For what it's worth... I've driven a 3/4 ton pickup with an 11/34A, VAX
11/750, 11/84 (in dual wide cabinet), NCR Tower 32/600, Terak, 2 TU80's, and
a PDP-8/i in it.. theres a way to get odd looks...
Will J
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>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Ethan Dicks
> <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > If you did, it would _crawl_. The CPU in the Palm is an enhanced 68000
> > processor running at a fairly low speed (16Mhz? 20Mhz?). I think it would
> > be cool, too, but intolerably slow.
>
> Slow? I've programmed an Atari ST with a 68000 at 8MHz,
> and it only had 512kbytes of memory!
And I've programmed many an Amiga similarly equipped.
I was thinking back to running the PDP-11 emulator on a SPARC1 - it was
substantially slower than the real thing, but barely tolerable. The Palm
would have to be slower than that.
> According to the
> O'Reilly book, on the Palm Pilot "Memory is Extremely
> Limited". Well, mine's got 2Mbytes, which isn't limited at
> all compared to the Atari...
Yes, but remember that the 2Mb is all of your storage _and_ running memory.
It's like running an Amiga with 2Mb total, no hard disk, no floppies, just
a RAM disk. When I was using my Palm for an aviation GPS, I had 1.5M of
data files for a 38K program.
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--- Tim Harrison <harrison(a)timharrison.com> wrote:
> Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> > I still think "Palm Pilot" sounds like a euphemism.
>
> And if you knew the joy we "Palm Pilots" get from owning one, you'd have
> three already. ;)
I've done some interesting things with mine... I used to have a VT100
emulator on it that I have used as a console for an H-11 and to configure
Cisco Routers (I had to remove it to make room for GPS data for a California
to Ohio flight and I haven't put it back yet).
I have a Happy Hacking Keyboard Cradle and wish there were a way to have
_both_ an external keyboard _and_ a serial connection to a host at the same
time - the ultimate portable terminal.
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--- David Gesswein <djg(a)drs-esg.com> wrote:
> >From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: PDP-11/34a (was: NYT on...)
> >
> >Speaking of RK05 drives, is there still a source for absolute filters?
> >
> Yup, Compaq (Used to be 1-800-DIGITAL to order)
>
> 12-12175-01 FILTER, AIR HEPA 122.00
Wahoo! At that price, I'm glad I have a couple of filters for my RL drives.
ISTR we used to pay around $75 for third-party filters back in the day when
we used removable pack drives on a regular basis.
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I've found this neat little box labelled a VT525.
What is this?
Maybe I can keep it and use it as a terminal when I eventually get my
PDP11/23 going?
It has a module missing from the front and doesn't do anything except click
when keys are pressed.
Hans
Is there any comprehensive list or reliable method to identify
memory chips or modules ? While the speed is usually easily seen
with the "-xx", size and type are difficult to decipher based on the
chip #. It used to be easy to see parity(9 chips) or not but no
longer, not to mention things like an IBM presence detect.
ciao larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
>It's playing with the MAC address to get it to conform to the DECnet Node
>number right? At least this is/was done with the DECnet/Linux software.
It
>might be possible to do this and have it not conflict with NT. Not sure
>though if Windows is that smart/adaptable (can't believe I'm insinuating
>that it might be).
>
> Zane
NT be smart. Surely you jest. I have never tried to get around it yet.
One of those things I want to do if I ever get some play time. I am
currently over a week behind and I might catch up if I don't answer the
phone for the next week+.
Dan
>From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: PDP-11/34a (was: NYT on...)
>
>Speaking of RK05 drives, is there still a source for absolute filters?
>
Yup, Compaq (Used to be 1-800-DIGITAL to order)
12-12175-01 FILTER, AIR HEPA 122.00
My parts list says that is the right part but I have not actually ordered
one.
http://www.digital.com/dassearch.html
And various third party
http://www.airfiltrationprod.com/computer.html
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights
Anyone seen a CPT Visual Memory computer before ? It's model 4800 and
uses a selectric like typewriter for input and printing and has an
external cassette unit. This one odd looking computer, the lady I got it
>from says she purchased it back in 1984 as her first computer. She's
looking for the documentation for it.
PS Thanks to everyone for the input on the apple to pc problem.
John Keys
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>Bill Pechter wrote:
>>OOPS !!!
>>Actually should've been 32KW (64MB) of memory. Been working with too
>>many Sun Workstations and Athlons lately...
>
>The Smart A** in me wants to know what word size you're using to get 64
>Megabytes out of 32KW! :^)
>
> Zane
If one cannot calculate that then you need to restrict you self to the
moto
14500 ICU. ;)
Allison
--- Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> wrote:
> OOPS !!!
> Actually should've been 32KW (64MB) of memory.
Still itchy on that "m" key I see. :-)
> > I wish I had a working RK05f... (I ruined the only 'f' I ever saw as a
> > teenager - I didn't know what I was doing and I moved the fixed pack when
> > the drive was still turning. :-P I still have the platter as a reminder.)
> >
>
> Clean the heads and install a new RK05 pack and it'll probably work.
That was 1984. The drive was disposed of _long_ ago. I did look at the
heads - There was more than a little oxide on the upper head; it looked
like a rusty rasp had been drawn across it.
I destroyed a 12-sector f pack. I still have the 16-sector pack that came
with the drive when that company bought it (but they used PDP-11s, not PDP-8s,
so it sat on a shelf the entire time they owned the unit). I never have been
able to see what's on this pack; the only 16-sector pack I own (I don't have
an RK8E, just an RK11C and RKV11D).
Mostly, I've used RL01/RL02 drives on OMNIBUS/Unibus/Qbus machines that didn't
have an MSCP controller. Never had an RL drive die on me. Got plenty of spare
parts when it eventually does happen.
-ethan
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--- Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Yup... but an RK05F, RK05J and PDP11/23 cpu in 11/03 5' corporate
> cabinet with RLV11J and 32mb of memory will blow a 15 AMP 110 AC
> breaker quite nicely, thank you. 8-)
How'd you get 32Mb of memory in an 11/03? :-)
Still... nice setup. I wish I had a working RK05f... I have a couple of
RK05j drives (I ruined the only 'f' I ever saw as a teenager - I didn't
know what I was doing and I moved the fixed pack when the drive was still
turning. :-P I still have the platter as a reminder.)
Speaking of RK05 drives, is there still a source for absolute filters?
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Now comes the questions, I don't know the commands for CPM does anyone know
of a good intro to ccp? I'm hoping to get a book on CP/M soon. In the mean
I've backed up the roms and I'm about to investigate upgrading to ZsDOS
(or something similar). I'm hoping the ATR8000 will be able to access the
Atari 800 drives, that way I can hook it up to my Linux box and it can act
as a large floppy drive. I know it confusing but it really does work.
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>puppy downers (those who watched the old, original, Saturday Night
>Live TV show in the 80's will understand this), and classify those who
puppy *uppers* and
doggy *downers*
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Former RT-11 Developer
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Well I waded back thru the library, here are a
few more manuals that I can part with. Please
contact me off-list if any are of interest.
Again these are complete, not torn. Prices as
noted, shipping INCLUDED.
Handbooks:
$5 -Digital Logic Handbook 1976-77
$5 -Hardware Documentation Kit Handbook 1982
$8 -Microcomputers and Memories 1981
$10-PDP11/04/24/34a/44/70 Processor H'book 1981
$5 -PDP11 Peripherals Handbook 1976
$8 -PDP11 Software Handbook 1978-79
$6 -PDP11 Software Sourcebook-Applications Software
Vol 1 Third Edition (Sept. 1984)
$6 -PDP11 Software Sourcebook-Systems Software
Vol 2 Third Edition (Sept. 1984)
Other:
$5 -VAX Performance Summary - 8800 series
labeled For Internal Use Only
$6 -VAX Performance Summary - 6500 series (+ others)
labeled For Internal Use Only
$7 -Guide to VAX C -March 1987 AI-L370C-TE
The Digital Antic Project (http://www.atarimagazines.com) is proud to
announce that the full text of every issue of Antic Magazine is now
available on the Web. Devoted to the Atari 8-bit and ST computers, Antic
magazine published 88 issues from April 1982 through July 1990.
This site launched with two issues on July 27, 1996. More than four years
later, the project's volunteers uploaded the final issue. The site includes
1,700 articles, 2,400 images, and 1,600 downloadable program files, using
more than 100 MB of disk space. More than 30 volunteers have contributed
time to the project.
Although the Digital Antic Project has reached an important milestone, the
effort is far from over. The volunteers have already begun digitizing two
more magazines published by Antic Publishing: STart, which focuses on Atari
ST computers; and Antic Amiga Plus, which focuses on the Amiga platform.
(People interested in donating time or magazines to the cause are encouraged
to send e-mail to savetz(a)northcoast.com.)
--Kevin Savetz
Curator of the Digital Antic Project
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* Anyway, I am currently looking for an unbuilt computer kit or plans. S100
* bus would be cool, but I don't really care about that or the processor -
* z80, 6800, 6502 - I iust want a project. Parts should be easy to find and
* relatively cheap. I would prefer a serial interface for I/O.
If expandability isn't a prime goal (and this may be the case seeing, as
you don't care about the bus) you might try playing with one of the
microcontrollers on the market. A prime example would be one of the low-end
PIC's, which are *very* available and *very* cheap. Do a web search for
"16C84" or "16F84" for one of the most accessible and fun chips available.
If you're worried about the PIC series being "non-classic", don't :-). The PIC
architecture has been around for at least 20 years in many variations, and it's
one of the few available "Harvard Architecture" chips (i.e. memory space
separate from data space, a truly "classic" architecture) I can think of in
current production.
Tim.
OK,
I will love anyone forever who can find me a VAX 9000 (model 440 for
preference, nothing like 157 VUPS), or better still, a VAX 10000. Hell, even
a BI system would be nice...
Will J
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From: Kevin Stewart <stewart_kevin(a)hotmail.com>
>Anyway, I am currently looking for an unbuilt computer kit or plans.
S100
>bus would be cool, but I don't really care about that or the processor -
>z80, 6800, 6502 - I iust want a project. Parts should be easy to find
and
>relatively cheap. I would prefer a serial interface for I/O.
Your dreaming. An unbuilt s100 kits is worth $$$$. However, z80s and
all the goodies are readily available are are 6800 and 6502 (JDR
Microdevices).
Not having a preference is not a good thing I'd say as each cpu is
somewhat
different and some people do like one over another.
Allison
I pulled a Wang sytem unit from the scrapheap.
Type probably 6560. 10 Mb harddisk, 5 1/4 " floppy. I have no keyboard, and
no monitor. Internally a number of plug in cards in a strange format. I
have a Wang system logbook for it in dutch.
Is this unit of any interest or should I just return it to the scarpheap?
The unit is in Arnhem, the Netherlands.
Wim Hofman
Anyone know of a source of RS-422 (Mac mini-DIN serial) female-female
gender benders? I'm toying with teaching the C128 to speak LocalTalk
through its ACIA cartridge but I can't seem to find a female RS-422 to
DB9 or DB25 connector, so I need some sort of gender bender to hook
the LocalTalk box up with. Does anyone sell these? I can find male-male
but this isn't too helpful :-)
By the way, Fry's sells Mac Crackers. Like so many other things at Fry's,
of course, no one there knows they do, but in the Tools section under
Torx T15 drivers is an honest-to-goodness 11" T15 MacCracker with magnetic
tip. Worked like a charm on the SE/30, and now it has a 1GB hard drive.
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Hello all. This is Kevin Stewart, formerly a2k(a)one.net. That address died a
long time ago and I never got around to resubscribing until now.
Anyway, I am currently looking for an unbuilt computer kit or plans. S100
bus would be cool, but I don't really care about that or the processor -
z80, 6800, 6502 - I iust want a project. Parts should be easy to find and
relatively cheap. I would prefer a serial interface for I/O.
Thanks,
Kevin
Bill -
If Mike Noel's re-hash of the switch settings aren't sufficient, email me
off list and I'll make you a xerox copy of the full manual (80-90 pages,
theory of operation, schematic, timing diagrams, etc.) for .05/page plus
postage.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
Trying to downsize my DEC library so I'm offering
up some vintage manuals, no longer needed here.
Hopefully these can be of use to other list members.
Price is $5 each which includes shipping (USA).
Most are in VG cond. Some are well used, not so pretty.
All are complete, not torn. Contact me off list
if any are of interest. Leftovers will be ebay'd.
-DLV11-J User Guide (M-8043) EK-DLV1J-UG-001
-HSC50 Installation Manual EK-HSC50-IN-001
-HSC50 Technical Summary EJ-25786-45
-LA120 User Guide EK-LA120-UG-003
-LA210 kit: (all 3 for $5)
> Installation Guide EK-LA210-IN-002
> User Guide EK-LA210-UG-002
> Programmer Ref EK-LA210-RM-001
-LG01 Text Printer Installation/Operators Manual
Ek-OLG01-IN-003
-MSV11-P User Guide (M-8067) EK-MSV0P-UG-001
-MXV11-B User Guide (M-7195) EK-MXV1B-UG-001
-RM80 Disk Drive User Guide EK-ORM80-UG-003
-EMULEX DM02 Controller Tech Manual (MSCP Compat.)
DEC Handbooks:
-Digital Logic Handbook 1975-76
-Memories and Peripherals 1978-79
-PDP11/04/05/10/35/40/45 Processor Handbook
-PDP11 Peripherals Handbook 1976
the following are still in shrink-wrap:
-RA-82 Disk Drive User Guide EK-ORA82-UG-001
-VMS Installation and Operations:
MicroVAX, VAXStation -I,-II,-IIGPX AA-LB32A-TE
-VMS Installation and Operations:
MicroVAX, Vaxstation 2000 AA-LB34A-TE
-VMS Installation and Operations:
Vaxstation 8000 AA-LB33A-TE
Hello, all:
Some months back, I had a deal on several AIM65 systems. Well, my contact
sent me a message indicating that he had one more available. It's in a
custom-molded case with power supply. The price is $100 + S/H from New
Jersey.
If anyone's interested, let me know.
Rich
[ Rich Cini
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[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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Hi,
The Sol I just got came with two 16KRA memory boards.
I didn't get any documentation for these boards.
One seems to be occupying the address range 4000-7FFF.
This board seems to be OK. I can enter values and dump
them back out.
The other board seems to be addressed from 0 to 3FFF.
Without the board in the system, dumps from this address
range show all FF. With the board installed, dumps from
this address range show values other than FF. Entering
values into this address range does not seem to work.
The command works, the machine does not hang, but the
values displayed by the dump command don't change.
There are two, eight bit dip switches on each board.
The settings are very different on the two boards.
Can anybody help me out here?
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
Frederik Meerwaldt <frederik(a)freddym.org> wrote:
> I think FDDI becomes more and more vintage, so I decided to ask here:
> Does anyone have a spare DEF?A Available? I mean a DEFQA, DEFTA, DEFPA,...
> If yes, I'll be willing to buy it (if it's not too expensive, of course).
> Awaiting offers and thanks in advance
There was a posting recent in comp.sys.dec where a guy had a bunch of
stuff for sale. Among them:
2 DEFZA-AA TC FDDI interface $10
He said that they were gone shortly after the posting, but at least they
are available.
Mike
Hello, all:
A friend of my sister-in-law gave me the original IBM portable (well,
lugable) Model 5155 and RGB monitor. It's the dual drive model. There's a
37-pin DB connector on the back. External floppy??
I have to say, this equipment is in the best condition of any classic item
I have ever acquired. Not a scratch, dent or cabinet fade. No dust
either...anywhere. I know that the owner was anal retentive, but oh boy. I
haven't tried yet, but it was just taken out of service after many years of
use.
Rich
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I spent an half an hour today operating beyond my level of competence,
but I seemed to get away with it.
I took apart an old VT320 terminal because I wanted to measure the
display refresh rate. From disassembling the ROM I know that a frame
interrupt is passed to the microcontroller, so I thought I'd open the
case, prise apart the tube and the main PCB, connect an oscilloscope
probe to the appropriate pin on the microcontroller, power up the
terminal and get my timings.
I was reassembling the terminal when an odd rattling and whistling sound
made me dive for cover. This noise went on for about 15 seconds and then
all went quiet. I very nervously approached the terminal and finished
snapping the case together. I've not attempted to power it up since.
I had noticed that the tube bore a label claiming that it had an
implosion protection system, so several questions occur to me.
1. Is it possible that I've somehow blown the tube by shorting one of
its connections soon after disconnecting the power? I noticed that there
are a number of large capacitors on the circuit board, but I don't know
how long they take to discharge.
2. There are two sets of wires going to the CRT. One set of five (six?)
goes to a cap on the end of the tube, and another wire (HT?) goes to the
side of the tube. I took the cap off the back of the tube, but didn't
touch the wire at the side. Can that be safely disconnected?
3. Why would a mere software engineer be doing something this foolhardy?
Don't even attempt to answer that.
"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> While more or less off-topic I figure I'm not the only one that finds this
> to be of interest. Or am I the only one around here that actually is using
> all those DECserver's we've all got laying around? Also considering how
> easy it is to pickup a DECserver 200MC this might be of interest to people
> that don't even have any terminal servers at this time.
First, thanks Zane for sharing that, definitely of interest.
Yep, I'm one of those not using any of them I have laying around. In fact was
about to tear down some 200/MC's to recycle the aluminum cases and circuit
boards. If anybody here wants one, then let me know. I also have the
hardware manuals for them.
Mike
Nope, it's a 15" Torx-15 screwdriver that's an absolute must for getting the
little blighters apart. There's a couple of other Mac Opening tools too,
some of which Tony Duell uses.....can't remember the names.....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net]
> Sent: 18 September 2000 15:59
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: RS-422 gender benders
>
>
> At 07:04 AM 9/18/00 -0700, Cameron wrote:
> >
> >By the way, Fry's sells Mac Crackers.
>
> What's that? a big hammmer? :-)
>
> Joe
>
Frank,
I keep getting this message when I try to send you a message. This has
been going on for a couple of weeks. Some messages are getting through but
others aren't.
Joe
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<snip>
Well, not only was the screen dead but the analogue board too. The part #s
for the screens in the Plus, SE and Classic were the same, except the
classic was a slightly different sub-variant (E instead of D). I installed
the Classic CRT and got nothing, nix, nada, so I figured if the Classic was
mostly dead it was OK to assume the screen was too. I only thought about the
analogue board when I'd installed the Plus screen, so I swapped that too and
hey presto - working SE. I then put the Classic screen in the Plus and that
works too, so there's now a completely dead Classic available (well, the
mobo might be OK) as well as the bones of an SE! There's no point in keeping
the bust CRTs since they're beyond repair.
a
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 14 September 2000 18:56
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Mac SE screen
>
>
> >
> > > I know that the CRT in a Mac+ is a pretty standard 9" mono
> > > CRT, and that there's nothing odd about the pin
> configuration or operating
> >
> > > voltages. I suspect the SE's CRT is similar, but I've
> never had the
> > > chance to pull one of those machines to bits.
> >
> > I'll do it then, and compare the numbers and boards etc, and check
> > apple-history to make sure the resolutions were the same,
> which I think they
> > were.
>
> The resolution shouldn't matter for a monochrome CRT (there are no
> phosphor dots/stripes on such a screen). The resolution is really
> determined by the driver electronics, although the yoke is
> likely to be
> different as well (different scan rates -> different yoke
> inducatance, etc)
>
> >
> > > Incidentally, if you had 2 dead SEs and broke one of the
> CRTs, what
> > > happened to the other CRT? It's not common for them to fail
>
> [...]
>
> > The good old british postal service 'happened' to the other
> CRT. They
>
> Ah... That explains it :-(
>
> -tony
>
Yesterday Bob R. and I went out to visit an old CPM'er that I'd heard
about. He was glad to see us and GAVE us all of his old CPM stuff. Two
beautiful MicroMint SB180 systems (one with hard drive :-), a Televideo 970
terminal, a Steve Ciarcia Serial EPROMer, a case with an external 8" floppy
drive and a CompatiCard to operate it with, a Copy II PC card, a huge pile
of CPM software and a fair sized stack of manuals.
Does anyone have the setup instructions for a CompatiCard I? I'm also
looking for instructions for the Serial EPROMer. I think it may have been
published in the Feb. 1985 issue of Byte magazine.
Joe
Ta for that, but I've already got a v.clean classic and the SE will buff up
quite nicely when I get the time!
a
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net]
> Sent: 18 September 2000 15:04
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Mac SE screen
>
>
> Adrian,
>
> Too bad you're in the UK. I have a nice Classic and a nice
> SE that are
> looking for homes.
>
> Joe
>
> At 11:53 AM 9/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >Well, not only was the screen dead but the analogue board
> too. The part #s
> >for the screens in the Plus, SE and Classic were the same, except the
> >classic was a slightly different sub-variant (E instead of
> D). I installed
> >the Classic CRT and got nothing, nix, nada, so I figured if
> the Classic was
> >mostly dead it was OK to assume the screen was too. I only
> thought about the
> >analogue board when I'd installed the Plus screen, so I
> swapped that too and
> >hey presto - working SE. I then put the Classic screen in
> the Plus and that
> >works too, so there's now a completely dead Classic
> available (well, the
> >mobo might be OK) as well as the bones of an SE! There's no
> point in keeping
> >the bust CRTs since they're beyond repair.
> >
> >a
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
> >> Sent: 14 September 2000 18:56
> >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> >> Subject: Re: Mac SE screen
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > I know that the CRT in a Mac+ is a pretty standard 9" mono
> >> > > CRT, and that there's nothing odd about the pin
> >> configuration or operating
> >> >
> >> > > voltages. I suspect the SE's CRT is similar, but I've
> >> never had the
> >> > > chance to pull one of those machines to bits.
> >> >
> >> > I'll do it then, and compare the numbers and boards etc,
> and check
> >> > apple-history to make sure the resolutions were the same,
> >> which I think they
> >> > were.
> >>
> >> The resolution shouldn't matter for a monochrome CRT (there are no
> >> phosphor dots/stripes on such a screen). The resolution is really
> >> determined by the driver electronics, although the yoke is
> >> likely to be
> >> different as well (different scan rates -> different yoke
> >> inducatance, etc)
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > Incidentally, if you had 2 dead SEs and broke one of the
> >> CRTs, what
> >> > > happened to the other CRT? It's not common for them to fail
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > The good old british postal service 'happened' to the other
> >> CRT. They
> >>
> >> Ah... That explains it :-(
> >>
> >> -tony
> >>
> >
>
It was a separate box mounted vertically in its own table. It should be
obvious whether it's still there or not.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Oliviero [mailto:oliv555@arrl.net]
> Sent: 16 September 2000 00:15
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: VAX 8900 booter
>
>
> Thanks. I don't have one of those, I'll check into whether its
> still in the cabinet.
>
> Nick
>
> ajp166 wrote:
>
> > I believe it used a pro350 or 380 with a special interface board set
> > as a system console. Pros are PDP-11 FYI.
> >
> > Allison
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net>
> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:18 PM
> > Subject: VAX 8900 booter
> >
> > >Anyone know what boot device was installed in this ?
> > >I know that earlier Vaxen used PDP11s. A quick search
> > >of the net yielded little information about this model.
> > >
> > >I've got a line on one about to be dismantled and want
> > >to find out if theres anything in it worth salvaging. Don't
> > >have access to it, its 1000 miles away. But I have a friend
> > >there willing to scout it for me. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
>
Dammit - I haven't got the space!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Bradford [mailto:mrbill@mrbill.net]
> Sent: 15 September 2000 12:36
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: PDP-11 *free* in the UK
>
>
> An email I received @ pdp11.org:
> - - - -
> From engdesk(a)intelfaxdev.co.uk Fri Sep 15 06:16:09 2000
>
> From: "Andrew Bailey" <engdesk(a)intelfaxdev.co.uk>
>
> To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org>
>
> Subject: We have a PDP11 that needs a good home
>
> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:08:38 +0100
>
>
>
> We have three large, heavy pieces of computer equipment
> marked PDP11/44, TS05
> +and RL02. If there is anybody in the UK who wants them,
> please drop us a line.
> +We will even give you a hand getting them into the van.
>
> - - - -
>
> If anyone's interested in that area, please get in touch with
> Mr. Bailey.
>
> --
> Bill Bradford
> mrbill(a)mrbill.net
> Austin, TX
>
--- "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> Hello, all:
>
> Some months back, I had a deal on several AIM65 systems. Well, my contact
> sent me a message indicating that he had one more available. It's in a
> custom-molded case with power supply. The price is $100 + S/H from New
> Jersey.
I got one of these... really nice. I'm very happy with it.
(just an un-paid testimonial... ;-)
-ethan
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In a message dated 9/17/00 8:43:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rcini(a)optonline.net writes:
>
> A friend of my sister-in-law gave me the original IBM portable (well,
> lugable) Model 5155 and RGB monitor. It's the dual drive model. There's a
> 37-pin DB connector on the back. External floppy??
yup 256k, and external drive connector. are you saying you got an external
display? the 5155 had a 5inch CGA mono CGA display of course.
i scored this weekend. got a mac 512k complete in box. even got the cassette
tape and apple stickers that came with it. might go back to get the boxed
imagewriter and floppy drive.
DB Young ICQ: 29427634
hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid!
-> www.nothingtodo.org
Hello,
I am wondering how i become a member of this "group".
I am 52 years of age, and interested in microcomputer hardware and
software from the 1970's and early 1980's. I built a digital group
z80 computer back in 1977...
Thanks - Bob Forslund
I've got one for a Compaticard II which would do - IIRC the major difference
is an additional connector. Do you just need jumper settings or would you
like a copy - it's pretty short.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
I have someone looking for help in converting TRS80 model files written
using a wordprocessor named allwrite. Any one know of a way to move
these files to a new format for use today ? Thanks
John Keys
I've been digging around at work and have found two Series 80 ring
binders, but no HP85B. I'll keep one of the binders, but the other is
available for the cost of postage in the UK.
The binder is labelled "Series 80", and contains the following manuals:
"HP-85B Owner's Manual and Programming Guide"
"I/O ROM Owner's Manual"
"HP82939A Serial Interface Owner's Manual"
"HP-IB Interface Owner's Manual"
The binder weighs nearly 3.5kg, which makes the cost of posting it ?6.30
at Parcelforce Standard rate. Or you could pick it up from me in
Crawley, W.Sussex. Email me off list if you're interested.
At 19:12 14-09-2000 -0500, Anthony Eros wrote:
>I have an opportunity to get up to a dozen DEC Computer Lab units. The DEC
>Computer Lab was a tabletop digital logic trainer (see attached picture)
<snip>
And you also posted a binary file to the entire mailing list, regardless
of whether or not everyone would be interested in such a unit (I would be,
but at nowhere near the price you're asking. If you or Compaq really wants
that much for them, then you'd probably do better taking them to E-[over]pay).
A better way to make an image file available is to put it on a web site,
and simply post a link to it to the list.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our
own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
From: Paul Williams <celigne(a)tinyworld.co.uk>
>I was reassembling the terminal when an odd rattling and whistling sound
>made me dive for cover. This noise went on for about 15 seconds and then
>all went quiet. I very nervously approached the terminal and finished
>snapping the case together. I've not attempted to power it up since.
My guess:
Sounds like the little tit on the end of the tube (middle of socket)
was broken off by rough handling. What you heard was the vacuum
becomming unso.
The "implosion protection device" is heavy glass and think screen
for the case of if there was damage done the tube would not let fly
with a field of flying glass possibly doing injury.
Allison
Hi all,
I think FDDI becomes more and more vintage, so I decided to ask here:
Does anyone have a spare DEF?A Available? I mean a DEFQA, DEFTA, DEFPA,...
If yes, I'll be willing to buy it (if it's not too expensive, of course).
Awaiting offers and thanks in advance
--
Best Regards,
Freddy
=====================================================================
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Bavaria/Germany OpenVMS and Unix Howtos and much more
FREEBSD, NETBSD, OPENBSD, TRU64, OPENVMS, ULTRIX, BEOS, LINUX
While more or less off-topic I figure I'm not the only one that finds this
to be of interest. Or am I the only one around here that actually is using
all those DECserver's we've all got laying around? Also considering how
easy it is to pickup a DECserver 200MC this might be of interest to people
that don't even have any terminal servers at this time.
Of course my DECserver 90L+ is currently the only thing I have on the
10Base2 segment of my network :^)
Zane
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>08:01:31 2000
>Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 16:00:52 +0100
>From: Patrick Caulfield <patrick(a)pandh.demon.co.uk>
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>
>This is it, the moment you've all been waiting for...
>
>latd has reached 1.0. All bugs have been quashed, all features have been
>perfected, just download and enjoy !
>
>I know I said 0.8 was feature-complete but several weeks of heavy use
>convinced
>me to add a couple more at the last minute.
>
>^@ in a reverse-LAT connection will send a BREAK to the terminal server or
>host.
>Useful for VAX consoles that one, and
>You can define a group called "lat" in your /etc/groups file and all
>reverse-LAT
>ports will then have that as their groups along with 0660 permission so you
>don't have to be root to use reverse-LAT any more.
>
>And there are binaries. Only Intel at the moment but that *may* change.
>
>Here's the full NEWS page:
>
>
>- Support BREAK character
>- Added support for a group (gid) called "lat". If you have one of these
> in /etc/groups then users with that group can connect to reverse-LAT
> ports with no other privileges
>- Added startup script
>- Remove "LAT started", "LAT stopped" messages from latcp as they interfere
> with the startup script and it's "not the Unix way"
>- Added RPM build target
>- Added DEB build target
>- Forced all node names & service names to be uppercase in latcp
>- Split -DOLDSTUFF into two bits: -DUSE_OPENPTY and -DSETLOGIN_HOST. The
> second option doesn't work on SuSE 6.4, but does on Debian 2.2 and RedHat
> 6.2, the first should be fine on anything later than RedHat 5.2 (libc 2.0
> I think that means)
>
>BTW: I haven't forgotten dnprogs. There will be a 0.6 release in the middle of
>October soon after I return from holiday. For the impatient, it's all in CVS!
>
>patrick
>
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