- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Finally, do *any* scanners have documented interfaces? i.e. say I find myself > a nice SCSI-connected high-speed high-resolution scanner. Am I going to be > reduced to point-and-drool with Windows 98, or can I actually hook the > scanner up to a real computer? We're talking about many tens or hundreds > of gigabytes of data here, so I'm willing to invest some effort to automate > the acquire/compress/archive process. TWAIN. -dq

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CBM 8032 and 8035

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "Charles P. Hobbs (SoCalTip)" <transit(a)lerctr.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > I just had a PET 4016 (9" screen) shipped from SoCal. It was > > $35, but considering it was from the Physics Department at the college in > > Santa Barbara, > > Hey, I might have used that Pet back in 1985 or so. Cool. Any way to identify it for sure? This one has the tape drive bolted to the top of the CRT housing and a huge red plastic-coated cable attached at the rear to lock it down to the table. The Lab I/O module has a gray box with jacks to connect to the outside world. How did you guys use it? Do you have *any* docs lying around (not a silly question - I still have all my notes from several college classes and I went from 1984 - 1989). > One of our lab experiments involved that interface, but I forgot > exactly what the experiment was supposed to be about (It either > had to do with a laser, or an EKG machine...) Sounds cool. > The physics lab had several PET's, but their keyboards were kind of > thrashed. They also had an OSI computer in a clear plastic case, > as a demonstration "what's inside the computer". Neat. Thanks for speaking up. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Help with a cable part number (VAX)

by inforum＠umd5.umd.edu

Chuck, Sorry to not be of much help, but what exactly is an M9715? I couldn't find it in the field guide. Doug On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Chuck McManis wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm trying to find out the DEC part number for the cable that connects > between an M9715 paddle board and the KA660 CPU card (or a KA640 CPU). It > should have a 50 pin socket on one end (standard .1" dual row) and a high > density socket on the other end. (plug on the paddle board is marked > "Honda" and "RPS-50LM") If anyone has an extra one that would be great, > I'll settle for the part number though. > > --Chuck >

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BIT90

by guerney＠bigpond.com

I picked up a BIT90 today. I have never seen one before other than on a couple of computer museums on the web. Unfortunately the unit came into the thrift shop as the bare system unit, no power supply, nothing else at all. I would appreciate any information on power requirements and power pin out (a compatible power supply from another micro?). I know it takes ColecoVision cartridges from www.zock.com/8-Bit/D_Bit90.HTML, which is the best site I have found (out of just a few in all). Thanks Phil (Brisbane, Australia)

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Mystery board: 4MB memory marked "GS-2" by DEC?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Anyone know what a memory card marked "4 MB Memory Option" built by DEC with the number 5419051-AA and 5019050-01 A1-P2 on its edges might go to? Would anyone care to have it? (it doesn't seem to be a VAX memory board at all) --Chuck

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PDP 8/E partially restored

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Well, I have my PDP 8/e partially restored. I realized that I had the correct replacement bulbs for the front panel 'in stock', in that I obtained a bunch of used ones in some junk DEC peripheral parts earlier this summer. Is this dumb luck, or just the Computer Gods manipulating Fate again? Obviously, I'm a man of Science, so I'm leaning towards the Computer Gods scenario... All the panel lights are working, except the least significant bit (switch 12) on the lower display. There is some evidence that someone has replaced an IC on the front panel display board sometime in the past. I have 8K of core installed and I'm running the "initial operating check" from chapter 2 of the maintenance manual. So far so good. Does anyone have any small test routines that I might toggle in to futher test the core? I did switch in a different M8310/M8300 set, and that one panel light is still dead (and obviously I tried 2 working bulbs before i proceeded to more complicated stuff). Stuff I still need: 2-3 yellow switch handles, and possibly one switch to replace the EXTD ADDR LOAD switch someday. that switch does work, but it doesnt feel at all right... Also, I need some serial cables, as i dont have a single one... And I still want to find a supplier to buy some new front panel lamps from, at a reasonable price... I think I bought a PDP 8/e,f,m small computer handbook once, so I better go look that up! Anyone with a good suggestion on how to printout the small scans of that book thats on Highgate, so that it wills a Letter size sheet of paper, should contact me ;) -Lawrence (extraordinarily pleased with himself) LeMay

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Macintosh 1984 Commercial

by gsc＠zip.com.au

"David C. Jenner" <djenner(a)halcyon.com> writes: >Anyone know where I can find a (probably QuickTime) file >containing the entire 60-second version of the "Big Brother" >commercial for the Macintosh that played during the 1984 >Super Bowl? http://www.chiatday.com/product/historical_work/tv/1984/1984.html Sean Case

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Sad day...Jameco discontinues 6502

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I just got the latest issue of the Jameco catalog, and they've discontinued (at $5.95 no less), the stock 6502 processor. Is this the beginning of the end of the '02s availability? I know that CMD produces a C02 version (available in 100's quantities), but it's just not the same... Rich [ Rich Cini [ ClubWin!/CW1 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ <http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/> <================ reply separator =================>

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Macintosh 1984 Commercial

by djenner＠halcyon.com

Anyone know where I can find a (probably QuickTime) file containing the entire 60-second version of the "Big Brother" commercial for the Macintosh that played during the 1984 Super Bowl? Thanks, Dave

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VAX?PDP cab kit bonanza

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I was at a store today wading through a relatively large box of cab kits to find one for a VCB-03 and the owner made me an offer I couldn't refuse. I bought the whole box. However, not too suprisingly most of them are for DHV-11's (4 RS-232 ports and a ribbon cable). So I've got quite a few and willing to offer them for cost+ shipping. As follows: $6 gets two DHQ11 cab kits (8 ports total, two groups of 4) postage paid anywhere in the continental US. (Priority mail) $15 gets two cab kits *AND* a DHV-11 (8 port Q-bus board, quad wide) anywhere in the US. $15 get you two cab kits *AND* a UNIBUS DHU-11 (hex wide) (limited qty, I've got 3) If you want to add 8 serial ports to your Q-bus based vax or pdp this is a good deal. --Chuck

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Macintosh 1984 Commercial

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/28/00 5:00:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, David C. Jenner wrote: > > > Anyone know where I can find a (probably QuickTime) file > > containing the entire 60-second version of the "Big Brother" > > commercial for the Macintosh that played during the 1984 > > Super Bowl? > > Ditto. i have it on a mac advocate cd from 1997. i could probably be convinced to dig it up sometime. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! -> www.nothingtodo.org

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CBM 8032 and 8035

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

> > > I left behind (2) Commodor CBM 8032 systems both with the huge external > > > dual floppy drives. Units were intact, but what I would call average > > > dirty storage shape. If somebody in Socal wants the units let me know, \ > > > no way do I ship the monsters. How about the guts? Leave behind the iron frames and the massive transformers but box up the floppy drives and motherboards? I'd consider paying a few bucks over shipping for the active parts. I have several PETs that I'm restoring and I understand not wanting to mess with those heavy, bulky enclosures. I just had a PET 4016 (9" screen) shipped from SoCal. It was $35, but considering it was from the Physics Department at the college in Santa Barbara, it has this neat Lab I/O device plugged into the expansion bus and Katakana charaters on the keyboard next to the graphics symbols. I've never even seen a picture of one like this, but I digress. How much would you want to pull the good stuff out? Most important are the mainboards. Of secondary importance are the keyboards, and of minimal but some remnant of importance are the floppy drives. The entire lot should fit in a xerox paper box (if there's room to pad the 8032 boards. If it's too much hassle, I understand, but I have to ask. I'd rather see something survive than nothing. Of course, if anyone wants to get them, intact, they should receive preference. I'm only trying to save the good bits. Thanks, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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the other side of the equation - your SO/spouse

by mbg＠world.std.com

>> We had an agreement that if anything new came in, >> something had to go out. This has limited my collecting for a little >> while. >I had the same agreement... Some new "stuff" came in so, I tossed the old >"stuff" out. Now I live alone :-) Whoops... :-) Megan

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 28, 15:33, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > They look like: > > [Image] > > Very helpful... :-) Well, you could always follow the W3C recommendations and add ALT= captions to all of them and upload the page yet again at 33.6. Captions like "Pr1me PSU", "Part of Pr1me PSU", "Pr1me PSU and its environs", etc would be so much more helpful ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Robertson [mailto:steverob@hotoffice.com] > > So... Just what do the graphics look like in Lynx :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Catastrophic PSU failure (was Re: Apple IIGS for parts)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- John Honniball <John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk> wrote: > I think the easiest-to-find fault I've ever seen was in an > ICL One-Per-Desk, where a transistor in the driver circuit > blew up. It made a loud bang, leaving the plastic body of > the transistor in two pieces, one having two legs, and the > other having just one. I fixed a keyboard/monitor switch at work that a cow-orker had damaged by plugging in the wrong wall wart into - 48VDC (phone) instead of 9VDC. I opened the lid and saw the gaping hole in the 7805 and the mess made when the filter cap ruptured and vented its electrolyte. <$4 at Rat-Shack prices and it was back in business. The best part was the look on my boss' face when I told him we didn't need to buy a new one. He couldn't fathom how I could open up the box, look inside and figure out what was wrong without the aid of mechanical assistance. It seemed obvious to _me_ what was wrong. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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PDP 8/e memory boards

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>I also have a 16K core set, does anyone have any information on that >board? The highgate docs appear to be for a hex wide 16k board. > My scan on highgate is the 8/A version. I didn't know a DEC 16k was available for the 8/E, was this third party?. What are the board numbers? I think I have the 8k prints but they weren't where I though they should so will look further this weekend. Digital numbered the MSB (high) 0 always so EMA 0 is the 0/16k field select bit. On the 4k core when the link is in it selects a 0 for that line. Chapter 9 in the 8/E handbook on highgate documents the omnibus signals and section 4 pg 3-60 of the mantenance manual vol I documents the memory. Section 5 pg 3-93/3-96 documents the front panel. Several front panel schematics are also there. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

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PDP 8/e memory boards

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote: > Its a Dataram Corporation DR-118. 16K x 12. Its a 3 board stack, plugs into > only one quad slot, but the thickness prevents use of a second quad slot > in the 8/E omnibus. Nice. Good luck on docs, though. > ...16K using only 2 slots instead of 6, and not needing 8 of those 'top' > connectors Speaking of those top connectors (H7-something-something-something), does anyone have a supply of those available? I'm about to start making them myself - I have enough to interconnect my -8/e CPU but not any of the core. I've been working with a PDP-8/a hex MOS board (16K and 32K), but I'm not sure if the rev of the timing module I have generates the right signals to work with hex memory (there's an issue with CPU boards with three digits in the handle numbers vs. four; I have some of each from two CPUs) I'd love to remove one odd variable from the mix before I start to component-level debug my -8/e CPU boards. At least I have this late-1970s HP logic analyzer... I can attempt to set up stuff so it looks like the pretty pictures in the three-volume maintenance set. I may just order a bunch of connectors from DigiKey and make some new interconnects. A wad of work to be sure, but at least I'll never run out again. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4

by John.Honniball＠uwe.ac.uk

Having just reassembled a TRS-80 Model 4, I must have a quick rant about the way this machine is put together. If anything, it'll be a guide to future Model 4 owners (and the Model 3, presumably). I started off with a working machine but no boot disk. The message I got from the corrupt disk supplied was "ERROR". That's it, no more explanation, just one word. I was lucky enough to find a manual and a boot disk in a secondhand bookshop here in Bristol. So, I decided to try the machine again, but I didn't want to trash the new disk in a faulty drive (see, Tony, somebody's listening!). Take care when opening up the Model 4 because the CRT comes off with the lid, making it heavy and off-balance. The back end of the CRT (with the connector on) is very close to the internal metalwork of the chassis, too, so don't lift the lid off backwards. And don't forget to remove the single bolt from the top of the back of the lid. To get the drives out, you have to remove four bolts per drive. Top drive first, fiddle about with the cables, then the lower (drive 0). All seemed to be OK, so I tried to get them back in again. Turns out that you can't get the bolts back in without removing the power supply PCB. So, with the drives back in, I powered it up. No screen display at all, no "ERROR", nothing. Damn. After a while checking IC sockets and tracing video signals, I put the dud disk back in and got "ERROR", nice and clear on the green screen. You don't get any error message at all if there's no disk in the drive. Now I tried the new boot disk, and sure enough, it worked! First task, set the system date. According to the manual, it only accepts dates up to about 1987! Next, copy that good boot disk before I do something daft to it. I used the "backup" command, followed the prompts and... it failed. The new-looking disk actually has some blemishes on the oxide surface where it's been stored for so long. Oh, and if you try to boot a non-bootable disk, you get a nice friendly message about that disk being a data disk -- now why couldn't they make it say something when there's NO disk?? Finally, the serial port, external floppy disk port and expansion connectors are "convieniently located" on the underside of the machine. -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England

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Back to the A1097C monitor again

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Richard scribeth: > I've concluded that the best thing to do with a > fixed-frequency monitor > that's not made for your particular application is to give it > away or toss it. > I'm getting to that opinion meself :) a

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*** REDUX *** Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Ok, I've modified the image filenames, and regenerated the HTML to match. The resulting files and links no longer contain spaces, and I tested it using Navigator 3 which was still installed on the Mac sitting next to me. The link is the same; for those that missed it the first time, point your browser to: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html Be sure to refesh the page; your browser may have cached an older copy. regards, -doug quebbeman

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> I generally check major revisions of my web site out with IE, > NS and Lynx. So... Just what do the graphics look like in Lynx :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Back to the A1097C monitor again

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Well, I've already got the monitor in question since it's fastened to an HP workstation. What I was wondering was if it was possible to program the GeForce to run at 72hz for everything....hmm....the only reason I started on this was discovering it's really comparitively simple to change the monitor to allow h/v sync and I'd love a 19" monitor for Photoshop & web stuff - this one I'm using ATM at work is a 17" (DEC obviously :) running at 1280x1024 and it makes a hell of a difference! a > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:richard@idcomm.com] > Sent: 28 July 2000 15:21 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Back to the A1097C monitor again > > > Well, there would be exceptions. For example, if you have an > application > that COULD use the monitor in question, but doesn't because > it lacks the > appropriate video card. However, there are also other > questions. Would the > application of that monitor improve anything? That's a > question you have to > ansser before proceeding, but it should be asked before > hauling the thing > home. Monitors weigh so much they're even difficult to give away. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Adrian Graham <agraham(a)ccat.co.uk> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:32 AM > Subject: RE: Back to the A1097C monitor again > > > > Richard scribeth: > > > > > I've concluded that the best thing to do with a > > > fixed-frequency monitor > > > that's not made for your particular application is to give it > > > away or toss it. > > > > > > > I'm getting to that opinion meself :) > > > > a > > > > >

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

They look like: [Image] Very helpful... :-) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Robertson [mailto:steverob@hotoffice.com] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:16 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures > I generally check major revisions of my web site out with IE, > NS and Lynx. So... Just what do the graphics look like in Lynx :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > You guys really should upgrade from Mosaic to Internet > > Exploder 5, it handles those spaces pretty doggone well. Ya know, I should have realized, given that this group is dedicated to the care and feeding of old stuff, that sticking to the minimal subset of HTML would be de rigeur... > While I use IE5 and think it's the best broswer out there, it's not the > be-all and end-all of browsers, and cannot be relied upon to be the final > answer in whether something "works" or not since MS is of course notorious > for breaking the standards so meticulously set by the industry. Wait a minute, didn't you hear that Microsoft owns the Internet? I'm sure that's what my TV set told me the other day... > I generally check major revisions of my web site out with IE, NS and Lynx. > I don't expect you to do all this with just some pictures you posted of > course. The local organization that runs the cameras monitoring the Interstates is putting the images up in a Netscape-only mode, and it's got my cloth in a bind. I do actually use Lynx (well, MLynx) when I'm logged in to my ISP in shell mode... but not very often! -dq p.s. Revised content is streaming up as fast as 33.6 can do...

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > >> http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html > > >> > > >They all came up broken ... ? > > > > Not broken, but note that the fiilenames contain > > embedded spaces. > > How were you able to view them? Lynx and Netscape both objected. I use God's browser, Internet Exploder, er, Explorer. Version 5. With Active Desktop. Active Desktop's desktop-as-HTML sucks, but it imbues Windows with so many other useful features, and since Stardock's Object Desktop relies on Active Desktop's presence, why burden my machine with another browser? Actually, I do have Mosaic on here, still, somewhere... -dq

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Understand... yeah, I still figure I'll get yours here before I get mine fixed. Cross-referencing isn't going well. -dq -----Original Message----- From: Steve Robertson [mailto:steverob@hotoffice.com] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 1:59 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures Doug, I assume from the subject line and pictures, that you haven't got the PSU to work yet? I'm sure it's exactly the same as the one I've got sitting here. I'll get it in the mail in the next couple of weeks. Sorry I can't do it sooner but, I'm drowning in other comittments. Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: John Allain [ mailto:John.Allain@donnelley.infousa.com <mailto:John.Allain@donnelley.infousa.com> ] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 1:28 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures > > > >> http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html <http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html> > >> > >They all came up broken ... ? > > Not broken, but note that the fiilenames contain > embedded spaces. > > P.S. Don't scratch your nice woood floors > with all those metal parts! > > John A. >

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zenith minisport hd problems

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

went on a thrift store run today and thought i was going to get skunked, but at the last store i found a zenith minisport laptop with power supply for $5. its dirty and yellowed and didnt get the floppy drive either. seems to be a turbo xt with cga graphics. anyway, when i power it on, it stays on momentarily then goes off. no post beep and lcd doesnt light either. any ideas? i downloaded some archived minisport archives but havent looked at it yet.

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Apple IIGS for parts

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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Apple Johnathon & Apple Macintosh II: Seperated at birth?

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

I have read something at applefritter that intrigued me: that Apple was thinking about marketing a system known as the "Johnathon" (Successor the the Mac, perhaps?). The basic design was very similar to that of an Acorn RISC PC: You bought the base "module" (What OS that run? Mac OS?) as it was called, & you could buy additional modules that would allow you to run other operating systems. Unfortunately, Apple canned this computer because they thought that everybody would just buy the MS-DOS module. My question is: Was this the original concept for the Mac II, or is this something completely diffrent. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. ____________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

For any of those who have been following my thread on my Prime's dead PSU, or for anyone who might simply have an interest in seeing this machine, I've uploaded some pics taken with a digital camera to my web storage area. This link takes you to a page of thunbnails: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html >From there, you can choose a photo and get a page showing a larger version of it, along with navigation aids. Thanks to Album Express and Thotor, easy-to-use tools to create quickie photo albums like this one. regards, -doug quebbeman

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Other SS-50 (and SS-64) machines?

by foo＠siconic.com

I'm curious if anyone has heard of (or has) any of the following machines: Helix - a 68000-based SS-64 bus system (SS-64 was apparently an extended version of SS-50). Thomas Instruments 6802- (and 6805-) based micro that used the SS-50 bus. Tano Outpost or Outpost II - an SS-50 machine used primarily in industrial applications (the same company that later manufactured the Dragon). Anyone? Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

Doug, I assume from the subject line and pictures, that you haven't got the PSU to work yet? I'm sure it's exactly the same as the one I've got sitting here. I'll get it in the mail in the next couple of weeks. Sorry I can't do it sooner but, I'm drowning in other comittments. Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: John Allain [mailto:John.Allain@donnelley.infousa.com] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 1:28 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures > > > >> http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html > >> > >They all came up broken ... ? > > Not broken, but note that the fiilenames contain > embedded spaces. > > P.S. Don't scratch your nice woood floors > with all those metal parts! > > John A. >

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> For any of those who have been following my thread on my > Prime's dead PSU, or for anyone who might simply have an > interest in seeing this machine, I've uploaded some pics > taken with a digital camera to my web storage area. > > This link takes you to a page of thunbnails: > > http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html Reports of broken links are pouring in... You guys really should upgrade from Mosaic to Internet Exploder 5, it handles those spaces pretty doggone well. Seriously, I did in fact test these once I got them uploaded, and I did have to edit a few links. Try refreshing the page; and I really would like a report of the browser being used. Thanks, -dq

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Prime 2455 & Dead PSU Pictures

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 28, 11:42, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > This link takes you to a page of thunbnails: > > http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/p2455_index.html Except they're not visible on some systems :-) The URLs have spaces in them (not legal, only letters, digits and underscores are allowed unless encoded); you ought to convert the page source from (for example) <img src="http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/thmb_PSU DigiDaughter.jpg" width=150 height=100 border=0> to <img src="http://members.iglou.com/dougq/p2455/thmb_PSU%20DigiDaughter.jpg" width=150 height=100 border=0> (or change the filenames to remove the spaces, if you prefer). The pictures are good, though. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Calling Max Eskin

by foo＠siconic.com

Max Eskin just sent me an e-mail message today that was deleted on accident. Does someone have his current e-mail address? Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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Sorcerer Emulator goes freaking haywire

by foo＠siconic.com

I don't know if anyone else has experienced the same problem but I had a difficult time getting rid of the Sorcerer emulator (virus). I believe this was the Java emulator. I went to the website over a week ago and checked it out and then never went back again. However, today it popped up on it's own somehow (from one of my browser windows I think). I couldn't get rid of it. It seemed every window I clicked on, the emulator would try to establish a presence in that window. This included other programs, the toolbar, etc. I couldn't kill it from the program manager (CTRL-ALT-DEL) and closing all the browser windows didn't do any good either. I could still move my mouse but at that point nothing was responding. I did another CTRL-ALT-DEL and the window came up but I couldn't click any buttons. Finally I hit CAD a bunch of times in frustration and rebooted my machine. Someone ought to let the guy who wrote it know that he has a serious bug somewhere. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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zenith minisport hd problems

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I read some archived messages about this computer and seems to be the power board in the computer itself was/is dodgy so that's most likely the problem and i've not enough experience to diagnose and fix the problem. 8-( looks like this computer will go with the other nonworking machines like my kyotronic85 and ps2 model 90xp. In a message dated Thu, 27 Jul 2000 2:27:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "John Allain" <John.Allain(a)donnelley.infousa.com> writes: << This is the behavior of a machine with a dead battery. Some machines insist on sending the charger through the battery first and don't like operating with no battery or a dead one. Sometimes you can figure out how to get them to go directly off the charger. Not a definitive answer, but my $0.02. John A. -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:04 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: zenith minisport hd problems went on a thrift store run today and thought i was going to get skunked, but at the last store i found a zenith minisport laptop with power supply for $5. its dirty and yellowed and didnt get the floppy drive either. seems to be a turbo xt with cga graphics. anyway, when i power it on, it stays on momentarily then goes off. no post beep and lcd doesnt light either. any ideas? i downloaded some archived minisport archives but havent looked at it yet. >>

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Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

*grin* - you want to try dismantling a 4P then. Just as much fun :) > -----Original Message----- > From: John Honniball [mailto:John.Honniball@uwe.ac.uk] > Sent: 28 July 2000 16:45 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Tandy/Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4 > > > > Having just reassembled a TRS-80 Model 4, I must have a > quick rant about the way this machine is put together. If > anything, it'll be a guide to future Model 4 owners (and > the Model 3, presumably). >

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futute classic

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Windows ME is supposed to be the 'millennium edition'; in reality its just a minor bells and the occasional whistle update to 98. I've got a quote from Someone Important deep within M$ who, when asked to comment about ME, said 'I don't deal with toy operating systems'.....wish I could remember who it was.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net] > Sent: 28 July 2000 16:45 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: futute classic > > > At 12:14 PM 7/28/00 +0200, you wrote: > >Well, maybe of toppic by now, but MS has a promotional > >give away for Windows ME - at > >http://www.winmesweeps.com/ > > What the hell is Windows ME? Windows MistakE? FWIW > Windows CE is now > offically dead. I guess Billy Boy is going to try and pull > another fast one > on us and try to convince us that now we need to spend more > money and buy > his new and improved OS. > > Joe >

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Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Oops! I didn't mean to post to the list on this, sorry all! > -----Original Message----- > From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) [mailto:vaxman@uswest.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 8:40 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free > > > > Hi All, > > Whilst searching my office for another VGA controller I ran across > an un-opened (NIB!) OS/2 Professional Developers Kit (beta version) > CD. > > The sticker reads: includes NEW 3/93 OS/2 2.1 Beta > > If I recall correctly, this CD has everything you need to setup and > start developing an OS/2 machine. Since it's so old, you probably will > require a fairly generic 386 or 486 machine. > > Any offers? Reply off list please... > > clint > > PS If the demand is high enough, I'm willing to burn copies... (Nobody > tell IBM :) > > > >

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Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Ok... I'm interested. In fact, I've been looking for a copy of OS/2 newer than the 1.0 and 1.2 I've got for some time! How much? Or, whatcha looking for that you might take in trade? -dq > -----Original Message----- > From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) [mailto:vaxman@uswest.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 8:40 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free > > > > Hi All, > > Whilst searching my office for another VGA controller I ran across > an un-opened (NIB!) OS/2 Professional Developers Kit (beta version) > CD. > > The sticker reads: includes NEW 3/93 OS/2 2.1 Beta > > If I recall correctly, this CD has everything you need to setup and > start developing an OS/2 machine. Since it's so old, you probably will > require a fairly generic 386 or 486 machine. > > Any offers? Reply off list please... > > clint > > PS If the demand is high enough, I'm willing to burn copies... (Nobody > tell IBM :) > > > >

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Switching PSU Theory of Operation / Repair Tips & Techniques

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Well, the entire large PCB containing the secondaries > > is completely disconnected, removed, and set aside. > > In addition to the cable carrying +ve and -ve to that > > board, there are a few (two? I should have written that > > down) other cables that connect the two boards. So my > > only other theory is that some of what's on that board > > is involved in some kind of feedback process with the > > primary to step it up even higher. > > _Very unlikely_, since the capacitors are only rated for 250V. Ok, I grok this. > (b) aren't you using a good old electromagnetic meter ? Until I get the Fluke fixed... yup. > > Are you sure? My Alled Electronics catalog has thermistors, but only a > > few in the catalog is as large as these are- about 1 inch diameter. > > OK, they're special thermistors :-). They are low resistance, and they > are designed to carry heavy currents (unlike, say, the thermistors used > for temperature measurements). I've seen thermistors used like this in > PSUs before... > > And apart from that, a disc ceramic capacitor, or an MOV, makes no sense > electrically here. Like I said, I'm an analog idiot! -dq

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Subscription procedure

by donm＠cts.com

I am embarassed to admit it, but the information that I have logged for subscription actions is the old U. Washington one. Would someone please 'bandaid' my stupidity? (Gee, it was nice when the info was in the expanded header!) - don

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Announcing... Rent a wreck

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

This sounds like a great idea. One caution though -- using UPS between the US and Canada may be problematic. I'm in the process of being bitten on the rear end because of this. It appears that UPS in Canada will not ship "personal effects" to the US, nor will they insure them. According to the UPS claims folks in Canada, personal effects includes any item that is not a new commercial good. If it's used (like an old computer) it's "personal effects" and as such any damage or loss claims will be denied. I'm still hoping UPS will find my missing package from Canada (a DEC Computer Lab), but if not, I'm out $700 (yep, I got _really_ carried away on an ePay auction) and will be really bummed. -- Tony > ---------- > From: Mike[SMTP:dogas@leading.net] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:56 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Announcing... Rent a wreck > > Cool. I had a few encouraging replys. Here's the first list of available > stuff... > > 1. SWTPC 6800, CT-64, AC-30, PR-40 > 2. SWTPc 6800 > 3. SWTPc 6809 > 4. SWTPC S/09 > 5. Imsai 8080 > 6. Imsai 8048 > 7. Imsai VDP-40 > 8. Imsai VDP-80 > 9. OSI 500 > 10. OSI 600 > 11. OSI CII, C2D > 12. OSI CIIC12 > 13. OSI C2-OEM > 14. OSI CIII > 15. Northstar Horizon > 16. Northstar Advantage > 17. Exidy Sorcerer, S100 Expansion box, parts > 18. Homebrew (Thinker Toys s1000), 2 8' drives > 19. Homebrew 'The Puzzle' > 20. Kim-1 > 21. Kim-1, Kim-4, TVT, etc... > 22. Sym-1 > 23. Sym-1 > 24. Aim-65, Basic roms > 25. Aim-65, assembler > 26. Aim-65 > 37. HP-5036, logic probes > 38. HP-5036 > 39. HP 5036 > 40 Amd 2900 EVB, 4-bit CPU > 41. Motorola MEK-6800d2 > 42. Little Professor MPF-1 > 43. Cosmac ELF > 44. Cosmac ELF-II > 45. Cosmac SuperElf > 46. MITS Altair 680 > 47 Apple Lisa 2 > 48. Apple Lisa 2 > 49. Apple /// > 50. Apple Newton 2100, Keyboard > 51. Canon Cat, Printer > 52. Heathkit ET-3400, ET-3401 6800 Training courses > 53. Heathkit ET-3400, ETA-3400 > 54. Heathkit H-8, H-17, H-19 > 55. Heathkit H-8, H-17 > 56. Heathkit H-11, H-27 > 57. Heathkit H-89 > 58. Heathkit H-89 > 59. Heathkit Z-100 > 60. Vector 3, HD > 61. TRS-80 Model 1 and stuff > 62. TRS-80 Model 1 > 63. TRS-80 Model 1. > 64. TRS-80 Model 4p > 65. TRS-80 Model II > 66. TRS-80 Model 6000, 35mb HD, Xenix > 67. Commodore PET 2001-8K > 68. Commodore PET 4008 > 69. Commodore PET 4032 > 70. Commodore CBM 8032, 4040 Floppies > 71. DEC PDP 11/05 mini > 72. Honeywell 316 mini > > 73. S100 EPROM programmer > 74. S100 Disk Jockey > > Let me know if you want to play. > > Thanks > - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net > > >

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Slightly OT: OS/2 2.1 for sale/trade/free

by vaxman＠uswest.net

Hi All, Whilst searching my office for another VGA controller I ran across an un-opened (NIB!) OS/2 Professional Developers Kit (beta version) CD. The sticker reads: includes NEW 3/93 OS/2 2.1 Beta If I recall correctly, this CD has everything you need to setup and start developing an OS/2 machine. Since it's so old, you probably will require a fairly generic 386 or 486 machine. Any offers? Reply off list please... clint PS If the demand is high enough, I'm willing to burn copies... (Nobody tell IBM :)

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PDP 8/e memory boards

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I'm trying to get my 8/E working. I've installed a basic set of boards: M8330 M8310 M8300 (with jumpers to the previous board) M837 memory extension M849 RFI shield <memory> M8320 bus loads Well, first off, the extended address load switch seems to be broken, so I cant access extended memory (maybe I should yank the M837 board for now). I tried a few core memory sets, but I dont think they are working properly, or possibly they arent configured properly. The memory sense/inhibit boards have jumpers for selecting the memory field, I'm guessing you have to start at field 0 and increment in continuous fields? What about 8K boards, do you have an 8K at field 0, and an 8k at field 2, and the boards would be covering fields 0 - 3? Is EMA 0 the high or low bit on the field selector jumpers (on the memory sense/inhibit boards)? Whats kinda confusing me is that I have a pair of 8K core memory sets that came from one computer a LONG time ago, yet they are configured for fields 1 and 2, whereas I think they should be 0 and 2. I also have a 16K core set, does anyone have any information on that board? The highgate docs appear to be for a hex wide 16k board. I think the majority of lights on this computer are burned out, leaving about 8 bulbs working. Is there any way to verify that using front panel controls and no memory? -Lawrence LeMay

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Back to the A1097C monitor again

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> As you can see, there's ample opportunity for lots of work. > When you're done, however, you still have a fixed-frequency monitor, > though a nice one, and need another monitor and an A/B switch box > to switch the signal to the multisync monitor for text and other uses. > Like I said . . . it's a pain in the gluteus maximus. > A pretty decent 20" Sylvania multisync monitor with > really bright and sharp, as well as linear, image costs $279 > at Costco. Thanks for that, but TBH it's not worth the effort. I've got schematics for an SVGA-5 BNC box that I might build sometime, but before I even do that I've got to sort the monitor itself out. a

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An alternative to UPS

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

I just got off the phone with the shipper. No news yet, but he did confirm that once we've given up hope, he'll refund my money. Of course, what I _really_ want is for UPS to find the box. Aside from a picture on Eric's brouhaha web site, this was the first one of the DEC Computer Lab digital logic trainers I'd ever come across. I hate to think that UPS has somehow managed to lose it. -- Tony > ---------- > From: Eros, Anthony > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:12 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: An alternative to UPS > > When I talked to the shipper, I confirmed that I wanted the package > double-boxed and said I wanted it insured. UPS started a trace on the > package last Friday afternoon, so I'll be following up tomorrow. I > haven't > given up _all_ hope, but it isn't looking good. > > -- Tony > > > ---------- > > From: Joe[SMTP:rigdonj@intellistar.net] > > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:32 PM > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: RE: An alternative to UPS > > > > At 11:25 AM 7/27/00 -0500, Tony wrote: > > >I'll definitely be looking at alternatives in the future. The other > shoe > > in > > >this is that it appears the shipper didn't bother to insure the > package, > > >despite my instructions to the contrary. Of course, those instructions > > were > > >over the phone, not via e-mail, so I'm getting the "you didn't tell me > > you > > >wanted me to insure it". Gee, now why wouldn't I want it insured? :-( > > > > Did you pay the seller to insure the package? If so, then he owes > you > > even if he has to pay out of his own pocket. > > > > My 2 cents worth, > > Joe > > >

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An alternative to UPS

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

When I talked to the shipper, I confirmed that I wanted the package double-boxed and said I wanted it insured. UPS started a trace on the package last Friday afternoon, so I'll be following up tomorrow. I haven't given up _all_ hope, but it isn't looking good. -- Tony > ---------- > From: Joe[SMTP:rigdonj@intellistar.net] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:32 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: An alternative to UPS > > At 11:25 AM 7/27/00 -0500, Tony wrote: > >I'll definitely be looking at alternatives in the future. The other shoe > in > >this is that it appears the shipper didn't bother to insure the package, > >despite my instructions to the contrary. Of course, those instructions > were > >over the phone, not via e-mail, so I'm getting the "you didn't tell me > you > >wanted me to insure it". Gee, now why wouldn't I want it insured? :-( > > Did you pay the seller to insure the package? If so, then he owes you > even if he has to pay out of his own pocket. > > My 2 cents worth, > Joe >

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Shoddy UPS service

by pdp-11＠swbell.net

>There really is nothing wrong with the plain old United States Postal >Service. They are a bit more pricey and slower, but the boxes don't get to >the point where they need to be looked at by an insurance agent. Always use the potal service when you can. I would probably use FedEx if you don't like UPS. And Forward Air for the big stuff.

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