- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:22:01 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: > Good - That is the only one I have info on that is handy. Both > jumpers out (A&B) it will respond at CSR174420 vec164 The alternate add is CSR > 174400 CSR 160 with Jumper A installed. > I have had one for some time but have not taken the time to play with it. > It is SCSI but it responds at an RL add. Okay, so it emulates an RL-0x drive then. If you wanted to use an entire SCSI device as a single volume, though, you'd need a special driver for O/S you're using, right? Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by dburrows＠netpath.net

Good - That is the only one I have info on that is handy. Both jumpers out (A&B) it will respond at CSR174420 vec164 The alternate add is CSR 174400 CSR 160 with Jumper A installed. I have had one for some time but have not taken the time to play with it. It is SCSI but it responds at an RL add. Dan >The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . > >On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" ><dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >>Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >>They >>will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >>depends on >>the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >>Dan

26 years, 4 months

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How many Vaxes?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net> wrote: > My modest home collection: > MicroVaxII, BA123. Trying to accumulate necessary parts for installation > of RA73s. Last summer I receieved a wad of SDI parts including at least one KDA-50, two RA70s and a front panel for the drives. I'm hoping to somehow stuff them into my BA123 for the uVAX-II. I plan to use this machine to begin to process my wad of 9-track tapes (at least the 1600bpi ones - I do not own a 6250 bpi drive) > My VAX population will soon take a drastic decrease as I just don't > have the time to devote to hobby. With change of season, time-on-hobby > will decrease further as time-on-tractor increases. I heard that. I have a 1949 Ford 8N, myself. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 4 months

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I found an HP150 (model 45851A?)--how do I make it work?

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Hi Kevin, >....I picked up a lot of cool stuff, but the real prize was an >HP model 45851A (I think) 'Touchscreen II,' a.k.a HP 150C. Nice find. >....But I don't think anyone in the company still has the disk >media. I can't imagine there being any other options besides >the HP version of MS-DOS that it shipped with.... I can send you a Teledisk image of the DOS disc if you need one. Other than that I have no software for the machine. Hardware options included several different RAM boards, one with built in HP-IL interface, various floppy/hard drive units and the touch screen itself (I've NEVER seen a machine with the touch screen BTW). Do you have some form of drive unit for the machine? Without one all you have is a dumb terminal.... TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

26 years, 4 months

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VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

For those of you who might be planning a more extended trip to Germany: There is also an International Conference on the History of Computing Heinz Nixdorf Museums-Forum, Paderborn, Germany April 5-7 http://www.hnf.de/ICHC2000/ which will focus on Mapping the History of Computing: Software Issues We surely could also provide a list of other interesting classiccmp-style places to visit, if there were any interest ... just to keep anyone busy during April. John G. Zabolitzky Munich, Germany

26 years, 4 months

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Sams Photofacts (Was: Re: Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> wrote: > BTW, do Sams Photofacts still exist, and if so can they be ordered on-line? > Our old VCR has been getting picky about what channels it will and won't > receive, but I'm probably too dense to repair a tuner even *with* schematics, > let alone without. But the only real electronics shop in the area can't get > Photofacts any more... I honestly don't know it they do exist anymore, haven't had a need in years. The last time I saw a current Photofact, it was nothing more than a reprint of the manufacturer's material. It was not the Photofacts of old so I just sort of forgot about them. I think I bought my last one aroung 1976. It so happens that my first electronics job was with Sams PhotoFacts. That was about 30 years ago. At that time they actually acquired one of each model and tore it down to produce the photos and schematics. My job consisted of unpacking the TV, then setting it up with a mess of sensors attached to critical components to measure various parameters. I also disassembled the TV and wrote the disassembly instructions, did the chassis overview drawing, and chassis overview photos calling out the major controls and components. After that the cabinet and CRT were stored and the chassis sent down the 'line' for schematics to be drawn and parts lists produced. That process took 6-8 weeks. The fun part was after that, the set had to be reassembled and restored to working order. During the time on the line, the chassis would be handled by dozens, dropped, kicked, spilled on, and who knows what else. It was a nightmare sometimes to get a set working again, but I learned a lot. Fortunately, it was not my job to reassemble all of them, just something we all did when lacking for something to do or in need of a change. Some of the perks were nice, like a free subscription to Photofact of the Month. The was a file room where 50 or so copies of each individual Photofact were archived. You were free to go there and pull anything you needed. If it was not there, then tell the secretary and she would order it from other archives. One time I needed a Photofact for what at the time was considered an antique radio. I told the secretary and the next day she brought the complete folder, #47 as I recall. I have long since forgot the original issue date on that one. The other neat thing was the quarterly employee book sale. Needless to say, I have my share of Sams books, the paperbacks all bought for a quarter each. It pained me in later years to have to pay full price. I remember even back then that they were cutting back there 'coverage' of things like clock radios and the less expensive TV's. I guess you can call it the dawn of the age of 'discarding'. So I have to wonder what kind of coverage they provided for VCR's. Forgive me, John (et al), for not really answering your question. I had not even though about Sams in years and your posting prompted me to share. Excuse the rambling about old times. Mike

26 years, 4 months

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HP9114B battery pack

by cem14＠cornell.edu

I know, bad form to reply to my own post, but I just discovered that my brain was fried last night :-) At 12:59 AM 02/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>However, it appears that 3 off 2.5Ah Cyclon cells would fit in the >>housing. Has this ever been tried, and does the HP charger PCB charge >>these correctly without damage? > >The 1.5 V difference is big enough that the charger may actually >damage them. Low duty lead-acid batteries are supposed >to be charged using constant voltage (with initial current limiting, >one amp for the ones in question). For standby use the charging >voltage for these is 6.9V; for cycle use the charging voltage >is 7.3V . Both are way too high for a 4.5V nominal pack. And >I think that 4.5V is probably too low for the hp9114. It should work -- 3 cyclon cells = 6V, the required nominal voltage. But I would still try to get the LCR062R4PU's. Carlos.

26 years, 4 months

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IBM 3363 optical drive Technical Reference Manual wanted

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> As the subject says, I would like to get hold of a Technical Reference Manual > for the IBM 3363 WORM drive. > > Any ideas where I might find one? (And an ISA adapter card for the 3363 too.) I thought I had this manual, but alas, no luck. What I have is the Guide to Operations. A pretty lusing manual, all told, but there is some useful info to be gleaned, like the switch settings for the ISA card. (I don't have the card - sorry). The manual also comes with about half a dozen disks of drivers and software - I think it's Drivers for ISA on 5.25 in; drivers for ISA on 3.5 in; and drivers for microchannel on 3.5in - two disks each or thereabouts. Details of the utility programs can be found in the manual. I haven't read it in detail, so I don't know how good an API you get with this. If you want this, shipping to USA is between 8 and 9 dollars (haven't got an exact figure - I just shoved the manual and one Jiffy bag on the scales in the post room), so I'll send it for $10 US. If you are not as far away from the UK as that, or want me to send it without the binder (a shame, since this is original and in good condition), the price can come down. Please e-mail me privately if you want this, and we can exchange addresses, etc. Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

26 years, 4 months

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VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by dastar＠siconic.com

I'm very proud to announce the first version of the Vintage Computer Festival in Europe! VCF 1.0e is scheduled for April 29-30 in Munich, Germany. Our beloved Hans Franke is the primary organizer of the event. I will be attending the event as well so I look forward to (hopefully) meeting a lot of you European computer collectors. The initial web site for VCF 1.0e is up but is currently only implemented in German. Complain to Hans. http://www.vintage.org/europa I hope Hans will find the time in his busy schedule to translate the site to about 7 other languages, but maybe someone can help him out. I think you silly Europeans should just adopt English already but I guess that's a flame war waiting to explode so I won't say anything (ooops :) Please send all flames and offers of assistance to Hans Franke at <hans.franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>. Unfortunately I know little about the event with regards to location, admission, etc. Hans has been doing all of the organization and we haven't been coordinating very well. All that information is on the website but I can't read much German yet unfortunately. My end of the bargain is to learn German fluently enough to give a 45 minute talk at the event. So at some point I should be able to read the pages. For now I remain an Ugly American. Oh well. I hope to see you there! It will be a BLAST! Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 4 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >They >will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >depends on >the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >Dan >-----Original Message----- >From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:36 PM >Subject: T.D. Systems TDL-12 > > >> >>Guys: >> >>Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a >>Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? >> >>Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 4 months

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IBM 4381 Avbl in South Australia

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Anyone able to tell me something about this type of system? It's about 300 miles north of me, and I'm considering submitting a tender for it. Some idea of it's value, probably as scrap (since that's who I'd probably be bidding against) would be good. FWIW, I personally feel it is historically significant in view of the job it did and worthy of preservation. The system is from the (now closed) Joint US/Australian Space Defense facility at Nurrungar, near Woomera. ('Way out in the desert of northern South Australia.) The entire place is up for sale by tender, houses, buildings, radomes, dishes, power & AC plant etc - plus the IBM Mainframe that did all the data processing. Quote: "The Data Reduction Centre used the IBM 4381 Computer System to process and record infrared data detected by satellite and transmitted by the Satellite Tracking Station (SRS). The raw Satellite data was relayed through a variety of computers and electronic equipment and finally to the DRC's IBM 4381 mainframe computers. The mainframe computers each had dual processors: a support processor and an instruction processor. The processors filtered out any spurious data by comparing the data against pre programmed event criteria. Data that were not needed were discardedwhile data that met certain criteria were formatted and sent to the SOC for further evaluation, this time by human beings." End quote. There are numerous pics of the the system at:- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/usaf_ibm_4381/index.htm If you click on one of the thumbnails it will show a large version of the pic with a next button to go through all of them. If you want to see the other stuff that's on offer take a look at :- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/index.html Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au ICQ #: 1970476

26 years, 4 months

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Amiga and BSD o/s

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> wrote: > Hello, all you guys out there > > I'm wanting to try out one (or both) of Open BSD and NetBSD on my lil' ol' > Amiga -- I really need someone who has gone through the teething process of > formatting drives and instaling necessary files, etc. I haven't installed either on an Amiga myself, but I would recommend Open BSD (http://www.openbsd.org/amiga.html) for one important reason: drivers for my card, the GG2 Bus+ Zorro-to-ISA bridge, are included! Completely self- serving, I know, but there it is. For the curious Amiga owner, the GG2 Bus+ web page is at http://penguincentral.com/GG2/ -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 4 months

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Top 10: Best laptop keyboard

by allisonp＠world.std.com

=:The VT100 keyboard mechanism was used on all sorts of machines (or =: =:VT100 =:Some HP terminals =:TRS-80 Model 1 (older version keyboard) =:Zenith/Heathkit Z19/H88/H89/Z90 =:TI 99/4a (I think) Yes on the TI99/4a Also kaypro, some not all I have two different keyboards. NS* advantage Haziltine 1500 and 1400 series. and like you said a who raft of others. Allison

26 years, 4 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by dburrows＠netpath.net

Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. They will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all depends on the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. Dan -----Original Message----- From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: T.D. Systems TDL-12 > >Guys: > >Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a >Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? > >Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? > > > >Thanks! > > >Jeff >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 4 months

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How many Vaxes?

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Kolb <daniel.kolb(a)corpus-christi.oxford.ac.uk> To: <port-vax(a)netbsd.org> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2000 5:20 Subject: Re: How many Vaxes? > On a semi-related note, what sort of Vaxen do people on this list Ok here goes. At home. 1 Microvax II with 6mb & 85mb HDD TK50 running VMS 5.5 1 Microvax 3400 TK50 with 20Mb RAM, DSSI, SCSI, Pertec controller, no drives yet. 1 Vax 6000-430 TK70 256mb SCSI,DSSI,CI & SDI/STI & 6 x RA90's running VMS 6.2/UCX/DECNET etc. 1 HSC50 & Star Coupler (not in use - the 6k has a KDB50) 1 x TA78 (PSU faulty) 1 TU78 (Slaved from the TA78) 2 x TA79 (working - sometimes used on the 6430) 3 VS3100's 8mb RZ23's. 1 currently running cut down NetBSD. 1 Decstation 3100 with 32mb & 500mb drive (non-dec) running (sorta) NetBSD. 1 Vax 6000-260 with 64mb (not running anything yet) couple of partly dismembered 6000 cabinets for spares etc. 1 6000-320 minus ram and most of the cards (they're all in the 430) and a faulty 5v supply. (To be fixed later) 1 Microvax 2000 in bits not going. (Might be ok when I put it together) 1 Decmate in bits not going. (Floppy Drives u/s it seems) 16 RA70's in 4 x SA70 enclosures. Sa550 Cabinet(s) 1 Vax 8530 20mb ram - with CIBCI cabinet & Pro380 console. (Would be going, but I lack the console to Vax cable) At work 1 Vax 6000-440 TK70 256mb 3 x RA72 5 x RA70 6 x RA92 served from HSC70. 1 SCSI cd on a CMD controller 1 x TU81+ Running VMS6.0, Vaxcluster, Multinet 3.2 Rev B, MX Mail 5.1, IUPOP3, WASD Web/Proxy Server, Madgoat FTP. 1 VS4000-90 32Mb RAM numerous SCSI drives & Sony CDROM. 2.88 mb FDD. VMS 6.2 & UCX + Vaxcluster. (The 4000-90 is actually mine, I just use it at work) Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au ICQ #: 1970476

26 years, 4 months

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Schematic capture/PCB design software

by edick＠idcomm.com

IIRC there's a free/demo package from IVEX that might do, though I don't know whether it's time limited or not. I am unfamiliar with it because I felt that it was missing about 99.99% of the library component symbols and models I expected to see. It's not missing too much from their viewpoint, but The first five or six components I tried to use in their demo software were absent, so I ditched it. I'm not even sure that IVEX isn't the vendor of the Windraft, etc packages which I seem to recall it is, but they seem to reflect the same problems. There's a PD add-on for AutoCad, which isn't free, that is claimed to work well, though I haven't tried it. What I use for the bread-and-butter stuff myself is the classic DOS-based OrCAD v3.22 which works, I find, much better than the more recent GUI-based versions. OrCAD has recently come out with a schematic capture package for which there is supposed to be a route editor as well, accessible over the web only. That might meet your short-term needs. If you like the EAGLE stuff well enough, it's not terribly expensive, and certainly costs in the range from 1..10% of what the OrCAD which does from 1..10% of Eagle will do, costs. If you plan to integratge shcematic capture and PCB routing with other packages, you should look at VIEWLOGIC despite its higher cost, because it's the package now most-used to support entry on the low-cost CPLD/FPGA verndors' software. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Peter Pachla <peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk> To: Classic Computer <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Schematic capture/PCB design software >Sometime last month there was a discussion here about members' preferred PCB >layout software - most of which I appear to have missed thanks to my ISP >having problems.... > >Anyway, what came of that discussion and what were the recommendations for a >good free package? > > >Personally I've been using the DOS based "Easy PCB" for about 10 years now >(does that make this on topic? <grin>) but would "prefer" to switch to a >Win95 based package since I don't have a Linux box up and running yet. I've >got "Eagle CAD v3.55r3" which is great, but the limitation on board size >makes it impossible for me to use it for the project I'm playing with at the >moment. :-( > > > TTFN - Pete. > >-- >Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. >Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) > >peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk >-- > > >

26 years, 4 months

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Schematic capture/PCB design software

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Sometime last month there was a discussion here about members' preferred PCB layout software - most of which I appear to have missed thanks to my ISP having problems.... Anyway, what came of that discussion and what were the recommendations for a good free package? Personally I've been using the DOS based "Easy PCB" for about 10 years now (does that make this on topic? <grin>) but would "prefer" to switch to a Win95 based package since I don't have a Linux box up and running yet. I've got "Eagle CAD v3.55r3" which is great, but the limitation on board size makes it impossible for me to use it for the project I'm playing with at the moment. :-( TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

26 years, 4 months

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Top 10: Best laptop keyboard

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> Here's a new discussion for ya': a top ten list of the best laptop > kayboards! I already know who's going to be number 1, but, just the same, > here are my picks for the list: OK, I'll be controversial. 1. Epson HX20 2. Tandy TRS-80 model 100 3.... I've never used any other laptops with decent keyboards. In fact, I've used very few pcs with decent keyboards. I have a PS/2 keyboard on my machine at work - it has followed me through at least three machines now... Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

26 years, 4 months

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Goodies

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

Just picked up some interesting goodies this weekend. How about a UNIVAC 1610 card punch station. Its in great shape and I think it'll work with a good degrunging. Also got a whole boatload of DEC manuals and handbooks including the original handbook for the classic 8 including a software reference and price list. I also received a VAXstation II that had a card by CMD in it. It may be wishful thinking but it has a 50 pin header on it with three resistor packs like a SCSI. The model is CQD-220/M. Anyone heard of this one? Brian.

26 years, 4 months

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Test/Machines available

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

This message is something of a test message since it appears my last few messages haven't made it through to the list. :-( Anyway, I've a few machines I want rid of: Apple II Europlus Apple //e Psion Organiser II, CM Available free or in exchange for any interesting DEC/HP or IBM PS/2 bits (I *NEED* case parts etc for a 9595 I'm trying to restore). I'm located in the UK (Birmingham) in case anyone doesn't already know. TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

26 years, 4 months

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Great finds today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Went to the local thrift and came away with the following: 1. Grid model 2260 without power supply and pen for $1 2. Vtech child see-through laptop with mouse for $5 3. A complete early model sega unit with lots of cartridges for $1 4 A box of 2600 cartridges for $1 5. A 7800 unit with cartridges for $1 6. A large box full of Mac software ( 11 boxes) for $1 7. A Mattel unit with lots of extras for $1 Those were the highlights the many other items will be list another day. Keep computing John

26 years, 4 months

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SVR4.0 'mdevice' file entry needed...

by msg＠waste.org

Greetings, Would those of you with access to a SysV R4.0 system (eg. SysV/386 R4.0) please inspect /etc/conf/cf.d/mdevice for the entry beginning with 'klm' and report the results to me? If you find it could you also grab the 'space.c' files in /etc/conf/pack.d/klm and /etc/conf/pack.d/nfs directories (very small files). We're trying to fix nfs on an old box and would really appreciate your help. Thanks, Michael Grigoni Cybertheque Museum

26 years, 4 months

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Keyboards / Simon relay computer?

by kla＠helios.augustana.edu

A quick statement and a question: (1) I seem to recall that the keyboard used on the original Kaypro luggable computer was labeled as the "IBM Selectric" keyboard. I had been a user of the IBM Selectric typewriter at the time of using my first Kaypro computer, and recall the look and feel to be identical (or at least similar enough) in the key shapes and layout. When you folks mention the VT100 keyboard, you are talking about a different animal, right? (Also a nice keyboard....) (2) Would someone please repost the URL for the Simon relay computer. Thanks. Cheers. Kevin Anderson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kevin L. Anderson Ph.D., Geography Department, Augustana College Rock Island, Illinois 61201-2296, USA phone: (309) 794-7325 e-mail: kla(a)helios.augustana.edu -or- gganderson(a)augustana.edu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent the administration of Augustana College.

26 years, 4 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Guys: Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 4 months

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MPE Update was "Stuff to trade"

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> > An HD for my HP3000 that will fit in the bottom rack space. I've gotten > some great info from Joe Rigdon on models and have my eyes open; I need > something big enough so that I can do the initial install of MPE V 3P with > full subsys (it's been estimated that I need at least 100mb or so). Received my MPE tapes on Friday and installed the OS and patches over the weekend. Everything worked out just fine. It's really nice having *ALL* the subsystems again :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

26 years, 4 months

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Stuff to trade/stuff I'm looking for

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

While I'm thinking about it, I thought I'd do a quick troll for stuff I've been looking for. I'd rather trade around for stuff, but I'd be willing to pay real money (gasp) for some stuff: A keyboard for my HP2649 terminal HP2392, HP2622, or HP2645 terminal. I need one for my 3000 (using a laptop with an HP term program right now). The 2649 I have is dubious; I get a screen full of what looks like garbage to me, but then again, I don't have a keyboard and, in addition, the 2649 is interesting in that it could have a custom program on it for something other than being a straight terminal. An HD for my HP3000 that will fit in the bottom rack space. I've gotten some great info from Joe Rigdon on models and have my eyes open; I need something big enough so that I can do the initial install of MPE V 3P with full subsys (it's been estimated that I need at least 100mb or so). Qbus ethernet card (for my 11/23 compat) Qbus scsi controller card Qbus MFM controller card A scsi interface for the Atari ST (like an ICD/etc). A Hayes Smartmodem 2400 w/ps. What I currently have to trade: Sparcprinter w/LP sbus interface card/required cables Sparc 1 w/24megs ram (If you want both, I'll give you the lpviio.h header file for Ghostscript and you could use linux to make a printer server - i.e., cheap networked laser printer for Mac/Windows/Unix machines) SunOS 4.1 System Manual, volumes I - III SunOS 4.0 Network Administrator's Guide SunView Programmers Guide I'm sure there's a couple others (all 3-ring binders) Cables, cables, cables. DB25 and DB9 serial, AT keyboard extenders, other misc, lots of them. Cat5 patch bay, 24 ports. (warning: not yet classic in the list sense) 486 laptops in various states. A bunch of working Epson Action Note 650's, a working Epson Action Note 895c (color, Cyrix DX4-100). Pentium laptops, mostly pieces. Retired for cracked screens/non operational. Some of the Dell P-75 bases work fine (cracked screens). I'd gladly entertain interesting trades for any of this stuff, with one caveat: I am the world's worst shipper. It takes me a long time to do it, and I hate it with a passion. As a general rule, I really won't ship anything that weighs more than 20 pounds total. Also, I mostly got this stuff for free/trades, so I don't really want to "sell" any of it... I'll be at TRW this month, so I'd be happy to bring anything down there with me...just let me know if you want any of it! Cheers, Aaron

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Archive Viper and TEAC data cassette drives are spoken for

by jdykstra＠nortelnetworks.com

And sorry for the HTML. If Outlook 97 has an option to send plain text, they've got it well hidden. ---- John Dykstra jdykstra(a)nortelnetworks.com Principal Software Architect voice: ESN 454-1604 Carrier Packet Solutions fax: ESN 667-8549

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free Tektronix 7603 manual for shipping costs

by jdarren＠ala.net

I would like to find a home for a Tektronix 7603 / R7603 Oscilloscope Service Manual and will give it for the cost of shipping. The shipping will be $3.20 for USPS Priority Mail. I will send to first person to contact. Thanks.

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free Tektronix 7A26 manual for shipping costs

by jdarren＠ala.net

I would like to find a home for a Tektronix 7A26 Dual Trace Amplifier Instruction Manual and will give it for the cost of shipping. The shipping will be $3.20 for USPS Priority Mail. I will send to first person to contact. Thanks.

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Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I got a couple of "free" VT320 terminals with a system I picked up and they >both work but they are both pretty dim. (one is reasonably bright after a >30 - 40 minute warm up). Now in the video game market there are kits to >rejuvenate a tube but I don't know what the equivalent would be for a >VT320. Tony? Anyone? Is there anything I can do? As a very first pass, on most terminals you can crank an internal pot to increase the maximum brightness. You will almost certainly find that there's some interaction with the focus. In *my* opinion, using my current price/performance/effort/time tradeoff matrix, if tweaking the pot doesn't yield a satisfactory display, the right thing to do is get a new CRT for the terminal. Open up an issue of _Processor_ and you'll find dozens of places that sell replacement CRT's for terminals of just about every make. Why go the new CRT route? Yes, it's expensive, but if you're going to be using the terminal into the future (and it'll be just as usable fifteen years from now as it was when it was new) it's the right thing to do. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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IIgs stuff update

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Hello, boys and girls. I got four responses right off the bat, so I'm going to sort out who wants what and then I'll post what's left in a couple of days. Thanks to those who responded so far. I'm glad they're going to go to classiccmp people....I've gotten a few orphans that way, so I'm glad to be able to give something back. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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TEAC Data Cassette Drive - Available for cost of shipping

by jdykstra＠nortelnetworks.com

I've got an TEAC data cassette drive with SCSI interface, model MT-2ST/N50, available to the first responder for the cost of shipping. The drive works, but there's no warranty. It has had light usage and is in good condition, but I have no idea how much life is left on the heads. This is the drive only--no enclosure or power supply. I also have twelve data cassettes that fit this drive. The "buyer" of the drive has first dibs on these, but if s/he doesn't want them, I'll make them available separately. As far as I know, there's no commercial source for these any more. If you want this drive and/or cassettes, email me your address and desired method of shipping. If I don't hear anything by Wednesday, they go up on eBay. ---- John Dykstra jdykstra(a)nortelnetworks.com Principal Software Architect voice: +1 651 415-1604 Nortel Networks fax: +1 612 932-8549

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Ham population stats

by jpl15＠netcom.com

So far: 23 respondents to my "Who's a Ham" question; not counting the several commercial licensees among us. Off Topic: I am hoping that the recent US FCC relaxing of the license requirements will breathe a little New Life into the bands in this country... the average age of the Ham population is now in the late 50s or something. There was a time when our communication system in this country, and especially emergency communication, was augmented positively by Hams... but there was a time when computers were as big as the ones in my living room... times have changed. To all who grouse about having had to learn 13WPM (Im a General Class) or 20 WPM (for Extra Class) I say this: It's only a hobby, and a great, though dying one... I welcome all the new hams to come... 5WPM will still be a good "sincerity" filter, and c'mon, people.... it's only *one* character every *two* freakin seconds!! [you do the math: 5 WPM, 5 letters/word avg... 25 char in 60 secs avg] On Topic: I want to use the PDP 11/44 to talk to my (vintage) AEA PK232 Multi-Mode terminal node controller... but even more I want to lash up an RTTY program for the PDP, to send and recieve Baudot in real time. This is in addition to the vintage 60's RTTY station I am assembling... just looking for a good Transmitter. Major components are Model 19, Collins R-388 (51-J) [serial number 235..!] and Irv Hoff TU made homebrew from 60s QST articles. And now back to your originally scheduled Classic Computer Collector's List already in progress.. Cheers John

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11/03 WCS?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that <mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? Thats an 11/2 and no. The full set is likely FIS. the wcs is a quad width card with a cable to the 5th socket. Allison

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Anyone need a MicroVAX II CPU + memory?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I've got several spare sets of KA630 and MS630-BB (4MB) boards now. If someone wants a set here is a chance to get one. I'm offering the following: 1 KA630 CPU (MicroVAX II w/ 1MB of RAM on board) 2 MS640-BB 4MB Parity Memory boards 1 3 board Memory buss ribbon cable connector. Their $20 shipping included to anywhere in the US. Outside the US it'll be $15 + whatever postage costs. --Chuck

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11/03 WCS?

by mbg＠world.std.com

>I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that >mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? The WCS option was an entire separate (quad) *board*, not a chip. What you probably have is the 11/03, 11/2 chipset +EIS/FIS. Also, please note FIS != FPP/FPU/FPA. It is FADD, FSUB, FMUL, FDIV. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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new finds

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

hit the thrift stores today and found a few neat things like: IBM PS/2 3511 which is a 9595 server SCSI enclosure. apple II business graphics application still in original packaging. PS/2 model 25 with original box that neighbor gave to me for free. some macintosh books and original disks including a cassette tape thats a guided tour of macwrite and macpaint. found an atari 1200xl in box but no power supply. the person says they will check next week to see if they have it. all in all, not a bad weekend. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 view the computers of yesteryear at http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm --You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--

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11/03 WCS?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? --Chuck

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Qume QVT103 terminal

by dburrows＠netpath.net

It is a terminal. There are a few listed in the DDA. Contact me off list and I will give you the dealers that have them and their asking prices. That is if all else fails for a list member having one for real cheap. Dealer asking prices are in the $50 to $100 area. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Joules <peter(a)joules0.demon.co.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Qume QVT103 terminal >Does anyone know what the above is? I have been offered 2 Suns and a >DECSystem 5000 by someone who is looking for one or anything else which >will connect to a Stride 460 running UCSD p-system. Obvoiusly I would >like to help him if possible. Does anyone know of any software which >will emulate the above? > >He contacted me through the Computer Rescue web page so it works ;-) >-- >Regards >Pete

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scroungers -- a new chalenge

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, all you dumpster divers . . . . I am on the lookout for: a --->> 44pin IDE <<--- cable about an inch or less long to attach a 2.5" harddrive into an Amiga 1200. I've had people try to sell me adapters to the standard 40 pin. The pitch is slightly less than .100 -- think it's about .080. Female to female connectors. Also looking for a good sorce or supply of Syquest 5 1/4" catridges in either 88 Mb or 200 Mb capacities. I have one of all of these drives -- 44/88/200 and the new prices are worse than the price of gasoline these days. I have a used 44 meg Syquest drive with two carts that I'd part with QUITE CHEAPLY. Also to remind all you Amigalphiles out there -- the Gateway Amiga show is in St. Louis again on April 1-2 at the Henry VIII Hotel on Lindbergh Boulevard near the airport. Gary Hildebrand loyal Amigaphile and boatanchor collector

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Finds at the local university salvage

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

Last week I finally took an afternoon to peruse the surplus depot at my local university. I had to make two trips because they don't take cash, only checks and money orders. As a result of leaving, I missed out on a VAXstation 3100-42 for $10, but the guy left the two disk boxes behind (total of three RZ-57 drives). They have a wad of Macs of various models in various states. I picked up a Mac IIci for $5 with an Apple video card, 8Mb RAM, 230Mb disk and Asante Ethernet; and a Mac IIcx with only a video card for another $5 (mostly for a spare PSU) I've been looking for a IIci for a while because I was using my brother's old one when it died on me. Now I can return it to him in working condition. If I really felt like it, they had a couple of Quadra 605s for $25, one with memory and disk, one without. Neither had ethernet so I left them behind. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 4 months

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Qume QVT103 terminal

by peter＠joules0.demon.co.uk

Does anyone know what the above is? I have been offered 2 Suns and a DECSystem 5000 by someone who is looking for one or anything else which will connect to a Stride 460 running UCSD p-system. Obvoiusly I would like to help him if possible. Does anyone know of any software which will emulate the above? He contacted me through the Computer Rescue web page so it works ;-) -- Regards Pete

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ham radio?

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Wouff-Hong (sp?) Boy, that's an obscure reference. When I was in high-school, (back in the 70's) I picked up a couple of big boxes of QST magazines at a ham auction. Most of 'em were from the 1940's and 50's, but they were _very_ interesting reading, especially if you were into tinkering with old world-war II receivers (like the ARC-5 series...) I ran across a number of articles that mentioned the Wouff-Hong. From what I can remember, it was a wierdly-shaped piece of wood with a couple of rusty bits of metal hanging from it (probably was a fragment of an old cart hitch or something along those lines) From what I can remember, someone at ARRL headquarters found this item lying around somewhere in a storage area, and hung it on the wall just for grins. Nobody knew what it actually was, but it became kind of a joke to threaten to use it on someone as a punishment instrument if they did something against the ham ethic. I haven't heard a reference to it since high-school reading foray into the ham-past. (until now, that is :-) -al- (KD4TTQ) -acorda(a)geocities.com > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wilson [mailto:wilson@dbit.dbit.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:11 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ham radio? > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 06:49:55PM -0600, jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote: > > I think someone hit him with the Wouff-hong. > > Geez, it's been waaaay too long, what's that again? And I forget what > a Wollongong (sp?) is too... > > John Wilson KC1P (formerly KA1BNJ from Sep '78 -- Bad News John!) > D Bit >

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suggestions on looking for warehouse space?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/19/2000 4:12:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: > > Anyone in Minneapolis area know were I can get a warehouse over 2000 sq. feet > for real cheap ? > >From many years of looking I suggest that you check out basement space in the older industrial district. You want to make sure that it has a freight elevator that works and big enough for full size racks. You also want to make sure that it is dry and has a good floor that a pallet jack will roll around on. Basements are warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer. They are usually the cheapest space around. Sometimes a business real estate rental agent can be a help. Sometimes you can rent partial bays but they may not be secure. Good luck. Paxton

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MSCP Patent

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

FWIW, the patent on MSCP, the DEC Mass Storage Control Protocol is #4,449,182. I found it and looked it up at www.uspto.gov. It was issued in May 1984 so should expire in May 2004 (given the revieed 20 yr rule) --Chuck

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Apple IIgs stuff for FREE!!!

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Well, you need to pay for boxing and shipping, but other than that.... Here's what I have. I already have two full IIgs systems and my wife is getting a mite touchy about the decreasing free space in the basement.....I'd rather these go to a good, warm, loving home than put 'em on ebay. 4 cpu's All boot through the roms, at least. 4 AppleColor RGB monitors All work 1 Apple HiRes monochrome display (13") 2 5-1/4" floppy drives 2 Imagewriter II's Assume they work, haven't tested 'em. Fairly clean. I'm in the NW Indiana/Chicago area if you want to swing by and pick 'em up and save some shipping. If you want part, fine. If you want the entire pile, better. Just let me know ASAP. I need the space..... Thanks. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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Finds during down time

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1. Picked up most of the manuals for Windows 1.0 at the thrift for 10 cents each. 2. about 56 more books 3. Gridcase 386 does no power up but cost 10 dollars at Goodwill. 4. IBM 7208-001 tape unit for my RS6000 box 5. Tandy 600 power supply 6. about 20 mouse pads for my collection 7. Data General 66824 terminal working for 3.95 8. 20 cartridges some coleco and atari 2600's 9. working TRS80 model 100 in nice case for 5 dollars at Goodwill. 10. lots of cables I will to test and figure out what they go to. 11. lots of other items but most are not under the 10 year rule. Anyone in Minneapolis area know were I can get a warehouse over 2000 sq feet for real cheap ?

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IBM 3363 optical drive Technical Reference Manual wanted

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, As the subject says, I would like to get hold of a Technical Reference Manual for the IBM 3363 WORM drive. Any ideas where I might find one? (And an ISA adapter card for the 3363 too.) Regards, -- Mark

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Past Bytes issues

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I looking for the following Byte issues. I dont need the whole magazine, just scans of the following articles. TIFF files would be the best as I can run an OCR to convert it to text. Also clear scans of the figures, etc is needed as well. 1. Pountain, Dick. Microprocessor design: the transputer and its special language, Occam. BYTE, August 1984, page 361. 2. Walker, Paul. The transputer: a building block for parallel processing. BYTE, May 1985, page 219. 3. Wilson, Pete. Floating-point survival kit. BYTE, Volume 13, Number 3, March 1988, page 217. Thanks. Ram

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scroungers -- a new chalenge

by edick＠idcomm.com

Yes, I've bought a few of the "real" tools on behalf of one client or another. They're expensive, but it seems that their expense comes mainly >from making it difficult to use them with other manufacturers' connectors. My version came from Gateway Electronics, but I've seen them for sale in the same blister-pack elsewhere. I'll phone up the guys at Gateway (St.Louis, Denver, Houston, SanDiego, not all of which are open any longer and none of which are associated with Gateway Computers) since it's Saturday. IF all else fails, I suppose you could call them in Denver at (303) 458-5444. Ask for Mike, and he'll know which crimping tool you want. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: Re: scroungers -- a new chalenge >Dick, > > Where do you buy such a wonder? I worked on some of the first 8085 >computers in the mid 70s and we bought a press that was made for putting on >ICD connectors and I remember that it cost about $450! Personally, I use a >vice and have no trouble with it. > > Joe > >At 08:49 PM 2/18/00 -0700, you wrote: >>There's a tool made specifically for attaching ICD connectors that costs >>only $15-16. That's quite a bit less than what the fixe-grips cost. >>They're a parallel-jawed arrangement made of cleverly formed black sheet >>metal with a yellow plastic seat that fits in the jaws, hinged at the end, >>like a nutcracker, and which works MUCH better, faster, and more easily than >>a vise, plier, even a parallel-jawed pair, as they're usually too small. >>That seat is almost perfect, but it has a relief for the index tab in the >>middle of the odd-numbered side of most IDC connectors, but it won't take >>the ones with two such tabs. I've never seen one of these blister-packed >>wonders cost more than $19.95, and bought mine for $15 or so. >> >>Dick >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> >>To: classiccmp <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >>Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 7:28 PM >>Subject: Re: scroungers -- a new chalenge >> >> >>>On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 06:00:51PM -0700, Clint Wolff (VAX collector) >>wrote: >>>> IDC cables are pretty easy to crimp with a panavise, or bench vise and >>>> nylon jaws. >>> >>>Or a "duckbill" vice grip, available at welding supply shops and some auto >>>parts shops. Works nicely, and not too strong... A vice is OK but you >>>have to be really careful to listen for the clicks, the first one is the >>>connector seating, the second one is the connector shattering! >>> >>>John Wilson >>>D Bit >> >> >

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