- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 03:47 PM 8/30/00 -0400, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: >I can't speak to that, but I have it on very good faith that a Hostess >snack cake does not get baked. In fact, it never comes close to an >oven; the cakes are "catalyzed". A fun summer course I had in college dealt with various aspects of agriculture and production of food: I learned how they make the meat for McNugget-like products (cook the poultry, blow/smash it hard against a screen to remove the meat) and things like the pimientos in olives (grind actual peppers into paste, add gel, pour into sheet, then slice 'n insert) or the hardboiled eggs in the salad bar (separate eggs into whites and yolks, cook in special machine that makes a "tube egg" a yard long, slice), etc. - John

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HP 82059D 110v to 6v AC power adapter ?

by kla＠helios.augustana.edu

Following my earlier post requesting more information on the HP 110+ Portable Plus MS-DOS computer (model 45711E), I am on the possible lookout for an HP power supply, Model no. 82059D which would have supplied 6V to this Portable Plus computer from the 110v US mains. Apparently this same power adapter worked with other HP parts, so may exist more commonly. Anyone have a working one to part with? My apologies also for saying that Mike Simms' FAQ on the 1xx series of HP portables did not provide the information needed -- indeed it did. I just did not read close enough. Sorry, Mike! thanks for any help. Cheers, Kevin Anderson Bismarck, North Dakota, USA home: K9IUA(a)juno.com (alternate: kla(a)helios.augustana.edu)

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power supply for HP 110 Portable Plus ?

by kla＠helios.augustana.edu

My son was given an HP Portable Plus (Model 110 I believe). It looks good, complete with Word and Lotus in the software "drawer". Unfortunately it lacks the external power supply/ recharger, so I don't know if it works. Can anyone tell me what power supply I need and/or the power requirements? The HP150faq does not give those types of specifics that I can see. Thanks. Kevin Anderson formerly of Augustana College, Rock Island IL now in Bismarck, ND home: K9IUA(a)juno.com (alternate kla(a)helios.augustana.edu)

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Need help on old parts??

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)smart.net> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Tony Duell wrote: > > Oh come on!. There are places for programmable logic, but this sure isn't > > one of them. > > Yes, that's what I think as well. > > > One of the rules that I work to when repairing a classic computer is to > > replace as little as possible (==keep as much of the original stuff as > > possible). So you repair a PCB rather than replacing it. You replace only > > the faulty component, not great blocks of logic. Why replace stuff that's > > working properly? > > In addition, those PALs/GALs will most likely fail before the rest of > the other older components would have failed. It makes no sense to > replace that which is working properly... In other words: "IF it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Mike

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HP 7878A tape drive available in Sacramento, CA

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, There's an HP 7978A tape drive (HP-IB, 6250 BPI) available for free (I think), for pickup in Sacramento, CA. The drive is currently in-use, working (AFAIK). This is a 5' high cabinet, about 3' deep, 2.5' wide. Email me if you're interested. Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

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IBM Monitor

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Pointer to powerdisplay20 specifications http://www.hms.labinf.it/pagine/ibm/pagine/periph/pd20.htm Discontinued 9/12/1995

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Rescue opportunity

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hey, folks, I may have an opportunity to pick up a "DataPoint" system... the one with the CPU in one module, storage in another, and they all sit on the floor (or table -- they're small!) and stack together side-by-side, joined with bus connectors on said sides? Each module is powered by an external 36VDC switcher module that runs from standard house power. I do like what I collect to be useful in some way, so I'd like to know what OS's I could use with the system, and if there are any 'gotchas' where hardware is concerned. Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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How to contact Rich

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Jerome: Here's my e-mail address: mailto:rcini@msn.com Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Jerome Fine [mailto:jhfine@idirect.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:34 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: How to contact Rich I noticed this reference, but it did not include a contact address. http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/pdpdocs.htm I think I remember seeing Rich on this list, but I am not sure. Does anyone have an e-mail address? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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How to contact Rich

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I noticed this reference, but it did not include a contact address. http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/pdpdocs.htm I think I remember seeing Rich on this list, but I am not sure. Does anyone have an e-mail address? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp - the review in brief

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Pied Piper Communicator 1 Specs: (eep - it cost ukp1000 in 1984!) Processor: Z80A RAM: 64K plus 2K screen memory ROM: 2K bootstrap, 2K character generator Text screen: 80x40 or 40x24 Graphics: none Keyboard: 64 moving keys, full size Interfaces: STO bus and Centronics Storage: 820K 5 1/4" disk OS: CP/M It also came with 3 packages, Perfect Filer (database), Perfect Writer (guess) and Perfect Calc (guess), although the reviewer is most critical of them! He also whinges about the 80 column screen mode that he can't get working and also that while CP/M 2.2 is the OS for the machine and there's bundles of software available he appears to be wishing it came with its own OS to make it stand out! Odd. I can scan the article if anyone needs more info, but TBH the review wasn't written by a technical journalist, eg he doesn't go into any detail as to what the STO bus is....I think the tech specs came straight from Canada and the pre-release model he had didn't include such things. He DID however, mention the possibility of an external floppy, hard drive, RS232 port and modem. a a

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

No problem - I've got to get up to my house today to get my bin back in before some lowlife nicks it ('steals it' for non-brits :) I know exactly where the mag is so I'll get something typed up or scanned later on. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Gregory [mailto:gregorym@cadvision.com] > Sent: 06 September 2000 17:20 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Graham" <agraham(a)ccat.co.uk> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:53 AM > Subject: RE: Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp > > > > If nobody else can come up with anything I've got a copy of Personal > > Computer News at home which ran an article on the Pied > Piper when it was > > released so I'll be able to give you the full rundown. > > > > a > > > > I'd appreciate you posting whatever you can find - I have a > Pied Piper too, > but no info at all. Not even a boot disk (Oh Hans ... ) > > Mark. >

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2nd life/info for IBM RS6000 type 7012?

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On 9/7 Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com wrote: > One thing to beware, at least on our 7012 machines, is that if you want to add a > keyboard, you need a special one. PC keyboard doesn't work (no need to guess > how I found that out a couple of office moves ago...). The keyboard is a Model M. The part number listed on it is either 13G4540 or 1394540. I could not distinguish the 'g' from a '9' on the label, although I suspect it is a 'G'. > Display is 1280*1024, > can't remember the scanning rates, on 3 BNCs, sync on green. An IBM 6019 is > recommended :-) Philip, I think you mean 6091, sometimes known as the 6091-19. I have a 5081-16 on my 320H and what documentation I have lists both monitors. Specs for the 6091 are: H Frequency : 63.36/81.32 KHz V Frequency : 60/67/77 Hz Resolution: 1024x1024 & 1280x1024 That brings me to an earlier posting I made: : Does anybody have the specs for an IBM POWERdisplay 20, p/n 09G3821? I am curious to know, if the 5081 goes south, if the POWERdisplay 20 will serve as a replacement. > Mouse is a standard PS/2 mouse - plugged it into my PC and it > the setup said it had detected a Logitech mouse... The part number for the mouse is 11F8895 Mike

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Robert Stek <r.stek(a)snet.net> >lesser known makes. The 10 hole hard sectored disks were not that difficult >to get (you can still buy them at California Digital - www.cadigital.com I >think). NorthStar was one of the first, if not THE first on the market with >a 5.25" system, and at $699 list with controller, they were $300 cheaper >than an 8" drive. A LOT of IMSAI owners also went with N*'s. For 8" drives Commentary and minor history items. What truely made the NS* popular was not only was there a drive and controller for $699 it included a DOS, Monitor and BASIC and in 1977 Billy G was getting 350$ for casette basic and 500$ for disk basic!! NS* filled two aching niches, lack of reliable inexpensive storage and a decent OS with a useful language. FYI: NS* Basic was one of the few that would support multiling functions and even recusive subroutine calls. While it had it's flaws at the DOS level (lacking in dynamic disk space allocation) it made up for in memory efficientcy, reliability, speed and ease of programming. There were better and more sophisticated products they all came for a bigger price. >finicky, and CP/M became the universal standard. Someone eventually did >adapt CP/M to run on the Helios, but by that time PT had disappeared. CP/M was adapted to everything! I wonder if by 1980 everything was adapting to CP/M. >And yes, N* DOS has four entry points - These are the basic bare bone NS* drivers for Horizon (8251 USART). The drivers shown do not use the device selection capability in NS* DOS, up to 7 devices could exist and the device was passed in ACC at call. Here the rough code. Loc 02 in this case is data buffer Loc 03 is the status port Bit 0 is tx buffer empty Bit 1 is RX buffer full Character-IN, test for and get a character from the input device. 2013h JMP CIN ; CIN ; CONSOLE IN RETURN CHAR IN Acc ; CIN: IN 03 ANI 02 JZ CIN IN 02 ANI 07Fh RET C-OUT, Test port for ready and output char in B. 200Dh JMP cout ; COUT ; CHARACTER OUTPUT ROUTINE GOES HERE ; CHAR TO GO IS IN 'B' ; ; SIO DRIVER COUT: IN 03 ANI 1 JZ COUT MOV A,B OUT 02 RET cont-C, Test char stream return with Z set if there was Ctrl-C. 201Ch JMP ctrlc ; CTLC ; CONTROL C ROUTINE GOES HERE ; RET Z=1 if control C otherwise Z=0 ; ; SIO DRIVER ; CTRLC: IN 03 ani 02 ; test for char wating XRI 02 ; use Xor to flip the Z bit RNZ NONE ; none? then bail IN 02 ; get data ANI 07Fh ; mask to ascii CPI "CTRLC" ; is it CTRLc RET Terminal-INIT used to setup or initalize the terminal (if needed). 2013h JMP TINIT (if needed) or RET (if not) - which must be patched to corresponding SOLOS routines in >ROM. If you are really stuck, email off list for some helpful info. Allison

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DEC Vax questions?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Neil Cherry <ncherry(a)home.net> > >Model 640QS-B2 BA213 >MS650/M7621 KA640/M7624 >M7559 >DSV11-SA/M3108 >M9060-YA >KSQSA/M5976-SA >TQK70/M7559-00 >M9060-YA It's a microvax of mid generation say MVIII. > >Can these machines run Linux or NetBSD. Where do I get OpenVMS? And yes Forget Linux, no ported. NTbsd may run ig you have disks, dont see them on the list nor do I see eithernet. Check out NetBSd port VAX. >I'm pretty sure that we are licensed for VMS (Corp ITS is crazy about >that kind of thing!). VMS without license is useless (it is keyed!). Check the DECUS.org web page and Montagar.com. IT likely ram VMS in the V5 era or later and could have run also run Ultrix (unix of the BSD flavor with DEC tweeks). Allison

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Don't have those pages (or the manual!) - do you know if they are on the >WWW anywhere? Well I'd look in the 'net but you could too. So happens I have the manuals >from my purchase back in '76 or was it '77. Allison

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by r.stek＠snet.net

NorthStar sub-systems were by far the most popular 5.25" systems for the Sol. Second would have been Micropolis, then perhaps Vista, and other lesser known makes. The 10 hole hard sectored disks were not that difficult to get (you can still buy them at California Digital - www.cadigital.com I think). NorthStar was one of the first, if not THE first on the market with a 5.25" system, and at $699 list with controller, they were $300 cheaper than an 8" drive. A LOT of IMSAI owners also went with N*'s. For 8" drives the Tarbell controller was popular, but the Morrow Disk Jockey (I and II) was probably the most common. There were many 8" drive controllers - CCS, SSM, Godbout, etc. - for CP/M. ProcTech's Helios had a two board set for their Pertec 8" drives in an impressive enclosure, and they did use the 32 hole hard sectored 8" disks. Their PTDOS was more than adequate and comparable to CP/M, but the Helios was very expensive, the drives were finicky, and CP/M became the universal standard. Someone eventually did adapt CP/M to run on the Helios, but by that time PT had disappeared. And yes, N* DOS has four entry points - Character-IN, C-OUT, cont-C, and Terminal-INIT - which must be patched to corresponding SOLOS routines in ROM. If you are really stuck, email off list for some helpful info. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Noel <Mike-Noel(a)GCI.net> > >I have a N* controller (attached to a pair of N* drives) attached to a >SOL. I think the controller and drives work (they appear to boot an NOS >disk but nothing happens on the screen) but I haven't been able to find >doc on configuring NOS for SOL. Anyone have that or able to explain >what I have to do? If you have the NS DOS manuals it's inthere all maybe 6 pages of it. The SOL was not the defacto IO so you have to setup for that and likely Bob Stek has it already done. It's very straightforward for the SOL. Allison

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> >> I have a N* controller (attached to a pair of N* drives) attached to a >> SOL. I think the controller and drives work (they appear to boot an NOS >> disk but nothing happens on the screen) but I haven't been able to find >> doc on configuring NOS for SOL. Anyone have that or able to explain >> what I have to do? > >Sounds very familiar... seems like you have to patch the N* controller >ROM to use the SOLOS ROM jump table entries for get a character/display >a character... Jim Battles, Bob Stek, and I should all have this info >somewhere in SOLUS NEWS/PROTEUS NEWS? > >Guys? Does that sound right? No. The Solos roms conveniently provide nice IO for Charin and Charout the boot rom on the NS* controller is strictly boot(no other IO). And the standard NS* DOS is setup for 8251 usarts as in the NS* Horizon. So to bring uo NS* DOS on anything else you need e800h->efffh clear for the boot rom. NS* DOS wants ram starting at 2000h which most systems will do nicely (those that have rom usually have it at 0000 or FXXXh). With that You boot NS* DOS and halt it after boot appears done then using whatever debugger or memory editor you patch the jump table for YOUR IO (there is space if you need to code it). you write that out to a new disk after warm boot and now you have custom NS* DOS for your hardware. If your using NS* CP/M or the UCSD Pascal System the procedure is similar. Allison

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Sudbrink <bills(a)adrenaline.com> >Hopefully, in the next week or two, I'm going to be >getting a SOL. In anticipation of this, I'm wondering >what floppy interfaces one might expect to find in >a SOL. The one I'm getting does not have a floppy card Most likely a Northstar* MDS, Helios and maybe Icom FDOS there are toehrs but those were "of era". >in it. Looking around, I see that some people have >NorthStars in theirs. I have a spare N* floppy controller, >but I'd rather not go this route as the hard sectored >media is difficult to find. I'll have to inventory my >S-100 cards... I know I have a couple of Cromemcos 4FDC >and 16FDC cards. Would someone have put one of these in >a SOL? I'm not asking if it can be made to work. I'm >trying to get a sense of whether it's appropriate or if >it would be like putting a SoundBlaster32 with 16 Megs >of memory in an original 6MHz PC-AT with a 512K >motherboard. Keep in mind a SOL is 2mhz 8080 and without a DMA based FDC 8" double density is not easily done. It will do 5.25 double density however. Allison >

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by bills＠adrenaline.com

Hopefully, in the next week or two, I'm going to be getting a SOL. In anticipation of this, I'm wondering what floppy interfaces one might expect to find in a SOL. The one I'm getting does not have a floppy card in it. Looking around, I see that some people have NorthStars in theirs. I have a spare N* floppy controller, but I'd rather not go this route as the hard sectored media is difficult to find. I'll have to inventory my S-100 cards... I know I have a couple of Cromemcos 4FDC and 16FDC cards. Would someone have put one of these in a SOL? I'm not asking if it can be made to work. I'm trying to get a sense of whether it's appropriate or if it would be like putting a SoundBlaster32 with 16 Megs of memory in an original 6MHz PC-AT with a 512K motherboard.

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SOL floppy subsystem options

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Closely related question - > > I have a N* controller (attached to a pair of N* drives) attached to a > SOL. I think the controller and drives work (they appear to boot an NOS > disk but nothing happens on the screen) but I haven't been able to find > doc on configuring NOS for SOL. Anyone have that or able to explain > what I have to do? Sounds very familiar... seems like you have to patch the N* controller ROM to use the SOLOS ROM jump table entries for get a character/display a character... Jim Battles, Bob Stek, and I should all have this info somewhere in SOLUS NEWS/PROTEUS NEWS? Guys? Does that sound right? -dq

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Lynklyte III terminal by Lynk

by whdawson＠mlynk.com

Hello again from the land of Hidden Treasures, Canonsburg, PA 15317. Available for a small donation and shipping cost, or they end up in the dumpster: 2 Lynklyte III terminals by Lynk with keyboards, one yellowed, one not. On the back: Appear to have ethernet thick? (2 pin coax) connection, with RJ-45 adapters. Printer port, DB-25M Cartridge slot Keyboards resemble IBM AT style, some keys labeled differently. Plug looks the same as XT/AT also. Please contact me off list if interested. Bill Your computer will do far more than you ever expected it to, and that won't be enough. Pournelle's First Law

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2nd life/info for IBM RS6000 type 7012?

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

>> Might be . . . I think that is a Power PC chip and there is a Linux for PPC, >> but sold under the Macintosh banner. I have a PPC distro, but it is geared >> for the PPC card in an Amiga. > > Not necessarily -- it could be the old POWER architecture. There is no Linux > for that, at least that I'm aware of. We have three 7012s at work. Two are model 320, one (the one which actually booted last time I switched it on!) is a model 375. They use the old Power RISC chipset in its various incarnations. We migrated to a Sun 450 about 2 years ago when we discovered that all the RS/6000 models in our price range were PPC and slower than our existing 375 (the exception being the model 397 - presumably another 7012 - but even that was a bit expen, and we wondered how long they'd go on supporting it) > I run AIX 4.1.4 on this Apple Network Server 500, which is itself a PPC 604e. > LinuxPPC is *kind of* supported on this platform -- I hear it still has some > X issues. Never mind, I love SMIT always. ;-) ROFL! But Solstice is worse... One thing to beware, at least on our 7012 machines, is that if you want to add a keyboard, you need a special one. PC keyboard doesn't work (no need to guess how I found that out a couple of office moves ago...). Display is 1280*1024, can't remember the scanning rates, on 3 BNCs, sync on green. An IBM 6019 is recommended :-) Mouse is a standard PS/2 mouse - plugged it into my PC and it the setup said it had detected a Logitech mouse... Philip. This message and any attachments are confidential and should only be read by those to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us, delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. Any distribution or copying without our prior permission is prohibited. Internet communications are not always secure and therefore the Powergen Group does not accept legal responsibility for this message. The recipient is responsible for verifying its authenticity before acting on the contents. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Powergen Group. Powergen plc. 53 New Broad Street, London EC2M 1SL Telephone +44 (0) 2476 42 4000 Fax +44 (0) 2476 42 5432

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beginer WAX

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Hi >It is a nice VAX, and it has everything onboard. No option slots AFAIK. >It is certanly a good starter-model, but keep in mind that you can just >run OpenVMS or Ultrix on it. No NetBSD (at the moment). >But OpenVMS is a very very nice system too. >How much is it?! With or without monitor? RAM? Disc? It has 8mb ram and a harddrive, the owner wantede 500 Dkkr for it. I just lookeed at netbsd and it seems that of netbsd 1.5 the Vaxstation 4000 vlc is supportede. Regards, Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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finally got my website "on-line"

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hello all. I have published my PDP-11 webpages. Allthough they are not finished (will they ever be?), I am going public because otherwise it will never happen -:) Enjoy reading, and I am looking forward to any comments. Happy collecting, Henk Gooijen, PDP-11 collector gooi(a)oce.nl henk.gooijen(a)12move.nl Sneak-peek of retro-computing: http://home.12move.nl/~sh416008

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

> >I'd appreciate you posting whatever you can find - I have a Pied Piper too, >but no info at all. Not even a boot disk (Oh Hans ... ) > Emailed. Any other requests?

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

Pictures: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1166661&a=8583124 -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, 7 September 2000 2:22 Subject: Re: Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp >On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Olminkhof wrote: > >> I have a new find that doesn't seem to be documented on the Web so far. >> It's a "Pied Piper" by Semi-Tech Electronics Corporation of Menlo Park, >> California. >> >> It seems to work perfectly and came with a little documentation and a CP/M >> boot disk. It is a portable, a little larger than a C64 with a carry handle, >> a cover for the keyboard and a diskette drive built in. Docs are copyright >> 1982. Has a composite monitor connector that I'm using. > >By all means, post a picture! > >Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Looking for a six in a pile of nines... > > VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 > San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California > See http://www.vintage.org for details! > > >

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Pre/Post VCF touring/shopping advices

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi, Does anyone here have a few tips and trick for those of us wanting to make the most of our VCF trip? Any good places in the area to visit (hobby related that is) thrifts, surpluses etc... Thanks for the tips. Francois PS: Even you local can pitch in, it only for one week-end and then everything will be back to normal :)

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New Find

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up a Sun SPARCstation 370 today, looks like some cards are missing has several open slots. Will give more details as I start working with it. PS. To Mr. Lemay went by the U today and it was empty ? What happen to all those items you saw there ? John Keys

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Need help on old parts??

by djg＠drs-esg.com

> From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com> > > Hi > I need some pinouts for some old TTL? or DTL? parts > These are in my computer and I think one of them is > causing a failure. These are all TI parts: > > I am especially interested in the > SN15861 and SN15849. > If you can say you are with (or are) a company you can get the datasheets >from http://www.freetradezone.com If you can't and haven't gotten the information email me and I will get it for you. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

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Data General AViiONs and other 88k systems

by cnelson＠dallas.net

I am interested in Motorola 88k based systems like the Data General AViiON and related information. I have a small website www.m88k.org and wish to expand it's content. Thanks. Chris Nelson cnelson(a)dallas.net webmaster(a)m88k.org

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PDP / VAX FS: Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

If interested in any of this stuff, please mail me off-list. I'm running out of room so some of this has to go.. (make offer) PDP-11/02 in BA11-VA chassis, with: RS232 console serial card RAM card RX01 disk controller card CPU card (not at home now, dont have the exact numbers) Pictures: http://www.pdp11.org/pics/pdp-front.jpg http://www.pdp11.org/pics/pdp-back.jpg http://www.pdp11.org/pics/pdp-back-closeup-1.jpg Local buyers: will throw in the dual-unit RX01-compatible floppy drive unit (its WAAAY too heavy to ship): http://www.pdp11.org/pics/eight-inch-floppys-front.jpg http://www.pdp11.org/pics/eight-inch-floppys-switches.jpg and an original VT102 with manual: http://www.pdp11.org/pics/pdp1102.jpg I've also got a VAXstation 4000-VLC with 16mb and a VS3100-M38 with 16mb that I'll let go dirt cheap. Anyway, mail me off-list if anyone is interested in this stuff - I've become too busy to work with it lately and it needs a good caring home. Also have a (dunno how old it is) Livingston Portmaster IRX 2-port console/terminal server/router. Bill -- +-------------------\ /-----------------+ | Bill Bradford | www.sunhelp.org | | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | www.decvax.org | | Austin, Texas USA | www.pdp11.org | +-------------------/ \-----------------+

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

If nobody else can come up with anything I've got a copy of Personal Computer News at home which ran an article on the Pied Piper when it was released so I'll be able to give you the full rundown. a > -----Original Message----- > From: Olminkhof [mailto:jolminkh@nsw.bigpond.net.au] > Sent: 06 September 2000 11:51 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp > > > I have a new find that doesn't seem to be documented on the > Web so far. > It's a "Pied Piper" by Semi-Tech Electronics Corporation of > Menlo Park, > California. > > It seems to work perfectly and came with a little > documentation and a CP/M > boot disk. It is a portable, a little larger than a C64 with > a carry handle, > a cover for the keyboard and a diskette drive built in. Docs > are copyright > 1982. Has a composite monitor connector that I'm using. > > I'd appreciate someone putting this into a bit more context for me. > > Thanks, > Hans > > >

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Pied Piper by STM Electronics Corp

by jolminkh＠nsw.bigpond.net.au

I have a new find that doesn't seem to be documented on the Web so far. It's a "Pied Piper" by Semi-Tech Electronics Corporation of Menlo Park, California. It seems to work perfectly and came with a little documentation and a CP/M boot disk. It is a portable, a little larger than a C64 with a carry handle, a cover for the keyboard and a diskette drive built in. Docs are copyright 1982. Has a composite monitor connector that I'm using. I'd appreciate someone putting this into a bit more context for me. Thanks, Hans

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2nd life/info for IBM RS6000 type 7012?

by claudew＠funcow.com

Hi I know very little about Rs6000's and IBM AIX... Got this for free...80M Ram, 2 SCSI drives, no keyboard or monitor. Sabine video card and token ring card. Connected Wyse 60 to Modu-10 serial port connector (made cable and connector - such fun) and worked when I got it with AIX already on HDs. Did not have root and HD was a mess so took drives out and used them for something else. Was told AIX needed for this machine was specific version and had to be installed from IBM tape drive ou IBM CDROM or it would never install...tried a "AIX 4.2.1 entry server" on cdrom with Toshiba and other non-ibm SCSI cdroms and never booted or installed doing proper install procedure. Cdrom could be seen and read when old AIX was on there and cdrom connected to scsi chain...I know Sabine card not supported in 4.x Aix anyways... It's micro-channel arch. I think there is no Linux for this... Now machine sits in corner with vintage pc collection taking up more and more space. It's either gotta do something usefull besides sitting on it's side...or will be put up for trade/sale...I really don't wanna bother selling this...I am trying to limit collection of vintage PCs to "home pc's" so this one won't stay for collection even if now about 10-11 years old... Anybody any ideas or suggestions??? Is it worth it? Thanks for reading Claude

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Want a nice supercomputer ... ?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

if your going to post this at least a brief descrption for those of us that really dont care to navagate ebay. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Pat Barron <pat(a)transarc.ibm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Want a nice supercomputer ... ? >Check this out ... > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=426080142 > >--Pat. > > >

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Link MC70 terminal?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Hello All, Over the weekend I was offered a free "color DEC terminal" which I _thought_ was a VT340 by the description, so I said "Sure, I'll come over and take it off your hands." but what it was is something called a "Link MC70". This was used with a VAX apparently (even has a DEC keyboard layout with the "Do" key!) , and can also do graphics. The web says it is 4014 compatible (but no ReGIS as far as I can tell). Does anyone know anything about this terminal? It is dual session so I'll probably hang on to it. --Chuck

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Got Trillium Talkto 616 PBX kit in vintage computer lot...anybody familliar with this unit?

by claudew＠funcow.com

Hi I know this is slightly off subject but I now know this group has such a variety of people with experience in such different field of electronics...I work with a team of 40 electronics techs for a living but none of these have worked a lot with phone/pbx stuff... Got this whole PBX kit in a lot of old/vintage computers I bought. Cost came out to about $15...with 6 hands-free phones...I am thinking of installing it in my 3 floor house...I have 6 clean hand-free phones, the ksu, io cable for stations... I have the manuals for the phones but not for the ksu. I wired up one phone with the ksu and everything seems to work...I suppose the KSU has some default settings...but I really wanna get my hands on the KSU manual...ksu has dip switches with PROGRAM next to them...anybody ever work with one of these or have the KSU manual?...Anybody got one of these pbx's in a house and wanna gimmie pointers for setup/install? Thanks for reading Claude

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March 1984 issue of HP Journal ?

by jate＠uwasa.fi

Hello all. In my ongoing search for all things HP 9000 Series 500 I accidentally stumbled into HP Journal. HP has a database on the web with just the article names: http://www.hp.com/hpj/journal.html But there seems to be a bug of sorts (I think I ought to report it to HP). Try searching for HP 9000 Series 500, and you'll get one article: Mar-1984, HP-UX: Implementation of UNIX on the HP 9000 Series 500 Computer System by, Now try to browse Mar-1984: A Local Area Network for the HP 9000 Series 500 Computers Does anybody have the magazine (and be willing to sell it :) or if somebody has it could they give a list of the articles and some info on is it worth ordering as a reprint. Any other 9000/550 trivia gratiously accepted as it's quite difficult to find information about them. -- Jarkko Teppo jate(a)uwasa.fi

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TRS-80 Model II

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2000-09-03 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said to kees.stravers(a)iae.nl >I have several TRS-80 Model II (w/ 8" drives) without keyboards. >Are the Model III keyboards compatible? No, they need a keyboard that uses a special serial protocol. The keyboard looks a bit like a Model I. >Also, if anyone wants one of these things, $10 plus shipping. The >condition is unknown since I haven't fired them up ... and they >don't include keyboards :). I think I have enough :) see: http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/modelii.html Kees. -- Kees Stravers - Geldrop, The Netherlands - kees.stravers(a)iae.nl http://www.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ My home page (old computers,music,photography) http://www.vaxarchive.org/ Info on old DEC VAX computers Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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eprom 23c256

by rachael_＠gmx.net

I have a problem with the eprom used in a IBM 5160 it`s labelede 23c256 so I suppose that I need to build somekind of adaptor before I can read it out with my eprom burner. Does anyone know where to find the pinout of such a thing ? Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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Need help on old parts??

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> I received a pdf from one of the others on the list. The pdf shows >that the 861 is not exactly like the 7420, in that the unused pins >of the 7420 are for gate expansion on the 861. The circuit that uses the >part, I think is failing, doesn't use these pins. The biggest potential >problem I see is that the original designer used two outputs tied >together. This means that the other output has to pull it down >as well. I tried a 74LS20 and it didn't work but I think it is >just that the 74LS20's have a strong pull-up. I'll try to locate >a 7420 and give it a try. I've also found a part supplier that No No NO! TTL aka 7420 has an active pullup and one output will fight another. Those parts are RTL/DTL and the ouputs are either open collector (is there a pullup resistor?) or have an internal Pullup. So if you going to try TTL use parts that are open collector like 7401 or 7403... Allison >stocks old DTL and even RTL parts. I haven't contacted them >yet but if the 7420 doesn't work I'll give them a try. They >have these in the Motorola part numbers. For others looking for old >parts, they are: > >http://lansdale.com/~lansdale/index.html > > I'm sure these will be expensive but then what the heck. >Thanks for the reply >Dwight > >

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DG guy

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Coincidentally, I've got mail here from a DG-guy looking for other DG preservationists. The appropriate bits follow. I'm sure he'd love to hear from all interested parties. Cheers, Bill. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | To: History Preservation Buffs | | In a little over 30+ years Data General has gone from exciting startup | computer company, to number two minicomputer company, to almost a footnote | in our memories. The recent buyout by EMC has effectively closed the door | on any corporate interest in saving this important part of computer history. | | A recent increase in 16-bit Nova and Eclipse activity(!) and has made us | decide to split off a separate web site - www.SimuLogics.com - to try to | deal with these situation. The intent is to salvage, restore, preserve and | archive all of the 16-bit Nova, Eclipse and compatible hardware, software | and documentation possible. As part of this effort we have donated most of | our own DG systems to the various museums, educational institutes and | collectors. We are also transferring all manuals and software to CDROM to | preserve this heritage. | | Various clients and vendors have also supported this effort by providing | hardware, software and documentation that we are transferring to CDROM for | archival and historical purposes. | | The www.SimuLogics.com web site's nostalgia section is planned to be the | starting point for an expanded area for this highlight in computer history. | | Now I'm scrounging trying to find any and all Nova- and Eclipse-type stuff | to resurrect, restore and run, and am seeking any Nova/Eclipse/RDOS/AOS | hardware/software/documentation that could be preserved - any items that | might be even loaned for testing and/or archival purposes would be | appreciated. Also, any good tidbits or other such stuff would be great to | include in the triva section for posterity. | | And third-party DG look alikes are also being sought. Point 4, Bytronix, | IDP and others were important sub-markets within the DG area along with | third-party operating systems such as MICOS, BITS, VMOS. | | And site comments/ridicule/suggestions are always welcome! | | Bruce Ray | bkr(a)SimuLogics.com | www.SimuLogics.com | | Parent company: | | Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc. | P O Box 3581 | Boulder, Colorado 80307-3581 | USA | vox: (303) 466-7717 | fax: (303) 465-5780 | bkr(a)WildHareComputers.com | www.WildHareComputers.com ... and ... | P S I wrote some of the Keronix system software (KMOS) and other stuff | for Keronix in '73 and '74, and Doug Chadwick wrote an IRIS BASIC system | for them (called BITS). I loved my personal IDP 16 with light blue case | and red LEDs and could perhaps answer other questions you might have. I | think you responded to a thread on the San Gabriel Keronix question...

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beginer WAX

by rachael_＠gmx.net

I`m having the opportunity to buy a VAXstation 4000 VLC, would anyone recomment it, as a "my first VAX" ? Or should I go for another model ? Regads Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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March 1984 issue of HP Journal ?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jarkko Teppo <jate(a)uwasa.fi> wrote: (HP9000 series 550) > I have yet to figure out a *safe* way to clone the OS to another > disk for backup. I recommend reading the following man pages as a start: osmgr(8), sdfinit(8), mkrs(8). Follow the "see also" links in the pages for more info. Having a 9144 or equivalent CS/80 cartridge tape drive (and cartridges) could be a Good Thing, that's the sort of device that mkrs wants to build its bootable tape filesystem upon. -Frank McConnell

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New Toy

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up a FLUKE 8000A Digital Multimeter (92270) at the yard for a couple dollars. Seems to power up but no leads came with it. No doc's either, can I use some Radio Shack test leads with this unit ? John Keys

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Apple-1 Auction at VCF 4.0

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The owner of the computer, Ray Borrill, operated a chain of > computer stores in the Midwest in the late 70's, one of the first > in the nation. This particular Apple-1 was one of 15 units > ordered directly from Steve Jobs. It was used as a display model > and was never sold. Borrill decided to hold onto it through the > years for posterity. Borrill, now retired, has decided that it's > time to pass the machine on to someone else who will continue to > appreciate it as he did. Fascinating... Ray's Apple was the first and only one I ever used; when I saw it, it had what appeared to be a Radio Shack transformer supplying power to it. Just a bare board, and ISTR it was connected to a TV set via an RF-modulator, and was running Spacewar. Could be wrong, Spacewar may have been running on one of the other machines Ray had at the Bloomington, IN store of his DataDomain chain. To anyone who'll be there, bidding on this, please bid vigorously; Ray has health problems and really, really needs the money. My SOL would never have made it to adulthood without his help. -dq

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Data General Eclipse

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Any DG AOS/VS people out there? I helped evaluate the Eclipse around 1980 when our local Indiana Unversity campus was trying to break free from our total dependence on the centralized IU computing factilities in Bloomington and Indianapolis. It had a lot to offer, but we like Pr1me better, and went that route. IIRC, the Eclipse architecture was an evolution of the DG Nova architecture. It's development is the subject of Tracy Kidder's "Soul of a New Machine", a book I'd highly recommend reading. regards, -doug q

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What kind of tape is this? [+ how can I hack it?]

by yoda＠isr.ist.utl.pt

Is there anyone in _europe_ that could be kind enough to read my 9-track tape? (all postal expenses paid, of course) As last resort I'll ask someone in USA to do it (thanks to the ones that offered!). Cheers, -- *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda(a)isr.ist.utl.pt> *** Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda *** Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR: *** Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboa *** Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGAL *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10 31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585

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Need bezel for DEC TLZ06-AA

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

IIRC the only full-height TLZ06 was the TLZ6L autoloader; the full height TLZ04 was an option on the R400X expansion box though, but it was a proper full height drive and not a half height hiding behind a big bezel! For PC mounting it should slide straight into a standard removeable drive bay and connect to any 8 bit SCSI card, for a uVAX II it'll have to be a hack since the only supported drives in those were TK50/TK70 that connected to their own controller cards (TQK50 and TQK70). The (I think) KFQSA was a v.expensive quad-height QBUS SCSI card but I think it only had external connections.....I can dig out some old books if it'll help. a > -----Original Message----- > From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) [mailto:vaxman@uswest.net] > Sent: 04 September 2000 00:40 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Need bezel for DEC TLZ06-AA > > > > Hi, > > I recently purchased a few DEC TLZ06-AA DAT drives, and they arrived > today. Unfortunately, The bezel on them is the width of a 3.5" drive, > but the height of a half-height 5 1/4" drive. > > Does anyone know where I can get normal 5 1/4" bezel for them? > Any suggestions on how to mount them in a PC and a uVAX II? > > Thanks, > clint >

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