- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by aek＠spies.com

"> I just acquired Microsoft 8K basic in ROM for OSI on paper > tape. Tim Shoppa mentioned having some early MS source on AFC. What exactly do you have, Tim? " On a related note, I've got source code here to some (many? most?) of the early Microsoft products - you know, things like MBASIC, etc., that say at the top: .TITLE BASIC Mpu 8080/8085/Z80/8086 (5.11) Bill Gates/Paul Allen INCLUDE BASIC.MAC ;SUBTTL VERSION 5.11 -- NOT MANY FEATURES TO GO ;COPYRIGHT 1975 BILL GATES AND PAUL ALLEN ;BILL GATES WROTE A LOT OF STUFF ;PAUL ALLEN WROTE OTHER STUFF AND FAST CODE ;MONTE DAVIDOFF WROTE THE MATH PACKAGE ;ORIGINALLY WRITTEN ON THE PDP-10 FROM ;FEBRUARY 9 TO APRIL 9 1975 "

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Source code for BASIC

by edick＠idcomm.com

Though I could have missed it, I don't recall that it is/was ever the policy of Microsoft, through any of its customers, to distribute the source of its BASIC compiler. That would be a really handy thing to have, since one could then hack it into shape for embedded use, thereby competing with Microsoft's own products. If anyone has SOURCE code for Microsoft's BASIC interpreter, I'd be very interested to know about it. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sudbrink <bill(a)chipware.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: RE: Source code for BASIC >I just acquired Microsoft 8K basic in ROM for OSI on paper >tape. I currently have no facility to read it, so I don't >know if it is source or object. The tape seems to be in >good shape (doesn't seem to be fragile) so it should be >good for a few passes through a reader. I'll let you know. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Richard A. Cini, >> Jr. >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:43 PM >> To: ClassCompList >> Subject: Source code for BASIC >> >> >> Here's another question...does anyone have a pointer to the >> source code for >> a 6502-based BASIC interpreter that's ROMable? >> >> Rich >> >> [ Rich Cini/WUGNET >> [ ClubWin!/CW1 >> [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking >> [ Collector of "classic" computers >> [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ >> <================ reply separator =================> >> >> >>

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Harddisk DEC DSP3210S

by hofer＠wgh.ch

Hello, I am looking for technical information about a SCSI harddisk DEC DSP3210S. Does anyone have some details about jumper settings, capacity and other specifications ? Thanks in advance. Regards. -- Jean-Pierre Hofer hofer(a)wgh.ch _______________________________________________________________________ Appareils scientifiques Hofer / Wissenschaftliche Ger?te Hofer Case postale 3126 CH - 8021 Z?rich Phone + 41 1 251 07 31 Suisse / Switzerland E-mail wgh(a)wgh.ch _______________________________________________________________________

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virtual hamfest

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Hams, Howdy. I'm utterly inactive but I do actually have (had? I'd better check, may have expired) technician KB6UOH. My wife was listening to me struggling to work up to 5 WPM code, using our Mac Plus (am I on-topic now?) as a random code generator. She thought it sounded kind of neat, tried it out, and was doing 10 WPM in a few days. (grrrr!). On the way down to the test I taught her Ohm's law and a few frequencies and talked her into taking the test. She took clean code (and the volunteers there were begging her to try out the general code test) and squeaked by the multiple-choice stuff and got license KB6UOI (awww, how sweet, consecutive numbers...). Now if we'd just get a radio and get on the air..... - Mark

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HAM CCMP'ers

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

John Lawson <jpl15(a)netcom.com> wrote: > PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or > so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? Mike Cheponis <mac(a)Wireless.Com> wrote: > Isn't is amazing? Two trailing-edge hobbies: ham radio and collecting > old computers. Coincidence? ;-) Coincidence? Nah! It's due to an ionized packrat gene. Mike Thompson KA9JWZ (Technician), 1982 Commercial Radiotelephone License, 1970

26 years, 4 months

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TOUCH for DOS/Windows

by blakeman＠creative-net.net

Shareware.com has a Unix like set of DOS utils called DOSix available for free download at: http://shareware.cnet.com/shareware/0-13628-500-1259888.html?tag=st.sw.1616… Is there a DOS or Windows utility similar to the Unix TOUCH utility?? > >Rich >[ Rich Cini/WUGNET >[ ClubWin!/CW1 >[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking >[ Collector of "classic" computers >[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ ><================ reply separator =================> > > > >

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by wrm＠ccii.co.za

>PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or >so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? dahdidit dit dahdahdidah dididit didahdahdahdah dahdidah dit didahdidahdit dahdidah. :-) W

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DEC M7551 question

by dburrows＠netpath.net

I use them on 11/73's with all switches off. Dan Subject: DEC M7551 question >I recently acquired a DEC M7551 (4Mb memory) board for my 11/23+. I >installed the board, but the system traps while doing the power-on memory >test. Unfortunately, I don't have any documentation for the board and I'm >not sure if I have the jumpers/switches set correctly. It could be that the >board is just dead, but I'd like make sure before I give up. If someone >could forward me the settings, it would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Bill King

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Michael Grigoni -please read

by ernestls＠home.com

Hey, I tried to mail you an image of ATT Unix SVR2 foundation disk 1 but I keep getting "undeliverable" error messages. I emailed you once yesterday, and it seemed to go through OK but I'm not sure if it made it or not. I had to get creative with it. Is there a problem with your email? Send me an email and I'll try to "Reply" to it again, and see if it works. Also, with the Teledisk program and a zipped copy of the disk image, the email is about 500k. Is that a problem? Ernest

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Source code for BASIC

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> wrote: > I doubt, somehow, that you could classify what's in the ROMs in an ATARI or > COMMODORE as source code. No, but there's reverse-engineered source at ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/cbm/src/pet/basic.zip And it has already demonstrated to be ROMable. The problem is that any 6502 BASIC I have ever worked with is very hardware and firmware dependent. It is, however, a place to start. If this proves insufficient, I can probably dredge up some stuff off of an official C= Assembler disk I got from them in 1982 to develop for the C-64. I know there's some source code there; I forget what it covers. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 5 months

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OT: HTML question

by rcini＠msn.com

Hello, all: I'm not too familiar with HTML, but I'm guessing that this question is e asy to answer. What's the code to open a new browser window when someone clicks on a li nk? I want a new window to open with the requested page as the open document . Thanks. Rich [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW1 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ <================ reply separator =================>

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ham radio

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I do remember Dick Bash, KL7??? who started the whole licencing uproar. I think he finally got his tech licence pulled for some silly reason. Yes, I love them boat anchors too. Hollow state technology with the warm glow of filaments is so nostalgic. I personally will have a boat anchor station set up. Drake 2B and a Central Electronics 100V transmitter tied into a Johnson Desk Kilowatt. I heven have the Ranger exciter to run it as a KW plate modulated if necessary (now illegal). Yes, I do have rice boxes as well, but there is no challenge to those. But they are nice mobile. I challenge all of you out there to get a ham licence, no code or even the 5 wpm. The 5 wpm is no barrier -- anyone can learn that in a few weeks a couple nights a week. C U on the bands . . . Gary Hildebrand WA7KKP .__ ._ __... _._ _._ .__. ._. collector of old General Electric Progress Line radios and anything else that glows in the dark

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Source code for BASIC

by edick＠idcomm.com

I doubt, somehow, that you could classify what's in the ROMs in an ATARI or COMMODORE as source code. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Kaiser <ckaiser(a)oa.ptloma.edu> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: Re: Source code for BASIC >::Here's another question...does anyone have a pointer to the source code for >::a 6502-based BASIC interpreter that's ROMable? > >Why, look in every Commodore, Apple II, or Atari! :-P > >(But if that's unsatisfactory, I'd be interested, too.) > >-- >-------------------- personal page: http://calvin.flactem.com:3001/~spectre/ -- > Cameron Kaiser * Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)ptloma.edu >-- I used to miss my dad, but then my aim improved. ---------------------------

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ham radio?

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, fellow OM's yes, I are a ham too, but don't send the code stuff. Now that the FCC had deregulated things, the majority of hams will NOT know Morse Code. didididahdidah CB radio has now infiltrated our ranks -- but us scrungers live on in cyberspace, or is that at a virtual hamfest where people still build things . . . Gary Hildebrand WA7KKP licenced 32 years this June

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Maxtor xt8760 drives

by edick＠idcomm.com

That might be the case, except that my recollection of the "standard" MAXTOR drives were pretty much all 15 Mbit drives. Later they may have gone faster, though. My 4380's and 8760's are all 15 Mbit drives. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Maxtor xt8760 drives >At 18:54 15-02-2000 -0700, you wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Anybody here knows, what the difference is between the xt-8760E and >>xt-8760EF version ? > > I would guess that E is standard ESDI (10 MHz) and EF means 'Fast' (15 or >higher). > > Then again, that's a guess. Maybe someone else knows better...? > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies >http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com >Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 >"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our >own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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FCC licences

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello fellow hams and others, Besides having a ham licence, I also had a First Class Radiotelephone, until the FCC deregulated that as well back in 1985. Now it is just a General Radiotelephone licence, which is required only in a handful of circumstances. And then try to get one today!! The exam is given under a similar structure as the ham licence VEC program, but not the same. And it costs $100+ for an attempt. It's too bad the FCC ran short of money and had to curtail a lot of its activities. Now I just call then the Gettysburg Address. Gary Hildebrand

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 15, John Wilson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:12:57PM -0800, John Lawson wrote: > > PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or > > so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? > > I'll bet it's a pretty high percentage... Probably so. I'm formerly KA2UZK, expired, but hoping to re-test and renew this spring. -Dave McGuire

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ham radio?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:00:55 -0500 John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> writes: >Hmm, what was the name of that guy who decided that having a ham >license w/o bothering to learn anything first was some kind of god-given >right, so he started using the freedom of information act to find out the >answers to the FCC tests and published them in books? I hope something bad >happened to him by now... I think someone hit him with the Wouff-hong. Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> wrote: > Yes the restructure made code a requirement for general and extra only and > the tech is expanded. If I can pony up at least 5wpm I plan to go for the > general, if not the tech as I can pass the technical elements in my sleep > and the rules aren't all that bad. I'm personally looking forward to the new rules - I got a "know code" technician in 1992 and plan to bump myself up to at least general since I already have the 5 wpm. I'd been wanting to get a ticket for a while, my father was one in the '50s, but he let his lapse. The final straw was the depletion of the "N8" call sign - I got N8TVD, as I said earlier. My younger brother got N8YKN. AFAIK, techs around here get "KC8" calls now. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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HAM CCMP'ers

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

QRZ Jeff KH6JJN (GENERAL since 1977) On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:12:57 -0800 (PST) John Lawson <jpl15(a)netcom.com> writes: > PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or > so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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ASR-33 Question

by mrdos＠swbell.net

Does anyone know how to connect an ASR-33 Teletype to a DG Nova 2? Also, does anyone know the communications settings for the Nova 2? I have a ADM-3A Terminal, and according to a book that came with my Nova, my particular machine was host to one. Thanks, Owen

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Anyone Out There With a Sun 4/110?

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi Gang: The power supply in my Sun 4/110 is acting up. The problem appears to be with the line filter just ahead of the power supply proper. Anyone else have a 4/110 on the list? I'd like to correspond to try to fix the problem. Thanks, Kevin ========================================================== Sgt. Kevin McQuiggin, Vancouver Police Department E-Comm Project (604) 215-5095; Cell: (604) 868-0544 Email: mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca

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OT: HTML question

by rcini＠msn.com

Hello, all: I assure all of you that my intentions for an automatic window are honor able! No porno at all (although I hear that it's a lucrative site to run :-) ) Here's what I don't like. On my site, when you click the link for the My 6502 project, you wind up having two navigation columns on the left hand sid e. I think that it looks funny. So, I wanted to have that link open up in an other browser window. Thanks for the help. Rich [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW1 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ <================ reply separator =================>

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by KB9VU＠aol.com

--... ...-- Mike Stover, KB9VU CCA# 404 MARS AFA3BO Florissant, MO

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HAM CCMP'ers

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> Not Ham. Commercial Radiotelephone, used to do the two way radio racket < <So what did you do? Analog *and* digital, I'm impressed! Yes! I've worked on the first high speed mobile data terminal amoung other things. Try doing 3125baud in 1974 over a voice bandwidth channel (uhf repeater) with a CM2100 as the system for mobile rounting and comms. Back then the MOdat (motorola was running at 600baud and channel interference was killing transmissions before they ended). Built the repeater too mostly out of U44 and similar chassis with a pair of 4cx250s for final to get 1000 ERP from a 10db stationmaster on 474.975 (5mhz split). <I got the "general" radiotelephone ticket (used to be called "2nd class") o <the first testing day after they eliminated 1st class and changed the rule <(hmm, this would be early 1980s), but never got a radio job or otherwise I've had mine since '69, First with with televison and Microwave. I was a certified geek/nerd/techno way back when. Fired their mind at the fed as I wanted the Rt license and at my age (noxious HS kid) they figured I was a novice or maybe shooting for the ham. Had my father cheering me on as he had to sit the whole day. My mother though it highly inappropriate. <had any practical use for it. I was really proud of getting a low serial <as a result of the rule change, but then I was late renewing it and lost <the low #, went from PG-1-7 to PG-1-18665, I felt like such an idiot!!! Ouch. My number, PG-1-67xx, that replaced the older license number when they went to the for life system. Back in 73 almost signed on with a friends 85ft sloop that went to the Med as sparks. Captains signature on the back would have been a trip. It was something you do for fun as I was making more at work. Should have taken the ride. <Of course now they last for life anyway. The exam took me several tries t <pass, it was *much* harder than the ham exams. But I got lucky, even afte <the rules change the Boston FCC office was still using old tests (the one <finally passed was dated 1968) which covered tubes but not transistors, goo <thing because my books were old too and didn't cover transistors well at al It was tough. I studied for weeks to get ready and did all elements in one day (NYC federal building). I did use mine for the radio biz and when I applied to college it was part of the leverage I used to get some of the courses dropped. I figured that was worth most of the 17 credits I beat them out of. Back then the First was as close to certified tech or operating engineer as you could get and not have to go to school. I still carry the pocket card as I fly and thats my radio license as well. Allison

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<In response to the reply about hams not needing to know Morse code anymore <that is not correct except for the new Technician entry level class; all <others need only 5 WPM though. Yes the restructure made code a requirement for general and extra only and the tech is expanded. If I can pony up at least 5wpm I plan to go for the general, if not the tech as I can pass the technical elements in my sleep and the rules aren't all that bad. Allison

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HAM CCMP'ers

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> I got the "general" radiotelephone ticket (used to be called "2nd class") on > the first testing day after they eliminated 1st class and changed the rules > (hmm, this would be early 1980s), but never got a radio job or otherwise > had any practical use for it. I earned my first class license in 1975. Never got a job in the industry so, I let it lapse. Still have the certificate laying around here ... somewhere... Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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ham radio?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 15, Gary Hildebrand wrote: > yes, I are a ham too, but don't send the code stuff. Now that the FCC had > deregulated things, the majority of hams will NOT know Morse Code. Hey...all hope is not lost, there. I know *I* really enjoy CW; I can't imagine I'm the only one. It's fun, and that will never change! -Dave McGuire

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HAM CCMP'ers

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

I'm a ham, have been licenced since 1977. I'm VE7ZD, ex VE7CPT. Active on HF (CW, SSB, RTTY), VHF, UHF (FM, SSB, Moonbounce, packet, satellites). 73, Kevin

26 years, 5 months

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HAM CCMP'ers

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:12:57 -0800 (PST) John Lawson <jpl15(a)netcom.com> writes: > PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or > so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? 73 de Kees PB0AIA from JO21SK (That's the southern part of The Netherlands). Do I get a QSL card now? hi, or :-) confusing which symbols to use now! -- Kees Stravers - Geldrop, The Netherlands - kees.stravers(a)iae.nl http://www.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ My home page http://www.vaxarchive.org/ Info on old DEC VAX computers Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>John KB6SCO > > >PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or >so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? WB9DCX Dan

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- John Lawson <jpl15(a)netcom.com> wrote: > John KB6SCO > > > PS: How many Listmembers are also Hams? I know of at least ten or > so of us... dah-dit dah-dit dah dah dit-dah..... QRZ? Ethan Dicks - N8TVD -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 5 months

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Unibus Terminators available

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Got the following yesterday, and since I'm not in need of any he OK'd me sending this to the list. Please contact the original author, not me, if interested. Zane From: "J. Darren Peterson" <jdarren(a)ala.net> >I've got three PDP boards new (unopened) in box. The vendor label says >M9312 , but on each box that part number has been scratched through and >the number M9301 written over it. Either way, you can have them for the >cost of shipping if you want. Let me know. > >J. Darren | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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DEC M7551 question

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I recently acquired a DEC M7551 (4Mb memory) board for my 11/23+. I >installed the board, but the system traps while doing the power-on memory >test. Unfortunately, I don't have any documentation for the board and I'm >not sure if I have the jumpers/switches set correctly. It could be that the >board is just dead, but I'd like make sure before I give up. If someone >could forward me the settings, it would be greatly appreciated. Are you sure it's a 4 Mbyte (M7551-CA) board? If it's a 2 Mbyte (-BA) or a 1 Mbyte (-AA) board then it's very possible that it's jumpered for some other starting location than zero. And your CPU self-test is expecting memory starting at zero. If you can get to ODT ("@" prompt), try doing some examines of various locations, i.e. "0/", etc., and see if you get anything. If the board isn't responding at "0/", try higher addresses and see if it's living there. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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virtual hamfest was Re: couple of books, spring cleaning

by dogas＠leading.net

>Nah, gotta use the current buzzwords: eHamfest. The web page that becomes the front door to this eHamfest can dynamically scramble the anchors to each of the ventor pages kinda creating a random walk through the sales floor from our browsers... oops, nevermind ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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Western Digital WD 1002S-SHD card ???

by KB9VU＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/00 00:26:40 Central Standard Time, donm(a)cts.com writes: > > > > < I visited a surplus dealer today and picked up an external hard drive > > <case that he was throwing out. The case has a Seagate 225 drive in it with > > <some kind of Western Digital interface card. The card has MFM connection > o > > <one end and a 50 pin header on the other. The header is connected to a > > <cable that had a SCSI type plug on it. Does anyone know if the card is a > > <SCSI to MFM interface or what? > > > > Well St225 is MFM so the card is either a host to MFM bridge or SCSI(SASI) > > to MFM bridge. > > > > The real answer is a part number on the card like WD1002-HDO (host > interface > > number). Someone else may be able to confrm if the SHD is SASI or at that > > > time early SCSI. > > TheRef45A says that it is SASI to ST-412. > > - don > Most of the early Heath/Zenith Hard Drive set ups manufactured by after market suppliers used the XEBEC controllers on the hard drives and interfaced to an SCSI card in the computer. The 50 pin female header connected to a 50 pin male header on the SCSI card in my H-89's. There were other schemes, one involving a Western Digital PC controller mounted on the ST-225 and an interface decoder card on the left buss in the H-89. I would bet that the HD described was interfaced to an SCSI card though. Just my .02 worth. YMMV Mike

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DEC M7551 question

by wrking＠tsoft.com

I recently acquired a DEC M7551 (4Mb memory) board for my 11/23+. I installed the board, but the system traps while doing the power-on memory test. Unfortunately, I don't have any documentation for the board and I'm not sure if I have the jumpers/switches set correctly. It could be that the board is just dead, but I'd like make sure before I give up. If someone could forward me the settings, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill King

26 years, 5 months

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dumpster diving and other sources of goodies

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, ladies and gents out there I have found good stuff in the dollar bin at Computer Renaissance: 2 working monitors for my Amiga and a Tandberg 525meg tape backup Price: $1.00 per And I don't get dirty or smelly in the process. And I also recommend going to hamfests -- amateur radio fleamarkets. Quite a few guys get this stuff and try to peddle it for a couple bucks. My favorite line is -- How badly do you want to take this boatanchor home?? At one hamfest I found 19 used DSDD 3.5" drives for $30. These are the standard Amiga drive, but useless anywhere else. Get snooping out there -- the used market is drying up fast due to the low low cost of new stuff. Gary Hildebrand Amigaphile WA7KKP scrounger 1st Class

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OT: HTML question

by blakeman＠creative-net.net

Not too sre as I don't memorize but there is acrapload of info and ideas up at http://www.htmlhelp.com that you might be interested in. Opening another window >from that one huh? Sounds like you're building a porno site (grin) >Hello, all: > > I'm not too familiar with HTML, but I'm guessing that this question is e >asy to answer. > > What's the code to open a new browser window when someone clicks on a li >nk? I want a new window to open with the requested page as the open document >. > >Thanks. >Rich > >[ Rich Cini/WUGNET >[ ClubWin!/CW1 >[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking >[ Collector of "classic" computers >[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ ><================ reply separator =================> > > > >

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Western Digital WD 1002S-SHD card ???

by edick＠idcomm.com

This board is a SASI board made primarily to tap into the market grown around the XEBEC and OMTI boards. ADAPTEC somewhat later came out with a series (40xx) which later pretty much owned the market. They were all more or less similar, but none were "real" SCSI, in that (A) they didn't cave a firmly established common command set, and (b) they didn't use all of the soon-to-become-standard SCSI signals, certainly not entirely in the same way. By the time the standard was accepted, it was mostly the ADAPTEC feature set that won out. Nevertheless, Joe, you'll find that card can help you quite a little with putting a hard disk in place on your old CP/M systems. This can be helped along with a "back-end-driver" which installs itself under CP/M as an autocommand. This sits above the BIOS, hence uses a 2-k lower system than it would without it, but makes your SCSI hardware portable from one system to another. That's pretty handy in itself. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Western Digital WD 1002S-SHD card ??? > > >On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Allison J Parent wrote: > >> >> < I visited a surplus dealer today and picked up an external hard drive >> <case that he was throwing out. The case has a Seagate 225 drive in it with >> <some kind of Western Digital interface card. The card has MFM connection o >> <one end and a 50 pin header on the other. The header is connected to a >> <cable that had a SCSI type plug on it. Does anyone know if the card is a >> <SCSI to MFM interface or what? >> >> Well St225 is MFM so the card is either a host to MFM bridge or SCSI(SASI) >> to MFM bridge. >> >> The real answer is a part number on the card like WD1002-HDO (host interface >> number). Someone else may be able to confrm if the SHD is SASI or at that >> time early SCSI. > >TheRef45A says that it is SASI to ST-412. > > - don > >> Allison >> >> >

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DEC memory modules available

by thomas.h.lindberg＠se.abb.com

HI, I found four DEC memory modules in a lab drawer the other day. No markings that make sense to me but possibly to someone else: On the PCB side 1: Side 1 50-20612-01 Rev A01 LPWR BE3-0 On side 1 in screen print: 27391 6868-3 (placed in the order: LPWR 27391 BE3-0 6868-3) On the PCB side 2: Side 2 There are nine memory chips on each side, type HM514100AS8, plus a 74F541D. 4 Mbits per chip? 8 Mbyte plus parity per module? Dimension 111.81 mm * 28.00 mm Available for freight (from Sweden) plus what the receiver feel thay are worth. Thomas

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Western Digital WD 1002S-SHD card ???

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< I visited a surplus dealer today and picked up an external hard drive <case that he was throwing out. The case has a Seagate 225 drive in it with <some kind of Western Digital interface card. The card has MFM connection o <one end and a 50 pin header on the other. The header is connected to a <cable that had a SCSI type plug on it. Does anyone know if the card is a <SCSI to MFM interface or what? Well St225 is MFM so the card is either a host to MFM bridge or SCSI(SASI) to MFM bridge. The real answer is a part number on the card like WD1002-HDO (host interface number). Someone else may be able to confrm if the SHD is SASI or at that time early SCSI. Allison

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Finally!

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I finally scored a working TD Systems Viking QTD SCSI controller for Q-Bus. --Chuck

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(SOT) IBM 730T and PCMCIA hard drives

by rutledge＠cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com

(somewhat off topic... only 5 or 6 years old and a PC at that :-) Well as I mentioned in that screenphone thread I bought an IBM 730T. There are lots of them on ebay right now at prices which make me wish I'd not bought that ill-fated DTR-1. This is a tablet type pen-based computer which has 8 megs RAM built-in, 3 PCMCIA slots and 1 RAM card slot which collectively take up the space of 2 type-III slots. So if you put in a hard drive you have 1 type-II slot and 1 RAM slot free. (I don't know if the RAM slot is what is known as type-I, but the pins are arranged differently and it takes a DRAM card... I'm hoping those cards are interchangeable regardless of manufacturer but I'm not sure. IBM intended a 4 or 8 meg card to go in there.) When you turn it on, there is no BIOS setup screen that I have found, it just immediately proceeds to load DOS off the 105 meg hard drive that came with it. Mine came with nothing other than command.com loaded on it so I have no way of putting other software on right now. Floppies for them are rare and expensive. I tried borrowing a coworker's laptop last night to transfer software to the hard drive, but I couldn't make it show up in any of WinNT, FreeDOS or Linux. So I will have to either buy a floppy or a PCMCIA card drive for a desktop PC I guess. I want to try and put Linux on it and get X working with the pen. So if any of you have any of the following for sale or trade: PCMCIA hard drive with more of DOS installed so I can use intersvr at least or Linux a clever substitute for that PCMCIA slot for a PC floppy for the 730T other ideas on how I can try to install Linux ... let me know. I have quite a significant pile of junk^H^H^H^Htrading stock. Hmmm, matter of fact I think I'm going to go add a list of stuff to my home page right now because it's accumulating fast and I need to start losing some. I don't know even if I get Linux onto it, if the fact that DOS boots without any card services being installed, implies that Linux will also see the hard drive as an ordinary one or if I'm going to have to build a kernel that has the PCMCIA support compiled in rather than as modules. I'm beginning to wonder if the hard drive itself is special. Since there is no BIOS setup could I get it to boot from a different sized drive... and maybe also this accounts for why the hard drive didn't look normal to the other OS's. -- _______ http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud (_ | |_) ecloud(a)bigfoot.com finger rutledge(a)cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com __) | | \__________________________________________________________________

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Hamfests, Amiga Drives (was: Re: dumpster diving and other sources , of goodies

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "Charles P. Hobbs" <transit(a)primenet.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Gary Hildebrand wrote: > > At one hamfest I found 19 used DSDD 3.5" drives for $30. These are the > > standard Amiga drive, but useless anywhere else. > > Was that $30 for the *lot*? Geez, I've seen these drives go for $30 > *each*. . . That _is_ a good price if it was for the lot. If anyone is looking for a similar item, I have a box of Sony MP-F11W-72 drives, 720K DSDD 3.5" floppies for various Tandy boxes, including the Tandy 1000. One catch: they don't have a power connector. They draw power over the 34-pin data cable. Typically, floppies have grounds on the odd pins; this one scopes out thusly... 1 NC (uninstalled jumper at RJ1 (GND) and R1 (?)) 3 NC (uninstalled jumper at RJ3 (GND)) (FAQ claims +5VDC) 5-11 +5VDC 13-19 GND 29,31 NC (uninstalled jumper at RJ7 (GND)) (FAQ claims +12VDC) 33 NC (FAQ claims +12VDC) (cf. the Tandy 1000 FAQ - http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/1kfaq.html#II.C ) There is a space for a power connector, but it is not installed. If you feel like migrating a connector from a dead floppy, it's doable, but for non-Tandy use, a modified cable might be the better solution. I got these from the Dayton Hamfest in a "you want one, you take the box" deal from the local Radio Shack guys that used to have a great booth in the white tent in the corner of the flea market. I will never use more than one or two of them. Now's your chance to stock up on bizarre Tandy drives. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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Available in San Antonio, TX, moderately boring stuff.

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, At the Texas Thrift Store in San Antonio, loop 410 just south of Ingram, I found: AT&T 6300 and Xerox box - these two looked identical except different color schemes. Both $6.95, "as-is" and the Xerox says "works". Xerox claimed to be made in Italy, I didn't check AT&T. Apple IIGS - mmmm...$13.95? I didn't write it down. "as-is" Franklin Ace 100? - ... $6.95?? "as-is". All boxes were seperated from monitors, keyboards, cables, manuals, software - bare boxes only. I did not spot any such peripherals which looked at all related to any of the above, but didn't look very hard. If anyone is interested, email me offline and I'll buy, pack, ship, and let you know how much it cost to do all three. Hopefully, you'll then send me a check for that amount... - Mark PS are announcements like this of value to anyone? Should I continue them? Move them to the auction-announce list? Comments offline preferred, online OK if they are of general interest.

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AT&T Sequent. . .

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> On another list, a public library is considering disposing of the > following: "AT&T Sequent, WYSE terminals, router, bridges, hubs, printers, > UPS etc" and is interested in trying to determine the "value" of this > equipment. They're asking for a "bluebook" showing the values of old > computers and such (I don't think such a beast exists, but. .. ) More realistic than any single "bluebook" would be to call up dealers in such equipment and see what they're willing to offer. The classic place to begin such a search is in a long-standing minicomputer rag called _Processor_. They're mostly PC-clone ads these days, but they still have a few pages dedicated to DEC and Data General equipment, and there are certainly many outfits in there that'll be interested in quality (i.e. not PC-clone) terminals, network equipment, printers, etc. See http://www.processor.com/ for their on-line presence. It's expanding, though it's still not nearly as good as the actual printed edition. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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AT&T Sequent. . .

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/13/2000 9:26:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, transit(a)primenet.com writes: > er list, a public library is considering disposing of the > following: "AT&T Sequent, WYSE terminals, router, bridges, hubs, printers, > UPS , etc." and is interested in trying to determine the "value" of this > equipment. They're asking for a "bluebook" showing the values of old > computers and such (I don't think such a beast exists, but. .. ) > Actually there is a computer blue book. It might cover the Wyse terminals but it is more PC based. It has some mini stuff but I doubt the Sequent, routers, bridges UPS etc. Pawn shops use it to evaluate what they will loan on equipment. They are published by Orion Research Corp. in Durango Colorado. It is published yearly and cost about $150. It is actually blue colored. I could help evaluate it if they want to contact me off list. I suspect they would be shocked at the actual valuation. Of course it depends on the age of the equipment. It might be a candidate for a rescue though. Is anyone on the list running a Sequent. Paxton

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[CC] Looking for a 68k Macintosh software archive.

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

Can anybody direct me to one (or a few) good websites or ftp boards that have software for 68k-based Macs (one that has Smooth Talker, & a Stylewriter II driver would be nice). ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, Double FDD, GeoRam 512, Okimate 20. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. ____________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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IC question and hamfest finds

by dogas＠leading.net

-----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > ... Mike Haas came down from jacksonville and we went to the first day of >the Orlando hamfest. Mike scored big time! No less than 6 different TRS >computers. Several are like new and in their original boxs with all the >books. He also bought several other interesting toys! > It was fun! A boxed coco2 and mc-10, and letsee... a model 4, a model 1 L1, a model 1 L2, a Holmes Expansion Interface, 2 disks, a light pen, and ;) the plug&power controller with docs and cassette software. Non Radioshack stuff included a prettily outfitted Atari Portfolio, a Covox voice master again for the atari I hope, an Epson hx-20, and ;))) an Applied Microsystems diagnostic cpu emulator with a 6809 pod and documentation. I drove back down there later Sunday and didn't see anything more than I had on Friday, and am in some respects glad. This haul will take awile to assimilate.... Cheers! - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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