- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

Software rental, "trusted computing", etc. (was Re: Is this for real -- a new C64/128)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Some cite free software as a force to prevent this kind of madness. Right >But eventually we might have a situation where commodity hardware can only >run officially sanctioned operating systems, and hardware that is capable >of running free software can't run the official stuff. That and old platforms that are not of the "trusted" archetecture. >As I see it, the only way this is likely to be averted is if free software >develops a sufficiently broad deployment that the market for computers >that can't run it is insufficient to satisfy the vendors. ...and enough old hardware to make it a battle. Allison

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

hidden vaxes

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Well, well, well this was a treat. A while ago I saved a couple of MicroVAX 3400's that were headed for the dump. They had originally been a two VAX cluster. Now 3400's aren't particularly exciting as they have a KA640 CPU (2.7 VUPs), on board DSSI and on board lance ethernet. They were fairly quickly replaced by the 3600 (KA650) and then the 3800 (KA655, 3.8Vups). So I installed VMS on one of them, and decided to net boot the other into NetBSD to see what devices it had. Netbooting it failed. Actually the 'B ESA0' failed with "DEV ERR?" (device error). So I did a SHOW DEV and got a list of devices in the "wrong" format and an ethernet port EZA0. Did a double take and reset it to go through the boot sequence again. It reports as a KA660! (VAX 4000/200) This is great as it eliminates one of the holes in my KA6xx collection (currently KA630, KA640, KA650, KA655, KA660, and KA670) Now to find a KA690 (or better yet a KA691) and a KA620 (which I foolishly gave away at an earlier time) and it will be a clean sweep! --Chuck

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>HEY! I have a FIREPLACE but this isn't the FIREPLACE mailing list either, >ya know? Ya, but you can't store a computer there, a hanger however is a possible place for a museum. It's problem is often they are expensive space but, if you have a plane in a hanger the remaining space is not trivial. Allison

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>>An airplane has always been high on my list and with any luck, I'll be >>getting another one soon! Sorry Allison but, I'd rather fly a Piper than a >>Cessna. It's not what you fly, it's that you do. I have time in PA28/140 and PA32s. The C150 was available at an affordable price and NO training time on it so I got it... had that almost as long as my NS*horizon. >There is a couple in AZ with a working, flying, F104. (one of those neat >ones if not the 104). Feh, jets. If I were to fly a jet it would have to be an A10. Allison

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Cool! I didn't know you flew. I'm a student myself - one more solo Yep, been drivin my C150 '528 for the last 21 years. ;) If things go well it may even wander over to Ohio in the next few months. >cross-country and my night instruction and I'm just about ready for >my check ride. Ah, the big day. >I have room at the farm for a two-seater in the quonset hut, but it would >have to share the space with the pair of 11/70s and the 11/750. Just as good! Allison

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Sperry Univac Minicomputer

by mrdos＠swbell.net

Does anyone know anything about the UNIVAC minicomputer(s)? I didn't know there was such a thing as a UNIVAC minicomputer, until I came across a picture of one in a book the other day.

26 years, 1 month

3
2
0 0

Sperry Univac Minicomputer

by dogas＠leading.net

>I'd be curious to know what others there might be. >--Pat. I pulled the control panals off a Univac 1540... - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Booting VMS 5.5 from tape?

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

Good TK50 tapes are getting rare. In my experience, first clean the head and then try to read. Loosen the two springs that hold the head down by shifting them sidewards, then the head can be slid upwards and be cleaned. Wim ----------

26 years, 1 month

2
1
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote: > No plane???? Heavens, oh my!!! Two things I don't give up, my Cessna > and some of my old machines than have followed me through 5 moves. Cool! I didn't know you flew. I'm a student myself - one more solo cross-country and my night instruction and I'm just about ready for my check ride. > A hanger... Even tiwht a cessna thats a lot of room left for a small > 11/780... ;) I have room at the farm for a two-seater in the quonset hut, but it would have to share the space with the pair of 11/70s and the 11/750. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

An airplane has always been high on my list and with any luck, I'll be getting another one soon! Sorry Allison but, I'd rather fly a Piper than a Cessna. Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: allisonp(a)world.std.com [mailto:allisonp@world.std.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 4:10 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Cc: JoAnn Rachor > Subject: Re: Finding Classic Computers > > No plane???? Heavens, oh my!!! Two things I don't give up, my Cessna > and some of my old machines than have followed me through 5 moves.

26 years, 1 month

3
2
0 0

Finding Classic Computers

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Word of mouth seems to be my best source of "valuable" computer hardware/software. Everyone at the hospital knows that I collect old computers, the lab has given me old DEC terminals and printers if I haul away all of the stuff. I also ended up with a MicroVAX 2000 with 2 RD54's if I promised to erase all of the clinical data. I happen to live in a small community, 1800 people, on the edge of a major metropolitan area. Everyone in town knows I go to the computer place at least once a week, I always volunteer to take anything anyone wants to send. Our community has a cleanup day every other year, it's amazing what shows up in the dumpster. I have arranged to take all of the computer/electronic stuff to the local computer recycling/surplus center instead of it going into the trash. I also volunteer computer support for the homeowners group. The fire department was glad to receive industrial strength printer, printer stand, and paper. OT: My best recovery was a 25" Toshiba TV that turned out to have a broken power cord. It has one ding where it hit the dumpster edge on the way in. Someone else had a remote for this same model, their TV fell off the counter. Now I have a complete unit for $0. Several times I have gone to garage sales when they are ending and offered to haul off the electronic/computer stuff left on the curb for the trash truck. My wife has been startled when I have stopped while driving down the street and picked up a few choice items. My wife tolerates this hobby because it doesn't cost much, I can fix our computer, and I'm not out gambling at the Riverboats. Drawbacks are that she and the kids don't understand why I want to use a MicroVAX 2000, can't open the car doors on one side because of the AT&T 3B2's and wonder about by Nicolet Zeta 36" plotter that used to live in the rec room. I also don't have many computers that are intact all the time, most seem to be fluctuating between troubleshooting and testing. My next goal is a neighbor who owns some storage lockers, maybe there will be "gold in them thar dumpsters". I once tried to "kick the habit". The 12 step process was two difficult, I threw out lots of stuff and then by the time I got to the wall of the garage I was hooked again. I hauled it all back in and hid it from my wife. Covert collecting is tough. Mike vintage computer addict.

26 years, 1 month

5
4
0 0

Finding Vintage Computers - A Primer

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

. > Comments please! . . Good stuff Sellam. Some comments: I think you under emphasise the garbage system. I have a PDP8L that came >from a dumpster at a university. Here in Australia we also have "Council Cleanups" where periodically the local municipal councils pick up assorted larger rubbish if it is left by the side of the road on a predetermined Monday a few times a year. The result is lots of pickings during the preceding weekend. Unfortunately one needs to cruise around all day as the good looking stuff goes very quickly. In some places there are also "tip shops" where authorised scroungers (often charities) sell goods collected from a garbage tip (or "dump" in American). Around here we have establishments with names like Junktastic Park and Reverse Garbage. Do we want to mention the term Dumpster Diving in a primer? Hans

26 years, 1 month

2
1
0 0

Finding Vintage Computers - A Primer

by owad＠applefritter.com

>Let Them Come to You > >One way to find vintage computers is to let them find you. >Try placing an ad in the classifieds section of your local >paper. Be sure to specify exactly what you are looking for >to avoid getting a flood of false leads. In the very least, >include a cut-off year indicating you are not interested in >any computers manufactured after that year. Anybody try this? What kind of response did you get? Tom Owad ------------------------------Applefritter------------------------------ Apple Prototypes, Clones, & Hacks - The obscure, unusual, & exceptional. ---------------------<http://www.applefritter.com/>---------------------

26 years, 1 month

3
2
0 0

Network adapters mystery

by macieks＠pzl-okecie.com.pl

I've got my VAXstation and PC/Linux box connected via ethernet and TCP/IP at last ! And offcourse the problems I had - were on the PC side... VMS config was OK since first time :) But there was one mystery: The network not worked with Compex NE2000 clone adapter. When I replaced it with Compex ENET16/U adapter configured as NE2000 everything is OK... does anybody has any idea ? (I'm sure that first adapter was good, I've tested it) Was there any changes in ethernet specification that could make that new (1996 - second adapter was 1992) adapter incompatible with VAXstation ? And by the way - I got offer of "microVAX 3600 in 3500 case" I have no idea what it may mean - could it be 3600 put in small 3500 cabinet ? Is it possible ? (the offer is interesting anyway - its 3600 running VMS 5.5 + DECserver 200 + DELNI +4 VT320 + VT340 for free - I'm thinking where to put the stuff...) Maciek Szymanski

26 years, 1 month

1
0
0 0

stupid PC tricks

by red＠bears.org

Ok, a year or so ago I rescued a Compaq Portable II. Not exactly in line with my normal interests, but the owner had the right personality and convinced me to do it anyway. One thing she told me she had always wanted to do but never managed to get done was install a hard card in the box, which as she bought it, had only two 5.25" floppy drives. Friday I picked up an 80 MB Plus HardCard at a local PC recycler's. It was sold as-is, but for $1 I figured I'd take a chance. I'm having problems with it, and the problems I'm having don't seem to indicate a real hardware problem, but I'm not too familiar with hardcards: * The Compaq setup utility recognizes it as a "type 11" disk, but conveniently neglects to tell me anything about what this actually means. Thinking of it now, I should RTFM and see if this information is listed in any of the dead-trees docs I got with the machine. * PC-DOS 3.30 fdisk sees a 77 MB disk with a single non-dos partition, which seems correct, as at 80 MB it wouldn't be FAT12. * PC-DOS 3.30 fdisk hangs when trying to write any partition information to the disk. * MS-DOS 4.01 recognizes the disk and I can get a directory listing of c:\ * MS-DOS 4.01 fdisk hangs when trying to write any partition information to the disk. Where should I be looking and what should I be trying to make this work? ok r.

26 years, 1 month

4
3
0 0

Booting VMS 5.5 from tape?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I finally found my VMS 5.5 TK50's today and thought I would try to install VMS on my MicroVAX II. The tape loads in the TK50 just fine, but after typing B MUA0: It reads and reads and reads ... Now I know TK50's are _really_ slow to boot (NetBSD takes about 5 minutes) but is this the only thing going on? There isn't some boot flag I need to give the tape to insure that it does the right thing is there? I keep expecting to see the standalone backup prompt and I keep right on waiting.... --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

4
4
0 0

stupid PC tricks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/15/00 9:39:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, red(a)bears.org writes: > All right. > > I undefined the disk in CMOS (which now believes there is no hard disk > installed) but I'm having the same problem. FDISK hangs creating a new > partition, just after it says "Drive capacity is 77 Mbytes" or the message > to that effect. > > I checked out the jumpers on the unit, and they are set for IRQ 11, BIOS > address C8000, I/O port 170, drive select 0. using dos 5 or higher? (no 32meg partition limit with ver 5) try booting dos, run FDISK /MBR DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

stupid PC tricks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/15/00 7:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, donm(a)cts.com writes: > On Mon, 15 May 2000, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > > > > > Ok, a year or so ago I rescued a Compaq Portable II. Not exactly in line > > with my normal interests, but the owner had the right personality and > > convinced me to do it anyway. > > > > One thing she told me she had always wanted to do but never managed to get > > done was install a hard card in the box, which as she bought it, had only > > two 5.25" floppy drives. > > > > Friday I picked up an 80 MB Plus HardCard at a local PC recycler's. It was > > sold as-is, but for $1 I figured I'd take a chance. > > > > I'm having problems with it, and the problems I'm having don't seem to > > indicate a real hardware problem, but I'm not too familiar with hardcards: > > > > * The Compaq setup utility recognizes it as a "type 11" disk, but > > conveniently neglects to tell me anything about what this actually > > means. Thinking of it now, I should RTFM and see if this information > > is listed in any of the dead-trees docs I got with the machine. > according to my hardcard20 manual, do not set up and entry for the hardcard in CMOS. there may be a jumper on the hardcard for either 1 or 2 depending on whether its the primary or second hard drive. there is a setup disk, but normally shouldnt be needed. I have a copy if needed. the book also says that it is not possible to LLF the hardcard. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm

26 years, 2 months

2
1
0 0

Trash or Treasure? Control Data PA5N1F drives

by ip500＠roanoke.infi.net

Dragged [for real--these puppies are heavy] home a bunch of CDC 500 MB hard drives this morning. I rarely see any mention of Control Data here [or anywhere else for that matter]....any use or application for these things? They came out of an NCR mini system. Only managed to find one CPU unit [but did get ALL the print sets for both the CPU and the drives]. Interesting and maybe unusual, but what am I going to be able to do with them. Any and all info and/or pointers appreciated. Thanks, Craig

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Booting VMS 5.5 from tape?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Interesting... Well, there isn't anything quite so nice as the documentation. :-) [even if it is for V5.2 which is not quite right for these tapes (5.5-2)] Turns out that if you have a VMS cartridge tape release (such as I do) you boot standalone backup from tape *2* not tape 1. (presumably its on tape one on 4.x tapes but on this tape its on tape 2) Of course I have to guess what the save set's name is, but using the DEC propensity for naming things VMS<VER> I guessed VMS0552.B (VMS 5.5-2 save set B). Perhaps when I come back tomorrow I'll know if I guessed right :-) --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

SCO site has Unix for download

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: > >SCO has got Unix 5th, 6th and 7th Editions, Mini Unix, System III and 32V > >available on their site for download... > Also, does anyone know if BSD 2.11 is going to be available? I suspect > it's the one that I'd be most interested in. I'm interested in 2.11BSD as well as 2.9BSD - I have ancient 2.9BSD tapes that I converted to container files and ran on my SPARC1 many years ago. What I don't have is the source tape - mine developed a read error, and even in the mid-90s, I wasn't able to extract from it. It's so old now that I'm sure it's hopeless. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

26 years, 2 months

3
2
0 0

Finding Vintage Computers - A Primer

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/15/00 5:49:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > On Mon, 15 May 2000, Tom Owad wrote: > > > >Let Them Come to You > > > > > >One way to find vintage computers is to let them find you. > > >Try placing an ad in the classifieds section of your local > > >paper. Be sure to specify exactly what you are looking for > > >to avoid getting a flood of false leads. In the very least, > > >include a cut-off year indicating you are not interested in > > >any computers manufactured after that year. > > > > Anybody try this? What kind of response did you get? > > Not a newspaper ad, but posting a Usenet ad was quite possibly the best > thing I could've ever done. I posted several ads in the local for sale > newsgroups periodically over the course of several months and turned up > all sorts of good stuff. > what is an example of the usenet ad you post? i'm wondering how good an ad will work around here, however. someone posted on a local usenet group here asking for a C64. I eventually traded him one for a scsi drive for my PS/2 server. he said he had gotten some offers from people offering to sell their C64s, but they wanted $40 and insanely high prices. must have been ebay users. 8-< DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Sperry Univac Minicomputer

by mrdos＠swbell.net

It looks to be about 5ft tall. The top half is the traditional Sperry Red/Orange color, and the bottom half is grey. It's mounted in a rack with several storage devices. I can't make out the model number on the front. The caption in the book says it's a minicomputer. It's much too small to be a mainframe. I've never seen a UNIVAC in "person" before. I've always thought it would be neat to own one. Thanks, Owen

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

OT: hard drive serial numbers?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Random question : Does anyone know how to change the "disk serial number" on a FAT32 partition? (a search of the web came up empty) --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

2
1
0 0

XE GS, encore

by ckaiser＠oa.ptloma.edu

Well, for those who remember, a couple of months back I got an XE GS for $2 but with no power supply, so I couldn't test it. Someone sent me some very helpful information about it, but I lost all my mail in a HD incident a month ago. I would love it if they could resend it :-) Anyway, it powers up, now that I found a 130XE power supply to plug into it, and it goes through all the self-tests 100%. I also found out how to launch it into BASIC, but the problem was that it would not STOP going into BASIC when I powered it off and on again, even if I didn't hold down any buttons on the console! Also, I cannot seem to figure how to launch the second? game that is supposed to be in it -- it comes up with either Missile Command, the Self Test or BASIC. (I got it out of permanent BASIC mode by disconnecting the power, but there's got to be an easier way. And where can I find a GS keyboard?) Anyway, suggestions appreciated. I have precious little experience with Ataris, and even less with Ataris that work. >:-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)ptloma.edu -- Dalai Lama to hotdog vendor: "Make me one with everything." ----------------

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Nike analog computer

by mranalog＠home.com

Today beening the first sunday of the month, I finally went to see and to take some pictures of a historically important, but virtually unknown type of analog computer. Just north across the Golden Gate bridge is a beautiful protected area of rolling hills with biking and hiking trails, but honeycombed with tunnels and overgrown gun emplacements dating back to the 1870's. This area called the Marin Headlands is also the location of SF-88, the only one of 300 Nike missle sites to be restored for public viewing. They have a great web site and you can read about the rest of the site, but today I was interested in the control vans. One contains the electronic and controls for the radars that tracked the missle and the target. The other van contains the launch control panel and the "intercept computer", a Western Elecric electronic analog computer that occupies 4 equipment racks. This analog computer guided the missile after launch using radar inputs to intercept the target and maded the idea of a anti missile deterrent a reality. The missile site operated from 1955 to 1974 when it was turned over to the National Park Service. But before 1955 many scientists believed that a missile could never intercept another missile (they said, would be like "hitting a bullet with another bullet."). In 1955 Bell Telephone Laboratories completed 50,000 simulated intercepts of ballistic missile targets using an analog computer indicated that it was possible to hit a missile with another missile. Today, I took a bunch of pictures. They had the launch control panel powered up. Lots of multi-colored buttons, and above the panel is the plotter, you may have seen in the movies, with the two pens that slowly move closer and closer until they touch as the missile hits it's target. http://www.jps.net/ethelen/t_acqconsole.html A couple of pictures of the computer: http://www.jps.net/ethelen/t_acqconsole.html Take your own tour on-line: http://www.jps.net/ethelen/t_tour.html Nike sites in your state or country: http://www.jps.net/ethelen/appndx_b.html --Doug ==================================================== Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com (work) Sr. Software Eng. mranalog(a)home.com (home) Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com Sunnyvale,CA Curator Analog Computer Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog ====================================================

26 years, 2 months

2
2
0 0

Is this for real -- a new C64/128

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Cameron: >>here's been an awful lot of Commodore-related vapourware these days. This is why I bring it up. I saw this reference in c.s.c so I took a look at it. If it *is* real, it's an interesting packaging job, sort of a modern one-piece machine. However, he's selling Commodore-badged PeeCees right next to it, so it places the veracity of the ad in question. If I had to guess, this guy may be a local PeeCee clone maker hoping to cash in on the C= name. That notwithstanding, a one-piece B128 with Web browsing, Ethernet, and 6502-compatibility is *very* interesting. I wonder if it has the old serial IEEE port... <TRANCE> Hmmm...new...64...BASIC...must...have...new...64... ...no...can't be...dream...aaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhh... </TRANCE> OK, I feel better now. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:ckaiser@oa.ptloma.edu] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:39 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Is this for real -- a new C64/128 ::Check this site out http://www.commodore2000.com :: :: The Commodore Evolution (in the development process) looks like a ::fat PC keyboard. I e-mailed the guy to try to get some more detailed specs. ::I wonder if this is for real or not. It looks like a recent domain ::registration. Well, the company claims to have the rights. We're all dubious over in comp.sys.cbm, especially after that Web.it crapola debacle (the 486 in sheep's clothing with an emulator in ROM). There's been an awful lot of Commodore-related vapourware these days. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)ptloma.edu -- Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -- Oscar Wilde

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Pirates of Silicon Valley video

by Historical＠aol.com

Hello everyone, just a reminder that this excellent video is available as of tomorrow. It's a very entertaining movie and gives a good general overview of the specific history regarding Apple and Microsoft. As many may know, it does have some inaccuracies and does glaze over the years after 1984 (big time), but hey, it's worth owning and seeing. It's only $12.99 at Amazon.com. Go to: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0780627717/classicc omputinsA/103-6128965-8638246 Your purchase helps support ClassicComputing.com. Best, David Greelish Publisher Classic Computing Press www.classiccomputing.com

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

What is NAS ?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>DVNETEND -- End Node >DVNETEXT -- ? >UCX -- TCP/IP DVNETEXT is what you need if you want to be a DECNET routing node. Tim.

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

classiccmp-digest V1 #176

by jruschme＠mac.com

>> Its very close ('92-93) to ten years old, but I'll be brief - anybody >> know of a use for some Proxim RangeLAN/ISA cards and a still-new-in-box >> RangeLAN/PCMCIA kit? Please reply to me offline. > You could build a peer-to-peer wireless network, but without one of > the 'base stations' (that functions as a gateway between the wireless\ > network to the wired network) it'd be tough to do much else. > > Rick Bensene Hmm... why not put the ISA card in a Win9x or Linux box and run some kind of IP-NAT scheme. Essentially, you'd have the equivalent of an Apple AirPort "Software Base Station". -- John Ruschmeyer jruschme(a)mac.com

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

What is NAS ?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Ok, so does the hobbyiest license include a license to run DECnet? I tried >running NETCONFIG and it complained that I didn't have a license for DECnet >and I looked at the layered products and didn't see one in that list either. Yes it's included but did you load it? Allison

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

[ecollins@outstart.com: SCO site has Unix for download]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

----- Forwarded message from Efton Collins <ecollins(a)outstart.com> ----- From: "Efton Collins" <ecollins(a)outstart.com> To: <PUPS(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: SCO site has Unix for download Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:46:34 -0400 Hey, You may have seen it already, but I haven't seen an announcement on the PUPS list - SCO has got Unix 5th, 6th and 7th Editions, Mini Unix, System III and 32V available on their site for download. You can access them by going to www.sco.com/offers/ancient.html and accepting the license. Congratulations PUPS, this is a milestone. Efton ----- End forwarded message ----- -- +--------------------+-------------------+ | Bill Bradford | Austin, Texas | +--------------------+-------------------+ | mrbill(a)sunhelp.org | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | +--------------------+-------------------+

26 years, 2 months

2
1
0 0

Cosmos spoken for. ;)

by dogas＠leading.net

Stephen Hawkin was on Larry King last night. Quite the remarkable fellow. They also clipped in a shot of Cosmos, the computer being used in today's quantum cunstructions on the theory of everything. Carl Sagan was a god of mine, so I just wanted to call dibs on ole Cosmos when she's decommissioned. ;) Anyone have any specs on the machine? ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

What is NAS ?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated >distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one >question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products, >one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What >is/was NAS? I forget what NAS was originally supposed to stand for, but it consists of the "basic necessities" for modern operation. Workstation NAS is a package consisting of DECWindows/Motif, DECNET, TCP/IP, some network printing stuff, and a VMScluster license. Server NAS is a package consisting of the above plus Pathworks, Volume Shadowing, and a few other things. The exact "other things" depends on the exact NAS package (there higher the number, the more extra stuff - the numbers I'm familiar with are 150, 250, and 400.) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 2 months

3
3
0 0

PDP-11 support for GNU binutils

by mew_jac＠swbell.net

Check this: http://news.nocrew.org/display.html?id=83

26 years, 2 months

6
5
0 0

Proxim RangeLAN wireless stuff

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Its very close ('92-93) to ten years old, but I'll be brief - anybody know of a use for some Proxim RangeLAN/ISA cards and a still-new-in-box RangeLAN/PCMCIA kit? Please reply to me offline. Bill -- +--------------------+-------------------+ | Bill Bradford | Austin, Texas | +--------------------+-------------------+ | mrbill(a)sunhelp.org | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | +--------------------+-------------------+

26 years, 2 months

2
1
0 0

Donate old computer gear.... (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a chap in Cambridge, UK, who's got an Osborne portable that needs a new home. I don't know if it's an original portable or not. The original portable has a tan case. The newer version has a grey & blue case. The Osborne Executive (pretty much similar to the Osborne 1 but with some improvements) has a grey & black case. Please contact the original sender directly to inquire. Reply-to: ILygo(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:05:51 EDT From: ILygo(a)aol.com Subject: Donate old computer gear.... Donate Your Old Computer Stuff to the Vintage Technology Cooperative Resource Center I found your web site for the VCF and noted the above section. I have an Osborne portable CPM computer with CPM software, Word Supercalc 1 etc. I do not want to dump it as it got me started in this great but sometimes frustrating business of computing (I currently contract using Lotus Domino to build Knowledge Management systems and intranets). The snag is I am in the UK (near Cambridge). Ian Lygo Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... Coming soon: VCF 4.0! VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

What is NAS ?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products, one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What is/was NAS? --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

2
2
0 0

Really Why I Hate eBay

by foo＠siconic.com

Well, upon thinking about it some more it finally struck me why I really hate eBay. Before eBay I was able to build a fairly significantly collection through a lot of hard work. This included a lot of searching, a lot of walking, a lot of driving, a lot of bargaining, lot of hauling, some sweat, some blood, perhaps a few tears, etc. Through all this hard work I was able to amass a very nice collection of historical computer artifacts. It took some money as well, but the journey was the reward as they say. After eBay came it along, anybody with a little money (or rather a considerable amount of money in most cases) could amass a collection to perhaps rival mine without any of the hard work: without the journey. I guess it's typical human resentment. I resent the fact that my hard work could be equaled by a large number of dollars. I feel that a collection that can be bought so easily can not really be a collection in the sense that mine is, but something else entirely. But what really do I have to be resentful about? I've had the journey, which is something money can't buy. I have the harrowing stories to tell and the stories of those whom I've acquired the artifacts from. You can't get that from eBay (unless you can somehow dramatically depict the act of picking up a package from your porch). So behind all my anti-eBay rants, what I'm saying is, this hobby is much more rewarding when there has been work involved in creating your collection. It's kinda like the difference between actually going out and hunting for your meat as opposed to just picking it off atop your horse after having it herded towards you. Remember, you're not just creating a collection, you're recording a story. So there you have it. My true feelings on the matter. It's like Being Sellam Ismail (only better because you get to go back being you now ;)

26 years, 2 months

16
22
0 0

DEC stuff

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>If that fails, then you can try opening the HDA (screws on top) and >freeing the head by hand. Needless to say this should really be done in a >clean room, but you can _often_ get away with doing it in a normal room >if you keep the dust down (obviously, don't smoke, and keep the cat out >of the way :-)). Hints for those that have to resort to this. First clean the outside well, use compressed air and a damp rag to wipe it. This gets rid of local dust Wipe the area too. then wash hands, you laugh! Washing the hands gets rid of oils and dust that and all. Now, you can open the cover, use clean tools as well. once the cover is loose you can get inside. To do this part the drive needs to be powered as it's not safe to move the heads with the platter not rotating. Control cables are not needed, just power. Power up and observe the platters and heads, likely you will see spin up but, no head movement. If this is the case with the patters spinning give the head arm a push, if thing go well it will sweep the full travel then home in on track 0000. Now the drive can be covered. For the brave used to fine work a liitle plastic (clear packing tape) over the offending bumper will prevent this from happening again. hopefully the rescued drive has no other problems and an OS. If the head will not move the head lock (under the HDA and controboards on the bottom may be stuck. if it is put the cover on flip it over and remove the solenoid (it will run fine without it, never ship it though!). Retry the spinup. I've done this on several drives, all of which I still use. What makes this work is the basic design and physics. Spin those platters at 3600 rpm and landing on them heads for the walls. Since there is rotation there is a basic airflow pattern that insures and dust in side gets picked up. Fingerprints on the platter are bad though but I've never had a crashed one, though I did take one with other bad problems and try a few things. Oh, it took writing on the platter with pencil to make the head crash. ;) Anywho I've found this drive has two problems, heat and heat. The bumper problem is heat related. So if you keep the drive cool it does seem to last many years. this is true for a lot of the older drives. Keep them fans goin. Allison

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

DEC stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I was helping to sort a load of surplus test equipment yesterday and found a couyple of DEC computers. Since I'm not a DEC head I don't know anything about them so can someone tell me more about them and if they're worth rescueing. The first is a DEC Por 350, there are two of them. The other is is a Micro PDP 11/73. Both are roughly the size of a large tower case for a PC. There's also a VAX 11/785 there but it's huge! Joe

26 years, 2 months

6
11
0 0

Hmm, while we're HPing, how bout HP-125?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/12/2000 11:45:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, donm(a)cts.com writes: > > I have a pair of HP-125's, but no software or manuals or the external > floppy > > drives they seem to come with.. have the printer though, and some HP-IB > > cables.. Anyone have stuff for em? PS, those are some of the WEIRDEST > > looking machines I've ever seen!!! > > That is the CP/M model, is it not Will? If so, I have the following: > > Name Format Description > 12x-SYS DSDD HP 12x series (120/125) CP/M 2.2 system disk > 12x-UTIL DSDD HP 12x series utilities > 12x-TUT DSDD HP 12x series Computer Tutor > 12x-WS DSDD HP 12x series Wordstar 3.0 > 12x-WORD DSDD HP 12x series The Word+ > 12x-COND DSDD HP 12x series Condor 20 dbms > 12x-VISI DSDD HP 12x series Visicalc > 12x-GRPH DSDD HP 12x series Graphics > 12x-DLNK DSDD HP 12x series to host comm programs > > - don > Don; Are these 8" disks, 5 1/4" disks or 3 1/2" disks? I think I have some 5 1/4" HP HPIB disk drives that I think work on the 125s & 120s. I also have a 120 somewhere. I used to have a 125 and it is the CPM machine on a strange pedestal. They came in two heights. IIRC the 125 had a larger parallel Centronics type connector to hook up to 5 1/4" & 8" drives. Some of my disk drives have a dual plug set up, HPIB and this larger Centronics type connector. I am sure I don't have the large cable though. I have lots of HPIB cables. Paxton

26 years, 2 months

3
2
0 0

RT11 Pocket Guide Claimed

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Mark Honeycutt's E-mail had the earliest timestamp of three I received, so he's the lucky(?) recipient of the RT11 pocket guide I had advertised. For the record, John Allain's came in second, and Emanuel Stiebler third. Guys, I wish I had enough to go around, but thanks for your interest in any case. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner/Head Honcho, Blue Feather Technologies (www.bluefeathertech.com) kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "SCSI Users, Unite! Beware the IDEs of March!"

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

DEC stuff, pictures

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Hmm, while we're HPing, how bout HP-125?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hi, I have a pair of HP-125's, but no software or manuals or the external floppy drives they seem to come with.. have the printer though, and some HP-IB cables.. Anyone have stuff for em? PS, those are some of the WEIRDEST looking machines I've ever seen!!! Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

26 years, 2 months

3
2
0 0

Couple of cool HP 110/150 finds

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Ernest" <ernestls(a)home.com> wrote: > By the way, I found a new disk for the 150 Touchscreen: > > Advance Link Master#3 (45431-13003) A.01.01 2435 > Upload A.01.02 > Monitor 3000 A.02.04 > > Are you familiar with this bit of software? I'm assuming that it's comm > software for linking a 110/110+ to the 150 but I'm not sure. No, it's comm software for linking a 150 to an HP3000. AdvanceLink is an HP terminal emulator of sorts (let's face it, most of the terminal emulation is in the 150's firmware) with a so-so scripting language and upload/download capabilities. It came on more than one disk, I think that is disk 3 of the set, and I think it's got the stuff for uploading the HP3000 side of the file-transfer software to the 3000. > I also picked up a 110+ with some manuals but no software. I'm not sure if > there even was software for the 110 series, since they're ROM based systems. A little bit, plus you could use some of the generic MS-DOS software that was suitable for the 150s on the 110 and Portable Plus. Once upon a time, I was doing Pascal compilations on a 110 using the Microsoft Pascal compiler on 150-format stiffies. (It wasn't a very fast development system.) -Frank McConnell

26 years, 2 months

3
2
0 0

150-format stiffies?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

technoid(a)cheta.net wrote: > I know what a conventional 'stiffy' is but my definition is WAY off > topic... ;-) > What is a stiffy in your context of 150 format? Consider an 8-inch diskette. See how it's flexible, and bends when you hold it by a corner and let it hang out horizontally? That's why we call it a floppy disk. Now, compare and contrast the typical 3.5" medium, of which most HP150 diskettes are examples. Kind of stiff by comparison, isn't it? -Frank McConnell

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

QuickC libs

by cem14＠cornell.edu

Hi all; I seem to have misplaced my installation disks for QuickC 2.0, and the computer where it is installed is missing the large model LLIBCE.LIB, LLIBC.LIB and LLIBFP.LIB libraries, which I need to be able to use my 82335 HPIB card with QuickC. Is there any kind soul out there who could provide me a copy while I find the diskettes? TIA, Carlos. -- Carlos Murillo-Sanchez email: cem14(a)cornell.edu 428 Phillips Hall, Electrical Engineering Department Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853

26 years, 2 months

1
0
0 0

Printing Infocom Transcripts from 8-bitters (was Re: KIM Manual / Selectric)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- technoid(a)cheta.net wrote:> Back in the olden days of microcomputers a printer of any type cost a> bundle...Oh, yeah.> ...I think the most interesting one was a board> with a bank of solenoids mounted on it which faced the keyboard of the> typewriter.Because my mother had the typewriter, I wanted that device so bad. I justcouldn't afford it as a teenager.> Neither the WE teletype nor the EP22 would allow me to print my Hitchhiker's> Guide or Zork sessions as these games were 'boot' games with thier own dos.> Since the Atari 8-bit did not have a resident Serial printer handler, I could> not print from an Infocom game.By the time I could afford a printer, I had a Commodore-64 to drive it. Theprinter was an ancient Centronics that had two print heads - one for columns1 through 80 and another for 81 through 132. It had a genuine Centronicsinterface, of course. I built a cable for the user port and wrote a handlerthat fit in the cassette buffer and wedged in the OS routine for CHROUT. Istill have some Infocom transcripts from that printer as well as some ScottAdams disassembly from a game ripper I wrote in BASIC.I used to customize my Infocom environment in several ways before playingthe older games - I would load the PET font (captured by moving the characterROM to a regular expansion socket and typing the save command blind into TIM,the PET's ROM-based machine language monitor), change the color to green onblack and load my parallel printer driver before starting a session.I was such an Infocom afficianado that I eventually disassembled the oldest(and simplest) version of the C-64 ZIP (Zork Implementation Program, thegame engine) and have recompiled it to work on the VIC-20 (with enough RAM)and the BASIC 2.0 PET (I haven't gone back to find which zero-page locationsare getting stomped by the CHROUT routine in the kernal in BASIC 4.0).As an avid fan, it was a blast beta-testing "Return To Zork". It wasn't agreat game, but the coolest part was watching my bug reports turn intodetectable improvements in the game. I also pitched Infocom about portingRtZ to the Amiga, but it never happened. I got the underlying engine workingas a demonstration (text only, no graphics), but the project was cancelled dueto lack of expected financial reward.Needless to say, I've spent many an hour playing and writing adventures. Printing... oh, yeah... this post started off about printing... yeah,that, too. :-)-ethan Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.

26 years, 2 months

3
2
0 0

Keyboard actuator

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 01:08 PM 5/10/00 -0700, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: >This is THE device that will transfer files to ANYTHING. IF you can stop >laughing. Sounds like fun. How could it come close to hitting any key on any keyboard? Are the solenoids positionable? Certainly in some situations, a parallel-to-serial conversion box could capture the bitstream from an archaic computer. That route would have the benefit of a buffer in most cases. Does this gizmo have a buffer? As such, it would be most useful for getting data *into* a system that didn't have a way to import an ordinary text file. You could even write filters to massage the stream in order to hit weird key sequences to reformat the text. - John

26 years, 2 months

12
22
0 0

2026

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

test-drb