- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by fpp＠concentric.net

>. The abuse is where >a third party pretends to be the seller, contacts the second etc. bidders >and requests payment be sent to a blind PO Box, then skips with the funds >never sending any goods. >BTW I just sent an inquiry to eBay to see if this is rumor, hoax, or fact. This, I agree, is a scam. Problem seems to be that Ebay is just so huge. I heard so much about Ebay here that as a joke I listed an old, empty, Zippo fuel can. It sold for $22.22 plus shipping! My Lord, that explains the stupid prices for old computers on Ebay. These people have no lives and a hell of a lot of money. Now if I only could find that old can of......

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(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by fpp＠concentric.net

>It means that the "dealer" has an item X in their inventory, they see that someone else on Ebay is selling an equivalent X. The dealer follows the auction to completion, when complete, the dealer sends email to the second highest bidder and asks if they would like to purchase the item from them for the price they offered the seller. This is a scam? Give it a break guys. If I bid on something and am not the high bidder I would like a chance to buy. If you don't then don't reply. Sometimes you can get in a bidding war and end up pay many times the value of an item, I.E. Imsai or Altec on Ebay, Is it really that different than making an offer here to someone who has something you want? So who looses if a seller contacts you and you agree on a fair price? Ebay? Time to face the facts Ebay, Yahoo, etc., etc. auctions are going to stay a while.

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(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> The above was an explanation of the legitimate practice. The abuse is where > a third party pretends to be the seller, contacts the second etc. bidders > and requests payment be sent to a blind PO Box, then skips with the funds > never sending any goods. > > BTW I just sent an inquiry to eBay to see if this is rumor, hoax, or fact. > I always check the email address of the person requesting payment. If it is not the same as listed in Ebay, I would get really suspicious. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Who are you?

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> There's a certain amount of disagreement on whether PCs are classic or not. > One camp says that any computer over 10 years old qualifies, another will > say that since the PC archetecture is at the core of modern PCs that it doesn't. > Personally I say welcome to the group. I have no particular interest in 286 and newer machines but, many of those machines do qualify under the 10 year rule so, welcome aboard. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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OT:Jock or Nerd

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I know this is OT but thought you guys and gals might find it entertaining. Joe > >The answer to the eternal question "Is it better to be a jock or a nerd?", I >submit the following: > >Michael Jordan makes over $300,000 a game. That = $10,000 a minute, at an >average 30 minutes per game. With $40 million in endorsements, he makes >$178,100 a day, working or not. > >If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while visions of >sugarplums dance in his head. > >If he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $7.00, but he'll make $18,550 >while he's there. > >If he decides to have a 5 minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it. > >He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage. > >He'll make $3,710 while watching each episode of Friends. > >If he wanted to save up for a new Acura NSX ($90,000) it would take him a >whole 12 hours. > >If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they would >have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second. > >He'll probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be >reimbursed $33,390 for that round. > >Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax >deferred account (401k), he will hit the federal cap of $9500 at 8:30 a.m. >on January 1st. > >If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you 'd be living >comfortably at $65,000 a year. > >He'll make about $19.60 while watching the 100 meter dash in the Olympics. > >He'll make about $15,600 during the Boston Marathon. > >While the common person is spending about $20 for a meal in his trendy >Chicago restaurant, he'll pull in about $5600. > >This Year, he'll make more than twice as much as all U.S. past Presidents >for all of their terms combined. > >Amazing isn't it? > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >However, if Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 250 years, he'll >still have less than Bill Gates has today. > >Game over. >Nerd wins. >

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(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Usually I remain aloof from e-bay stuff, as I do not use, or much like, the system. HOWEVER, this seems an easy way to get scammed by someone and does not appear to be reasonably detectable until it's too late. I have deleted identifying bits in the text to keep from propagating innocent IDs all over. Forwarded message follows: -------------------------------------------------------- Xref: ix.netcom.com rec.radio.swap I don't normally post on this group, but this is so important that it needs to get out as quickly as possible before anybody else gets burned. Late last month (April) I had put a XXXX repeater up for sale on Ebay. It was bid on by quite a few different persons. The high bidder on it didn't contact me for four days and finally sent an email backing out of the deal. This resulted in a negative feedback being placed which made it public knowledge that he had back out. Two days ago I was contacted by two of the higher bidders. Each had been contacted by a person in Xxxxxx Xxxxx, California wanting to know if they were still willing to honor their bid on the repeater! Now this is the very same repeater sitting in my shop as I type this! Since the email address of the seller in the original auction was overlooked (you would have to do a search of past auctions to get a peek at it) this person played the part very well as the owner and managed to get two money orders sent to him. The address he uses is a mail drop on XXXXX Rd in Xxxxx Xxxxxx, CA. If you see this street come up in any dealings with a person out in that area BEWARE! PLEASE if you have been or get contacted by anybody on Ebay who wants to pursue a bid you made on an item, double check his email address >from the original auction page. Ebay has been notified and I'm pushing to get the bidding history either removed or modified to notify all involved that the history has been accessed. Thank you for taking the time to read. Signed XXXXXXXXX ---------------------------------------------------------- End forwarded message Since we here are dealing in a different line of equipment, I did not include the alleged miscreant's address or city... but the algorithm of the scam can be applied anywhere. Of course I realize that anyone can post anything they like to Usenet, but this has the Ring of Truth to it. Caveat Vendor..... just another reason I dislike e-bay. No *real* auction is timed... the sale is made final when no other bidder increments the price... so even 'sniping' has a balancing force against it: the ever-rising price. When there is a known time limit for the sale to expire, then how can that be fair? Cheers John

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Kermit-11 user manual

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 17, 16:12, David Hoskins wrote: > Subject: Kermit-11 user manual > Kermit-11 is a file transfer program that runs under RT-11 and posibly = > other PDP11 systems such as RSTS, RSX, TSX It not only runs under those operating systems, but under just about every system known to man... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Dayton Hamvention report

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> wrote: > > I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one > > from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the > > picture said: > > > Wanted: PDP8's > > > Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > > > Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of > > us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( > > Say, what about a licenced copy of your T ? I don't know about getting into _that_ business. It was OK to make a couple of shirts from transfer paper, but it's quite time consuming to print out the sheet, trim the edges, iron the shirt and backing pillowcase, then apply the image. If I owned the image, I'd consider it, but the image that I liked the best was the photo of someone's personal machine; they own the copyright, but were nice enough to let me use the image for my own purposes. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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FW:[oldies] How to get rid of DEC Rainbow 100's?

by pjoules＠coleg-powys.ac.uk

As usual, contact the poster rather than myself: On Sun, 16 May 1999 16:28:45 -0700, in comp.sys.dec.micro cryorunner(a)aol.com (Rhett James Barnes) wrote: >I have a couple of DEC Rainbow 100's here that I want to get rid of. I >feel kind of guilty just throwing them away, as I have a pretty good >collection of origial software with manuals, and one printer, and I >figured that some collector might enjoy having a fairly complete system. >I know it's not a very popular computer, but I figured that there has to >be someone out there. Anyone have any ideas about how to rescue these >things from the garbage can? >-Rhett >cryorunner(a)aol.com > >PS. Sorry for posting about a 1982 on this 1999 group, but it's been hard >to find an appropriate outlet.

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Dayton Hamvention report

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

> I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one > from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the > picture said: > Wanted: PDP8's > Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of > us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( Say, what about a licenced copy of your T ? Gruss H. -- Traue keinem Menschen der 5 Tage blutet und immer noch nicht tod ist.

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good source of obscure IBM parts?

by red＠bears.org

As the new owner of an abandoned IBM product (Thinkpad Power Series 850, 1995, not on topic, though highly advanced at the time and now abandoned) I was wondering if anybody had any favourite IBM remarketers they turned to when in need of IBM unobtanium, or were chummy with any warehouse managers... I'm willing to throw money at this one, it's too close to being Really Cool to not. (: For those unfamiliar with the Thinkpad Power Series line, they are IBM's brief foray into the RS/6000 laptop market. The 850 sports a 100 MHz PPC 603e (not speedy) and a surprising array of multimedia capabilities (including NTSC video I/O), and runs AIX up to 4.1.5, or 4.2.something if one feels lucky. I'd appreciate any leads anybody could pass on. ok r.

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OT - Rantish, but a warning

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Way off topic here, and rantish to boot, but just to give y'all a heads up - Don't install Internet Explorer 5. Bunches of reasons, but my big one is this: If you are ill advised enough to uninstall explorer 4, you *can't* get 5 off your system. And at least when I tried it has destabilized my system to the point my desktop crashes about every 10 minutes. I'll be migrating to BeOS as soon as they mail my copy to me. *grumble* On the other hand, and considerably more on topic, the new hobbiest media for openVMS is supposedly going to be available on the 18th of this month from http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/media.html. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Australia: 8080A chips, eproms, dynamic rams, i/o chips, data books

by davhos＠magna.com.au

I have four 8080 computer systems to dispose of. They were used in a dedicated industrial application - not as a readily reprogrammable system. Some of the chips may however be of use to someone - preferably someone who can collect from Chatswood, Sydney Australia. The main chips are (I am only listing chips in sockets) 4 off 8080A about 200 dynamic memory chips. some are marked 4030, others 4060. they are also referred to as 2107B-4 in the documentation. about 25 eproms type 1702A about 12 off 8212 i/o port chips about 30 off chips marked SN74S412. I cannot find this in my old data book but from the circuit they appear to be doing the same job as 8212 Also available are Intel data catalogues from 1976 and 1977 and a Signetics Bipolar and Mos memory databook dated 1977 David

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Kermit-11 user manual

by davhos＠magna.com.au

Is anybody interested in a copy of a kermit-11 user manual dated 1985 I don't have the software just the manual. Kermit-11 is a file transfer program that runs under RT-11 and posibly other PDP11 systems such as RSTS, RSX, TSX David

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My "Fresh Meat" at Easter Forli' Hamfest (Re: Fresh Meat)

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 17:17 15/05/99 +1, Hans wrote: >> >I just picked up a Copmaq Portable PLUS (DM 35), a >> >Portable III (DM 40), >> >Is there any site with information on the Compaq Portabele III ? Yesterday and today I "lived" inside the pavillions of Forli' expocenter where every year take place the Easter Hamfest. I have also picked a Compaq Portable II at 26 Eu (abt.27 U$D) It's a 8086 luggable machine with CRT -> VERY HEAVY! I've also picked: -WISE WY 3216-40 (@ 15 EU no monitor)It's a 386 with the processor and the RAM mounted in two different ISA cards, linked thru a upper connector. The keyboard is the classical WY 160 grey terminal keyboard with mmj connector. The system has a nice LCD retro-illuminated display and a big Megnetic Peripherals MFM (noisy) disk that reached the edge of his days. -C=ommodore PC 20 III (@ only 13 EU, no monitor) mint conditions 3,5 fdd probably a 286. -Some printers (bought not as vintage machines) - HP 320, HP520 (both @ 57 EU) - 2x Epson FX850 @ 35 EU each (they were used by REUTERS somewhere) The man that sold me the Wyse has also a Mannesmann Tally 8 bit optical tape reader @62 EU. I saw a very similar device inside a frontpanel of a automatic plasma welding machine as a numeric controller. I have taken a picture with my digital camera and I will put it on a webpage someday (I just started a HTML/Frontpage course this week) The reader was new inside its carton box and the man told that he still have 15 available. Another couple of yummy think I've seen where a Sinclair ZX 81 and a TIMEX 1000 The bad new where the prices (please seat safetly): 150 EU the first :( and abt. 220 EU the second!!! :o >P.S.: and speaking of today, new members of my junk yard are: snip! >Olivetti CTV 250 Typewriter/Textprocessor (back in the 80s, Olivetti >had the most impressive design, not just grey boxes - I still would >love to get hands on one of these small BASIC able 'handheld' systems >as they where in unse in a lot of Cambio (Money Change) shops - top >notch design and a cute interior) BASIC "handeld"? can you explain more about that? you mean the P.O.S./BANCOMAT small units with thermal printer? In case you like that kind of Oilvetti design, it's possible to contact many wharehouse near Ivrea that stocks also new machines, E.G. the TE550 teletype machine that I've bought new @ 92 EU while 3 years ago it was sold to the National Postal Service @ abt. 2500 EU!! ;D Ciao Riccardo Romagnoli <chemif(a)mbox.queen.it> I-47100 Forl?

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Northstar Update

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I can repair the RAM 16 A3 but I don't have the switch settings and <jumper settings (J) to set it to start at 2000H. What are these? Is that a NS ram 16? I have a mod of the MDS-A3 (SD) controller to put Phantom/ on the bus. However the card has to respect it. The address hole needed for the controller is from E800 thru EFFFh. <Also, I have a RAM 16 A2 board that I can try. Are the switch settings <and the jumper settings on it the same as the A3 to start at location <2000H? Dont ahve them for that card. Never used any of the NS* ram cards. <Finally, will NSDOS run in 16K ram? I see no indication in the manuals <that it won't but it's a good question to ask anyway. NSdos runs fine in 8k! the dos is d00H (DD 3328) or a00(SD 2560) large and starts at 2000. Basic however does fit in 16k but barely. So happens I'm resurecting a NS*Horizon I got a few weeks back. Mine is however working just fine once I set up the serial for my standard setup and to match the Horizon I've had for 21 years. Allison

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FYI - Classic items at JDR

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: While looking at the new JDR Microdevices catalog, a few items jumped out: 1. S100 bus connectors #100P-WW $1.99 2. AppleBus connectors #50P-WW $2.99 3. CBM/KIM/AIM #44P-WW $0.99 4. Intel 8272 FDC $0.99 5. CTS256AL2 (text-to-speech) $4.99 6. 1793 FDC $7.99 7. TMS99532 (modem chip) $3.99 [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW7 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/ <---------------------------- reply separator

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Dayton Hamvention report

by donm＠cts.com

On Sun, 16 May 1999, Ethan Dicks wrote: ________O/_______ O\ > P.S. - where's a good place to get a Kaypro boot disk? I have a licensed > copy of teledisk so I should be able to make them from bits, yes? E-mail me the EPROM number(s) that are on a paper label on the chip and I can send a TeleDisk image to you. - don donm(a)cts.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology. Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) Z-Node 9 - 619-454-8412 *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj/ visit the "Unofficial" CP/M Web site at http://www.devili.iki.fi/cpm/ with Mirror at http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm/

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Mop booting (8) 3100'S ?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<the /usr subtree. The remaining files under "/" take up around 10-12Megs, <then you'll also need separate swap files which adds another X Megs per <machine. You can probably get by with more of the setup being shared, but Has anyone considered the hack that is done under VMS for small disk impared systems? IE: net or local boot, local swap everything else from the net host. Then the seap drive can be a small 20-40mb drive and the swapping is faster if local even with PIO. that would yeild a fairly fast system that wouldn't beat teh disks to death on the host. Allison

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LCDs (Re: PDP-8/e frontpanel pictures)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > I'm very familiar with them; I wrote the LCDProc driver for the B.G.Micro > > "PIC-an-LCD" serial<->LCD adapter chip. > > I did some further research on them and these Optrex LCDs have an LED > backlight, are 160 x 128 can be run in graphics mode... Fancy. I would have loved to have seen graphical LCDs. I've only had the text-mode (with programmable characters) to play with. Have you been to the LCDProc site? (lcdproc.omnipotent.net) It's the one that I'm most familiar with, and is very well along the development chain. > I'm pretty excited. I went back on Saturday and they were all gone (doh!) > So I've only go the two. Bummer. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 16, 16:22, Tony Duell wrote: > [BBC power supplies] > I'd love to see circuits for all the versions, or at least circuit > descriptions. On the other hand, Acorn PSU schematics are generally hard > to find for some odd reason. I never saw schematics for any of the black ones; I've got the diagram for the Astec as you know. I once did have a note of what the chopper was -- or rather, I had a part number that worked. I worked for Computer Field Maintenance for a while, and we used to repair them (though they didn't actually fail very often. They seem to be pretty robust). BSR made a copy under license, but the BSR ones don't seem to be so good -- not so well regulated, for a start, so not so tolerant of overloads. > All my Beebs have the traditional Astec SMPSUs. BTW, does anyone know > what the chopper transistor is in these units? It's the same in virtually > all Astec supplies - a TO3 can on a small PCB/heatsink mounted at right > angles to the main board. There is never a number on it. All I can remember is that it's NPN, I think. I'll dig through some old files if I can figure out a way to read the old winchester backups, and see... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Altair, pfeh! I own a Univac.

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Well, okay, parts of one. Big parts. For now it is in storage. Guess I have to get a basement next. I'm not even sure exactly what I've got. It is from a Univac 9200. Looks like a line printer and control console in one very big box, about the size of desk, but maybe twice as tall. Switches & lights, and discrete transistors. It was the box that had the "Univac 9200" label on it, so maybe (hopefully) it is the CPU. When I move it >from its current temporary home to a more permanent one, I'll get pix & details. There is another box that I didn't get, but may still end up with after its winner picks a few bits out of it. Seems _he_ actually has customers still running these things, and needs a few specific parts. So even if I get it, it won't be complete. But I can't complain, with those parts going to keep another Univac running. Also got a card punch, which I got home by partially disassembling it, to make it fit in my car. When I opened it up, I found a three ring binder labelled "Univac Servicing Documents" - schematics, mech drawings, all sorts of good stuff! So, anybody know anything about 9200's? A web search didn't turn up much. Introduced in June 1967, 8K of memory, that's about it. Bill. (Man, this is awesome!)

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PDP-8/e frontpanel pictures

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Hi Ethan, > > Good luck, I've scoured the Flea Market twice (once on Friday and once > today) and there just ain't any DEC stuff here. Not much at all. I spotted a few uVAX 2000's and a uVAX 3100. > I did find a PDP-8 core stack but it was in a display case at my friends > office where we got some free tickets (sigh.) Ugh. > I did pick up some Nifty LCDs though for $7 that I'm going to use to create > a "disk bay console" ala the Linux stuff. I'm very familiar with them; I wrote the LCDProc driver for the B.G.Micro "PIC-an-LCD" serial<->LCD adapter chip. From the white tent in the back corner of the flea market, I got a box of 20x2 florescent displays for $20 (different protocol, same concept as the LCDs). If you want to write offline about interfacing LCDs, let me know. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Dayton Hamvention report

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

As has already been mentioned, Dayton is _not_ the place to go to look for used DEC parts. I only spotted a couple of table-top uVAXen. I did get a Kaypro 2 for $25 (and the kid dragged to my car!), a $2 VIC-20 with $1 C2N and some modern stuff. I didn't spend anywhere near as much as I usually do. Not all that many things lept out at me. There were scads of $5 and $10 Pentium boards, crates of ISA NICs and lots of stuff that just isn't all that interesting. I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one >from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the picture said: Wanted: PDP8's Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( P.S. - where's a good place to get a Kaypro boot disk? I have a licensed copy of teledisk so I should be able to make them from bits, yes? _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 15, 19:10, Tony Duell wrote: > I did have the circuits in front of me. I always find it better to argue > from possible facts :-).... But that takes all the fun (risk) out of it :-) > > There were no less than three versions of the black linear PSU. None of > > them were satisfactory, but only one, the "adapter and converter", earned > > the obvious nickname. > > I think I've only seen one of them. Which is the particularly bad one? It has a label identifying it as "Adapter/Eliminator" or similar. They're *very* rare, partly because Acorn tried to recall them, and partly because not many were sent out before the problem was spotted. There's one fairly common one, which *isn't* particularly prone to go "phut", and that's probably what you have. The only thing wrong with that one is that it doesn't have much spare capacity, and therefore has no connector for a disk (or w.h.y.). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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WANTED: VMS Orange Wall

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<programming job was to upgrade an 11/780 from 2.4 to 3.0. It took most of <weekend, not helped by the fact that you had to install different versions <of the microcode at various points during the upgrade, and it took 30+ Yes, there were a lot of people that suggested the next upgrades should be easier. <minutes to discover that you'd got the wrong one in. The 8" floppy on an <11/78x was not renowned for speed. ISTR that the interface was one bit wide The LSI-11 to vax hardware was wider I think 16bits bt the microcode was some 60-80 bits so it took a long tome to build a few words of uCode. Allison

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WANTED: VMS Orange Wall

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I want to do assembly programming and other things on my MVaxII that <are generally not covered in the Manager's manual etc. It just seems <that every now and then someone has an orange wall that needs a home. Or keep a look for the gray wall (later version of similar material). If memory serves orange was V4.XX (maybe V3 too) and gray was V5.XX. And yes they are s significant resource. About six months back I lucked into a copy of the gray wall (30 volumes!). Would never part with it and it's my first set even though Microvaxen were something I was involved with since '85! Allison

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sun mice

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote: > Sun mice are Mouse Systems mice, of course. I have one Model M2 mouse, > which is black, and thus is most likely a mouse for a Sun 2 computer. > I have many Model 3 and 4 mice, which have the brass pins on the side of > the connector. The one sun 3/50 keyboard I have is using a Model 3 > with pins, so i'm assuming these are all for use on type 3 keyboards? > The strange thing is, I have several Model M3 mice that dont have those > brass pins on the connector. So i'm wondering if these are also usable > on older sun 2 computers, or if sun is just playing mind games with me.. Sun is playing mind games with you. You will know that you've reached the bone-us level when you have in front of you a type 3 mouse with the pins in its RJ-11 plug and a type 3 keyboard with a standard RJ-11 jack that won't accept the pins. I have a type 2 mouse here. It's black with gray buttons, and has a Sun sticker on top with the purple, on-its-corner Sun logo and black "sun" text. On bottom there's a Mouse Systems label with the following dot-matrix imprint: MSC 900783-002/01 SN MSC BQ00226 MADE IN USA Type 2: keyboard and mouse both have RJ-11 plugs The 2/120 can have RJ-11 jacks for this combination; both devices get plugged separately into the CPU cabinet (but I think the connectors go to the bwtwo or other framebuffer). Type 3: keyboard has RJ-11 jack for mouse and DA15 plug to system; mouse daisy-chains through keyboard The 2/50, 3/50, 3/60, and I guess most Sun 3s excepting the 3/80 use this DA15 connector. The 2/50 came with an adaptor box that plugged into the DA15 socket on the back of the CPU and brought out two RJ-11 jacks. The adaptor box works on Sun 3s too. Type 4: keyboard has mini-DIN plug and socket(s) for mouse; mouse daisy-chains through keyboard There's also an adaptor box that plugs into the DA15 socket that brings out a mini-DIN socket so you can use a Type 4 keyboard and mouse on your Sun 3 -- I guess Sun ran out of Type 3 keyboards before the service life ended or something. Or maybe people with Sun 3s just wanted to use Type 4 keyboards? (Ewww, but then I don't like the Type 4 keyboard.) Somewhere along the way (I think midstream Type 4, or maybe when the Type 5 keyboard was introduced?) the mice changed to a high-resolution flavor with a denser grid on the optical mouse pad. Predictably, old and new mice and pads don't work with each other. -Frank McConnell

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IBM 286 Help Request

by snegri＠azstarnet.com

A friend gave me his old IBM 286 which I'd like to revive for my wife's use. When I power on, a red light indicates the machine is looking at the 5.25 floppy drive, then I hear two beeps, and nothing at all appears on the screen. I'm thinking that maybe the BIOS somehow got trashed but I don't have a clue what to do about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the monitor. I think the computer just doesn't seem to know it has a hard drive and monitor connected. Any advice would be sincerely appreciated. I tried removing and reseating all the cards because that's sometimes solved problems when I had my own 286, but it didn't do any good with this machine. Thanks in advance. Sam -- ___________________________________________ Sam Negri P.O. Box 85132 Tucson, Arizona 85754-5132 For a taste of Arizona, visit my home page: http://www.azstarnet.com/~snegri/ -- ___________________________________________ Sam Negri P.O. Box 85132 Tucson, Arizona 85754-5132 For a taste of Arizona, visit my home page: http://www.azstarnet.com/~snegri/

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Tiara Arcnet LANCard AT??

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Does anyone have the jumper settings for the Tiara Arcnet LANCard AT? I recently got one of these cards, and all of the jumpers were missing. Does anyone know where to get drivers for this card? I've tried to find Tiara's website, but I can't find one anywhere. The only one that may have been it (www.tiaratech.com) doesn't seem to have an index page. ThAnX, ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

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Size, weight of a PDP-11/83?

by gregorym＠cadvision.com

Hi all. Through a lovely bit of serendipity, I've just been offered a PDP-11/83 that's local to me. Before I accept, can anyone help me with the following questions: How big is this classic likely to be? Most PDPs I've seen were refridgerator sized, with washing machine sized disk drives, tape drives, etc. Is that about what I can expect, or is the 11/83 one of the later, smaller 11s? How heavy might it be? Would it be a lifting job for 2? 4? 8? Does it require special power? My home isn't wired for anything beyond household current. Any help would be much appreciated. I'd love to save this machine, but there are limits to my space/money/housemate's patience. Alternatively, if anyone else is in or around Calgary, AB, and would be interested in this machine, e-mail me off list. If I decide not to take it, I can put you in touch with the owner. Thanks in advance. Mark Gregory At 09:15 PM 5/14/99 -0400, you wrote: > > >>Looks like Megan's the victim of an eBay gender-bending :-) > >Seems so... > >>BTW, what exactly is a "mamoth" housing, anyway?? > >I think it is due to the fact that the people posting are used >to PCs and more contemporary machines, and so a pdp-11 in an >H960 is MAMOTH to them... > >:-) > > Megan Gentry > Former RT-11 Developer > >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ >| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | >| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | >| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | >| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | >| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | >| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ > >

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Cleaning My Room

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Dang! I wish I liven in WI. :) -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1> -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: FW: Cleaning My Room > Attention, would-be rescuers in or near Milwaukee, WI! There's a >graduating student (Josh Hulbert) looking to get rid of a VAXen and PDP-11 >(unknown model) as freebies. > > If interested, contact him directly. Best of luck! > >-=-=- <break> -=-=- > >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:26:47 -0600 (CST) >From: Joshua Hulbert <hulbertj(a)msoe.edu> >To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org >Subject: Cleaning My Room >Sender: port-vax-owner(a)netbsd.org >Delivered-To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org > >Hello All, > >I will be graduating at the end of this quarter and moving several hundred >miles away from my dorm, so I need to minimize the amount of stuff I take >with me. I have the following VAX-related equipment, free for the taking: > >VS2000, with VR-160-DA, LK201, and puck-mouse. I have the 3-meter long >cable for this one. It has an RD-54, and a RAM expansion to 20MB IIRC. I >know it boots and runs NetBSD just fine, but there is nothing on the RD54. > >PDP-11: I know next to nothing about this thing. I picked it up for $10 >at American Science and Surplus. From what I could gather, it may have >been a terminal server or something. It doesn't have enough RAM to load >an OS, but it has some funky ROM card. If anyone is interested, I can >send the M-numbers on the cards in the cage. > >Heres the catch: You have to come get it, as shipping would exceed the >value of these boxes. I live in downtown Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA). >Again, if anyone is interested, I can send part numbers on all the parts. > >Joshua Hulbert >Senior Electrical Engineer >Milwaukee School of Engineering > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies >http://www.bluefeathertech.com >Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com >SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905) >"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own >human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..." >

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Size, weight of a PDP-11/83?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<How big is this classic likely to be? Typically one rack or possible a BA23 pedestal may be a BA123 end table. <Most PDPs I've seen were refridgerator sized, with washing machine <sized disk drives, tape drives,etc. Is that about what I can expect, < or is the 11/83 one of the later, smaller 11s? Smaller though It could be in a single rack with a big drive or have big drives in seperate racks. The cpu card is however a single board about 10.5x9 inches. (It's mid->late80s design) <How heavy might it be? Would it be a lifting job for 2? 4? 8? If in H960 (31dx21Wx*h * can be 30,40,50,60 inches typically 40) rack two as it can easily weigh 200-400 pounds depending on what in the rack with it. all of the weight is the rack and peripherals. If ba23 (30x24x9 inches, pedestal) about 90 pounds, ba123 (28x26x13 inches, end table) 110pounds. <Does it require special power? My home isn't wired for anything beyond <household current. Not unless it's set up with external RA8x drives. The basic system used MFM 5.25 drives and was not a power hog. My 11/73 and with Rx02 and and RL02 is very light on power(2x->3x a PC) and it's of similar scale. An excellent hobbiest machine of the small iron class. <Any help would be much appreciated. I'd love to save this machine, but <there are limits to my space/money/housemate's patience. Grab it! if too big you can pass it on. The 11/83 was a really good machine using the Qbus backplane and generally small in size. It likely most Qbus PDP-11s can be expanded to really immense systems but in the ear it was sold it was most likely a physically small machine. Of the microprocessor version of the PDP-11 (11/03, 11/23, 11/53, 11/73, 11/83 and the 11/93) it's one of the faster ones and a good catch. (hint {11/05, 11/10, 11/20, 11/3x, 11/4x, 11/60 11/70 11/84} it's a big 11 with unibus and (11/03, 11/23, 11/53, 11/73, 11/83. 11/93) it's a micro based 11 with Qbus and generally smaller. It can run RT-11, RSTS, RSX-11 and most of the *nix versions with 2.11 being a good fit. The PUPs list (pups(a)minnie.adfa.oz.au) can set you up with a license for all PDP-11 unix for 100$ and also has an archive. Allison

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Fwd: Decmate II Wanted

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Kindly reply to Gary, not to me: >------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wanted: Operational "Decmate II" system, manufactured by Digital > Equipment Corporation in the mid-1980's. I live in Seattle. > Please contact Gary Christenson: stlhdr(a)scn.org >-------------------------------------------------------------------

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OT, but Sort of an emergency...

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Does anyone have or know where to find a 2.5" to 2.5" hard drive adapter (lets you use a laptop drive in a desktop)? My laptop just died (vertical/horizontal lines on screen, and that's it), and I NEED to get a report off of the HD. ThAnX! ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

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DG NOVA 2 (3 of them) For sale.

by kstumpf＠unusual.on.ca

These Data General NOVA 2s are being sold AS IS. They are not in racks. They are the 10 slot version. They are in very good external condition. The DG name plate has been removed and replaced with an OEM's (STS - Systems Technologies Services), otherwise everything is DG original. Each has the following 3 boards: * CPU * Basic I/O * 16K core memory These computers run from 110VAC and come with a regular domestic, 3-prong electrical plug and cord. No documentation. US$175 each plus shipping. Depending on where you live and considering the dimensions and weight of each NOVA, shipping will be between US$60 to 100. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Kevin Stumpf * Unusual systems * www.unusual.on.ca +1.519.744.2900 * EST/EDT GMT - 5 Collector - Commercial Mainframes & Minicomputers from the 50s, 60s, & 70s and control panels and consoles. Author & Publisher - A Guide to Collecting Computers & Computer Collectibles * ISBN 0-9684244-0-6 .

27 years, 2 months

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IBM PC 5150 with no drives?

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Wasn't a 5 or 10 MB FH HD available for the PC? -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1> -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 7:11 AM Subject: Re: IBM PC 5150 with no drives? >No, The PC and XT both came with FH drives. The XT also came with a FH hard >drive. > > Joe > >At 08:35 AM 3/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Was the 5150 the only one delivered with full-height drives? I've seen >>both on the 5160, but don't know which is original. >> >>On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Lawrence Walker wrote: >> >>> On 14 Mar 99 at 23:19, Merle K. Peirce wrote: >>> >>> > There wasa also a 5162 PC. We've got a couple of them. Does anyone >know >>> > how they were set up? full height or half height floppies? Any hard >drives? >>> > >>> > On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Tony Duell wrote: >>> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >My understanding is that some of the very first 5150s did ship >with no >>> > > > >>> > > > I have heard people talk about a 5150 a few times, where are some >good pics >>> > > > and specs so I can appear less dumb in the future? >>> > > >>> > > It's the original (1981-ish) IBM Personal Computer. The other common >(for >>> > > this group) numbers are : >>> > > >>> > > 5150 PC >>> > > 5151 MDA monitor >>> > > 5152 Graphics printer >>> > > 5153 CGA monitor >>> > > 5154 EGA monitor >>> > > 5155 Portable PC (sewing machine style case) >>> > > >>> > > 5160 PC/XT >>> > > 5161 Expansion Chassis >>> > > >>> > > 5170 PC/AT >>> > > >>> > > 5140 PC convertable (laptop) ? >>> > > >>> > > Now why do I remeber the above? >>> > > >>> > > -tony >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> That one set me searching my books and files. >>> It's an XT 286 Scott Mueller's book has full system architecture specs. >>> >>> 80286 cpu at 6mhz w/0 wait states >>> 640k mem >>> 1.2M 1/2 ht fdd and 20m hdd came standard but it will >>> support an additional 1/2 ht. Either 5 1/4, or 3 1/2 >>> 720/1440. >>> Damn ! Another to add to my "stuff" >>> >>> To Tony's list could also be added >>> 3270 PC an XT with 3270 connectivity >>> 5279 ? it's monitor (have one but it's buried) >>> >>> XT 370 giving connectivity to and emulation of the S/370 >>> >>> AT 3270 like the XT model but based on an AT >>> >>> 5144 PC Convertable mono monitor >>> 5145 PC Convertable colour monitor >>> >>> And then at the height of his power the Big Blue God created >>> the mighty PS/2 8580, MCA , and VGA >>> >>> ciao larry >>> lwalker(a)interlog.com >>> >> >>M. K. Peirce >>Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc. >>215 Shady Lea Road, >>North Kingstown, RI 02852 >> >>"Casta est qui nemo rogavit." >> >> - Ovid >> >> > >

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PDP-8/e frontpanel pictures

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Hi Ethan, Good luck, I've scoured the Flea Market twice (once on Friday and once today) and there just ain't any DEC stuff here. One guy had a box of Q-bus boards with a uVAX-II CPU plus some 8MB memory boards. If I had need of them they might have been a deal at $10/each. And the guts of an 11/34a. Neither looked like it has been treated well. I did find a PDP-8 core stack but it was in a display case at my friends office where we got some free tickets (sigh.) I did pick up some Nifty LCDs though for $7 that I'm going to use to create a "disk bay console" ala the Linux stuff. --Chuck

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IBM PCs

by mbg＠world.std.com

About a week or so ago, I asked about IBM PCs... I had received a few when we saved the decsystem-10s (they had been used as consoles). I wasn't sure what they were (and hadn't really looked at their model numbers) and asked how I might identify IBM PCs... I got lots of good info... and today (while cleaning the museum, er, my apartment) I put them together and powered them up. They both work... One is a 5160, one is a 5150. The 5160 has what I think is a 10Mbyte hard drive and a full height 5.25" floppy. The 5150 has again a 10Mbyte hard drive and a half height 5.25" floppy. Are the floppies what account for the difference betweeen the 5160 and the 5150, or is there something else? Otherwise the monitors, keyboards and units work fine... I think I may put one up on ebay... L@@K!! RARE!!! :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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sun mice

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Is there a sure-fire way to determine if a sun mouse is a type 2 versis type 3? It looks like the mice for type 3 have little side-pins on the connector, so is it reasonable to assume that mice without this feature are for sun-2 series computers? I figured i'd go through the box of old sun mice at work, since they are all so old as to predate any hardware we still have in operation. Looks like there are quite a few sun3 mice, possibly a few sun 2. -Lawrence LeMay

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HP-HIL mice (and some questions)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Hi! does anyone have any HP-HIL mice? I recently got a keyboard for my Vectra RS/25c, but now I need a mouse for it. Anyone know what drivers I can use for it? Also - are there any drivers for the [HP-HIL] keyboard? There's some keys on it that don't appear to do anything (such as "reset" and "menu"). There's also some blank (programmable?) keys. When I boot, it says "keyboard connector not functioning" I'm assuming this is the 5-pin DIN AT connector, but when I hook a keyboard up to it, it won't function correctly (F-keys and number pad won't work). The HP-HIL keyboard works fine, but I get the error. ThAnX, ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

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GRiDCASE 1520 back together

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

The GRiDCASE 1520 is back together. I think it was easier to reassemble than to disassemble. Condition: exactly the same as when I started, but with a little less black paint (from where I used a screwdriver to try to pry the case apart). I even left the battery in there. Hard drive's still not spinning up, clock is still not set. Oh, and the Compass still has a crazy clock, too. -- Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/

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PC/36 et al.

by a2k＠one.net

Hello, I have the following for 1.2*shipping: IBM PC/36 5364 miniframe Amiga 500 in pieces, non-working Kevin Stewart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After sifting through the overwritten remaining blocks of Luke's home directory, Luke and PDP-1 sped away from /u/lars, across the surface of the Winchester riding Luke's flying read/write head. PDP-1 had Luke stop at the edge of the cylinder overlooking /usr/spool/uucp. "Unix-to-Unix Copy Program;" said PDP-1. "You will never find a more wretched hive of bugs and flamers. We must be cautious." -- DECWARS ____________________________________________________________________ | Kevin Stewart | "I am a secret | | KC8BLL ----------| Wrapped in a mystery -Milford High School | | a2k(a)one.net | Wrapped in an enigma Drama Tech Dept. | |jlennon(a)nether.net| And drizzled in some tasty chocolate stuff.| --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Compass clock?

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

Hi, When I was using the GRiD Compass yesterday, I noticed that the system clock was frozen at 17-Nov-1985, 9:01 p.m. I tried setting it for 14-May-1999, 9:46 a.m. I thought it would b frozen again at that time, but when I powered the beast up again to make this call I was surprised to see that the clock had advanced to 9:56 a.m.! :) And instead of the 15th, it says it is the 25th! Is this an early Y2K problem? :) Is there an evil battery inside, about to leak all over my precious bubble memory modules? Oh, and BTW, how much bubble memory am I supposed to have? Currently it has "334 in use, 52 free". That's 386 units. It says "Usage (in 1000s of characters)" beneath the system memory report (I can look at these things from inside GRiDVT100, luckily) but I'm not sure if it applies to bubble memory as well as normal system memory. After all, the bubble memory is where the filesystem lives, which is a bit different. My system mem is currently "System: 153 Application: 51 Data: 18 Free: 40". That's 262,000, which is about 256 when divided by 1024. Is GRiD-OS eating most of my memory? What a hog! ;) I found the little blurb in Popular Science, August 1982, p.42, and it says that the machine comes with 256K each of bubble and normal memory. And for $8000. Was there an expensive option to get more bubble memory? Or is that what differentiates the 1100 from the 1101? Oh yeah, where is the OS stored? And applications like GRiDWrite and GRiDVT100? The VT100 emulator seems to load slowly enough, which implies that it's in bubble. So, like, if I reformat my bubble memory, I'm toast, right? I would very much like to have some sort of backup of everything in bubble memory. I don't seem to have XMODEM or any other transfer protocols on this thing. Argh. -- Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/

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Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 15, 0:45, Tony Duell wrote: > To get back to the video ULA, it contains (AFAIK) no DACs, because the > Beeb essentially worked with 3 TTL level signals for the video output > (that were encoded outside the ULA for composite PAL). Said ULA contains > just about all the video data path logic between the RAM data bus and the > RGB outputs (in other words the palette, pixel mux/shift register, > bits/pixel control logic, etc). That's most of the video data path. The > other part of the display system - the address generation - is provided > by the 6845. Yes, you're right there, of course. I must remember to engage brain before putting keyboard in gear ;-) Especially when short of sleep. I've worked on literally hundreds if not thousands of the things, so I should have remembered a bit better! > I know that darn linear PSU. It had separate 7805s for the 3 outputs that > fed the main board.... There were no less than three versions of the black linear PSU. None of them were satisfactory, but only one, the "adapter and converter", earned the obvious nickname. > All the docs I've seen imply that any device connected to the tube or the > 1MHz bus shouldn't draw significant power from the 5V line on those > ports. Connecting to the 'disk drive power connector' on the PSU can was > OK, of course. But most (all?) external devices had their own PSUs. If you draw too much from one connector, on Issue 3 or earlier PCBs, you can end up with a significant voltage drop. It's OK on later ones. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

27 years, 2 months

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Semi-OT: MacOS 8.5-8.6 and Sherlock

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

This is mainly off topic, but deals with some interesting ways to find info on the Internet. Plus I've got some cool classic computer related links. After sitting at MacOS 8.1 on my PowerMac for around a year, thanks to 8.5 causeing some problems for me when I tried to upgrade when it came out (these problems haven't been an issue since December), I went ahead and went straight to MacOS 8.6 last night. I've been hearing about this great new search tool that was introduced in MacOS 8.5 and has been updated in 8.6. Last night briefly I gave it a try and was impressed, so this morning while working on my morning pot of coffee, I've been playing with it. I used PDP-11/44 as the seed, and have dug up some really cool classic computer related stuff. If you get a chance to try it out, I'd recommend running a few searches on computers that you're interested in. Here are a couple interesting links. http://www.tec.puv.fi/~s99137/index1.html An interesting page of old computers, including a PDP-11/44. This page led me to the next link. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/retro/ is "The Retrocomputing Museum", at first I thought it was one of the listmembers pages, and then I found out it's maintained by Eric S. Raymond (yes, of Open Source fame), and someone else. http://www.vaxarchive.org/compmus/kees/garage.html http://www.vaxarchive.org/hw/index.html Nice page of links about VAX Hardware http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ Akos Varga has been busy it looks like! http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ka630.html Didn't someone recently want info on the KA630 this page looks worth a look! Or for the KA650 http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ka650.html OK, I'm done wasting everyones time, please forgive my enthusiasm for something new and cool from Apple that is a cool way to find Classic Computer stuff. Oh, and yes, I realize there is probably some web site out there that will give you simular capabilities. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

27 years, 2 months

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Upcoming Haul: DEC Gear and Documentation

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi Gang: I learned recently of a number of pdp-11s and Vaxen going surplus in the Vancouver area. Looks like various LSI 11s, spare parts, boards, docs. Peripherals include 9 track and (likely) DAT tape, RD53 and RD54 drives, some SMD drives. Vaxes are of the Microvax III type. Full set of VMS docs, version 4.x. Also an optical disk drive, unknown make/model, WORM type, about 18" platters. A total of about 4-5 systems. More info will be posted as I get it. Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

27 years, 2 months

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Mac II stuff needed/wanted

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I'm not sure if this in On-topic or Off- topic. What year was the Mac II introduced? Anyway - Does anyone have, or know where I can get, for a fairly low price a MIDI card for a Mac II? I'm also looking for a network card for a Mac II. ThAnX, -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

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Subscription

by Ferrousp＠aol.com

Good morning. I received this address from Brian Mahoney and since I collect old computers, he says I should be on your mailing list. I am always in desperate need of restoration information. Can you please tell me how to subscribe? Thank you, Tim Knight

27 years, 2 months

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Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 15, 0:47, Tony Duell wrote: > I wasn't really moaning about the AUG - it's an excellent manual (and you > get mine over my deaad body ;-)). It's just that most BBC hackers had > that manual and not much else, so that stuff that wasn't covered in that > book tends to be thought of as 'undocumented'. I've still got mine, thanks! It's a pity some dealers were not inclined to be more forthcoming, because Acorn did make a lot of documentation available, and would often provide it to users who wrote in; but dealers were always able to get it for customers, and even had a system (SID) to obtain lots of information, upgrade software, etc, via dial-up. They also had a large 2-volume set of 2" ring binders with diagrams, info, etc (that's where those System diagrams I gave you came from). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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