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New Acquisitions! (HP2000) -> now facit 4070 punch...

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

Tony Duell wrote... >These pull out towards the back of the punch - on later models >there's a little metal rod that retains them. Loosen the screw that >clamps that and slide it up out of the way. I must have a later model, mine has the metal rod you mentioned... However, the rest seems different from what you described. When I remove the baseplate, the first board visible does have some stuff on it, but certainly not a uart. This first board is almost (within 1/2 inch) as long as the board underneath it. This first board is virtually empty, except there was one row of 13 small transistors top to bottom, then a row of approximately 3 resistors and 1 diode for each transistor. Then there's a fair amount of traces taking the signals to the edge connector. It would appear that the sole purpose of the back half of this board is to bring two test points to the rear of the unit (6v and gnd). The board underneath this appears to be the main logic board you referred to, as there are a number of power transistors on the board. As a point of reference, there are also a set of hardwired jumpers, labeled 1 through 8 on the board too. Next to this is a set of small transistors marked off as 1 through 9. Then there is a metal plate (3 screws remove the top half of it) revealing a final small PCA, obviously power related (theres a few 7 watt resistors, and what appears to be some yellow coils). The guy I got this punch from swears it hooked up to a standard rs232 serial port, but at this point I'm skeptical. Is any further info available? Thanks in advance! Jay West

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Sun 2/120 questions.

by fluke＠mcs.net

I have been looking for quite a while to try and find a framebuffer for my sun 2/120. I have everything I need for a working system, including monitor,kb,mouse,cpu,etc etc etc but I have _no_ framebuffer! I even have OS tapes. The card cage and system works, as I used it with a vt100 terminal for a while.. I couldn't get my tapes to install, though, and I am not sure why. Anybody have any advise? Also, is there a good place to go for pinouts and such? I was looking around for some pinouts, but found a hard time of finding only the pinouts for a VGA connector. Is there a place that just has pinouts for things that might be useful to classic people? ie- MCA bus, crazy kb connectors on old workstations, etc etc? Thanks, Greg Linder fluke(a)mcs.net

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looking for G111 & G233

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Hah! How'd you avoid getting sniped? I'm 0 for 6 on e-bay myself. I could just spit. Jeff On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:03:16 GMT Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> writes: > Well, I went and purchased a 8K core memory board on ebay, mainly > because I recognized it as a G646C core memory plane from a > pdp8/e or /f. > > If someone has the G111 and G233 boards that should go with this, > but not the core memory, then perhaps i can trade you something > for them. > > -Lawrence (That core plane will work in a Muniac computer too???) > LeMay ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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Altair speech synthesizer card by AICS :: anyone have one?

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>>> (Artificially Intelligent Cybernetic Systems), >> >>Wow. Impressive name. Betch'a they did not live up to it. > > I like the idea of artifical stupids. The natural ones are quite bad enough! But seriously, look at the way robots are portrayed in Clifford Simak's novels - good at getting jobs done, and even at making decisions, but not good on creativity. I suspect the first truly thinking AI will be a bit like that... > Anybody else ever read the sci fi book Tik Tok? Sladek, isn't it? I've read it, but I didn't enjoy it much. Too much gratuitous violence, and robots too human physically. Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

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Conway's "Game of Life" ... when invented?

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows when John Conway invented "life". The best I've found on the web is "1960s". But...I just saw a movie, "Ocean's Eleven" (starring Frank Sinatra and the rest of the Rat Pack) ... and I'd swear that the start of the credits looks a lot like a run of life (i.e., several generations of display in the cellular automata game) at the beginning, which then segues into pseudo-Vegas neon signs. The movie is credited as being in 1960. thanks, Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com

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Large inventory of transputer parts for sale!!!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

First, never heard back from the guy posting for sale... <> with the T800. I basically call it a mutant T800 :-) It is a new "linea <> the transputer tree. Despite all this my knowledge of what a transputer is hasn't greatly improved. It would be interesting to have a discussion as to it's archetecture and all. Allison

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facit 4070 punch...

by mranalog＠home.com

"Jay West" <jlwest(a)tseinc.com> wrote: > When I remove the baseplate, the first board visible does have some stuff on > it, but certainly not a uart. This first board is almost (within 1/2 inch) > as long as the board underneath it. This first board is virtually empty, > except there was one row of 13 small transistors top to bottom, then a row > of approximately 3 resistors and 1 diode for each transistor. Then there's a > fair amount of traces taking the signals to the edge connector. It would > appear that the sole purpose of the back half of this board is to bring two > test points to the rear of the unit (6v and gnd). First I want to say that Western Numerical Control sells copies of the technical manual for the Facit 4070. The cost is $25 and if you order, ask for the free mylar sample and they will send you about 50 feet of 1" mylar tape. The Facit 4070 punches mylar just fine. OK now, the manual calls the first or bottom board the "matching board". And says "This board can be supplied without components, to be used by the customer for his own interface electronics". This board in my 4070 was originally blank but was then hand wired with one 74LS04 and one 74LS00 to invert the 8 data bits, and one 74LS123 to provide the right length pulse for the punch start signal. I also have a HP 9884A (which is the same thing) that has a HP PCB with transistors in this first slot. > The board underneath this appears to be the main logic board you referred > to, as there are a number of power transistors on the board. As a point of > reference, there are also a set of hardwired jumpers, labeled 1 through 8 on > the board too. Next to this is a set of small transistors marked off as 1 > through 9. > > Then there is a metal plate (3 screws remove the top half of it) revealing a > final small PCA, obviously power related (theres a few 7 watt resistors, and > what appears to be some yellow coils). These punches come standard with a parallel interface, but they make RS-232 interface and a "Multi Interface" board which is a parallel,RS-232,and current loop interface. This multi interface has a toggle switch to select the interface and a DB-25S on the board for RS-232 and current loop operation. (For parallel operation the DB-25 on the rear of the punch is used). This multi interface also has two 8 switch, one 5 switch, and one 4 switch dip-switches on the board. So without seeing your board I would bet that it is a parallel board. Here is the information that Tony sent me before I ordered my manual (hopefully it will save him from typing it all in again :) > Here's the jumper board info - it's very simple. > First find pin A1 on the option card connector. This is linked to pin 1 > on the DB25, so an ohmeter will find it. > The pins on that side of the connector are A1-A22, those on the other > side are B1-B22 > > The jumper board links : > A1-B1 > A2-B2 > A3-B3 > A4-B4 > A5-B5 > A6-B6 > A7-B7 > A8-B8 > A9-B9 > A10-B10 > A11-B11 > A12-B12 > A13-B13 (maybe, the manual is unclear here, but unless you need the > timing pulse output it doesn't matter) > > That's it. 12 or 13 through-board links. > > --------------------------- > > Cable Wirelist : IBM Printer Port -> Facit 4070 Punch > PC Punch > Strobe (1) o----------------o PI (11) [Punch Instruction] > D0 (2) o----------------o Ch1 (1) [Channel 1] > D1 (3) o----------------o Ch2 (2) [Channel 2] > D2 (4) o----------------o Ch3 (3) [Channel 3] > D3 (5) o----------------o Ch4 (4) [Channel 4] > D4 (6) o----------------o Ch5 (5) [Channel 5] > D5 (7) o----------------o Ch6 (6) [Channel 6] > D6 (8) o----------------o Ch7 (7) [Channel 7] > D7 (9) o----------------o Ch8 (8) [Channel 8] > Busy (11) o----------------o PR (12) [Punch Ready] > Gnd (25) o----------------o Gnd(25) [Ground] > +---o Ch9 (9) [Channel 9 - Sprocket] > +---o +6V(24) [+6V output] > > ----------------------- > > [This bit applies to a special application that I used it for - hence the > reference to punching card. Some of the rest of it might be useful, though] > > Facit 4070 Notes > ---------------- > [Circuit references apply to TTL logic board version 1] > Increase the 1K pull-down (R54) on the PI line to about 10K since the pull-up > on the IBM printer port is otherwise too high to turn on VT11. > > Increase the monotime of IC23 to give a bit more punch-pin drive for reliable > punching on card. Set R97 to 27K and remove R129 > > Make sure the punch solenoids are correctly set up as per the Service Manual. > (Procedure 5.1E) > ------------------------ > Here's the Pascal program fragments to talk to the punch. Call init_punch > at the start of the program (before turning on the 4070!) and then > punch_byte for each character to be punched > > const port_base=$278; {port were 4070 is connected} > > procedure init_punch; > begin; > port[port_base+2]:=1; {Set PI low} > end; > > procedure punch_byte(ch:byte); > begin; > repeat; until (port[port_base+1] and 128) = 0; > port[port_base]:=ch; > port[port_base+2]:=0; > repeat until(port[port_base+1] and 128) > 0; > port[port_base+2]:=1; > end; > --------------------------------- I started building a PC to 4070 interface cable, with a 'C' version of Tony's program, but I got to the point of senting a punch signal to the 4070 and the punch's power supply would shut down. I stepped away for a few days and I have not gotten back to it to determine what I was doing wrong. I hope that helps, --Doug P.S. WNC also sells a RS-232 interface for the Facit 4070. Price new $695.00, used $495.00 :) ==================================================== Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com (work) Sr. Software Eng. mranalog(a)home.com (home) Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com Sunnyvale,CA Curator Analog Computer Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog ====================================================

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IMSAI Progress

by bill＠chipware.com

Well, I gave up on the MIO for a while. Tony's explanation, while good, was making my head spin! Also, I don't have any 26 pin card edge connectors. So I started looking at the Cromemco 4FDC documentation and, lo-and-behold, it has a serial port. The documentation on the serial port is clear and simple, and I now have toggled in a short program to initialize it and echo characters (also, put them on the front panel lights). According to the docs, the EPROM on this board contains a monitor which operates through the serial port, but, and it is quite emphatic about this, it is Z80 code. Is anybody out there using one of these? With an 8080A? Maybe could send me an alternate monitor to burn on an EPROM? Thanks, Bill Sudbrink

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Corvus Concept, Varian 620/L

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Al Kossow has scanned a couple of manuals that I've had sitting around for a while and put 'em up on the net. He's not on the list but says it's OK to tell y'all. He'd also like to know about Varian 620/L software and documentation. If you have some or know something about it, send him e-mail at aek(a)spies.com. Feel free to cc: me, I'm interested too but not real knowledgeable. OK, on to the Corvus manuals. Note each file is a 9MB PDF and these may not be the ideal manuals for you to learn about the Corvus Concept. Read the following descriptions before downloading. The Service Manual is just what it says it is; if you have a broken Concept or want to know what to do about one this manual will probably be of interest. The Hardware Reference includes the theory of operation document for the Concept hardware, a section on how write code to talk to the Omninet interface, and a section on the Corvus hard disk interface which addresses both the electrical signals on the interface and the communication between the computer and hard disk. Reading the latter made me think that it should be possible to talk to a Corvus hard disk (at least at a disk-block level) with a sufficiently bi-directional IBM PC flavor parallel port or similar interface, a (passive) cable, and some software that I haven't got around to writing yet. http://www.spies.com/aek/Corvus/ConceptHWRef.pdf - Corvus Concept Hardware Reference manual http://www.spies.com/aek/Corvus/ConceptServiceMan.pdf - Corvus Concept Service Manual Thanks for doing the work of scanning may be directed to aek(a)spies.com. Flames about PDF format can be sent to me. I won't really care either but sufficiently good flames might move me to ask Al whether he has raw files that I can do something with in my copious free time (ha ha). -Frank McConnell

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Anyone Know Where "TheRef" Has Moved To???

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi All: The excellent site, http://theref.c3d.rl.af.mil/, seems to no longer be available. It had a ton of useful info on hard drives and controllers. Anyone know if the site has moved, and where to? Thanks, Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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VT340 manual?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<pallette on the standard, and the + is dual session (I think, will <have to check on that). I've got a + here hooked to one of the machines <in my cluster. Somewhere I have a couple of manuals, too. Can't send <them, but will be glad to copy some pages if you let me know what you the + has more cart fonts and maybe more color pallette. Both are dual session. Allison

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Apollo manual available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Would anyone like a copy of 'Getting Started with your Domain System' from Apollo Computer, Inc.? Published around 1983-84, it appears to be a basic user's guide for the Apollo Domain box. Whoever wants it (and I'll be going by time/date stamp on the responses), first-come, first-served for $5.00 (covers postage, etc.) If you're local (Seattle area), and you choose to pick it up instead, it's a freebie. Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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HP 9000/236

by owad＠applefritter.com

>How hard should I be kicking myself for not snagging an HP 9000/236 for $30 >at a hamfest in Timonium, MD? Did any of the other folks on this list pick >it up? I've been wondering the same thing. I passed on it, too. I talked to the guy, though, and he said it couldn't boot completely and needed the OS. I made out pretty well at the show, though. Purchased: Outbound Laptop Franklin ACE 500 w/manuals & Franklin monitor Mac 128k Stack of Apple Dealer CD's TRS-80 Model 2 Imagewriter LQ Rasterops 21" Grayscale display Lots of old Mac software (including ][ in a Mac!) A bunch of Mac accessories (MacNifty, 128k/512k accelerator) Zenith Data Systems Luggable Two Apple Tape Drives One bottle of Apple Juice Total amount spent was $65. I collect Apple clones, finding two makes for a very successful hamfest. Tom Owad ---------------------------Applefritter--------------------------- Apple prototypes, Apple II & early Mac clones, and the Compubrick. ------------------<http://www.applefritter.com/>------------------

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DECpc 433 workstation/any documentation on this?

by mbg＠world.std.com

>I found the above box recently and would like to get it up. Can anyone >help me with info on this? The ram has been pulled as has the cpu so I >need to know what its chip settup was. Seems to be Intel stuff >otherwise. There are numerous adds on the net re; ram for this but >virtually no other info. Other than that, the information I've collected >is that it ran off of Dos (!?!) and was used in a token ring. >Interesting layout inside. I believe there are multiple 433 systems... if the type you have is a table-top unit about two inches thick with the 3.5" floppy on the right side of the unit, I might be able to help... contact me off-list. > I also need to know if there was anything special about the floppy >drive as I'd need to replace that as well. Last, is there anyway to rig >a harddrive into one of these? Again, if it is the one I mentioned above, yes, you can have a hard drive -- but it has to be a notebook-type 2.5" drive. I think the floppy is a standard RX23... though you might be able to put in an RX26 (2.88Mb). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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HP 7910 Disk Drive

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

At a regular Ham Radio Trash and Treasure sale I went to today there was a HP7910 disk drive at the bottom of a big pile of slow moving stuff that seems to be there every time. I didn't grab it because it was too deep, no time etc. Maybe next time. What system/era would this have been from? Hans

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Altair speech synthesizer card by AICS :: anyone have one?

by ss＠allegro.com

Re: > > (Artificially Intelligent Cybernetic Systems), > > Wow. Impressive name. Betch'a they did not live up to it. > > William Donzelli > aw288(a)osfn.org In some respects: Recent paper by founder of AICS: http://www.aics-research.com/research/notes.html Bio/recent work by student associated with AICS: http://www.natural-selection.com/people/dbf.html AICS' main work for the last 20 years hasn't been in cybernetics, but in more general purpose programming (on the HP 3000). SS

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Commodore 128d

by PATTON2R＠aol.com

Greeting to all, I picked up a Commodore 128d (manufactured Sep 1985) yesterday and found out the CP/M System User Utilities Disk and CP/M Plus Version 3.0 disk is bad. Anybody out there got another disk that I could get a copy of it from? Robert Patton II Lakewood, WA PATTON2R(a)aol.com

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Apollo manual claimed

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Joe Rigdon has claimed the Apollo manual I offered earlier. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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VT340 manual?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Two quick questions for the list: 1) Does anyone know the difference between a VT340 and a VT340+? 2) Does anyone have a manual for same, that I could purchase/borrow/copy etc. Thanks, --Chuck

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FS: Nice 486SX machines

by rhblake＠biigfoot.com

Sorry for the sales ad people but I need to move these quick... I just picked up a dozen Dell 425s/NP machines last night in place of payment for work done for someone. They all work great and look like new. Each has 4 mb ram and most have 213mb hard drives, some 120mb. A cdrom can be installed as there is a closed off 5.25" baywhich can be used by opening the cut out in the front bezel. They run a 486SX-25 processor and are in a very durable low profile steel desktop case. Each has built in serial, parallel, mouse, keyboard and video ports. You use a PS/2 style keyboard or an adapter, and use either the PS/2 style mouse port or one of the serial ports. They each have 3 spare ISA slots as well and a 3.5" floppy and IDE hard drive interface. All onboard jumpers are plainly marked and onboard video can be disabled to accomodate a separate video card. BIOS is easy to get into as well and very easy to work with. RAM is 72 pin SIMMs. Beige in color, good condition. Most had DOS and Windows 3.11 and many had OS/2 originally. Win95 will function well on them with added RAM. These would make excellent linux boxes as well, or even a low buck machine for those odd tasks or for the kids. Each has been tested and loaded with MSDOS boot only. Add your own operating system, monitor, keyboard and mouse for a sweet little machine. They've been tested with both mono and color VGA monitors. I can add one of the 2S/2P cards I have if you desire additional ports, for $3.00 more. Will include setup docs. I traded these for a $300 debt long overdue so $300 * 12 is $25 each. That's what I need from each plus the shipping via USPS (insured). They weigh roughly 22 lbs each for shipping. Drop me a line at RHBLAKE(a)BIGFOOT.COM if interested. if I'm able to get my video capture back in use soon I can send out clips of one of them. I'm located in central KY (zip 42726) and if someone is nearby and would like to pick one up they can contact me to arrange a daytime meeting. These need to go soon so contact me quick so I can hold one for you. I prefer to get payment by money order but personal checks are fine if you don't mind wating an additional 8-10 days for it to clear.

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WD-1002-05

by edick＠idcomm.com

Yup, shure do! Dick -----Original Message----- From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, July 24, 1999 9:16 PM Subject: WD-1002-05 >Guys: > >Anybody have the docs for this? >I know it is a combination floppy/harddisk >controller, but I need some particulars . . . > >Thanks. > >Jeff > > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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Qualstar 1052 info?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I picked up a Qualstar 1052 9-track drive at a hamfest this morning. Has >anyone used one of these? What interface is it? Two 50-pin edge connectors (Pertec Formatted)? A SCSI 50-pin connector? Something else? >Do I have any hope of using it to read old RSTS, VMS and MUMPS-11 tapes? Sure, with the right controller/host adapter. What sort of system do you want to put the drive on? -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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Epson I and II+ available

by pwhiting＠imt.net

Hi folks, Am new to this list, hope I post this msg correctly. I have two working Epson computers, a I (an 8088) and a II+ (a 286). Both have hard drives, I believe a 20 and a 40, respectively. I have original OS disks, manuals, etc. They are solidly built, classics (I guess they meet that definition!) and I got them cuz I thought Epson printers were so well-built (still have an MX80, btw, maybe someone wants that). Turns out the Epson computers were not 100% IBM compatible, they had some proprietary features as in the keyboard, floppy controllers I think, and maybe a couple of other items. I cut my computer teeth on these guys, and miss the days when you could get under the hood of a computer and fix 'em yourself! Anyway, I've been advised to chuck 'em in the alley but I really hate to do that. Would like to find 'em a good home. Are they worth anything to anyone, and if so how much? I will trust the fairness of the group here in establishing their worth... maybe they're not worth that much, but they'd be a pain to pack. I don't have the original cartons :( but maybe someone would pay what it would cost me to dump 'em (gently) on the counter at the local MailBox and say to the guy "pack 'em up". TIA! ... Paul -------------------------- Paul Whiting Full Circle Communications Billings, MT

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DECpc 433 workstation/any documentation on this?

by cdrmool＠interlog.com

I found the above box recently and would like to get it up. Can anyone help me with info on this? The ram has been pulled as has the cpu so I need to know what its chip settup was. Seems to be Intel stuff otherwise. There are numerous adds on the net re; ram for this but virtually no other info. Other than that, the information I've collected is that it ran off of Dos (!?!) and was used in a token ring. Interesting layout inside. I also need to know if there was anything special about the floppy drive as I'd need to replace that as well. Last, is there anyway to rig a harddrive into one of these? TIA colan ____________________________________________________________________ Vintage Computer Collectors List and Info: http://members.xoom.com/T3C Mail us at: T3C(a)xoommail.com

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Altair speech synthesizer card by AICS :: anyone have one?

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, I'm looking to find a speech synthesizer card for the Altair, built in 1975 or 1976 by AICS (Artificially Intelligent Cybernetic Systems), in Las Cruces, New Mexico). If you have one, even if you want to keep it, please drop me a line. thanks, Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com

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WD-1002-05

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Guys: Anybody have the docs for this? I know it is a combination floppy/harddisk controller, but I need some particulars . . . Thanks. Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

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mailing list

by pwhiting＠imt.net

Do you have a mailing list for classic computers, and if so, may I subscribe to it? Please send instructions... Thank you! ... Paul Whiting -------------------------- Paul Whiting Full Circle Communications Billings, MT

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hp2100 memory problems

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

Anyone on the list familiar with the memory subsystem on HP 2100s? I'm getting parity errors on both 2100s. Each one has 32k, so my idea was to switch to an 8k configuration, swapping till I isolate which boards are bad. The CE goldbook talks about this a small amount, but even with that info all eight 8K boards appear bad. I find this hard to believe, so I must be doing something wrong. Can anyone help??? Jay West

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New Acquisitions! (HP2000)

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

You're right, it's a 4070. Any clue how to tell if it really is serial vs. parallel? Thanks! jay West -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 6:52 PM Subject: Re: New Acquisitions! (HP2000) >> A Facit RS-232 paper tape punch (don't recall the model offhand, but it's >> rackmount) > >Probably 4070s. They are used on just about all old minis... > >Are you sure they're RS232, though. There is an RS232 interface for the >4070, but it's not common. Most of them have a parallel interface also on >a DB25-S connector. It's close to Centronics, but some of the signals are >inverted. > >-tony > >

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Garage sale coming up!

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Yeppers, it's time for me to clean out my garage now. August 28th/29th, 12641 SE 277th Place in Kent, WA. I expect to be clearing out a bunch of computer and electronics stuff, including some DSD-880s, various parts, DECish boards, PC stuff, etc. If you're looking for something specific, drop me a note. Other than that, drop by from 10-16:00 and see what you can find. Thanks much, and hope to see you there. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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of interest to linux users/prospective users

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/24/99 9:45:16 AM US Eastern Standard Time, rhblake(a)bigfoot.com writes: > http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/elect/9904EFCOCP.html > > for those of us who are too lazy to open up a browser session, can you tell us what it's all about?

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by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/elect/9904EFCOCP.html

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OS/2 (Was: New Finds)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<complete (Templates, for example). I have also briefly seen OS/2 3.0 Warp, <which ran faster, IIRC, but again, I didn't develop a liking for it. I have that kit and I can't use it on the 286 laptop, requires 386 minimum. It does run real well on one of my 386/25s, screams on a 486dx2/66. What I've found though is some of the drivers are slow and if you have some oddball hardware it's not a good match. I've seen a PS/2m50z running 2.0 and I was impressed. Then again I've seen dos run poorly on machines due to configuration errors. Allison

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Small SCSI drives

by peter.pachla＠vectrex.freeserve.co.uk

Hi, >....The problem with apple/Mac drives is that the are still very >much in use and generally the owners want too much because >they are Apple branded/certifed.... Actually....does anyone here in the UK have an 80Mb Apple branded hard drive they'd be willing to part with (it's a Quantum LPS80 with Apple ROM) or could anyone anywhere possibly send me a ROM image of the ROM from said drive; I've got a drive with a bad ROM which I desperately need to fix and/or replace (preferably fix as I need to retrieve the data from it)? Could also do with a 1 or 2Gb SCSI drive, the usual vendors at radio rallies etc want silly money for them considering the cost of new 4/8/bigger drives these days.... :-( TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)virgin.net | peter.pachla(a)vectrex.freeserve.co.uk | peter.pachla(a)wintermute.free-online.co.uk | www.wintermute.free-online.co.uk --

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New Finds

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Hi all, Jackpot system for the week. Hyundai Super-lt3, a 286 laptop. Neighbor put it out for garbage, works, with adaptor and the battery is even good. I consider this at the hairy edge of classic but it's a useful tool. I plan to replace the 21mb drive with a spare 80mb and use it hard. Oh for those neighsayers. I took out the company W3.1 floppy set and installed it, it doesn't scream as it's only a 10mhz 1mb system but I did it for laughs. Later I'll install Minix, CCPM, OS2, DR-dos anything but MSdos. Allison

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New Acquisitions! (HP2000)

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

I just added the following HP stuff to my collection! Looks like I'll be spending a fair amount of time testing all this stuff out! 2100A cpu, fully decked out with all options (32K core, dma) 2100S cpu, fully decked out with all options (32K core, dma, FPP, FFP) 13037C rackmount disk controller (with interface PCA, controls both MAC AND HP-IB drives)! Two 2748B paper tape readers A Facit RS-232 paper tape punch (don't recall the model offhand, but it's rackmount) A bevy of I/O cards, including the following: Two 12920B Async. Mux controllers (two 3 card sets) Two 12597 8-bit duplex register cards (for the paper tape readers) CPU interconnect kit (actually four 12566 cards, two for each machine) Two 12539 time base generators Two 12531D high speed terminal interfaces One 13210 disc interface for 7900A drives (two card set) One 13183 Mag Tape interface for the HP 7970E drive (two card set) Tons of cables, rackmount brackets, documentation, etc. A 7900A disc cartridge containing the complete HP diagnostic library A box of various paper tapes, including the load tapes for Timeshare Basic (2000E) The load tape for Timeshare Basic (2000 Access, 1600bpi magtape for 2100) The load tape for Timeshare Basic (2000 Access, 1600bpi magtape for 21MX) A carrier tray with the special IOP roms for 2000 Access Maybe there *IS* hope for getting an HP timeshare basic system up and running! Jay West

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RK05J blower motor

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

Hi all, the blower motor in one of my RK05J disk drives (DEC PDP-11/34a system) burned out. I would like to obtain (buy/trade/anything) a replacement, either the motor or the entire blower assembly. Of course, if you have a RK05J where the motor could be salvaged from I would be happy to do the removel. Part numbers are DIGITAL BCO8R-01 UA Rev. M ECO 007 MFG.N.S. 733 Motor is KOOLTRONIC, Inc., No. 7162-0407 115 V 60 Hz 0.47 A U.L. File No. E 40513 Type U62 3000 rpm By the way, Kooltronic still exists but they do not have any stock left. In the shops you find lots of 1560 rpm motors, but no 3000 rpm. Thanks and regards John G. Zabolitzky Munich, Germany

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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<>I did it for laughs. Later I'll install Minix, CCPM, OS2, DR-dos anythin <>but MSdos. < <Which version of OS2 would run well on that thing? OS/2 2.0 doesn't run <well on a pentium... I have 3.0, so that's what I'd try. The comment was anything but MS! However, I have run 4.0 OS/2warp on a p166 and it was pretty nice compared to W95. 2.0 would run poorly on Pentium as it's 16bit code and the pent is far from optimum in that mode. What I need to find for the Hyundai is there are 8 switches near the handle in the front... what do they do??? Allison

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Small SCSI drives

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/23/99 9:33:56 AM EST, ckaiser(a)oa.ptloma.edu writes: << does anyone out there have any old SCSI drives they might be persuaded to part with? Like I say, the capacity doesn't have to be "large". >> We've got a junk bin full of good 50MB-100MB SCSI drives which you (or anyone else on the list) can have (all or part) for the shipping. Glen Goodwin 0/0

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by ckaiser＠oa.ptloma.edu

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Windows/286

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi all, I found an original MS disk today labled Windows/286. It says that it contains Setup, Build and Displays 1. Does anyone know how many disks are supposed to be in this set? I was thinking of installing it on one of my old 286 systems just out of curiousity. Joe

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RK05J blower motor

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

In einer eMail vom 7/23/99 1:56:25PM, schreiben Sie: << Could a local electric shop rebuild the motor for you? (Assuming a replacement is not in prospect) >> Of course that would be possible; however, that would be quite some expense since it involves a lot of manual labour, very expensive here in Germany ! John

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Large inventory of transputer parts for sale!!!

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/22/99 9:57:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, allisonp(a)world.std.com writes: > Despite all this my knowledge of what a transputer is hasn't greatly > improved. It would be interesting to have a discussion as to it's > archetecture and all. > > Allison I agree. Can those of you who are intimate with this hardware please enlighten those of us who are not? This stuff sounds pretty cool but without more information it's rather hard to tell . . . Glen Goodwin 0/0

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Computers using a TV as the display

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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New Finds

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/22/99 9:36:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time, allisonp(a)world.std.com writes: > <os/2 version 1.3 requires at least 2 meg when configured for dos and native > <apps. i'd suggest 2.0 or higher since it has the workplace shell. if you > <can't get os/2 running well on a pentium, you're not doing something right. > > Well in my case it's a 286/10 with 1mb ram if it needs more I'm cooked. > But there is Minix, DR-dos, CCPM to try. what about that GEOS/newdeal app? its not really an os, its more like a shell like win3.1 but runs on old machines and would give you a GUI.

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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<os/2 version 1.3 requires at least 2 meg when configured for dos and native <apps. i'd suggest 2.0 or higher since it has the workplace shell. if you <can't get os/2 running well on a pentium, you're not doing something right. Well in my case it's a 286/10 with 1mb ram if it needs more I'm cooked. But there is Minix, DR-dos, CCPM to try.

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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

os/2 version 1.3 requires at least 2 meg when configured for dos and native apps. i'd suggest 2.0 or higher since it has the workplace shell. if you can't get os/2 running well on a pentium, you're not doing something right. In a message dated 7/22/99 7:25:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time, max82(a)surfree.com writes: > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Allison J Parent wrote: > >I did it for laughs. Later I'll install Minix, CCPM, OS2, DR-dos anything > >but MSdos. > > Which version of OS2 would run well on that thing? OS/2 2.0 doesn't run > well on a pentium... > > --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)

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First laptop?

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

No. Byte Magazine first used the term "laptop" in reference to a production computer, after viewing the Epson HX-20 at a trade show in November 1981. The Model 100 came out in March 1983. Kai -----Original Message----- From: Max Eskin [mailto:max82@surfree.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 2:54 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: First laptop? Hi, I walked into Radio Shack today, and was delighted to see a row of posters on their wall with photos of old Radio Shack stores and equipment from the beginning of the chain to now. They mentioned that the TRS Model 100 was 'the first laptop in the industry'. Is this even marginally true? --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com) http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power

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Inventory Liquidation Update

by max82＠surfree.com

Hi, All of the stuff as of today, thursday 7/22, is all sold. Thanks for your quick response. I will be away for two weeks, and will unsubscribe from the list for that time. --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com) http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power

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