- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Any takers? So, we're probably looking at a total shipping weight of 80 to 85 lbs? Overestimate, to be safe... If no one else has jumped on it, I'll look into shipping costs, and let you know whether or not I can afford to take it off of your hands, and use it for NetBSD here... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Lafferty [SMTP:rich@alcor.concordia.ca] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:36 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Cc: port-sun3(a)netbsd.org; port-i386(a)netbsd.org > Subject: Sun 386i to give away > > I've got a Sun 386i that I rescued from the dumpster sitting here > taking up precious space. I originally thought I'd grab some disk for > it and play with it, but, well, spare time and all that. > > It has the following cards: > > 540-1062-01 (Framebuffer) > 555-1006-01 (?) > 501-1423 (Memory, populated by 270-1394's) > 501-1244 (?) > > It has no disk. It also has the storage expansion that clips on top, > but that is also empty of disks and tape, and is missing its side > panel. The floppy drive is still there, though. :-) > > I have full documentation for this guy, including all original > manuals, the full users' and programmers' documentation sets which > cover slightly more than just this machine, much of the promotional > materials for it and for the parts it at one point was accompanied by, > plus most of the purchase orders for it. I've also got a bunch of QIC > media with SunOS and OpenWindows. > > It's taking up room here, and since I haven't done anything with it > yet, I suspect I never will. It's free to whoever wants it; they'll > have to pick it up or pay for shipping -- or, if you're a BSD person > thinking about a port, talk to me. The machine itself weighs 45 lbs, > the expansion unit 25 lbs, and the documentation, um, weights as much > as a square foot of paper weighs, times three. :-) I do ask that > anyone interested take at *least* the main box and one box of > documentation (with the brochures, main manuals, and purchase order > history). > > Shipping would be from Montreal, Quebec. > > -Rich > > -- > ------------------------------ Rich Lafferty --------------------------- > Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services > Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 > ------------------------- rich(a)alcor.concordia.ca ----------------------

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

*grin*. Like those quotes.... Didn't Ken also say "The future of computing is not on the desktop" thus sending Mr. Gates to IBM? He's also said something about U**x being the 'snake oil' of computing but I can't remember that one. a > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Pechter [mailto:pechter@pechter.dyndns.org] > Sent: 25 September 2000 13:43 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS) > > > > Your right, that is lame. > > > > Oh, the biggest peice of foot I ever ate... small computers > will never > > be as prolific as they are. However, despite that I was > designing with > > 8008 in '73, it was interesting (and that golden opportunity). > > > > Allison > > > > > > > > You're in good company: > > Don't forget Ken Olson's comment on personal computers back > in the same > time period. > > > "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their > home." > -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society > Convention, 1977 > -+-+=-+- > > ...and then again there's the following. (Both quotes are in my > FreeBSD box MOTD as a reminder. > > One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How > enthusiastic is our support for UNIX? > Unix was written on our machines and for our machines many > years ago. Today, much of UNIX being done is done on our machines. > Ten percent of our VAXs are going for UNIX use. UNIX is a simple > language, easy to understand, easy to get started with. > It's great for > students, great for somewhat casual users, and it's great for > interchanging programs between different machines. And so, > because of > its popularity in these markets, we support it. We have > good UNIX on > VAX and good UNIX on PDP-11s. > It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will > run out of things they can do with UNIX. They'll want a > real system and > will end up doing VMS when they get to be serious about programming. > With UNIX, if you're looking for something, you can easily and > quickly check that small manual and find out that it's not > there. With > VMS, no matter what you look for -- it's literally a > five-foot shelf of > documentation -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the > difference -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the > beauty of VMS > is that it's all there. > > > -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 > No. 5, 1984 > > -+-+=-+- > > > > Didn't Arthur C. Clarke make a comment as to if an old scientest says > something is possible it probably is and if he says it's impossible it > may not be. > > There's something to remember -- people in a field often get locked in > to a certain view and can't see the changes that will happen (and in > DEC's case run over it like a bus over some roadkill). > > Bill > -- > bpechter(a)monmouth.com | Microsoft: Where do you want > to go today? > | Linux: Where do you want > to go tomorrow? > | BSD: Are you guys > coming, or what? >

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[OT] Paypal

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I know that I will get a flame just for this inquiry, but here goes. I found an article on eBay that I bid on and rather than sending a Money Order, I thought I might try paypal? Can anyone please comment? It seems reasonable from the outside as compared to paying with a Money Order, but I thought that asking first might help. Note that I am not comparing with a process better than a Money Order since this vendor does not accept a cheque, MC or VISA. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> >Oh, Windows ugh.. The 133 I've got's running Apache on FreeBSd as the >dept. webserver. Well the copmpany intranet was on a P133 (non mmx), P100-S running NT3.51 with uptimes in the 6-8months range. Do I like winders? W9x is crap and NT4 is not too bad. But if you dealing with 40 clients that have useres that barely can run MSWord never mind any unix. Running unix with win9x clints is a royal pain for many apps and a blessing for others. Also it pays the bills. My choice here is NT4 and it does work well for me. Linux hasn't what I want as a desktop system just yet though Caldara Openlinux2.3 is ok but it doesnt run GCADD6.1, Xylinx developer, Delphi-5, or Paradox or MYZ80 for examples. If I needed something I could run email, netscape WP-8 on, sure it's ok. IT's about applications investment and database investment. >Anyway... It did run Win95 on it until I gave it the BSD exorcism. Likely the W9x tendancy to eat itself is why it needed BSD. ;) I hate win9x. Allison

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I got married!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >Without bothering you all too much, I thought it might be worth knowing >that Chrissy and I were married on Sept. 9 2000. It was a beautiful >day/time and I love her very much. Well I for one think that is so on topic that congrats are a must. I do hope she supports your collecting. >Preferably without hanging ourselves with folks trying to jumper thier 486 >boards with overdrive processors.... I have a few 386 boards that meet the 10 year rule. ;) They work too. Allison

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HP 95LX

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Well, I landed an HP 95LX. Naturally, it has no manual. What can you tell me about it? It has 512K of RAM, of which 256K seems to be used as a RAM disk, and the sidecar PCMCIA slot has some RadioMail module loaded in it. What type PCMCIA slot is it? What can I put in it? It also came with a serial? cable terminating in an RJ-45. How programmable is it? I was able to get a DOS prompt (3.22, shiver). It also came with an Ericcson MobiDEM radio modem, but I'll bet it wouldn't work even if the battery pack were charged. What can I do with this? Nice system though! -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- I must confess, I was born at a very early age. -- Groucho Marx ------------

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[OT] Paypal

by jfedorko＠virtualadmin.com

I tried Paypal.. worked fine until I ran against the inconvienence of the magical $$ limit. Then they wanted my bank info, I'm not giving that out. I like the previously mentioned "free checking for life" idea, but it's still a pain. I've been lucky and only had one problem making a purchase on ebay, a problem with a dial on a old radio (but I can fix it). As far as credit cards go... I don't use them on the internet. I use a debit card that I "load up" as required. I also have the bank kill it and issue a new one every once and a while. Happy Computing. -Joel

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Free in Santa Monica: 486 MB's w/CPU

by elmo＠mminternet.com

I have four 486 MB's, known to work, with various CPU's from 33 to 120MHZ, and varying memory configurations - most of the 4x30pin+2x72pin variety, some are 8x30. Also included are a couple VLB Video cards and one VLB IDE controller. Please contact me off-list to arrange a pickup.

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New life for Atari 2600

by spc＠armigeron.com

I came across this interesting page: http://www.geocities.com/funmazer/ It describes the work one person did to make his own portable Atari 2600 gaming system for about $200. I thought the people here might appreciate it. -spc (Wouldn't mind having one of these ... )

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Tim Harrison <harrison(a)timharrison.com> >with management... something I think I should take lessons in :) ). The >"operating systems" instructor was telling the class that OSs can't >reside in ROM. As he said this, I sat back, held up my Palm, and >smiled. He didn't. Your kidding... boy he has no knowledge of the space program (core rom ropes!). And has never seens a Epson PX-8 (cpm in rom!). Feh! Allison

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Login on VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >>> interest in the VAX. But then again they have MS's while I have an AS >>> degree, yet they seem to come to me to resolve weird problems. Could it that shouldn't limit you. During you time at dec some of the better VMS people Didn't even have degrees in computers or electronics! the ability to discover, learn, understand and apply what you do know is important. >> Recently, I thought about going back and finishing high school, and then >> taking university courses, but at this stage of the game, people aren't >> looking at my academic record, as much as my ability to solve their >> problems and work effectively and efficiently. You can still go and learn just the degree thing is a PITA. >All that degree really means is that you made it through 192 credit hours of >classes with a 2.0 or better GPA. It doesn't say you remembered any of it. And regurgatate what was required. Seriously, those that do have a lot of things presented to them and the biggest is the tools needed to explore. I appreciate my college time even if I never did some of the bits needed for the degree. It is a help with wading through network analysis and project requiring dealing with transfer functions in loops and servo systems. In the end being willing to read and learn gave me breadth and depth needed to tackle a lot of things I'd never done before. Allison

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Source for 8 Pin male to male DIN cables?

by BobMcPhail＠aol.com

Ok, I need some assistance. I'm working on restoring an older Japanese computer that requires a male to male 8 PIN DIN cable to link with some peripherals. Does anyone have a good source for cables like this? I know I can probably solder something together, but I was hoping somebody knew of a resource for these which required slightly less work. Thanks.

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[OT] Paypal

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

*>I know that I will get a flame just for this inquiry, but here goes. *> *>I found an article on eBay that I bid on and rather than sending *>a Money Order, I thought I might try paypal? Can anyone *>please comment? It seems reasonable from the outside as *I think PayPal is a great idea. I agree, but I don't think it helps Jerome since he isn't in the US, and Paypal doesn't deal with either buyers nor sellers who don't have US Postal addresses. Jerome is in Canada, I should note, but I don't know if it's possible for him to get a US postal address just to use Paypal or not. I think the Paypal rules strictly state that you must be a *resident of the US*, and that a US postal address isn't good enough (though I'm not sure they could tell the difference.) (Certainly while I was living in Canada, having a US postal address and bank account helped me a lot with many financial issues.) There are other services that don't suffer from Paypal's problems - most noticably E-bay's Billpoint service, and Amazon's electronic payments - though of course the seller must sign up with these services as well as the buyer. Tim.

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by william＠seniorsix.org

To all: I don't know if this classifies as a classic, but I am trying to work wonders with an HP Vectra 5/90 XU. Hewlett Packard is less than worthless for support . . . is there a list for vintage HPs or can anyone here help?? Thanks in advance. Bill

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Old caps: Recondition, or replace?

by sethm＠loomcom.com

I'm working on a power supply that has four old big honkin' capacitors, two 10,000uF 25V and two 95,000uF 15V electrolytics, dating from 1977. The question is, should I repair them (reconditioning with a variac... or lightbulbs in series, since I don't have a variac :) or should I just consider them most likely lost to time and attempt to replace them with more modern parts? The power supply is otherwise fine, and in fact on a whim, I was able to power it up and get steady power from it, no hint of a problem. I just worry about the poor caps after being off for so long. Opinions? -Seth

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PDP-11/34A help needed

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Will Jennings <xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Third, does anyone have any spare RK05 packs? I have a number of packs. I know that RT-11 V4 is on some of them; others appear to be data, but I haven't read them. What's the going rate for ancient media these days? -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Info Required: M7900-M7904 Modules

by wanderer＠bos.nl

Kevin, These cards are indeed the RK06/7 controller (RK611). M7900 - Unibus interface M7901 - Register module M7902 - Control module M7903 - Data module M7904 - Drive interface module AFAIK, it uses it's own 9 slot backplane for these cards. Ed Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > > Hi Group: > > I found the following modules in a recently-acquired 11/34A: > > M7900 > M7901 > M7902 > M7903 > M7904 > > These are all hex height modules, I suspect that they form an RK07 > controller, however they are NOT in the latest field guide. > > Any info appreciated, > > Kevin > > -- > Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD > mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca > ---------- > To unsubscribe (or subscribe) from (to) this list, send a message to > info-pdp11-request(a)village.org, with the first line of the message > body being "unsubscribe" or "subscribe", respectively (without the quotes). -- NOTE: from the 1st of October, my email address will be 'quapla(a)xs4all.nl'. My current provider managed to loose all my email and webpages, simply because they did not perform regular backups.

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Bill <william(a)seniorsix.org> wrote: > I don't know if this classifies as a classic, but I am trying to work > wonders with an HP Vectra 5/90 XU. Hewlett Packard is less than worthless > for support . . . is there a list for vintage HPs or can anyone here help?? No, it doesn't qualify. The rule is supposed to be "computers 10 years old and older", and even then some of us think IBM PC clones (especially the semi-proprietary ones like HP Vectras) are mostly more frustrating than interesting. But I'm feeling kindly disposed tonight, so I will point out that HP has a web site. I have no idea what you're trying to do but maybe there is something there to help you do it, or at least tell you why it's a bad idea to do it with a Vectra. Starting from http://www.hp.com/ I click on "support", then (on the resulting page) "business pc's" (sic; apparently HP's new standard web page design discourages the use of upper case alphabetic characters) because HP uses the Vectra brand name for business PCs and some other name(s) for home PCs. That gets me to a form where I can "enter product name & number" so I key in "Vectra 5/90 XU". That gets me to http://www.support.vectra.hp.com/vectrasupport/level1/home.html . There's a "Select a model" pull-down menu where I select "hp vectra xu 5/xx" which takes me to http://www.support.vectra.hp.com/vectrasupport/indexes/Driver24.html , which has links to drivers and other software for that model. It also has a link to a "technical notes" page with some documentation, http://www.support.vectra.hp.com/vectrasupport/indexes/Document24.html . If that's not enough rope, try Usenet groups comp.sys.hp.hardware and/or comp.sys.hp.misc -- there are some folks there who are familiar with 1995's Vectra. -Frank McConnell

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Tracy Kidder [Was: I got married!]

by frustum＠pacbell.net

Oh, one other thing. I read "Soul of a New Machine" back when the book was new. A few years later, in 1986, I joined a company where there was a manager by the name of Carl Alsing. I didn't recall the name until somebody told me that Carl was one of the players in that book. So I went back and reread the book and I was really impressed by Tracy Kidder's writing. When he described Carl in the book, his description was really great and captured many aspects of Carl's personality in just a few words. It gave the rest of the book much more credibility to me. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Login on VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Neil Cherry <ncherry(a)home.net> >> SYSTEM = ROOT >> FIELD is often there, nearly the same privs as system > >Do they have a default password? (probably SYSTEM/SYSTEM and FIELD/FIELD) NO! for the uninstalled system they are return/return (blank) but that is like first thing chaged as the login at that point is set to force a password change. There is a break in procedure for old systems where the password is lost. For new installs the password is set on login. >> Yes if you have a third part SCSI controller. I have a CMD200 >> with a RZ56 and a Seagate Baracuda in my MVII along with >> an RQDX3/RD54 MFM. >I have a KSQSA/M5976-SA - Qbus to SCSI adapter, will that do? Dunno I dont have one or data on it. I'd bet it would though. For the disk however you may hae to stick to the older 1gb and under drives. the microvax-II boot knows RL, MSCP, eithernet, and can search for devices that have boot roms or act like MSCP compatable. Allison

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by william＠seniorsix.org

At 09:26 PM 9/23/2000 -0400, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote: >Thank you for not charging for your services any longer. Bag at the local >store or pump gas. > >Most of us would be so humilated by the prospect of your question to even >pose it. Instead we would solve our problem and be done. Please confine >your questions to subjects worthy of this august group of folk. I am >ashamed for you. GOOD GOD CHRIST!! Where the holy hell did this come from!?!? I take this to mean you DON'T know a damn thing about obsolete dual processor boards?!? How about this: I have an old IBM 860 . . . what can I upgrade the memory to? What kind of solder should I use!? All this coming from some goon who lives in ASHEVILLE!? MOVE TO RALEIGH, YOU FREAK! Only on a damn listserv can the world support obsolete computer snobs. This is crazy. This list reminds me of the damn purebred Doberman Pinscher list. Heh. Christ.

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Login on VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Neil Cherry <ncherry(a)home.net> >What are some of the default logins under VMS. Yes this is the first time >I've played with the beast. SYSTEM = ROOT FIELD is often there, nearly the same privs as system the rest are users. There are others most are not that important for general use. >BTW, how long does it take for DECUS to allow membership? A few weeks usually, sometimes it can be 6weeks. >I'm dying to get the CD's which I can't until the membership >is approved. And lastly can I pop on a 3rd part SCSI drive >on the uVax II? Yes if you have a third part SCSI controller. I have a CMD200 with a RZ56 and a Seagate Baracuda in my MVII along with an RQDX3/RD54 MFM. Allison > >-- >Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net >http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only) >http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics) >http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >-- no guts not glory. PCs no guts. Glory is making them useful. ;) >had said 'I want to do wonders with an 88k Aviion box, there would have >been a better response and some real respect. Yes very true. I'd bet that was a broadcast to every group. >I doubt this fellow really understand his own nvram. Enable external >cache? What is that? :) the faster faster enable. Allison

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HX-20 printer ribbon

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi, Does any one of you know of a source for the ribbon for the HX-20? The rollers on mine got pulverised. Any good way to rebuild them? what kind of material could I use? Thanks Francois See you at the VCF!!!

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Xerox Alto/Star archives?

by sethm＠loomcom.com

Hi folks, Does anyone have an archive of Xerox Alto/Star software? I'm curious about OS, applications, research work, whatever. I don't own an Alto, but I'm concerned about losing the software anyway. I'd really love to see a Xerox Alto emulator project started, and obviously some working original software archives are kind of vital for that endeavor. While we're at it, does anyone have system schematics or system architecture documentation? Those seem somewhat relevant as well :) -Seth

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Trash or Treasure?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

A couple of weeks ago I found a box in a scrap yard with a half height 8" floppy drive it in. The box was marked "Gen-Rad" and looked like part of a old piece of test equipment. I picked up the box just for the floppy drive and brought it home. Today I started to take it apart and found that it was made by Scientific Micro Systems and has a number of DEC cards in it as well as a Maxtor XT-1085 hard drive. My question is what is it and weather it's worth keeping or is it just good for parts? Here's the details; It's marked "Gen Rad 2295 Central Station" on the front. The back is marked "Scientific Micro Systems" "model MDX01170". It's about 9" w x 11" h x 17" deep. On the back it has eight DB-25m ports on the back. They're marked "TZ0" through "TZ3", "LP0" and "TT0" through "TT2". Inside it has a DEC M7957 quad board, a half size board made by Sigma Information Systems Inc (connected to the TT* and LP0 ports), a half size "Q RAM 11" board made by Clear Point (memory?), a DEC M 8186 half size card, and a half size SMS card (1002001-0001/0004220-0001) that is also connected via a jumper to the last card, a full quad size SMS card (1001939-0001/0003770-0001). The last card has ribbon cables that connect to the floppy and hard drive. Does anyone know what it is? Is it worth anything? FWIW I haven't tried to connect a terminal to it yet but it appears to power up and boot. Joe

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NCR tower32

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Y'know, I have an NCR Tower 3460 aka 32/600, and I have 3 cables, only need one.. I'd give ya a nice assembled NCR one... Will J _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Q-bus front panels?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> >ISTR that DEC made one for it's FE's. I believe that Megan has one, and I >might have the manual for it (I've not had time to figure out exactly what >the manual is for). > > Zane There were a limited number built and tested with FEs but they were not retained in service. The primary problem was they didn't have what would come around 10 years later, cheap, small hard disk. Allison

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RK05 transport tips ?

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Hello list, I might be getting some of the Davos' PDP8 stuff that Megan mentioned on the list . The 19 " racks will have to be transported flat, i.e. on their side. Any tips on how to handle the RK05, RL01 and RL02 ? Is there some sort of locking mechanism on the R/W heads ? I sure would hate ruining a I/O devices that I will not easilly find again... Jos Dreesen.

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vt220 or better terminal

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Does anyone have a vt220 or better (a color 240 would be great) terminal they want to sell? I need a console for my vaxstation. Alternately, since they seem to still be available, does anyone have anything good or bad to say about vt540s? I live in Colorado Springs, CO (USA) and I understand shipping will be significant. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BeOS Powered! -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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NYT on the Theft of Altair BASIC

by jfoust＠threedee.com

http://partners.nytimes.com/2000/09/18/technology/18BASI.html - John

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Xerox Alto/Star archives

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Xerox 6085 in Kansas City I happened to mention to one of my son's schoolmates parents that I recycled computers and now I am the lucky recipient of a complete Xerox 6085 system including external 5 1/4 floppy, complete manuals, software, hardware, every thing except the Xerox 4045 laser printer. The previous owner was the original owner. If anyone needs copies of the manuals I will make copies for cost. I found when I hooked it all up and powered up I get a 4 digit code in the upper left corner. I suspect that the system battery may have died. I have 6 large boxes of manuals and software can anyone give me a hint in which manual the hardware troubleshooting guide is found? Is there a guide or index to all the manuals? I remember the great gray or orange walls of DEC manuals, but at least there was an excellent index. Mike McFadden mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu computer hound, I sniff out the good stuff All musings are my own, no one else thinks like or for me.

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PocketPDP

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>Actually I was thinking of it talking to the real network. That way if I >was running say RSX-11M with DECnet under the emulator I could connect to it >from a VMS box. Or if running RT-11 with TCP/IP I could then connect to the >Sunsite archive (whatever they're calling it this week) via FTP. > > Zane That would be messy. RSX and others like to play with the MAC add. For the commercial emulator I am familiar with it requires a second Ethernet card for the emulators use if you also want to use NT networking at the same time. Looks good. I sure wish I had some time to play like that. Dan

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pdp-8 looking for new home... !

by mbg＠world.std.com

As usual, contact the poster, not myself... - - - - - Some old stuff is looking for a new home before it goes to the shredder: Mail me if you have interest, I will then forward any orders to the owner. Location: Davos in Switzerland/Europe Presen owner: Meteological Observatory, used for lab data capturing/processing State: Was running last time it saw power. The VT100, one PDP8/A, one TU56 I have seen running 4 weeks ago. Hardware: 2 * DEC PDP8/A, 20-Slot (big) Omnibus case, core memory (I do not know how much), with the optional octal front pannel 2 * DEC RK05, removable disk drives 2.4MByte 1 * DEC RL01, removable disk drive 5MByte 1 * DEC RL02, removable disk drive 10MByte 2 * DEC TU56, dual tape drives (small reel tapes) 1 * big reel tape drive, no manufacturer/model written on it, just lable: 9 track 800/1600 BPI 45IPS see ASCII art below 1 * chassis 19", 54cm wide, 76cm deep, (+19cm deet), 127cm high 2 * chassis 19", 54cm wide, 76cm deep, (+19cm feet), 180cm high 2 * Calcomp 836, plotter, ca 2m wide, 30cm deep, 20 cm high beige plastic ends, blue metal middle 1 * Centronics 6085, printer, ca 1m x 1m x 1m There is also 1 * DEC VT100, terminal 80x24, but I am having that :-) I may manage to find space for one PDP/8A with 1/2 the 2 disk drives and 1 TU56, but that is still open. If someone else want both of them (or 2 people want one), they can have them, I am actually into PDP11s (the system was billed as a 11, but turned out to be 2 8s). Software: - OS/8 - rts/8 Manuals: - Operation Manual PDP8/A - User Manual FPP12A - Maintenance Vol3 - RK05 Maintenance - RL01 Users Guide - Teletype 33ASR (no hardware, has been scrapped years ago) - Calcomp above - Centronics above ASCII of 9 track tape drive: --------------------------- | | | |.--. .-------. | | || |/ \ | | || | / \ | | || |`-' | | o o | lamps "Monitor" "Diag" || | o | | o | lamp "WT EN" || | | | o o | lamps "BOT" "EOT" || \ / | | || \ / | o # | lamp "Load" + square button || `-------' | o # | lamp "Online" + square button || | o # | lamp "Rew" + square button || .-------. | o # | lamp "Reset" + square button || // \ | | || // \ | o # | 3 lamps + rocker switch || || | | 8 # | "PE" "Remote" "NRZ" || || 0 | | | (this if my sketch is not wrong) || || | | | || | / | | || |\ / | o | lamp + |`--' `-------' | # | rocker switch "Power" | | | --------------------------- Sorry that my small pencil sketch drawn 4 weeks ago (just before going on holiday) is not better. -- Neil Franklin, neil(a)franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, LARPer, Mystic - - - - -

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NCR tower32

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Hello Frank McConnell Thanks for posting the wireing of that terminal cable Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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NCR tower32

by rachael_＠gmx.net

>I had a NCR tower with the 15 pin ports and didn't have TOO much trouble >connecting a terminal. Basically, I was able to trace the leads back to the >drivers (1488 / 1489) and determine which pins were for output and which >were for input. >It's basic RS232 stuff except the pinouts are funky. okey I`ll have a look at it, a soon I have brougt some of those 15pin conectors. Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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NCR tower32

by rachael_＠gmx.net

> * The 15 pin ports are proprietary serial ports for the NCR > terminals. I don't know if they can be broken out to something > more standard or if the system needs anything special that > the NCR terminals provide. Thank you very much for your infomation. There is a small box on top of tower32, it`s a switch bow it has a 9pin and a 15pin in and a 25pin dsub out, I guess it must be somekind of converte to allow a normal serial port to connect to it. Regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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Trash or Treasure?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:12:13 -0500 Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> writes: > A couple of weeks ago I found a box in a scrap yard with a half > height 8" floppy drive it in. The box was marked "Gen-Rad" and looked like > part of a old piece of test equipment. I picked up the box just for the floppy > drive Actually, this was a good score; mostly because many of the non-dec floppy/hard disk subsystems could be used to format RX01 and RX02 floppies (standard RX drives can't do this-- you have to buy the media pre- formatted from DEC!). I've come across a few GenRad systems; most were UniBUS (PDP-11/44, 11/04, etc.) I found one that used to have a PDP-8! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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TI Explorer...

by yoda＠isr.ist.utl.pt

>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Nealey <mlnealey(a)earthlink.net> writes: Mike> Hi All, I have a need for info on the TI Explorer. Anyone Mike> have anything on this? It was an add in LISP board for Mac Mike> computers. I am specifically looking for docs and any Mike> software. I have a TI explorer here at the AI lab. No one uses it for centuries... There are dozens of manuals for it, and dozens of QIC tapes. I tried to read a couple of them, but they are not tar or cpio format. Cheers, -- *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda(a)isr.ist.utl.pt> *** Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda *** Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR: *** Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboa *** Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGAL *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10 31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585

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NCR tower32

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael_(a)gmx.net> wrote: > My friend has found a NCR Tower32 machine, seems to be > build around a motorola 68020 board with a vme bus, it > has a number of dsub 15pin ports on tha back, seems to be > somekind of terminal interface. It's an oddball RS-232 connector. > Does anyone have any infomation about such a machine ? Such things are out there... I wouldn't mind knowing myself - I have a Multibus NCR tower that I've never powered on (it's in a friend's attic). -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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VT525

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

It's the colour variant of the VT520 and is only 4-ish years old. Housed in a Multia-style case and should take a standard SVGA monitor. You can probably still find info about them on Compaq's website in the Digital portion - go to search then 'search digital'. > -----Original Message----- > From: Olminkhof [mailto:jolminkh@nsw.bigpond.net.au] > Sent: 21 September 2000 14:06 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: VT525 > > > I've found this neat little box labelled a VT525. > What is this? > > Maybe I can keep it and use it as a terminal when I eventually get my > PDP11/23 going? > > It has a module missing from the front and doesn't do > anything except click > when keys are pressed. > > Hans >

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NCR tower32

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Jacob Dahl Pind" <rachael_(a)gmx.net> wrote: > My friend has found a NCR Tower32 machine, seems to be > build around a motorola 68020 board with a vme bus, it > has a number of dsub 15pin ports on tha back, seems to be > somekind of terminal interface. > > Does anyone have any infomation about such a machine ? Believe it or else, about three years ago I posted the following to the old list. Thanks go to the retrobytes.org folks for putting it into a webby archive that is searchable by Google. CharlesII(a)nwohio.nwohio.com wrote: > I found out from a person in the area that low density DB15 > ports if not used for Ethernet are used for a VGA terminal. On NCR gear? News to me, but what do I know? Should you happen to run across NCR Tower serial ports on DA15 connectors, the adapter cable that brings this out to a male DB25 connector looks like this. Both hoods have the following molded into them: One side: TERMINAL 1308-C036-0152 The other side: 006-0089359 U.L. E40323 Ohming it out yields: DA15 DB25 1 - frame ground 1 ------ 3 2 ------ 5 3,12 ------ 4 4 ------ 6,8 9 ------ 2 10 ------ 20 11 ------ 7 I used to use this cable to hook up an HP 700/22 to an NCR Tower's console port. I can't remember whether I had it plugged into a null-modem-like thing or just a gender bender at the 700/22 end, but there must have been something there because both the cable and the terminal have male connectors. Hope this helps someone. -Frank McConnell

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PocketPDP

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> wrote: > On September 20, Tim Harrison wrote: > > > www.ndx.net/pocketpdp > > > > Someone has GOT to make a PalmOS version of this! I refuse to use CE > > devices, but this would RULE on PalmOS. :) > > Damn...if someone DOES port that to PalmOS, I'll go out and BUY one > of those infernal doesn't-recognize-simple-roman-handwriting-like-my- > righteous-but-discontinued-newton-does-so-well Palm boxes. If you did, it would _crawl_. The CPU in the Palm is an enhanced 68000 processor running at a fairly low speed (16Mhz? 20Mhz?). I think it would be cool, too, but intolerably slow. Have you fired up any flavors of PDP UNIX on it? -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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PocketPDP

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 20, Tim Harrison wrote: > > www.ndx.net/pocketpdp > > Someone has GOT to make a PalmOS version of this! I refuse to use CE > devices, but this would RULE on PalmOS. :) Damn...if someone DOES port that to PalmOS, I'll go out and BUY one of those infernal doesn't-recognize-simple-roman-handwriting-like-my- righteous-but-discontinued-newton-does-so-well Palm boxes. I still think "Palm Pilot" sounds like a euphemism. -Dave McGuire

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Apple IIe data Help

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Have person that needs to get his two books that he wrote off of his IIe and onto a PC. What's the best method for this ? Thanks John Keys

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NCR tower32

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> > My friend has found a NCR Tower32 machine, seems to be > > build around a motorola 68020 board with a vme bus, it > > has a number of dsub 15pin ports on tha back, seems to be > > somekind of terminal interface. > > > > Well, I don't know a whole lot about the machine, but basically: > > * The 15 pin ports are proprietary serial ports for the NCR > terminals. I don't know if they can be broken out to something > more standard or if the system needs anything special that > the NCR terminals provide. > I had a NCR tower with the 15 pin ports and didn't have TOO much trouble connecting a terminal. Basically, I was able to trace the leads back to the drivers (1488 / 1489) and determine which pins were for output and which were for input. It's basic RS232 stuff except the pinouts are funky. Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Xerox Alto/Star archives?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hi folks, > > Does anyone have an archive of Xerox Alto/Star software? I'm curious > about OS, applications, research work, whatever. I don't own an Alto, > but I'm concerned about losing the software anyway. I'd really love to > see a Xerox Alto emulator project started, and obviously some working > original software archives are kind of vital for that endeavor. > > While we're at it, does anyone have system schematics or system > architecture documentation? Those seem somewhat relevant as well :) Here's a link: http://www.spies.com/~aek/alto/index.html On a page: http://www.spies.com/~aek/orphanage.html that links to the first, link, the author implies he's got a work-in-progress emulator started. He has some docs also. What I don't think exists anymore is a readable pack containing Smalltalk-72, Smalltalk-74, or Smalltalk-76. Supposedly, Smalltalk-78 was implemented only on the portable Notetaker. Smalltalk-80 would most likely have been implemented for the Alto, but by then, much faster Xerox workstations were available, and people stuck on Altos would have thought of themselves as second-class citizens. Archives do exist of Smalltalk-80; however, they are largely unavailable. Fortunately, Alan Kay, Dan Ingalls, and others who created ST80 at PARC have duplicated the effort now that they work for Disney. The revamped ST80 is called Squeak, and you can download a version of Squeak for almost every platform. For more information on Squeak, check out this link: http://squeak.cs.uiuc.edu/ Regards, -doug q

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RK05 transport tips ?

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>For the RLs, there's a similar clamp somehwere on the positioner. I think >you have to take off the access cover (4 screws on top), lift the door at >the back edge slightly and release the catch. Then take the door off. >Lift the R/W PCB in its screening box (middle of the back section of the >drive) and flip it over towards the right side of the unit. Then examine >the head positioner for a locking clamp and move it so as to lock the heads. Correction: There is a small plate in the front (acessable with pack removed) help in place with 1 small screw that you swing up in front of the heads. There are also 2 or 3 screws that you install in the bottom of the drive to lock the motor in place. Dan

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NCR tower32

by rachael_＠gmx.net

My friend has found a NCR Tower32 machine, seems to be build around a motorola 68020 board with a vme bus, it has a number of dsub 15pin ports on tha back, seems to be somekind of terminal interface. Does anyone have any infomation about such a machine ? regards Jacob Dahl Pind Public Pgp key available on request -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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IBM AS/400 has been dumped

by cem14＠cornell.edu

Today, an AS/400 system has been thrown in a dumpster with a forklift. I can't possibly lift it out of the dumpster, but, if anybody has any use for some of the cards, I'll try to recover some of them. Some of the numbers in the cards are 2615, 6112, 2626, 6140, 2619, 6501, 2592, 3119, 2700 (two), 2800 (two), 2639 (many). The machine is located in the dumpster behind the Hotel school. With a little luck, it might remain there a couple of days, but the weather looks menacing this afternoon. And I know some metal scrapers tour the dumpsters regularly. Carlos. -- Carlos Murillo-Sanchez email: cem14(a)cornell.edu 428 Phillips Hall, Electrical Engineering Department Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853

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