- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mranalog＠home.com

Bill Sudbrink wrote: > ...... Why did this one go for so much? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201894666&ed=977198… Because dmerad(a)hotmail.com retracted his $10,000 bid! http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=1201894666&ed=97719… Of course, he's probably kicking himself now. You might check to see if he would be interested in a Sol marked down to $5,000. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward Press Start Inc. Sunnyvale,CA =========================================

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Florida Vote-O-Matic booths (OT)(Long)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

> The small town in Missouri where I live actually uses the portable punch > card system. It's basically a portable 2' plastic desk with fold up sides > that provide 3 side walls. There are 4 screw-in legs that make it into a > desk. The ballot card is inserted into a slot at the top and there is a > booklet with the candidates names on it. There are round holes in the > booklet where you punch a stylus. The stylus looks like an oversized push > pin. You can't see the "computer card/ballot" while you are voting. > There is no way to know which hole in the card matches a specific > candidate. There is also no way to know if two were punched in the same > category. There is no way to know if you actually punched through because > there is no indication or light that passes through the punched hole. > > There is a good picture of the actual Florida ballot in the article > http://giantstep.com/ballot_usability/ > > /---------| > / | > | x | > | z | > | y | > | | > | | > | | > | | > ------------ > x = vote for candidate #1 > z = vote for candidate #2 > y = vote for candidate #3 > > I think we have about 300 voters in our community. If there are more than > 4 people in line then that's a big line. We have 3 voting locations, a > school, a church, and a community club. Actually when we vote for school > board, the top three vote getters are usually elected. Some positions are > uncontested and some have no candidates. Some times there are elections > with only 1 or 2 races. > > Mike > mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu >

25 years, 6 months

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Vintage computers in movies

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

There's a huge amount of Honeywell equipment in "Billion Dollar Brain". -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 6 months

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storage media

by Scott.Miller＠vandenberg.af.mil

Sorry, forgot to specify... it's running Digital Unix 4.0b at the moment. I might move it over to my SGI Indigo2 running IRIX. -----Original Message----- From: John Foust [mailto:jfoust@threedee.com] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:20 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: storage media At 06:28 PM 12/15/00 +0000, Miller Scott Contr 30CS/FTI wrote: >Speaking of VICE, in a fit of boredom I set up an AlphaStation with VNC to >launch remote C-64 emulation sessions, sort of a C-64 ASP. You just fire up >your VNC client, point it at the server, and you get an emulated C-64 with a >bunch of old game disks. I haven't had it running since I moved over the >summer, but if anyone's interested I can fire it up and publish the address. An Alphastation running which OS? And VNC doesn't handle sound, does it? Hmm, maybe it should. And you know about the built-in VNC web server, right? You don't even need a client, just a browser. Emulation ASP not only sounds like fun, but it's probably a more meaty business model than your average dot-com. - John

25 years, 6 months

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Vintage computers in movies

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/19/00 10:23:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, John Foust wrote: > > > Probably right after they stop adding gratuitous sounds and > > inaccurate functions to computers: dot-matrix printer sounds, > > beeps and boops that would drive you nuts if the damn machine > > actually made that sound all the time, slow-motion text display, > > fonts larger than your mouse, etc. > > I especially like how a lot of computers in movies sound like the terrible > Atari 2600 version of PacMan. > > Sellam Ismail what's even more pathetic is that a commercial is running here advertising best buy/compusa or something like that that shows two guys playing at a game console in a store and it's making atari2600 pacman sounds! Its always interesting that computers in movies and tv constantly make the same beep as the original IBM PC does and that these same movie computers need a lot of typing rather than just a slight movement of the wrist and a click of the mouse button. I guess using a mouse doesnt look as interactive as madly typing on a keyboard. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid! http://www.nothingtodo.org

25 years, 6 months

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Some changes

by b.layer＠vikingelectronics.com

Hello everyone, Please be advised that I am intending to leave my position at Viking Electronics on January 4th, 2001, and my last regular day of work will be December 22nd 2000. My current work email address of <b.layer(a)vikingelectronics.com> will expire sometime during that period with no further notice. Any and all future correspondence shold be directed to my home email address: "Bill Slacking Layer" <blayer(a)qwest.net> I'm looking forward to an extended and long-overdue rest before I take up a new position in the coming weeks. Thanks very much, -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | .:Bill Layer:. | Viking Electronics,Inc. 1531 Industrial St | | .:Sales Technician:. | Hudson, WI 54016 USA + 715.386.8861 x210 | | b.layer(a)vikingelectronics.com | http://www.vikingelectronics.com | ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Telecom Solutions for the 21st Century" + Powered by Slackware Linux 7.1.0

25 years, 6 months

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Vintage computers in movies

by rivie＠teraglobal.com

Hooray! Whatever was preventing my access to ClassicCmp seems to have been cleared up. There's a Commodore Pet in the first Star Trek movie. It's in Kirk's apartment and is painted silver (you can see it behind him when he opens the door to let McCoy in when McCoy gives him the glasses). The fun thing about the PDP-8/e in "Three Days of the Condor" is that there was a computer magazine which used that as a trivia question, but gave the answer as being a PDP-11; they didn't print my nasty letter to the editor... Does anyone know what is used in "Rollerball"? IIRC, there are some prominent Sperry logos, but I don't know enough about Sperry equipment to be able to identify it. The secretary in "Ghostbusters" uses a DECmate II. The video phone in "Buckaroo Bonzai" is a DEC machine; the logo is covered up, but it's too small to be a Pro, so it's either a Rainbow or a DECmate II. There's a forest of Crays in "Reno Williams", although the actual user interface is done on a PC. I presume the forest of Crays was done with mirrors. -- Roger Ivie rivie(a)teraglobal.com Not speaking for TeraGlobal Communications Corporation

25 years, 6 months

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Nova manual free to good home

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

I got it for someone but he already has a copy. It's "How to Use the Nova Compueters". It covers the Nova, Nova 800, Nova 1200, and Supernova. It explains the insruction set, I/O in general, details of specific I/O devices, interfacing and timing (with some schematics), and installation. It's 8 1/2" by 11", softbound, rather worn (pen marks inside, tape on binding, coffee-cup ring on cover), but the paper and printing are in good shape. Trades in kind (documentation, source code, book, magazine, etc.) or of 8-bit micro software happily accepted. I'm going on vacation at the end of the week so if you don't reply soon, expect a delay. -- Derek

25 years, 6 months

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Atari questions from non-Atari person

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

Today some folks came into the shop and inquired about a new Windows-based PC. They've been using an Atari (which I know nothing about) for over ten years. They use it to print flyers, manage a mailing list, do word processing, and other minor tasks. They "think" the system is a Mega ST 4 (corrections, please). They "know" that they are using Calamus, Tracker, and WordPerfect on their Atari. My questions to the group: Is there a Windows 9x emulator for this machine so they can run their old programs and use their old data? If not, can Calamus, WP, and Tracker data be transferred to a Win9x machine and accessed using current Win9x programs? In other words, they want to retain the functionality and data of their old Atari and at the same time move to a Win9x platform. Any help, as always, is greatly appreciated. Glen Goodwin 0/0

25 years, 6 months

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Snipe S/W?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 19, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > - Know who your friends are. If you find yourself constantly > > coming up against the same person on stuff, send him or her > > some email. Get to know the other person. Try to form some > > sort of working relationship that facilitates communication > > on a per-auction basis. Decide amongst yourselves who wants > > or needs the item more. Concede once in a while. It's better > > to have friends than enemies...and sometimes those friends > > spot things that you may have missed. > > Not that I plan to turn you in (as long as you send me $100 within the > next 2 weeks, e-mail me for my address :) but this practice is actually > illegal. It's illegal to (for example) send my friend "sartoris1" email saying "hey Doug I see you're bidding on that lot of DEC processor handbooks...I really want 'em and was gonna bid, but if you really want 'em I'll back off.."?? Does that really constitute collusion? If so, then I believe this is one instance in which the letter of the law doesn't faithfully represent the spirit of the law. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 6 months

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$3551 Sol???

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 19, Michael Nadeau wrote: > The second-highest bidder has also placed large bids on other items, > including the Apple I ($18,475), 20th anniversary Mac ($1,925), and a MIB FYI, that 20th anniversary mac price isn't too far out of line. Most of them go for $1500-1800. Most of them sold on eBay come with G3 upgrade boards and large drives preinstalled, and so-equipped they make perhaps the best kitchen table web browsing machine I've ever used. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 6 months

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VT180/Robin system help needed

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Claude <claudew(a)sprint.ca> >The owner told me the Robin board was modified to use 1M drives (?). >There are a couple ou wire jumpers on the Robin board. Also got some >disks, Robin schematics, a few CP/M manuals... 1m???? maybe two sided 8". the best you can do with it is 800k using 80tr/2sided DD. >2 BNC connectors on the Robin board. Whats coming outta there? video? on >both? composite? Those are on the VT100 board. Video in and video out, VT100 can sync to external video. Makes a fair char gen. >What drives should I be using to boot the Robin? The RX50-AAs or the >Shugarts 400L? SA400s but if he modded the boot roms then anything goes. >I see 2 DB25 ports on the Robin board and a larger (DBxx) on the VT100 >board, anything special? larger DB (37 pins) is on the VT180 card and is the FDC connector. The VT180 is the 54-15152 board { z80, 64k dram, 4 8251s, 1793}. >DIP switches on VT100...whats the deal there? config for AVO, serial port (DTR/DTC if memory serves). >Anything else I should look out for? > >Anybody know where VT180 info is available...I would like to see the >guts of one... the Vt180 design is near textbook z80 without zilog peripherals. I have a fair amount but,not scanned. I've hacked the board hard. I bought a box of Vt180 cards (about 20 of them) and mods I've worked include: Standalone (no VT100 required) 2 sided Z80 @6mhz Modded bios for 782k on 3.5" floppy IDE interface hacks CP/M in ROM Extended ROMs and paged ram I've used it as a stand alone printerbuffer. Allison

25 years, 6 months

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Vintage computers in movies

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Nope, I have a Pro 325 in my garage, and it's the same size case as a Rainbow or Pro 350/380... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 6 months

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TRS-80 Model 4P needs new home

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone here who can afford shipping of three boxes weighing 7 pounds, 33 pounds, and 68 pounds respectively from zip code 98039 want a complete TRS-80 Model 4P (this is the portable version) with manuals and everything? If you do, please contact me directly. Serious inquiries only please. This is the fourth time I've advertise for this system trying to find it a new home. Someone has GOT to want this! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 6 months

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HP plotters

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Regarding a plotter as a router. If I remember correctly from my plotter software days, you can issue a command that slows the pen movements down. I think you can define the acceleration rate. Alternatively you can postprocessor the plotter file to find any large plotter movements and recode them as a series of smaller movements. I have actually hand typed/edited plotter commands to correct a simple error in the plot file instead of reloading the drawing into the CAD system and then replotting. I'll look at my cheat sheet of HP plotter commands tonight. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 6 months

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Olivetti PC1

by optimus＠canit.se

I'm looking through some old issue sof Your computer, and in the october '87 issue, the cover story is Olivetti's attempt at a home PC, the PC1. Why someone would like to have an IBM compatible at home is beyond me, but look at the design! It's difficult to describe, but very 80s, very Italian. Extremely compact, CPU and keyboard integrated into a home micro-ish console, with 3,5" drives protruding from the top of the keyboard. Runs on a NEC V40 and has got a CGA adapter. Apparently the sound is "hi-fi". But look at the design! Drool. Was this radical design ever released, though? Has anyone got a PC1? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon X Campaign Against / \ HTML Mail!

25 years, 6 months

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11/34 troubles

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I hate it when I do this. So I started playing around with the 11/34 and discover that 2 bits aren't being set on the words I try to load into memory. I guess it is perhaps bad memory, I don't have a way to test it other than to load in a program from the front panel, so I pull the memory and replace it with 64KW that are known to be good. Now it shows the top 4 bits as being stuck on. I pull the memory, blow out the connectors, look for loose dirt etc that I've missed, reseat the memory but no joy. Everything else seems to be working so the next suspect is the KY-11B, if it had lost a buffer it could exhibit this behaviour. I pull the KY-11B and check it out, it looks ok so I clean out the connectors where it is seated and re-install. No joy, 4 bits stuck. Now I'm really irritated, so I take the KY11B from my working 11/34 and replace it, great all the bits work. Ok so I've got a KY11B to fix. Not too much of a problem since it is pretty simple. I put back the original memory and now I get BUS ERR whenever I try to touch memory. Ok, figure the memory board was bad and put the good board back in so that I can work on the RL11 but wait, now it also gives me a BUS ERR indication. I check to make sure I haven't dislodged any of the stubby grant cards, they are fine, pull the terminator and move it up to the end of the first back plane. Still I get the BUS ERR indication. ARGH! --Chuck

25 years, 6 months

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VT180/Robin system help needed

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

The RX02 has afair 77 tracks, 26 sectors at 256 bytes giving 512512 bytes. In RSX11M sources at some places an RX03 is mentioned at double RX02 capacity. This was never sold by DEC. But an 1 Mb 8" floppy is very much possible. Wim ---------- > From: ajp166 <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: VT180/Robin system help needed > Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 8:06 PM > > From: Claude <claudew(a)sprint.ca> > >The owner told me the Robin board was modified to use 1M drives (?). > >There are a couple ou wire jumpers on the Robin board. Also got some > >disks, Robin schematics, a few CP/M manuals... > > > 1m???? maybe two sided 8". the best you can do with it is 800k using > 80tr/2sided DD. > > >2 BNC connectors on the Robin board. Whats coming outta there? video? on > >both? composite? > > > Those are on the VT100 board. Video in and video out, VT100 can sync to > external video. Makes a fair char gen. > > >What drives should I be using to boot the Robin? The RX50-AAs or the > >Shugarts 400L? > > > SA400s but if he modded the boot roms then anything goes. > > >I see 2 DB25 ports on the Robin board and a larger (DBxx) on the VT100 > >board, anything special? > > > larger DB (37 pins) is on the VT180 card and is the FDC connector. > The VT180 is the 54-15152 board { z80, 64k dram, 4 8251s, 1793}. > > >DIP switches on VT100...whats the deal there? > > > config for AVO, serial port (DTR/DTC if memory serves). > > >Anything else I should look out for? > > > >Anybody know where VT180 info is available...I would like to see the > >guts of one... > > > the Vt180 design is near textbook z80 without zilog peripherals. > > I have a fair amount but,not scanned. I've hacked the board hard. I > bought > a box of Vt180 cards (about 20 of them) and mods I've worked include: > > Standalone (no VT100 required) > 2 sided > Z80 @6mhz > Modded bios for 782k on 3.5" floppy > IDE interface hacks > CP/M in ROM > Extended ROMs and paged ram > > I've used it as a stand alone printerbuffer. > > Allison >

25 years, 6 months

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HP plotters

by g.wheeler＠worldnet.att.net

re: From: Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk Date: 09/03/99-07:23:55 AM Z >I like the idea of a router in the pen part of a plotter - but it's a lot of >mass for the pen carriage to move around! > >Philip. Am working on a router table based on the HP 7225A single pen 8 1/2"x11" flatbed plotter. To make architectural models out of foam etc. Built an aluminum gantry-crane type arrangement that supports a Dremel tool. Tried to keep mass and friction low as possible. Connected it to the plotter with a pantograph arrangement. The plotter will drive the dremel tool well at slow speed. HOWEVER, when the plotter gets the message "PU" pen up, it RACES to the next x,y coordinate. This quick movement throws calibration and accuracy off. The other problem is printing from a Windows CAD program to an old plotter like this. Gary Gary M. Wheeler, AIA home page: http://g.wheeler.home.att.net

25 years, 6 months

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The debate on what per say is a mini...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >I just spec'd a new fileserver for our office: > > > > Dell PowerEdge 2400 > > Dual hot-swap power supplies > > 6-bay hot-swappable drives > > RAID 1 & 5 > > 512MB ECC SDRAM > > Those run about $500 these days right? > > OT, but has anybody else been surprized at how fast the current generation > of processors are falling in price? 1.4 Ghz P4 has gone in the last couple > weeks from about $1400 to under $700. The price of that CPU *should* fall fast- a 1.2GHz P-II is faster... -dq

25 years, 6 months

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College kids research Infocom

by jfoust＠threedee.com

http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/19/1313235.shtml but unfortunately their summary paper is a 9 meg PDF. - John

25 years, 6 months

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OT. THE TWELVE RECOUNTS OF CHRISTMAS was Sign Me Up for a Vote-A-Matic

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

>Subject: THE TWELVE RECOUNTS OF CHRISTMAS > >THE TWELVE RECOUNTS OF CHRISTMAS > >On the first recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...a disputed presidency. > >On the second recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the third recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the fourth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, > and a disputed presidency. > >On the fifth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...five court filings! Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, > two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the sixth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...six disenfranchised voters, five... court filings! > Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, > and a disputed presidency. > >On the seventh recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...seven politicians babbling, six disenfranchised voters, > five court filings! Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, > two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the eighth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...eight spokesmen whining, seven politicians babbling, six >disenfranchised voters, five court filings! Four contested ballots, > three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the ninth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...nine reporters guessing, eight spokesmen whining, > seven politicians babbling, six disenfranchised voters, > five court filings! Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, > two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the tenth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...ten legal rulings,nine reporters guessing, eight spokesmen whining, >seven politicians babbling, six disenfranchised voters, five court >filings! Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, two campaign >spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the eleventh recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...eleven judges judging, ten legal rulings, nine reporters guessing, >eight spokesmen whining, seven politicians babbling, > six disenfranchised voters, five court filings! Four contested ballots, >three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, and a disputed presidency. > >On the twelfth recount of Christmas my country gave to me > ...twelve lawyers lying, eleven judges judging, ten legal rulings, > nine reporters guessing, eight spokesmen whining, seven politicians >babbling, six disenfranchised voters, five court filings! > Four contested ballots, three pregnant chads, two campaign spins, and...a >disputed presidency. >

25 years, 6 months

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Sign Me Up for a Vote-A-Matic

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 03:40 PM 12/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >> > that ran the original DIA baggage system... >> >> Could it be that you have a machine even more >> despised than the Florida Vote-O-Matic booths >> with the special decis-E-rase buffer pads... >> ...Uuuh forget it. >> >> John A. >> Would like to get my hands on >> one of those and a steam roller. > >No, noooo! Have you forgot the cardinal rule of >computing- gigo (garbage in, garbage out)? > >These may be the last of the DataProducts card >readers! Don't put the blame on them, when it >was those garbage pre-punched cards that were >to blame! > >For any of you who are in Florida, when, early next >year (I'd guess), they outlaw the Vote-A-Matic, I'd >like to get one of these dear old friends. Hmmm, I haven't thought of it but I guess they'll be an instant collectible. I'll have to start watching for them at the auctions. Joe

25 years, 6 months

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Fault-tolerant computers (supposedly)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hmm, the recent discussion about the "shoot the other node in the head" or whatever reminds me of the so-called "fault-tolerant" 486 machines I have that ran the original DIA baggage system... Hehehehe... They make very lovely end tables! Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 6 months

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RL01/RL02

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>From: "John Allain" <John.Allain(a)donnelley.infousa.com> >Subject: RE: RL01/RL02 >> The RL01/02 pocket service guide is still avalable >> from Compaq, $42, http://www.digital.com/dassearch.html, >> enter rl01 > >r101 entry Did Not work. > Is it RL01, not R101. (either case works) >From: Paul Williams <flo(a)rdel.co.uk> >Subject: Re: RL01/RL02 > >This was also a friend's experience when attempting to order the VT100 >User Guide. I wish they'd remove these items from their price list, >because it would make me feel happier about scanning them. > Thats annoying, I know that before Compaq when I ordered stuff they didn't have it did leave the price list some time later. I was also assuming that when people can't buy them they would go away so I can put them online. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

25 years, 6 months

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New Find: Sanyo Navigator - has crt problems

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

It was "blue tag" day at the thrift store - 50% off. I found this black box with a 9" crt, telephone and floppy drive. There was a bit of thermal fax paper hanging out the back and the top lifted off to reveal a paper input hopper. The whole thing seems to be a piece of office equipment, c. 1990, consisting of an integrated phone, fax and 8086-based PC. Locating and removing the kilogram of metric screws reveals a 40-pin drive interface (with a Fuji FK311X-50R drive attached), a 720K Sony floppy, a bunch of 64K DRAM zips, an externally accessible 27C1024 EPROM and the general sorts of things one finds in an 80x6-based box. Does anyone have any information on this guy? Web searching for keywords like Sanyo and Navigator comes up with *lots* of hits, but none useful. One problem with this unit - the crt has a collapsed display - all the video signal is shown one pixel tall. I know it's likely to be a very simple fix, but I'm not an awesome TV repair dude. The interface between the CRT and the CPU is a single, proprietary cable. Other than the lack of video, the box seems to boot. The hard disk makes proper sorts of noises and the caps lock, scroll lock and num lock keys all make the lights go on and off. Thanks for any hints, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

25 years, 6 months

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Free/trade DEC stuff

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Hi I know a lot of people collect Digital stuff on here. But I have no idea of how rare or un-rare this is: This will most likely go into garbage soon - at next major bi-monthly cleanup. I got a DEC LA100 logic board in a lot of DEC Robin stuff. I have no use for this LA100 board. No idea if it works. Looks complete and in good shape, no apparent damage or missing parts. Tags on eproms had fallen of. Perhaps EPROM data is now corrupt. I also have a DEC RRD42-AA (SCSI) CdroM drive. Dont know if it works. Not dead when power applied. Takes and ejects caddy/cd. It was with some parts I got from someone with a VAX8350...perhaps that was used with it (?) I had forgotten about this...pretty sure this is a 1X unit. Needs a caddy. Free or will accept anything you wanna throw out that might interest me in return. Shpping will be from Montreal Canada. Expect maybe $5US-$10US for shipping costs. I have been posting quite a bit of stuff for free/trade lately. I try to post anything "interesting" and in great shape before I throw out. Sometimes perhaps it's not too interesting. If it's getting to some people - tell me. Claude The Canuk Computer Collector (It's cold up here now...time to hide in basement and restore some computers...)

25 years, 6 months

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VT180/Robin system help needed

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Hi Picked up 2 boxes full of VT180 stuff from a ex Digital employee. Got a keyboard, Vt100 and robin board, small "backplane" board, 2 Shuggart 400L Digital branded drives and 4 RX50-AA drives. Also got a VT100 keyboard and a VT100 power supply and several cables. Seems everything is there except VT100 case/crt...could always build this in some full/half tower AT PC case...still I will hunt for a VT100...this is for collecting and not using really... The owner told me the Robin board was modified to use 1M drives (?). There are a couple ou wire jumpers on the Robin board. Also got some disks, Robin schematics, a few CP/M manuals... Questions:(I have not looked at the schematics yet......) 2 BNC connectors on the Robin board. Whats coming outta there? video? on both? composite? What drives should I be using to boot the Robin? The RX50-AAs or the Shugarts 400L? I see 2 DB25 ports on the Robin board and a larger (DBxx) on the VT100 board, anything special? DIP switches on VT100...whats the deal there? Anything else I should look out for? Anybody know where VT180 info is available...I would like to see the guts of one... Thanks for the Help again Claude The Canuk Computer Collector

25 years, 6 months

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GSOS 4.02

by eweidenh1＠hotmail.com

Does anyone out there have a copy of GSOS 4.02 in Mac Diskcopy format? This is for us losers who don't have any fancy Rom upgrades of a decent amount of Ram. As far as I can tell is isn't available on the internet. Apple, of course, has the lastest system software available but that does'nt do people like me much good. I'd really like to see GUI on my GS rather than just Prodos. If you can help let me know. Thanks all. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Early Hayes Modems

by bill_h＠azstarnet.com

The Microcoupler is just the phone line interface, of a two part modem. That same coupler was used on the S-100 board version modem and the Apple II board modem. Seems to me the telephone company required a separate DAA (data acquisition something_or_other?) to interface to ''their'' phone lines. Remember all that crap about we couldn't just hook things up - we might ''damage'' telephone company property? Turns out all we really damaged was their profits! Bill Hemmings Tucson, AZ

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Semicon storage

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Semiconductor storage solution What you really need to do is place each semiconductor chip in a individual case lined with black foam with a barcode on the outside of the case. You then have a database that knows which barcode is which chip. You have a huge bin filled with bar-coded cases and a robot arm that picks up each case examines the barcode and then if it's not the correct one drops the case into another huge bin. When the robot is through sorting the bin then you have two pieces of information the, identify of all of your chips and an inventory. We really should think of elegant computer solutions for problems that deal with computers instead of simple mechanical ones. This solution would involve robots, computer vision, barcodes, scanning and databases. You could create an entire industry to solve a simple problem, start a company, have a IPO, make millions, laugh all the way to the bank. That's what computers are for to keep track of other computers. Mike :) PS I'm just kidding!! mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Sign Me Up for a Vote-A-Matic

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > that ran the original DIA baggage system... > > Could it be that you have a machine even more > despised than the Florida Vote-O-Matic booths > with the special decis-E-rase buffer pads... > ...Uuuh forget it. > > John A. > Would like to get my hands on > one of those and a steam roller. No, noooo! Have you forgot the cardinal rule of computing- gigo (garbage in, garbage out)? These may be the last of the DataProducts card readers! Don't put the blame on them, when it was those garbage pre-punched cards that were to blame! For any of you who are in Florida, when, early next year (I'd guess), they outlaw the Vote-A-Matic, I'd like to get one of these dear old friends. OTOH, if anyone has one already, especially one of the models with the Pr1me colors, let me know, maybe we can work out some kind of deal. Regards, -dq

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The debate on what per say is a mini...

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I have seen several articles on why companies are choosing mainframes as servers for PC networks. 1. Scalability If you need a PC based server for every 100 PC's and a system administrator for each server and you have 2000 PC's then you need 20 system administrators, also 20 backups, also 20 sets of passwords, permissions and rights lists. How do you keep the systems synchronized and running. Logistics nightmare. 2. Predictability. You can buy a "mainframe" from IBM and know what costs, licenses, and hardware will cost. Your software probably won't need an infinite number of patches to run. You can buy known network and backup solutions. 3. Stable OS. The operating system is a known quantity with predictable costs to support. You can hire staff that have mainframe experience. 4. IBM actually is selling more "mainframe" hardware than ever before. Enough with the big iron. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Fault-tolerant computers (supposedly)

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

I've seen a couple of voteomatic machines (suitcase variant) on eBay... :-) -----Original Message----- From: John Allain [mailto:John.Allain@donnelley.infousa.com] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 3:05 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Fault-tolerant computers (supposedly) > that ran the original DIA baggage system... Could it be that you have a machine even more despised than the Florida Vote-O-Matic booths with the special decis-E-rase buffer pads... ...Uuuh forget it. John A. Would like to get my hands on one of those and a steam roller.

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Atari questions from non-Atari person

by markp＠wccls.lib.or.us

>-----Original Message----- >From: Iggy Drougge [mailto:optimus@canit.se] >Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 4:35 PM >To: Lawrence Walker >Subject: Re: Atari questions from non-Atari person >Lawrence Walker skrev: >> Whoa, what magazines pray tell. I thought all of the ST zines had >>folded their cards or were unfulfilled launches. >The only serious ST print mag I know of which is still published is ST >Computer/Atari inside of Germany. However, it went subscription-only last >year, so I can't buy the occasional issue at Interpress anymore. =( Antic, a mag devoted to Atari 8-bitters, went out in '91 (I think), but check out the Digital Antic Project page at http://www.atarimagazines.com/. They've scanned and archived articles from most of magazine's run and offer a complete index. A nice resource. If someone's done something similar for the early ST, I'd like to know about it. Mark ============================== Mark Price, Library Computer Specialist Washington County Cooperative Library Services e-mail: markp(a)wccls.lib.or.us voice: 503-846-3230 fax: 503-846-3220

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RL01/RL02

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Somewhere I have the RL01 printset, and also the RLV11 (or is it 12?) printset... I also have 3 M8061's, one RL11, and at least one of the other qbus interfaces, should anyone need one. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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RL01/RL02

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>From: Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> >I hope some day, maybe some kind person will do the same >for the RL02. > I put up the RL01/02 user guide, search on RL01 or RL02 at http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8cgi/query_docs/query.pl sorry, don't have printset/maintenance manual. The RL01/02 pocket service guide is still avalable from Compaq, $42, http://www.digital.com/dassearch.html, enter rl01

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RL01/RL02

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:50:34 -0500 David Gesswein <djg(a)drs-esg.com> writes: > >From: Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> > >I hope some day, maybe some kind person will do the same > >for the RL02. > > > I put up the RL01/02 user guide, search on RL01 or RL02 at > http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8cgi/query_docs/query.pl > sorry, don't have printset/maintenance manual. Wow, thanks David! This is a *very* interesting document, and as per usual, has lots of useful information . . . Thanks again! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Early Hayes Modems

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Umm, I threw a couple of them away last year, no particularly interesting parts inside them either.. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Fwd: Atari in hospital

by yoda＠isr.ist.utl.pt

This link has just appeared in slashdot. I guess it deserves a closer look: http://www.asw.cz/~kubecj/aczhwho.htm Note the last photo... :-) Cheers, -- *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda(a)isr.ist.utl.pt> *** Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda *** Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR: *** Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboa *** Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGAL *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10 31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585

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classiccmp-digest V1 #457

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:40:07 -0500 > From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > Subject: Re: TV Tuner cards (on topic, honest :) > > Adrian, > > I had* a couple of Zydacron Z-220 CODEC Video Conferencing > cards that > handled both NTSC and PAL. They didn't have TV tuners so I > don't know if They wouldn't have done then - I need something that can tune to PAL-I channel 36 and whatever channel the NTSC machines poke out :) > Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:51:28 +0000 > From: Jim Arnott <jrasite(a)eoni.com> > Subject: Virus/worm? > > This morning I received a post to classiccmp from > 'null(a)domain2.bigpond.com' containing an executable entitled > 'CAHFPJCA.EXE'. I run a Mac, so it's no threat to me, but folks > running the 90% solution might want to be careful... Digest mode's great - I just got a load of MIME that I couldn't have run even if I wanted to :) > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:19:12 -0000 > From: Miller Scott Contr 30CS/FTI <Scott.Miller(a)vandenberg.af.mil> > Subject: RE: TV Tuner cards (on topic, honest :) > > I just picked up a Pinnacle Systems Studio PCTVpro at Office > Depot for about > $80. It does NTSC, PAL, and SECAM. Or at least it says it > does... I don't > have anything besides NTSC to test it with. That's odd. I'm sure I looked at the PCTV Pro over here and it didn't mention NTSC.....have to check again at lunchtime - there's a PC World 5 minutes from here. > ------------------------------ > > Date: 15 Dec 00 19:09:40 +0100 > From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se> > Subject: Re: TV cards/WOZ disks > > Adrian Graham skrev: > > >It's the official C= D23 to red/white/yellow RCA type > connectors to plug > >into a 1084 monitor or any CVBS supporting monitor like the > Philips CM8833. > > It would be rather silly venture to plug a composite signal > into a 1084 or an > 8833. Granted, it would certainly work (I do that, for > technical reasons), but > these monitors will happily accept RGB, and should be fed accordi Not when you haven't got an RGB cable and only have the proper CVBS one complete with stereo audio :) I've only ever ran Amigas on either an old DEC Rainbow colour monitor (RGB Sync on green) or a 1084ST (CVBS). > ------------------------------ > > Date: 16 Dec 00 00:23:00 +0100 > From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se> > Subject: Olivetti PC1 > > Extremely compact, CPU and keyboard integrated into a home > micro-ish console, > with 3,5" drives protruding from the top of the keyboard. > Runs on a NEC V40 > and has got a CGA adapter. Apparently the sound is "hi-fi". > But look at the design! Drool. > > Was this radical design ever released, though? Has anyone got a PC1? Wot, the Olivetti Prodest PC1? Ho yus. Definitely released and if I'd had my wits about me a few weeks ago I could've had both single and dual floppy versions, one complete with monitor, for 5 or 10 of your english pounds. Unfortunately I'd run out of both time and money! cheers!

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Vintage computers in movies

by mranalog＠home.com

Bill Sudbrink said: > > It got me thinking though about other old computers that I've > > seen in movies recently. Here's what I can remember so far. > > > > Televideo TS-802 -Pretty in Pink > > AT&T 6300 -Secret to My Success > > IMSAI -Wargames > > Real Genius - HP-150 And I'd like to add an analog to the list: "When Worlds Collide"(1951) - the GE Differential Analyzer at UCLA http://avserver.lib.utmem.edu/HSLBC/Instruction/Courses/LBC721/Lecture_2_In… (the Quicktime movie on this page is 7137K) http://avserver.lib.utmem.edu/HSLBC/Instruction/Courses/LBC721/Lecture_2_In… (Just one frame from the movie) --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward Press Start Inc. Sunnyvale,CA =========================================

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I have returned...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Back! I'm back. Everyone relax. ;-) Some quick news bits in case not everyone's caught up. NetBSD 1.5 is out, and I've managed to burn a bootable CD-R for it for VAX platforms. I'm also working with another fellow to get a tape-bootable image going for them. My next attempts will be at bootable CD's for Alpha, ARC, and possibly others. For those of you that are into both ham radio and old computers, I've rescued an AEA PAKRATT-64 from the local thrift store. This beastie was used in conjunction with the Commodore-64 systems to provide amateur packet communications. Maybe it's usable for RTTY as well? Anyway, I'll be putting the thing up on E-pay as soon as I clean it up and do some basic checks on it. It's not classic, per se, but I have a new laptop that I've loaded down with engineering and reference apps. It'll be, in essence, my "field guide" on steroids. The only other thing I can think of at the moment is that, for some reason as yet unknown to my conscious mind, I've developed a serious interest in the former Bell System. As a result, I've started collecting memorabilia in the form of tools, phones (back to the mid-70's or so... anything earlier doesn't really thrill me), decals, a Bell hard hat, and especially the old BSP's (Bell System Practices) and other technical docs. Soooooo.... if any of you happen to come across Bell System/Western Electric/phone stuff in your travels to recover computer hardware, I would appreciate at least knowing about it. There may be something I want! ;-) Conversely, if someone comes across, say, a Bell dataset or something else that you need details on, let me know. I may have the BSP that covers it. I can scan it and turn it into a .PDF if need be. Thanks much, keep the peace(es), and have a terrific holiday. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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New Find: Sanyo Navigator - has crt problems

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > One problem with this unit - the crt has a collapsed display - all the > video > > This is various called 'vertical collapse', 'frame collapse' and 'field > collapse'. This might give you some keywords to search for. Great. > > signal is shown one pixel tall. > > It is most likely a simple fix -- the vertical section of most TVs and > monitors is the simplest part of the set. I am assuming this is a > monochrome monitor. Yes. Monochrome. The other "problem" with this unit is operator error - I got the manufacturer wrong. It's a Cannon model S31118, "Facsimile Transciever Unit". Thanks for the pointers, Tony. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Semicon storage

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: ClassCompList <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Semicon storage >On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Richard A. Cini wrote: > >> So, I realize that there's a problem here. I need to number the >> tubes and re-sort the chips. But, while I'm going throught this I >> wanted to get some ideas for "a better way." Does anyone use a formal >> inventory system? How do you track the tubes and chips? > >So unless you really worry about static, get one of those multi-drawer >storage cabinets that has like 10 rows of like 8 little drawers each, >usually used to hold screws or whatnot. > >That way you can just label the front of each drawer with what IC it >holds. I've learned over 30 years that antistatic meaures even for TTL is a good idea. However it was about 18 years ago it was proven to me that mild ESD hits to even TTL degrades them. I line the bins with black foam or Al foil. Allison

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DEC VT-180 "Robin" system / finding a DEC VT-100

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Michael Passer <mwp(a)acm.org> >> I do it all the time. The VT180 card can be modded for standalone. >> It requires power, connectors and a simple source of reset. >> >> Allison > >Cool! I had no idea that's all that was drawn from the VT-100. Yes basically the VT100 is used for the terminal and power. >So the keyboard and display talk over the serial bus to the 180 >board as a terminal? No bus. There are 4 serial ports on the VT180 card, one for the VT100 as console and the other three as Printer, AUX and terminal. The terminal port allows setting it as a plalin terminal. >I always thought that the VT-180 board >took over the keyboard and display rather than using the VT-100 >as a terminal. Thank about that again, it does. However the Vt180 board allows for a pass through mode so you can still have a vanilla VT100. The VT180 only expects the terminal to respond to ESC[5n as that gives a status (vt100 selftest status) back. Fake the response and anything works. Allison

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Semicon storage

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I'm wrestling with a chip storage problem and wanted to get ideas from others as to how to store and track ICs in my "stock". Right now, I have ICs of various types stored in a mixture of anti-static tubes and black foam. Unfortunately, it's impossible to find any particular chip because most of them are mixed-up and the tubes aren't identified. So, I realize that there's a problem here. I need to number the tubes and re-sort the chips. But, while I'm going throught this I wanted to get some ideas for "a better way." Does anyone use a formal inventory system? How do you track the tubes and chips? Rich Rich Cini ClubWin! Group 1 Collector of Classic Computers Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /*****************************************/

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DEC VT-180 "Robin" system / finding a DEC VT-100

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Michael Passer <passerm(a)umkc.edu> >Unfortunately, a compatible won't work with the Robin upgrade; it consists >of boards that are installed in the VT-100 cabinet itself. > >--Mike I do it all the time. The VT180 card can be modded for standalone. It requires power, connectors and a simple source of reset. Allison

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PDP-11/34 questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 16, 1:00, Chuck McManis wrote: > At 08:08 AM 12/16/00 +0000, you wrote: > >You did remember to put the pack cover back in the drive, yes? > > After the first attempt, yes :-) The "latch" on the top isn't too springy > so I'm wondering if the safety isn't being released. I'm going to have to > look at that mechanism a bit more closely to find out. :-) I had one like that -- it took a lot of fiddling to get it right. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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more PDP 11/34 ramblings

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I wrote down the inventory of modules in the 11/34 and its pretty standard: CPU + FP11 128KW MOS Memory Programmers Console 9312 Boot/terminator RL02 interface SLU+Realtime clock interface DR11-C interface (DMA capable?) 9302 "far end" terminator. Unlike my first one this has sort of a bent screen unit above the programmers console rather than the black dress panel. (looks like it got impacted at some point). Further it has the FP11 but doesn't say PDP 11/34a on the front as the older ones used to, presumably this became "standard" at some point. I of course will take a functional CPU over a "pretty" box any time :-) All in all a very nice box. --Chuck

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