- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by optimus＠canit.se

I was recently rummaging through a MicroVAX II GPX, and found the card cage, as well as the convenient HD trays. I proceeded, out of curiosity, to remove the RZ55 and what seemed like a SCSI card as well as some other card mounted above the aforementioned card, connected to the tape drive. After a while, I decided to plug it all in again, but the VAX didn't seem to agree with my engineering principles. When I had chosen language, I reached the PROM prompt. It seemed to take a long time at the "6..." before the prompt, though. I know nothing about the VAX prompt, but I know that "b" or "boot" has caused it to boot before, so I did thus: >>b 2... ?4F SCBINT, XQA0 ?06 HLT INST PC=00000EE6 Fel. What could have caused this? Have I inserted the QBUS card incorrectly? Or does the SCSI (Is it SCSI at all?) cable have t0o be inserted in any particular way into the drive? This is rather alarming, I don't wish to have inadvertently destroyed a fine VAX. =/ -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Vi m?ste vara r?dda om varandra - det ?r v?rt enda reciproka pronomen.

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[OT] SCSI termination trouble?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 9, 9:45, Richard Erlacher wrote: > The boot drive normally IS at ID=0, however. That's a real convention > throughout the SCSI usage. I don't recall ever seeing a system that would > boot, say, from ID=4. Most PC's will promote the ID=1 device to the boot > rank, but not if ID=0 is present but manlfunctioning. YMMV, of course. Not so. That's a PC convention. Suns, SGIs and HP workstations will happily boot from ID 4 or other IDs, in fact it's necessary if you want to boot from a tape or CD-ROM. Most Suns and SGIs default to booting from ID 1. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 4 months

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[OT] SCSI termination trouble?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 9, 1:07, Chuck McManis wrote: > > >No ID is "reserved". The controller can have any ID, though generaly it's > >7. > > True, unless its a VAX 4000/VLC in which case its ID 6. :-) Or an SGI, or some Suns, in which case the controller is ID 0 :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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[OT] SCSI termination trouble?

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

This is definitely Off-Topic -- however, I'm absolutely baffled by this and I'm sure there's a SCSI expert out there somewhere. Like I said, the Seagate in my Power Mac 7300 overheated and is now making unpleasant grinding noises instead of booting. I got the old Quantum Fireball I used before out of the stock closet and plugged that in to try to boot back up again. However, the 7300 won't see any HD's I plug in. I tried it on the SCSI bus with just the hard drive by itself and no other devices, and it still doesn't see it. But if I hook the CD-ROM up (by itself or even with the HDs), it does see that -- but no HD. I'm sure it's not the cable (I've tried two and same results). I thought it might be a termination problem, but when I take the drive over to the IIci and plug it in, it mounts it fine. Obviously doesn't boot too well off MacOS 8.6, but if I boot the IIci off floppy and have it look at the hard drive, it does see all the files. No changes to jumpers. And, like on the 7300, the HD was the only drive except for the floppy on the ci's SCSI when I tested it. What gives? Is something fried on the 7300? Or am I missing some elementary rule about SCSI termination? The HD is a Quantum Fireball and its termination jumper is on, ID 0 (the CD-ROM is ID 4). Advice appreciated, flames borne with sheepish dignity. Sorry about the OT, but just to make this mildly on-topic, I did type this on the C128! :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- "I don't think so," said Descartes, and he vanished. -----------------------

25 years, 4 months

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[OT] SCSI termination trouble?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >The boot drive normally IS at ID=0, however. That's a real convention >throughout the SCSI usage. I don't recall ever seeing a system that would >boot, say, from ID=4. Most PC's will promote the ID=1 device to the boot >rank, but not if ID=0 is present but manlfunctioning. YMMV, of course. >Dick On a vax it can be any device and does not have to be the first. Typically device 6 or 7 is reserved to the host other than that anything goes. Mine boots DUA3 {3} on the MVII and DKA500 {5} on the 3100m76 and the 3100M10e it can be DKBnnn {100,200,300 or 400} as that one has different bootable version on each disk. Allison

25 years, 4 months

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Amiga development (was: uVAX II Memory Board)

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, On 04 Feb 01 Iggy Drougge wrote: > Bill Pechter skrev: > > >A friend of mine worked on the port of AT&T SVR4 to the Amiga. > >It sold (I think) at the University of Virginia as the official student > >workstation of the Engineering School. > > >I've never used an Amiga, but I'd love to get my hands on one of those > >Amigas with Unix on it. > > I'd love to get my hands on AMIX, Amiga SVR4, but it was only distributed on > tape, AFAIK, and the only time I've seen it was on eBay at a rather > exaggerated price, IIRC. Of course it's possible to copy the files from the distribution tape to a more reliable medium. I did this, I think they totalled 70MB or so when compressed. On that subject: Since I have no way to run AMIX, I have no way of knowing whether the backup technique I used -- simply copying all 19 or so files from the tape to disk using a tape handler on the Amiga -- worked successfully. Does anyone on the list have the capability to install and use AMIX from tape? I could upload the files, then perhaps they could check whether a fresh tape can be built from them. To actually install Amiga UNIX requires a Commodore A2091 or A3000 SCSI controller. Apparently someone made patches to allow AMIX to be used with GVP controllers, but I have never seen them. (I would really like to get hold of that, since maybe it will be possible to install AMIX on my A2000 then. But you probably have to install AMIX before being able to incorporate the patches...) -- Mark

25 years, 5 months

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Honeywell, Varian, and Teletype manuals for sale

by jdarren＠ala.net

All of the books are for sale as a single lot. I'll accept the best offer. honeywell --------- 1. HONEYWELL DAP-16 MANUAL FOR THE DDP-116, DDP-416, AND DDP-516 GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTERS 8-1/2" X 11" 1966 REPRODUCTION 2. HONEYWELL DDP-516 GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER DRAWINGS, VOLUME III 8-1/2" X 14" 1969 REPRODUCTION 3. HONEYWELL DDP-516 GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER DRAWINGS, VOLUME III 11" X 17" 1975 REPRODUCTION 4. HONEYWELL DDP-516 GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER DRAWINGS, VOLUME III 11" X 14" 1973 ORIGINAL 5. HONEYWELL DDP-516 GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER DRAWINGS, VOLUME III (2 COPIES) 11" X 17" 1975 ORIGINAL 6. HONEYWELL H316 GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL COMPUTER INSTRUCTIONS AND LOGIC DIAGRAMS 11" X 14" 1973 ORIGINAL 7. HONEYWELL INTEGRATED CIRCUITS REFERENCE MANUAL 3-3/4" X 6-1/2" 1975 ORIGINAL 8. HONEYWELL MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR TYPE 5010 PAPER TAPE READER OPTION 8-1/2" X 11" 1975 ORIGINAL 9. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 BASIC I/O DEVICES PROGRAMMING MANUAL 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 10. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR LINE PRINTER CONTROL OPTION MODEL 5500 8-1/2" X 11" 1973 ORIGINAL 11. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MODELS 516-25 AND 416-25 PRIORITY INTERRUPT, MODELS 516-25 AND 416-25 MEMORY INCREMENT OPTIONS 8-1/2" X 11" 1969 ORIGINAL 12. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 INSTRUCTION/INTERFACE MANUAL FOR INKTRONIC PRINTER, PARALLEL VERSION 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 13. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 PROGRAMMERS REFERENCE MANUAL FOR H316/DDP-516 CARD READER OPTION, MODEL 316/516-5100 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 14. HONEYWELL SERIES 16 PROGRAMMING MANUAL FOR TYPE 5500 LINE PRINTER OPTION 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 15. HONEYWELL SYSTEM 700 OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR TYPES 4780, 4781, AND 4791 MOVING HEAD DISK CONTROL OPTIONS 8-1/2" X 11" 1975 ORIGINAL 16. HONEYWELL SYSTEM 700 PROGRAMMERS REFERENCE MANUAL (2 COPIES) 8-1/2" X 11" 1976 REPRODUCTION 17. HONEYWELL TYPE 716 GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL COMPUTER INSTRUCTIONS AND LOGIC DIAGRAMS 11" X 17" 1975 ORIGINAL 18. HONEYWELL TYPE 716 GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL COMPUTER INSTRUCTIONS AND LOGIC DIAGRAMS (3 COPIES) 11" X 17" 1975 ORIGINAL 19. HONEYWELL TYPE 716 GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL COMPUTER INSTRUCTIONS AND LOGIC DIAGRAMS (2 COPIES) 11" X 17" 1975 REPRODUCTION 20. HONEYWELL SYSTEM 700 MAINTENANCE FOR TYPE 9070 DMA BUFFER BOARD OPTION 8-1/2" X 11" 1973 ORIGINAL 21. HONEYWELL MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR 716 TO 716 ICCU OPTION 3100 8-1/2" X 11" 1975 ORIGINAL 22. HONEYWELL OPERATION/MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR 122/222A PRINTER 8-1/2" X 11" 1971 ORIGINAL 23. HONEYWELL PROGRAMMING AND MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR H716 VERSATEC MATRIX PRINTER 8-1/2" X 11" 1978 REPRODUCTION 24. HONEYWELL MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR TYPE 9070 DMA BUFFER BOARD 8-1/2" X 11" 1973 ORIGINAL 25. HONEYWELL PROGRAMMING AND MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR H716 TO DDP-516 DMA-I/O BUS ADAPTER 8-1/2" X 11" 1978 REPRODUCTION teletype -------- 26. TELETYPE INKTRONIC PAGE PRINTER RECEIVE-ONLY TECHNICAL MANUAL (2 COPIES) 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 27. TELETYPE PARTS MANUAL FOR INKTRONIC PAGE PRINTER 8-1/2" X 11" 1970 ORIGINAL 28. TELETYPE PARTS MANUAL FOR INKTRONIC PRINTER SET RO & KSR 8-1/2" X 11" 1971 ORIGINAL varian ------ 29. VARIAN 620-100 COMPUTER HANDBOOK 5-1/4" X 8" 1972 ORIGINAL 30. VARIAN 620/L-100 MAINTENANCE MANUAL 8-1/2" X 11" 1973 REPRODUCTION

25 years, 5 months

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Toshiba Sat. Pro 420CDT Help needed

by jpl15＠panix.com

'Allo List - My trusty Toshiba laptop has fallen victim to the ravages of Indian Mains Chaos. It was plugged in charging over night at a hotel; the line voltage must have gone up near 300. The next day, I noticed it running on batt though plugged in, and when I re-seated the mains plug the laptop made one of those expensive little 'pop!' noises. We've removed the internal SMPSU and tried to fix it, but it's tiny and full of SMDs and I have no schematic. Some of the SMD resistors were actually blown off the board.. If I understand the unit, it puts out 12VDC. Ihave connected an external 12V supply to the leads, but no joy yet. Until it ran down, the machine worked fine on the battery., including after removal of the SMPSU and re-assembly of the case.. Now, with 12V on the SMPSU wires, the 'mains plug' icon LED flashes "one long - two short - one long - off one long period" The unit will not power up in this mode. If anyone has any direct Toshiba info: I would like - What this code means. What the actual internal PS voltage output/current is. What the battery connections/voltages are (for ext charging} If/Where a service manual is available for the laptop If anyone has a 420CDT junker they'd like to sell. All I want is the main board and power supply. Also the battery would be nice for a spare. I have located a source for the SMPSU and mobo and batteries, but with shipping and %65 import duty... I'd rather not if I can avoid it. I would also like the orginal user/operation manual (w/setup disks?), if anyone has one they'd like to jettison. Of course I'll pay for packing/shipping. This is kinda urgent.. we've been messing around with the PSU for a week or two now... and I need my laptop back.. :( sigh. I know it's probably new laptop time, but this one does just what I want it to do... and is all set up. Plus here in India, Laptops are twice what they are elsewhere. I have to fly to Singapore or Hong Kong, buy one, then try and convince the Kustoms Aggents that yes, I did have it with me when I left the country. fuhgeddiboutit! Hopefully... John

25 years, 5 months

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Question for the HPUX guys

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Hey gang, I recently changed companies and went from a NT environment to a UNIX shop. While I have decent skills in UNIX, some additional experience certainly wouldn't hurt. So... In order to reinforce my professional standing by learning more UNIX, and to entertain my collecting hobby by doing it on an older system, I drug out one of my old HP 9000/832s and fired it up. The system is curently running HPUX 8.0 Before I screw up anything (which is inevitable), I really need to make a recovery tape. Question: How can I make a COMPLETE backup of the system? Ideally, I'd like to make a bootable tape using my 9-track and then copy EVERYTHING on to additional tapes. The system does have a built-in DAT drive but the 9-track is soooo much more dependable. I've got plenty of hardware so, another possibility would be to create a second bootable disk(s) and copy the files from set of disks to the other. Once again, I'm not entirely sure how to do that. I do have the 10.20 distribution CDs so, even in the event of a serious crash, I could install a new OS. However, I would loose all the other applications that are currently installed. Also... I'm having trouble creating a kernel with networking installed. After being around for a few years, the config files are probably hosed and I don't have enough C programming skills to fix them. So... Does anyone have a copy of the original install media for HPUX 8.0 they'd be willing to part with? Thanks, Steve Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 5 months

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Quest for Apple II Red Book

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

/mpm <celt(a)chisp.net> writes: > The Red Book was an "internal" document, (at the time) available only > to Apple engineers and a few select dealers. IIRC, it was written by > Woz as a reference for Apple's engineering dept. Someone (Dr. Tom of > comp.sys.apple2 fame (or infamy, depending on your POV)) recently > scanned the entire thing and posted it on his website. If you're > interested, I'll see if I can dig up the URL and post it here. There was a "user manual" for the Apple ][ published in January 1978. It was 8.5x11, had a red cover, and was shipped with every Apple ][ until the newer manuals appeared. This was referred to as the "Red Book". It was in no way an "internal document". There may well have been some *other* document called a Red Book, but I don't think that's what this thread is about.

25 years, 5 months

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Sam on HP-UX and 8.0 backup update

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Actually, I haven't had any bad experiences with SAM on HP-UX 8 , yet. It doesn't do as much as the 10.20 version but, for routine tasks it seems to work OK. It's certainly MUCH faster than 10.20 version on the same hardware. UPDATE: I tried to do a ODE -> backup, using my 10.20 IPR disk but was not successful. I tried to backup to tape (DAT and Reel) and tried to copy to another set of disks. Each time, the system reported that there wasn't enough memory to perform the operation. Bummer :-( Currently, the machine has 32MB of memory. I assume this should be plenty? Once or twice, I've had an unexpected failure on that box and had assumed that I was screwing something up. Maybe I've just got a bad memory card. This weekend, I'll try swapping cards between the two 832's and see if I can find the problem. Is there a HPUX or ODE utility for testing memory? I've got a bunch of spare memory modules that I canabalized from another system. Most are 8MB although I do have some other sizes as well. What are the rules for installing memory? Can the memory go in any of the slots? Can I mix 4MB and 8MB cards? Thanks for the help, Steve >From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Sam on HP-UX. Ugh >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:13:06 -0500 (EST) > > > Bill Pechter wrote: > > > > > I know Sam was in HP-UX8... I think it may have even been in 7.x. > > > > SAM on 8 is evil! Every time I run it, and do anything relating to >filesystems, it locks the entire box. Run screaming! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 5 months

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Osbourne computer question

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

What was the first model Osboune computer that was manufactured? I picked up two Osbournes today, one is a model OCC-1 but the other doesn't have a model number. It just says Osbourne 1 on the side of the case. The O-1 has a permanently attached power cord instead of a detachable one and there's no door over the compartment were the power cord attaches. The compartment is also much shallower on the O-1. Joe

25 years, 5 months

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Stuff available in Arnhem, The Netherlands

by itq＠hetnet.nl

Friends, A number of items requires a new home: The following stuff belongs to a charity and it would be nice if they got something for it - Brother WP-1 Text processing system in working condition. Screen, single floppy drive and printer all in one. - Toshiba 5 1/4" external floppy disk drive Model PA 7225E. The external 18V DC 0.6A power supply is missing. Available free - Qume daisywheel printer from Decmate III system with spare wheels and ink ribbons. - Wang system unit PC-S5-3 with the following cards: PM101 IBM Mono Emulation PM029 Winch.CNTR-2 The unit has a 5 1/4" floppy and a hard disk - Wang display Mon-1240 from another system - RSX11M manuals Version 4.1 Wim

25 years, 5 months

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RGB-VGA Converter -- buy or build?

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello.... I have a video card that outputs RGB, but I have no RGB monitor... Not knowing anything about video standards, I ask the following :-) - How hard would it be to build an RGB-to-VGA converter to use my computer's VGA monitor (well, actually capable of 1024x768 non-interlaced)? Does anyone have schematics, or documentation to guide me along? - Would it be easier to convert RGB to composite video? I have several devices that can take composite input.... - Has anyone bought a reasonably cheap (sub-$100 US) RGB-to-VGA converter unit, and been happy with it? If so, where did you get it from? Thanks! Rich B. P.S. I subscribe to the digest, so I cannot reply directly....

25 years, 5 months

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Quest for Apple II Red Book

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hi: I have through page 74 of the book from Turley. The last time I checked, that's all that he scanned. He no longer has links to the file archive. If you have a link to his "Driveway.com" account, I'd appreciate it. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: /mpm [mailto:celt@chisp.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:03 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Quest for Apple II Red Book Richard A. Cini wrote: > Hello, all: > > I want to begin my quest for a copy of the Apple II "Red Book." > > If anyone has a copy and can tell me if it has an ISBN number on it, and > what that number is, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. > > Rich > > Rich Cini > ClubWin! Group 1 > Collector of Classic Computers > Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > /*****************************************/ The Red Book was an "internal" document, (at the time) available only to Apple engineers and a few select dealers. IIRC, it was written by Woz as a reference for Apple's engineering dept. Someone (Dr. Tom of comp.sys.apple2 fame (or infamy, depending on your POV)) recently scanned the entire thing and posted it on his website. If you're interested, I'll see if I can dig up the URL and post it here. /mpm

25 years, 5 months

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Need help with Grid 386

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I just picked up a Grid 386 laptop (model 1530) and it has a strange problem. It powers up but dies after a few minutes. It just starts acting flaky and locks up. If you turn it off and back on, the screen stays blank and it beeps but that's all. I have to let it sit for 1/2 hour or so before it works again. It passes all diagnostics before it crashes. I've opened it up and reseated all the removeable ICs. I also checked for overheating but nothing is even getting warm. Does anyone have a copy of the errors that go with the beep code? It has 2 Mb of RAM (8 SIPPs) in it. Which ones are in bank 0 and which ones are in bank 1? This laptop came out of Martin Marietta and has some really cool software on it. It was used to test the gimbal system used for the IR night vision and laser targetting system on the Apache helicopter. The laptop was connected to the gimbal and would read out all the steering commands and the actual positions from the synchro resolvers. This device was a lot more usefull than you would first imagine since cables and connectors that were routed through the gimbal were very prone to intermitant failures and this could be used to pinpoint at exactly what angles the problem occurred. Joe

25 years, 5 months

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Places to go in South Carolina?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm getting ready to head out to South Carolina and am wondering if anyone knows of any good places to check out in South Carolina for DEC, Sun, or SGI related gear? For DEC stuff I'm interested in all ages, for Sun S-Bus or newer, and for SGI stuff pretty new. Of course since I'm flying out there I won't have room for anything big (of course unfortuantly what I'm really looking for Sun wise is a nice monitor, which I wouldn't want to have to ship). Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

25 years, 5 months

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Need help with Grid 386

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> This laptop came out of Martin Marietta and has some really cool software on it. It was used to test the gimbal system used for the IR night vision and laser targetting system on the Apache helicopter. It'll come in handy when you get that turrent mounted on your truck :-) Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 5 months

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Commodore 900

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1211797980 It breaks my heart -- there is no way I, as a poor med student, can buy this Commodore 900 UNIX server, but if someone out there wants to and would be willing to let me look at one in the flesh ... :-) For information on what one is, see http://www.retrobits.com/ckb/secret/900.html -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- To generalize is to be an idiot. -- William Blake --------------------------

25 years, 5 months

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Looking for book "VMS File System Internals"

by vaxman＠qwest.net

Trade straight across for "Computer Engineering: A DEC View of Hardware Systems Design" or ???? clint

25 years, 5 months

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Sun 4/470 CPU/MEM needed

by tonyt＠igateway.net

I have 2 complete sparcserver 470s, with all the highend components. Tony

25 years, 5 months

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simple question

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Can anyone tell me where pin one of the DALLAS real time clock module should point when installed on a 4000/60 main board ? This is the leading culprit in my dead 4000/60 but I'm not sure I recall how to place it back, and while it seems like the socket indicates one way, its not clear that is the correct way. Thanks, --Chuck

25 years, 5 months

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IBM PC needs new home

by vcf＠siconic.com

Someday, IBM PC's will be worth big bucks. Just not tomorrow, or even next week. This one comes with a lot of collateral material that will put it above others of its ilk in future years. Please reply to original sender. Reply-to: petesam(a)worldnet.att.net Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:17:30 -0500 From: Pete Sammis <petesam(a)worldnet.att.net> To: sellam(a)vintage.org Subject: Old computer stuff I have an old IBM purchased in 1983. I have the original sales receipt (it cost $4000.00) , also all the IBM instruction guides that came with it, a VisiCorp personal Software guide, Friendly Ware PC Introductory Set, assorted used diskettes, and a diskette and instruction book for Master Type program by Lightning Software. I also have a printer purchased at the same time, and a monochrome monitor.

25 years, 5 months

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FYI: BYTE Magazine Issue #1 -- EXTREMELY RARE $175.00!!!!!

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I just noticed this on E-bay. The highest bid was $175 and it did not meet the reserve!!!! Joe

25 years, 5 months

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Question for the HPUX guys

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>From: Paul Thompson <thompson(a)mail.athenet.net> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Question for the HPUX guys >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:10:58 -0600 (CST) > > >Here is more information on the copyutil from the HP web site. >I got the impression from a different article that it only works on the 8xx >servers, but not on the 7xx workstations. You should be OK on your 832's. >Problem Description > >How do I use copyutil to create an image of my disk on tape? > <snip> Very Cool...Thanks much Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 5 months

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Question for the HPUX guys

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>For the original poster, if you're trying to improve your skills on HP-UX >you're best off running the same version you're running at work. HP seems >to like to make fairly major changes between versions. I suppose almost any flavor of UNIX would be OK for improving one's skills and if that were the only goal, I'd probably just fire up one of my Linux boxes. I guess I could use an old 386/Linux box and fulfill my classic collecting urges at the same time... Naw... A big ol honkin 9000 with 3 racks full of disks and twin 9-track tape drives is a whole lot cooler... Shame I live in South Florida, I'm sure you guys that live in more northern climates could use the extra heat I'm generating :-) See Ya, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 5 months

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Question for the HPUX guys

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>There is a ODE (offline diagnostic env) program called COPYUTIL I'm not familiar with COPYUTIL and don't recall seeing in on the 10.20 CD. I'll have another look. I've already made a TAR of the entire file system onto tape so, it should be possible to recover almost any files that might get hosed. Of course in order to UN-TAR those files, the system has got to be up and running. Unfortunately, HPUX does not support IGNITE and from what I can tell, the 8.0 version of SAM won't allow me to create a bootable disk. I have searched docs.hp.com and there's lots of info for 10.20 and 11.00 but, nothing that goes back to 8.0. OK... Here's another possibility... What if I make a bootable disk using IGNITE 10.20 (I have a second 832 running 10.20), mount the disk, and then UN-TAR everything from tape on to that disk? NOTE: The biggest reason for not upgrading to 10.20 is that I don't have the ANSI C compiler for 10.20. There's plenty of downloadable software available but, virtually none of it will run without compiling first. It's a real catch-22 situation. You gotta have the C compiler in order to compile a C compiler like GCC. If I'm not mistaken, HP lists the compiler for $1595. I do have the ANSI C compiler for 8.0 so, it's a lot easier to get software to run on that box. Anyone know of an alternate source for the compiler? Thanks Steve, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Question for the HPUX guys

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>From: Bob Brown <bbrown(a)harper.cc.il.us> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Question for the HPUX guys >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:58:21 -0600 > >You CAN get gnu-CC on hpux without a compiler..look at hpux public domain >sites for the downloadable depot. > >Should be easy to install on 10.20 w/swinstall. I've used swinstall to install a few of the binaries from those archives but, can't get ANY of them to run. I don't recall the exact error message(s) but, it appears to be a hardware compatability issue. Perhaps, I'll take another look at that option. Thanks, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Searching for PS/2-E (9533-DB7) reference diskette

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I know it's not _quite_ 10 years old, but it's getting there. The principle of attraction has worked and my IBM quad-PCMCIA card has attracted a couple of hosts - a PS/2-E that it originally came out of. I have been to the IBM support site - no concrete references to the PS-2/E. I have located reference diskettes for all sorts of IBM-brand products, but not the 9533. It's distinguishing features include a low-power design with one ISA slot for this quad-PCMCIA card to minimize peripheral draw. Additionally, it uses a 2.5" laptop disk (120Mb) and only has one serial port. As shipped from IBM, there was an LCD panel for a monitor, but I've never seen that part in person, only in old ads. Does anyone have a disk image they can ship me, or a pointer to an image somewhere? I'm thinking of turning this into a router box. I have the PCMCIA NICs to do it with. Thanks, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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HP41 data barcode

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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OT: FC AL termination question

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. Sorry for the off-topic message, but this gang is about the most concentrated body of technical knowledge that I know of. Does anyone here know what a DB-9 FCAL terminator consists of? -Dave McGuire PS - Actually I guess that'd be a DA-9..

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More book dealers...

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

I saw the post on Abebooks, and thought I'd chime in :-) They're great, but I now use Bibliofind (www.bibliofind.com). To me, they have a more extensive network of dealers. I've had nothing but good deals >from them!! I have no stake in either site, just a happy customer ... Rich B.

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Dayton Hamvention?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I had meant to put this up earlier this month, but better late than never. Is anyone here planning on being at the Dayton Hamvention? It is this weekend (I'll be there Friday at 08:00 if I can help it). If yes, please write me off-line and maybe we can make arrangements to have a classiccmp get-together. My memories of this question from last year was a collective and deafening "No". -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Just a test, please ignore

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Having trouble posting messages. Just wanted to see if it is working. Steve Robertson <steven_j_robertson(a)hotmail.com> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Good Used Computer Book source:

by jpl15＠panix.com

I beg to bring to the Attention of the Collectors herein (and the Lurkers also) that another very good URL for used and rare tech books is: www.abebooks.com However I specifcally disclaim and inure myself against anyone exhausting their rent and/or retirement money while using that site. Cheerz John

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Another Apple II clone found (Microcom) for trade/giveaway

by claudew＠videotron.ca

I picked this up a few weeks back. Apple II clone. Microcom logo on case. Microcom tags on Eproms.Boots with "Microcom" on screen. Fine shape, can send photos. Even got a Microcom "branded" floppy that goes with it. Floppy has paper tag with Microcom written on it and serial no. All working. Because of space limitations I have to limit myself to what I collect. I have decided to not collect Apple II clones (just collecting those clones would take up quite a bit of space) Up for trade/giveaway ASAP. Would like it to go to a good home where it will be appreciated... don't want $.I collect 197x-198x micros 8-16 bits. Something to add to my collection in exchange would be appreciated. See what I have and my wish list at : http://computer_collector.tripod.com Looking for early Z80-CP/M systems, early trs80 models, Apple III, Next, Lisa (arent we all), Sinclairs other then 1000s... I have lots more to trade...I dont sell - just trade with other collectors. email me if interested. Claude Canuk Computer Collector

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Amiga Unix (was: Amiga development)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Is it a definite that AMIX would be on tape? I seem to remember seeing it at a local Commodore/Amiga place, thought it was foppies though.. If anyone cares, I can go look.. I'm sure it would still be there, as the guy who runs it actually appreciates history and won't sell anything he has only one of... But he does make copies hehe Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Control Data 110 Find

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well I also went over to the warehouse here and got 2 Control Data 110 microcomputers with lots of software (8" disk) and manuals. The guy could not find the drive for them or keyboards. The other guys here got there first so it was not much left that I needed. Also got a large number of different manuals, HP probe parts, handheld terminals, a Mac 180c for parts, Omnibook parts, Sega game gear items, 5 Tandon 8" drives (4 in the box), Mac 6214CD for parts, and other small items. The guy's prices are very low. He has to clean out a 7000 sq ft warehouse full of stuff. I will be going back one more time this week before closes it down and hauls everything to the yards. John Keys

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OT question: Military collectors?

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

Sorry, I haven't heard anything about that. But as far as I can guess, they probably got rid of it a long time ago. My guess is that we now use something similar to that, only it's all digital now. I can say this because the Navy likes to be as state of the art as humanly possible. >David, > >Someone once told me about a huge, gymnasium-sized analog battle >simulator >somewhere in Groton. It apparently used small replicas of >ships that were >attached to wires or something and moved around the >"ocean". The display >was a periscope that came up through the floor and >you practiced firing >away at the ships. > >Might you know if this is still in operation? ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. "Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82 ____________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Kaypro and Apple Docs and Disks

by donm＠cts.com

A friend, Milton Blackstone - milton(a)sciti.com - has a major pile of docs and disks (perhaps 500) for the subject machines. Please contact him directly if interested. - don

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uVAX II Memory Board

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) <vaxman(a)qwest.net> >Heh... I was pondering this morn (whilst making lasagne) about building >a RD52 replacement out of flash memory... I have previously looked at >emulation with a modern IDE hard drive, but gave it up as infeasible... If that was too hard, emulating the RD52 itself is worse. >Each track occupies 2^n bytes from a 128MB (or larger flash rom). > >The step-in (step-out) signal increments (decrements) a counter >that drives the upper address bits. You also need track 0000 indication so you can home to a known point. >After a suitable delay (can anyone say 555 timer) the seek complete >bit is set, and the bits are transmitted in serial fashion from a >fixed clock running at 5MHz (i think). It's serial but there are embedded clock and little bits of data like address marks, sync marks and data marks. The format looks a little like Sync HDLC with MFM or FM encoding added. If your recording it like a wav or image then expect to waste a few bits per "bit" stored. I'd shoot for 8:1. then there are things like INDEX and aligning data with it. >If write gate is asserted, the bits are latched, at written to the >flash 16 bits at a time, thus giving a write cycle time of 3.2 uS bytes are sent serial and the default is 8bits. >which should be fast enough. An improvement would be to cache the >write data in a small RAM (32Kx8 is smallest I know of), then write >the whole thing at once during a seek. The tricky part here is >maintaining synchronization with the controller, probably requiring >a PLL of some sort... Yep you need that too plus a lot more. Keep in mind the FDC (9224 on the RQDX3 is not fully compatable with RQDX1 ) runs at it's internal clock for writing and you keep up or loose data. Also data is sent at the physical sector level of single or groups of multiple sector transfers. >Alternately, the data could be de-MFM-ed, and stored just as data, >but this requires re-MFM-ing, and adding address/data marks as well. >It also breaks any diagnostic that wants to write long to force an >ECC error. Yep your starting to see how complex it is. Believe it or not running two FDCs back to back will work but the CPU intelligence needed on the emulator side will not be trivial. Really the simplest way out is an IDE or DRAM and a bus interface of some sort. Sure this means a new driver is needed and that has it's headaches. However from a hardware perspective the IDE is point blank simple with a Ramdisk being harder. What complicates the issue is when someone wants to run V7 or Rt11 and wants a standard driver to work. MSCP is common enough but requires a cpu to manage the protocal and the sticky problem of copyright/patents. I'd think the effort should start at the nuts and bolts level. IE: what widely used PDP-11 software driver do we have the most docs for and can modify easily. then build an IDE to match that. FYI: there is one that come to mind...TU58! The answer is yes it can be done but if you can't conceive of the difficulties you not likely to be able to make it work. For it to be useful for most everyone it would have to be simple enough to use (PCB and assembled) and reliable (means tested under all OSs and diags) or it would be a very expensive science fair project. Allison

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Jerome Fine wrote: > course if the Pentium had been around 10 years sooner, maybe DEC > would have made a better PDP-11. Oh good lord. That's a troll for flamage if I've ever read one. A good one though; I almost cut loose on you for it with about ten pages about why this is full of doodoo. ;) -Dave McGuire

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DEC CXA16 manual

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Does anyone have the technical manual on the CXA16, 16 port async multiplexor? I've got one that I would like to update the NetBSD driver so that it can talk to it, VMS talks to it just fine but NetBSD recognizes that it is there but can't seem to get either its baud rate set or get interrupts. Also NetBSD only works in DHV mode not DHU mode which would be preferable. --Chuck

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VMS Manuals Available

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Were these three-ring binders, or 8.5"x11" paperbacks? If there the newer >paperbacks they'd probably be of use to a lot of people on this list. I've >got a V6.1 Wall, it's nice :^) I have the V5 wall, I dumped the binders for smaller packaging so I could keep them. Even then it's over four feet of paper! >> boxed copy of Borland DBASE IV VAX/VMS 1.1 with TK50 & 9-Track media, and a > >Drool! Oh! and I even use that! >> workstations, one with just about every SCSI adapter I could identify, and a >> bunch of Pathworks misc. stuff, for OS/2, Windoze, Mac... I have pathworks V4.1 and V5 stuff. >Hmmm, do they have the Pathworks Mac doc's? I could use those! I use a >combo of it, a Ethertalk-to-localtalk converter and Samba to turn my VMS >server into a Printserver for my HP5MP. Cool. Allison

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DG CS/20 & CS/30 reply

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/3/2001 11:27:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, vcf(a)siconic.com writes: > Anyone ever heard of a Data General machine from the 70s with the model > designation CS-20 or CS-30 I have had a couple of these go through my hands about 10 years ago. I think they are late 70s or early 80s. IIRC they are a 16 bit systems with up to 128K or 512K of RAM. The C indicates Commercial and the S indicates Scientific so I think this is a multipurpose computer. I think they were a shrunk version of the Eclipse S/200 and the C/300 which were introduced in 1975. By shrunk I mean the circuit cards are about 8"X12" instead of the original Eclipse cards which are about 16" square. I think MOS memory only. About 1990 I sold one of the 512K cards for good money. The original full size Eclipses came with either core or MOS memory. I looked it up in my in my "Computer Review" of 1977 and they are not mentioned so I think they were manufactured after that. Paxton Portland, OR

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C64 question

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

If you are looking for C64 and 128 programs, contact me offlist. I bought a complete C128 system and it came with about 300 floppies. They are all labeled and I am sure they would all work, but since I'm an apple user, I never got a round tuit. You could borrow them and make copies/archive them all. -- david +-+- www.nothingtodo.org In a message dated 2/5/01 12:46:05 PM Central Standard Time, r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com and somebody else wrote: << >Okay, I picked up quite a haul for $20: Lucky Dog! :-) >Now the question is, where on earth will I find some key >programs -- mostly games (after all, games were its specialty!) >but I REALLY want a 6502 assembler like Merlin, and to find >connectors to fit the cartridge slot to hang some custom hardware >off of and develop driver code for. I'll be careful. :) www.cmdweb.com -- They are a commercial outfit that sells lots of Commodore software/hardware. >And if I find it somewhere on the 'net, how to get it into >the C64? Has anyone solved that one? >>

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Fwd: Naked Mini Broke

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Pointer about NASA computer and launch facilities http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/facilities/lps.htm http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/computers/Ch4-6.html http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/archives/sts-70/shutref/sts-av.html#sts- dps-gpc The computers are called the GPC's. I seem to remember that each shuttle carries a phone book sized volume of the known software bugs/limitations. Many of the problems would require software rewrite which would require recertification so they are left alone. One know bug was/is that the input consoles share a common keyboard buffer, if two persons type simultaneously then you end up with a mixture. There is an ACM article in September 1984 that covers the GPC computers. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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C64 question

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Okay, I picked up quite a haul for $20: Lucky Dog! :-) >Now the question is, where on earth will I find some key >programs -- mostly games (after all, games were its specialty!) >but I REALLY want a 6502 assembler like Merlin, and to find >connectors to fit the cartridge slot to hang some custom hardware >off of and develop driver code for. I'll be careful. :) www.cmdweb.com -- They are a commercial outfit that sells lots of Commodore software/hardware. >And if I find it somewhere on the 'net, how to get it into >the C64? Has anyone solved that one? Yup... There is a cable called an X1541 (there are also a dizzying array of variants) that connects from the PC Parallel port to the SERIAL input on the 1541 drive. There is also a piece of software called Star Commander that will perform the transfers ... See http://sta.c64.org/sc.html for much more information.... Rich B.

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transfer HD disk to DD

by itq＠hetnet.nl

Marlene, I can only read your mail when I answer it. I suppose you use a html format. I use Mail and find this format very annoying. Please use plain text in the future. I suppose your email is about floppy disk formats. I have copied DEC PDP-11 hard disks to DD files ( a sort of tape). Wim ---------- > Van: Miniminstrels(a)aol.com > Aan: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Onderwerp: transfer HD disk to DD > Datum: zondag 4 februari 2001 20:16 > Can you tell me hoe to copy a HD disk tp a DD disk so that I can use it in my PSR6000 ? Marlene.

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AppleTalk On NeXT Cube

by univac＠earthlink.net

I just got my NeXT Cube (Yeah!!!). It's running NeXTStep 3.3, and I am trying to connect it to my AppleTalk network, via LocalTalk or Ethernet. Could anyone help me? Thanks, Owen

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