- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

>From http://www.alyon.org/InfosTechniques/informatique/drives/digital/all/9312060 02.html RZ26L High Performance, Low Profile 1.05 GB Disk Drive HIGHLIGHTS o New SCSI disk offered in one-inch-high, 3.5 inch form factor o 15 percent price/performance improvement over RZ26 disk o Features new, five year warranty PRODUCT DESCRIPTION To meet the need for follow-on products in the same capacity range as Digital's RZ26 and RZ26B 1.05 Gbyte disk drives, Digital is introducing the RZ26L drive. This one-inch-high, low profile SCSI disk expands the performance and price/megabyte curves of the previous generation of Digital 3.5 inch disks. In addition, its state-of-the-art seek and access times and industry standard spindle speed make it Digital's highest performing 3.5 inch SCSI disk today. The banding technology used provides maximum transfer rates (in the 3.5 inch form factor) of up to 5.5 Mbytes per second. The RZ26L disk comes with a five year warranty (one year of onsite warranty and four years of extended, Return-to-Digital warranty), demonstrating Digital's higher quality standards and enhanced maintainability standards. (See the "Enhanced Storage Warranties Span Up to Five Years" article in this issue.) Note that the RZ26L drive is not a direct substitute for the RZ26 drive in all applications. The RZ26L drive cannot be placed in an existing RZ26 stripe and/or shadow set. However, a new stripe and/or shadow set can be created when all members are RZ26L disk drives. COMPARISON WITH DIGITAL'S OTHER 3.5 INCH DISK DRIVES RZ25L RZ26 RZ26L RZ28 Capacity (MBF) 535 1050 1050 2100 $/MB $1.89 $1.23 $1.05 $1.16 Height 1" 1.6" 1" 1.6" Average Seek Time (ms) 10.5 9.5 9.5 9.5 Average Access Time (ms) 16 15.1 15.1 15.1 RPM 5400 5400 5400 5400 Servo Type Ded Emb Emb Emb Maximum Transfer Rates from Media (Mbytes/sec) 2.9-5.2 3.3 2.7-5.5 2.7-5.5 Maximum Bus Bandwidth (MB) 10 10 10 10 Buffer Size (KB) 240 512 512 1024 AVAILABILITY AND ORDERING You can order the RZ26L drive today, with availability in 30 days or less. Order No. Description RZ26L Disk Drive: RZ26L-EJ 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for DEC 3000 Model 400, 400S, 500, 500S, 500X, 600, 600S, 800, and 800S systems; includes mounting hardware; factory or field installed RZ26L-EP 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for DEC 3000 Model 300 and 300L systems; includes mounting hardware; factory or field installed RZ26L-EK/EN 1.05 GB formatted SCSI disk for MicroVAX 3100 Model 30, 40, 80, and 90 systems; includes mounting hardware; field installed/factory installed RZ26L-VA 1.05 GB 3.5 inch disk for StorageWorks systems, mounted in single 3.5 inch storage building block with snap-in carrier (RZ26L-VA currently supported in BA350 and BA353 StorageWorks shelves on HSJ40 and HSC K.SCSI controllers, MicroVAX 3100, DEC 3000, DEC 7000, and DEC 10000 systems) 4A-RZ26L-VA Spare for all variations of RZ26L disk drive SOFTWARE SUPPORT The RZ26L drive is supported in OpenVMS VAX V6.0 and OpenVMS AXP V1.5. FUTURE SUPPORT Support for the RZ26L disk is planned for the VAXstation 4000 Models 60 and 90, for DEC 2000 AXP workstations, and for DEC 4000 AXP systems. Future software support is planned for the ULTRIX V4.4 and DEC OSF/1 V1.3 operating systems. SERVICES Digital is supporting the RZ26L drive with a complete range of services, including (but not limited to) onsite hardware service, telephone assistance, installation, and extended warranty programs. DECmailer unit exchange is available through the Customer Returns Center (800-225-5385). __________ OSF/1 is a registered trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Lovely period furniture: VAX 4000-500

by flo＠rdel.co.uk

I've just found a VAX 4000-500 sitting out in the rain at work with a scrap note attached, so I've relocated it to my house. I figure that if I carefully dry it out and remove all those funny bits of plastic and metal from inside, it'll make a lovely bedside cabinet. Heh heh.

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storage media

by Scott.Miller＠vandenberg.af.mil

I was thinking about the possibility of building a miniature C-64... you could probably squeeze the whole thing into an FPGA, but the VIC II and SID chips might be a problem. It'd probably be easier to use an off the shelf embedded controler and adapt the VICE emulator. A 2 or 3 inch color LCD would make a nice monitor, but fabricating the miniature keyboard could be difficult. You could always use a cheap membrane-style keyboard, I guess. How about a 1541 disk drive that takes smartmedia cards? Speaking of VICE, in a fit of boredom I set up an AlphaStation with VNC to launch remote C-64 emulation sessions, sort of a C-64 ASP. You just fire up your VNC client, point it at the server, and you get an emulated C-64 with a bunch of old game disks. I haven't had it running since I moved over the summer, but if anyone's interested I can fire it up and publish the address. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Megan [mailto:mbg@world.std.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:52 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: storage media >"IBM used to send out its salesmen with little 1/24 > models of their Mainframe installations to do site > planning on the desktop first before bringing in the > actual HW. With Moore's Law and the progress of > miniaturization, you could Build a system that big > now that actually works." > >Only with more power. Imagine putting together a little model of, say, the PDP-10 system on the back cover of one of the PDP-10 reference manuals, but build an imbedded x86 machine into the model, with one serial line... run linux on the the embedded machine and Timothy Stark's pdp-10 emulator running TOPS-10... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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IBM 6150

by Derek.Overton＠sanderson.co.uk

Has anyone experience of getting data off a 6150 using a SCT drive and loading onto Mvbase running on NT ? Derek

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pdp 11s to be auctioned at Goddard

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 21, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > For those in the Washington DC area, the 3/29 auction will include > several pdp 11s. Look at: > > http://sales.gsfc.nasa.gov/items.cgi?salenumber=80322620010016 > > I've never been to one of these (I keep wanting to but can never seem > to make the time), but I understand that stuff goes at scrap prices. I've been to several of these. While otherwise wonderful, these auctions have classic "government auction" problems. You'll see, for example, a lot consisting of three pallets of stuff...one will contain a Dynabyte or something like that with ZERO cash value but that you'd really love to get, and the rest of it will consist of 2.5 pallets of dead VGA monitors. During the auction you'll find some guy who bids the lot up to $3,000. Wondering why, you watch him loading it into his truck at the end of the day...and underneath the dead VGA monitors will be one HP 8566B spectrum analyzer or something like that, that he will have ALREADY SOLD on his cell phone for $20,000. The bottom line is this...these types of auctions are great and lots of fun, and people like us can get good stuff cheaply through them. But keep in mind that there are hardened, experienced professionals that show up for every one of these, and make a ton of money doing it. If you get in their way, you will be steamrolled...that's all there is to it. My intention is not to discourage anyone from going and trying...by all means, go! Just watch out for the guys I talk about above...you'll recognize them as soon as you see them start bidding. And if you do go to this one, and happen to see an overweight guy with big bushy brown hair, that's probably me. :) That said, I may try to make it out for that one. There are a few RK07 drives in one lot as well...I love RK07s! :-) -Dave McGuire

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10Base5/Thicknet (was Re: SUN networking problems)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 21, 22:31, Mike Ford wrote: > >Is there currently a source for the tap part for the older, boxy transceivers > >that have removable media bits? I remember reading in the O'Reilly Ethernet > >book that it was common to remove the transceiver from the tap and leave the > > Most likely I have it, no matter what that "it" is regarding older network > stuff. Email me directly with, hopefully, an idea of what exactly you need > and I will look in my boxes. > > What I think they are talking about with the tap etc. is that you have the > thick coax, then you have a thing that taps into the coax, and that "thing" > typically has a AUI 15 pin connection with a cable to the AUI on your > computer. Disconnecting the cable is what I think they mean. Not quite. The part with the 15-pin AUI connector is the trasnceiver. The tap is the part of the transceiver that fits to the coax. In some cases, the tap has sockets, and you fit it by cutting the coax, fitting plugs to both cut ends, and plugging them in to the tap. Thats' not very convenient when you want to connect to a network that's in use (the entire segment will be ou of action while you do it and there's a risk of damage to other transceivers as well), so tha alternative is a "vampire" tap. That's a gadget that you fit by drilling a hole in the outer insulation and braid (screen) of the coax, then applying the tap. It has a pn that penetrates to the core conductor, and a part that makes contact only with the braid. Then you fit the rest of the transceiver onto the vampire tap, and fit a drop cable between the AUI connector on the transceiver and the AUI on your machine. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Lovely period furniture: VAX 4000-500

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 21, Paul Williams wrote: > I've just found a VAX 4000-500 sitting out in the rain at work with a > scrap note attached, so I've relocated it to my house. I figure that if > I carefully dry it out and remove all those funny bits of plastic and > metal from inside, it'll make a lovely bedside cabinet. Heh heh. Good score! The 4000-500 is a *nice* machine. *drool* -Dave McGuire

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Speaking of 3380's

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Since everyone is talking about them, I'm going to ask that if anyone has manuals for them, or 3880 controllers, or a 4381 model group 21, that I could really really use them... And if anyone finds a 3380, 3880, or 4381 in a scrapyard or something, I need a full set of panels for each machine, i.e. 3 sets of panels total, I cannot run the system without the panels in place. I also need other miscellanous parts, such as hinges, etc. TIA, Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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classiccmp-digest V1 #547

by jruschme＠mac.com

>From: Tom Owad <owad(a)applefritter.com> >Subject: Re: VCF East > >>> I would ask for the New Jersey Expo Center in Raritan NJ to be considered. >>> It's right off the NJ Turnpike, the only road outsiders consider to >exist in >>> NJ anyways. >> >> Yeah, isn't that amazing? I grew up in NJ, and I go there from time >>to time. I rarely see NJ license plates on the Turnpike. Weird. >> >> I'd also like to see it happen somewhere toward the "middle" of the >>coast. While it's true that the southern states (at least NC, SC, and >>GA) are less densely populated than the Great New England Sprawl, >>there *is* life outside of Boston. >> >> If VCF East is reasonably accessible to the Washington DC area (and >>I'd say NJ counts) you can count on me and at least a half dozen of my >>friends to help out with all the setup stuff. And I'd plan to >>exhibit, as well. > >If its held in NJ/PA I could help out and exhibit, also. The Raritan >center is a nice location. Another NJ option might be the South Jersey Expo Center in Cherry Hill. It's about 30 minutes further south on the NJ Turnpike, but about as accessible (as well as being accessible to I295). Basically, it's over the river from Philadelphia as opposed to the Raritan Center which is basically over the river from NY. <<<John>>>

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pdp 11s to be auctioned at Goddard

by bills＠adrenaline.com

For those in the Washington DC area, the 3/29 auction will include several pdp 11s. Look at: http://sales.gsfc.nasa.gov/items.cgi?salenumber=80322620010016 I've never been to one of these (I keep wanting to but can never seem to make the time), but I understand that stuff goes at scrap prices.

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10Base5/Thicknet (was Re: SUN networking problems)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 21, 9:26, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Is there currently a source for the tap part for the older, boxy transceivers > that have removable media bits? I remember reading in the O'Reilly Ethernet > book that it was common to remove the transceiver from the tap and leave the > tap on the Etherhose, presumably to avoid damage and in case someone wanted > a computer at that location again in the future. Yes, it was fairly common. And I've seen "boxy transceivers" recently in some network suppliers catalogues (but in the UK, which might not help Ethan). And they were pretty expensive in the catalogues (rarity value, probably). FWIW, all the ones I've seen which used the removable type of tap, had the same fiting, so my BICC, 3Com, and Cabletron transceivers and taps are interchangable. I never had any vampire taps (hint: I want one for my display) but I wouldn't be surprised to find they were interchangable too. If you didn't know, there are two screws visible near the top of the transceiver; take those out (they're quite long as they go almost all the way through the body) and the tap part should come off quite easily. The screws don't screw into the tap, they go through holes in it and screw into the rear of the transceiver body; they are only there to stop the tap falling off (or in the case of cables of the floor, to stop the transceiver falling off the tap it's hanging from!). > I have a couple of the > (Cabletron?) units of the same model, one with a vampire tap and one with a > BNC for 10Base2. Worst case, I guess I could make some N-to-BNC thing and use > a 10Base2 transciever. Yes, that would work. Some of my taps have an N connector on each end, some have a sort of BNC T-piece, and some just have a single BNC (bring your own T). N-to-BNC adaptors are fairly common and cheap. > I keep fostering this fantasy of putting up a 10Base5 > segment for Histerical Raisins. I don't have an operational 10base5 segment at the moment, but I do have all the bits, and I do use some of the old transceivers (with BNC fittings or adaptors) and real thick blue drop cables for my Vax and '11s. If it wouldn't cost so much to ship, I'd trade some of my thick yellow cable for a vampire tap :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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NeXT '040 Cubes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 21, 10:07, MTPro(a)aol.com wrote: > << First, put a 50-ohm terminator on that connector, so the NeXT thinks it is connected to a live (but very small!) network. >> > > Is this something I can pick up at say Radio Shack? Does it looks kind of like a little metal cap that fits on the coaxial connector? Yes, it looks just like a BNC plug with either a metal or plastic cap. In fact, I have a couple that have been made by soldering a 1/4 watt 50-ohm resistor into an ordinary 50-ohm BNC plug (BNC connectors come in two types: those with a characteristic impedance of 50 ohms, used for test equipment, thin Ethernet, etc; and those with a characteristic impedance of 75 ohms, mostly used for TV and video signals). > "yp: server not responding for domain "sewp" ; still trying." > > This will just keep repeating, give a count as to trys, etc. Would a terminator stop this? Can I bypass it looking for a host? I don't think this is going to be solved by fitting a terminator, though it may help a little (by improving the timing!). What you need to do is find out what it's trying to do that it needs to find a NIS server. Most likely it's trying to look up a machine name, possibly to mount a remote filesystem. Now I haven't had my NeXT very long, so I'm not sure if the relevant files are quite the same as on the Unix systems I'm more familiar with, and it's not here to check. But I'd look at the file "/etc/resolv.conf" and see if there's a line that looks a bit like "hostresorder nis files" or "hostresorder nis local" -- if there is, change it to "hostresorder local bind" (or anything to remove the "nis"). That line tells the network software how to look up name-to-address mappings ("host resolution order"). the possible options are NIS (Network Information Service), "local" (a local file containing mappings, called "/etc/hosts"), and BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Daemon, which is what DNS servers use). Changing hostresorder will redirect the lookups, and the system may just stop trying. The real solution, though, is to prevent those lookups that aren't going to work. If the reason for the lookup is to mount a filesystem from a remote server's disk(s), the place to look (on a Unix system, at least) would be /etc/fstab. Remote filesystems are identifiable as type NFS or by having a server name and a colon ':' prefixing the filesystem name. Comment those out by prefixing the line with a hash symbol. > The other NeXT Cube is indeed a 25MHz 68040 logic board with 48mb of RAM and a 350mb hard drive. I have given it the command to boot from the hard drive "bsd -s" and it seems that it begins too by displaying "boot sd (0,0,0) -s", but then it has an exception error: > > "Exception #2 (0x8) at )x100b9dc" > > Is the hard drive bad? Is it just blank or in need of formatting? I appreciate all of the help. Possibly not. sd(0,0,0) may not be the correct partition to boot from -- what does the working one do? The numbers are the controller, drive ID, and partition (section) of the drive to load. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Tektronix 2213 Service Manual

by bob.renshaw＠dial.pipex.com

Hi, I am looking for a full service manual or the power supply diagrams for a Tektronix 2213 scope. Can anybody help? Regards Bob Renshaw UK

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Need Tandy 6000 Keyboard (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can someone help this guy out? There may be a Tandy 6000 in it down the road. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:20:53 -0500 From: Club 27 <thomas_disher(a)sympatico.ca> Subject: Need Tandy 6000 Keyboard Dear Museum founder: Have a Tandy 6000 HD system operating in Xenix. Have all the original 8 1/2" floppies for the OS, and for 'Scripsit' (Word Processing), and for 'Unify' (a RDMS) -- including all the Owners Manuals, and even the Technical Service Manual. However, I really need to keep this old mini-computer working for another 2 years before I pass it along to some collector or museum. I am prepared to make a deal (YOU can set the terms) with the individual who is directly instrumental in providing the assistance I need to keep my keyboard operational or who can assist me to acquire one or preferably two old keyboards for this unit. The problem is that the individual key contacts are failing, one after another. They are easily repaired/replaced -- but I have run out of the ability to switch the sound contact pads from the seldom used redundant keys to those that have failed. I am unable to find a source for these wee electrical contacts, and am looking to - beg, borrow or steal, or buy - a whole keyboard or two >from which I can pirate the needed parts. Can you help me, and/or redirect me ? What would be your terms ? Tom - at Club 27 --- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Unix filesystem checks

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

OK, calling all Unix people... See the other post on the status of the Tek Unix system - I got that going with another disk and it booted to single-user mode, complaining about filesystem errors. I ran fsck and it worked this time on the new disk (I vaguely remember before that it used to give up halfway with the old failing drive) Lots of errors, to which I just answered 'y' to each one (if that was the wrong thing to do then say - I still have an image of the old, corrupted drive). I now have a clean filesystem, and lots of stuff in /lost+found Any ideas what the next step is? Do I just have to look at the contents of files and directories in /lost+found (they're all numbered rather than named - by inode or something?) and try to figure out what everything in there is? (there's a lot of files there - I suppose I'm quite lucky the system even booted) That's going to be painful (and probably impossible for some of the data) - presumably the original filenames have been lost in the corruption? I'm only used to fsck on linux where it always seems to sort itself out - I've not had to rebuild a filesystem like this before! cheers Jules --

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pdp 11s to be auctioned at Goddard

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 21, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > > I've been to several of these. While otherwise wonderful, these > > auctions have classic "government auction" problems. You'll see, for > > example, a lot consisting of three pallets of stuff...one will contain > > a Dynabyte or something like that with ZERO cash value but that you'd > > really love to get, and the rest of it will consist of 2.5 pallets of > > dead VGA monitors. During the auction you'll find some guy who bids > > the lot up to $3,000. Wondering why, you watch him loading it into > > his truck at the end of the day...and underneath the dead VGA monitors > > will be one HP 8566B spectrum analyzer or something like that, that he > > will have ALREADY SOLD on his cell phone for $20,000. > > In your expirence, and using the above example, could you approach the guy > and make an offer for the Dynabyte or will he get pissy or greedy? That works sometimes...unless it's a big machine and the guy is planning on scrapping it for gold. I lost out on a gorgeous Convex C3800 supercomputer about two years ago that way. The $3000 I had in my pocket was less than the scrapper got for the gold in the machine. For smaller stuff, though, as long as they don't smell money, that approach does work. -Dave McGuire

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NeXT '040 Cubes

by MTPro＠aol.com

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier post, I have made some progress with the cubes. << Those are not 'original 1988 boxes'. The original 1988 NeXTcomputer had a 25 MHz 68030 board in the backplane. >> Sorry, I described them poorly. They are indeed original 1988 NeXT Cubes, this copyright date is on the cases. I assume that their original logic boards were replaced by NASA with the '040 boards. << First, put a 50-ohm terminator on that connector, so the NeXT thinks it is connected to a live (but very small!) network. >> Is this something I can pick up at say Radio Shack? Does it looks kind of like a little metal cap that fits on the coaxial connector? <<Then read the NeXT FAQ: http://www.peanuts.org/faq-serve/cache/66.html>> Excellent stuff here! << Here is the procedure for breaking the password: . . .>> Thanks Lawrence! It worked well. I can get into the NeXT ROM monitor on both. So . . with the Turbo, it is indeed a 33MHz 68040 logic board with 32mb of RAM and a 350mb hard drive. I have reset the root password and can start system services. The only problem I am facing now is that it gets to a place where it is looking for a NASA domain server: "yp: server not responding for domain "sewp" ; still trying." This will just keep repeating, give a count as to trys, etc. Would a terminator stop this? Can I bypass it looking for a host? The other NeXT Cube is indeed a 25MHz 68040 logic board with 48mb of RAM and a 350mb hard drive. I have given it the command to boot from the hard drive "bsd -s" and it seems that it begins too by displaying "boot sd (0,0,0) -s", but then it has an exception error: "Exception #2 (0x8) at )x100b9dc" Is the hard drive bad? Is it just blank or in need of formatting? I appreciate all of the help.

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Syracuse big iron

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/21/01 11:34:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, brian.roth(a)firstniagarabank.com writes: > I recall someone posted that he had seen some big VAX and IBM iron in a > Syracuse recycler yard. I live about two hours away and might be interested > in a rescue mission. > > Repost? > > > Brian. Ditto here.. I am 2 hrs away as well and would *love* to get another VAX (I have a 3100 now). -Linc.

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Syracuse big iron

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

I recall someone posted that he had seen some big VAX and IBM iron in a Syracuse recycler yard. I live about two hours away and might be interested in a rescue mission. Repost? Brian. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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VCF East

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 20 Mar 2001 6:29:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tony Eros <tony.eros(a)machm.org> writes: <<I'll second the NJ location since it's nice and close to me -- unless we could have it in my back yard... :-) -- Tony >> I'll third it.. NJ would be great! -Linc Fessenden

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Kerrvile TX pictures

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, Two members of the list have kindly offered to web-host the pictures I took this weekend. Goldarg has his site up: >I've put them up at http://gecko.myftp.org/ClassicCMP/ and they are listed >off of http://gecko.myftp.org as "Mark Tapley's pictures for the ClassicCMP >mailing list"' Dan Veeneman is working on putting them up at another site, details to follow. Thanks to both, and to everyone else, surf away! - Mark

25 years, 3 months

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Data General Nova stuff

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Did anyone else notice the approximately 2 dozen Data General Nova items that were just placed on eBay? It includes hardware, papertape software and manuals. Thought some of you Nova types might find it interesting if you hadn't seen the posts. Jeff

25 years, 3 months

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IBM P70 solution

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

It turns out that the IBM Bios on the Future Domain MCS700 SCSI board was conflicting with the ESDI controller built into the P70. The solution was simple...one of those things so simple you don't even consider until someone else points it out. I pulled the BIOS off of the SCSI card! I had initially tried disabling the BIOS in the system setup but that didn't work. Now that I've pulled the BIOS physically off the board, the conflicts have disappeared and I had both a CD-ROM and external 1gig SCSI hard disk running off of it's SCSI-2 connector in no time, using the IBM drivers for OS/2 and the Future Domain PowerSCSI 4 drivers under DOS. Too bad I lose the bootability doing this, but that's not an issue at the moment. Jeff

25 years, 3 months

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Mac SE30

by donm＠cts.com

I am trying to un-stuff a driver for the Stylewriter 1200 (the driver itself is actually for the 1500 color unit) but Stuffit 1.5.1 cannot handle the driver's .sit archive. This is being attempted on an SE30 under 7.0.1 OS. Unfortunately, I am not able to find anything on Aladdin that will update that 'early bird'. Can anyone offer any suggestions as to how to solve my dilemna? Thanks, - don

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SUN networking problems

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hi all, we're running a *small* network consisting of two Sun SPARCstations (1+ and 2) and a CalComp CCS600 ES laser printer. They're all connected to "Transceivers" with 15-pin Sub-D connectors on them which sit along a yellow cable (approx. 10mm = 4/10" in diameter). AFAIK this concept is called "Thick Ethernet" (IEEE 802.3), am I right? Now in an effort to connect our modern PC to this network as well, we've put another transceiver on the cable strictly according to the installation guide that came with it (drilling hole into cable with recommended tool etc...). Since we've done that, it's no longer possible to print from one of the SUNs to the CalComp although the PC is not yet connected to the transceiver. We couldn't test whether each SUN can see the other one as one of them is currently "down" (yes, the NVRAM's bad again...) The whole assembly looks somewhat like this: TermRes _______ _______ _________ _______ TermRes I-------I TC1 I------I TC2 I------I TC3 I------I TC4 I------I I I I I SUN 1+ SUN 2 CalComp (planned) PC TC1, 2 and 4 are from Intergraph, TC3 is a InterLan NV1000. Many thanks in advance for any help with that problem. Arno Kletzander -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.de

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Hp85a

by elecdata＠kcinter.net

Does anyone have info on an hp85a, I found one in excellent condition and works, but I lack paperwork and basic info. Thanks Bill elecdata1

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Ohio Scientific 4P & 3" Amstrad Diskettes

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi; I have a couple of items that I think the group might be interested in. First is a complete Ohio Scientific 4P computer with attached drive. I have had it for 11 years. Unfortunately it went through my house fire about 10 years ago. It suffered smoke damage because it was in a room several rooms away from the fire. It doesn't show any signs of heat damage. It has it's attached floppy disk drive but I would assume the drive would not work. The outside is pretty ugly from the smoke damage. I could provide photos is anyone is interested. I am offering it to the list first. Unfortunately I am not looking for trades. I am moving soon and need to sell for cash. Please contact me offline at Whoagiii(a)aol.com if interested and if you have questions. The other item I have is on eBay and is closing tonight. It is a box of 3" CF-2 Amsoft Amstrad diskettes, new and still sealed. It's URL is http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1222515348&r=0&t=0&s… Tutorial=0&ed=985162040&indexURL=0&rd=1 Thanks Paxton Portland, OR

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VCF East

by mbg＠world.std.com

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VCF East

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Oh great and mighty Sellam, have you considered the Worcester Centrum Centre, located in sunny Worcester, MA, about 1 hour from Boston, and 1 hour >from Providence, RI (straight shot down Rt. 146)?? http://www.centrumcentre.com/, or Worcester's Centrum Centre 50 Foster Street Worcester, MA 01608 Phone: 508.755.6800 Fax: 508.929.0111 I have NO affiliation with them, but it's about a 1/2 hour drive from my home, so I do have a somewhat vested interest :-) Worcester has all the usual big city amenities, and even it's own airport! Thanks! Rich B.

25 years, 3 months

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Northstar Advantage 8/16 problems

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Have you considered that perhaps the keyboard has gone bad? > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org Uhh... Yeah, but it's just a matrix of contacts, and not an "active" keyboard, IIRC. So if there's no parts to fail other than the keys, I find it hard to believe, though not impossible, that EVERY key died at the same time. Perhaps all on a row or all on a column, but not ALL keys. I figured if anyone knows what chips on the mainboard read or handle the keyboard, they could point me in the right direction for replacements, or things to test... Rich B. P.S. -- I get the digest, so I can't reply immediately...

25 years, 3 months

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"Adventure" using a laser disk player and a "PC"?

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, Does anyone remember an adventure-like game implmented using a computer (PC? Apple II?) and a laser disk player with a serial interface, and a laser disk of Rollerball? One of my co-workers thinks there was such a beast, and suggests I try to find it and get it running with the Sony Lasermax LDP-1550 I just got (assuming I can get a disk of Rollerball, of course :) thanks, Stan Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

25 years, 3 months

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VCF East

by mbg＠world.std.com

I second the worcester centrum, although I'm sure it would be too costly to rent, what with all the monster truck shows and such that they put on there... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

25 years, 3 months

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VCF East

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 20, Billy D'Augustine wrote: > I would ask for the New Jersey Expo Center in Raritan NJ to be considered. > It's right off the NJ Turnpike, the only road outsiders consider to exist in > NJ anyways. Yeah, isn't that amazing? I grew up in NJ, and I go there from time to time. I rarely see NJ license plates on the Turnpike. Weird. I'd also like to see it happen somewhere toward the "middle" of the coast. While it's true that the southern states (at least NC, SC, and GA) are less densely populated than the Great New England Sprawl, there *is* life outside of Boston. If VCF East is reasonably accessible to the Washington DC area (and I'd say NJ counts) you can count on me and at least a half dozen of my friends to help out with all the setup stuff. And I'd plan to exhibit, as well. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 3 months

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Mac SE/30

by donm＠cts.com

OK, one more dumb question about the SE/30. I have just Mac formatted a Toshiba 834mb drive to install in lieu of the puny 31mb unit that came with it. Is it possible to partition this drive into two or more bootable logical drives? Say, one for MacOS 7.n and another for some ?nix derivative? Perhaps another for CP/M-68K? Thanks! - don

25 years, 3 months

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Apple parts seller

by lgwalker＠look.ca

I just purchased some A2 items at extremely good prices and felt I should pass on to the list this info. I am not in any way connected to him other than as a delighted customer. I bought : >> 8 Appletalk connectors at .50 ea $4.00 >> 4 DuoDisk cards at .50 ea $2.00 >> 1 Apple DOS Manual $1.00 >> 1 Apple ProDos manual $1.00 >> 1 Apple DOS System Master disk .50 >> 1 Apple ProDos disk for 64K machines .50 >> 1 Apple ProDos User's Disk .50 >> 1 Apple System Utilities Disk .50 >> ---------------------------------------------- >> Total for goods $10.00 US ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:43:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Craig J. Larson" <larson(a)tcfreenet.org> To: Lawrence Walker <lgwalker(a)look.ca> Subject: Re: DUO Disk Controller Larry, I always ship the same day payment is received. I don't mind if you give out my email address. I've been liquidating the assets from a former Apple II user group for about 3 years now and after 400+ packages shipped, I'm not aware of anyone who was not satisfied. I'm not a dealer and am not replenishing anything that is sold. Over 2/3rds of the material is gone. Most of what is left are just common cards like disk controllers, Super Serial cards, parallel printer cards, AIIe extended 80 column cards, power supplies, programming books etc. I have a few Platinum Apple IIe machines, and a few Apple IIgs machines left. I also have a few color and green screen monitors left, but these are generally too expensive to ship. Since I used to service these machines for the general public, I have a lot of IC chips left for replacement on boards, and replacement key switches for repairing keyboards. Also component parts for repairing power supplies. I do not have a complete list of these items and haven't had time to take inventory. I work over 70 hours per week at my job. I also deal with antique radio parts, vacuum tubes, and 16mm films and supplies. Those are just a few of my hobbies. Craig in USA ------- End of forwarded message ------- Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

25 years, 3 months

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Northstar Advantage 8/16 problems

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I have a Northstar Advantage 8/16 that I am having some problems with. It is the 2-floppy version, and it does the same thing whether or not the ADV-16 CPU card is installed.... It does not recognize the keyboard. The system turns on, beeps, and displays "Load System" (all normal, according to the docs). However, when I insert a disk, and press enter, no attempt is made to access the disk. Also the "Control-C" combination does not drop you into the monitor, as the docs say it should. One quick diagnostic test said to press the "All CAPS" key repeatedly. The light on the key should go off, then on, then off, etc. It does NOT. It stays lit no matter how many times I press the key. Same for all other lit keys ("Crsr Lock", etc.). I took the case apart, and reseated the cables, made sure all the chips were correctly socketed, looked for burns, hot spots, etc. All seemed fine... Unfortunately, most of the paths in the tech manual end in "replace the main board". I cannot for obvious reasons do this, so my question: Has anyone had an Advantage 8/16 with a seemingly unresponsive keyboard, and how did you fix it? Thanks! Rich B.

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And someone has one... Re: Virus Alert !!!

by jpero＠sympatico.ca

> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:50:25 -0800 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> > Subject: Re: And someone has one... Re: Virus Alert !!! > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > >To drag this topic kicking and screaming back towards the list topic, as > Lots of motorola, 68k etc. Hmm, > > A well adjusted carburetor does a pretty good job, but a modern engine is > close to amazing at just how well the it works given the cost. I drive a > 4,000 lb full size Lincoln, with a 285 hp engine that gets 18 mpg around Cold engines is major emssions problem and do poorly on mpg while it's running rich to assist cold engine operation. Your car should get better MPG on highway, 20 to 24 is what you should see, recheck your driving habits and do full tune up, get emissions up to snuff and change that themostat are suggested. 18 mpg city is not bad, highway not. My brother owns 20+ yr old heavy car w/ V8 and he said he can get 24mpg highway in that thing, btw it does have carb because I grew up w/ that nanny's, now his car. Oh remembered that, my other friend with a '89 caravan LE w/ V6 3.0L 3spd auto get that in city driving and bit better on road. Another friend has '90 caravan 2.5L n/a, 3spd auto got that terrible MPG too when O2 sensor was bad and no tune up till we did it. > Also my guess is that 'average' engine hp has about doubled in the last 2 > decades, and that reduces mpg. Actually, the torque went up, HP much less for given engine types but MPG *went* down and still is in '01. The fault is in weight have risen due to more options and safety stuff that is needlessly added for *no reason*. N.american big 3 didn't bother to develop more efficient enegines with latest stuff more especially on MPG and give us vehicles with less weight. Also Big 3 makers I think quit making small and compact vehicles. And didn't address the new vehicle cost. 24,000 is still much for same thing. Which I consider this a big must to survive this gas price crunch. Toyota, honda and VW and few other did their homework 20 years ago and still doing it now. For example, VW 1.8TDI get very good MPG and compareable HP compared to Chrysler's 2.5L turbo or 3.0 V6, both has less MPG and already 14 years old, same n/a 2.4L but it's still doesn't give good mpg, my brother car w/ v8 beat it that. There's more examples but I will leave this one alone for you to consider. I know I'm bummed for comparing gas to diesel but honda, toyota and others does produce efficient gas engines as well. This is my view because I'm keeping my eye on mailing lists and on newsgroups, websites so I'll be aware when looking for first vehicle of my own when I land job. I'd prefer to have a reliable bit-crunchy vehicle with seatbelt and manual stuff in it, leave computer alone just for that engine, and manual tranny, 40+MPG and bit nimble if I have to avoid accidents. I cannot find this in most vehicles for last 8 years. You can see I'm not looking at Honda, Hyraduai, KIA, I'm looking at older VWs, older 4 cylinder Chryslers, many Toyota and Nissan. Cheers, Wizard

25 years, 3 months

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Offers invited for VT52

by celigne＠tinyworld.co.uk

I've received the following email from Joe Hoggood, whose email address is jhoggood (at) hotmail (dot) com. Joe is in SC. Please contact him directly. --- forwarded message --- I saw your VT100.net site and thought I would see if you might know of anyone interested in buying a VT52 that I have. Thanks

25 years, 3 months

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This is CLASSIC COMPUTERS.

by red＠bears.org

Would you guys mind it at all if we could please stick to discussions about classic computers? This isn't the Classic Cars list. This isn't the Classic Carbeurators list. This isn't Fuel Efficiency Monthly. This is the CLASSIC COMPUTERS list. Maybe we should become moderated. Furrfu. ok r.

25 years, 3 months

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Whitechapel Hitech 20 on offer (fwd)

by peter＠joules.org

Does anyone in the south east of England want this? -- Regards Pete ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:20:10 +0000 From: john_a_s(a)hotmail.com To: peter(a)joules.enterprise-plc.com Subject: Whitechapel Hitech 20 on offer Hi Peter, I saw your name on the 'Classic Computer Rescue List' and am e-mailing you as I have a re-built Hitech 20 I no longer need. This is a UK designed and built MIPS R2000 based machine, with 24MB RAM, ethernet, and SCSI. The machine doesn't boot, but can display the boot ROM messages on screen. I don't have the correct display, but have lashed up a lead to my SVGA monitor which allows you to see what is happenning. The unit was rehoused at sometime into a standard AT case, but otherwise seems original. Please let me know if you are interested, I am looking for offers. It is rather heavy, and I would prefer someone to collect it (so at least I can show it partly working). I am in Felixstowe, Suffolk, which is a fair way from Shrewsbury, but I thought you might be interested. Regards, John

25 years, 3 months

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Found one oddball 13w3 cable and it's for trade.

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I have many of them in use. They are great for connecting IBM P70 17" monitors to PC type machines. My desktop monitor used to be a 21" RS6000 monitor which required 13w3 to HD15 cable. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 3 months

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VT1200 and Vaxstation 4000 VLC Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I just came across two Vaxstation 4000 VLC's and one VT1200. Each of the Vaxstations has 24 MB of memory and a RZ23L drive. I bought one for $10. The Vaxstation uses a 3w3 monitor, is the cable rare? Can I use a VT420 instead? It also has a big scsi connector on the back. I probable need to revisit the VAX/VMS FAQ. Anyone want the other one if I can get it? Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 3 months

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VT1200 and Vaxstation 4000 VLC Kansas City

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

FYI, in case someone gets confused, the 4000/60 has a very different case than the 4000/VLC... the 4000/VLC and VT1200 use the same case, and it is only about an inch and a half or so tall, it doesn't have a spot for removable media, only one internal HDD. The removable media bay is present in the 4000/60 case, however. Again, not trying to pick nits, just wanting to provide clarification. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 3 months

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Tango Schematic capture, PCB layout and autorouting programs

by shreljac＠hi.hinet.hr

Hi! I have just searchinh for Tango Route and I found your post. As I see you have Tango Route which I need. I have Tango PCB and Tango SCH but not Route... If you still want Tango SCH I can send you...and please if you can send me Tango Route Tnx.

25 years, 3 months

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VT1200 and Vaxstation 4000 VLC Kansas City

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/20/01 11:04:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu writes: > > Anyone want the other one if I can get it? > > Mike > mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu > YES! -Linc Fessenden.

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IBM 3380 disk drives / info

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

one of my friends convinced the movers that he had two washing machines and they moved two 3380 drives from Missouri to Beaverton when he went to work for Tektronix. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 3 months

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IBM Bookserver link

by russ＠rbcs.8m.com

Someone may find this useful, a page to most of IBM's bookserver "shelves" online. http://www.s390.ibm.com/bookmgr-cgi/bookmgr.cmd/Shelves

25 years, 3 months

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link to elecplus site

by halarewich＠look.ca

hello here is a line to the electronics plus website inventory page http://www.elecplus.com/inventory.html just thought you would like to know thanx Chris -- # Netscape POP3 State File # This is a generated file! Do not edit.

25 years, 3 months

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NeXT '040 Cubes

by MTPro＠aol.com

Hi there, I have two cubes, both original 1988 boxes. One is a 25MHz '040 with a hard drive and an optical drive. The other is a 33MHz '040 (Turbo?) with just a hard drive. Both power on fine, do their system test and then say loading from network. The picture looks like a coaxial "T" connector with a cable that has "data" rolling through it. They will not do anything else. I've been going crazy looking on the internet for days, but have not found a way to bypass this. I know you can "boot" into single user mode and then reset passwords, but how? Anybody lend me some suggestions? Keyboard shortcuts, etc. Also, I have an external 4gb hard drive that I have tried to connect to a working NeXT slab that I have, but it always has a SCSI error - no matter the SCSI ID or with or without terminator. Shouldn't I be able to use this with a NeXT and build a disk? Then couldn't I boot from the external if needed and build the internals? Thanks for any help, they sure are cool systems, x-N! ASA. Best, David

25 years, 3 months

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DEC 8MB parity 80 pin SIMMs... what are these from?

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

> I was at the Dayton Computer show last weekend (at the Hara Arena, same place > as the Dayton Hamvention) and picked up a handful of, I thought, 8MB parity > SIMMs. They are, but they happen to be 80-pin, not 72-pin. I've got a feeling my Tektronix XD88 uses 80-pin stuff (they're bigger than 72-pin anyway). Will check this evening if I get a chance. cheers Jules

25 years, 3 months

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