- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I have a chance to pick up an old Penril VCX-100. It is supposedly a >serial port multiplexor to connect a bunch of terminals to a host. > >I have a bunch of terminals and not enough ports on my host (Linux PC). >Can anyone tell me how to use this box? The VCX100 comes either with a V.35 interface or a RS-232 composite interface. On the other end of this interface is always another Penril box which does the demultiplexing. So, no, by itself this Penril box won't do you any good. What would do you the most good is a DECServer 700 or some other TCP/IP compatible terminal server. This you can throw onto your LAN quite easily. Older DECServers (like the 200 and 300) can be put into service as well if you want to go to the trouble of enabling MOP boot support and LAT in your Linux box. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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To those who want the VAXstation 3100

by arfonrg＠texas.net

Instead of me deciding who gets the station, I'll let you guys decide among yourselves. Whomever is wants it enough to make the call, it is at: MC Howard Electronics 9417 Neils Thompson Dr. Austin, Tx 78758 800-490-6896 ***ASK FOR RANDALL*** It: VAXstation 3100 16Mb RAM Randall said they'd ship it. They have a minimum order of $20.00 (for shipped orders) so, the price is $20.00. Go for it guys! ---------------------------------------- Tired of Micro$oft??? Move up to a REAL OS... ######__ __ ____ __ __ _ __ # #####/ / / / / __ | / / / / | |/ /## ####/ / / / / / / / / / / / | /### ###/ /__ / / / / / / / /_/ / / |#### ##/____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_____/ /_/|_|#### # ###### ("LINUX" for those of you without fixed-width fonts) ---------------------------------------- Be a Slacker! http://www.slackware.com Slackware Mailing List: http://www.digitalslackers.net/linux/list.html

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Micro/Vax/Station 2000 question

by donm＠cts.com

I am a little frustrated and sure that I am missing something rather obvious. However, what must I do to assure that VMS (5.5) recognizes my RX33 floppy drive, DUA2, on bootup without having to run SYSGEN and Autoconfigure All each time. The machine tries to boot from it if it has a disk installed and then switches to the RD54 DUA0 to go on to boot. - don

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VAXstation 3100

by robert.edis＠creatcomp.com

What is the model number of the machine? This can be either something like /76 or in the form XX-XXX-XN etc. I doubt it can run a VGA monitor (15 pin). It should have VMS as the OS and may support DEC Windows on a DEC graphics monitor. Otherwise just need a VT type monitor or connect a PC to it via the serial port and use a terminal emulator such as WinQVT32 (share ware). If you don't want the machine. I'll have it! I want a VMS machine to play with at home. Through DECUS you can get a free VMS license plus free licenses for layered products and development tools such as DEC BASIC, C++, Fortran, Etc. You will have to pay about USD30 for the CD-ROMS though. Blue PowerHouse consultant Rhode Island, USA Disclaimer: The opinions and ideas expressed in this message are my own and have no relationship to my current employer, Initial Technical Staffing, its client CCI, or any of CCI's clients. -----Original Message----- From: Arfon Gryffydd [mailto:arfonrg@texas.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 3:21 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: VAXstation 3100 I can pick up a VAXstation 3100 (just the box, no monitor/keyboard/etc). Is this worth messing with? What's in it processor wise? Can I rig it to a VGA monitor? Should I let it pass? ---------------------------------------- Tired of Micro$oft??? Move up to a REAL OS... ######__ __ ____ __ __ _ __ # #####/ / / / / __ | / / / / | |/ /## ####/ / / / / / / / / / / / | /### ###/ /__ / / / / / / / /_/ / / |#### ##/____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_____/ /_/|_|#### # ###### ("LINUX" for those of you without fixed-width fonts) ---------------------------------------- Be a Slacker! http://www.slackware.com Slackware Mailing List: http://www.digitalslackers.net/linux/list.html

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Serial Multiplexor???

by arfonrg＠texas.net

I have a chance to pick up an old Penril VCX-100. It is supposedly a serial port multiplexor to connect a bunch of terminals to a host. I have a bunch of terminals and not enough ports on my host (Linux PC). Can anyone tell me how to use this box? ---------------------------------------- Tired of Micro$oft??? Move up to a REAL OS... ######__ __ ____ __ __ _ __ # #####/ / / / / __ | / / / / | |/ /## ####/ / / / / / / / / / / / | /### ###/ /__ / / / / / / / /_/ / / |#### ##/____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_____/ /_/|_|#### # ###### ("LINUX" for those of you without fixed-width fonts) ---------------------------------------- Be a Slacker! http://www.slackware.com Slackware Mailing List: http://www.digitalslackers.net/linux/list.html

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RL02s Working, need Driver info

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Well... in my attempts to get RL02 drives integreated into my 11/44 system, I have discovered that I have mounted two bad drives (out of a possible 9) in the damn rack. Yesiree.. just the Way it Goes. I rolled in two of the Drives that Dave Jenner so graciously gave me, and lo! they work like the Book says they should. They test good, they load, they come into ready, and the fault light stays mercifully dark. Now: naturally the required drivers for DL devices are not resident when RSTS is booted. Since I am lacking any decent RSTS documentation, and since the 'help' utility is not that much help in this instance, I was wondering if anyone reading the List might be able to help me with finding and loading the correct drivers for 'DL'. I could maybe do this under RT11, but RSTS... d'oh! I have RSTS V9.7 -08 RSTS97 (DB0). It looks like this: $ mount DL0: ^ mount: illegal device name $ (Same for allocate) I have not printed out the installation log, but it is present >from the last time the machine was sysgenned.. if that would be of any help. I will try and provide any more info from the system that might be required, but I confess I don't know exactly what to ask in this situation. Cheers and thanks for everyone's help so far.. Cheers John

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VAXstation CDROM questions (again)

by paul＠paul.dragontear.org

Hello, Here's my question: I have a VAXstation 3100, and i'm interested in upgrading VMS. Currently it runs VMS 5.4. Since the VAX doesn't have a cdrom, and i'm assuming the cost of a DEC CDROM is outrageous (i'm 15, give me a break.), I was wondering if there is a way to install >from a network CDROM drive. Could I setup my Linux box to share it's CDROM via NFS? Or is there perhaps any software that would allow this? Or am I insane? The questions.. Thanks in advance. :) -paul -- paul(a)paul.dragontear.org [a paradigm of a paramount failure]

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RQDX3

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Anybody need this? Picked up with a bunch of other junque. DOn't know if it works. Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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FW: Free DECNIS router

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Want a free high-capacity router? Contact this fellow directly. Vancouver, BC area. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:51:03 GMT, in vmsnet.decus you wrote: >>Message-ID: <3763C557.148F988(a)home.com> >>From: Gerry Pelletier <gpell(a)home.com> >>Reply-To: gpell(a)home.com >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) >>X-Accept-Language: en >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Newsgroups: vmsnet.decus >>Subject: Free DECNIS router >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Lines: 20 >>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:51:03 GMT >>NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.113.82.227 >>X-Complaints-To: abuse(a)home.net >>X-Trace: news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com 929285463 24.113.82.227 (Sun, 13 Jun 1999 07:51:03 PDT) >>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 07:51:03 PDT >>Organization: @Home Network Canada >>Path: news1.jps.net!news.pbi.net!206.190.128.10!newsfeed.yosemite.net!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.decus:3 >> >>Free: DEC network router, DECNIS 600 >> >>If you don't know what this is then it's not for you. It is a large, >>high capacity router designed for enterprise backbone network >>configurations. It will only work in an existing DEC (Compaq) >>network installation. >> >>Has the following interface cards: >> >>Qty Type Description >> 4 L601 Single-port Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 AUI >> 1 L602 Dual-port Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 Thinwire >> 1 F621 Single-port FDDI, SAS or DAS >> >>If you can make use of it, you can have it. Pick it up or arrange for >>delivery from Vancouver area. Contact gpell(a)home.com >> >>//Gerry >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

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Early BASIC "how-to" books

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 13, 19:05, Phil Guerney wrote: > Subject: Early BASIC "how-to" books > There must have been a thousand titles like "Learn BASIC for your ModelX > Home Computer". > > The earliest I have found is Copyright 1977 by Jerald Brown (DYMAX, CA) > called Instant Basic The earliest I have is "Illustrating BASIC" by Donald Alcock, also 1977. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Fw: It's going to be scrapped...

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

Another desperate homeless S/36. In the UC I think. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Saxby <saxby(a)vossnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware Date: Saturday, 12 June 1999 21:50 Subject: It's going to be scrapped... >I've got one IBM S/36 complete with 3 terminals that is going to be scrapped >next week unless someone wants to take it. I've posted this 3 times now for >the reason that I don't want to see this machine scrapped. Absoloutely no >one contacted me. > >If no one takes it, then I will scrap it as I have no choice. > >The same applies to two Amstrad 1512's with printer a 8256 with printer and >an 9512+ with printer and disks. >There is also a load of 286 and 386 Dell's and lots of old CGA/EGA monitors >that need to go as well > >Come on, somebody must take them, or they will all have to be scrapped. I >don't want to scrap them, but if you don't take them, then they will be. > >Let me know by next Friday if you want anything > >--- >Matthew > >

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Early BASIC "how-to" books

by guerney＠uq.net.au

There must have been a thousand titles like "Learn BASIC for your ModelX Home Computer". The earliest I have found is Copyright 1977 by Jerald Brown (DYMAX, CA) called Instant Basic and subtitled "Learn the new streamlined ALTAIR style BASIC used in personal computers and the similar DEC BASIC-PLUS". It is a thick letter paper sized softcover in a very "jazzed-up" style full of large print in mixed-up typefaces and clip-art. (dilithium Press, OR). I am sure there probably are earlier "for the masses" BASIC texts aimed at home microcomputer owners (which cuts out those books on VAX Basic etc) - how early do they go? Phil in Brisbane, Australia.

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Televideo TS-806/20

by edick＠idcomm.com

you wrote "I can pop it into my 286 and try to salvage the data." NO!!!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY MOVE IT TO AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT CANNOT BE ROACHED UP BY A PC OR OTHER MACHINE!!!!. Preferably a county (better yet, country, or, better still, planet) totally devoid of other computers. The floppy drive is a dsdd 48 tpi drive, quite standard, and, as the error messages suggest, the system loaded from the hard disk expects to find something on the FDD. All diskettes are not alike. Not even all boot diskettes are alike, but you should have enough on the HDD to create a boot diskette from what's there and live happily ever after. You might even be able to save the "network" OS, which it may have on it, though that's not necessarily what YOU will want to do. Still, if someone else wants it, you're better off with having it than not. What you have now works, though it's looking for something you probably haven't got. Bdos Err On A: Bad Sector doesn't mean anything except that it can't read what it thinks it ought to read on drive A, the floppy. if you hit <enter> a few times, it should give up. If you hit <CTL-C> it should terminate whatever it's doing and warm boot, though that might lead you back to the BDOS Error. I don't remember whether CP/M retries its submit files (like a DOS Autoexec.bat) on a warm boot. Try to figure out what it's looking for. There might be a file of the form *.sub, though that might be hidden, (look in user 15) which you can write to a floppy formatted (heaven knows what that procedure is called on this machine) right there on it's own drive so you'll have it. Perhaps you should get someone local to you to help you find the missing item and save it on a floppy. I can send you a boot diskette, but there's no guarantee that it will contain what your system is looking for because my system didn't have the same OS. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >My machine has one floppy, one HDD & no free bays. The floppy is a TEAC >FD-55B-01-U. The hard drive is a CD JOHNSON & ASSOCIATES LTD. The only >daughter board in it is the HDC board. There are around two empty small >dip sockets under the drive rack. I finally got it to boot after a few >power cycles. >On boot it displays: >System IPL from Hard disk in progress > >TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2 >60k CP/M Vers. 2.2 >Tandon TM-503 Winchester. > >Copyright 1985, Software 2000, Inc. (9/1541) >Testing 64K of memory...............no errors >A:OSMASTER.SYS loading from 915C to FFFF, size 6EA4 >TurboDOS 1.42, Copyright 1985, Software 2000, Inc. (9/1525) > >and I am left in TurboDOS. After a while, I started to get read errors. >And now on boot I get: >System IPL from Hard disk in progress > >TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2 >60k CP/M Vers. 2.2 >Tandon TM-503 Winchester. > >Bios Read Error on A: >Track = 0002, Sector = 00 >WDC status = 51H, WDC error = 01H > >Bdos Err On A: Bad Sector > >So, It seems like I'm going to need that boot disk after all. >Also, Do you know if this hard disk interface is MFM? If it is (as it >looks), I can pop it into my 286 and try to salvage the data. > > T.H.x. > Devon > > >At 08:45 PM 11/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>The computer has bays for two floppy and two hard disk drives. You do have >>to open it up to see them, but if you've seen the controller board, and if >>you've seen the dip switches, you must know whether or not you have the >>winchester drive(s). A -20 normally had a single 20MB drive, which, for >>those days, was pretty decent. Two of them - WOW! that was a BIG machine. >>If you haven't got hard disks in the box, or if they're disconnected, you >>should probably connect them up and try to see if they boot. That "IPL . . >>." message is what you get when it sees there's nothing in the Floppy Drive. >>Do you have a floppy drive? Let's figure out what's on this machine before >>we go off half-cocked. >> >>The boot disk is no big deal to create, though my '806's are both sitting >>outdoors, having had their HDD's cannibalized years ago. I can probably >>read the things with my AMPRO, which means I should be able to write them as >>well. >> >>I need to know whether your floppy drives are 48TPI or 96 TPI drives, since >>both were in common use. >> >>Next time you're inside the box, see what else is inside. Are there any >>daughterboards, or are there any empty sockets? >> >>Dick >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> >>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers >><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >>Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:28 PM >>Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >> >> >>>I hadn't known thats what they were for (winch)...If I ever get some, I bet >>>I can rig something up. After fiddling around some more (thanks for the >>>info, all), I've got it to work...kind of...When it starts it now says >>>"System IPL from Hard disk in progress". Then no more... I know the disk >>>booted before ...I could type garbage back when I was getting garbage >>>(about 4 times before it quit)... It would be great if you could send me a >>>boot disk... Televideo hasn't replied to my e-mails yet...I'll give them a >>>few more days.. >>> >>> T.H.x. >>> Devon >>> >>>At 06:24 PM 11/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>>>Well, I'm not sure I agree about the relative importance of cables with >>>>which to interface a hard disk. That's probably the one thing that makes >>a >>>>computer compute fast enough to be useful. >>>> >>>>First of all I'd try 9600 baud before anything else, since I believe >>that's >>>>the default. I don't remember what the board switches do, but I can hunt >>>>around for the manual and get back to you. I wouldn't use PCAW, as a >>>>terminal, myself. I haven't had good luck with it. How about >>Hyperterminal >>>>of Procomm. I've used both of those in connection with a PC and had >>better >>>>luck than with PCAW, though I've had good luck using PCAW for file >>>>transfers, etc. >>>> >>>>This box was ostensibly a file server and probably contains VERY important >>>>software, e.g. the MMMost (or whatever it was called) network OS, which >>>>isn't around any longer. This box is capable of serving as a single-user >>>>system, but if you still have the HDD, from which it should boot all by >>>>itself if it hasn't been roached up, you might want to preserve it. >>>> >>>>Well you're in luck . . . I got a phone interruption after which I thought >>>>of a place to look for the manual...Oddly enough, that's where it was. >>>> >>>>The manual says the "upper" four bits of the dip switch is used for baud >>>>rate settings. The lower four bits (5,6,7,8) are unused except for >>position >>>>8 which is reserved for diagnostics. Obviously, the one who wrote this >>>>manual was on drugs. A closed switch is a zero. >>>> >>>>The baud rates go from 19.2K down to 75, with ascending values from 0000 >>to >>>>1000, remembering that a 0 means CLOSED. Switch 1 is the lsb. >>>> >>>>I hope that helps you get it going! >>>> >>>>If you need a boot diskette, maybe I can help you there as well. >>>> >>>>Televideo, by the way, is still in business, so it's not inconceivable >>they >>>>might be able to help too, if you ask them. >>>> >>>>Dick >>> >> >> >

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FW: IBM System/36 available

by cfandt＠netsync.net

For those who are interested in IBM S36 gear here's a message thread copied >from the newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc. Owner is near Ashville, NC. Contact her directly of course. >From: lindabr(a)my-deja.com >Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc >Subject: Re: IBI System/36 Model 5362 Available >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:27:03 GMT -- snip rest of header -- >I'm located near Asheville, NC. Sorry to be so slow in answering-- >thought I had it taken care of, but alas they haven't come to get it. > >In article <37570010.D7D1FEDA(a)erols.com>, > Shaye Hollander <shayeh(a)erols.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Where are you located?? >> >> lindabr(a)my-deja.com wrote: >> >> > I'm an RPGII programmer and I have just lost my last customer. Is there >> > anyone out there interested in a Model 5362 System/36 processor, 3 each >> > 5291 terminal and a 5224 printer? Please let me know. I hate to just >> > take it to the dump. Thanks Linda T. Brown >> Sounds to me like a rescue of an up-and-running machine! Regards, Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association Check our redesigned website! URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

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Televideo TS-806/20

by edick＠idcomm.com

I'll try to fire up one of these babies and make you a boot diskette. Keep in mind, however, that my boot diskette may not have a BIOS compatible with your hard disk format on it, since mine is not an original TVI boot disk. I'll need an address, however, since you can't build a boot disk from binaries. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >Drive A, on this machine, is the hard drive. So is Drive B. Drive C is the >floppy (I had it running, before the HDD started to fail more and would no >longer boot). Can you send me a boot disk? > > T.H.x. > Devon > >At 05:16 PM 12/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>you wrote >> >>"I can pop it into my 286 and try to salvage the data." >> >>NO!!!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY MOVE IT TO AN ENVIRONMENT >>WHERE IT CANNOT BE ROACHED UP BY A PC OR OTHER MACHINE!!!!. Preferably a >>county (better yet, country, or, better still, planet) totally devoid of >>other computers. >> >>The floppy drive is a dsdd 48 tpi drive, quite standard, and, as the error >>messages suggest, the system loaded from the hard disk expects to find >>something on the FDD. All diskettes are not alike. Not even all boot >>diskettes are alike, but you should have enough on the HDD to create a boot >>diskette from what's there and live happily ever after. You might even be >>able to save the "network" OS, which it may have on it, though that's not >>necessarily what YOU will want to do. Still, if someone else wants it, >>you're better off with having it than not. >> >>What you have now works, though it's looking for something you probably >>haven't got. >> >>Bdos Err On A: Bad Sector doesn't mean anything except that it can't read >>what it thinks it ought to read on drive A, the floppy. >> >>if you hit <enter> a few times, it should give up. If you hit <CTL-C> it >>should terminate whatever it's doing and warm boot, though that might lead >>you back to the BDOS Error. I don't remember whether CP/M retries its >>submit files (like a DOS Autoexec.bat) on a warm boot. >> >>Try to figure out what it's looking for. There might be a file of the form >>*.sub, though that might be hidden, (look in user 15) which you can write >>to a floppy formatted (heaven knows what that procedure is called on this >>machine) right there on it's own drive so you'll have it. Perhaps you >>should get someone local to you to help you find the missing item and save >>it on a floppy. >> >>I can send you a boot diskette, but there's no guarantee that it will >>contain what your system is looking for because my system didn't have the >>same OS. >> >>Dick >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> >>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers >><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >>Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 1:32 PM >>Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >> >> >>>My machine has one floppy, one HDD & no free bays. The floppy is a TEAC >>>FD-55B-01-U. The hard drive is a CD JOHNSON & ASSOCIATES LTD. The only >>>daughter board in it is the HDC board. There are around two empty small >>>dip sockets under the drive rack. I finally got it to boot after a few >>>power cycles. >>>On boot it displays: >>>System IPL from Hard disk in progress >>> >>>TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2 >>>60k CP/M Vers. 2.2 >>>Tandon TM-503 Winchester. >>> >>>Copyright 1985, Software 2000, Inc. (9/1541) >>>Testing 64K of memory...............no errors >>>A:OSMASTER.SYS loading from 915C to FFFF, size 6EA4 >>>TurboDOS 1.42, Copyright 1985, Software 2000, Inc. (9/1525) >>> >>>and I am left in TurboDOS. After a while, I started to get read errors. >>>And now on boot I get: >>>System IPL from Hard disk in progress >>> >>>TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2 >>>60k CP/M Vers. 2.2 >>>Tandon TM-503 Winchester. >>> >>>Bios Read Error on A: >>>Track = 0002, Sector = 00 >>>WDC status = 51H, WDC error = 01H >>> >>>Bdos Err On A: Bad Sector >>> >>>So, It seems like I'm going to need that boot disk after all. >>>Also, Do you know if this hard disk interface is MFM? If it is (as it >>>looks), I can pop it into my 286 and try to salvage the data. >>> >>> T.H.x. >>> Devon >>> >>> >>>At 08:45 PM 11/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>>>The computer has bays for two floppy and two hard disk drives. You do >>have >>>>to open it up to see them, but if you've seen the controller board, and if >>>>you've seen the dip switches, you must know whether or not you have the >>>>winchester drive(s). A -20 normally had a single 20MB drive, which, for >>>>those days, was pretty decent. Two of them - WOW! that was a BIG >>machine. >>>>If you haven't got hard disks in the box, or if they're disconnected, you >>>>should probably connect them up and try to see if they boot. That "IPL . >>. >>>>." message is what you get when it sees there's nothing in the Floppy >>Drive. >>>>Do you have a floppy drive? Let's figure out what's on this machine >>before >>>>we go off half-cocked. >>>> >>>>The boot disk is no big deal to create, though my '806's are both sitting >>>>outdoors, having had their HDD's cannibalized years ago. I can probably >>>>read the things with my AMPRO, which means I should be able to write them >>as >>>>well. >>>> >>>>I need to know whether your floppy drives are 48TPI or 96 TPI drives, >>since >>>>both were in common use. >>>> >>>>Next time you're inside the box, see what else is inside. Are there any >>>>daughterboards, or are there any empty sockets? >>>> >>>>Dick >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> >>>>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers >>>><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >>>>Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:28 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >>>> >>>> >>>>>I hadn't known thats what they were for (winch)...If I ever get some, I >>bet >>>>>I can rig something up. After fiddling around some more (thanks for the >>>>>info, all), I've got it to work...kind of...When it starts it now says >>>>>"System IPL from Hard disk in progress". Then no more... I know the disk >>>>>booted before ...I could type garbage back when I was getting garbage >>>>>(about 4 times before it quit)... It would be great if you could send me >>a >>>>>boot disk... Televideo hasn't replied to my e-mails yet...I'll give them >>a >>>>>few more days.. >>>>> >>>>> T.H.x. >>>>> Devon >>>>> >>>>>At 06:24 PM 11/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>>>>>Well, I'm not sure I agree about the relative importance of cables with >>>>>>which to interface a hard disk. That's probably the one thing that >>makes >>>>a >>>>>>computer compute fast enough to be useful. >>>>>> >>>>>>First of all I'd try 9600 baud before anything else, since I believe >>>>that's >>>>>>the default. I don't remember what the board switches do, but I can >>hunt >>>>>>around for the manual and get back to you. I wouldn't use PCAW, as a >>>>>>terminal, myself. I haven't had good luck with it. How about >>>>Hyperterminal >>>>>>of Procomm. I've used both of those in connection with a PC and had >>>>better >>>>>>luck than with PCAW, though I've had good luck using PCAW for file >>>>>>transfers, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>This box was ostensibly a file server and probably contains VERY >>important >>>>>>software, e.g. the MMMost (or whatever it was called) network OS, which >>>>>>isn't around any longer. This box is capable of serving as a >>single-user >>>>>>system, but if you still have the HDD, from which it should boot all by >>>>>>itself if it hasn't been roached up, you might want to preserve it. >>>>>> >>>>>>Well you're in luck . . . I got a phone interruption after which I >>thought >>>>>>of a place to look for the manual...Oddly enough, that's where it was. >>>>>> >>>>>>The manual says the "upper" four bits of the dip switch is used for >>baud >>>>>>rate settings. The lower four bits (5,6,7,8) are unused except for >>>>position >>>>>>8 which is reserved for diagnostics. Obviously, the one who wrote this >>>>>>manual was on drugs. A closed switch is a zero. >>>>>> >>>>>>The baud rates go from 19.2K down to 75, with ascending values from 0000 >>>>to >>>>>>1000, remembering that a 0 means CLOSED. Switch 1 is the lsb. >>>>>> >>>>>>I hope that helps you get it going! >>>>>> >>>>>>If you need a boot diskette, maybe I can help you there as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>Televideo, by the way, is still in business, so it's not inconceivable >>>>they >>>>>>might be able to help too, if you ask them. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dick >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

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tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive

by edick＠idcomm.com

Actually they could all write MFM (double density). The problem was that some couldn't read what they had written because there was inadequate write precompensation and the waveform peaks were at the wrong time during read and their amplifiers weren't sensitive enough to catch them. In any case what the COULD and what the DID were often not the same. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 5:42 PM Subject: Re: tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive >> >> Does anyone here have the specifications for a Tandon 848-2 8" >> floppy drive? Mainly i'm interested in if it is DSDD, and if > >Easiest way to see how many sides it can do is to look at the number of >heads. If the thing on the 'top' side (away from the spindle) is a head >(i.e. it has wires going to it), it's double sided. > >Also look at the number of index sensors. Most (all?) double-sided drives >have 2 of them as the index hole is in different places on SS and DS 8" >disks. > >AFAIK, almost all 8" drives, other than possibly the _very_ early ones >can do double density. > >-tony >

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tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive

by edick＠idcomm.com

It's really quite simple. I looked at mine (not an easy trick, considering where they were) and saw that they were plugged into the same oiwer supply as my QUME or Shugart or whatever they were had been. They appear to have the same power huukups as the older drives, except that there's no AC power. Now, I can't swear to that, since it was dark in there, but I surely didn't see an AC cable to the slimline drives. I don't know whether this particular box has -5 or -12 to the drives, but I believe it's -5. That works in more cases than the -12, since only SOME drives have the onboard regulator for the negative supply. As usual, you can be pretty safe assuming the obvious. I doubt the manufacturers would have used the same supply connector if they hadn't intended one to use the same supply. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 3:48 PM Subject: Re: tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive ><Does anyone here have the specifications for a Tandon 848-2 8" ><floppy drive? Mainly i'm interested in if it is DSDD, and if ><so, then i would need to know some data about what type of power ><connector it uses. > >DS is easy, look for a top and bottom head. DD is easy as with rare >exception all can do DD. > >The power connector is a different matter. > >Allison >

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tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Does anyone here have the specifications for a Tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive? Mainly i'm interested in if it is DSDD, and if so, then i would need to know some data about what type of power connector it uses. -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

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tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Does anyone here have the specifications for a Tandon 848-2 8" <floppy drive? Mainly i'm interested in if it is DSDD, and if <so, then i would need to know some data about what type of power <connector it uses. DS is easy, look for a top and bottom head. DD is easy as with rare exception all can do DD. The power connector is a different matter. Allison

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tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive

by edick＠idcomm.com

I have a couple of these, but, unfortunately no data. In my case, however, they're in a system which, though it hasn't been turned on in five or six years, is presumably functional. I imagine that at a minimum I can provide you with information about power and jumpers for my CP/M application. These drives are DSDD, by the way, and step at 3 ms or, in some cases, faster, though my controllers won't go faster. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: tandon 848-2 8" floppy drive >Does anyone here have the specifications for a Tandon 848-2 8" >floppy drive? Mainly i'm interested in if it is DSDD, and if >so, then i would need to know some data about what type of power >connector it uses. > >-Lawrence LeMay > lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

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OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<It's been my experience that the ONLY way to ensure that the autoinstall <software of one of SMC's network boards works properly is to put it in a <system which does not have PLUG_N_PLAY capability and then ensure it's the Just installed one at work into a file/printserver (W95 and HP6000). Did it by the book and it went as no big deal. I did as usual remove the bad one delete it from the device profile first or W95 will get stupid. I have PnP system of the early genreation types most are P133 and P166 with loads of lagacy stuff around and generally they behave. when they don't I've found the manufacturers disk to be handy (Intel EPRO10/PnP especially) to sort out the occasional errant card pulled from the spares bin (used but known good). Allison

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Anyone collecting Harris Systems

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Out of curiousity does anyone have a Harris H-500 preserved in their collection? I was thinking about this today, I've not seen anything on any Harris Mini's. This was the first real computer that I used/worked on. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Televideo TS-806/20

by edick＠idcomm.com

The computer has bays for two floppy and two hard disk drives. You do have to open it up to see them, but if you've seen the controller board, and if you've seen the dip switches, you must know whether or not you have the winchester drive(s). A -20 normally had a single 20MB drive, which, for those days, was pretty decent. Two of them - WOW! that was a BIG machine. If you haven't got hard disks in the box, or if they're disconnected, you should probably connect them up and try to see if they boot. That "IPL . . ." message is what you get when it sees there's nothing in the Floppy Drive. Do you have a floppy drive? Let's figure out what's on this machine before we go off half-cocked. The boot disk is no big deal to create, though my '806's are both sitting outdoors, having had their HDD's cannibalized years ago. I can probably read the things with my AMPRO, which means I should be able to write them as well. I need to know whether your floppy drives are 48TPI or 96 TPI drives, since both were in common use. Next time you're inside the box, see what else is inside. Are there any daughterboards, or are there any empty sockets? Dick -----Original Message----- From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >I hadn't known thats what they were for (winch)...If I ever get some, I bet >I can rig something up. After fiddling around some more (thanks for the >info, all), I've got it to work...kind of...When it starts it now says >"System IPL from Hard disk in progress". Then no more... I know the disk >booted before ...I could type garbage back when I was getting garbage >(about 4 times before it quit)... It would be great if you could send me a >boot disk... Televideo hasn't replied to my e-mails yet...I'll give them a >few more days.. > > T.H.x. > Devon > >At 06:24 PM 11/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>Well, I'm not sure I agree about the relative importance of cables with >>which to interface a hard disk. That's probably the one thing that makes a >>computer compute fast enough to be useful. >> >>First of all I'd try 9600 baud before anything else, since I believe that's >>the default. I don't remember what the board switches do, but I can hunt >>around for the manual and get back to you. I wouldn't use PCAW, as a >>terminal, myself. I haven't had good luck with it. How about Hyperterminal >>of Procomm. I've used both of those in connection with a PC and had better >>luck than with PCAW, though I've had good luck using PCAW for file >>transfers, etc. >> >>This box was ostensibly a file server and probably contains VERY important >>software, e.g. the MMMost (or whatever it was called) network OS, which >>isn't around any longer. This box is capable of serving as a single-user >>system, but if you still have the HDD, from which it should boot all by >>itself if it hasn't been roached up, you might want to preserve it. >> >>Well you're in luck . . . I got a phone interruption after which I thought >>of a place to look for the manual...Oddly enough, that's where it was. >> >>The manual says the "upper" four bits of the dip switch is used for baud >>rate settings. The lower four bits (5,6,7,8) are unused except for position >>8 which is reserved for diagnostics. Obviously, the one who wrote this >>manual was on drugs. A closed switch is a zero. >> >>The baud rates go from 19.2K down to 75, with ascending values from 0000 to >>1000, remembering that a 0 means CLOSED. Switch 1 is the lsb. >> >>I hope that helps you get it going! >> >>If you need a boot diskette, maybe I can help you there as well. >> >>Televideo, by the way, is still in business, so it's not inconceivable they >>might be able to help too, if you ask them. >> >>Dick >

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OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers

by edick＠idcomm.com

It's been my experience that the ONLY way to ensure that the autoinstall software of one of SMC's network boards works properly is to put it in a system which does not have PLUG_N_PLAY capability and then ensure it's the only card other than the controller and video board. That will tell you right away whether it's jumpered/set-up the way you thought, and it will allow you to fix it provided you're not trying to program a conflict of either address space or interrupt. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: Re: OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers >On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Francois wrote: > >> I sometimes found cards that did not work and were impossible to configure >> though EZSTART or whatever the utility is, it would tell me that there was >> no NIC in the computer. In that case I always had to toss the card and try a >> new one. > >Darn, I was hopeing you were going to pass on some wisdom as to how to get >the card working again. I'm getting the same symptoms, so I guess its >time to toss the card and try a new one. > >Thanks for the help, All. > >Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out. > > Coming this October 2-3: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0! > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 05/25/99] >

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OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Damn, the only two ISA network cards I can find and can't get drivers for niether. What a pain in the arse. I've got a SIIG network card with the driver RETH.COM (ODI driver for Netware) but for the life of me can't figure out how to pass in the IO address and IRQ parameters. Siig's website makes no mention of their network cards oddly (rather stupidly) enough. I've got an SMC Ether EZ 10Mbps but can't find the proper Netware ODI driver for it on their stupid website. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out. Coming this October 2-3: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0! See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 05/25/99]

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OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Hi, Sellam. On Jun 11, 17:09, Sellam Ismail wrote: > Subject: OT request: need SIIG and SMC network drivers > > I've got an SMC Ether EZ 10Mbps but can't find the proper Netware > ODI driver for it on their stupid website. > > Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. I've got an SMC SuperDisk 2.1 disk (3.5" 1.44MB) EtherEZ driver disk that came with a card. It's dated 4/8/95. It would take ages to get there by post, but I can zip up the contents and put them on my website if you still need it... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

27 years, 1 month

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Anyone collecting Harris Systems

by go＠ao.com

I've got a source listing of some version "toward the end of its life" of the Vulcan kernel. Harris "wooed" me once (long ago in a...) and let me keep a listing to have some light reading back on the plane. But I have no manuals... Perhaps a copy-swap? (The source listing is a pretty thick binder, though...) (No way I would ever live in Ft. Laud.) Gary At 09:43 PM 6/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >I've still got a Vulcan manual around somewhere for the S200/7. > >I worked with SN#3 at OIT back in the early 80's... >(You know... The dark times!) > >George > >========================================================= >George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com >Beaverton, Oregon http://racsys.rt.rain.com >United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX > >On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >> Out of curiousity does anyone have a Harris H-500 preserved in their >> collection? I was thinking about this today, I've not seen anything on any >> Harris Mini's. This was the first real computer that I used/worked on. >> >> Zane >> | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | >> | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | >> | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | >> +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ >> | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >> | and Zane's Computer Museum. | >> | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | >>

27 years, 1 month

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Televideo TS-806/20

by bobcaar＠cyberdude.com

Wait never mind..it's up and running now after a few power cycles....and I'm backing up everything to my pc. Thanks to All, I WILL be asking more later... T.H.x. Devon >I hadn't known thats what they were for (winch)...If I ever get some, I bet I can rig something up. After fiddling around some more (thanks for the info, all), I've got it to work...kind of...When it starts it now says "System IPL from Hard disk in progress". Then no more... I know the disk booted before ...I could type garbage back when I was getting garbage (about 4 times before it quit)... It would be great if you could send me a boot disk... Televideo hasn't replied to my e-mails yet...I'll give them a few more days.. > > T.H.x. > Devon >

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Televideo TS-806/20

by edick＠idcomm.com

Well, I'm not sure I agree about the relative importance of cables with which to interface a hard disk. That's probably the one thing that makes a computer compute fast enough to be useful. First of all I'd try 9600 baud before anything else, since I believe that's the default. I don't remember what the board switches do, but I can hunt around for the manual and get back to you. I wouldn't use PCAW, as a terminal, myself. I haven't had good luck with it. How about Hyperterminal of Procomm. I've used both of those in connection with a PC and had better luck than with PCAW, though I've had good luck using PCAW for file transfers, etc. This box was ostensibly a file server and probably contains VERY important software, e.g. the MMMost (or whatever it was called) network OS, which isn't around any longer. This box is capable of serving as a single-user system, but if you still have the HDD, from which it should boot all by itself if it hasn't been roached up, you might want to preserve it. Well you're in luck . . . I got a phone interruption after which I thought of a place to look for the manual...Oddly enough, that's where it was. The manual says the "upper" four bits of the dip switch is used for baud rate settings. The lower four bits (5,6,7,8) are unused except for position 8 which is reserved for diagnostics. Obviously, the one who wrote this manual was on drugs. A closed switch is a zero. The baud rates go from 19.2K down to 75, with ascending values from 0000 to 1000, remembering that a 0 means CLOSED. Switch 1 is the lsb. I hope that helps you get it going! If you need a boot diskette, maybe I can help you there as well. Televideo, by the way, is still in business, so it's not inconceivable they might be able to help too, if you ask them. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Televideo TS-806/20 >I don't have the cables for the winch (control) or winch (data) ports >although I have a board for them...they aren't important, I just thought >I'd mention that. I don't have a (working) terminal right now, so I tried >it with my pc (via serial port & pcAnywhere emulation of TVI 925 @ 75 to >1200 baud settings, n&e&o parity, 4 - 8 data, and 1 stop). With any of the >settings, I get garbage on the screen. I would like to get it to work with >my pc. Any help in those settings in particular would be great. I noticed >8 dip switches on the main board. Do you know what they are for? > > T.H.x. > Devon > > >At 09:35 PM 10/06/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>I use a TVI 925 with mine. I suppose it's possible to set it up for >>something else, and perhaps that's what's happened. >>I think my TVI is set for n-8-1. When you say no cables or conntectors, do >>you mean for the internal HDD, or do you mean you have two HDC's? >> >>What software is it you think you're missing? >> >>Dick >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> >>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers >><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >>Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:38 PM >>Subject: Televideo TS-806/20 >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>> Can anyone help me with Televideo TS-806/20 information? In particular >>>some info on a terminal emulation that will work with it. Currently, I get >>>garbage with it hooked up to my pc (using pcAnywhere emulation of Televideo >>>912, 920, 925, ANSI, or X3270/Televideo). The garbage is alway the same >>>each boot. Also info on parity, data bits, stops would be handy. It's a >>>1981 Z80 based system with a 5 1/4 DS?D Floppy and MFM hard drive. It also >>>has 6 user, centronics printer, serial, winch (data), winch (control) ports >>>(no cables or connectors for the last 2 but there is a board). I don't >>>have the manuals or any software for it. >>> >>> T.H.x. >>> Devon >>> >> >> >

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Spring CP/M-UG (Oregon) Swapmeet coming up!

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

Just so you can't say I never tell you people anything... B^} ---------- Yes, Once Again.... It's time for the... Grand Floral Swapmeet Who: CP/Mug. (yeah, we're still here.) What: Computers, Audio, Video, High-Tech, Low-Tech, etc. When: Saturday, June 12, 1999, 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM. Where: Tigard Senior Center in Tigard. 8815 SW Omara Tigard, OR Admission: FREE! Rules: There are no rules, except no leaving things. (NO Garbage Service!) Fees: There are no fees, except we'll beg. Reservations: There are no reservations. Setup: Starts at 8:00 AM. Be early for best position, NO reservations!. Bring a table, if you have one. Bring a ground cloth if it's sunny, and display on the lawn. Tailgating is encouraged and quite effective. Sales: Starts at 8:00 AM. Be early for the best deals, volunteer to help shlep the stuff. Whimper, Whine, etc.. Feel free to denigrate vendors tawdry wares... Shutdown: Doors get locked at 2:00 PM. Contact: Gary at Oregon Electronics, 503-239-5293 -- Gary Grossoehme - GaryG4430 "at" aol "dot" com Oregon Electronics - 503-239-5293 935 NE Couch St. - Computer Cable Specialists Portland, Oregon - Member: AfterBurner Fan Club. ---------- -jim --- jimw(a)computergarage.org The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 >>> Coming soon to www.computergarage.org - the CBBS/NW on-line archives >>> Coming to VCF III (2-3 October 1999) - CBBS/NW live!

27 years, 1 month

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DEC Docs

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

OKay VMS fans . . . I have a couple of documents I don't need: RA90/92 Users manual - Mangled, but readable, there is a little useful information here. VMS Liscense PAK's - Various liscence docs for VAX/VMS, TCP/IP, DECNET & DW-MOTIF. According to the Fine Print (tm), "This document does not constitute a liscence" >:^P Okay, okay, so its worthless, but maybe somebody out there would it as a conversation piece. They got wet at one time, so they're not even close to mint, but hey, they're the genuine article! Either one for the cost of mailing it! Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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Televideo TS-806/20

by edick＠idcomm.com

I use a TVI 925 with mine. I suppose it's possible to set it up for something else, and perhaps that's what's happened. I think my TVI is set for n-8-1. When you say no cables or conntectors, do you mean for the internal HDD, or do you mean you have two HDC's? What software is it you think you're missing? Dick -----Original Message----- From: Devon <bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: Televideo TS-806/20 >Hello, > > Can anyone help me with Televideo TS-806/20 information? In particular >some info on a terminal emulation that will work with it. Currently, I get >garbage with it hooked up to my pc (using pcAnywhere emulation of Televideo >912, 920, 925, ANSI, or X3270/Televideo). The garbage is alway the same >each boot. Also info on parity, data bits, stops would be handy. It's a >1981 Z80 based system with a 5 1/4 DS?D Floppy and MFM hard drive. It also >has 6 user, centronics printer, serial, winch (data), winch (control) ports >(no cables or connectors for the last 2 but there is a board). I don't >have the manuals or any software for it. > > T.H.x. > Devon >

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Need help with rescue in Richardson, Texas

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Hello all you ten gallon hat wearing mo-fo's. I've got a rather large rescue on my hands in Richardson, Texas. A company there is donating a half ton of computers to the VCF and has about a half ton more of varied interesting systems that they'd like to get rid of. If anyone is in the greater Dallas area and can lend a hand sometime next week with transporting 14 large boxes of stuff to the airport then please contact me via private e-mail. You will probably go away with something to add to your own collection. I'll give you more details when you e-mail me. Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out. Coming this October 2-3: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0! See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 05/25/99]

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VAX 11/750!!!!

by clintw＠colorado.cirrus.com

Hi all, My VAX 11/750 finally arrived from TN (yeah!!!), and I am just starting to sort through what I received... Perhaps this weekend I will get it powered up (though I will have to insure my hottub doesn't start at the same time and blow the main breaker :) Are there suggestions from listland on procedure for powering up and running the diagnostics? I have a box of tapes but I don't know what they all are or do... Does anyone have boards/documentation/fiche/printsets they would be willing to give/sell/trade/loan to me? Contact me off-list, perhaps I have stuff you are interested in also (I got a stack of spare boards that I don't think I need)... Thanks, clint (the proud owner of a KW/KIPS computer!!!

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SABER 500 (SCSI)

by edick＠idcomm.com

Seagate probably describes these on their web site, else check www.theref.com. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: SABER 500 (SCSI) >Guys: > >I have a CDC SABER 500Mb drive. >Does anybody know how to set SCSI parity on this thing? >Does anybody have the dip switch settings? > >Thanks! > > >Jeff >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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SABER 500 (SCSI)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Guys: I have a CDC SABER 500Mb drive. Does anybody know how to set SCSI parity on this thing? Does anybody have the dip switch settings? Thanks! Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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Trojan Heads-Up

by lwalker＠mail.interlog.com

For all you Windblows leading edge people here's a heads-up. Course if you use reliable, proven technology it doesn't apply. :^) ciao larry ------------------------------------------------------------------- before you open any attachmentes, Here is part of the info on a new virus that replicates and sends messages, as well as destroying material on your hard drive. More at the Carnegie Mellon site: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-99-06-explorezip.html CERTr Advisory CA-99-06 ExploreZip Trojan Horse Program Original issue date: Thursday June 10, 1999 Source: CERT/CC Systems Affected Machines running Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows NT. Any mail handling system could experience performance problems or a denial of service as a result of the propagation of this Trojan horse program. Overview The CERT Coordination Center continues to receive reports and inquiries regarding various forms of malicious executable files that are propagated as file attachments in electronic mail. Most recently, the CERT/CC has received reports of sites affected by ExploreZip, a Windows Trojan horse program. I. Description The CERT/CC has received reports of a Trojan horse program that is propagating in email attachments. This program is called ExploreZip. The number and variety of reports we have received indicate that this has the potential to be a widespread attack affecting a variety of sites. Our analysis indicates that this Trojan horse program requires the victim to run the attached zipped_files.exe program in order install a copy of itself and enable propagation. Based on reports we have received, systems running Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT are the target platforms for this Trojan horse program. It is possible that under some mailer configurations, a user might automatically open a malicious file received in the form of an email attachment. This program is not known to exploit any new vulnerabilities. While the primary transport mechanism of this program is via email, any way of transferring files can also propagate the program. The ExploreZip Trojan horse has been propagated in the form of email messages containing the file zipped_files.exe as an attachment. The body of the email message usually appears to come from a known email correspondent, and may contain the following text: I received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP. Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs. The subject line of the message may not be predictable and may appear to be sent in reply to previous email. Opening the zipped_files.exe file causes the program to execute. At this time, there is conflicting information about the exact actions taken by zipped_files.exe when executed. One possible reason for conflicting information may be that there are multiple variations of the program being propagated, although we have not confirmed this one way or the other. Currently, we have the following general information on actions taken by the program. The program searches local and networked drives (drive letters C through Z) for specific file types and attempts to erase the contents of the files, leaving a zero byte file. The targets may include Microsoft Office files, such as .doc, .xls, and .ppt, and various source code files, such as .c, .cpp, .h, and .asm. The program propagates by replying to any new email that is received by an infected computer. A copy of zipped_files.exe is attached to the reply message. The program creates an entry in the Windows 95/98 WIN.INI file: run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Explore.exe On Windows NT systems, an entry is made in the system registry: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows] run = "c:\winnt\system32\explore.exe" The program creates a file called explore.exe in the following locations: Windows 95/98 - c:\windows\system\explore.exe Windows NT - c:\winnt\system32\explore.exe This file is a copy of the zipped_files.exe Trojan horse, and the file size is 210432 bytes. MD5 (Explore.exe) = 0e10993050e5ed199e90f7372259e44b We will update this advisory with more specific information as we are able to confirm details. Please check the CERT/CC web site for the current version containing a complete revision history. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ lwalker(a)interlog.com Let us know of your upcoming computer events for our Events Page. t3c(a)xoommail.com Collectors List and info http://members.xoom.com/T3C

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Disk Drive Documents

by mark_k＠iname.com

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 Scott Ware wrote: > CCITT G4 TIFF is itself a reasonable format for storing scanned > documentation. The PDP-8 manuals available from Kevin McQuiggin's site in > G4 TIFF format are surprisingly small for good quality 300 dpi monochrome > documents. Unfortunately, XV, Gimp, and ImageMagick display do not > include support for multipage G4 TIFF files. The ImageMagick 'convert' > command line utility can be used to convert G4 TIFF files into (much > larger) PostScript files for viewing and printing, and both Paint Shop Pro > (under Windows) and Graphic Converter (on the Mac) supposedly have G4 TIFF > support. If you get hold of the free libtiff distribution (which BTW, I believe XV, Gimp & ImageMagick use for their TIFF support), compile the tiffsplit program. This takes a multi-page TIFF file, and outputs a single TIFF file for each page. Tiffsplit works fine, and even I managed to compile it, which is saying something. For Windows 95/98/NT users, the Imaging program supplied with the operating system understands multi-page TIFF. (The libtiff package is/used to be at ftp.sgi.com) -- Mark

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Visual computer

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I have an old Visual (brand name) computer. It's a huge laptop with a flip up screen that looks like it only shows about 12 lines. It looks like an IBM laptop but much bigger. Does anyone have any links to info on this beast? I tried to search the net but all the links that I find are for Visual C and that kind of crap. Joe

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RL02 Help

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

John wrote: > I have two RL11 cards, one RL11 -> RL02 cable and connectors, and >nine (9) RL02 drives. You should also have at least one RL cable terminator, too! Small hint for those needing more RL11-ribbon-cable-to-RL02-round cable adapters: you can make two of these from each busted RL02 drive you have! Bill suggested: >Been a long time, but it sounds to me like the cable on the RL11 >may be reversed at the transition block. I, too, suspect a possible cabling problem. >I'd flip it. I don't think it does any harm. I can guarantee that it won't do any harm. Indeed, I do my RL cabling by such trial-and-error. (Same goes for Pertec formatted tape drive cables... many edge connectors have a polarizing slot in them, but there are several different standards for where the slot goes, making it useless for folks like me with so many different makes and models of Pertec formatted drives!) >One other issue... check the round cable for bent pins. Another question that comes to mind, which may have been answered before: there is a terminator on the back of the RL02 drive, right? It doesn't hurt to open up the terminator and make sure that it really is one! A real RL terminator has a many-legged resistor pack inside it. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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RL02 Help

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Thanks to all who have been of great assistance so far. I have two RL11 cards, one RL11 -> RL02 cable and connectors, and nine (9) RL02 drives. Tonite, in the 11/44, I have tried unsuccessfully to get an RL02 to at least function properly. I have an RL01 installation and operator's guide, and the RL01/02 Pocket Service Guide (in case the pocket in the drive goes bad...) I have tried both cards... the machine seems to be happy, and the Emulex 1/2" card in the next SPC slot makes the Kennedy do it's thing, with either RL11 card in the system. I have traced, by hand, the cables from the RL11 Berg to the RL02 cable transition header, and unless I'm missing something really subtle.. it looks like the book sez it should look. I have tested the power supplies of both the RL0s I have currently in the rack. Voltages are in spec. I do not have sufficient Unibus card extenders to test a hex-height module up out of the frame. [NOTE: Will be very happy to buy one more dual-height extender, or a complete hex one.] Both drives act like there is no clock coming from the RL11.. the Fault and Ready lights are on and the drive does not spin up when the Load button is pushed. If I open the drive and jumper the appropriate points, the spindle does come up to speed, tho the heads never extend. Before I get into a long, frustrating troubleshooting session, I would like some possible opinions from perhaps someone who has more experience with the RL02 system than I do. These units were originally connected to my 11/34, and they *used* to work there, however I have never had them run successfully here at home. The Deal: If someone (Tim? Allison? Megan?) would be interested, I have a toll-free 888 number (for my home business)... maybe on a weekend we could do a little phone consulting while I have access to the running system. I have plenty o' test gear, lots of disk packs, etc. I want to *use* the System, not spend the rest of my life endlessly repairing and debugging it. I keep complex electronic systems running all day, many times under 'cannot fail' conditions.... when I finally have a bit of time for playing with the DECs, the thrill of the hunt has been, well, used up... so to speak. I am perfectly willing to cover any charges/expenses/consulting fees involved in trying to get this going... whether or not the diagnostic session(s) result in a working subsystem... at least it might point me down the right road. Any interest? OR: anybody in SoCal wanna come over and play on a weekend? I **really** want to get this off the ground. Then.... RX02s. ThenThen... RK05s.... But I digress. Cheers and Thanks once again to all who have offered help so far.. John

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by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Unfortunately, I think you're still not subscribed! Can you send the same >message to the list software? > >subscribe classiccmp hhacker(a)home.com If you look at the actual body of his message, his "subscribe" line is actually in the middle of a Mime-encoded passage. Could this be confusing the list software? (The HTML-encoded "subscribe" line also being generated by his e-mail software isn't helping, either!) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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RL02 Help

by mbg＠world.std.com

1) Since it doesn't spin up on its own, check the little rubber doohicky (tecnical term :-) which is mounted in the door and presses the interlock switch... if this is old, it sometimes gets a little soft and the switch doesn't get pressed enough. 2) Check that you've unlocked the heads 3) verify you have a terminator on the last drive 4) check the cabling again -- just in case it was reversed between the RL11 and the transition plate. that's all I can think of right now... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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MSCP Manual

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, for any of you ex-digits out there, here's the deal. I've been trying off and on to debug why the MSCP driver in the NetBSD VAX port goes south on me. In order to do this I really need to understand the MSCP protocol, to do that I could use some documentation. I have a very brief treatment in the Webster ESQD manual, but I need the real thing. Let me know off list if you can help out, thanks, --Chuck

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My new toy: HP85

by wrm＠ccii.co.za

Hi all Yesterday evening a friend gave me a new toy. Hp85, which is a strange looking computer. Four slots at the back, and I have five cards to plug in there: 82939A Serial I/F 82940A GP-IO I/F 82903A 16K memory module (8x4116 inside) 82909A 128K memory module (16x4164 inside) 82936A Rom Drawer containing 3 roms, 00085-15001 Mass Storage 00085-15002 Plotter/Printer 00085-15003 Input/Output I havn't powered the thing up yet, but apparently it runs BASIC. It has a printer and what looks like a tape slot. I'm sure one of you can tell me more... :-) Thanks Wouter

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Damn Fine Day!

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I just received an original 8k (7167 bytes free in BASIC) Commodore PET 2001. The one with the cassette deck next to the calculator keyboard. Checked it out and it runs great! Some of the keys are not responding but the owner had added a regular keyboard external to it which seems to be working fine. I tested it with the same program I use to enter into the Pet in the stores when I first saw them: 10 PRINT "BUY AN APPLE II" 20 GOTO 10 Ok, so I was a punk high school student at the time. :-) This came as part of 5 huge boxes of old computer equipment. Including an XOR S-100 CP/M system with lots of software on 8" floppies (including Turbo-PASCAL for CP/M-80), manuals, etc. A TI-99/4A in original box (good shape too), a Bendix Terminal and a Bendix LogicPort. And all just for the cost of shipping. This is cool. The Pet and the CP/M system were the big things for me. I haven't looked at anything other than the Pet yet. Lots to sort through and check out. Also received an Interact computer for shipping cost from someone else. This also with an extra external keyboard hack. I'll get pictures up soon! Computer heaven! :-) ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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HP7937 (Eagle) discs was HP 9000/840S is alive (sorta)

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

On Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:47 PM, Lee Courtney [SMTP:leec@slip.net] wrote: > Hi Steve et al, > > I have several 7937 (HP internal codename Eagle) drives connected to an > HP3000 with 2 still working, 1 dead, 1 limping along. My CE told me that > these drives don't like to be turned off for 'extended' periods of time > as the lubricant for the drive bearings tends to loose its > effectiveness. His advice was to keep em turned on and spun up all the > time - use it or lose it approach. I think mine were decomissioned about 18 months ago. Been running em for a couple of days and they seem to be getting quieter. The spindle bearings in one of them was screaming when I first turned it on but now it's getting better. Of course this doesn't cure the data errors. I probably wouldn't try to get any more of that type unless they're local. Shipping would be pretty expensive on a drive that heavy. The shoebox one's weigh 25 or 30 pounds. They're a lot more reasonable to ship. If nothing else, the cabinet will make a nice coffee table :-) Regards, Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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HP7937 (Eagle) discs was HP 9000/840S is alive (sorta)

by leec＠slip.net

Hi Steve et al, I have several 7937 (HP internal codename Eagle) drives connected to an HP3000 with 2 still working, 1 dead, 1 limping along. My CE told me that these drives don't like to be turned off for 'extended' periods of time as the lubricant for the drive bearings tends to loose its effectiveness. His advice was to keep em turned on and spun up all the time - use it or lose it approach. HP is pulling the plug this year on the last OS release to support Eagles, so they should start appearing in greater (and cheaper) numbers. I have one customer who bought a truckload for their HP 3000 Series 70 (circa mid-80s) and just toss the drive and wheel in a "good" one when they have a hardware problem, cheaper than HW support from HP. Regards, Lee Courtney President -- Monterey Software Group Inc. Voice: 650-964-7052 1350 Pear Avenue, Suite J Fax: 650-964-6735 Mountain View, California 94043-1302 Pager: 408-237-1705 Email: leec AT-SIGN slip DOT net http://www.editcorp.com/Businesses/MontereySoftware Mainframe Network, Session, and Batch Authentication, Audit, and Access Control for Hewlett-Packard 3000 Business Servers

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HP1000 on Ebay

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

I took a closer look at that HP1000 on ebay. The guy sent me some better pictures of the unit. Just to let everyone know here, this unit is obviously a highly modified OEM model. There are special non-HP cards in places where there aren't supposed to be any cards - even HP ones. The card cage itself is modified. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but I want to let folks know that the standard HP1000 operating guide may not be much help with that system. Jay West

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