- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> For the Very Reasonable Price of $10,000.00(US) I will take my >> specimen out in the driveway and beat it into bits and flinders with >> a sledgehammer, while recording the event on various video and still >> cameras... then I will ship you the film *and* the residue via >> FedEx.... and I'll pay the shipping!! >Your offer is very tempting, John, but for $10K, you should at least offer >to let me swing the sledgehammer. :-) >Could you be persuaded to do it for the sake of Art? I'd offer to throw >in an original Microsoft mouse if you'd like to make the ultimate >Microsoft bashing statement.... An original Microsoft mouse? You can be far more classic than that. Why not take my original Microsoft paper tape of Altair Basic, tie it up in knots to make an effigy of Bill Gates, place it on top of the documentation (with Microsoft's original Arizona address), and set the whole bunch on fire? Tim.

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by franke＠sbs.de

>>>>A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. >>> I may be wrong here... I think Rockwell did a *cased* KIM-1 for NRI or some >>> other such school.... Along with their AIM 65... >> Realy - that sounds new and _very_ interesting for me. >> Has anyone more info about that ? > You mean you don't remember my encased AIM65 that was on exhibit at the > VCF? There's a picture of it up on Jim Willing's web site. Good Morning Sam (I always forget that you are just 9 hours later :) Go back and read again - the news (at least to me) was that Rockwell produced KIMs (not only AIMs) or at least have boxed KIMs (Not only AIMs) to sell / give them to schools and/or NRI what ever this is (National Rifle Institute ?). ANYTHING around the kim is just interesting. Gruss Hans P.S.: Does anybody have saved some of the extention modules for the KIM ? -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Revamped Web site up

by franke＠sbs.de

> This computer, made by MOS Technologies, was created to > feature various chips that it had created. The 6502 > processor was created by Chuck Peddle a Motorola engineer > who later worked for Commodore. Some say that the 6502 is > a clone of Motorola's 6800; Peddle worked on the 6800 > project while he worked at Motorola. Maybe based on the usual mix up of facts. The 6500/x wasn't a clone at all - maybe a simplified design using the same philosophy about a CPU, but the 6500/1 (or 6501) did use the 6800 Bus _and_ was pin compatible, so a engeneer could replace the 6800 by a 6500/1 in a existing design without any consideration about hardware. Of course the software has to be rewritten. From todays point of view its like if Motorola would design a socket 7 PowerPC chip. And in fact, AMD is about to do a similar trick - they will use the EV6 bus protocall of the Alpha 21264 in their new K7 design - I don't know if it will be compatible at pin level, but I guess so. This might lead eventualy to a series of basic PC boards, able to be used with an Alpha 21264 running some Unix or an K7 as x86 compatible PC. And all at the Taiwan price range (Alpha boards are still between 175 and 300% the price of similar PC boards - at least here in Munich). Later on, the 6500/2 (or 6502) and all orther CPUs of the 6500 series used their own bus protokoll and pinout. Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Tandy 600 Archive

by roblwill＠usaor.net

What's the BASIC file for? -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************ ---------- > From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Tandy 600 Archive > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:06 AM > > At 10:17 PM 11/4/98 -0500, Roger Merchberger wrote: > > > >There are a few pictures under the "graphics" subdir... as explained to me: > >There may be some pictures ... but prolly are ascii-type art. > > I saw old Compuserve-style "RLE" graphics files, and some ".do" documents > that contained a series comma-separated numbers that are probably another > form of run-length-encoded graphics data. Not quite ASCII art. > > - John > Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm> >

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Classic != IBM AT

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I think there's an 80376 in my HP Vectra. It also has an i386SX-25. -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************ ---------- > From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Classic != IBM AT > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 5:43 AM > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com wrote: > > > No thanks to whoever said the 8088 and 8086 were the same thing. If that's > > the case, the Pentium and the 80386 are the same thing :-) > > More like the 80386SX and 80386DX, but I'm just picking nits. Which > reminds me, does anybody have one of Intel's ill-fated 80376 chips? You > know, the 386 with no real-mode or paging support. > > -- Doug >

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Acorn BBC Micros

by Arlen.Michaels.amichael＠nt.com

> Mark <mark_k(a)iname.com> wrote: > > Use a step-up transformer (110 to 220-240V), frequency probably > irrelevant, though I'm no BBC expert. You should be able to find these in > many places like Tandy/Radio Shack. > > You could hook the composite output up to a video monitor or TV. You might > have to adjust the vertical hold and vertical size to get a decent > picture. And this would be monochrome. > > Connect the TTL RGB o/p to a suitable monitor for colour. As long as the > monitor has a v.hold control you should be able to get a stable picture. > Mark is right. I'm running a UK model BBC here in Canada and it displays quite well on an RGB monitor. Don't let the monitor concern deter you from acquiring one of these elegant little 8-bitters. If you appreciate the Apple II, you'll respect what a thoughtful job Acorn did with the BBC and the version of Basic they built in. Do try to get one with a floppy-disk interface installed (it was an internal option in the earlier models). You can use it to connect old IBM 360K drives (40 track) easily enough. I haven't bothered to adapt the psu to 120V (just running it off a 120-to-240 transformer). Line frequency has not been a problem. Arlen Michaels amichael(a)nortel.ca

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Altair Image Wanted

by jsalzman＠hersheys.com

Why not use a picture of an intact one and use Kai's Power Goo or a Morphing Program to 'mash it'. When done properly, it should look believable. That would be a better alternative than making a bunch of classic collectors cry over the destruction of an Altair. Jeff Salzman >>> For the Very Reasonable Price of $10,000.00(US) I will take my >>> specimen out in the driveway and beat it into bits and flinders with >>> a sledgehammer, while recording the event on various video and still >

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Do You Have a PDP-11/03L?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Kevin, I was thinking about your system this morning. It ocurred to me that if you have an H7861 power supply (it's rated +5V @ 36A and +12V @ 5A, BTW), you may have most of the rest of the box it was originally fitted in. That PSU belongs (belonged?) to a BA-11S box, which looks like a BA-11M box as used for an 11/03, but was actually made for the PDP-11/23-plus and the (OEM) 11/73S. The original box would have had an H9276 backplane, and an AC power input box as well. Now, if you have the H9276 backplane, you have no worries about putting a 22-bit system in it, because it's not only designed for 22-bit systems, but has on-board terminators. It's a straight QQ-CD 4 x 9 "straight" backplane; all the slots have Q22 in slots A/B and CD-interconnect in C/D. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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by franke＠sbs.de

>>A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. > I may be wrong here... I think Rockwell did a *cased* KIM-1 for NRI or some > other such school.... Along with their AIM 65... Realy - that sounds new and _very_ interesting for me. Has anyone more info about that ? Gruss hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Acorn BBC Micros

by franke＠sbs.de

>> US UK >> NTSC -- smooth and flaky PAL -- flickery but more reliable Oh, and when speaking of systems - never forget the french SECAM :) Especialy we had this also here in Germany, since eastern Germany took it as Standard system, to seperate from western TV - the people had to decide if they want to see their stations in colour (SECAM) or ours (PAL) - in the beginning Multi Mode TV sets have been very rare and expensive. Officialy they also sold only sets with SECAM decoders, but since they also exportet (cheap) sets to western Germany, a modular design was choosen - and PAL decoders have been sold below the tables :) The eastern government even decided to change polarity of the SECAM colour signal, to avoide the possibility of viewing western TV in colour, even if the westen stations would switch to SECAM (at this time the PAL/SECAM dispute was still unclear). Multi mode sets have been quite popular in the past, and today, almost any TV sold (or at least any I had within the last 10 years) is able to display SAL, SECAM and NTSC, 50 and 60 Hz. Maybe this is only true above 600 USD. >> Now, more sensible input scheme SCART which seems excellent AFAIK >> on modern sets > SCART is fine until you have to wire the darn plug :-). Seriously, it > works well for what it was intended for, although the connector is no-way > constant impedance, and there are some sillies in how the pins are used > (for example, there's audio in and out (doubled for L and R channels), > composite in and out, but only one set of RGB lines). But it's a lot > better than the random mess that came before. Yes! And SCART is also almost mandatory for TVs since years. I remember using my TV (via RGB/SCART) as a colour CRT for the Atari ST, when playing games - the Display was better than on the Atari colour monitor I had at this time (But in fact I usualy used only the B&W) Also I could switch the frequency to 60 Hz. The TV did syncronize very well. >> Closed-captioning and a few Teletext; would put US closed-captioning to >> other "trick" services which shame except the TV turns it off when you >> may have rather sneaky imple- change channels; useful for many things >> mentations > Of course few people exploit teletext to its full. It's sent as ASCII > data (with in-line attribute characters for setting colours, etc) in the > vertical blanking interval. This means that it's possible to connect a > teletext decoder chip up to a computer, store/analyse/print the info, > etc. But few people have tried that. There was a teletext decoder box for > the BBC micro (to tie in the start of this thread), and there were even > plans to distribute BASIC programs for that machine on some teletext pages. Teletext decoders for PCs are still popular here in Germany. And not only PC - there have been (or better are still) a lot of solutions for decoding on home computers etc. There where several solutions for the C64 and at least two different cards for the Apple ][. For Linux are several simple programms for capturing available (working with almost any decoder) and I know even one working as a stand alone solution, scanning all programmes stations for all pages and buffering them on hard disk - Just start the server and within the next 15 minutes you have all pages from all station available in direct, random access - or just let it run continous... And to top this, I've seen one software capturing the sub title page with all changes and timestamps within a text file - you get an automatic manuscript of all speach ... or when used on news broadcasts you just get writen TV news :) And when speaking of features: European systems offer stero chanals or divided chanals since several years. I don't remember when thy started in Germany, but I think it was more than 10 years ago. Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Tandy 600 (was:Tandy MC5000)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

> > I just pulled mine from storage over the weekend and discovered that I had > left the memory switch on several years ago when I put it up. Now it won't > boot even under AC. I guess I need to replace the backup battery - anyone > have any info on this? > You shouldn't need a new battery - I think it was NiCd. You'll have to do a cold start. Make sure the memory switch is on, then hold down <alt>, <label>, <ctrl>, and <esc> down while pressing the power button. This should make it go. When I tried this on mine, I got this message after it accessed the disk drive: Uncoop System Load: Disk Error. Retry (Y/N)? Hit <N> The 600 will turn off. Turn it back on using the <power> button. You will get a message: Unable to restart, critical system data damaged. Hit any key to reinitialize system. Hit a key, and MS-WORKS 1.20 will come up Now I have a question: When I "cold start" it, and it accesses the disk drive, could it possibly be booted from a disk?? -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************

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KIM envy

by dogas＠leading.net

From: Hans Franke <franke(a)sbs.de> >A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. I may be wrong here... I think Rockwell did a *cased* KIM-1 for NRI or some other such school.... Along with their AIM 65... Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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A couple of new finds and Next question

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got a promo video copy of the Commodore Amiga rollout at the Comdex Nov '87 called AMIGA MAKE IT POSSIBLE. It features a rock band singing about the Amiga (looks like Microsoft got it's Stone idea from ?) and shows off the graphic's of the Amiga. Also got another training tape showing how to install the AMLINK for the Amiga. Awhile back picked up a TRS-80 Pocket computer with the Printer Cassette Interface. Now the Next question is does anyone no how to create a boot diskette for the Next ? I have one that will not finish the system file load and would like to boot it from the floppy if possible. I do have another working station to use for creating the boot disk. Any help on this would be great Thanks. John

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Any spots in Ft. Lauderdale

by jruschme＠exit109.com

Okay, at the risk of asking people to give up their secrets... I just found out that we've got to fly down to Ft. Lauderdale, FL for a couple of days. Any interesting spots there for classic pickings? <<<John>>>

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by franke＠sbs.de

> But, might I suggest a visceral replacement: the HP-5036A is a single > board 8085 system, and it is COOLNESS exemplified. > a display, keyboard, output leds, and (even a) speaker, and input switches > are periphs that are usable through ported i/o, digital test points > everywhere, several programs in rom, a very usalbe monitor for doing machine > code (is that oxymoronic?) Overall, a very hands on system that encourages > play and they can still be found and sometimes reasonably ( I think one went > on ePay for $80 ). .. oh yeah, the board is beautiful. I WANT IT - AND I WANT IT NOW (c)Freddy M. > Still, if anyone runs across a batch of KIMS ( especially a Rockwell > variant... ) please keep me in mind. ;) A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Classics made the WSJ Again

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I'd like to read the article. Thanks for mentioning it. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Classics made the WSJ Again Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 11/5/98 7:28 AM Hello, all: Last Friday's Wall Street Journal (NY Edition) had a front-page article about collecting classic computers. Our very own Kip Crosby, Jim Willing, and the VCF were mentioned. If anyone wants the article, I'll scan it and post it to my Web site tonight, Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========> ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Nov05.072807.1767.75571; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:28:08 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA20369; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:26:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA51008 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:58 -0800 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.137] (may be forged)) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA17 580 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:58 -0800 Received: from mainoffice - 153.35.217.115 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:55 -0800 Message-Id: <000a01be08b6$c355c200$73d92399@mainoffice> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:20:14 -0500 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)email.msn.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Classics made the WSJ Again X-To: "ClassCompList" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

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KIM envy

by dogas＠leading.net

Like probably everyone else that *dosen't* have a KIM-1, I'm finally accepting that fact that I possibly never will. I know.... it still hurts. ( I know, I need a life... ) But, might I suggest a visceral replacement: the HP-5036A is a single board 8085 system, and it is COOLNESS exemplified. a display, keyboard, output leds, and (even a) speaker, and input switches are periphs that are usable through ported i/o, digital test points everywhere, several programs in rom, a very usalbe monitor for doing machine code (is that oxymoronic?) Overall, a very hands on system that encourages play and they can still be found and sometimes reasonably ( I think one went on ePay for $80 ). .. oh yeah, the board is beautiful. Anyone ever hear of any expansion options for this system using the edge connectors? Still, if anyone runs across a batch of KIMS ( especially a Rockwell variant... ) please keep me in mind. ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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MOS 6530's (Was: KIM-1 (Was: Apple I clone (was Apple I Computer

by franke＠sbs.de

>> Ah ja. The hardest to find parts today are the 6530-x >> chips, a multi fonction chip with 1 K mask programmable >> ROM, mask programmable chip select, I/O lines, timers >> and 64 Bytes of RAM. They are only available by scraping >> a real KIM. The nearest replacement is the 6532, witch >> utilizes I/O, Timer and 128 Bytes RAM. The I/O is almost >> the same - just two pins have to be shortened, but the >> chip select is fixed and not equal to none of the 6530-x. > There was one version of one of the CBM disk drives (I think it was the > 8252LP) where a 6530 was replaced by a daughtboard containing (I think) > an 6532 + a ROM + TTL glue. I don't know how universal that solution is, > but I guess something could be worked out. Jep, thats exactly the soulution I was suggesting. Ans speaking of 6530s, I always wanted to know what versions have existed/are existing, and where they have been used. 6530-002 KIM 1 KIM (Keyboard Input Monitor) 6530-003 KIM 1 Autio tape extention for KIM 6530-004 JOLT (I just don't remember the software name) ??? Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Now quite OT: Re: ePay

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 03:18 PM 10/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I.e., you could post "I just bought one at a thrift for $12.50" when >> the bidding for an Atari 1200xl goes over $100... > >Why would they want to do that? It would be the same as shooting >themselves in the foot. Not to mention which, it's totally irrelevant. If I was selling a Ferrari for $10K, and you came along and told the bidder that you had just bought one for $100, would that matter? What would be relevant is how much you would sell your 1200XL or Ferrari for. If it's not for sale, what you paid for it, or even the fact that another exists, is meaningless. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Classics made the WSJ Again

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: Last Friday's Wall Street Journal (NY Edition) had a front-page article about collecting classic computers. Our very own Kip Crosby, Jim Willing, and the VCF were mentioned. If anyone wants the article, I'll scan it and post it to my Web site tonight, Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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Adaptec HD controller access?

by roblwill＠usaor.net

> Generally you type int he sequence where you run what's in memory at the > beginning of the ROM address, usually C800 as the primary controller. At the > Debug prompt you type G=C800:5 or it may be G=CC00:5 or G=D000:5 as well as > another I forget. It also is dependant upon the controller itself but they > usually followed some standards. > I'll need to try the other addersses. I'm basically assuming that <G=C800:5> is an incorrect address, since it causes the computer to reboot. > Once the program starts you have to figure out what they're asking for as this > is where they get different. Western Digital controllers were pretty > striaghtforward. > That they were. I've worked with them in my Tandy 1000's. -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************

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Spring Cleaning - Revisited

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

Okay, to avoid confusion, I'm going ahead and adding prices to these. Some prices are negotiable, most are firm. $10 plus shipping, the RAM cards alone are worth $10 :) Atari 800 (not working, parts?) $30 each, they work and include cables Atari 1050 Disk Drive (two of them) $30 each Commodore 64 (complete in box, I have two like this) $30 for the working grey one, the broken one is a white one and I'll sell for $10 Commodore 1541 Disk Drive (2 in box, one works, one doesn't) $25 Commodore 1541 II Disk Drive (complete in box) $35 Commodore 128 (complete in box) $25 Commodore 1571 Disk Drive (complete in box) $100, it's in beautiful shape. Compupro S-100 Enclosure (motherboard and PS only, no cards) $600, it works, it needs a DPST toggle switch (whomever owned it before me moved power off the front panel to a toggle switch in back, it broke recently) or you can move the power back to the front panel. IMSAI 8080 With: 8080 Processor Card (IMSAI) SIO4 (Godbout w/docs) RAM64 (Godbout w/docs) PIO8 (IMSAI) $40 Kaypro I (incl. boot disk) $40, this has a third party RTC upgrade in it, it needs new batteries. Kaypro II (incl. boot disk) $40 Kaypro IV (incl. boot disk) Make offer. The cards are in pretty good shape but the disk drives are shot and the power supply needs restoration. NorthStar Horizon (not working) $200. Works perfectly, comes with Graphic CP/M 2.2 NorthStar Advantage (works completely, with boot disk) $20, good for parts. Might actually be repairable. Has the modem upgrade. Osborne I (not working) $50, works great, I have CP/M and P-System boot disks Osborne Executive (incl. boot disk) $300, mostly works, needs a $5 replacement keyboard encoder Processor Technology SOL w/SOLOS personality module $30, cute little all-in-one system Sanyo CP/M System (with software) $30 TI-99/4A Computer (beige model, in box) $60 TRS-80 Model III (with some software) $50, for both 8" DS/DD Floppy Drive (in wooden enclosure) and Controller (Godbout w/docs) 8" SS/SD Floppy Drive (no enclosure) $150, it's a really nice subsystem. 8" SS/SD Dual Drive Subsystem (ICOM) $50 8" Hard Disk Drive in enclosure w/controller (Fujitsu Hard Drive, Godbout Controller w/docs) A couple of things I forgot... $30 Macintosh Portable - Needs a new display cable and battery. Includes carrying case. $50 "Fat" Macintosh - Mac 512K, works great, in original box with original packing. $20 CoCo 2 - Works peachy $30 Epson HX-20 - Brand new, never used. Works great. $50 HP 9835B - Works perfectly, even the printer. Buyers pay shipping charges FOB Lawrence, Massachusetts. I'm willing to pay parts of shipping on larger items. Whatever isn't spoken for here by next monday (11/9) will be posted on Ebay. Thanks Tony

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FA: Apple Lisa and Apple IIC LCD Display

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 05:53 PM 11/1/98 +0000, you wrote: >> would've appreciated an offer on this list first rather than going to ebay and >> then announcing it to us all.. that would have been an even better >I hate Ebay and always kick Ebay for loss of intellegient control to >keep things in reasonable terms and less of "out of control", root There are a lot of people who seriously lament the fact that they'll never be able to afford to buy a house in San Francisco. Why? Because there are a lot more people who want them then there are houses. So the prices go up. You can't fault the people who sell them for not selling them cheaper. Sure, you can lament the fact that there are more collectors out there than there are Apple I's or whatever, but it won't do you any good, and it makes no sense to chastise ebay for creating an efficient way to get those items in front of more people or sellers for using that method to get the most for their items. That's life, my friend. If you don't have the $ to buy on ebay, you can instead work a little harder and find the same things elsewhere for lower prices (our own beloved Sam is an excellent example of this.) If you've got the $, you can be lazy and just bid a zillion samolians on ebay. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Now quite OT: Re: ePay

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 11:05 AM 10/26/98 -0800, you wrote: >What I'd love to see is a live auction site, where the auctions for each >item don't last more than 10 minutes or so. Descriptions/pictures for the When I was working for Compuserve's Collectibles Forum (a few years back, before my mom passed away), we did just that for the "Other Collectibles" section. I believe they did it for coins as well. Given IRC or something similar, it wouldn't be hard to do. I don't think web-based live auctions would work; updates wouldn't be live enough. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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Mac emulators?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

there's one i have on cd called executor2 that runs most but not all pre system7 apps pretty good. not good with sound though. In a message dated 10/30/98 8:19:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time, roblwill(a)usaor.net writes: > Hello everyone! > > Is there such a thing as a Mac emulator for a PC? I'd like to download > some Mac stuff from the internet, but the only computer that has internet > access is a PC. > > Any suggestions (besides buying one of those Mac/PC programs)? > > ThAnX,

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Revamped Web site up

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: I just revamped my Classic Computing web site because I wasn't happy with its organization. Check out http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ and let me know what you think. (I already know that I have to fix the hyperlink colors.) Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

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Acorn BBC Micros

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 4, 19:43, Tony Duell wrote: > > I guess I'd need a PAL monitor > Well, there are 3 monitor outputs on a BBC micro. > The second is a BNC socket carrying composite video. By default this is > monochrome (no PAL subcarrier), but you can add an internal link on > late-version machines to add the colour (PAL, of course) information. On the earlier machines (Issue 2 or 3 PCB) you just need to add a 47nF capacitor to link the colour burst signal from the circuit that drives the modulator, to the circuit that drives the composite video. > The last video output is a 6 pin DIN socket. It carries TTL RGB signals > and compositie sync. If you can find a RGB colour monitor that can use UK > rates (and a lot can), then you can connect it here. The Philips 8833 monitors that (at least in Europe) were badged by Commodore and Atari for Amigas and STs work very well. But be warned - the Beeb outputs composite sync, and the centre pin of the RGB connector goes directly to the +5V supply -- which a few monitors don't like. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Looking for Sony V7021 IC data sheet and Amiga UNIX questio

by mark_k＠iname.com

On 4 Nov 1998 Eric Smith wrote: >> Does anyone have a data sheet for the Sony V7021 IC? This is a video decoder > >That's not a Sony part number. Sony used > CX<digits><suffix> >on older stuff, and > CX<letter><digits><suffix> >on newer stuff, where letter is M for memory, P for processor, A for analog, >D for other digital, etc. > >What other numbers are on the part? Does it actually bear a Sony logo? It absolutely is a Sony part. 28 pin package, pins are on a finer pitch than "normal" DIL ICs, maybe 0.4 wide. On the chip is printed: SONY [the Sony logo] V7021 (C) Asuki [Asuki is in Japanese katakana, not romaji] 142B95K On a related subject, can anyone recommend a cheap IC which I can use for buffering RGB signals, to driving 75ohm-terminated outputs? -- Mark

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Do You Have a PDP-11/03L?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 4, 18:42, Daniel T. Burrows wrote: > Subject: Re: Do You Have a PDP-11/03L? > > >I have an 11/03L carcass and am hoping to use the backplane for a set of > >11/73 boards I've acquired for a friend. > I would be very cautious installing the 11/73 boards into an 11/03 > backplane. You won't do any harm on a genuine DEC backplane; the worst that'll happen is that BDAL18-21 won't be bussed. 11/73S machines were sold in BA11N boxes, which are very similar to the original 11/03 and 11/23 boxes. However, be wary of Plessey backplanes; some of these put 24V or AC voltages onto the "spare" bus lines. > I have numerous BA23 chassis here if you need one but I would > look locally for a MV2 or 3 to save shipping costs. I usually pick up MV2's > for $5 to $50 depending on what is in them. > Also look for the BA123's. They were only sold for MV's but they make good > PDP11 test beds. MicroPDP-11/83s were sold in BA123 cabinets. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Do You Have a PDP-11/03L?

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>I have an 11/03L carcass and am hoping to use the backplane for a set of >11/73 boards I've acquired for a friend. I would be very cautious installing the 11/73 boards into an 11/03 backplane. I have numerous BA23 chassis here if you need one but I would look locally for a MV2 or 3 to save shipping costs. I usually pick up MV2's for $5 to $50 depending on what is in them. Also look for the BA123's. They were only sold for MV's but they make good PDP11 test beds. I have a couple here just for testing PDP11 parts. Dan Burrows

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Acorn BBC Micros

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 4, 23:27, Mark wrote: > Subject: Re: Acorn BBC Micros > SCART is super for things like computers and game consoles, since it allows RGB > input, something that apparently almost no US TVs do. And it has IN and OUT for most signals, so you can do loopback and daisy-chaining. > >To keep this on the topic of the thread, I *am* interested in getting a BBC. > >I guess I'd need a PAL monitor and a 220-volt, 50-hz power supply to run it > >though. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Use a step-up transformer (110 to 220-240V), frequency probably irrelevant, > though I'm no BBC expert. As Tony has pointed out, it's very easy to convert -- all the Astec and BSR SMPSUs that were used have a link you can make for 110V operation. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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PDP-11/44 boot prompt

by hhacker＠gte.net

It is interesting that 5150 is also the numerical code attached to the process by which a person is involutarily committed to a mental ward. The first personal computer I ever saw was an IBM, though the number is not now known to me. However, it had a switch on the front which allowed for either execution of a BASIC interpreter, or execution of an APL interpreter. It was a little larger than an Osborne 1 but, its structure had a lot in common with the Osborne 1, or the Kaypro, etc. That a person does not have knowledge of a source of a "BIG IRON" machine, nor the ability to operate it has little to do with the definition of personal computer. In the early to mid 70's, I was an operator of 360 and 370 computers, and believe me, it is perfectly possible for a single operator to keep such machines in operation. William R. Buckley -----Original Message----- From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 1:30 PM Subject: Re: PDP-11/44 boot prompt >"Max Eskin" <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Sorry, I meant home personal computers. PDPs, IMSAIs, various >> development systems don't count. Satisfied? > >Since when is an IMSAI not a personal computer? Surely you're not one of the >people that claim that IBM "invented" the Personal Computer with the 5150? > >

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Tandy 600 (was:Tandy MC5000)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

> Naturally the > machine died like a pig, leaving less of a ripple as it sank than > the Tandy 2000 or even the Tandy 600 portable had. > Just how many of the 600's were made/possibly are still in working order? Just how rare are they, and how much would one be worth? I had people trying to sell me non-working ones for $50 and over (I didn't buy them because I have a working one). Also on the topic of the 600, Does anyone have a modem cable and a printer cable for one (or a BASIC chip)? One last question... Is there any way to run non-ROM programs on the 600? ThAnX, -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************

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Tandy 600 (was:Tandy MC5000)

by bwit＠ticnet.com

On Wednesday, November 04, 1998 5:20 PM, Jason Willgruber [SMTP:roblwill@usaor.net] wrote: > > Naturally the > > machine died like a pig, leaving less of a ripple as it sank than > > the Tandy 2000 or even the Tandy 600 portable had. > > > Just how many of the 600's were made/possibly are still in working order? > Just how rare are they, and how much would one be worth? I had people > trying to sell me non-working ones for $50 and over (I didn't buy them > because I have a working one). No idea but you sure don't run into them very often. > > Also on the topic of the 600, Does anyone have a modem cable and a printer > cable for one (or a BASIC chip)? I have all of the above but I wouldn't be interested in parting with any of it. > > One last question... > Is there any way to run non-ROM programs on the 600? You could run programs from diskette. The machine has an 8086 chip in it I believe and I think there was an assembler available for it but I've never seen one. I just pulled mine from storage over the weekend and discovered that I had left the memory switch on several years ago when I put it up. Now it won't boot even under AC. I guess I need to replace the backup battery - anyone have any info on this? > > ThAnX, > > -Jason > > *********************************************** > * Jason Willgruber * > * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * > * * > * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * > * ICQ#-1730318 * > * /0\/0\ * > * > Long Live the 5170! * > * \___/ * > ************************************************

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Acorn BBC Micros

by mark_k＠iname.com

On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 D. Peschel wrote> >NTSC -- smooth and flaky PAL -- flickery but more reliable > (still prone to interference, but fewer > color-related symptoms, based on my watching > Wimbledon from an old flat near Knightsbridge) For TV programmes, the flicker isn't really noticeable (though maybe it is if you're used to 60Hz NTSC pictures). The higher PAL vertical resolution and no 3:2 pulldown is better suited to films than NTSC. No hue problems on PAL either (no hue control at all). >VHF frequency bands: VHF frequency bands: >channels 2-13 ? >(1 was scrapped in short order) I think VHF has long been out of use for TV in the UK. The old VHF transmitters were turned off in 1979 (or thereabouts). >UHF frequency bands: UHF frequency bands: >channels 14-99? ? >(not sure -- little-used, many >conflicting terms and marketing) Don't know what channel numbers are used, though probably much the same as in the USA -- I managed to get a picture using my old US portable TV the other day (albeit in monochrome with no sound and slightly stretched picture). >Now, more sensible input scheme SCART which seems excellent AFAIK >on modern sets SCART is super for things like computers and game consoles, since it allows RGB input, something that apparently almost no US TVs do. >To keep this on the topic of the thread, I *am* interested in getting a BBC. >I guess I'd need a PAL monitor and a 220-volt, 50-hz power supply to run it >though. Does anyone have any ideas? Use a step-up transformer (110 to 220-240V), frequency probably irrelevant, though I'm no BBC expert. You should be able to find these in many places like Tandy/Radio Shack. You could hook the composite output up to a video monitor or TV. You might have to adjust the vertical hold and vertical size to get a decent picture. And this would be monochrome. Connect the TTL RGB o/p to a suitable monitor for colour. As long as the monitor has a v.hold control you should be able to get a stable picture. -- Mark

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Almost on topic VMS 5.2 help please

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

-----Original Message----- From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 14:36 Subject: Re: Almost on topic VMS 5.2 help please >< >>> B/R5:1 >< SYSBOOT> SET/STARTUP OPA0: >< SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 > >I've seen that but I've not used it. The procedure I use is basically out >of the VMS docs. SYSUAFALT from the docs (I think that's what it is) mostly works too, though it might not on some systems. The VMS faq mentions it, and suggests the other way as being better. YMMV. I've used both at different times on VS 3100/4000 and Uvax II machines, and on a 6000 (or two). cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Marks College Port Pirie South Australia. My ICQ# is 1970476 Ph. 61-411-623-978 (Mobile) 61-8-8633-0619 (Home) 61-8-8633-8834 (Work-Direct) 61-8-8633-0104 (Fax)

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Classic != IBM AT

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

not sure about the 8533. there was a 9535 which of only a few were made which had a 90 day warranty only, and then there is the 9533 a PS/2E. very cool and although it's too new to discuss, WILL be a classic collectable. that's why i'm keeping mine and hopefully can get the one back that i gave to my brother. it was a 486slc and had one isa slot that usually had a pcmcia adaptor in it. In a message dated 98-11-05 16:31:15 EST, you write: << With nearly 40 of them here I'm sure they exist without a doubt. As for it being the last ISA, nope. There were even 386SX ISA machines in the PS/2 line, such as the 8533 (I think that was the model). The 2x, 3x and 4x models all had ISA slots. The 5x models and up were microchannel. >>

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by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

Russ Blakeman wrote: > Wanna buy some PS/2's??? I have a bunch, models 30 (8088) through 95XP (8595 not > 9595) > > John Rollins wrote: > >> >The PS/2 Model 30=286 didn't have a cable going to the riser card in it, >> >nor was it an MCA machine. It was an ISA machine, and The HD plugged into One of you thinks the 8530 (PS/2 model 30) was an 8088, the other thinks it was an 80286. I claim you're both wrong. The model 30 was IBM's first (and to my knowledge only) machine to be based on the 8086. If I am wrong, and a 286 version did exist, no doubt flames will appear in great numbers. Philip.

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cnet: "Fraud threatens auction sites"

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28301,00.html?st.ne.fd.gif.f Extract: Online auctioneers smell a rat. Individuals who sell items over online auction sites like eBay <http://www.ebay.com/> and AuctionUniverse <http://www.auctionuniverse.com/> suspect that their bidding sessions are being artificially manipulated by phantom buyers known as "shielders" and "shills"--and that the auction sites are not doing all they can to discourage the fraud.

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by roblwill＠usaor.net

The 30-286 did exist. I just sold one, and have one torn apart in my basement. I *think* that they were the last ISA PS/2's. Not too sure about that, though. -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************ > > One of you thinks the 8530 (PS/2 model 30) was an 8088, the other thinks it > was an 80286. I claim you're both wrong. The model 30 was IBM's first > (and to my knowledge only) machine to be based on the 8086. > > > If I am wrong, and a 286 version did exist, no doubt flames will appear in > great numbers. > > > > Philip. > > > > >

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DayStar adapter for IIsi

by jruschme＠hiway1.exit109.com

A while back I picked up a Mac IIsi which included the adapter for a DayStar accelerator (but no accel.). Given that, I hace a few questions: 1) I notice that there are two ports on the board. One is obviously for the accelerator. What is the other one? A IIsi PDS? 2) Since I don't have a DayStar card, what else (if anything) can I do with the adapter? Can I plug in a IIci cache card? 3) Anybody want to swap it for a Nubus adapter? :-) Thanks in advance... <<<John>>>

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Do You Have a PDP-11/03L?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Hi, Kevin. On Nov 3, 21:46, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > I have an 11/03L carcass and am hoping to use the backplane for a set of > 11/73 boards I've acquired for a friend. > > I need info on the power supply, hopefully a print set, or in the least > some info on the pinout of the 10 conductor ribbon cable that runs from the > supply to the front panel. My machine has _no_ front panel! The front panel pin numbers match the PSU numbering at the other end, so as long as you can identify pin 1, here are the connections for a real 11/03 panel: 1 BPOK H 2 BEVENT L 3 SRUN L 4 not used/not connected on the front panel 5 GND 6 GND 7 +5V 8 SPARE 9 BHALT L 10 BDCOK H On a real 11/03 panel, SPARE is connected to one end of a 220-ohm resistor; the other end of that resistor is connected to the cathode position of an LED position -- the LED isn't actually fitted -- and the anode of the LED is connected to the +5V line. The other signals are connected to a small circuit containing bus buffers and some inverters to drive 2 LEDs (POWER OK and RUN) and be driven by two toggle-switches (AUX ON grounds the BEVENT line and RUN/HALT is connected via a bus buffer to BHALT L) and a momentary changeover switch (which feeds a pair of monostables to regulate the pulse width, which then drives BDCOK H). > I want to determine which lines are the (presumably) DC OK, HALT, RESTART, > etc, so that I can install the 11/73 gear and control the system. See above. > Secondly, the +12 VDC line from the supply is sitting at 9.5V, no load. > There may be a problem, I can fix it but the print set would be most helpful. Yes, that's definitely a fault, though you should test it under load and look at the BDCOK signal from the PSU. Sorry, I only have diagrams for H876 and H780; the H8761 is a switch mode (as is the 786) but fairly different, I think. Anyway, sending a copy of the print set over the Atlantic might be slow and expensive :-) BTW, a 7861 is not original equipment for any 11/03, it came off an 11/73S or 11/23plus. Perhaps you have a 22-bit backplane as well? What's the backplane H-number? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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KIM-1 (Was: Apple I clone (was Re: Apple I Computer For

by franke＠sbs.de

>>> I knew someone who built a KIM-1 from schematics. His departure is that >>> he did it all on the S100 bus. He ran it for a number of years while we >>> were in school together. I need to find out what happened to that >>> machine. >> KIM-1 from schematics ? And where did he get the >> 6530-2 and -3 without taking them from a real KIM ? >> I guess it was more like a KIM alike with 6532's >> (with a bit of additional decoding, changing two >> lines and just not using half of the RAM they could >> work as 6530 without ROM) and a 2716 (also with >> additional address decoding). > I'm not sure how he got around this but I know he did this at a time when > the KIM was still in production and as I recall he did buy some specific > parts directly from the KIM-1 manufacture. I remember the kim keyboard > being genuine. Ah ja. The hardest to find parts today are the 6530-x chips, a multi fonction chip with 1 K mask programmable ROM, mask programmable chip select, I/O lines, timers and 64 Bytes of RAM. They are only available by scraping a real KIM. The nearest replacement is the 6532, witch utilizes I/O, Timer and 128 Bytes RAM. The I/O is almost the same - just two pins have to be shortened, but the chip select is fixed and not equal to none of the 6530-x. I made a design for a KIM clone years ago, but I never did build it actualy. These 6530s are just hard to replace - and if I start to replace, I could also drop most of the other additional stuff not needed today, like cassete interface or 50 mA loop, exchange the direct controlled LED by some 'intelligent' ones and the and would be a 199x KIM but no replika ... So where is the sense... Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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Acorn BBC Micros

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 3, 21:23, D. Peschel wrote: > > US UK > > NTSC -- smooth and flaky PAL -- flickery but more reliable 60Hz vertical scan - smooth 50Hz vertical scan - more flickery NTSC - flaky PAL - more reliable > VHF frequency bands: VHF frequency bands: > channels 2-13 ? > (1 was scrapped in short order) 2-13 (or was it 2-12?) TV was removed from the VHF band in Europe some years ago. The frequencies have been reallocated for various comms uses. > UHF frequency bands: UHF frequency bands: > channels 14-99? ? > (not sure -- little-used, many > conflicting terms and marketing) 15-65 IIRC > Satellite and cable TV bands: Satellite and cable TV bands: > Too complicated for me to guess ? Mostly C-band? Ku-band > "tuning in" may be required to relate ideal > channel number with actual band number > (which changes from area to area) although they are published in various places > Devices attached to ch. 3 or 4 Devices attached to ch. 36? > (whichever is unused) in past Ch.36 is actually allocated to other uses, so when the "Channel 5" TV station went live, mainly using channels around ch.36, lots of people had problems :-) Most of the TV stations use channels separated by 3 chanels (so 33, 36, 39) to minimise interference effects. > To keep this on the topic of the thread, I *am* interested in getting a BBC. > I guess I'd need a PAL monitor and a 220-volt, 50-hz power supply to run it > though. Does anyone have any ideas? There was a U.S. version with a 110VAC PSU. The standard PSU is a switcher, though, and I know of one person who (inadvertantly) used it successfully on 120V. I got a phone call one day (in my capacity as engineering support person at an Acorn distributor) from a guy who'd bought a BBC and a monitor. He was having trouble with the monitor; it turned out he was working in Saudi Arabia, and had been using a TV originally. All was well, until he upgraded to a monitor bought in the UK. It turned out the monitor was intended for 240V, and didn't like Saudi electricity. Then it dawned on us -- the Beeb was OK, even though it was also running on the same Saudi 120V. YMMV :-) I think the 50/60Hz difference *may* be a problem, since a US monitor will prefer to sync to 60Hz. The US BBCs had a modified MOS ROM, with US scan rates and "colour" changed to "color" in the messages and BASIC keywords. That was about the only difference, AFAIR. The line frequency won't bother the Beeb PSU, but the monitor may not like the scan rate. It's very similar to a CGA-style monitor, BTW. An Amiga colour monitor should work well (Philips CM8833 or equivalent). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Acorn BBC Micros

by Roger＠Sinasohn.com

One of the advantages of a web site -- you get tips like this: >From: Crispin Boylan <viewtronix(a)easynet.co.uk> >To: roger(a)sinasohn.com >Subject: Your Computer Collection > >Hi > >Love the site, great to see someone preserving computing history :) > >I live in the UK, and I noticed you don't have our best Micro in your >collection - The Acorn BBC Micro Model B! This is a real charmer, a bit >like the Apple II really, I don't believe it sold well in the states >though due to the aforementioned puter. If you want to put one in your >collection, I know a site selling them: > >http://www.karoo.co.uk/8bs/8bsad.htm >These are really good and refurbished, ?30 excluding postage to foreign >countries, but I know you will get a good deal if you buy one. > >Hope this helps you! > >Cheers. >Cris. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

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by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Ruschmeyer [mailto:jruschme@hiway1.exit109.com] > There was also, however, a 286 version of the Model 30 which came out a > little later. (I'll let the IBM experts come up with the model#.) "Model 30/286", strangely enough :) Kai

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Spring Cleaning - Revisited

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

>Just to inject a little levity... > >$30 > >Epson HX-20 - Brand new, never used. Works great. >Excuse me, but if it's never been used, how do you know it worksgreat? :-) >(reminds me of an actual classified ad - > "Parachute, used once, never opened, small stain. - $100") Hahahaha! Sorry. I turned it on once to make sure it worked, put it back in the carrying case, and never touched it again :) Tony

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PDP11 training troubleshooting

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Were you give (or allowed) a KM11 maintenance card? For those who've not >seen one, it's a board (acutally 2 boards...) that you stick in special >slot in some DEC machines. It's got 28 lights and 4 switches on it. In >the 11/45 it'll let you single-step the microcode (or even the clock >sequencer), display flag signals, etc. You can get the uPC on the panel, >of course. I actually have one of those boards with the unibus signal overlay. It also plugs into a connector on one of the control boards in an RX01 drive. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Spring Cleaning - UPDATE

by Anthony.Dellett＠Staples.com

I have removed stuff that is sold or is pending sale. $10 plus shipping, the RAM cards alone are worth $10 :) Atari 800 (not working, parts?) $30 Atari 1050 Disk Drive (SIO cable included) $30 Atari 1050 Disk Drive (SIO cable included) $30 Commodore 64 (complete in box) $30 Commodore 1541 Disk Drive (in box, works, grey model) $10 Commodore 1541 Disk Drive (in box, dont work, white model) $25 Commodore 1541 II Disk Drive (complete in box) $35 Commodore 128 (complete in box) $600 IMSAI 8080 With: 8080 Processor Card (IMSAI) SIO4 (Godbout w/docs) RAM64 (Godbout w/docs) PIO8 (IMSAI) (it works, it needs a DPST toggle switch (whomever owned it before me moved power off the front panel to a toggle switch in back, it broke recently) or you can move the power back to the front panel.) $40 Kaypro I (incl. boot disk) $40 Kaypro II (incl. boot disk, this has a third party RTC upgrade in it, it needs new batteries) $40 Kaypro IV (incl. boot disk) Make offer NorthStar Horizon (not working, The cards are in pretty good shape but the disk drives are shot and the power supply needs restoration) $200 NorthStar Advantage (Works perfectly, comes with Graphic CP/M 2.2) $20 Osborne I (not working, good for parts. Might actually be repairable. Has the modem upgrade) $30 Sanyo CP/M System (with software, cute little all-in-one system) $30 TI-99/4A Computer (beige model, in box) $60 TRS-80 Model III (with some software) $150 8" SS/SD Dual Drive Subsystem (ICOM, it's a really nice subsystem) $50 "Fat" Macintosh (Mac 512K, works great, in original box with original packing) $20 CoCo 2 (Works peachy) Buyers pay shipping charges FOB Lawrence, Massachusetts. I'm willing to pay parts of shipping on larger items. Whatever isn't spoken for here by next monday (11/9) will be posted on Ebay. Thanks Tony

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by franke＠sbs.de

>> I wish I could forget the Cassiopeia; I don't know if Windows CE is >> significant out of dozens of other OSs but I think that's a good bet. > Come on, it's Microsoft. The first version of anything from Microsoft is > collectible. (I'm hoping that I can collect the last version of Microsoft > software some day soon.) First version yes, especialy when it is a gigantic flop like Windows for Pen Computing :) But when it comes to be a success - or at least it is not floping, I think there is no urgend need to find it. And until now, CE seams to stay as a Me To product (After the Newton retreat the Pilot is just the standard pen device). Gruss Hans P.S.: I'm still looking for a Cristal Newt (MP120 in clear case), and a _reasonable_ priced eMate (And of course any hard and software around the Newt, especialy development tools etc). -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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