, but discovered it doesn't support TMSCP tape drives as a boot device, where the DQ606 does. Somehow I don't really feel like trying to type in the bootstrap for a TK50 if I can help it (yes, I'm being lazy). Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on this mess? Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Need info on a DECUS tape #VS0108TB

by cfandt＠servtech.com

Hey gang! I have a TK50 tape from DECUS labeled "The DECUS VMS Startup Set" with the part number VS0108TB. It came with the uVAXII I recently got. Title sounds quite intriguing as I will later be bringing up that machine and am a novice at DEC goodies so far. I cannot find, by searching, anything about it on the DECUS software site. Nor can I find anything by searching newsgroups or the web under either the description or the part number. Anybody have any info on this from either their own tape library or old archived DECUS S/W catalog listings? Thanks for the help. --Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/

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Texas Instruments TI-99/4A

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Recently I added a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A to my collection. Since < >then I also bought one in a off white or beige case (I'm not sure what < >you would call the color). Was the non-metal case version of the < >TI-99/4A a later model? I also need to know if anyone has a schematic < >for both of these models? The sequance was the TI99/4 (chicklet keys), TI99/4a enhanced display and real keyboard and the beige TI99/4a revised roms. < The silver and black model is the original one. The beige, all plastic < case is the later model. IIRC the later model has circuitry which preve < it from running third party cartridges. It was not a hardware change that I know of and I have several of the black and later beige units. It is a firmware difference. Allison

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Texas Instruments TI-99/4A

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Recently I added a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A to my collection. Since < then I also bought one in a off white or beige case (I'm not sure what < you would call the color). Was the non-metal case version of the < TI-99/4A a later model? I also need to know if anyone has a schematic < for both of these models? The beige was a later model and is the same circuit as far as I know though the roms are a bit different. The beige will not play some non TI games that the black/metal trim one would. There is an active TI99 list. I not have the Listserv address beyond the ti99(a)theriver.com (there is a different address to subscribe). Allison

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Anybody got a spare NCR5380-based SCSI controller?

by jruschme＠exit109.com

Hi! (I think this is old enough hardware to be on topic.) In my off hours, I'm trying to put together a driver for NCR53C80-based SCSI controllers for it i386 port of NetBSD. (For those who know NetBSD, I'm doing some patches to the MI 5380 driver and writing an i386 MD front end.) I have it working with the very dumb Chinon controller (non-bootable, no IRQ- polled only), but was trying to set up a test box with a card capable of being interrupt driven and (ultimately) bootable. Unfortunately, my ancient SUMO SCSI-AT seems to have given up the ghost as it will no longer detect any connected drives and seems to actively screw up the bootting of floppies from another card. So, I was wondering if one of you might be able to loan (or cheaply sell) me a spare NCR53C80-based SCSI card. I guess I would ideally be looking for another SUMO or similar card. My second choice would be a Trantor T130 with boot ROM. I am, however, open to other suggestions. Thanks... <<<john>>>

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Monitor repair

by cdrmool＠interlog.com

Would someone be kind enough to direct me to a good FAQ or URL for diagnosing/repairing monitors? There has been some excellent information passed around on this list since I've subscribed but I need something a bit more basic. For example, descriptions of different types of problems (flickering, only 2 colours) and the possible causes and interventions. I realize that its not quite as simple as I'd like it to be but I have to start somewhere. I keep finding SVGA monitors that need some work and would like to get them up and running. TIA Colan

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Compaq correction

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I'm not sure if they're the same, or not, but on Compaq's website, the Portable III, and the Portable 386 were listed as two different computers. I need the parts for the Portable 386. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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html in e-mail / NeXT stuff

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 26, 12:06, John R. Keys, Jr. wrote: > Subject: RE: html in e-mail / NeXT stuff > > [ Attachment (multipart/alternative): 4834 bytes ] And another flavour of *!&* :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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html in e-mail / NeXT stuff

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 26, 20:05, Thomas Pfaff wrote: > Subject: Re: html in e-mail / NeXT stuff > > [ Attachment (text/enriched): 1440 bytes > Character set: us-ascii > Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] > Yep I agree. HTML is annoying even on platforms that support it as an > internal functionality. > It _really_ doesn't make much sense in a group that discusses 10 year old > and older computer junk. But neither does RTF :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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html in e-mail / NeXT stuff

by thomas100＠home.com

A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1413 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/attachments/19980926/222621a8/at…

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Govt (DOD) computer (&other stuff) sales

by wpe101＠banet.net

The U.S. Govt lists stuff for sale at the following site: www.drms.dla.mil Will

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Compaq correction

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

The portable III was a 286, otherwise identical though. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Willgruber <roblwill(a)usaor.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Sunday, 27 September 1998 10:44 Subject: Compaq correction >I'm not sure if they're the same, or not, but on Compaq's website, the >Portable III, and the Portable 386 were listed as two different computers. >I need the parts for the Portable 386. >-- > -Jason >(roblwill(a)usaor.net) > ICQ#-1730318

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WTB: Compaq Portable III stuff

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Hi! I have a Compaq Portable III that Id like to get going a bit better than it is now. Here's what I need for it: RAM - It uses special RAM that is about as long as a 72-pin chip, bit is only about 1/2" high, and doesn't have the notch in the middle. I currently have 2 MB, but would like to get it up to the max (16 MB?) Modem (I think that's what the slot's for) - There's a little knock-out under the disk drives, and a big open space inside the case, and a connector. That's really all I can say about that. Manual - Any have a manual that they'd want to get rid of (or photocopy)? I've checked the date on this thing (stamped on the inside of the back cover), and It's dated 1988, so it just makes it for the list. ThAnX again, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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Memory needed (slightly OT)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I have the URL, and the info to modify the SIMMS. I just need to get the SIMMS. True parity seems to be awfully hard to find anymore. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > HI everybody! > > But, you can use standard Fast Page Mode (FPM) parity 72pin simms > in those PS/2 series and that L40SX. After modding the presence > lines to proper settings as shown in that webpage: > > I have number of machines that requires this mods to ram > sticks so they will work in them and really save a brundle. I pay > about $25 CDN a stick for generic 4mb 70ns types with this specs. > And that are from my local computer reseller. > > http://members.aol.com/mcapage0/mcaindex.htm > > Jason D. > >

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Misc. for sale

by william＠ans.net

I am starting to prune out a lot of stuff from my pile. Best offer, reasonable or silly, for the following: (1) TRS-80 CoCo, 4K. I think the video is bad, as it spews out junk video to my TV. The CPU seems to be doing something, as I can make out a some characters on the screen. The reset button also does something. I assume >from the "Channel 3-4" switch, the thing has a modulator inside, and could be the problem. I have better things to fix. (1) Apple Parallel Printer card. Probably out of a ][ or some such thing. Untested. (1) Norden PDP-11/M control panel. This is a little handheld thingie that essentially allows a soldier/sailor/etc. to do very basic functions (stop, reset, etc.) and watch for bus and parity errors (LEDs). For the person that _thought_ they had every PDP-11 part ever made. (1) HardCard EZ, and two Conner drives. The HardCard has a big "127" printed on the side (capacity?). No idea if it is good - same with the two "normal" disks (types 2 and 17, for you IDE fans out there). (1) set RSX-11/M Programmers Manuals, Volumes 4A and 4B. These look reasonably complete. No, I do not have the other volumes. Most of this stuff is headed toward the jaws of my pliers, so feel free to offer as little as you want. Just remember you pay shipping from Carmel, NY (or thereabouts). William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

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html in e-mail

by cdrmool＠interlog.com

As a Pine user, I don't much like html ladden messages. I do however have a small dos program called "htmlstrip" that cleans up all the junk. I find it handy for mail and downloaded files off of web sites that are html. If anyone wants it I'll pass it on. Otherwise its fairly easy to find via a search engine. Colan

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Navy fights, & Linux posts sorry 'bout HTML

by wpe101＠banet.net

My deepest apologies.. I only meant to post the url's, NOT all the (expliative deleted) HTML stuff... Will

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Memory needed (slightly OT)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-26 12:08:13 EDT, you write: > Okay, this isn't quite classic, yet, but This is one of the few places that > I know of where someone could help me. > > I have a PS/2 L40sx (laptop) that I need RAM for. I need either the > special RAM made for this computer, or standard 4 meg IBM True Parity > SIMMS. hey, that's a pre-thinkpad thinkpad! lol you could try asking in comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware but everyone wants inflated prices for parity (ps2) memory. there's a place in north carolina that sells old ibm stuff. i betcha they'd have what you are looking for. tekserve 919.557.6242

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Navy fights new hack method|sec info see url

by wpe101＠banet.net

For those who already know about this, or are uninterested, my apologies.. Will http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C26833%2C00.html?dd.ne.htmldisp.hl.ne

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Navy fights new hack method|sec info see url

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-09-26 12:06:11 EDT, you write: > Don't sent HTML here! HTML belongs on web pages, not email! > ------- html email sucks! speaking of such, i subscribe to a windont95 newsletter called lockergnome and the writer insists on sending out the letter in html format. at least a weekly digest still gets sent in plain text format. i guess this idiot assumes that EVERYONE run ms' worst using internet exploder 4. but then again, that's the mindset that bill gates wants everyone to have, right?

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Navy fights new hack method|sec info see url

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< <a href=3D"/Radio/Index/0,55,,00.html?st.ne.nav.rad.idx">CNET Radio</a><big> </big> < <a href=3D"/Perspectives/Index/0,175,,00.html?st.ne.nav.pers.idx">Perspectives</a><big> </big> < <a href=3D"/Newsmakers/index.html?st.ne.nav.nmkr.idx">Newsmakers</a><big> </big> Please post only clear text... not everyone can read/display .html. Allison

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Memory needed (slightly OT)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Okay, this isn't quite classic, yet, but This is one of the few places that I know of where someone could help me. I have a PS/2 L40sx (laptop) that I need RAM for. I need either the special RAM made for this computer, or standard 4 meg IBM True Parity SIMMS. ThAnX, -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318

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Where to find Vax stuff in Mass.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > I live a fair distance away from Megan, Allison and Eli's but I do hav < > VAX 11/750, TU80 and two RA81's available to fetch. I'm in Western NY < < For anyone that cares, I have a set of VAX-11/750 boards that I need to < get rid of. They might be handy as a set of spares. Included is the har < to find DEC-use-only HDM (Hardware Diagnostic Module, I think. Allison?) The HDM is scarce. A 750 is a neat machine but I don't have space for it. < No, the LINC-8, PDP-8/s, PDP-8/e, and KS-10 (in a week or so, that is) a < NOT going! An 8e or 8a with programmer panel is on my wish list. What I'd like would have 8k of core and EMA and a serial card other wise minimal config. I'd like to do some hacking like putting a IDE or some such drive on it. Allison

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Motorola UDS Modem

by blakeman＠creative-net.net

Spoken for now, thanks for the inquiries.

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