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DEC-423 MMJ -> Serial

by stewart_kevin＠hotmail.com

Hello, I'm looking for a DEC 423 MMJ to DB9 or DB25 cable. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Kevin

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scsi card for microvax 3400

by dburrows＠netpath.net

I already did and pasted below is the response I got from the seller. I work daily with these and unless it ends up real cheap I will not even bother with it. I would only be going for it for the odd customer that might be desperate for a replacement. Put another way I have never had a request for one to date. Dan Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:19:17 -0500 From: Phil Slaughter <orchids(a)usit.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> Subject: Re: Ebay Qbus SCSI #448527001 References: <000901c026af$53eb0f60$a652e780@L166> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: dan, it took some research, since i sold the computer with all of the documentation a couple of years ago and just came across a few "spare parts" recently, but here it is. the is a dtc 11-1 scsi board, made by dtc and compatible with the dec manufactured ones. this particular one was used to connect 2 10.5" iomega alpha 10, 10 meg removable drives to the pdp-11. some of the info i found indicated that this controller board might also work with some sasi drives, but i'm not sure about that. hope this helps. if you should want some iomega drives for your system, if you buy this adapter, then they are available at www.weirdstuff.com/html/drives.htm. thanks for your interest, phil "Daniel T. Burrows" wrote: > Please forward the make and model of this. I am interested but I can't > identify it from the picture. > > Thanks > Dan >Can someone please look at the qbus scsi card on ebay now (item 448527001) and >tell me if it will work in a microvax 3400? > >Thanks...if it will work in a microvax 3400, please don't bid me out. > >-Bob >Bob Brown >Saved by grace >Intranet Sysadmin Page: http://info1.harper.cc.il.us/~bbrown

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Finds at Computer Parts Barn

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

At 07:42 PM 9/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ed Kirby at CPB has lots of Vaxstation 4000's with drives, keyboards, mice >... These are 55mhz machines with 40mb ram, a drive of your choice sizewise >He is asking something like $300.00 for the whole system as described >above. That is a VAX 4000/60 and even on Ebay they rarely go for more than $150. The 4000/90's go for more but they are 72Mhz machines. --Chuck

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> >Having so recently won the battle with a HP pavillion (k62-366 6360), my FYI: if your running an AMD K6-2 faster than 266mhz you need a patch from the MS download site as there is a bug in W95 that it trips up. Allison

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Sync-on-Green Monitors (was: Re: Finds at Computer Parts Barn)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Zane; I have a friend here in Portland who is still in the same business as I was. He specializes in monitors. I saw him pitch a bunch of DEC Fixed Frequency monitors a while back (he had to move) so I know he gets them occasionally. He always has multi syncs. Email me off the list about what you are looking for. Paxton

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> >You're in good company: Keep in mind I had little touch with leadign edge tech back in 70/71 when I made my school choices. I was fixing tube based equippment mostly and an IC was rather crude stuff. >"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their >home." > -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society > Convention, 1977 In one sense he was right but the desktop and killer apps like spreadsheets and user friendly databases were phase one and new. It took more than that to get the kitchen computer real. The internet or more correctly the ubiqious communications it represents was phase two. > difference -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS > is that it's all there. > -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984 > Around the same time I got a Unix the unsystem teeshirt. UNIX in a no symbol (red slashed circle). By time it was getting somewhat worn AT&T made unix a DOD standard and Ultrix was hot soon after. Allison

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VT320 connector

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I acquired a couple of VT320 terminals, but I forgot about the DEC offset connector at the rear. On inquiry, I am told that they come in two flavours: (a) Separate DB25 (female or male) with DEC cable offset connection along with a separate cable with the DEC offset at each end (b) A combined DB25 female at one end and the cable with the DEC offset to be plugged into a VT320 at the other end This is a request to find out if anyone has a couple to spare at a reasonable price? If you are still using them, please don't be concerned as I probably won't get everything set up to use the VT320 terminals for about 4 weeks. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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It runs!

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

It's only called a MicroVAX III when its used to upgrade a I or II in a BA23 or BA123, I think.. something along those lines anyway. Will J _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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pdp 8 information

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I hacked together some pdp8 documentation i've scanned in, and made it available at: http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/~lemay Not all of the links are working at the moment, but you can at least look at the CESI PDP8 Omnibus board information sheets, and PDP 8/L manuals, as well as a few sheets from Douglas Electronics Inc that show pictures of their line of DEC compatible breadboards. More info to come as I find the time to scan it in. I should someday have the doc of PDP 8/E Pascal as written at the University of Minnesota, plus the RX01 images available. Also Pascal-S doc, and a variety of doc on floating point programming for the 8/e (which was used in developing Pascal at the UofM). Somday I might even scan in the User Manual, and the Small Computer Handbook, 8/L versions... Of course, that will take a lot of free time. -Lawrence LeMay

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We saved one!

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

>From the guy who had the free PDP-11 system in the UK, a week or so ago: From: "Andrew Bailey" <engdesk(a)intelfaxdev.co.uk> To: <mrbill(a)mrbill.net> Subject: Thanks for help Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:27:53 +0100 Dear Bill, One Friday afternoon I sent you an email about a free PDP11. Within forty minutes the first interested people were mailing me back. I am happy to report that the machine has now been collected and is going to be put to good use. Many thanks for helping to recycle an impressive (and extremely heavy) computer system. Andrew Bailey Intelfax Developments Ltd. -- Bill Bradford * KD5LQR mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> >I'm using W98, but I have the patch (or a speed related patch anyway). >Lesson one for me was "carefully" make note of ALL the stinkin patches, Yes! Also check out 98lite on the net. Take a few files from w95, a w98 cdrom(SR2!) and use that to script an install for a really nice fast W98 system. >The KILLER though for a Pavillion at least, is that W98 always thinks its >stuff is the best, so if you redetect some hardware it will "SAY" whatever >it has is the "BEST". So many microseconds after the HP specific driver >gets replaced you lockup and get to pursue manually restoring stuff in safe >mode. That can be turned of and it helps to remove the offending files. Msot of the however they are better from a robustness stand point even if they are slower and less feature laden. >Its actually really stinking just how well this system is running right >now. Everything I toss at it, and its been a loading testing frenzy of >boxes of old games, has worked just fine EXCEPT some of the really old DOS Getting some dos stuff to run is a matter of setting up the properties some to make them happy. I've run Gcadd6.1 (DOS!) under w3.1, W95, W98 and it runs killer under WinNT4 and I was told impossible. Allison

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OT: MS Future (Was: RE: Computer Market Phases & a vision of the future)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I see the loss of Microsoft as the industry leader, because of the > anti-trust breakup. Nah... The Supreme Court bounced it back into the D.C. Court of Appeals, and the D.C. Court of Appeals hates Judge Jackson worse than everyone hates MS, so it's lookin' pretty good for 'ol BG.

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Computer Market Phases (Was: Our fine educational system (was : Login on VMS))

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Phase III - Characterized by the start of LSI. Hardware costs were > > still high and operating systems were mostly bundled. Volume was > > still low in most cases - up to about 1985 - IBM was still the major > > player, but no longer so dominant > > MSDOS wasn't available separate from the hardware until much later. > I remember running a copied version of DOS on a brand new '286 clone > I built from parts purchased from Jameco. I searched high and low, > and couldn't find MSDOS unbundled anywhere. This was about a year or > so after the '286 was released (early '90s? I don't remember) Also not quite right... alhtough it certainly wasn't a shrink-wrapped product, you could purchase MS-DOS without hardware by buying the Binary Adaptation Kit. These were available from at least MS-DOS 1.25, and maybe for MS-DOS 1.1 as well. Pretty cool, you got .OBJ files (or were they still .REL files?) for most of DOS, and source for drivers and utilities (ANSI.SYS and PRINT.COM come to mind). regards, -doug q

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It runs!

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

I'm just a bit confused - I don't remember 'em over here in't UK and I've been in the DEC arena since 1984.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Lane [mailto:kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com] > Sent: 27 September 2000 15:01 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: It runs! > > > At 09:44 27-09-2000 +0100, Adrian wrote: > > >MicroVAX III? > > Yeppers. KA650 CPU, DEC codename 'Mayfair.' Wonderful > board, quite a bit > faster than an MV-II (KA630). They run NetBSD quite well. > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=- > Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies > http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com > Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) > "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living > thing in our > own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..." >

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Finds at Computer Parts Barn

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

At 08:59 PM 9/26/00 -0400, Jeff wrote: >But that is only for the computer, often without mice/keyboards and >definitely without the 19" color monitor. The monitors are worth quite a >bit still today. Actually DEC fixed frequency monitors are usually free here on the west coast. Nobody wants 'em since they can't be used with anything else. A nice Viewsonic with dual ports (one for the VAX one for the PC!) gets top dollar. >If breaks down to something like $150 or $200 for the >machine and periperals, Again, its rare that a complete computer + 48M + disk goes for more than $150 on Ebay. > and $100 or $150 for the monitor. However you >break it down, Mice/Keyboards add another $15 - $20. >$300 for a complete, tested system is a good deal. This certainly carries some weight, especially if Ed is willing to warrant that the systems will function after they arrive for some period of time. My only comment was that these are Ebay prices, and often such prices aren't "deals". (A deal is when the message comes across the list 'Free, if you pick 'em up!', that's a deal) So "missing out" on Ed's offer isn't like you won't get a 4000/60 anytime soon, just buy one off Ebay. It is cheap if you look at what the DEC resellers want but that is a totally different market/mindset (and you usually get some support from the reseller) Please don't take this as a negative, it can be feedback for Ed if you choose, but it is always interesting to hear that systems are available. --Chuck

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Free to a good home: HP Paintjet XL - A classic

by whdawson＠mlynk.com

Complete. Original manuals, manual holder, brush, original drivers disk. Clean. Very good condition. What more can I say? Oh, yeah, desirous person pays shipping from Washington, PA 15301. Please contact me off list if interested. Bill whdawson*at*mlynk.com ? Your computer will do far more than you ever expected it to, and that won't be enough. Pournelle's First Law

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Got my PDP-11/34! Now what?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 26, Owen Robertson wrote: > All right. I'll start identifying the boards right now. I spent two months > checking the CPU over before I ever powered it up. I haven't turned on the > drives yet. Where on the internet can I find a site that will help me ID the > cards? http://world.std.com/~mbg/pdp11-field-guide.txt -Dave McGuire

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what is a GRiD 2270?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Saw this grid in a thrift store. I think it's a 2270 model. Its looks like a tablet computer with a flip up LCD and no keyboard. It also appears to have serial/VGA connectors and a pc card slot. any more details on it? DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://www.nothingtodo.org

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TI Explorer...

by mlnealey＠earthlink.net

Hi All, I have a need for info on the TI Explorer. Anyone have anything on this? It was an add in LISP board for Mac computers. I am specifically looking for docs and any software. Thanks! Mike N.

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I got married!

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>Chrissy me branded with the wedding date and her birthday just before the >honeymoon. Ouch! No the real ouch comes when you forget one of them.:) I speak from experience (ex-wife) My present wife and I have both forgotten out wedding date until a week or 2 later. Dan

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Tracy Kidder

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >Ooops. I guess I figured that Tracy was a lady's name. I should get a >copy. It has been some twelve years since I last read it. > >Regards, > >Jeff His full name on the cover is John Tracy Kidder... Allison

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looking for pdp11/05 processor boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 26, Eric Smith wrote: > > Hi folks...subject says it all...anybody got a set of pdp11/05 cpu > > boards that they wouldn't mind parting with? I'm willing to pay a > > reasonable sum. > > Presumably you have an 11/05 backplane to shove them into? Otherwise > they're not much use. Of course I do, man. ;) A whole machine, actually. Just sans processor board set. -Dave McGuire

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I got married!

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

At 22:32 23-09-2000 -0400, you wrote: >>From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> > > >>>Without bothering you all too much, I thought it might be worth knowing >>>that Chrissy and I were married on Sept. 9 2000. It was a beautiful >>>day/time and I love her very much. > > >>Well I for one think that is so on topic that congrats are a must. <snip> I couldn't agree more. Especially considering that you've found an understanding mate that is supportive of your techie side. Speaking from personal experience, do you have ANY idea how rare that is? ;-) >>I do hope she supports your collecting. > >She sure does and I thank God for that. > >She endured my Data General phase without a hiccup. >She Must love me! It took five months. From pillow-talk alone, she knows >more about MV machines than Tracy Kidder herself. If she starts getting edgy about it, you can tell her to E-mail my own lifemate, Dana (kathy(a)bluefeathertech.com). We've been married for six-plus years now, so she knows very well what it means to be married to a budding engineer. Congrats! May you have smooth sailing. Oh, and NEVER forget your anniversary date! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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I got married!

by frustum＠pacbell.net

At 10:32 PM 9/23/00 -0400, you wrote: >... >She endured my Data General phase without a hiccup. >She Must love me! It took five months. From pillow-talk alone, she knows >more about MV machines than Tracy Kidder herself. ... Congratulations. Personally, I prefer Sept 7 as a wedding date (checks inside of wedding ring where date is inscribed ... yes, sept 7). Anyway, Tracy Kidder is a HE, not a SHE. I've seen his picture on the dustjacket of a couple of his books. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >Good God. If you can't handle a 90mhz pentium box then you need another >line of work. Be kind the box is easy it's making winders run that is the real majik. ;) Don't laugh I have two P90s and P100-S at work as regular line system! I find the older boxes easy to work with but... Sometimes when you need data like is the ram FPM or EDO the book (or vendor support) can save a lot of grief and time. Also some of the boards have no markings as to what jumper does what. Allison

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looking for pdp11/05 processor boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks...subject says it all...anybody got a set of pdp11/05 cpu boards that they wouldn't mind parting with? I'm willing to pay a reasonable sum. -Dave McGuire

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Our fine educational system

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> >Well, I think he was figuring the killer app was a smart terminal device >(PDT or better with small local hard disk) and a fast network connection >to a timesharing operation (kind of like a cross between Compuserve At the time there was a bias toward hardware. Also "services" Like the Source and Compuserve were new then. >and a kind of Network Utility Company which would maintain the storage >and apps, fix bugs and supply you with a service. there was that too. >This would keep Joe User from having to become their own System >Admin/System Manager/Development Programmer/Hardware Support Tech. Part of the dream (Billy Gs) was systems would be simple... Who knew? >I think the Oracle Network Computer venture and NetAppliance was close >to what Ken Olson would've envisioned. ('Course it would've been Vax >Clusters on the server end...) Yes, Ellison and fiends want to rent us everything... for a price. >> > difference -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS >> > is that it's all there. >> > -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984 In 1984 this was largely true. DECnet phase IV was in more places with more users than TCP/IP was at the time too. >Kool... wish It was scanned somewhere... The color printer here could >do a pretty good iron-on xfer 8-). Its a rag now. it would not be hard to do. Blue digital keys on the back and the NO symbol with lower case unix (tty font) in the front with the words "the unsystem, never had it never will". Such irony! Allison

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It runs!

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Yes, indeed it does! It's official as of this morning -- I'm managing my own web server (a SPARCClassic at the moment, most likely a MicroVAX III later) thanks to a solid DSL pipeline, a Zyxel router (not classic - in production less than a year), and some static IPs. Next up: Mail servers! Probably a VAXServer 3100 as primary with something else I've not yet chosen as the backup. The final step will be at least one FTP server. I plan to archive as much 'classic' computing and electronic stuff from my field of interests as possible, and make it available to the group on either open (anonymous) login or by authentication (for the stuff that may still be in question, copyright-wise). Stay tuned: More updates as I make them happen. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/26/00 2:29:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes: > I'm using W98, but I have the patch (or a speed related patch anyway). > Lesson one for me was "carefully" make note of ALL the stinkin patches, > then logically work through them all. I flashed the bios, applied all the > W98 stuff, then applications. What is really annoying are the number of CDs > that fairly insist on installing directx of some ancient version, for "best > results". > > The KILLER though for a Pavillion at least, is that W98 always thinks its > stuff is the best, so if you redetect some hardware it will "SAY" whatever > it has is the "BEST". So many microseconds after the HP specific driver > gets replaced you lockup and get to pursue manually restoring stuff in safe > mode. > I have a 5 year old machine that I have similar problems. It has the (in)famous IBM mwave DSP modem which is fragile. Reinstalling all the updates and setting up network settings is time consuming. You should do what I do and that is to GHOST the c: drive after you perfect the installation so if it gets hosed, just reimage it. Big time saver. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://www.nothingtodo.org

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HP 95LX

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> wrote: > Well, I landed an HP 95LX. Naturally, it has no manual. What can you tell > me about it? Well, I used to use one, 'til I replaced it with a 100LX. It's been a few years and I've forgotten a bit. > It has 512K of RAM, of which 256K seems to be used as a RAM disk, and the > sidecar PCMCIA slot has some RadioMail module loaded in it. What type > PCMCIA slot is it? What can I put in it? You should be able to twiddle the RAM partition between system RAM and RAM disk space. I can't remember how though. On the 100LX it is Ctrl+Filer. The slot is PCMCIA 1.0 Type II, meaning pretty much "memory devices only", and I suspect it's not fully standard due to the power limitations of the 95LX (i.e. must run off 2 AA cells). It'll take SRAM cards, some ROM cards (HP made some and maybe that's what your RadioMail module is), I have been told that it will take a very few flash cards that were made with it in mind, and one company (New Media) made a modem for it that was reportedly functional but weird enough that most folks stuck with external pocket modems connected via the serial port. > It also came with a serial? cable terminating in an RJ-45. That's different; maybe it's for the MobiDEM? The "stock" serial cable terminates in a DE3S intended for attachment to a PC/AT style serial port. Note the serial port is effectively three-wire, no hardware flow control. > How programmable is it? I was able to get a DOS prompt (3.22, shiver). Yes and yes. It is not entirely IBM-compatible but it is possible to run some IBM PC-flavored MS-DOS software on it. I used to have a FORTH on the 95LX. Now I have MS QuickC on the 200LX. > It also came with an Ericcson MobiDEM radio modem, but I'll bet it wouldn't > work even if the battery pack were charged. What can I do with this? I don't know. Probably not much, my understanding is that most of the wireless e-mail/Internet providers have basically ditched MS-DOS (and hence HP LX) support for WinCE and PalmOS devices. If I had one I'd probably be looking to cause those responsible some constipation with it. > Nice system though! Very. It's one of the few machines that I'd exempt from the 10-year rule, although I think it's only got another year to go. -Frank McConnell

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VAX 4000/200 issue resolved!

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Fascinating, thanks to Pierre-Michel's analysis of his system I was able to ascertain there wasn't anything wrong with my BA440 at all! The KA660 CPU brings the DSSI bus out to the C/D connector fingers and the CPU I had in the box was a KA640 which does not. Once I knew what should work, I reassembled the system and discovered that the DSSI drive in the rack was completely into the backplane! Youch! Anyway, all is well, I reseated/rebooted and now the DSSI drive is just fine and I'm busily installing VMS to verify the drive's integrity. (I've not NetBSD installed on a scsi disk that hangs off the Q-Bus. --Chuck

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Burroughs

by r.stek＠snet.net

I found this and thought someone here might find it of interest... (reply to Kevin, not me :) Kevin Willis <kwillis41(a)home.com> Chester, Va US - Monday, September 25, 2000 at 11:35:50 I have several old systems and was curious if they have any value and advice on what I can do with them. All I know about them is their BIG and HEAVY. Don't know what works and what doesn't 1 - Burroughs B96 unit - Model #31821150 2 - Burroughs Disk Drives - Model B9493-80 2 - Burroughs Streaming Tape Drives - Model 15 MTS Streamer 2 - Burroughs Printers on stands - Model B9246-6 7 - Burroughs Terminals Any help appreciated Kevin Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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<help!> Need help with HP Vectra

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> >As much as I would "like" to hate windows, I seem to have beaten the beast >into submission currently so that it is no worse than driving an old >foreign pickup instead of a Porsche. On a serious note win95 is not that bad (get osr2 though), it's the MS apps that are really the major pain with office97 being a POS!~ I have one system 486 powered that has only w95 no IE/outlookexpress or added apps that runs wp6, netscape, RFDmail that is fast and tight. The basic kernal is fair what is done to it is horrors. Allison

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Computer Kit / Plans

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Kevin Stewart <stewart_kevin(a)hotmail.com> >Yes, actually I am... I've been talking with Richard Erlacher about a Z80 >box (and trying to decide whether or not to use S100 or just make it an SBC >;) ) but I'm still open to any project at this point. What has been removed >& how far is it from being operable? My $0.02 is go with an SBC based design as S100 has a high overhead getting onto and off the bus. Despite Richards dislike for zilog peripherals and being less than lightining fast that combo would be easier and manageable for a fist time. Allison

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Am I crazy or is someone else?

by stewart_kevin＠hotmail.com

Would somebody else take a look at this auction? I could swear that's a CD-ROM he's selling and not a vaxstation... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=445016650 Kevin

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> >I got to "play around" with a 1KW CO2 laser this way. After getting tired Same here college was a chance to talk to others and also access somethings I didn't have access too in the two way comms industry. As a result while others were studying neon lamp relaxation oscillators and I was using the faraday cage for very small signal expriments or mapping VHF oscillators phase noise. Allison

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HP 95LX

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > It's the same on the 1Mbyte 95LX (which is the model I have). Shift-filer > (leftmost application key) is setup, and then select System and Memory > from the menus. I don't know if the 512K version is like that, though. It should be. My recollection is that the only differences between the 512KB and 1MB units were the extra memory and "1MB RAM" being printed above the top right of the screen. I do remember being able to repartition the RAM between filespace and system RAM on my 512KB 95LX, just didn't do it very often. > > cable terminates in a DE3S intended for attachment to a PC/AT style > > You've been working on larger HP machines too much :-). Those have the > strange 3 and 5 pin DE connectors. Fumble-fingered me. I meant DE9S. You're right though, I crimped a bunch of those funny 3-pin connectors way back in 1984 when we installed an HP3000 Series 64 where I worked. Those connectors were expensive, too. -Frank McConnell

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Sun 386i to give away

by rich＠alcor.concordia.ca

I've got a Sun 386i that I rescued from the dumpster sitting here taking up precious space. I originally thought I'd grab some disk for it and play with it, but, well, spare time and all that. It has the following cards: 540-1062-01 (Framebuffer) 555-1006-01 (?) 501-1423 (Memory, populated by 270-1394's) 501-1244 (?) It has no disk. It also has the storage expansion that clips on top, but that is also empty of disks and tape, and is missing its side panel. The floppy drive is still there, though. :-) I have full documentation for this guy, including all original manuals, the full users' and programmers' documentation sets which cover slightly more than just this machine, much of the promotional materials for it and for the parts it at one point was accompanied by, plus most of the purchase orders for it. I've also got a bunch of QIC media with SunOS and OpenWindows. It's taking up room here, and since I haven't done anything with it yet, I suspect I never will. It's free to whoever wants it; they'll have to pick it up or pay for shipping -- or, if you're a BSD person thinking about a port, talk to me. The machine itself weighs 45 lbs, the expansion unit 25 lbs, and the documentation, um, weights as much as a square foot of paper weighs, times three. :-) I do ask that anyone interested take at *least* the main box and one box of documentation (with the brochures, main manuals, and purchase order history). Shipping would be from Montreal, Quebec. -Rich -- ------------------------------ Rich Lafferty --------------------------- Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 ------------------------- rich(a)alcor.concordia.ca ----------------------

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Computer Kit / Plans

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Kevin- Have you found something to soothe the classic computer beast within? I have an unfinished Sol motherboard & documentation available. The motherboard actually appears to have been finished, when some previous owner decided to unsolder the connectors from the board; however, most all the IC sockets are still in place. Since the docs include theory-of-operation, you should be able to make a working Sol out of this- except, of course, it does not come with a case, keyboard, or power supply. Interested? regards, -doug q

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LN03R printers available

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, NetBSD Bob wrote: > > Get a Lexmark Optra E310. The LN03 is not postscript, the LN03R is. > That E310 looks interesting, but at 400 bucks a pop, that will break > my VAX beer kitty. Well now... if anyone wants an LN03R (aka - DEC ScriptWriter) and will be at the VCF this weekend, I have a pair that could *REALLY* use a new home. Heck, I'll even throw in some extra toner kits. What's the catch? You *gotta* be there! (promise that I won't have to take them back home again), and buy me a Coke (no Pepsi!) or throw a few $$ for gas... Or if you are feeling *really* guilty, bring some old DEC goodies to trade. (I have 8's, 11's, and VAXen so there is lots of variety) -jim --- jimw(a)computergarage.org || jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Iomega Bernoulli 230MB drive

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, Not classic, but a related question: are 230MB Bernoulli drives capable of reading the older 20MB 5.25" Bernoulli disks? I know they can read 44MB and various other capacities. -- Mark

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Computer Kit / Plans

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Kevin- > > Have you found something to soothe the classic computer beast within? Ah, sh*t, did it again, sorry everyone... -dq

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by geoff＠pkworks.com

> >> Ah, well, I don't know about his mouth, but for awhile there several >> non-stupid things came off his drawing pencil. It's kind of tough for a > >You mean Gordon Bell's pencil :) Now, now, don't get me started on this path, please!

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Getting out of touch (was Re: Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS))

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

>Interestingly, Sun now sits where DEC was (their own CPU >architecture/busses + OS) and so they are very vulnerable to someone to >come along and kill them with open software based X86 servers. > >--Chuck Geez makes me wonder why they bought Cobalt!!! Francois

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Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS)

by geoff＠pkworks.com

Ah, well, I don't know about his mouth, but for awhile there several non-stupid things came off his drawing pencil. It's kind of tough for a person who has built a multi-billion-dollar company from scratch over 20 years to realize, let alone admit, that the magic may well have moved on, and that then-current realities may be different from those abroad in "The Good Old Days." Ken's quote is a particularly egregious example of this problem, but the thinking behind it was not unique to him, as anyone who's worked for the now-defunct Massachusetts minicomputer makers can surely attest. That mode of thinking, if not about that particular topic, is afoot today in Silicon Valley, and ten-odd years >from now we'll look back in scorn at the obviously self-evident stupidity of industry pundits currently acknowledged as geniuses. As Yogi Berra is purported to have said, "It's tough to predict, especially the future." -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Our fine educational system (was: Login on VMS) >On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Bill Pechter wrote: > >> "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their >> home." >> -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society >> Convention, 1977 >> -+-+=-+- >> >> ...and then again there's the following. (Both quotes are in my >> FreeBSD box MOTD as a reminder. >> >> One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How >> enthusiastic is our support for UNIX? ><...> >> >> -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984 > >Did anything ever come out of Ken Olsen's mouth that was not very stupid? > >Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- >Looking for a six in a pile of nines... > > VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 > San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California > See http://www.vintage.org for details! >

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[OT] Paypal

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I sell stuff on eBay and have sold stuff to many on this list. PayPal doesn't work for me. Closing my warehouse put me deeply in debt and as a result I don't have and can't get a checking account. PayPal will send me a check but then I have to use a check cashing service which costs me 10%. I have been requesting USPS and Western Union money orders because they are the only instruments that do not cost me a percentage to cash. I have recently had my international and national customers use a service called BidPay (www.bidpay.com). They pay by credit card and BidPay sends me a Western Union money order. Recently Fred Meyer, who is a Western Union agent, has set up a policy of not cashing money orders that come from more than one hundred miles away. I am contesting this with Western Union and Fred Meyer. My alternative is to go back to my check cashing service which charges 10% to cash money orders. I am considering having to further restrict payment to just USPS money orders because of some of these restrictive policies. I am writing this to show there are many reasons why there are restrictions on payments. I am a good finder of equipment. The Ebay feedback rating system is very important. My feedback is 98 at the moment and is full of excellent comments. Check the feedback. If the person has a long run of good feedback the risk goes way down. Ask questions. A good seller doesn't mind answering. If you don't have credit it is tough to do business in this world. I am planning on selling a more S100 cards and DEC cards in the near future. Keep an eye on my seller's name "Innfosale." I love the list. It is always interesting. Paxton Portland, OR eBay seller "innfosale"

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PDP-11/34A help needed

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

OK, Since there has been all this 11/34 discussion lately, maybe I can get some help with mine? Here's the config: 11/34A CPU, FP11-F (I think thats the right name for the FPP), KY11-LA (non-keypad front panel), DL11-W, M9301-YB boot loader, RK11-D, RK05F, RK05J (no packs!), 128KW total memory (4 16K boards, and one 64K board, all are variations of MS11-?), M9302 (of course), 861C power controller, and I think an H960 or whatever rack. OK, first off, which power supply modules would go in the PSU and where? BTW, the 11/34A I have is the big one, it uses a BA11-A.. Second, anyone have a nice DL11-W cable that I could use to connect it to a VT220 or something? Third, does anyone have any spare RK05 packs? Fourth, this may be a dumb question, but which way should the grant continuity cards face, i.e. should the fingers face toward the right (the side the other boards face toward if you stand directly in front of the beastie.) Finally, does anyone have any manuals they can loan me, copy for me, part with, etc.? All I have is the RK05/RK05J/RK05F Maintenance Manual, which is about totally useless right now. And all DEC seems to have available is the 11/34 Illustrated Parts Breakdown... Oh yeah, could also use the top trim panel for the rack ;p Will J _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Computer Kit / Plans

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

I'm interested if nobody else is Francois -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: RE: Computer Kit / Plans > >Kevin- > >Have you found something to soothe the classic computer beast within? > >I have an unfinished Sol motherboard & documentation available. > >The motherboard actually appears to have been finished, when some >previous owner decided to unsolder the connectors from the board; >however, most all the IC sockets are still in place. > >Since the docs include theory-of-operation, you should be able to >make a working Sol out of this- except, of course, it does not >come with a case, keyboard, or power supply. > >Interested? > >regards, >-doug q

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Ride Needed from Davis, CA to VCF 4.0

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

I am going to the Vintage Computer Festival Sep 30 - Oct 1, but like a true Davis resident I have no car, only a bike. Anyone heading west on I-80 to VCF who wants a like-minded driving companion please contact me. Davis is just west of Sacramento. I'd be willing to pay for gas, or barter some PDP/LSI-11 peripherals for your troubles! Regards, Edwin

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pdp-11/44, free to good home

by mbg＠world.std.com

As always, contact the person listed at the end of the post, not me... - - - - - I have a PDP11X44 system. It is located in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area. Free to a good home. PDP-11/44 42-inch cabinet FPP 2-TU58 tape drives 1.75 MB memory RH11 MASSBUS adapter RL11 controller DZ11 RP06 disk drive with 3 packs Please reply to: mazzoni(a)proconsys.com

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